2/4/2026

speaker
Nikki
Conference Operator

Good morning. My name is Nikki, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Renaissance RE fourth quarter and year end 2025 earnings conference call and webcast. After the prepared remarks, we will open the call for your questions. Instructions will be given at that time. Lastly, if you should need operator assistance, please press star zero. Thank you. I will now turn the call over to Keith McHugh, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Keith McHugh, Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations Thank you, Nikki.

speaker
Keith McHugh
Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations

Good morning, and welcome to Renaissance Re's fourth quarter and year-end 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me today to discuss our results are Kevin O'Donnell, President and Chief Executive Officer, Bob Qutub, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, and David Marra, Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer, to begin some housekeeping matters. Our discussion today will include forward-looking statements, including new and updated expectations for our business and results of operations. It's important to note that actual results may differ materially from the expectations shared today. Additional information regarding the factors shaping these outcomes can be found in our SEC filings and in our earnings release. During today's call, we will also present non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations to GAAP metrics and other information concerning non-GAAP measures may be found in our earnings release and financial supplement, which are available on our website at renry.com. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Kevin. Kevin?

speaker
Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Keith. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining today's call. The company we have built is fundamentally different from what it was just a few years ago. We are larger and significantly more diversified geographically by line of business and by source of income with much larger contributions from investments and fees. I begin with this context because this time last year, few would have predicted the strong financial performance we delivered in 2025. Our industry faced multiple headwinds. including the California wildfires, a softening reinsurance market and lower interest rates. In the face of these headwinds, our larger size and greater diversification allowed us to deliver strong financial results. Bob will, of course, walk through the financials. But first, I would like to highlight some of the most notable achievements. Operating income was $1.9 billion. Operating ROE was 18%. and tangible book value per share plus accumulated dividends, our primary metric, grew by 30%. This is the third year in a row where we have grown this metric by over 25%. As a result, over the last three years, we have more than doubled tangible book value per share. Capital management was also notable. We repurchased $650 million of our shares during the fourth quarter. 13 percent of our shares over the course of 2025, and 17 percent of our shares since the first quarter of 2024 when we began repurchasing post-validus. I am pleased to report that we have now repurchased more shares than we issued in connection with the validus acquisition. The cumulative return on our shares since then, a little over two years ago, has been around 30 percent. This demonstrates our ability to raise capital when we have an attractive opportunity reward investors by returning capital as we realize its benefits, and execute transactions with minimal long-term dilution. Bob will speak to you in greater depth regarding our financial results, but overall, I am proud of our performance. Moving now to address strategic results in 2025. Strategically, if 2024 was about retaining the validus portfolio and successfully integrating the company, 2025 was about maintaining our underwriting book and optimizing our larger and more dispersed operations. We undertook a number of internal initiatives to improve efficiency and effectiveness and better manage our increased scale. We are upgrading our underwriting system to be more customer-centric and enhancing the architecture to be more efficiently organized to benefit from the growing influence of artificial intelligence. Moving now to some remarks on our casualty and specialty segment. Aggregate under-earning profits on the portfolio have been almost $500 million over the last five years without the impact of purchase accounting. As we have discussed, however, earnings from this business emanate from three separate income streams, underwriting, fees, and investments. It's harder to see the full benefit of casualty because fees are offset in our NCI and investments are not split by segment. This year alone, casualty specialty contributed about one-third of our operating income across our three drivers of profit. The goal of any line of business is to grow tangible book value per share over time. In casualty, there's a tradeoff between underwriting results and investment results. Typically, when one is high, the other is lower, and vice versa. Over a 10-year cycle, this balance of profit shifts back and forth, but nevertheless contributes to growth in tangible book value per share. Currently, the balance within the specialty portfolio is heavily skewed toward investment returns. As a result, the market has tolerated rising technical ratios. This reduces underwriting margins available to compensate for inherent volatility. My belief is that technical ratios will fall, but it's difficult to predict when. For now, we will continue to monitor this class closely and make appropriate adjustments. That said, while margins are tight, investment and fee income from casualty are currently a substantial driver of book value growth. So we are not recognizing much underwriting profit today, which we think is the right approach in the current environment, and are still making a strong overall return. I want to briefly touch on the January 1 renewal and our outlook for 2026. David will address this in more detail. Property CAT rates for us were down low teen percentages. We found some opportunities to grow, which should keep top-line premium and property CAT down only mid-single digits, excluding the impact of reinstatement premiums. Terms and conditions mostly held solid, including retentions. As I previously mentioned, we are a larger and more diversified company. Two drivers of these changes occurred in 2023, the step change in PropertyCat and our acquisition of Validus. So, I think a comparison of our present opportunity set to the pre-2023 period is constructive. Rates in PropertyCat remain attractive and well above return levels realized in the years before 2023. Equally important, most of the structural changes made in 2023 are still in place. As a result, our reinsurance portfolio in 2026 is still one of our best. A few other favorable comparisons to 2022. Our underwriting portfolio is roughly one-third larger. Our retained net investment income has tripled. and our fee income has more than doubled. In aggregate, when we look at our current state versus where we were before 2023, all points of comparison are favorable. Our increased scale and diversified sources of income mean we are more resilient to loss. This gives us great confidence in our reinsurance portfolio and our continued ability to deliver consistent, superior returns to our shareholders. I'd like to finish my comments with a discussion about how we plan to continue growing tangible book value per share this year at an attractive pace by employing a similar strategy to last year. This strategy was something I discussed last quarter and was composed of the following factors. First, to maintain or grow our property business. Second, focus on preserving underwriting margin. Third, prioritize casualty cedents who focus on claims handle practicing over those who solely focus on rate. Fourth, continue to grow fees in our capital partners business. Fifth, continue to grow invested assets. And finally, continue returning capital to our shareholders by repurchasing shares that attract evaluations. I should add one more point to this list, which is continue to execute our gross to next strategy to arbitrage competitive cap on market and retro markets. As you can see, we have quite a few strategic levers to keep returns attractive. This is the playbook we successfully ran in 2025 and is the one we will run in 2026. That concludes my initial comments. I'll turn it over to Bob to discuss our financial performance for the quarter and for the year, before Dave provides a more detailed update and renewal in our segments.

speaker
Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you. Thanks, Kevin, and good morning, everyone. In 2025, we demonstrated the efficacy of our strategy and the persistence of our earnings profile, delivering operating income of $1.9 billion, even with a $786 million net negative impact from large events. My comments today will focus primarily on the drivers and sustainability of these annual results. I also want to touch on some highlights from the fourth quarter where we delivered operating earnings per share of $13.34, and an operating return on equity of 22%. In the quarter, all three drivers of profit produced strong results. Specifically, underwriting income was $669 million with a combined ratio of 71%. Fee income was $102 million and retained investment income was $314 million. Both fees and retained net investment income are among the highest we have ever reported and demonstrate that we have continued to optimize these drivers as our underwriting portfolio has grown. Building on this, there are four numbers I have consistently highlighted that demonstrate the strength of our earnings profile and our ability to absorb volatility. The first number is 15 points, which is the annual aggregate contribution to our overall return on average common equity from our investment and fee income in 2025. This is consistent with 2024. and creates a stable base of earnings each quarter, which we then build upon. The second number is $1.3 billion, which is the underwriting income we generated in 2025, including a $1.1 billion underwriting loss from the California wildfires. Underwriting is the core of our business and provides significant upside to the earnings base from fees and investments. The third number is $1.6 billion, which is the amount of capital we returned to shareholders in 2025. Throughout the year, we purchased over 6.4 million shares. The average price of these share repurchases was near book value, essentially returning all of our operating income with minimal dilution. We believe that our stock represents excellent value at current levels and expect share repurchases to continue in 2026, in line with our long history of being good stewards of our shareholders' capital. And finally, the fourth number is 31%. which is the amount we grew tangible book value per share plus change in accumulated dividends in 2025. As Kevin highlighted, we have more than doubled this metric over the last three years through a combination of strong retained earnings and disciplined capital management. Now I'd like to turn to a detailed view of our three drivers of profit, starting with underwriting, where we delivered excellent results with an adjusted combined ratio of 85 percent for the year. This performance is particularly strong given that we absorbed several large losses across both segments. For property catastrophe specifically, we reported a current accident year loss ratio of 64% for the year and an adjusted combined ratio of 60%. This current accident year loss ratio included 50 percentage points of losses from the California wildfires and 3 percentage points of losses from Hurricane Melissa. Property catastrophe also benefited from 24 percentage points of prior year favorable development, primarily from large events in 2022 through 2024 and changes to attritional loss estimates. Note that in the fourth quarter in property catastrophe, we reduced our total estimate of net negative impact from the California wildfires by $42 million, driven by lower case reserves reported by our seedings during the renewal process. In other property, we delivered exceptional results in 2025 with a current accident year loss ratio of 62% and adjusted combined ratio of 60%. This is the lowest annual combined ratio we have delivered since we started reporting the other property class of business. The other property current accident loss year ratio for the year included eight percentage points from the California wildfires and two percentage points from Hurricane Melissa. Other property had 33 points of favorable development from prior years, primarily related to attritional losses. In casualty and specialty, we reported an adjusted combined ratio of 102% for the year. This includes four percentage points from large loss events in 2025. In the fourth quarter specifically, we reported losses on two recent events, the UPS aircraft crash and the Grasberg Mine landslide in Indonesia. These two events impacted our quarterly adjusted combined ratio by four percentage points, pushing it to 102%. Prior development and casualty and specialty on a cash basis was slightly favorable for both the year and the fourth quarter, before the impact of 50 basis points of purchase accounting adjustments. Across our underwriting portfolio, gross premiums written for the year were $11.7 billion, and net premiums written were $9.9 billion. both roughly flat compared to 2024. In property catastrophe, we leaned into opportunities in the U.S. and grew gross premiums written by 5% this year and by $17 million in the fourth quarter in both instances without the impact of reinstatement premiums. Gross premiums written in other property declined by 11% in the year. We have been holding exposure flat in this class while managing a declining rate environment. This book continues to produce strong results. In casualty and specialty, gross premiums written in 2005 were roughly flat compared to last year. We found opportunities to grow our credit book primarily through season mortgage deals. This offset declines in casualty where we have been optimizing the book and net negative premium adjustments in specialty, largely from rate deceleration in cyber. Looking ahead to the first quarter, We expect other property net premiums earned to be approximately $360 million and a traditional loss ratio in the mid-50s. In casualty and specialty, net premiums earned of around $1.4 billion and adjusted combined ratio in the high 90s, absent the impact of large losses. Moving now to our second driver of profit, fee income, and our capital partners business. Fees were $329 million for the year, up from 2024. Within this, management fees were $207 million and performance fees were $121 million. This performance is particularly impressive given that the California wildfires suppressed fees in the first quarter. We fully recovered from this event in the first half of the year and performance fees have surpassed our expectations for the last three quarters due to strong underwriting results and favorable prior year development. Capital partners produced excellent results throughout 2025. and continued strong engagement from our third-party investors, and fees should remain a key driver of our financial success. Looking ahead to the first quarter, we expect management fees to be around $50 million and performance fees to return to around $30 million, absent the impact of large catastrophe losses or favorable development. Moving now to our third driver of profit, investments, where our retained net investment income for the year was $1.2 billion, up 4%. We increased retained net investment income every quarter, starting at $279 million in the first quarter and rising to $314 million in the fourth quarter. This outcome is primarily the result of net growth in underlying assets, as well as proactive actions to selectively add credit throughout the year. This included increasing exposure to investment-grade credit, agency mortgage-backed securities, and high yield. Additionally, we had retained mark-to-market gains of $1.1 billion driven by gains from equities, interest rate movements in our fixed maturity portfolio, and commodities, mainly gold. As we have previously discussed, we took a position in gold at the end of 23, which we added over the last two years as an inflationary and geopolitical hedge. Since we made the investment, gold has doubled in price and led to over $400 million in retained mark-to-market gains this year. Our retained yield to maturity of 4.8 percent reduced from 5.3 percent in December of 2024 due to falling short-term yields, and our retained duration decreased from 3.4 to three years. This was primarily related to our decision to reduce duration at the long end of the curve while increasing exposure to securities with a three- to five-year duration. Looking ahead, we expect investment income to remain a persistent and meaningful contributor to our results and anticipate retained net investment income around similar levels in the first quarter. Now moving to some comments on tax. 2025 was the first year we incurred a 15% corporate income tax in Bermuda, and we demonstrated our ability to continue producing excellent returns in a higher tax environment. As a reminder, our overall effective tax rate on our GAAP net income is often lower than this, 15%. This is related to non-controlling interest, which is subject to a minimal amount of income tax. You'll see this in the rate reconciliation, or 10K, when it's filed. In the fourth quarter, the Bermuda government introduced substance-based tax credits designed to encourage investment in Bermuda. There are two main components of the credit, compensation-related and expense-related. The credits will be phased over time, scaling from 50 percent of the benefit in 2025, increasing to 100 percent in 2027. We have a significant presence on the island, and the credits provide a positive tailwind to our results, acting as an offset to certain operating and corporate expenses. Due to the timing of the legislation, we recognize all the 2025 credits in the fourth quarter. They were applied at the phase-in rate of 50 percent, and you can see the benefit to our expense ratios. Specifically, the credits reduced our annual operating expense ratio by about 60 basis points and our annual corporate expenses by about 15%. Starting in 2026, we will recognize the credits on a quarterly basis at 75% of their value and then their full value in 2027. We also recognized about $70 million in cash benefit from our Bermuda deferred tax asset in 2025. This is in addition to the tax credits I outlined above. Next, moving to expenses, where our operating expense ratio for the year was 4.7% down slightly from last year. This reduction is largely driven by the substance-based tax credits I just discussed and partially offset by continued investment in our business and the year-end bonus accruals. Looking ahead, we expect our operating expense ratio to average between 5% and 5.5% as we continue to invest in the business. In conclusion, we delivered strong results in the fourth quarter and throughout 2025, driven by meaningful contributions from all three drivers of profit and disciplined capital management. As we look forward, our three drivers are positioned to produce similarly strong results in 2026 for the benefit of our shareholders. And with that, I'll turn the call over to David.

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. As Kevin and Bob both explained, We have maintained profitability throughout a wide range of market conditions because of the diversification across our three drivers of profit. Strong underwriting underpins the stability of our earnings because each of our three drivers of profit are ultimately fueled by our portfolio. I'm proud of the underwriting portfolio's contribution to our financial results in 2025 and equally proud of our execution at the recent renewals, which will support sustainability of strong returns going forward. I will expand on both topics, beginning with our 2025 performance and how superior underwriting supported strong results across each driver. Starting with underwriting income, during 2025, we shaped our already attractive portfolio to make it even better, growing property cap, holding our profitable positions in other property, specialty, and credit, and reducing in the casualty lines that were most exposed to high levels of claims inflation. As a result, in 2025, our underwriting portfolio generated $1.3 billion in income with solid current year performance despite several large property and specialty events. Prior year performance was highly favorable, reflecting the strength of our historical underwriting decisions and a disciplined reserving approach. With respect to fee income, we deployed efficient partner capital in both property and casualty and specialty. This enabled us to trade broadly across programs with large capacity, while also resulting in $329 million of fee income for the year. With respect to investment income, our underwriting portfolio has generated a $22 billion diversified pool of reserves. These reserves are our primary source of flow, which gives us meaningful investment leverage and results in substantial, sustainable net investment income for our shareholders. Both segments contributed significantly to our overall return on equity through these three drivers of profit. property contributed primarily to underwriting and fee income, and casualty and specialty contributed primarily to investment and fee income. This was by design, and as our results demonstrate, it was a highly profitable way to construct our portfolio in this market. Moving on to the January 1, 2026 renewal. As an underwriting team, we have two primary goals at each renewal. First, deliver our market-leading value proposition to clients and brokers. This ensures a sustainable pipeline of renewable business, first-call status, and favorable signings, which are resilient to competition. Second, construct the optimal underwriting portfolio across business segments to feed each of our drivers of profit and generate capital-efficient, risk-adjusted returns in any given year and over the cycle. I believe we achieved both objectives at January 1st. Competition follows favorable reinsurance results, and we saw increased supply of reinsurance capacity with pressure on rates and margins. We were starting from a strong position, however, and remained confident in rate adequacy across the portfolio. As I mentioned last quarter, this is not a market where all risks are equally attractive or equally accessible. We succeeded in building a differentiated portfolio by deploying our underwriting expertise to select the most attractive risks and our broad client relationships to achieve the most attractive signings. We took a deal by deal and client by client approach trading our participation on programs holistically across lines and geographies. This resulted in us securing our desired lines when many others were signed down due to competition. It also facilitated targeted reductions in some cases without impacting the lines we wanted to maintain. I'll now walk through our actions at the January 1 renewal in more detail by segment, starting with property. Our goal in property catastrophe was to maintain our existing portfolio and deploy additional capacity into attractive opportunities. Reinsurance supply was up following several years of strong results. This additional supply resulted in increased rate pressure globally, with rates down on average in the low teens for our portfolio. Retentions in terms and conditions remain consistent with recent strong levels. We successfully renewed our existing line and deployed new limit selectively across our owned and managed balance sheets. Overall, we expect to see a reduction in gross premiums written in Q1 due to rate decreases. which will be partially offset by growth from new demand. Modeled margin in the property catastrophe book remains well above the cost of capital. And as we described last quarter, there are several mitigants to the effect of rate decreases on our net retained business. First, we shape our portfolio with seeded reinsurance, which improves our net result. Seeded rates were down high teens across our portfolio. In addition, we renewed a series of our Mona Lisa cat bond at a larger size, with spread tightening by more than 50% on a risk-adjusted basis. And finally, we share a significant part of our portfolio with Capital Partner Vehicles, which produces fee income which is less sensitive to rate movement. This strategy has resulted in an average underwriting margin of over 50% over the last three years, and we remain confident in our ability to continue producing strong returns on our property cat book. In other property, our goal was to optimize the book to reduce peak exposure and maintain attractive margins. Following several years of profitable results and favorable claims trends, we are experiencing rate pressure. Terms and conditions, such as deductibles and policy sublimits, remain strong. At the January 1st renewal, we maintained our positions across other property, but reduced exposure in areas with the most rate pressure and managed net profitability through improved seeded purchases. Shifting now to our casualty and specialty book. In casualty, we aimed to fine-tune our positions to continue to manage exposure to areas most at risk of continued loss inflation. After reducing exposure significantly in 2025, our approach at the January 1 renewal was lighter tide. We turned back on programs where we saw below-average results while continuing to benefit from rate increases across the book. Over the last 18 months, clients have been keeping up with trend and general liability by increasing rates. Many clients are further differentiating themselves through investments in claims handling. These improvements will take time to be reflected in results, but we'd like the progress that is being made. We measure the success of our casualty business over a 10-year period and believe we have made the right underwriting decisions for this point in the cycle. Maintaining our casualty positions on the best panels gives us options to benefit from improved underwriting margins as the market strengthens, while still allowing us to earn a strong return from the float in the interim. For every dollar of casualty business we write, we benefit from more than 20 cents of investment income. This is the best way to construct our portfolio in this market and makes our casualty portfolio highly accretive to book value over both the short and long term. And finally, in specialty and credit, our goal was to hold our positions in profitable lines and shift the balance towards the highest margin classes. In specialty, we have a strong leadership position across lines, and we're successful in achieving positive differential terms in several placements. Our ability to trade with clients across classes of property, casualty, and specialty enabled us to successfully maintain lines despite competition, and we increased diversification by geography and line of business. In credit at this renewal, we maintained our shares on profitable business and selectively grew into opportunities across the portfolio. We expect profitability to remain strong. We purchased a significant amount of seeded reinsurance in the casualty and specialty business and found attractive opportunities at 1-1 to increase our protection. Putting this all together, gross premiums in our casualty and specialty portfolio are likely to be down in 2026 compared to 2025. Net premiums will be down more than gross given increased seeded purchasing. Underwriting margins remain tight in this segment. We continue to expect an adjusted combined ratio in the high 90s. As I described earlier, however, we are confident we have effectively balanced tradeoffs between underwriting margin and investment income, driving healthy returns for shareholders. In closing, We entered 2026 with deep client relationships and an underwriting portfolio built to optimally support our three drivers of profit, all of which position us to continue delivering superior shareholder returns this year and over the long term. And with that, I'll turn it back to Kevin.

speaker
Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, David. To close our prepared comments, our performance in 2025 gives me great confidence in the future. We anticipate that each of our three drivers of profit will remain robust sources of income in 2026. More importantly, we have the strongest team in the industry, and I couldn't imagine a company better positioned to succeed in any and all market environments. As a result, we expect to continue to deliver outstanding shareholder value over the course of the year. Thanks, and with that, I'll turn it back to you to take the questions.

speaker
Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press Star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you wish to remove yourself from the queue, you may do so by pressing star 2. We remind you to please unmute your line when introduced, and if possible, pick up your handset for optimal sound quality. In the interest of time, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. We will now take our first question from Elise Greenspan with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Elise Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Hi, thanks. Good morning. My first question is on PropertyCat. You guys said that you expected, I think, premiums to be down mid-single digits, right, because, you know, due to some changes, right, that's obviously better than the price decline you saw. I just want to confirm, is that – that's a view for – all of 26? And then if that is the case, I guess, what are you assuming within that guide happens for pricing during the other renewal seasons of the year?

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Elise. Yeah, that is our expectation for the year. If you look at the supply-demand dynamics at 1-1, we expect them to persist. So we anticipate that there'll be continued rate reductions going into the mid-year renewals. That said, if we look at, I think there's a lot of focus on rate change. If we look at rate adequacy, It's a bit of a different story. There's very strong rate adequacy in the mid-year renewals. A lot of those are U.S.-focused, and many were affected by the wildfires. So we go into that renewal at the same risk-adjusted reduction. So if top-line reductions are a little less, I think the rating environment, or a little bit more, excuse me, the robustness of the rate adequacy should serve to produce results similar to what we got at 1.1.

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Elise Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thanks. And then I guess my second question, I guess, is just, I guess, a number question for Bob. You got it to an expense ratio, I think, in the range of 5 to 5.5, right? I think it was 4, 7, and 25. Is that including the benefit of the Bermuda tax credits, which I know, you know, go up, right, you'll see, you know, the 75 percent in 26? Because I know you said your investment's in the business, or is it before or after? I just want to make sure I'm understanding the numbers correctly.

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

That would be after. Yeah, that would be after giving effect to all things that we understand in 2026 that we'll be investing in and other dynamics. But, again, I'll point out it's still an incredibly low expense ratio.

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Elise Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

But then what are, I guess, is it just like talent and underwriting, I guess? What are the things that you guys are investing in that I guess that is taking them up, taking that ratio up a little bit even with, you know, even with the tax credit benefit?

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. That's a good question. You know, we've got Validus. We brought them on board in 2024. And as we talked about the integration of it, each year we layer on another $11 to $12 billion of premiums. Each year brings more operational complexity, and we continue to invest in that. We have to scale. We've gone through a lot of work internally to be able to process that, but that takes people as we get to scale. But again, we are managing that as efficiently as we can. It comes in through new systems, better efficiency on technology, but we'll continue to manage that. I give you a range. We'll probably be at the low end of that range.

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Elise Greenspan
Analyst, Wells Fargo

Thank you.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Josh Shanker with Bank of America. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Josh Shanker
Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah, I'm going to ask two questions. I'm going to start with the oddball because it's so interesting. Let's talk about gold. Can you talk about how that appears on your balance sheet, whether the $400 million gain is in the book value? And two, let's just say the political situation on planet Earth doesn't change. Do you care whether gold is $5,000 an ounce or $10,000 an ounce? Are you going to hold it until political circumstances change?

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

I'll take the second part of your question first, and Bob can answer the accounting question. We put the gold position on in 2024. 23, sorry, in 23, as we looked at the world and saw, you know, different risks emerging, and we think about the enterprise risk that we have to manage, and we thought it was a good hedge against the under-earning portfolio and a good hedge against some of the interest rate risk in the investment portfolio. It continues to serve as a hedge in the portfolio. So whether it's at $4,000 or $5,000, it's something that that we're constantly looking at, but we don't have a price target to say that it's an investment and we're exiting at this point. We continue to monitor it actively against the enterprise risk we're managing.

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Michael Heaney Josh, on the second question, it represents, because these are futures contracts, it's the unrealized gain on the mark-to-market. We have a modest margin up against it, and it doesn't really draw a lot of capital.

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Josh Shanker
Analyst, Bank of America

Michael Heaney Okay. And then, on the question of capital, You know, there's a lot of companies give us PMLs and things, and Rennery does not. It's part of the secret sauce. But can you talk about, in any way that we can think of, how much more aggregate you want to put to work in property risk in 2026, or whether it's going to be a similar year, 2025, and the money you make basically can be returned to shareholders?

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. We normally talk more about this at the next call. But our plan is we put together the pro forma for where we're going to structure the business. On a net basis, I would say we'll probably hold risk relatively flat for the hurricane, southeast hurricane, which is still our dominant peak. That could change if we see more opportunities or, you know, better than expected pricing going into the summer renewals. But at this point, I would say our risk will be on a net basis relatively stable. as far as our plan at this point, but that could change.

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Josh Shanker
Analyst, Bank of America

Perfect answers. Thank you.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Yaron Kinnar with Misuho. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Yaron Kinnar
Analyst, Mizuho

Thank you. Good morning. I just want to go back to the property CAT market. Given the declines that we saw in rates in 1-1 renewals, and I think there's some expectation of further declines in 4-1-6-1, how are you thinking of expected returns and rate adequacy in that book in 2026? And how are you looking to deploy capacity into that market? What areas would be more or less interesting compared to 2025?

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Yeah, hi, this is David. I can take that one. I think, you know, first of all, like we said, we did see pressure, but we were starting from a very good spot. So rate adequacy is still strong. I can break that down a little bit more for you. And the low change that we saw in the overall cap book, that is a bit separate. The U.S. cap book that renews in Q1 at 1.1 is about a third of the U.S. cap book. That was down about 10%. whereas the international and global's portfolio was down about 15%. So part of what we're faced with is not all risks are the same. Both of those risks are attractive in their own ways. But rating level is still high. We also see really strong terms and conditions consistent with the last three years. So it's not as much about how will we react to rate decreases. We have a strong level of adequacy, access to all the business, and a lot of options to construct a portfolio. We do see growing demand on the U.S. side. There was a Senate 1-1, and we expect more in Q2. So that will present opportunities. But our approach is to select the best opportunities, make sure we get the best signings, and construct an attractive portfolio.

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Yaron Kinnar
Analyst, Mizuho

Okay. And then my second question, on recent calls, we've heard brokers talk a lot about the large opportunity for data centers in the insurance market. And I'd imagine that while a lot of that would fall into the reinsurance market, you know, as underwriters in an attempt to be prudent would look to manage their exposures. I guess I'd be curious to hear how you as a reinsurer that has both a traditional balance sheet and a large JV business, how you think about that opportunity and how you'd go about managing that risk.

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Yeah, as David again, I'll continue to take that. So, first of all, data centers are something that we currently reinsure. What's the new opportunity is the fact that there are more megaprojects, which do require health reinsurance capacity or third-party capacity. So it is early stages of a positive opportunity, and we're working with our clients and brokers to understand the risk as well as we can and how we deploy capacity. Our focus first is to get the underwriting and pricing right and get terms and conditions and coverage right. and also get the aggregation right. So we're well along the path there, and we think it'll continue to be an opportunity as it grows as a market.

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Yaron Kinnar
Analyst, Mizuho

Thank you.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. We will move next with Meyer Shields with KBW. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Meyer Shields
Analyst, KBW

Thanks so much. So I'm inferring from the high 90s expected combined ratio in casualty and specialty that you're not anticipating much of a change in reserve philosophy for casualty lines. And I'm wondering if you look at the older accident years that are close to being settled, is helping you to talk about how reserves for those accident years have played out where conservative reserving is just less relevant.

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think, you know, overall, I think we're trying to be as transparent as we can on, you know, kind of the casualty specialty segment. and specifically GL. The book, the casualty specialty looks great. We've had favorable development last year, but, you know, the overall reserve pool for casualty specialty, I think of it as, you know, the old story of a duck. It's relatively stable on top, but there's a lot of pieces moving around down below. It's moving by year, and it's moving by line of business. And we continue to be extremely cautious in thinking about how to reflect, particularly in GL, the increased pricing that's coming through or pricing actuaries are putting it through on the pricing. But from a reserving perspective, we're being cautious and continuing to not reflect that at this point. So from the overall portfolio, it's behaving well. With regard to the years, most of the years that are older seem to be settling down. And much of those older years still have the protections with regard to the protections that were part of the acquisitions of both Validus and Platinum. So they're less relevant for us than they are for some others.

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Meyer Shields
Analyst, KBW

Okay, that makes perfect sense. And if we move in a slightly different direction, one of the, I guess, chatter points for the 1-1 renewals was the increased inclusion of riot and civil commotion coverage. And I was hoping you could talk about whether your exposure to that specific risk is materially different than in 2025.

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Hi, Myra. This is David. There's no real change in our exposure there. It's a peril which is a covered in a very specific way with tight terms and conditions. So while the risk is in there, at the levels we attach at, you know, the retentions keep us insulated from a lot of attritional loss, and there's really no change into 2026. All right.

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Meyer Shields
Analyst, KBW

Fantastic. Thank you so much.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. We will move next with Mike Ceremski with BMO. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Mike Ceremski
Analyst, BMO

Hey, thanks. Bob, back to the tax credits and all the tax legislation. I think clear about 26, the expense ratio net of the credits. I guess we'll just have to see how the tax credits go up in 27. So I guess we'll have to decide if we want to also kind of re-spend some of the credits as an investment. Uh, unless you want to comment and, uh, the DTA is, is there clarity on, on, on how that's going to play out or write down? I know it was a benefit this quarter. Thanks.

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

That was a good question. I'll, I'll tackle them both on the DTA. I'll start with that one. That's a legislative legislation here by Bermuda. So it's a matter of law. We use it this year to defer our tax liability, and we fully intend to use it in 2026 to defer the liability. The only way that changes is if the law changes, and I don't control that. I haven't been in any conversation about it, so we're still moving forward on it. With respect to the credit, I kind of led in my prepared comments that it was 60 basis points on the annualized operating expense. It goes up to 75% next quarter, so it means it goes up to around 90 all things constant, as my economics teacher used to say, and then it goes to the full impact in 2027. We don't intend to spend that specifically as a part that comes in on the back of our spend. It does reduce our net spend. But I stick by what I was talking about with Elise was the, you know, we're investing in our infrastructure technology to be able to operate at scale.

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Mike Ceremski
Analyst, BMO

Okay, great. And maybe pivoting back to the casualty specialty segments and specifically on casualty, I know you've given us some good commentary so far. If we, you know, let's say if we use the Marsh pricing gauge, you know, excess casualty rates, which Bermuda writes a lot of, you're seeing pricing kind of accelerate up into the close to 20% range. I know Ren has taken, you guys have taken a lot of, you know, positive reserving actions to put in conservatism. But curious, is there something brewing for the industry that, you know, causing rate to accelerate so much in excess casualty? Thanks.

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Hey, this is David. So you're right to point out that the excess casualty, the high layers that are written by the Bermuda insurance market, some of which are our clients, although we service the whole casualty portfolio, that is accelerating more than the lower layers. And that's just the effect of what the market's been doing for the last 18 months or so. where casualty rates for all excess casualty has accelerated as a response to accelerating loss trend. At the higher layers, the market is taking more rate than at the lower and the mid layers. But that's what's going on there. There's nothing unique about those layers. What we're seeing overall is it's not just the rate acceleration, but it's also the investment in the claims handling. That helps all open claims, not just the new underwriting years. So really encouraged by the signs, but it's going to take time for that to come through the numbers. Thanks.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ryan Tunis with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Ryan Tunis
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald

Hey, thanks. Good afternoon. First question, just looking at the trajectory of fee income, in particular management fee income, I would think that that would move with, you know, the growth in the partner capital, but, you know, that was down in 2025, and it sounded like Bob's guidance was for that to kind of be flat in 26. Could you just kind of walk us through, I guess, why we're not seeing growth on that line?

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Brian, specifically, my guidance was the first quarter. It was at 59. First quarter. Right, yeah.

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Ryan Tunis
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald

But that's down from the fourth quarter end.

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

It's around the same. There was a lot of noise in 2025. But the guidance that I was trying to give you was it's $50 million in the first quarter. And you're right. If we grow the assets significantly, the fees will follow. Performance fees are a different measure based on the volatility that can happen in the earnings stream in each of the JVs.

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

If it's helpful, the joint ventures are all – none of them are smaller going into 26 than where they were in 25 – and we haven't changed the fee structure on any of the vehicles that we're managing. So just as a starting point, there'll be ups and downs as new capital comes on board or there'll be changes in the existing capital, but it's relatively stable from last year to this year.

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Ryan Tunis
Analyst, Cantor Fitzgerald

Hopefully. A follow-up probably for David and Bob, but on the other property side, Curious, you know, at 1.1, you know, what you're seeing from a demand perspective, clearly a lot of seedings have had really strong accident years in 24, 25. Are you seeing them buy down or, you know, what are the trends there? And then I guess separately, given the competitive environment and property, I was a little bit surprised that the other property, the margin guidance is still for mid-50s. I guess just walk me through your confidence in that.

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Hey Ryan, this is David. I'll start with your question on retentions in terms of conditions. So your terms and conditions across other property and CAAT remain strong and a big piece of that is retention. So the other property CAAT exposed structures or risks have had a step change after 2022. Those remain at strong levels. There's competition on price, and we're able to move around that portfolio to make sure that we're getting the best return on the risk that we put out. But we're really comfortable with the way the terms and conditions have held strong there. And on the cap side also, clients elected generally not to buy down their attentions. As they save money on their cap towers, they didn't spend it on cover below.

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Ryan, on the mid-50s, that was our guidance for the other property book. And that's kind of a mixed issue that you have between the attritional versus the cat-exposed, non-cat-exposed. But we view that as a strong current accident-year loss ratio. It's a little elevated this year, obviously, because of the events that came through. But that's what we're steering is the mid-50s.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. We'll move next with Matthew Heimerman with Citi. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Matthew Heimerman
Analyst, Citi

Hi. Good morning slash afternoon. I guess just a couple, one, Kevin, following up on your comment on casually with technical ratios eventually decreasing, I'm curious if you think that will have more to do with a change in loss trend turning out to be better than you think or rates going up?

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think right now our pricing actuaries are reflecting the benefit of the price change. So if all works out well, I would hope our reserving ratios trend to the pricing ratios. So I would say it's more of a reflection of the benefit of price having persistence and us increasing our confidence in that. I would love to say that I see the trend decreasing over time. I think we will certainly monitor that. Any change in trend will reflect over time, whether it's going up or going down. But I would say more likely price.

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Matthew Heimerman
Analyst, Citi

Thank you for that. I was curious, I mean, happy to listen if there are more details you want to share on some of the investments you're making around the platform and embedding that in underwriting systems. But I also am curious whether or not, from a talent perspective, being in Bermuda, there's any limitations in terms of the speed with which you can execute your technology roadmap.

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So with regard to, you know, our thinking about how to manage our risk, this isn't the first time we've used the capital markets to think about hedging risk in our underwriting portfolio or in our investment portfolio, obviously. With regard to talent, we have a global platform. You know, our investment team is split between New York, Bermuda, and Dublin. So we've got, you know, kind of good coverage there, good access to talent. And almost all of the The groups that we have within the company are split across multiple platforms, so I don't see any constraint with our ability to access talent. And with the technology that we have for collaboration, we can easily link teams in any location, so we have access to the best talent, I believe, anywhere in the world.

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Matthew Heimerman
Analyst, Citi

And just any call-out on the types of add-ons or enhancements you're making to the underwriting? And I wasn't sure if you met REMS specifically or other platforms.

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, we are enhancing our REMS program, which is the underwriting platform. We're probably a year, year and a half into the actual technology rebuild. And that really is a shift in a couple kind of material ways. As we've diversified, we want to make sure that our system is not as much of a deal system but more of a client system, so it's easier for us to look at profitability for a client and understand how to engage with a client to best bring our capacity to their problems. And then secondly, we're updating our architecture so that as AI becomes – more meaningful in either automation or augmentation of our processes. We will have the infrastructure to plug it in much more seamlessly than what we currently have. So we think these investments put us in a very strong competitive position to continue to adopt the best technology as it becomes proven.

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Matthew Heimerman
Analyst, Citi

Appreciate it. Thanks.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Dean Crisitello with Wolf Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Dean Crisitello
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Hi. I was hoping if you could talk about how seating commissions in your casualty book trended during January 1 renewals.

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Yeah, absolutely. So seating commissions and casualty were pretty flat overall. Most of the improvements that are coming in the market are on the insurance side with insurance rate going up and insurers investing in claims handling to better be able to fight the plaintiffs bar. But the transfer to reinsurance and the reinsurance supply demand was pretty stable. The best accounts might have gotten a tick up. The worst accounts got a tick down. But that's pretty much the case across casualty and professional lines.

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Dean Crisitello
Analyst, Wolfe Research

Got it. And then within the casualty and specialty segment, you guys have been growing a lot within the credit line. So I was wondering what kind of impact that would have on the underlying losses and maybe the expense ratio going forward.

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Yes, we did see some good opportunities in credit. Credit's one of the three main pillars of the book. We have casualty, specialty, and credit, with casualty being split into the general liability and professional liability. Credit has been a really profitable class. The pillars of the credit book are the mortgage business and the standard credit bond and political risk, and then some structured credit business. All of those are performing well. What we found in the last quarter, in the last year, was we found opportunities in the structured credit business and in the mortgage business. Both of those are high profit margin and good opportunities for us to add to the portfolio.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. We will move next with Peter Kadutsin with Evercore. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Peter Kadutsin
Analyst, Evercore

Hey, thanks for squeezing me in. In the prepared remarks, you noted prioritizing casualty sedans who focus on claims handling practices. I think going back to 2024, you had made a couple of comments around making a larger effort to work more closely with casualty sedans to sort of ramp up information flow at renewals. So now at 1-1-26, can you maybe talk a little bit about how this renewal period was different and how it's evolved in that regard, if at all? Would you say there's a material difference in what's being collected now versus 1-1-23 before you guys were calling that out, for example?

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David Marra
Executive Vice President and Group Chief Underwriting Officer

Yes, it's been two strong renewals since we started that, and we've been working collaboratively with clients. We get materially better information than we got previously. And that information is not only geared towards understanding claims trends, but also geared towards how do we then understand their overall business approach and has led a lot into claims conversations. So we can then use that in our underwriting to make sure we're picking the best risks and avoiding those that are worse. It's been a very positive process and collaborative with the clients. One of the things that we've noticed overall on the claims side is there is – The trend is not, the plaintiff's bar is not let up in how they're approaching trying to get big settlements. But the insurance carriers have gotten much more proactive. And from the top down, there's a lot of awareness of how they can invest, how they can use data, how they can collaborate across the tower. And so it's not always the quantitative things we get from that process, but it's those qualitative things which we're confident will have a strong impact over time.

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Peter Kadutsin
Analyst, Evercore

Okay, great. Thanks so much for that. And then just a quick one for me on the casualty favorable X to P-gap adjustment. I know it was minor, but I was just wondering if, and maybe I missed it, I'm sorry, but if you could talk about the drivers, the puts and takes on that.

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Bob Qutub
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

On the casualty, I talked about the favorable development on the cash basis. The purchase accounting layers in around somewhere around $8 million on top of it, so that kind of pushes it around. That's what I was trying to point out, that We have been favorable at the top of the house for that segment this year.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. We will move next with Rob Cox with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

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Rob Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, thanks. I just wanted to follow up on the artificial intelligence technology discussion from earlier. I think a lot of the programs that we hear in insurance, there's an automation efficiency component that often results in lower employee costs, and the reinsurance businesses tend to have lower employee costs and non-compensation operating costs relative to other insurance businesses. So I'm just hoping for some color on how that dynamic informs your plans to use AI and how we should be thinking about potential benefits.

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think your observation is consistent with ours. You know, I'd say from the top of the house, many companies are looking at, you know, trying to measure ROI. The way to measure that is with automation and efficiency and then I think a lot of the improvements certainly what we're seeing in how we're thinking about our processes and our and our analysis augmentation coming from the bottom up so our focus really is becoming a stronger better underwriter if we become and those two coming at a point where if we like in one example with we have some work that we've done with AI and in some of our investment analysis where we're taking, I'll make the numbers up, 10 hours of analysis and doing it in one. Well, that allows for better judgment to be applied to stronger data. So one could argue that, yeah, we've increased efficiency, but it really is to augment our decision-making process. So I would say I don't anticipate that AI is going to materially improve us as a company through efficiency and automation as much as it will over time through augmentation of our judgment.

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Rob Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, that's very helpful. And I just wanted to follow up on property cap pricing. You know, you guys laid out the supply-demand dynamic that's out there right now. I'm curious if we model forward sort of a normal year of weather catastrophe losses in 2026, you know, how would you expect property cap pricing to change, you know, next year in 1-1 renewals in 2027? I realize that's, you know, pretty far out there, but curious your thoughts.

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I would, you know, markets tend to move in curves, so if it's going one direction, I think Our planning will be that the direction will continue, but it's way too early for us to think about building our 27 pro forma. You know, our portfolios have been constructed with our best judgment and reflect where we'll think we'll be on October 1st, so sort of the heat of win season. Where it goes from there, I think there's a lot of things that can shift. You know, interest rates can change, geopolitical situations can change materially, and then certainly losses can change. I think of it as in curves, so it's going in a direction I generally think it will continue, but it's not something that we have a strong view on at this point.

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Rob Cox
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Thank you.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. I will now turn the floor back over to Kevin O'Donnell for any additional or closing remarks.

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Kevin O'Donnell
President and Chief Executive Officer

So we're proud of the performance we achieved in 25 and eagerly working to build the best portfolio and maximize returns in 2026. I want to thank you for your attention and your questions today.

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Nikki
Conference Operator

Thank you. This concludes the Renaissance Re fourth quarter and full year-end 2025 earnings call-in webcast. Please disconnect your line at this time and have a great day.

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