RenaissanceRe Holdings Ltd.

Good morning. My name is Angela, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Renaissance III second quarter 2025 earnings conference call and webcast. After the prepared remarks, we will open the call for your questions. Instructions will be given at that time. Lastly, if you should need operator assistance, please press star zero. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Keith McHugh, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, Angela. Good morning and welcome to Renaissance Re's second quarter earnings conference call. Joining me today to discuss our results are Kevin O'Donnell, President and Chief Executive Officer, Bob Qutub, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and David Mara, Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer. First, some housekeeping matters. Our discussion today will include forward-looking statements, including new and updated expectations for our business and results of operations. It's important to note that actual results may differ materially from the expectations shared today. Additional information regarding the factors shaping these outcomes can be found in our SEC filings and in our earnings release. During today's call, We will also present non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to GAAP metrics and other information concerning non-GAAP measures may be found in our earnings release and financial supplement, which are available on our website at renry.com. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Kevin. Kevin?

Thanks, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. As you would expect, I review numerous reports detailing our risk, return, liquidity, capital utilization, and innumerable other metrics. I've been doing this at Renry for almost 30 years. In all these years, I have never been more pleased as I am today when I look at these reports and evaluate the state of our business. At the most fundamental level, our objective is to grow tangible book value per share over the long term. This quarter is an excellent example of our ability to do just that. Even with the impact of the California wildfires last quarter and substantial share repurchases, we have grown tangible book value per share by 10% year to date and over 20% over the past 12 months. We also delivered a 24% operating return on equity this quarter. These financial results demonstrate the strength of our income diversification and ability to absorb volatility. They also demonstrate that we are well compensated for the risk we choose to take. This manifests through a combination of underwriting income, investment income, and fee income. Each of these drivers of profit are performing well and are positioned for long-term success. Starting with underwriting, Over the last several years, we have grown and diversified our underwriting portfolio substantially. This has benefited our business in numerous ways. As one of the largest P&C reinsurers in the world, we have built a company designed to solve any risk problem in any class of business for any client. We augment this powerful platform with people and technology that are industry-leading and client-focused. This incentivizes customers to come to us first because we can design better solutions for their biggest problems and back it with significant capacity. This ability to do these things enables us to secure better than market terms. A good example of this is the recent Florida renewal. 80% of the premium we wrote was at private terms above market rates. While we have been doing this for years in property catastrophe, our increased scale allows us to do so more broadly across classes. Obviously, this makes a substantial difference in the quality of our underwriting portfolios, and it bolsters our ability to continue to produce strong returns. The second driver of profit we focus on is investments. Given the nature of cat business, as well as continuing macroeconomic uncertainty, our investment approach remains relatively cautious. That said, over the last year, we have structured our investment portfolio to be strongly accretive in the current environment. As you can see from our investment results year to date, this approach has been successful. Ultimately, our investment portfolio is designed to support our underwriting book. At the same time, the growth and diversification in our underwriting book provides benefits to our investments. Because we are writing a larger portfolio of long-tail casualty and specialty lines, our overall net reserve position has grown to $19 billion. This results in significant investment leverage against a common equity position of $10 billion. At today's yields, this leverage is highly valuable and generates consistent and significant net investment income, which we expect to persist. Equally, if not more important, the growth in reserves has lengthened the duration of our liabilities. This gives us greater flexibility in the allocation and duration of assets. All of these factors benefit our shareholders in a higher for longer interest rate environment. Of course, this investment approach in and of itself does not differentiate us from other diversified reinsurers. But it is different for us, and it should benefit you in a much bigger way than at any previous time in our history. This is one of the key reasons we're more profitable and less volatile than we were five years ago. Our third driver of profit is the fee income we earn in our capital partners business. Our integrated model allows us to deploy more than $10 billion of partner capital to benefit our customers, in addition to our own capital. At the same time, our third-party investors value the low beta returns generated from well-underwritten and expertly sourced risk. For our shareholders, the fees we generate through this business are also highly accretive. Just one quarter after the California wildfires, fees have reset to normal levels, and we have already recaptured management fees deferred from last quarter. The volatility in fee income generally averages out over several quarters, making it a stable and very profitable business for us that we've grown steadily over time. In fact, since the beginning of 2023, fees have totaled almost $700 million. This is more than double the amount we generated over the same period prior to 2023. I should note that we manage third-party capital differently than others, typically in rated balance sheets in which we co-invest. By structuring our platform this way, we can optimize utility to customers and profitability to investors. While we recognize this structure creates certain modeling challenges for the investment community, we are continually working to enhance shareholder disclosures to provide a deeper understanding of the earnings power and competitive mode of our capital partners' B-income business. Shifting now to a discussion of the mid-year renewals and overall business environment. Looking forward, we are positioned to continue to deliver shareholder value. The underwriting market remains attractive with healthy returns across property, catastrophe, and specialty lines. David will discuss the mid-year renewal in detail with you later on the call, but we successfully met all of our objectives. growing property catastrophe in the US while continuing to optimize our casualty and specialty portfolio. For PropertyCat specifically, we constructed our largest net retained portfolio to date. It is also one of our most profitable on an expected basis, both in terms of percentage return, but also in absolute dollars. With regard to casualty and specialty, we have a strong portfolio. Most lines in this segment are performing well. Overall, our casualty and specialty book continues to provide strong returns, primarily from investment income on the considerable float it generates. As we have previously discussed, we are keeping a close eye on casualty lines, including general liability, where we are holding reserve ratios high as we monitor elevated trend. So far, we are encouraged by the rate and claims management improvements we are seeing, which we believe are keeping rates above this elevated trend. At this point in the year, our portfolio is largely set as very little business renews in the second half. Consequently, we are already planning for next year and approach 2026 from a position of continuing rate adequacy, which provides us confidence that our strong returns will persist. This concludes my opening comments. Bob will now discuss our financial performance for the quarter, followed by David, who will provide an update on our segment performance. Thanks.

Bob? Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. We delivered outstanding results this quarter with annualized return on equity of 34% and operating return on equity of 24%. Operating income per share was $12.29, our second-best result ever, exceeded only by this quarter last year. Performance was strong across each of our three drivers of profit, with underwriting income of $602 million, up 26% from last year, fees of $95 million, which fully recovered from losses last quarter, and retained net investment income of $286 million, which remains a consistent and significant contributor to our bottom line. We are proud of our leading returns and have strong conviction in our ability to continue delivering at this level going forward. There are four numbers that help illustrate this. First, 15 points, which is the aggregate contribution from net investment income and fees to our overall return on average common equity. We expect both of these drivers to remain stable over time, and therefore, we begin each quarter with a consistently strong earnings base. Second, $600 million, which was our underwriting profit this quarter. Underwriting leadership is the strategic core of our business, and it typically brings significant upside to the 15 points of the stable base I just described. Third, $1.5 billion. The value of shares we have repurchased since we began buying back in April of 2024. This equates to 6 million shares, or about 70% of what we issued in connection with the validus acquisitions. This demonstrates the robust efficiency of our platform, the strength of our earnings, and most importantly, our conviction in the value of our stock and earnings sustainability going forward. And finally, 20%. This is the amount we have grown our primary metric, tangible book value per share plus change in accumulated dividends, over the last year. This is particularly notable given both the significant volume of shares we have repurchased along with the impact we have absorbed from multiple large loss events, including Hurricanes Helene and Milton and the California wildfires. Year-to-date, we have grown this metric by 10.4%. Now I'd like to turn to a more detailed discussion of our results, starting with our first driver of profit, underwriting, where we had an excellent quarter. We delivered an overall adjusted combined ratio of 73%. This reflected a low level of catastrophe losses and favorable development within both segments. Across our underwriting portfolio, overall gross premiums written were $3.4 billion, flat to the comparable quarter, and net premiums written were $2.7 billion, also flat to last year. However, there was a greater movement at a class of business level as we continue to shape the portfolio, specifically In property catastrophe, we grew gross premiums written by $98 million, or 8%. This reflects our highly successful June 1 renewal where we grew premium in the U.S. by 13% across nationwide and Florida-specific carriers. In credit, professional liability, and specialty, gross premiums were also up at a class level compared to last year, although this primarily related to premium adjustments in Q2 of last year. In other property, gross premiums written were down by $119 million, or 24%. This reflects premium adjustments due to the rate decreases of around 10% to 15% in the ENS business, as well as an adjustment to a large contract. Similarly, general casualty was down $118 million, or 19%. About half of this relates to actions we are taking to reduce general liability exposure. We're also seeing double-digit rate increases in this class, which is partially offsetting the impact of this exposure reduction. As I mentioned previously, we reported more than $600 million of underwriting income. Most of this came from the property segment, where we reported an adjusted combined ratio of 26%, current action year loss ratio of 30%, and favorable development of 31 percentage points. Other property in particular had its strongest quarter yet, with an adjusted combined ratio of 43%. This was driven by solid current year results and a significant favorable development. Casualty and specialty underwriting performance was within our expectations, with an adjusted combined ratio of 99.5%. This included 1.6 points from large specialty events in the quarter, primarily from the Air India tragedy. For the third quarter of 2025, we expect the following metrics in our underwriting book. Within other property, net premiums earned of about $360 million and an attritional loss ratio in the mid-50s. And within casualty and specialty, net premiums earned of about $1.5 billion and an adjusted combined ratio in the high 90s. Moving now to fee income in our capital partners business, where fees were $95 billion for the quarter, up 13%, and remain a powerful driver of shareholder values. This consisted of management fees of $57 million and performance fees of $39 million. Given our strong underwriting results and significant favorable development this quarter, we recaptured the majority of management fees that were deferred as a result of the California wildfires in the first quarter. This also resulted in earning performance fees earlier in the quarter than expected. In the third quarter, we expect fees should be about $80 million, which includes $50 million in management fees and $30 million in performance fees, absent any large loss events. This is a unique business that leverages our existing infrastructure to generate persistent and substantial fees for our shareholders. Its operation requires no shareholder capital, few direct employees, increases our value proposition to customers, and adds roughly three points to our ROE annually. We believe that this is an underappreciated aspect of our business, given its high value generation and high marginal returns. Moving now to our third driver, investments, where retained net investment income was $286 million, up slightly from the first quarter, driven by growth in invested assets. As we discussed on our last call, early in the quarter we acted on market volatility, increasing our allocation to equities, as well as high-yield and investment-grade credits. We reported $343 million of retained mark-to-market gains in the quarter, primarily driven by a rally in shorter-term treasuries in addition to tightening credit spreads and rising equities, a substantial portion of which we accessed through investment-related derivative strategies. Our retained yield and maturity stayed relatively flat at 5 percent, and retained duration was also flat at three years. Looking forward, we expect retained net investment income to remain equally strong in the third quarter. Our investment portfolio is intended to complement our underwriting portfolio. As we have grown and diversified our business, we have greater flexibility in duration and asset mix, while also increasing investment leverage. These factors have allowed us to shape the investment portfolio and evolve the asset mix to increasingly include classes such as private credit, private and public equity, and higher yielding assets. Over time, this should enable us to increase investment income. Our investment portfolio remains well-positioned. So as the interest rate environment evolves over the cycle, we have the tools and flexibility to maintain our investment portfolio's strong contribution to our bottom line. Moving now to expenses. Our interest expense was somewhat elevated due to an overlap between some maturing debt in the quarter and the new issuances from Q1. Our operating expense ratio was 5.2%, up about a point from the second quarter of last year. This is in line with our expectations and reflects our continued investment in the business after a period of significant growth. Looking ahead, we expect our operating expense ratio to stay around 5% for the remainder of the year. Now I'd like to share an update on capital management. We continue to return capital to shareholders this quarter, repurchasing 1.6 million shares for $376 million as an average price of $242 per share. And so far this quarter, We have repurchased 294,000 shares for $70 million at an average price of $239 per share. Year-to-date, that brings total repurchases to 3.3 million shares for $808 million. We remain in a substantial excess capital and robust liquidity position and have demonstrated our ability to generate consistent, strong returns for our shareholders. As we move through the hurricane season, we will continue to look for opportunities to deploy capital into the business while repurchasing shares at attractive valuations. And finishing now with tax, and as a reminder, the new 15% Bermuda corporate income tax went into effect this year, and the results this quarter include a tax expense of $177 million. The effective tax rate on our GAAP net income was 13% this quarter. although the effective tax rate on income attributable to Renaissance Re shareholders is a few points higher. The difference relates to non-controlling interest, which is subject to a minimal amount of income tax. Given the new tax environment, our results this quarter are not directly comparable to last year. On a like-for-like basis, our ability to generate an after-tax 24% operating return on equity indicates that our earnings power is persistently strong. And finally, we delivered excellent results this quarter across each of our three drivers of profit, deploying capital to grow our PropertyCat class of business while continuing to return significant capital through accretive share repurchases. We have the conviction and our ability to continue to deliver superior returns throughout the year. And with that, I'll now turn it over to David.

Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. Our second quarter underwriting performance was excellent. We reported an adjusted combined ratio of 73% and significantly grew our U.S. property catastrophe portfolio at the mid-year renewal, outperforming the market with risk-adjusted rates in our book down low single digits. Our strong results this quarter are directly connected to our unique competitive advantages, including our integrated operating model, deep risk expertise, and customer-centric approach. Our REMS underwriting system enables us to quickly deliver lead quotes and capacity in an integrated way across geographies and classes of business. This allows us to transact seamlessly with our clients across multiple lines. In fact, the majority of our premium comes from clients who buy products across property, casualty, and specialty. Our approach is unique and differentiated, and clients reward us with strong signings and preferential terms. This benefits Renaissance Re shareholders through an attractive combination of underwriting, fee, and investment income. as Kevin and Bob have just discussed. With respect to underwriting income, our margins across the portfolio remain very attractive. Since the reinsurance step change in rates and terms and conditions in 2023, we have generated $3 billion in underwriting profit and industry-leading combined ratios. During this time period, we have reported consistent favorable development, averaging seven points. This has contributed to our underwriting profitability, and is due to the strength of our previous underwriting decisions and our robust reserving process, both of which are key strengths of our business. We manage risk from the time of binding a treaty to the time claims settle, ultimately supporting strong financial results across our underwriting portfolio. We believe that risk is appropriately distributed across the insurance value chain, with reinsurers largely providing balance sheet protection and being paid adequately for doing so. This is why we find the current underwriting market attractive, and it is also why we expect its current terms and conditions to persist. Rate is likely to fluctuate around current levels, depending primarily on shifting supply and demand, but should remain attractive. In short, the dynamics that have driven our strong results this quarter and since 2023 are still in effect and will support us in generating sustainable, superior returns in the future. Now moving to a discussion of our underwriting actions in the quarter. This renewal highlighted Renaissance Re's underwriting culture at its best as we shaped our portfolio at scale in property, casualty, and specialty markets. Across the mid-year renewals, we chose to grow property catastrophe exposure in an attractive environment, deploying leading capacity at rates and terms that outperform the broader market, maintain our exposure in other property, shape our specialty portfolio, and continue to reduce exposure in select casualty lines where we believe caution is warranted. Our highest marginal return business is currently US property catastrophe, where we grew premiums by 13% in the quarter, deploying capital at attractive expected returns. Loss experience and rate changes varied widely across clients and layers. Loss impacted layers were flat to up 15, although in California, rate increases were much higher. Conversely, loss free layers were down five to 15%. Our ability to understand each program quote early, and select the most profitable layers gave us a competitive advantage. As a result, we constructed a portfolio with rate down low single digits, which is a strong outcome given that we estimate the market was down around 10%. Our key areas of growth, where rates were flat to up, were Florida, California, and loss-impacted nationwide carriers. In Florida, we believe the pricing environment, terms and conditions, and tort reform have helped stabilize the market. In addition, growth and demand created an opportunity for us to deploy significant capital at private terms, as buyers looked to secure increased capacity. As Kevin mentioned, we wrote 80% of our Florida premium at private terms above the market. We have been underweight in Florida, but our position as a market leader enabled us to grow, with rates roughly flat. We also grew in California, where most business had been impacted by the catastrophic LA wildfires last quarter. Renaissance ReRisk Sciences provided us with a competitive advantage by rapidly updating our California wildfire models to reflect an updated view of risk. After all, we provided lead market quotes and grew into an increasing rate environment, achieving premium rate increases of more than 50% on some loss-impacted programs. And finally, we also grew selectively with loss-impacted nationwide carriers, using our risk selection capabilities to target growth. and our customer relationships to secure bigger lines at rates up in the high single digits. Year-to-date, we have deployed $1.7 billion of new limit into property cap, with $1 billion of this in the second quarter. Our property catastrophe book is the largest we have ever written and among the most profitable on an expected absolute dollar basis. Before moving on to other classes of business, there are three points I would like to highlight about how we have shaped our risk going into this wind season. First, due to our growth in property catastrophe at the mid-year renewals, risk is up on an absolute basis for U.S. perils, although more heavily weighted toward the tail. Second, on a percentage of equity basis, risk is also up, but generally in line or below the levels prior to the balance acquisition. And finally, we purchased additional seeded protection, including products which provide increased resilience against multiple large events, such as second event covers and the issuance of a cap bond providing aggregate protection. I will now briefly touch on themes we have observed across other classes of business, which broadly align to what we have seen earlier in the year, starting with other property. We have been optimizing the mix of this book and are now seeing profit materialize following consecutive years of rate increases, beginning in late 2017 through mid 2024. We are pleased with the strong returns we have generated, both on a current and prior year basis. Going forward, we are seeing increased competition and lower rates for E&S property business. We are monitoring this closely and will adjust our portfolio with respect to business that does not meet our hurdles. In casualty, rates in U.S. general liability continue to increase at approximately 15%. This is ahead of trend, but we remain cautious and will continue to take a conservative approach. Casualty business is mostly quota share, and due to the long tail, we manage it over a 10-year cycle. During the last year, we have worked closely with our clients with a partnership lens, enhancing our underwriting and claims information flow, and structuring our lines to create the optimal portfolio for the next cycle. This data-driven underwriting approach will result in additional improvements in the business over and above the rate and claims improvements made by our clients. Over the last year, we have scaled back where exposure was greatest and reduced our general liability exposure in the U.S. by approximately 30%, although significant rate increases have helped moderate the top-line impact. Moving to specialty. Our diversified book remains highly attractive and profitable. Some lines, like aviation, have seen increased loss activity and are responding with additional rate. Others, like energy and cyber, have remained profitable despite recent loss events. We have expert teams in each class and constantly evaluate our positions to optimize the portfolio based on risk and reward in the business. Finally, in credit, performance continues to be strong, and we remain prudently positioned to navigate uncertainty in the current geopolitical environment. with a diversified risk profile and conservatively managed portfolios across the spectrum of mortgage, trade credit, and political risk, surety, and structured credit. In closing, just as each program's pricing reflects its unique risk profile, each re-insurer's experience at the mid-year renewal reflected the expertise and leadership they brought to the market. For companies like Renaissance Re, with preferential access and deep client trust, we were able to build a portfolio with highly accretive economics that positions us for continued strong performance. And with that, I'll turn it back to Kat.

Thanks, David. Our business is exceptionally healthy. All three drivers of profit outperformed expectations, and the current environment remains favorable. We had a strong renewal and constructed our largest and one of our most profitable net retained property cat portfolios. Our capital partners business has recovered to its full fee-generating potential and continues to contribute substantial low-volatility earnings to our bottom line. Finally, the interest rate environment remains attractive, and we took advantage of market weakness to increase our allocation to equities and high yield, which should help increase returns. And with that, I'll open it up for questions.

At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to remove yourself from the queue, you may do so by pressing star 2. We remind you to please unmute your line when introduced, and if possible, pick up your handset for optimal sound quality. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. We'll take our first question from Elise Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Your line is open. Please go ahead.

Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question is on the reserve releases in the quarter. I think it was around $132 million. I'm focusing on the property CAT piece. And I know you guys called out from 21, 22, and 23. I'm just curious, was one of those years like the bigger driver of the releases? And, you know, I guess the second part of that question is, I'm just curious if the releases just stemmed from, you know, Milton or Florida events that would just be reflective of, you know, just the reforms working in the state.

Hey, Elise. Thanks. This is Bob. It comes from across all the accident periods going all the way back to 2017. And we share some of those losses with our joint ventures. About half of that sticks to us.

Okay, thanks. And then I guess just, you know, it seems like the renewals at the mid-year, you know, on the property cap side, you know, played out well relative to your expectations, I guess. You know, Kevin, as you, you know, think forward, I guess, obviously a lot depends what happens with this hurricane season. But how are you thinking about things, you know, going into 2026, both January 1 and then, you know, even, you know, with the Florida renewals heading into the mid-years next year?

Yeah, great. Thanks. Yeah, you're right. This year has gone exceptionally well, and I think it's important to kind of remind ourselves as to where we are as we're thinking about planning for 2026. We've grown our portfolios where we've chosen to grow, and we've had good opportunities, and we continue to execute our strategy well. So, as I look at where we are heading into 2026 you know really at this point as i mentioned in my comments not much business comes up between now and year end so one of the bigger variables will be what happens in win season but if you break win season down um all win season does is if it's an inactive year it gives buyers pricing power and if it's an active year it gives reinsurers pricing power What we've talked about before is since 2023, we think the market is reset and will trade around this new level. And that is really what we've seen. And we have proven that we can execute to produce better than market returns in that environment. So regardless of what happens between now and year end, really the way we're looking at it is we'll continue to execute our strategy. We believe we can continue to preserve our margin. We have no change in our ability to find opportunity to deploy capital. We have a strong capital and liquidity position, so we believe we can continue to manage capital through share repurchases. So as we're really beginning to shift our focus from writing our book for 2025 to planning for 2026, Nothing has changed with our strategy. Between now and year end, we'll have great conversations, have price discovery. We'll sharpen our tools and tactics. But I think at the end of the day, 26 is going to look a lot like 25 for us.

Thank you.

Sure.

We'll take our next question from Josh Shanker with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Thank you.

Yeah, thank you. I just wanted to talk about management fees a little bit. I think at the last quorum call, you were pretty sure that management fees would be a little weaker, and they've bounced back real fast. What's changed in the past few months, and also how does the AlphaCat, OmegaCat book and that winding down play into the numbers here?

Yeah, I'll just make a couple comments. I'll turn it over to Bob. No, you're absolutely right. I think we had a strong second quarter. It tends to be a light cat quarter. That is not necessarily what's budgeted. So we had greater earnings or greater catch-up on our fees because of that. And then obviously favorable development benefited our third-party capital vehicles as well. So that pushed us to recover some of the deferred fees more quickly. AlphaCat, OmegaCat were not a big contributor, but I'll turn it over, Bob, for more specifics.

That's it. I mean, as my prepared comments, Josh, the management fee, we expected the deferral to be a little bit longer. We got it all back, which is why the $56 million, but we're guiding you back to $50 million for the third quarter in my prepared comments for the management fee. And as Kevin pointed out, the favorable development and the property cap side accelerated the ability to earn the performance fees, but we're still guiding it to $30 million for the next quarter. So, 80 all in for Q3. And that's kind of what I refer to as the more stable area, kind of sort of neutral.

So when I'm looking at the DaVinci income statement, it looks like premium growth is pretty healthy at DaVinci. I guess where I'm going, have you been able to convince Alphacat investors to redeploy into your proprietary vehicles? Or why is there a difference between what we see at the firm-wide level and property and what we see at DaVinci?

Yeah, so AlphaCat is not something, you know, it's a vehicle that we purchased with Validus and we're managing down. We have broad and strong investor interest in DaVinci. So there's the migration of investors is not part of the story. It's really the ability for us to execute into the market and continue to grow both Renri and DaVinci.

And just bear with me more. The fact that DaVinci, was there more opportunity to deploy capital into DaVinci, or was there more capital in DaVinci so the risk-adjusted returns are the same? I'm looking at the strong growth there, and it says to me that you leaned into DaVinci in the quarter, or maybe you just had more capital.

This is Bob, Josh. The way I look at it is that all of our property CAD is going to our own account in DaVinci and We're not cultivating in the Aflacap space. That's kind of a multi-risk strategy that doesn't fit our purpose-built balance sheets.

Yeah, just to remind everyone, DaVinci is – Not exactly this, but it behaves a bit like a quota share of Renry Limited. There's no risk in DaVinci that's not in Renry Limited. One of the benefits was some of the favorable development. There was a little bit less seeded in DaVinci than in Renry Limited. But I would think of no shift in earnings and no shift in strategy between Renry and DaVinci going forward. But in a giving quarter, there will be a little bit of noise. Okay. Thank you.

We'll take our next question from Jimmy Buehler with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. I had a couple of questions. First, just on pricing, obviously prices have been coming down the last couple of years, but returns are still very attractive for you guys and for your peers as well. So what gives you the confidence that rates won't continue to decline and we're not facing a soft reinsurance market?

Yeah, kind of back to the comments we've made on previous calls and a little bit earlier is, no, you're absolutely right. There are price changes, but I think the real focus should be rate adequacy. Rates went up 50% in 2023, and over the last two quarters, we're talking about rate changes in the 10-ish percentage change, obviously less for us because of our portfolio construction and access to business. So we believe that the market will continue to trade in both on terms and conditions and rates at the levels that were reset in 2023. You know, as with any financial market, there'll be times where buyers have a bit more to push on price and there's times where sellers have a bit more to push on price. But we don't see a downward trend to rate inadequacy in the near term. We continue to believe that rates will trade at highly adequate levels, whether they're up or down a little bit is something the market will decide as we move forward.

And then on buybacks, it seems like you've been more active the last few quarters than you had in the past. I think the last three quarters combined, you've taken out almost 10% of your shares. So assuming a similar level of profitability, should we assume that buybacks continue at this pace, or is the current level inflated either to minimize the validus dilution or like some other factors?

I think thanks for the question. You're taking us back to fourth quarter. You know, we consolidated some of the balance sheets and we freed up an enormous amount of trap capital. That would account for a lot of the accelerated share repurchases that we did in Q4, Q1. We saw great opportunities this quarter here, this past quarter in Q2 that carry over into three. So we've gotten $800 million. I mean, you know, mindful of the fact we're going into the win season, you know, which may provide opportunities in of itself. We are looking to deploy capital. and return capital at attractive prices if it presents itself.

Thanks. We'll take our next question from Alex Scott with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. First one I had is on just following up on some of the prepared remarks around added you know, outward reinsurance that you purchased. And I think there was a cap on aggregate that was mentioned as well. And, you know, just wanted to see if you'd provide a little more detail around that and help us, you know, just think through some of those things in accounting for, you know, what may or may not come from hurricane season.

Hi, Alex. This is David. I'll provide some additional comments. So as we construct our N-Words portfolio, we have a lot of options with how we shape that portfolio with seeded reinsurance. We buy reinsurance. We purchase cap bonds. We also have the joint venture vehicles that share some of the risk with us. One thing that we did specifically from wind season last year to wind season this year was we continued to buy. We bought additional seeded. The seeded is getting more efficient. And specifically, there was some seeded that was, aside from our normal per-occurrence seeded, we bought purchased a cap bond, which was an aggregate in nature. We also have a cap bond, which is a occurrence in nature. We have also some seeded reinsurance, which is specifically second event to protect against accumulation of large events. It's all to, in order to keep our net portfolio optimized and the highest ROI we can and protecting against scenarios where earnings can be impacted.

Got it. Okay. That's helpful. I just wanted to ask about the casualty business. You know, you guys pulled back a little more than I would have guessed in some of the general liability. And, you know, is that something that changes your view at all in terms of reserve adequacy? Is that something you've already done a deeper review on and this is sort of the, you know, the action on the other side of it? Or is there new information that, you know, you're still sort of implementing and the balance sheet?

I'll start and then I'll turn it over to Dave. Nothing's changed about reserves or anything like that. This is more about how we want to structure the portfolio. As David mentioned, 25 from a casualty perspective by every measure is a better year than 24, but we want to see more persistence in that improvement before we begin to reflect that in our results just to make sure that we are fully benefiting from the better claims management and the elevated rate compared to the trend. So when I think about it, this is much more about the written portfolio and how it fits into the and marginally benefits the overall portfolio that we're writing than a reflection on the health of the legacy portfolio that was written. I don't know if you'd add something.

Yeah, I can address some of the portfolio movements that we've made. With the casualty and specialty segment, we're always looking to how to optimize the portfolio. If you go back several years, we were overweight credit, and we grew general liability and professional liability into 2021 when rates were increasing. And now we have more emphasis on the specialty book following the validus acquisition. The reductions in GL was really just part of that normal process. And we've been talking about that for about the last year, and that's enough for all of the renewals to be touched once. There's not one common renewal date. So that's what you're seeing there.

Got it. Okay. Thank you.

Sure.

We'll take our next question from Wes Carmichael with Autonomous Research. Please go ahead.

Hey, thank you. Good morning. Kevin, in your prepared remarks, I think you talked about Florida renewals and getting rates and terms above the market. I know you don't typically disclose PMLs, but is there any color qualitatively you can share with us on how your Florida CAT exposure has changed since renewals?

Yeah. I think it's a combination of both something that I said and Dave said is we did grow into the Florida renewal this year. We did it, you know, significantly above market terms. So we feel really good about the economics. If you break it down, I think it puts us from a market share perspective for Southeast Wind about where we were on a percentage of equity to the levels we were prior to the acquisition of Validus. So last year, a lot of our growth into Florida came not from expanding lines that we were on, but making sure we executed the Validus lines. This year, we were able to bring an underweight market share for Southeast Wind back up to our market share on a relative basis at the same percent of equity that we had prior to Validus.

And maybe as a follow-up, it's probably a little bit of a tough one to quantify, but a question we get often from investors. And you mentioned the PropCat books, the largest it's been, but is there any level of industry losses here in wind season that you think might recatalyze pricing in the PropCat market for January?

You know, I think it, well, let's trace to where we are. So, this year is already setting up from an aggregate basis to be a very substantial cat year. I think a lot of it happens, a lot of the impact from an event really is specific to where the event hit. It will have a very different effect on nationwide accounts if it hits in Florida than if it hits in the northeast. So I think, you know, larger events are going to have bigger impacts. In general, the reinsurance market is attaching higher. So I would say, you know, it also has to be probably a larger event than what we would have had prior to 2023. But it's pretty hard to put a fine point on it. You know, if you look back at Helene or Milton, they had relatively – the impact wasn't as profound as it would have been prior to 2023, so something above that level perhaps.

Thank you. Very helpful.

We'll take our next question from Mike Zaremski with BMO.

Hey, morning. Question on the, I think you did a good job of kind of giving us data points on why your midyear portfolio is constructed better than the market average. Do you feel, and you said it was due to scale, and you kind of talked about 80% of the premium you wrote at private market terms above market rates. So I'm just kind of curious, is that durable? I don't know if there's any, like, is there any, you know, historical presence for this wide of a delta? I'd have to go back and kind of check all your mid-year renewals versus the market. I haven't done that off the fly. But kind of curious if this new scale you think has some duration in terms of your pricing versus the marketplace.

Yeah, I would say I'm enormously proud of the team's execution. You know, 80% is a great number to achieve with private terms. We always have a high percentage of private terms within our portfolio. I think there's two things that we tried to highlight. One is this was exceptionally good and great execution. And secondly, because we're so broadly integrated with the largest buyers. Our conversations begin earlier and more broadly, and the size of our capacity and the expertise we bring allows us to have an increasing percentage of private terms in different areas of our business. So I would say it's not something that's new. I would say 80% is on the high end of our execution. I'm very proud of that, but hard to quantify more specifically. Dave?

Yeah, I would say it was a great renewal for us, and a couple of reasons in my mind on that is really just our risk selection capabilities and our access to business. And those two things, I believe, are sustainable. If the market was not uniform, it was an underwriter's market. You had to pick and choose risks. Our underwriters know that business better than anyone, and we think we have the best access there. So that was a differentiator, not just in Florida, which allowed us to get the 80% of the book on private terms and deliver flat rates, but also in understanding and being able to execute on the other key areas there. We talked about California. The key there was understanding the wildfire peril and being able to figure out how to execute into a post-loss market quicker than anyone else. And then the loss-impacted nation-wides, that was really about risk selection and then our ability to get those lines. So the team really did that. That's what they do best. They showed leadership and delivered a great portfolio.

Got it. And my follow-ups on Florida tort reform, I think, Kevin, you brought it up in your prepared remarks that it's beneficial. Just curious, you know, you don't have to, if you have a proprietary, you know, quantification of how beneficial is, you know, maybe that's not something you want to share. But curious, are the reforms meaningful in terms of the impact Renry feels they'll have on the loss ratio ultimately? And If so, are those positive impacts already being competed away? Are they fully understood by the marketplace, or is that something that still needs more time to play out?

Yeah, so it's a more meaningful impact for the domestic carriers or for any carrier in Florida. because it affects all their claims. For us, we're excess or loss on the CAT side predominantly. We're still an owner of Tower Hill, and we've seen the benefit there. Your question about is it some of it being competed away, we have seen some rate reductions in Florida, which I think are appropriate, and we're still seeing strong profitability and strong health in the primary market there. So from our standpoint, it's something that we reflect in our underwriting, but it's a significantly lower effect than the benefit that the insurers are receiving within the market. But again, there is price competition being introduced to manage that and put some of the benefit back to policyholders.

Dave? Yeah, I would just add to that that the dynamic where there's the public markets are depopulating and private markets are more confident taking on risk, that definitely has something to do with the tort reform and the ability for the insurers to navigate that. And that benefits us as well because when the private markets grow their exposure, they have more reinsurance to buy, and the growing demand was a factor that helped us in the opportunities in Q2.

Thank you.

We'll take our next question from Meyer Shields with KBW.

Great. Thanks so much. You're connected to Florida. I'm trying to understand, you talked about growth at flat rates, and I was wondering if there's a way of breaking that down into increasing confidence in the reforms on the one hand or increasing demand from clients on the other hand in terms of which of those different components impacted your willingness to grow.

Yeah. Hi, Myra. This is David. With their tort reform, one of the takeaways that helps the market and helps us execute into the market is really just the stability it provides. So we have been a player in Florida for decades, but for many years we were underweight, partly because of the negative effects of the legal system. Now it's in a much better spot, and the profitability is in a much better spot. So this year we had opportunities because business was loss-impacted, and we also had growing demand, like I mentioned, with private markets taking on more We also had the benefit of the Florida Hurricane Cat Fund moving up in its attachment. So the new demand was below that. And those lower layers are layers that we target because of the high risk return. So that as a whole enabled us to act quickly. When buyers are looking to secure new capacity, they often will be more interested in securing a private deal with a company like us. So our ability to quote big capacity and bind that at our terms rather than wait for the market to come up with the clearing price really was an advantage in how we executed into those private deals in Q2.

That's really positive. Kevin, I don't know if I'm over-interpreting things, but you mentioned having, you know, any class of business. And I know in the past you've talked about a lot of caution with regard to commercial auto. Should we interpret this as a change or am I trying too hard?

It had a bit of poetic license there. Our appetite with regard to commercial auto hasn't changed. We're also not a large rider of workers' comp. Neither of those two things have changed.

Okay. I appreciate the clarification. And then this is, I guess, a question for Bob, and I'm happy to take this offline if that's helpful, but you kind of mentioned increased transparency. Is it a ton of work for us to get an income statement on a retained basis rather than consolidated and then working back and forth?

That's a good question, Myra. I mean, the challenge we have is the GAAP accounting rules and the amount of breaking it out. We try and give you the breakout. We give you the breakout of the retained investment income, which is about 70% of the overall managed, and that's pretty consistent. You know, we've given you some indications on the retained piece, like on the favorable development. I talked about that on PropertyCat. I said about half of it stays with us. We don't really have a good disclosure. We look at it internally, and to get it externally would be an enormous amount of reconciliations that our legal department would probably put us through the grinder. Happy to talk to you offline about it. I know you talk to Keith a lot about it and how we think about it. We've given you indications about half the property CAT gets allocated over to DaVinci on the top line. We've got the 15% sessions on Fontana. We talk about that, but Putting it all together is an onerous exercise, just given the nature of how we're structured. But we're always seeking to try. I'm sorry, go ahead. Like I said, I was closing up and saying, we're always trying to seek to give you more insight into it and more information on how you can cut down to the core and get down to the retained numbers.

Yeah, no, I completely get that. I appreciate the color.

We'll take our next question from Brian Meredith with UBS.

Yeah, thanks, Bob. First one for you. I know there's continued to be some discussion about Bermuda tax credits potentially coming through. Can you give us an update on kind of where that stands and, you know, what the potential, you know, benefit for you all may be?

No, thanks, Brian. I touched upon it in my prepared comments that nothing's changed, okay? They haven't come out with the – what they have is a tax reform commission is working with the Ministry of Finance to give them some recommendations. They're still working on that. And the Premier is committed to give us an ability to give our perspective on it before it gets legislated. But what this does is the ETA, as we call it, the Economic Tax Adjustment, gives us the ability to offset cash payments on our taxes as opposed to effective rate relief. It doesn't change the effective tax. I talked about that being 13 percent in my prepared comments, but the non-controlling interests pay a very nominal amount of tax, so that reduces it. But the tax to RENRE shareholders is 15, just slightly above 15 percent.

Male Speaker 1 I guess just to follow up on that, I was under the impression that maybe it could be an offset to G&A expenses. Male Speaker 2 No. Male Speaker 1 No?

Okay. Male Speaker 2 It's a cash credit.

Gotcha. All right. Helpful. Thanks. And then the second question, I'm just curious, big picture, we've definitely seen capital coming back into the reinsurance industry and property cat. I know a lot of it's been cat bond, but maybe you can kind of talk a little bit about how disciplined that capital is that you're seeing. Is it any different than maybe prior soft cycles we've seen?

Yeah, I would say it's been disciplined. Capital is is always interested and always comes into it. I think formations of new companies continues to be limited. Cap bonds is an attractive area to people, probably a little less attractive than it was a year ago, but that market remains disciplined. And then our discussions with investors coming in are very return-focused. They have a good understanding of the market. So I don't see... some of the issues that we've seen before with the influx of capital, you know, kind of wanting to be in the class regardless of return, really being part of the dialogue at this point.

Great. Very helpful. Thank you.

Sure.

And we'll take our next question from Andrew Anderson with Jeffries.

Hey, thanks. Recognizing you gave an MPE guide for other property, but if we look at it on a gross basis and just thinking about the second half of the year, should we be thinking about this segment kind of following primary E&S rates?

Hey, Andrew, this is David. So I'll talk a little more about how we're thinking about the overall segment and what's in there. And I guess, you know, first of all, starting with the overall property segment, we have a lot of ways we can deploy CAT capacity. In the last few years, we've had a preference to deploy the CAT capacity in the property CAT access of lost product. But we also deploy CAT capacity in the E&S space, and that goes into the other property segment. We also have per risk and quota share business in that segment, which is less CAT exposed and isn't under as much rate pressure as what we're seeing in CAT E&S. And overall, the whole subsegment of another property is performing well, which kind of leads to where we get the pressure. Looking forward, we're monitoring that really closely. We have a lot of tools to manage that. First of all, when we look at the business on a specific location basis, rate it on a location basis and have real-time info on how it's trading. So we're able to make adjustments as needed. You're already shifting more of our business towards middle market versus large account. We also have options on how we shape the book was seeded. So we have a lot of ways to navigate what's coming. It's too soon to tell exactly where the market will be, but we feel well-placed to navigate it.

Thanks. And then just back on fee income, if I look at kind of the acquisition ratio in CAD, it was kind of up year over year, but it was quite a bit stronger in 1Q. I would have thought we would be seeing some benefit from total fee income in that acquisition line. Is there maybe a lag there or perhaps profit commissions?

No, they're coming through in real time. A lot of our fees that we get off of the joint ventures will come through the non-controlling interest. Actually, a very small amount come through when you think about the performance fees and the management fees. So you'll see that that comes through non-controlling interest, which is what we try and show in some of the supplemental information in our attachments.

Thank you.

And we'll take our last question from David Motemadden with Evercore.

Hey, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for squeezing me in. Just on the private transactions you guys were able to do in CAT, you know, it sounded like 80% was on the high end. I'm wondering maybe if you could talk about how pricing was on that 80% of private deals versus the other 20%.

Hey, David, this is David. So we're comfortable with that the pricing was above market. It wasn't a one-size-fits-all market, so we don't have specific details on that. But we were able to execute into Florida and find up business early. This is a large portion of our book to be on private terms, and it really was the differentiator, we believe, in letting us grow into the market and land Florida at about flat versus down. There was rate pressure overall in the market on the non-loss-impacted layers and the top layers like we talked about. So, for our overall Florida book to be flat was a great result.

David Gardner. Got it. Okay. And then maybe just following up quickly, I think Alex had tried, and I'll take another shot at it. But just on the general liability book or general casualty book where you mentioned you're cutting exposure by 30% or you have cut exposure by 30% over the last year. Have you guys taken any reserve actions or how much in terms of reserve actions have you guys taken on that part of the back book now where you may have gotten off that risk?

Yeah, when we think about reserving, you know, obviously we start at the top of the house and then we break it into the segments. Within the casualty and specialty segment, we talked about this last year. We have added some reserves from redundancy within certain specialty and certain casualty classes to the GL portfolio. But there's nothing that is unusual with, you know, in any book of business, there's certain classes that are above producing reserves. results above trend, others that are below trend. But on balance, the portfolio, the casualty specialty book is in a very healthy state, so there's nothing really to report with regard to any changes within over the quarter.

Great. Thank you.

This does conclude today's question and answer session. I will now turn the program back over to Kevin O'Donnell for any additional or closing remarks.

Thank you, everybody, for joining today's call. We're proud of where the company is going into the second half of the year, and we remain optimistic about 2026. So, look forward to speaking to you in a couple months. Thank you.

This concludes the Redis on 3 second quarter 2025 earnings call and webcast. Please disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful