8/8/2024

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Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Red Wire Space second quarter 2024 earnings call. At this time, our participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during a conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Jeff Zunig, Senior Vice President, Financial Planning and Analysis and Investor Relations. Please proceed.

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Jeff Zunig

Thank you, LaTanya. And good morning, everyone. Welcome to Redwire's second quarter 2024 earnings call. We hope that you have seen our earnings release, which we issued yesterday afternoon. It has also been posted in the investor relations section of our website at redwirespace.com. Let me remind everyone that during the call, Redwire management may make forward-looking statements that reflect our beliefs, expectations, intentions, or predictions of the future. Our forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that are described in more detail on slide two. Additionally, to the extent we discuss non-GAAP measures during the call, please see slide three, our earnings release, or the investor presentation on our website for the calculation of these measures and their GAAP reconciliations. I am Jeff Zunig, Redwire Senior Vice President of Financial Planning Analysis and Investor Relations. Joining me on today's call are Peter Conito, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Jonathan Bayless, Chief Financial Officer. With that, I would like to turn the call over to Pete. Pete?

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Pete

Thank you, Jeff. During today's call, I will take you through a discussion of our key accomplishments in the second quarter of 2024. Jonathan will then present the financial highlights for the same period, after which we will open the floor for Q&A. Please turn to slide six. The second quarter of this year was another excellent quarter for Redwire, during which we continued our positive momentum from the first quarter. We once again delivered year-over-year revenue growth and positive adjusted EBITDA while delivering a strong performance in bids submitted and contracts awarded. During the second quarter, we achieved $78.1 million in revenue, a 30% improvement over Q2 2023. It was another strong quarter for revenue. We had positive adjusted EBITDA of $1.6 million. We improved ending liquidity of $55.8 million as of June 30, 2024. We had $114.4 million in contracts awarded during the quarter with a last 12 months or LTM book to bill of 1.28 times. We had a net loss of $18.1 million for the quarter, which includes a $9 million negative impact due to an increase in the private warrant fair value. And finally, we had positive LTM net cash provided by operations of $5.7 million as of the second quarter of 2024. It's important to note that we were able to achieve these strong financial results while simultaneously investing in new technologies, expanding production capacity, and maturing corporate infrastructure throughout the first half of the year. We continue to balance near-term results with long-term growth. Please turn to slide seven. Each quarter, we outlined Redwire's growth strategy as a framework for our performance. Our 2024 plan is centered around four key principles. Protecting the core, which means continuing to deliver on our strong foundation of existing products with proven reliability and demonstrated flight heritage. It is about continuing the growth momentum of our successes in 2023. Scaling production, which means winning and delivering on increasingly larger orders to meet growing demand. Moving up the value chain. This means leveraging our proven capabilities in developing and deploying space subsystems and components in the next generation spacecraft and integrated mission payloads. And finally, venture optionality, which means continuing to pursue breakthrough developments on advanced technologies that could create new markets with game-changing potential. Over the next few slides, I'll discuss examples of successes in each of these key growth areas from the second quarter of 2024, including an in-depth look at our moving up the value chain growth area. Please turn to slide eight. Starting with our Protecting the Core growth area, during the second quarter, Redwire is proud to have supplied fine and coarse sun sensors for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's GOES-U satellite, which launched on June 25th and is intended to provide sophisticated weather and solar activity monitoring. This is the fourth satellite in the GOES-R family for which Redwire has supplied these critical guidance navigation and control components. Some sensors come from our avionics and sensors core offering, which includes spacecraft subsystems and components that are used for navigation, control, and imagery collection. Also during the second quarter, Redwire was awarded a contract by the European Space Agency to develop a robotic arm prototype for ESA's Argonaut lunar lander called MANAS. The MANIS system will be developed at Redwire's Luxembourg facility and will enable crucial logistics operations on the lunar surface, such as offloading, precise pointing and retrieval of objects, and positioning of the lander. Robotic arms are part of our Structures and Mechanisms Core offering, which includes a variety of space infrastructure that provides critical mechanical functionality for our on-orbit operations from launch release mechanisms and deployable booms to berthing and docking systems. Please turn to slide nine. Looking at our scaling production growth principle, this quarter we announced another order for our rollout solar array, or ROSA wings, for Thales Alenius Space space-inspired satellites, the company's newest product line of geo-telecommunication satellites. Our participation on the project was initiated last year and additional orders underscored that this is a growing area of the business with recurring revenue potential. Rollout solar arrays fall within our power generation core offering, which includes solar arrays and power distribution systems that generate the necessary power for space systems to operate regardless of size or location. Throughout the second quarter of 2024, Redwire continued to execute on antenna production. Redwire has delivered over 50 flight antennas and has more than 180 additional antennas in development for multiple government missions. Antennas are part of our radio frequency systems core offering, which includes the systems and payloads that enable space-to-space and space-to-Earth communications. Please turn to slide 10. Turning to our venture optionality growth principle, in the second quarter we continued our amazing breakthroughs in microgravity, starting with the successful bioprinting of live human heart tissue using our 3D biofabrication facility, or BFF, on the International Space Station. 3D printed live human heart tissue could eventually be used to create heart patches as a treatment for damaged heart tissue and opens the door to more effective personalized medicine in the future. On the next BFF mission, Redwire plans to 3D print human blood vessels in space. Also in the second quarter, our Pillbox 3 experiment that examined various crystal molecules designed for pharmaceutical use in partnership with Butler University successfully returned from the International Space Station for analysis on Earth. In addition, we have now launched four additional drug manufacturing investigations in our pillbox system. These new investigations flew to the International Space Station on board the NG-21 commercial resupply mission on August 4th. Finally, we are also excited to announce Accessilibro Pharma, a company focused on developing new small molecule drugs to treat bone disease as one of our commercial partners for an upcoming pillbox mission expected to launch later this year. Please turn to slide 11. Next, on the following few slides, I would like to provide a more in-depth look into our third principle, moving up the value chain, by focusing on Redwire's leadership in developing and providing vLEO capabilities to enhance defense and intelligence operations. In Q2, we achieved a major milestone in our VLEO SaberSat strategy with the award of a prime flight contract from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, on the Otter program. As the prime mission integrator for DARPA's Otter program, Redwire is responsible for the development of a revolutionary air-breathing satellite that will demonstrate the use of novel electric propulsion systems in VLEO. This is a major validation from the market. Very Low Earth Orbit, or VLEO, bridges the gap between air and space and provides opportunities for better performance in Earth observation and communications. Redwire has two platforms to bring this untapped orbit from concept to full-scale operations, Sabersat in the United States and Phantom in Europe. These platforms are both designed to overcome the challenges of operating in VLEO, such as atmospheric drag, while providing strategic advantages, including the following. Resiliency. As satellites in VLEO operate in an unimpaired environment above airborne anti-access and area denial defenses and below the threats in LEO, spacecraft in VLEO complement unmanned aerial systems and LEO satellites by providing an additional operating environment that gives greater resiliency to overhead defense and intelligence operations. Proximity. By operating at a lower altitude, VLEO spacecraft are twice as close to the action on the ground and therefore better able to provide the potential for higher fidelity resolution for Earth observation and strong signals for communications while better optimizing performance and cost. Mobility. The increased drag in VLEO enables spacecraft to rapidly maneuver within their orbit to provide a more dynamic operational environment that can rapidly move that satellite into a variety of positions to optimize mission requirements. And sustainability. By operating closer to Earth's atmosphere, VLEO operations significantly reduce the orbital debris issue. When a VLEO spacecraft ceases to operate, atmospheric drag will rapidly deorbit the spacecraft and the material will burn up in Earth's lower atmosphere. VLEO is a self-cleaning orbit and therefore considerably more sustainable over time. We have received very positive market reception, including the award of the Prime Flight Program from DARPA, and this has further validated our movement up the value chain through our VLEO offerings. This prime contract for Sabersat provides Redwire with a funded program and critical customer to advance our design to flight in this new and exciting domain. Turning to slide 12. With two platforms to bring this untapped orbit from concept to full-scale operations, both in the United States and abroad, Redwire's operations in VLEO are a testament to the power of our heritage plus innovation strategy. Showcasing our heritage, our first study contract for the European Space Agency's SCIMSAT program was announced in June 2022. The SKIMSAT program is a VLEO satellite mission that aims at reducing the cost of Earth observation and telecommunications while increasing performance by operating at substantially lower altitudes. With this award, we have been working to mature our spacecraft design. And in May of 2024, we unveiled our Phantom platform for the first time. Phantom is being developed for SKIMSAT out of our Belgian office. And as we have said before, the potential for this transformative program is extraordinary. We announced our Sabersat platform in March of 2024 and announced our first VLEO study award in May. Later during the second quarter, we then announced that Redwire was selected for the Otter program. As the prime contractor, Redwire will be responsible for building the Sabersat bus, advancing the critical technologies necessary for the mission, and integrating, coordinating, and leading the team for the project. As Redwire moves up the value chain, we are very excited that Sabersat and Phantom expand Redwire's offering of full satellite system development and operations that include the Redwire International Prova satellite. With now three spacecraft platforms, we are well positioned for future growth. Please turn to slide 13. Now, turning to our contract awards and backlog. Our contract awards during the second quarter of 2024 were $114.4 million. It was an excellent quarter for bookings at Redwire. This is a 226% sequential increase in bookings compared to last quarter. Our last 12 months book-to-bill ratio was 1.28 times for the second quarter of 2024. As we continuously reinforce, we often see lumpy contract awards growth from quarter to quarter, but we are continuing to maintain a positive growth rate on an annual basis. As you can see on the lower right-hand side of this slide, our contracted backlog has increased 29.9% year-over-year to a total of $354.3 million. The growth in contracted backlog is one of many factors that gives us confidence in our future growth. Finally, we continue to have a healthy pipeline with an estimated $5.7 billion of identified opportunities, including approximately $1.9 billion in proposals submitted year to date as of June 30th, 2024. As you can see on the upper right-hand side of this slide, this represents a significant increase of 288.5% over the corresponding year-to-date period ended in June 30, 2023. This growth is a result of our efforts to increase the average size of the individual opportunities we are pursuing. For example, We are now bidding on individual programs in the $100 million plus award value on a more regular cadence. Although there is no guarantee we will win these opportunities, we now have a pipeline of bids that can result in a substantial increase in backlog if we land some of these larger opportunities. Please turn to slide 14. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Jonathan Bailiff, Redwire's Chief Financial Officer. Jonathan?

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Jonathan Bailiff

Thank you, Pete. Before I turn to the financial results, I'd like to highlight this photo on the slide, which is of the groundbreaking ceremony for Redwire's 30,000 square foot microgravity payload development and space operations facility. This facility, located within the Nova Park Innovation and Technology Campus in Floyd County, Indiana, is an investment in state-of-the-art locations and supports our cutting-edge space biotechnology programs that Pete spoke about last quarter, making it possible for the biopharma industry to achieve game-changing outcomes in space. Turn to slide 15. Our second quarter and its first half of 2024 results demonstrated the positive momentum with which we entered this year. Quarterly revenue was a record for a second quarter of $78.1 million. We also achieved positive adjusted EBITDA on the quarter of $1.6 million. We will discuss the drivers of this quarter's adjusted EBITDA on subsequent slides, but note that it was negatively affected by EAC adjustments of $3.1 million. This also impacted our Q2 net loss, which was also impacted by other one-off items such as a $9.0 million or 14 cents per share basis loss associated with change in fair value of warrants on a non-cast basis. On this page, as you can see in the lower left-hand box, we experienced significant growth in backlog and bids, submitting $1 billion more in the second quarter year-over-year for a total of $1.3 billion of submitted bids in the second quarter of 2024. Finally, although we had a use of cash from operations of $9.5 million during the second quarter of 2024, and as we said on previous calls, our quarterly cash results can be lumpy, so when you look at the last 12 months or on an LTN basis, we achieved an increase of $33 million in cash from operations on a year-over-year basis. As a result, Second quarter LTM cash from operations was a positive $5.7 million. And this allowed for the increased level of investment to fund growth as we're going to talk about in 2024. These second quarter results are attributable to the capability and commitment of our global team members and our clients' confidence in Redwire as we satisfy their growing demand for space infrastructure. Please turn to slide 16. Specifically for quarterly revenue, as you can see from the chart on the right, this quarter's revenue of $78.1 million is a 30% increase on a year-over-year basis and represents both a record second quarter revenue for Redwire as well as the second highest revenue quarter in the company's history. On a year-to-date basis, 2024 was $165.9 million as of June 30th, 2024, and this represents a 41.0 increase over the first half of 2023. Finally, during the quarter and similar to past years, the revenue and backlog has a solid backing, with more than 91% of our revenue derived from funding government programs or from global marquee customers who are delivering in the areas of national security, satellite proliferation, and the exploration of space, to just name a few. Please turn to slide 17. On a quarterly basis, Redwire achieved positive adjusted EBITDA of $1.6 million in Q2 2024. And on the last 12 months basis, or LTM basis, Redware achieved a 94.6% increase in LTM adjusted EBITDA from $6.5 million in Q2 2023 to $12.6 million in Q2 2024. Adjusted EBITDA was previously impacted by results in gross profit and gross margin. Gross profit was $13 million in the second quarter of 2024, with quarterly gross margins at 16.6%. These results were primarily impacted by $3.1 million in EAC adjustments during the second quarter. These adjustments are largely resulted from unplanned design and tech cycles required to meet customer requirements on many contracts. Offsetting these gross margin declines, our quarterly adjusted EBITDA performance was supported by excellent cost control and the continued operating leverage driven by scale as Breadwire's SG&A expenses were 23.2% of revenue, a meaningful drop from 29.4% in last year 2023 second quarter. We continue to drive tens of millions of dollars in revenue increases with much lower growth in SG&A on a year-over-year basis. And that's the benefit of operating leverage and scale kicking in. Please turn to slide 18. Throughout the second quarter, we continued to make large investments to support the revenue growth we spoke about and create industry-leading innovation and global business scale. During the year-to-date period through June 30th, 2024, we made $4.1 million in capital expenditures, plus $2.8 million in investments in internal research and development and $1.8 million in a variety of other corporate investments that mostly flow through the SG&A line. We continue to demonstrate our ability to financially perform now while also making investments for future growth, risk reduction, and profitability, all while maintaining high levels of liquidity. Please turn to slide 19. Similar to last quarter, and on the left-hand chart, we show operating and free cash flow. As a reminder, free cash flow provides a metric based on our U.S. GAAP cash from operations minus capital expenditures. For the second quarter of 2024, net cash used in operating activities was a use of $9.5 million, and free cash flow was also a use of $11.2 million. However, on a last 12-month basis, we have achieved significant improvement from net cash used in operating activities of $27.3 million on an LTM basis to a cash provided by operating activities this quarter of $5.7 million on an LTM basis. As you can see on the right-hand chart, this yields available cash and cash equivalents of $30.8 million as of June 30, 2024, with $55.8 million in total available liquidity, a 54.1% increase over June 30, 2023. Please turn to slide 20 for a brief discussion on the outlook for the remainder of 2024. We delivered another quarter of strong performance, and as a result, for 2024, we reaffirm full-year revenue at $300 million, which represents a 23% year-over-year growth rate. On a year-to-date basis, we have achieved 55% of our $300 million annual revenue guidance forecast. Finally, Through our excellence in execution initiatives, we continue to focus on improving our program management and reduce the EAC volatility, while also creating more operating leverage and cost efficiency to continue on our path to profitability. I will now turn the presentation back over to Pete to provide brief final remarks. Pete?

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Pete

Thanks, Jonathan. Please turn to slide 21. With that, I want to thank all of Redwire's team for their contributions to this quarter's results. We will now open the floor for questions.

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Operator

Thank you. We will now conduct a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, It may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Once again, that's star one to ask a question at this time. One moment while we post our first question. Our first question comes from Griffin Boss with B. Riley. Please proceed.

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Jonathan

Hi. Good morning, Pete. Jonathan, thanks for taking my questions. So first, for me, just want to start off where you guys left off on the reaffirmed guidance. With the big 2Q beat on the top line, the guide is implying a much softer second half versus first half. I know, obviously, results get lumpy in the first quarter at outsized benefit from long lead items, but Just given the strong bookings, I guess I'm surprised to see a muted outlook for the back half of the year. Can you just elaborate on your perspective there? And then perhaps with that outlook in mind, how you view margin expectations in the back half of the year relative to the first half?

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Pete

Yeah. Hey, Griffin. Thanks for your question. So I wouldn't call it muted. I mean, we've set a plan for the year at $300 million. And in the first quarter, we talked about how We had some lumpiness associated with material buys on the Dallas-Rosa contract, so that added some revenue to the first quarter that won't be regular run time associated with the remainder of the year. But, you know, we like where we are for the year, and we're executing against our plan as a result. So with that, we're constantly doing what I call strategic balance in the company. When you think about an emerging market like space, our team is constantly, and what I think is doing effectively, a really good job of strategic balance, finding that Goldilocks position between revenue growth, profitability, and investing for the future while maintaining what I think is a prudent level of liquidity. So, you know, we have our plan for $300 million a year, and we're on beacon to do that, while at the same time we've got to make sure that we're balancing that growth trajectory with our ability to deliver on our programs as well as continue our investments as well.

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Jonathan Bailiff

Griffin, it is 23% growth. It's 23% growth, Griffin, year over year, so, you know. But keep going, Griffin.

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Jonathan

Good question. I just meant relative to the first half, but I understand what you're saying, and I appreciate the color. And then, Jonathan, obviously, it's going to come as no surprise. I'm going to dig into the EAC adjustments again. You mentioned it a little bit, but can you just give a little bit more color on the mix there in the second quarter and where those adjustments are primarily coming from, whether it was primarily one program or several? That would be helpful.

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Jonathan Bailiff

Yeah, this quarter was, you know, these small adjustments spread over a larger number of contracts. There's not one, you know, contract. And, again, I'll let Pete talk a little bit more about it. But, you know, when we look at the balance that Pete's talking about in doing a number of things, you know, we're continuing to deliver for clients. And we're doing, you know, really what I consider is, you know, Yeoman's work in being able to put some of these large contracts in place and And on a percentage basis, you'd have to look at it from last year to this year. We're still looking at, on a percentage basis, the EACs being smaller on a percentage basis of revenue this year than it was on an LTM basis last year. So we're continuing to work on it. We don't believe it has a big impact on cash flow and other things like that. We're continuing to move forward on improving our profitability and scaling. That's why you see the SG&A continuing to be a focus area for us. But again, it wasn't any one contract.

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Pete

Yeah, and again, I'll go back to this idea of strategic balance, right? So we had 30% year-over-year revenue growth. You've got to execute on that and expand accordingly. So we're comfortable with where it is as a percentage of total revenue. But in a highly technical, complex, some might say hard industry-like space, you're going to run into small bumps along the way when you're growing at a 30% year over year, so we've got to balance out that revenue growth with our operational execution, and that's exactly the kind of levers Jonathan, myself, and the team are working on every day.

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Jonathan

Sure, got it. Thanks for that. And then last one for me, and I'll jump back in the queue maybe more broadly. Obviously, the U.S. presidential election has been a particular topic of interest in conversations that we've been having, I think generally speaking, it's probably safe to say there's bipartisan support for space funding, but we'd love to hear directly your thoughts on how you're handicapping the implications of a Republican or Democrat administration for Redwire and maybe the industry in general.

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Pete

Yeah, no, it's an interesting question. We're not really handicapping it. Like you said, we believe space is a bipartisan imperative. Our focus is – staying in the swim lanes that are must-dos, like national security, I think we've talked about on previous calls, but for those who are tracking space as an emerging warfighter domain, these are things, regardless of administration, that the country's going to have to invest in. I'd also remind everybody that roughly a third or 29% or in that order, it fluctuates quarter by quarter, but a fair amount of our revenue comes from overseas. So our diversification, as we've talked about numerous times, is one of Redwire's biggest strengths in terms of resiliency, regardless of who's ultimately sitting in the Oval Office.

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Jonathan

Great. Excellent. Yeah, that's Perfect. I'll hop back in the queue. Thanks for taking my questions. Appreciate it.

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Operator

The next question comes from Greg Conrad with Jefferies. Please proceed.

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Greg Conrad

Good morning. Hey, Greg. Maybe just to start with the submitted bids. I mean, you called out more $100 million-plus programs within that $1.9 billion number. I mean, any more color in areas where you're seeing this opportunity and just thinking about

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Pete

Noticeable trends between maybe commercial versus more government work as you submit you step up your submits Yeah, I mean in terms of where it's coming from it's a mix so there's Scalable opportunities across all of the different Targeted market segments So so yeah, it's a mix of those different things I think the two predominant flavors of these directly tied to two of our core growth principles for 2024, scaling production and moving up the value chain, right? So as part of our scaling production, we're going after larger quantities, larger quantity orders of our existing projects, right? So they're, you know, as these things start to take root in the marketplace, as the constellations that I know you're aware of continue to scale. We mentioned, for instance, the antenna work we do for the government. As those scale, our order quantities grow, and that results in bigger bid submissions. And then, of course, moving up the value chain, when you start doing full spacecraft prime contracts and bidding programs of that ilk, they tend to be larger in size because you're getting the full scope of the program as opposed to just a single subsystem.

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Greg Conrad

And then maybe just touching on a third of the four items, the venture and optionality portfolio, it seems like there continues to be a step up of kind of positive data points around that portfolio. How do you think about the timing of that business being, you know, really meaningful and kind of the path to increased monetization just given, you know, some of these early items that you're seeing in the market?

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Pete

Well, so we're optimistic. I mean, we're trailblazing here. So there isn't a lot of context to make, you know, and a lot of data to make predictions on timing. So we don't. as a result, but as hopefully we've been able to articulate quarter by quarter, there's a lot of momentum in this area, and it's moving from what could be characterized as one-off experiments more towards an emerging regular cadence of production-like activity, particularly in pillbox. As the data is analyzed and as momentum builds, we continue to see, have an optimistic outlook for what we're doing. And we're really encouraged by both repeat orders from existing partners to do more investigations as well as an increase in the diversity and the number of different partners that are interested in working with us. So again, difficult to predict due to the first of a kind trailblazing nature of the technology. And that's why we refer to it as venture optionality. But qualitatively, we have a lot of really encouraging results.

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Greg Conrad

I'll leave it at two. Thank you.

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Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Kitzlinger with Alliance Global. Please proceed.

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Brian Kitzlinger

Great. Thanks so much. You submitted an impressive. How are you? Good. You submitted an impressive $1.3 billion in proposals in the second quarter. Can you talk about capacity? I assume you're going to continue to submit bids at an accelerated pace. And then maybe talk about the average win rate over the last two years and whether that's different between large proposals versus smaller proposals.

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Pete

So on the last part first, we don't report our win rates and we don't, as a result, break it down. Of course, being part of an emerging and highly dynamic market, I'm not sure past historic data would be relevant over time during this early period of our growth. I think the key is in the results that you see in terms of 29.9% growth in contracted backlog year over year. As we continue to move up the value chain and increase production, it's less a function anyways of the percentage of individual wins that you have. It's the right wins that matter. bidding the right way, that is important to us, and that's what we've been focused on. And like we highlighted, from a bid capacity perspective, we're increasing the average size of our individual bids. So the number of bids varies from quarter to quarter, but that what's in the pipeline goes up, and we see that as encouraging towards future potential bookings.

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Brian Kitzlinger

Sorry, I meant from capacity, from your ability to deliver. I know you have a new facility, but if you keep increasing bids and winning, how do you think about capacity to deliver? I meant, sorry.

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Pete

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's a fair question. So again, going back to that idea of strategic balance, you know, when we go into a bid, we do a really detailed level of planning into the what happens if we win here to make sure that we have the capacity at the ready. should we be awarded the program. So, we feel pretty comfortable by the time we get to the actual bid submission portion that if we're selected, we will have the capacity or the plan to execute on attaining the capacity associated with the timeline that we submit as part of our bid. So, for instance, some really large awards may start with a design period initially that would then allow for simultaneously ramping up the physical production site as well. So, it's a detailed process that we do when we go to submit a bid, and one of the gates that we have to pass for our internal review is, do we ultimately have of the ability to execute, and that's part of this strategic balance that we work on every day.

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Jonathan Bailiff

But, I mean, Brian, I do want to get to the financial element of the question you're talking about. You know, when we submit these bids, we take into account most of, if not, you know, a vast majority of the contract costs are obviously included in these bids. We've talked about in the past our CapEx is quite low compared to our our revenue, and it stayed fairly low because our clients pay for a lot of these costs to be able to get to the capacity to deliver. And we've seen this and delivered on that credibility over the past number of years. And as we've said, to achieve the $300 million of revenue guidance, we do not believe we need to issue any securities or anything like that. That is, again, part of the strategic bidding that we do to make sure that we're covering our costs.

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Brian Kitzlinger

Great. And then my other question related to the EACs, it's been a bit high for the last three quarters. And Jonathan, you mentioned it's a variety of contracts. So I'm curious how this impacts your pricing strategy going forward. Can you price fixed contracts a little higher to ensure you capture the appropriate margin?

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Pete

Yeah, so we look at every contract. bid in the context of what our financial and strategic goals are, right? So there are some things that we bid aggressively because it can have a strategic implication that's really important to us. As example, maybe breaking into a new product line or a new customer. And we balance that out with some of our more mature products where we're more in that increasing gross, you know, where the focus is more on increasing gross margins. And what we like about where we're positioned is it's a portfolio effect, right? So measuring it on a quarter by quarter basis can, if you look at it as just a snapshot or moment in time, you see this strategic balance that I'm talking about moving around, and that's why we talk about, you know, for instance, cash from operations over an LTM perspective, because, you know, as you move, as you really grow revenue rapidly, that's going to introduce some level of challenges in the operational execution. As you focus on that operational execution, then you've got to balance that with your strategic growth. So I think what you're seeing is basically a snapshot in time, and some of these are just a reflection of how we're bidding to balance financial performance as well as strategic positioning in the market.

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Operator

Okay. Thank you.

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Jonathan Bailiff

Thanks, Brian.

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Operator

The next question comes from Andres Shepherd with Cancer Fitzgerald. Please proceed.

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Andres Shepherd

Hi. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking our questions, and congratulations on the quarter. Thanks, Andres. You know, a lot of our key questions have been asked, but maybe to take a step back, you know, ROSA continues to make great progress. Some feedback that we are getting is that the solar energy industry kind of continues to experience some supply chain disruptions. So just wondering if you could share maybe what you're seeing there, maybe the latest pricing for your solar business. Thank you.

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Pete

So we're executing. You know, supply chain is always something that has to be managed. I don't think it's particular or we're not experiencing it being specific to solar arrays. Of course, our solar arrays aren't, you know, run-of-the-mill, you know, put on top of your house type solar arrays. So we have a strategic supply chain. And those supply chain partners, from my perception of where I'm sitting, are very pleased with the growth of ROSA and the growth that Redwire is experiencing. And so when we look at these bids, We're in there in the mix with critical suppliers, ensuring that they have the capacity to grow along with us, and the results are showing up in the numbers.

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Jonathan Bailiff

Yeah, I mean, when you start seeing expansion of an existing product or project, you're seeing that there's real demand for the amount of energy that's needed for specific satellites or spacecraft. We view that as an opportunity because of our strong relationships, our unique technologies. And so when you start seeing that expansion, you should assume that we obviously have those relationships in our supply chain to be able to, again, get to that capacity and then beyond.

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Andres Shepherd

Got it. Thanks, guys. That's super helpful. Maybe just switching gears to venture optionality, can you just remind us the timeline for the next Pillbox missions throughout this year? How big of an emphasis are you placing on this over the long term? It seems it's becoming more and more as one of your maybe core focus. So just curious on the timeline and your thoughts there. Thank you.

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Pete

Yeah, it's a good question. So we just launched another four. So that's going to keep us busy for a while. And, of course, there's been a lot of headlines around trips to the ISS. So, yeah, so I think we're on target to continue the same operational tempo that we've been able to exhibit so far this year. And I agree with you that – it's becoming a bigger focus as we achieve more and more successes. So, you know, I'd like to emphasize this isn't venture domain, even though we call it venture optionality, we're not losing millions and millions of dollars in putting these up. These are customers and we get revenue associated with these and they have their own profitability targets. But the real potential is going to come from our ability to hit on a crystal and working with a partner to ultimately license that IP. And it's still early days. So I think hopefully what you in the market are seeing is that we have – a really great momentum this year in turning this idea of pharmaceutical production of crystals on orbit, and it's not just for pharmaceuticals, it's for other applications as well, is really at that nexus point from turning to just being in space experimentation to the ability to have a regular cadence, almost a production level cadence, to build that out. And Redwire is is at the lead in terms of the number of these things that we're putting up on a regular, what I would say, business level tempo. And that's what we're really excited about. But in terms of being able to start pointing at revenue contribution and out years, we're just not at that level yet in the product lifecycle to start making those predictions.

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Jonathan Bailiff

I mean, the prediction we gave you is that there would be 16 additional pillbox missions in 2024. We obviously now have disclosed the four that just went up. So we're continuing that accelerated cadence, because again, this time last year, we started talking about this development, it's not experimentation, it's development investigations of the drugs themselves. The pillbox is working, right? We're getting our clients, or really our partners, great results. But again, it's the development of these proteins, which we explained last quarter. So we're on track with those 16. And the only other thing I would say, Andres, is there's been a lot of investment the last decade. in this pillbox and other parts of the biopharma and personalized medicine, over $70 million of investment for this. So we're benefiting from that. We're others in the venture part of space dealing with you know, pharma and personalized medicine are just now starting their investment cycle. We've already got that investment in place, and now we're starting to reap the benefits. But like Pete said, we've been very conservative both in how we talk about our revenue forecast for this year, $300 million, but also how we talk to you about the venture optionality. We believe in it. Obviously, we wouldn't have invested otherwise. $70 million if we didn't. But that being said, it's going to come with these new business models in space that are, frankly, mimicking a contract development and manufacture of pharma and biopharma terrestrially. So there is a business model that's known and knowable that will apply to space with, frankly, the same clients like a Lilly or a Butler University.

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Pete

Yeah, I think what Jonathan highlights is really important. If you really want to understand this aspect of the business, you have to look at it the way the venture investors are looking at. a competitive opportunity or competitive organizations that are just getting started, right? We've been, if you look at the tempo, we're moving from experimentation into production. We're not at the major loss, you know, what typically comes in a venture life cycle of major losses around a product. That is not where we are with this aligned by any stretch of the imagination. It's generating revenue. I think we have a lot of excitement and are starting to prove out the market So, if you look at the analysis associated with how the valuations are being applied to those who are just getting into this area, and you look at that and try to value the option that is embedded in Redwire associated with this segment, considering we're further down the stream in terms of turning this into a real business, you start to see the full potential.

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Andres Shepherd

Got it. That's super helpful. I really appreciate all that color. Maybe if I could squeeze one last one really quick. Jonathan, how should we think about free cash flow for the rest of this year and maybe into next year? I realize obviously you don't guide it, but any color there that you might be able to provide us with? Thank you.

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Jonathan Bailiff

First of all, I appreciate you answering your own question because we don't give free cash flow or operating cash flow. I'll just give two Let's just say aspects to at least give you some color in this and context. One, we're very proud of the operations teams. Obviously, this is a multi-year exercise of path to profitability. So we don't ever look at just any one quarter. We have a tendency and we're kind of disclosing LTM basis to be able to generate cash from operations. We don't make any adjustments. It's cash from operations to be able to invest. And that investment includes a number of things that are in our growth strategy, such as moving up the value chain, or that's this quarter's focus, or last quarter's venture optionality. Although, again, like I said, we've already invested in that a lot. So when we talk about our LTM improvement of 33 million in cash from operations, that gives us the confidence that we can invest a bit more on a full year basis, which you see what we're doing. We have a page on those types of investments that are primarily in the technology and basically commercializing the technology. but also it's associated with creating global scale, which is why our SG&A has been coming down on an LTM basis percentage of revenue. So the two things, simply put, are we are generating operating cash flow to make higher levels of investment, and we're seeing that credibility in that we're seeing the revenue growth. So then we make those investments, they impact cash flow from operations, on a quarterly basis, maybe one quarter, but it can be lumpy. And then when you look at it on an LTM basis, the trends are a friend. And the other piece, the second piece, which is really important, is we continue to have high levels of liquidity, right? And that high-level liquidity allows us to also make sure that we're having a prudent capital structure and a prudent way to continue to invest.

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Andres Shepherd

Excellent. Thanks very much again. Congrats on the quarter. I'll pass it on. Thanks. Thank you.

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Operator

The next question comes from Suji De Silva with Roth Capital. Please proceed.

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Suji De Silva

Hi, Peter. Hi, Jonathan. Congrats on the progress here. I'll keep it to one question to keep it in considerate time. Someone asked about capacity earlier. I wanted to drill down into the VLEO capability you have and just understand how it's going to evolve from the current programmatic sort of feel where you're designing and building a spacecraft for two or three customers, I believe. Is it going to turn into a situation where it's a per spacecraft revenue model or is it If it's program-based on a continued basis, what kind of capacity do you have? How many programs can you simultaneously handle?

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Pete

Any thoughts that would be helpful? So, if I understand your question correctly, you're asking whether it will be a handful of programs or whether it's scaling? Maybe if you could just clarify a little bit. I didn't totally understand.

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Suji De Silva

Sure. Either it's more programs layering on this one, or each program has multiple spacecraft expected to be delivered.

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Pete

Oh, right.

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Suji De Silva

Yeah.

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Pete

Okay, both. I think you're going to initially see governments take the lead in this segment, and you're going to see investment in – developing this next generation spacecraft capability, and it'll predominantly be development at first, and then much like you saw the evolution that happened from smallsats to proliferated LEO constellations, as the spacecraft come online, so from our perspective, as Phantom and Sabersat move out of the development phase and become a very stable, proven spacecraft platform, you're going to see larger and larger quantity orders increase over time. Did that answer your question?

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Suji De Silva

It did, yeah. And just how many programs do you simultaneously have capacity for, do you think, right now, or if you can think of that?

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Pete

Does Redwire have capacity for?

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Suji De Silva

Yeah, sure. Yeah, so... I'm sorry, for VELO specifically, I'm sorry, VELO specifically, Peter.

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Pete

Oh, oh, oh, in terms of an estimate that says the number of VLEO opportunities in the market? That you could handle simultaneously, I guess, yes. That we could handle simultaneously? Wait, so, you know, as Jonathan articulated, and I understand, I apologize, the nice thing about when we enter into a new space like this, particularly when it's imperative for the government, and these are predominantly in government, is we're growing our capacity along with the development of associated with the government programs, right? So these tend to be multi-year development programs where we move through key milestones like preliminary design reviews and then critical design reviews and then develop out new technologies until we get to a stable baseline. So during those early stages of development, you know, we have the ability to scale our capacity along with each new program as they come in. And we bid these things with a nice cash milestone profile associated with these bids. So the bids come along with the necessary resources and time we need to scale. So I'm not going to hazard a guess at a number, but I'm not spending my nights up worrying about this idea that as the government continues to invest in more and more of these programs and as we go out and bid on more and more of these programs that we're going to run into a production bottleneck.

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Suji De Silva

Okay.

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Pete

Very helpful, Peter. Thank you.

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Operator

Thank you. At this time, I would like to turn the call back over to management for closing comments.

speaker
Pete

Great. Well, I'd like to thank everybody for their questions, some really excellent questions today. And again, I want to thank all the Redwire employees across the globe for just a tremendous effort in delivering these results. None of this happens without our employees, our partners, our customers, our teammates. So thank you to all of them, and thank you to all of you, and go Redwire.

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Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a great day.

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