Transocean Ltd (Switzerland)

Good day, everyone, and welcome to today's QQ 2025 Transocean's Earning Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, you will have the opportunity to ask questions during the question-and-answer session. You may register to ask a question at any time by pressing star 1 on your touch-shown phone. You may withdraw yourself from the queue by pressing star 2. Please note this call may be recorded. I'll be standing by should you need any assistance. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Allison Johnson, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Stephanie. Good morning, and welcome to TransOcean's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. A copy of our press release covering financial results along with supporting statements and schedules, including recommendations and disclosures regarding non-doubt financial measures, are posted on our website at dporter.com. Joining me on this morning's call are Keelan Adamson, President and Chief Executive Officer. Thad Veda, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Roddy McKenzie, Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer. During the course of this call, TransOcean Management may make certain forward-looking statements regarding various matters related to our business and companies that are not historical facts. Such statements are based upon current expectations and certain assumptions and therefore are subject to certain risks and uncertainties. Many assets could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to our SEC filings for our forward-looking statements and for more information regarding certain risks and uncertainties that could impact our future results. Also, please note that the company undertakes no duty to update or revise forward-looking statements. Following Keelan and Chad's prepared comments, we will conduct a question and answer session with our team. During this time, to give more participants an opportunity to speak, please limit yourself to one initial question and one follow-up. Thank you very much. I'll now turn the call over to Keelan.

Thanks, Alison, and welcome everyone to our second quarter of conference calls. As always, we greatly appreciate your interest in Translations. I want to open today's call by sharing a few of Translations' key priorities. We are intently focused on several interrelated objectives with outcomes that are entirely within our control, and we are addressing them with urgency and agility. First, and foundational for everything we do, is delivering best-in-class services for our customers. TransOcean is the partner of choice for operators, requiring expertise in the most technically challenging, ultra-deep-order and harsh environment regions of the world, and we are committed to providing safest, most reliable and efficient operations everywhere, all the time. Next, we will continue to manage our portfolio of high-spec rigs in a disciplined and selective manner, endeavoring to extract the greatest value possible from our unique fleet. And lastly, but also of paramount importance, we will continue to improve our overall financial flexibility. To do this, we will achieve and maintain the most efficient cost structure possible. We will reduce total debt as rapidly as we can, minimize interest expense, and ultimately simplify our balance sheet. TransOcean is differentiated from the competition by both its people and its assets, and our customers trust us to deliver in the world's most technically demanding environments. Operators select TransOcean because of the exceptional synergy created by our people and our assets, leveraging our technology and innovation to drive consistently high performance. This powerful combination is our value proposition, differentiating our product to both customers and investors. We take exceptional pride in being the preferred offshore drilling provider and being recognized for delivering the highest quality and most efficient solutions. Just last week, Beacon Offshore Energy announced it commenced production from the Shenandoah field, which was drilled by one of our two 8th generation 20,000 psi drill ships, the Deepwater Atlas. This is the second 20,000 psi reservoir to come online using Transocean's ships. We are excited to be part of this achievement and thank Beacon for placing its trust in Transocean to accomplish this important milestone. Our high specification ultra-deep water and harsh environment fleet is unmatched, attracting an industry-leading backlog of approximately $7 billion. Under all market conditions, our fleet has maintained higher average utilization and premium day rates. We believe that we have a very effective and successful commercial strategy. We are continually evaluating market dynamics from a supply and demand perspective, carefully assessing individual opportunities to ensure we are deploying each asset into the right project at the right time. You should expect us to continue to be disciplined and strategic in applying this portfolio approach to the management of our fleet to maximize EBITDA and cash flow. Regarding our efforts to improve our financial flexibility, recall that last quarter we announced a plan to sustainably reduce our cash costs by about $100 million in each of 2025 and 2026. This reduction is primarily from our fleet operating and maintenance expense, and we are on track to deliver these savings. As should be the case, we strive for continuous improvement, and accordingly, we have taken additional steps to improve the efficiency of our share-based organization and expect to reduce these costs by approximately $50 million on an annual basis beginning in 2026. Importantly, these actions will not in any way compromise safety, customer service, or the reliability of our rig. We understand the importance of financial resilience to effectively weather the inevitable cycles in this business and generate appropriate returns for our shareholders. We have a clear path to deliver significantly over the next few years, addressing our debt obligations by efficiently converting our industry-leading backlog to revenue and maximizing cash flow to equity. We remain on track to reduce debt by more than $700 million this year. We will continue to take a disciplined approach to managing our balance sheets carefully assessing how each action fits into our long-term financial strategy. Moving on to our outlook for the global market, with an active fleet mostly contracted through the middle of next year, we are actively working on opportunities for the second half of 2026. While the pace of contracting activity has been measured since the middle of last year, all projections suggest we are nearing the end of this temporary slowdown. Indeed, we are engaged in multiple conversations with customers on attractive opportunities for work well into the future and have a line of sight to a number of forthcoming vendors, which I will discuss after a brief recap of our recent pictures. In June, we issued a press release disclosing that a two-well option was exercised on the TransOcean Spitzbergens. The option, which was struck at a rate of $395,000 per day, ensures the rig has continuous work through August 2027. Next, in Brazil, the Deepwater Mykonos was awarded a 60-day contract extension. The agreement also includes multiple options, which, if exercised, would keep the rig working into next year. And finally, in the Ivory Coast, Murphy awarded the Deepwater Spiros a three-well contract. The program is expected to commence late this year and includes a one-well option that, if exercised, would keep the rig working into the second quarter next year. We continue to expect the market to tighten by late 2026 and into early 2027, at which point we expect the global active ultra-deepwater fleet will once again approach utilization exceeding 90%. This should result in upward pressure on day rates. Third-party analyst data supports our view. Wood Mackenzie's latest analysis shows deepwater and ultra-deepwater development capex rising from $64 billion in 2025 to $79 billion. in 2027, a 23% increase. And in their latest commentary, both Fernies Offshore and Westwood Global Energy Group noted that commencement dates for pent-up demand have firmed up, and for the most part, stopped sliding to the right. For the ultra-deep-water drill ship market, the primary source of incremental demand is still expected to come from Africa, the Mediterranean Sea, and Asia. If known programs materialize as currently projected, there could be an incremental four drill ships working in Africa in 2027 and an additional two in the Mediterranean. We are optimistic that commencement windows for these programs will continue to remain generally stable as many of them are progressing through the tender process. For example, of the three multi-year opportunities set to commence in Mozambique in 2027, one has been released, one is in the RFI stage, and one is pending release, which is expected by the end of September. Moving east to the Asia-Pacific region, current tenders indicate up to four incremental drill ships will be required in the next two years, including the Chevron-Gorgon prospect in Australia, which is expected to commence in the first quarter of 2027. This will be the first time in seven years a drill ship has operated in-country. Demand in India also points to one additional drill ship as ONGC, Reliance and Cairn each have programs in this timeframe. And finally, tenders for the remainder of Asia will likely require the rig town to move up from three active dealerships today to five in 2027. Activity levels in the U.S. Gulf, Latin America, and Brazil are expected to remain relatively stable. Since our first four 2025 earnings calls, bids were submitted for Petrobras' BUSIOS program, and Petrobras released the tender for its Mero project, which is a firm duration of nearly four years. expected to commence in the first half of 2027, for at least one rig. With respect to the previously mentioned Gujias tender, it is possible that four rigs could now be awarded rather than up to the three originally anticipated. Additionally, Shell is currently evaluating rigs for the Gallo-Gamata development and Equinor released an RFI for a one-year program with commencement likely in the first half of 2026. Furthermore, Just this week, BP announced their biggest discovery in 25 years of the boomerang's loss in the Santa Fe Basin, and indicated its intention to perform additional appraisal activities. The projected demand for harsh environment semi-submersibles remains strong in Norway and elsewhere internationally. As a reminder, our four rigs in Norway, the Transocean Slitsbergen, Transocean Norge, Transocean Encourage, and Transocean Enneadra, are fully committed into 2027. In the UK, on top of DT West of Shetland, Ataka is also looking for one rig for its Cambo development, a 900-day program that starts in the same timeframe. In the Orange Bay soon, meaning Namibia and South Africa, operators will soon begin the development phases of their discoveries, which will require at least one additional harsh environment semi-submersible. We expect a tighter global market to develop in the next two years. However, at this time, we do not see a compelling case for reactivation of cold stack units, hence our decision in the second quarter to remove four lower specification rigs from our fleet. We continuously assess the option value of our cold stack rigs to ensure we maintain the best and most competitive fleet to meet our customers' requirements. All else unequal, supply rationalization structurally improves industry dynamics. Including four of our own, A total of 11 rigs have been retired from the global fleet this year, and we believe it is reasonable to expect additional attrition in the near term. Industry consolidation could help facilitate further reduction in rig supply, which would contribute to a more balanced industry. With that, I will now hand it over to Fad to discuss our results and guidance. Fad?

Thanks, Julian, and good night, everyone. During today's call, I will briefly recap our second quarter results, provide guidance for the third quarter, and conclude with an update of our expectations for the full year. During the second quarter, we delivered contract-ruling revenues of $988 million, in line with our guidance, at an average daily revenue of approximately $459,000. At $399 million, our operating and maintenance expense in the second quarter was below our guidance, primarily the lower cost resulting from delays in in-service maintenance across the fleet, and lower than expected costs for out-of-service projects on trans-ocean endurance and deepwater invictus. The unit expense in the second quarter was $49 million, again in line with our expectations, and the end of the quarter was total liquidity of approximately $1.3 billion. This includes unrestricted cash and cash equivalents of $377 million, $395 million of restricted cash, the majority of which is reserved for debt service, and $510 million of liquidity from our undrawn credit facility. On top of that, the plan is for the third quarter and an update on our expectations for the full year. For the third quarter, we expect contract-growing revenues to be between $1 billion and $1.02 billion, based upon an average suite-wide revenue efficiency of 96.5% on our working rate. As you know, revenue efficiency is affected by off-time performance, weather, and other factors. The revenue estimate also includes between $60 million and $70 million of additional services and reimbursable expenses, which tend to carry low single-digit margins. The expected sequential increase in contract-serving revenues is primarily due to additional in-service days for the transition to Spitsbergen, as it completed its 15-year SPS in June, and one additional calendar day in the third quarter. These are partially offset by lower projected activity for the deepwater furor and deepwater conqueror in the jury. We expect third quarter O&M expense to be within a range of $600 million to $620 million. This slight quarter-over-quarter increase is primarily due to the timing of in-service maintenance, but classically partially offset by completion of TransOcean-Spitsburg in 15-year XPS in the second quarter. We expect G&A expense for the third quarter to follow within a range of $15 million to $55 million. Net tax interest expense for the third quarter is forecasted to be approximately $136 million, comprising interest expense and interest income of about $143 million and approximately $7 million respectively. Capital expenditures for the third quarter are expected to fall between $25 million and $30 million, and tax taxes to be paid are expected to be approximately $16 million. For the full year 2025, contract-going revenues are now expected to fall between 3.9 billion and 3.95 billion dollars, primarily reflecting potential variances in revenue efficiency. Our guidance also includes between 255 million and 265 million dollars of additional services and reimbursable expenses. We expect the full year O&M expense to be between 2.375 billion and 2.425 billion dollars. This is somewhat higher than our previous guidance, primarily due to increased reimbursables and the effects of foreign exchange. Both of these expenses are offset by increases in revenue. Jewelry costs in 2025 are expected to be between $190 million and $200 million, slightly higher than previously forecast, primarily due to certain performance-related accruals. For the full year, we are anticipating net cash interest expense between $541 comprising interest expense and interest income of about $575 million and between $30 and $35 million, respectively. This excludes any impact on the bifurcated exchange feature of our 2029 exchangeable bond. Past taxes for the full year are forecast to be between $70 million and $75 million. We now expect 2025 capital expenditures to be approximately $120 million and slightly above our prior guidance due to customer upgrades that are fully reimbursed. Of this, approximately $55 million is related to customer-required capital upgrades for upcoming projects and capital spares, and approximately $55 million of sustaining capital investment. Our liquidity at year-end is forecasted to be between $1.45 billion and $1.55 billion, consistent with my prior guidance. This reflects our revenue costs and capital expenditure expectations and includes the impact of our cost savings initiatives, our unground revolving credit facility, and our restricted cash of approximately $440 million. In late June, we announced we had entered into separate agreements with certain holders of our 4% senior exchangeable bonds due in December this year to exchange an aggregate principal amount of $157 million. Upon the completion of these transactions, 59.4 million shares were issued, Approximately $77 million in aggregate principal amounts of the bonds remains outstanding. Our liquidity forecast currently assumes convertible instruments are equitized at maturity, but as the remaining 25 EBs are out of the money, we will evaluate the various options available to us to address this sub. With respect to tax, we continue to monitor the fluid situation and have not included any potential impact on our guidance because we currently do not expect the impact of either direct or indirect tariffs to be material. This concludes my prepared remarks, and I'll turn the call back to Keelan for his final comments before we begin Q&A.

Thanks, Scott. Before opening up the line for questions, I want to reiterate that we are focused on addressing several key priorities with urgency and agility. Our team is committed to best-in-class services for our customers. We worked hard to earn their trust and the intent to keep it. Our asset portfolio is unrivaled. We will continue to take a long-term view on the market and remain disciplined as we consider future contract opportunities. As you can tell from today's comments, our outlook for late 2026 and beyond is very constructive. Lastly, we are strengthening our balance sheet and improving our capital structure. We have high confidence in our ability to add to our backlog and we intend to efficiently convert it into revenue, maximizing cash flow to reduce our debt as quickly as possible. In conclusion, we are deeply committed to delivering for our customers and shareholders. We have a strong team focused on executing a clear plan to create long-term value. Allison, please open the line for questions.

Thanks, Keelan. Stephanie, we are now ready to take questions. And as a reminder to the participants, please limit yourself to one initial question and one follow-up question.

Thank you. At this time, we'll open the floor for questions. If you'd like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone now. You may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star 2. Again, that is star 1 to ask a question. And our first question will come from Eddie Kim with Barclays.

Hey, good morning. Just wanted to ask about your expectation on the trajectory of leading edge day rates here. We've been in sort of the mid to high 400s for some time now, but have recently seen a moderation into the low 400 level. You provided a very constructive market outlook and mentioned in your propeller box it is the utilization of drill ships reaching 90% by, I think, late next year. Is it fair to say you expect leading-edge day rates to return back to that high 400th level by the next year, or just curious on your thoughts on that trajectory there?

Good morning, Eddie, and thanks for your question. As you know, we have a history of being very vicious in how we apply and select and deploy our assets into whichever project. And I think what you're seeing today is some of the white space that we all anticipated. It's no surprise to us that we were there. But some of those rates are probably a little bit lower than what we've seen in the past. And I think what we're going to see going forward is that capacity being absorbed. The future projections for activity is very, very positive. We're going to see more of the excess fleet being contracted. And as we move out into the end of this year and into 2026, we're going to see a lot more contracting activity and tendering activity for the out years of 2026 and beyond. As it pertains to rates, I'll let Reddy pertain. Let's let him express his view on where the rates we think will go right now.

Yeah, so just to follow up on Ciaran's comments there. So if you think about the utilization, as you mentioned, you know, we dip down a little bit here. We're actually expecting that the bottom of this V is practically speaking upon us. So we think that utilization is going to bottom out somewhere in the mid-80s as a percentage, is only for a relatively short period of time. I think if you look at all the projections and certainly a lot of the things that Kieran touched on, we would expect things to recover from there. One of the things that we mentioned about day rates is not just being very disciplined on what we're bidding, but it's the overall economic package on these tenders that we're evaluating. We've got a very robust process between them. our various groups, our engineering group, our operations group, and several other departments of the company. But it's very important to us that we take the holistic view, that we look at all of the expenses that are associated with these tenders. And typically, the bottom of the V is when the worst deals are made. So we apologize for not making as many long-term deals right now. We're much more focused on gap fillers at the moment. But certainly to drive long-term value for the company, we don't think now is the time to aggressively pursue long-term deals, especially those you've seen from recently announced that had a very significant amount of upgrades required. But rest assured, we'll remain disciplined in that regard and make sure that we're very aware of all the expenses associated with projects and upgrades.

Yeah, maybe just to add to that, Eddie, as you rightly point out, a utilization needs to bridge that 90% mark. maybe a little below that before we start seeing good pressure on day rates. So as we move through the year and the contracting continues, you should expect the rates to improve. Certainly from our side, we'll be looking at it strategically from a term and location and a customer perspective to drive the best value that we can get from our unique fleet.

Got it. Thank you for that comment. My follow-up is just on the Proteus and the Conquer, two of the drill ships that are coming into Gulf of Mexico and set to come off contract kind of mid to late next year. We've seen a handful of Voltaire contracts signed by our peers in the Gulf of Mexico recently. And just based on your outlook for that region to be kind of stable going forward,

Do you expect it's likely that those rigs will stay in the Gulf or could they move elsewhere? I think Roddy's jumping at that one.

Yes, we do expect them to stay in the Gulf next year. We have customers who are quite interested in that class of asset and we're pursuing a couple of different things at the moment. So we are cautiously optimistic that those rigs will be extended right where they are.

And maybe just to add to that, Eddie, we're talking about two of our highest spec units in the fleet and in the world industry. The Conqueror is right at the top, right behind our eighth generation units, and the Proteus will obviously be performing really well for our customers. So at Coons, our operation from those rigs is stellar, and I'm sure there'll be a significant demand for those two assets.

Great. Thank you very much. I'll turn it back.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Doug Becker with Capital One.

Thank you. Maybe a couple for Scott. I'm just curious on potential proceeds from some of the rigs that are sold for disposal. Just what are the assumptions embedded in the liquidity expectations that were laid out?

So, Doug, we do have some nominal amount included in the liquidity forecast. I don't think we've disclosed the total amount for the rigs, but generally speaking, when rigs go to recycling, it's not a tax-rate-even type of a transaction. So, in the ballpark, it's probably $8 to $12 million per asset, generally speaking. Certainly, if we have an opportunity to transact and to dispose of those assets into alternative functions, those numbers could be higher, but we would announced that as and when that would happen.

Got you. Don't assume anything beyond kind of break even at this point. That's correct. And in the past, you've given some color on when we might get to three and a half times net debt to EBITDA. Is there any update on those assumptions? I certainly appreciate it's been in a certain market.

Yeah, no change. The objective is to achieve that metric as soon as possible so that we have the options to consider distribution to shareholders. Generally speaking, I think we're probably still in the late 2026 timeframe for that.

Fair enough. Thank you.

Thank you. Our next question will come from Greg Lewis with BTIG.

Yeah, hi. Thank you, and good morning, and thanks for taking my question. I wanted to pivot a little bit about this. You know, kind of curious on your views. I want to go back a couple years ago when you contributed that, I believe it was the Olympia for deep sea mining. Kind of curious, you know, just given what we're reading in the news, particularly over the last couple months, you know, like, where does that, is that something that TransOcean is still involved in? And if so, maybe, could you maybe provide some updates around that?

Yeah, thanks, Greg. Yeah, we're, obviously, as you picked up, the Olympia is still in that arrangement that we have. We're seeing a lot of press, as you are, on duty minerals and potentially U.S. administration pushing pushing to advance their agenda in that regard. I'll push it over to Roddy here. He's responsible in that area and will answer your question.

Yeah, so we continue to pursue our technical solutions for doing this kind of recovery, but having that asset in the JV is very useful for us. It also gives us that optionality But you know, these things do take a little bit of time, we have to be honest about that. But we are excited to at least have that jacency available to us. And should it take off, if it does, then there is the possibility of additional vessels going in there. Typically there would be a kind of lower specification drilling rigs that are actually perfectly adequate actually quite well-specified for this kind of a venture should it take off at some point in the future.

Yeah, I think that the, as Larry indicated, obviously it's a fairly elongated process and it has to go through a lot of regulation. So, when you look at our core business and you see what the drilling activity looks like it's projected to do in the next couple of years, you know, We're very focused on the core business and maximizing our opportunities in that.

Okay, great. Thank you for that. And then just, you know, realizing, you know, your fleet's very well contracted, but, you know, I guess... there does seem to be, I mean, I guess it's not maybe a specific question to TransOcean, but maybe about the market, which is kind of indicative of maybe where we're headed. Could you maybe talk about, you know, as you look out over the next two, three quarters, you know, any things we're seeing in terms of spot activity and, you know, are there certain pockets, certain types of customers, is it exploration, just kind of if there are any kind of spots tenders, or spot, they're not even tenders, right? Spot jobs, your tracking, you know, what kind of a makeup are those?

Yes, sure, I'll take that one. Yes, so there are a number of spot jobs, and you would have seen that we picked up a couple of them, basically an extension on one of the rigs in Brazil, and also picking up the Murphy work in the Ivory Coast, and As we look at that kind of stuff, there's been several in the Gulf of Mexico that we think are just kind of add-in wells. Typically, when you have a mature basin that has a lot of prospects, a lot of developments there, there's often work that comes up to... kind of do remedial work on wells or, you know, re-completions, that kind of stuff, or stimulations to increase production. So we have seen plenty of those happen over the past couple of years. We know that there's several others in places like West Africa, which in general is actually looking really positive at the moment. We've got just kind of four tenders coming up for Nigeria, or I think one of them has been awarded already, but, you know, Mozambique's got three, and Nigeria's got two, and Ghana's got two. So there seems to be a lot of stuff there in terms of decent long-term activity, and we are seeing a number of these kind of six-month opportunities, just like the one we just signed, that pop up in places like that. So it makes a lot of sense for groups that either have those longer-term contracts available to them or are kind of rolling off hot rigs at that time frame, then it's a sort of a win-win between the contractors and the operators to pick up an operational hot rig that's doing well and contracts do well.

Thank you very much.

Thank you. We've got a final question from Noel Parks with Key Brothers.

Hi, good morning.

You know, I was just thinking about compared with where things stood heading into 2024 when we had such bullishness around prices and hitting new hurdles on the upside for daily rates. And where we are now, where you see good visibility to 2026 being hopefully the wrap-up of this slowdown. So with the benefit of hindsight, Would you say this, you know, this sort of slower couple or three quarters is more typical of a service, you know, driller business cycle? Or would you say it was more kind of like a ripple effect of sort of, you know, flow through from the dislocation of the pandemic?

I'm just curious your thoughts on that. Yeah, thanks, Noel. I...

No, I wouldn't characterize it as conventional physical activity in our business, I don't think. I mean, you have to look at the rates and what was set. And, you know, we're nowhere near those rates that we were in the pandemic period or even before then. The rates are very, very solid, albeit a little less than what we saw in the last couple of years. And that's simply because we have a little white space. There's some rigs rolling off. There's opportunities. I think there's been a lot of capital discipline based on volatility in the market space, whether it's related to tariffs or related to OPEC or related to oil production and needs. So, no, not at all. I think, as a reminder, the deep water gain, the land size, the reserves are big, the investment is large, and the lead times for the work and approval process is quite extensive. And so I think, you know, The projections are all pointing towards our operators, our customers are starting to get back into the SID process. They look at it with a long view on our process and what the world's demand for hydrocarbons looks like. And all of those are positive indicators for continued constructive growth right now. Vali, do you have anything?

Yeah, I think I'd just add to that to say... you know, from the operator's point of view, there is a significant amount of turmoil and shock in the commodity price these days. So it's a relatively simple decision to push out non-critical investment, you know, another quarter, another two quarters, to see what happens. But the one thing that that does is it kind of adds to that pent-up demand. So it kind of puts you in an interesting spot because you're you have the possibility of a number of the rigs that have point space ahead of them, particularly if they're a little lower specification, then there's a real chance there that those rigs may be retired. So I think one of the effects you're going to see is rather than the drilling contractors spending a tremendous amount of money on assets that they're trying to bridge a significant period of time, they're far rather more or less into pull those off the market, retire those rigs, which ultimately is going to help the supply and demand and the balance there when we do get a bigger time. But I would say, I think, looking at the number of tenders that we're answering, and we've had our competitors say the same thing, there really is a tremendous amount of potential out there. So, again, we reiterate that there's probably a few bargains to be had in the short term, but... For long-term work, it makes all sense in the world that the day rates will be, you know, solid going forward. We see how that would degrade materially. And to Keelan's point, you know, we may have seen a 10%, 15% drop in rates over the last couple of quarters, but already we see some more solid rates that are expected to come out in as that 27 timeframe gets super busy, expect to see the pickup beginning late 26. I think you'll see a lot of those tenders anchored and announced in late 25.

Terrific. Thanks a lot. And, you know, I'm just wondering, we've been seeing these, I don't know if you'd call them green shoots of greater exploration activity happening across the industry. And you did touch on exploration briefly a bit earlier. But I was wondering, with the BP boomerang find, anything you see as sort of unusual or intriguing about that project? And I wondered if, other than the general trend of hopefully exploration picking up, do you see any implications from that success for either industry activity, CapEx levels,

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

I mean, if you think about, just take the boomerang discovery. So it's a big discovery, obviously, you know, BP saying it's the largest in 25 years. That's a, you know, a really interesting position that you find Brazil in that. So Petrobras is, you know, is out of tender on several different things, and they've kind of picked up the pace on that, and I think that's partially in response to how many opportunities there are with the IOC. So that's a relatively new development in Brazil, but we're looking at tenders from Shell at the moment. We're also expecting BC has some additional work. Some of it has already been announced and some will probably come as a result of this latest discovery. As you know, we're I think what's interesting in that is the indications are that there could be maybe one extra rig than originally thought being used for the Bruzil tender and of course with the Equinor tender that was kind of incremental demand as well. So you're kind of seeing these green shoots looking very interesting. There is actually a point about exploration. There is actually a reasonably good increase expected in exploration wells to be drilled in 2016-27, about 25% increase each year. So it appears that as the operators are really shifting their focus back to oil and gas, you know, kind of retooling, if you will, to move into the profitable core business, we're certainly beginning to see those issues show up in these kind of prospects.

Yeah, I think exploration activity increasing is great. Success is even more important. And having quite a bit of success with EPP and some of their exploration activities as are some of our other customers. And that only does well for building capacity in the market, whether it's in Brazil or Africa or elsewhere around the world. And so, yeah, we see it as a big positive.

Great. Thanks a lot.

Thank you. This does conclude our question and answer session.

I'd like to now turn it back to Allison Johnson for any additional reports or remarks.

Thank you, Stephanie, and thank you, everyone, for your participation on today's call. We look forward to speaking with you again when we report our third quarter of 2025 results. Have a good day.

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect.