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RLX Technology Inc.
5/16/2025
Hello ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by for RLX's Technology, Inc.'s first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After management's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Today's conference call is being recorded and is expected to last for about 40 minutes. I will now turn the call over to your host, Mr. Sam Song, head of capital markets for the company. Please go ahead, Sam.
Thank you very much. Hello everyone and welcome to RLX Technology's first quarter 2025 earnings conference call. The company's financial and operational results were released through PL Newswire services earlier today and have been made available online. You can also view the earnings press release by visiting our IR website at .RelaxTab.com. Participants on today's call include our chief financial officer, Mr. Chao Lu, and myself, Sam Song, head of capital markets. Before we continue, please note that today's discussions will contain forelooking information made under the safe harbor provisions of the US private security litigation reform act of 1995. These statements typically continue words such as may, will, and are the similar expressions. Forelooking statements involve inherent risk and uncertainties. The accuracy of these statements may be impacted by a number of business risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected or anticipated, many of which factors are beyond our control. The company is available to advisors and representatives to not undertake any obligation to update this forelooking information except as required under the applicable law. Please note that our strategies, earnings press release, and this conference call can include discussions of unordered gap financial measures as well as unordered non-gap financial measures. Our press release contains a reconciliation of the unordered non-gap measures to the unordered gap measures. I will now turn the call over to Mr. Chao Lu. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Sam, and thank you everyone for joining our earnings conference call today. I will start with an update on the global regulatory landscape and the market plan, followed by our recent business development and financial overview. We were pleased to deliver impressive results in the first quarter of 2025 amid a challenging macro and regulatory environment, underscored by a 47% -over-year increase in net revenues to RMB 808 million and a non-gap profit of RMB 106 million. Since the beginning of 2025, the e-vapor industry has faced growing global scrutiny and an increasingly stringent regulatory environment. Industry-wide, e-vapor exports from China decreased year over year in the first quarter. Many due to bans on disposable e-vapor products or e-vapor products in general, excised tax and enhanced regulatory enforcement in certain countries. Specifically, the UK, the world's second largest e-vapor market, and also New Zealand, announced a ban on disposable e-vapor products effective next month, prompting local distributors to adopt a more cautious approach to importing. Additionally, Spain imposed heavier taxes on e-vapor products in April, while Mexico, Vietnam, and Kazakhstan banned e-vapor products completely. Regulatory shifts will continue to impact the whole industry and compel manufacturers to adapt throughout 2025 and beyond. These regulatory changes drive changes in user trends and the e-vapor industry. For example, the ban on disposable e-vapor products inspired the industry to develop alternatives for disposable users. Now, the big puff trend that started in Europe is spreading to Asia and the rest of the world, spurring innovation and impacting industry-wide revenue models. Big puff vapes are rechargeable, cartridge-based, or disposable e-vapor products that offer a significantly larger volume of e-vapor, e-liquid, and higher puff counts than traditional vapes. For example, our previous disposable and classic closed-system cartridge-based e-vapor products contain just 2 milliliters of e-liquid. In comparison, our most recently launched big puff products can contain up to between 14 and 20 milliliters of e-liquid. Since most manufacturing costs for e-vapors come from hardware rather than the e-liquid, the marginal cost of adding more e-liquid to big puff products is relatively low. Despite the significant increase in e-liquid volume, the per-unit selling price of big puff products is not proportionally higher than that of the traditional products. As a result, big puff products have effectively lowered the per-milliliter consumption expense of e-liquid for users. Furthermore, the larger e-liquid capacity of big puff products reduces the frequency of replacement, making them especially appealing to disposable users, many of whom initially switched to disposable to avoid the hassle of cartridge replacement. Due to their enhanced cost-effectiveness and convenience, big puff products have attracted numerous former disposable users and gained global popularity, a trend few in the industry had anticipated before. The sweeping big puff trend has driven an increase in e-liquid consumption by volume, but the lower per-milliliter average selling price has stunted revenue growth across all brands, causing a drop in industry dollar value. This has made 2025 a transitional year for the big puff shift, with most industry participants expecting to experience negative growth in industry dollar value this year. Starting next year, we anticipate that the industry dollar value growth will align more closely with the e-liquid consumption and return to a normal growth trajectory. While evolving regulations and trends can prompt industry sustainability and create opportunities for innovation, they also present significant operational challenges for brands. RLX is addressing these challenges by focusing on factors we can control. As a brand with advanced in-house product development capabilities, we are uniquely positioned to quickly create market-specific compliant products that align with user trends. For instance, we have launched several new large capacity big puff products since the second half of last year, including disposable, closed-system cartridge-based, and open-system cartridge-based devices. Our ability to stay ahead of trends and swiftly meet evolving demand is what keeps us at the forefront of the industry. Our robust inventory management system also helps safeguard against potential unexpected regulatory changes. Furthermore, by operating in multiple global markets, we mitigate the risks associated with over-reliance on any single major market. Although we are not immune to industry shifts or the broader macro environment, we remain committed to growing at a pace that outperforms an industry. We are confident that we will achieve positive dollar growth while the industry is experiencing negative growth this year. Now let's move on to our financial results for the first quarter of 2025. In the first quarter of 2025, our strategic emphasis on international markets drove a .5% -over-year increase in net revenue to RMB 808 million. However, due to seasonal factors and the fact that the fourth quarter is traditionally the peak season for overseas markets, -over-quarter growth remains subdued with net revenues staying largely consistent with the previous quarter. Turning to profitability, our gross profit margin improved to .6% in the first quarter of 2025. A 2.7 percentage point increase -over-year and 1.6 percentage point -over-quarter. This improvement was primarily due to a
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favorable revenue mix from international markets and cost optimization initiatives. We also achieved our sixth consecutive quarter of positive non-GAAP operating profit reaching RMB 106 million. Our non-GAAP operating profit margin increased by nine percentage points -over-year, managed with incremental contributions from our international business and operating leverage. In terms of cash flow, we achieved an operating cash inflow of RMB 207 million in the first quarter of 2025, up from RMB 4 million in the same quarter of the previous year. This reflects our business scale growth and working capital efficiency improvement. As we mentioned on the last call, we are currently experiencing a negative cash conversion cycle with inventory turnover days of 25 days, receivable turnover days of 13 days, and payable turnover days of 81 days in the first quarter of 2025. Our cash position remains solid as of March 31, 2025. Our total financial assets, including cash and cash equivalents, restricted cash, and various short-term and long-term deposits and investments, stood at RMB 16.2 billion compared to RMB 15.9 billion as of December 31, 2024. By conclusion, we started 2025 on a strong note with robust top-line growth supported by our international strategy, sustained profitability improvements, and a solid cash position. As we continue to expand globally, we remain confident in our ability to drive sustainable growth and create long-term value for our shareholders. This concludes our prepared remarks today. We will now open the call to questions. Operator, please go ahead.
We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. For the benefit of all participants on today's call, if you wish to ask your question to management in Chinese, please immediately repeat your question in English. And at this time, we'll pause momentarily for a roster. And the first question will come from Lydia Ling with Citi. Please go ahead.
Thanks, management team. This is Lydia from Citi. I have two follow-up questions. The first one is still interested to understand more on the progression of the overseas expansion. Could you share any latest updates, particularly any plans to enter or consolidate new markets in the foreign quarters? This is my first question. And the second one is, as the management just mentioned, there actually continues to have the involving regulatory changes in the industry. So how would you assess the potential impacts on your business and how would you plan to address these challenges? Thank you.
Thank you very much, Lydia, for your questions. Regarding the first question about our international expansion, as we have discussed in the previous quarters, we have been maintaining a prudent approach towards expanding into new markets, especially as the global macro and regulatory environments have evolved substantially over the past two to three quarters. In several countries, we have considered regulatory shifts have led us to pause or adjust our entry plan. Given these ongoing changes, we expect to make another one to two quarters to carefully evaluate and decide on any further market expansion. And regarding your second question about the regulatory landscape, it continues to evolve rapidly this year with new policies being introduced across multiple regions. In Southeast Asia, we are seeing stricter rules and clearer guidelines which help clarify what's allowed and what's isn't, leaving less room for ambiguity in the industry. In North Asia, countries are reviewing EU regulations or considering the introduction of national standards. Meanwhile, in Europe and Oceania, the focus has shifted to environmental concern with markets such as the UK and New Zealand introducing bans on disposable global products. These changes, like the UK and New Zealand upcoming disposable bans set for June, are driving innovation and encouraging the development of alternative products. Thanks to our strong in-house product development capabilities, we are well positioned to adapt our offerings to meet the unique needs of each market as regulations evolve. We believe the increasing regulatory requirements will make it harder for smaller players without robust product development and supply chain capabilities to keep up. While our long-standing commitments to compliance may have created more initial constraints for us compared with our peers with less-ringent standards, we are confident that our approach set us up for sustainable long-term success as the industry matures. Thank you for question.
The next question will come from Bojia Feng with Citrix Securities. Please go ahead.
Thank you, management. This is Omoza from Citrix Securities and I have two questions here. So my first question is what's the progress of Europe's transition from disposable e-cigarettes to big products and how do you see future product trends? And the second one is what strategies will you adopt to further capture market share and what are your competitive advantages in marketing and channel development? Thank you.
Thanks Bojia for your question. So the first question is about the product transition and the second question is about our strategies to capture incremental market share. So taking the UK, the largest market in the region as an example, we've seen distributors respond proactively since the announcement of the disposable ban even before its official enforcement. Demand for big products have been steadily increasing and we are seeing a gradual shift as users of small-pub disposables migrate to these alternatives. Some users have switched to open system or small-pub closed system cartridge products. That said, until the ban takes effect, small-pub disposables still dominate and hold a significant market share. Once the ban is fully enforced in June, we anticipate most small-pub disposable users will transition to alternatives, mostly big-pub devices. We expect this conversion to be largely completed by the end of this year. Looking ahead, we don't expect this trend toward even large capacity products to continue indefinitely as current products are already at the upper limit of what's convenient for users to carry and use. And regarding your second question about how we can gain a market share, our strategies are highly customized to each market, taking into account local user habits, regulatory environments, and channel structures. Broadly, our approach focuses on two main areas. First is product development. We will continue to optimize our product portfolio by closely tracking market trends and sales data. The insights will glean and enable us to launch new products or improve existing ones rapidly. We look at all aspects when considering product grades, including functionality, convenience, cost effectiveness, and illiquid solutions. The second is channel strategy. We've adopted a localized approach to distribution and retail. Leveraging our successful experiences in already-fitting markets, we focus on refining channel structures and carefully selecting local partners. For instance, in select Asian markets, we've introduced a franchise model for exclusive stores, converting certain wave stores into our brand-new orders to gather first-hand market insights and further enhance our retail market strategy. We are also building local teams to collect detailed retail data, which help us better serve both retailers and consumers. While these initiatives may lead to higher short-term sales expenses, we believe they will make our RTM strategy more effective in the long run by improving product channel fit and benefiting our distribution partners, which ultimately leads to greater value and profits. Thank you for your question.
The next question will come from Yuying Zhao with CICC. Please go ahead.
This is Zoe from CICC. I have two questions for the management. The first one is about the overseas market. Regarding the category conversion in Europe, how's the competitive landscape and what are our advantages compared to the global leaders like BAT or the support for brands like BAT? And as for the domestic business, are there any potential regular change and how do you foresee the future growth? Thank you.
Thanks, Zoe, for your questions. Requiring the first question about the competition in Europe, we are well prepared to capture incremental market share during these global categorical shifts. Our comprehensive product portfolio combined with a clear pipeline of large volume target base and overseas products set to launch in the coming quarters position us strongly. Our agile supply chain and robust distribution and retail channels also gives us a competitive edge during this period of transition. Compared to traditional tobacco companies, our more flexible organization allows us to bring our products to markets much faster and respond promptly to changing trends or regulatory updates. Unlike some peers who operate across multiple categories, we are fully committed to the evapor segments, giving us deeper insights and the ability to invest wisely in optimizing our distribution and retail strategies for each market. Furthermore, in contrast to brands that focus mainly on distribution, our long-term compliance-driven approach and in-house R&D capabilities ensure that our product development always aligns with both regulatory requirements and user needs. Our systematic management of payment terms and inventory also help minimize operational risk, helping us to maintain stability even as the markets and regulatory environments evolve. Regarding your second question about our Mainland China business, in Mainland China, the regulatory framework has remained stable in the last two years, following the rollout of management measures and new national standards back in 2022. We have made some commercial progress under the new rules. For instance, we launched a line of disposable products that has received positive market feedback. Meanwhile, enforcement against illegal markets has improved, helping us to achieve a modest -over-year revenue growth in Mainland China, but it is still limited due to the dominance of illegal products in the markets. Looking ahead, we believe the best way to boost growth in China's legal evaporation markets is to encourage regulatory approval of compliant, yet competitive products. For example, those with slightly higher levels of cooling agents defy national standards. If there are no significant regulatory changes, we expect the legal markets to remain stable or see only modest growth. Thank you for your questions.
Due to time constraints, now I would like to turn the call back over to the company for closing remarks. Please go ahead.
Thank you once again for joining us today. If you have further questions, please feel free to contact our technologies investor relations team for the contact information provided on our website rprshlanta.financialcommunications.
This concludes the conference call. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.