Boston Beer Company, Inc.

Q3 2021 Earnings Conference Call

10/22/2021

spk04: Greetings and welcome to the Boston Beer Company third quarter 2021 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in the listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to our host, Mike Andrews,
spk11: associate general counsel and corporate secretary thank you you may begin thank you good afternoon and welcome this is mike andrews associate general counsel and corporate secretary of the boston beer company i'm pleased to kick off the 2021 third quarter earnings call for the boston beer company joining the call from boston beer are jim cook founder and chairman dave berwick our ceo and frank small our cfo before we discuss our business i'll start with our disclaimer As we state in our earnings release, some of the information we discuss, and that may come up on this call, reflect the company's or management's expectations or predictions of the future. Such predictions are forward-looking statements. It's important to note that the company's actual results could differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements is contained in the company's most recent 10Q and 10K. The company does not undertake to publicly update the forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise. I will now pass it over to Jim for some introductory comments.
spk09: Thanks, Mike. Our intent today is to provide some additional context around our third quarter earnings, discuss our views on trends we see driving results at Boston Beer and in our industry, and talk about how we see performance going forward. After I discuss a few highlights from the third quarter, I'll hand it over to Dave, who will provide an overview of our business. Frank will then provide details of the third quarter financial results and how these results have been impacted by slower than anticipated hard seltzer growth, as well as our outlook for the remainder of 2021 and 2022. Then I will share with you our longer-term view of the business. Finally, we'll open the lineup for questions. I'll begin with some context. In measured off-premise channels year to date through October 10th, where our brand portfolio represents only 4.4 of the total industry volume, we've delivered more than 41% of the total industry volume growth, the highest by far of all brewers. Four of our five major brands are growing depletions and gaining share in off-premise measured channels over the last 13 weeks. We have a broad portfolio of healthy brands, which we will further build in 2022 to continue driving our growth. Our success has been recognized by our most important customers, our distributors, who recently voted us the top beer supplier in 2021 in the latest Tamron survey. This is the 10th time in the last 12 years that our most important customers have recognized us as the top supplier in our industry. We are thankful to our outstanding coworkers, distributors, and retailers whose continued support is helping grow our business to achieve our 14th consecutive quarter of double digit growth. But despite these ongoing strengths, we experienced very large unanticipated costs as a result of the sudden unexpected slowing of growth in Hart-Seltzer. Based on our growth projections, we moved aggressively to build inventory to try to avoid the out of stocks that we experienced in 2019 and in 2020. and to secure capacity both short-term and long-term to be ready for growth through 2023. Dave will share our perspective on the decisions that led to these unanticipated costs, and Frank will share a fuller accounting of them. I'll now pass it over to Dave for a more detailed overview of our business.
spk02: Hey, thanks, Jim. Good afternoon, everybody. Let me start by addressing where we are strategically how we're viewing the future of the hard seltzer category, and how we plan to grow our portfolio going forward, even without high double-digit hard seltzer category growth. There's no question that hard seltzers have generated tremendous growth for the beer category over the last five years and will remain a very important beer industry segment in the future. Hard seltzers are 11 percent of total beer dollars year-to-date, up from 9 percent during the same period in 2020. Consumer metrics remain favorable. Social media sentiment continues to trend positively, and household penetration, frequency, and buy rate all are increasing over the past 13 weeks. Boeing growth has slowed this year, but we continue to believe that hard seltzers can reach 15 to 20% of total beer dollars in the next five years. We believe the ability to create alcoholic beverages from a beer base with the range and variety of flavors previously only available to mixed drinks, coupled with the convenience and portability of beer and beer's tax and distribution levels, will be a platform for long-term growth for Boston beer. We've been playing to win, and we've reaped many benefits. So far this year, Truly has achieved the second highest household penetration in all of beer, behind only Bud Light beer, and ahead of all its other hard seltzer and beer industry competitors. Truly has generated 54% of all hard seltzer category growth so far in 2021, 2.3 times the next highest brand. We've gained 23 share points against the category leader since January 2020. We've led the category in innovation and brand building and have outgrown the category for 13 straight months. We also believe that Trulia is blazing its own path and not following the category like so many other entries. Thus, we believe we are well positioned to succeed in the future when it will be much harder for new entrants to gain share. We've created a billion dollar brand in only five years, and we're confident we'll continue to grow it going forward. Slowing hard seltzer category growth has certainly impacted our business. Earlier in the year, we had expected the category to grow at over 70% and Trulie to gain share. The Trulie brand did gain share, but the category did not grow as we had expected. Now we expect Trulie, thanks to its share gains, to finish the year up between 20 and 25% in volume. Because of our higher demand projections earlier in the year and our commitment to avoid the out of stocks that we experienced during the summers of 2019 and 2020, We added significant capacity and pre-built inventories of cans and finished goods to levels that ended up exceeding actual needs as the category slowed down. As a result, we are currently faced with significant temporary costs as we adjust to the new category trends. These cost impacts are reflected in our third quarter financials. Building our capacity and inventory levels was an essential part of playing to win. In that strategic context, we believe the risk of undersupply was bigger than that of oversupply. So we resourced against a high-growth scenario, securing supply-constrained materials and capacity to gain market share in a highly competitive and fast-growing category. Having said this, we've updated and evolved our own category growth model and believe the category could be flat to plus 10% growth in our most likely 2022 scenarios. Clarity will probably not increase until we start to lap June and July 2021, when the categories started to decelerate rapidly, especially in the two-year volume stack, which we look at closely. Regardless of which scenarios prove most accurate, we fully intend to extend our streak of outgrowing the category throughout the year, driven by innovation, continued brand building, and superior retail execution and distributor support. As Jim mentioned, we have a balanced portfolio of healthy, well-positioned brands. As we look towards 2022 and beyond, our aim is to continue double-digit depletions growth on the foundation of this portfolio, especially as consumers drink more Beyond Beer products. We are the number two player in Beyond Beer with a 26% share, driven by the number one FMB in Twisted Tea, the strong number two, Hard Seltzer and Truly, and the number one, Hard Cider and Angry Orchard. Twisted Tea has overcome this past summer's supply chain issues and out of stocks and has grown 22% in the last 13 weeks in measured off-premise channels. Twisted Tea is the second fastest growing brand year to date among the top 25 in beer, while Truly remains number one in percentage and absolute volume growth. We will have industry-leading innovation again with Truly, starting with a holiday party pack next month and followed by the January 2022 launch of Truly Margarita Style, which has received a terrific response in initial discussions with our distributor partners and retailers. As Twisted Tea expands its consumer base, we're launching a new Twisted Tea Lite with only 109 calories. But our innovations go beyond Truly and Twisted Tea. For 2022, We're introducing new brands, the Bevy Long Drink, Sousa Agave Cocktails, and Hard Mountain Dew. We're also expanding our lineup of award-winning Dogfish Head can cocktails with new vodka and gin crush styles. And we're launching a new tropical fruit extension for Angry Orchard in addition to adding Angry Orchard Hard Core, an 8% ABV product. Meanwhile, our Sam Adams, Your Cousin from Boston campaign is paying dividends. As Sam Adams grew double digits in the third quarter, fueled by both on-premise and off-premise gains, while also gaining share of Kraft in the off-premise. Now I'll hand it over to Frank to discuss our third quarter financials, as well as our outlook for 2021 and our initial thoughts on 2022. Thanks, Dave.
spk15: Good afternoon, everyone. Before I get into the financial review of our third quarter results and financial outlook, I'd like to provide more detail on the third quarter charges and other costs related to the hard SELSA slowdown. As Dave explained, we strategically resourced against the high side of our internal category growth and market share projections to ensure we would not be constrained in our efforts to build our share position in the hypergrowth hard SELSA category. Resourcing against our high-size scenario included adding internal and external capacity, pre-building distributor and internal inventory ahead of the peak summer season, and securing tight supply materials such as cans and flavors. This strategy enabled us to gain share in 2020 and 2021 in a supply-constrained environment. Following the rapid slowdown this summer, Actual hard seltzer category growth fell below our internal low-side projections and resulted in excess capacity and higher than planned inventory levels of input materials and finished goods. As a result, we have taken $102.4 million third-quarter charge related to direct costs of the hard seltzer slowdown, consisting of inventory obsolescence and related destruction costs of $54.3 million Contract termination costs primarily for excess third-party contract production of $35.4 million and equipment impairments of $12.7 million. In addition, the third quarter results include indirect costs resulting from the slowing hot salsa category growth of $30.6 million. These costs include negative absorption impacts at company-owned breweries and downtime charges at third-party breweries of $11.4 million, increased raw material sourcing and warehousing costs of $11.8 million, and distributor return provisions for out-of-coat or damaged products of $5.4 million, and other costs of $2 million. The negative absorption impacts are the result of shipments lagging depletions to reduce distributor inventories to target levels, and production lagging shipments to reduce internal inventory levels. With this background and the third quarter financial impact of the slowdown in hard SELSA, I will now turn to our overall third quarter results and our current outlook for full year 2021 and 2022. For the third quarter, we reported a net loss of $58.4 million, a decrease of $139.2 million from the third quarter of 2020. Lost per diluted share was $4.76, a decrease of $11.27 per diluted share from the third quarter of 2020. This decrease was due to the combined direct and indirect costs related to slowing hard sell category growth of $133 million, or $7.73 per diluted share net of the related tax benefit, and high operating expenses partially offset by increased net revenue. Depletions for the quarter increased 11% from the prior year, reflecting increases in our Twisted Tea, Truly Hot Salsa, Samuel Adams, and Dark Fish Head brands, partially offset by decreases in our Angry Orchard brand. Shipment volume for the quarter was approximately 2.3 million barrels, an 11.2% increase from the prior year, reflecting increases in our Twisted Tea, Samuel Adams, and Angry Orchard brands, partially offset by decreases in our Truly Hot Salsa and Dark Fish Head brands. We believe distributor inventory, as of September 25th, 2021, averaged approximately six weeks on hand and was at an appropriate level for each of our brands, except for Trulie, which had significantly higher than planned distributor inventory levels for certain styles and packages. To address the slowing demand and continued volatility of future volume projections for Trulie, we're working closely with our distributors to reduce Trulie distributor inventory levels. We adjusted production and shipments during the third quarter and expect to continue to do so during the remainder of the year. Our third quarter gross margin of 30.7% decreased from the 48.8% margin realized in the third quarter of 2020, primarily due to the $84.9 million direct and indirect volume adjustment costs as a result of slowing hard seltzer growth described and higher materials costs partially offset by price increases. Advertising, promotional, and selling expenses increased by $58.8 million of 54.4% from the third quarter of 2020, primarily due to increased brand investments of $37.6 million, mainly driven by higher media, production, and local marketing costs, and increased freight to distributors of $21.2 million that was primarily due to higher rates and volumes. Based on information of which we are currently aware, we are now targeting full-year 2021 earnings per diluted share between $2 and $6. However, actual results could vary significantly from this target. This projection excludes the impact of ASU 2016-09 and is highly sensitive to changes in volume projections, particularly related to the hot sales category. Full-year 2021 depletions growth is now estimated to be between 18% and 22%. We project increases in revenue per barrel of between 2 percent and 3 percent. Full year 2021 gross margins are expected to be between 40 percent and 42 percent. The gross margin impact related to the combined full year direct and indirect costs of the hot cells of slowdown is estimated at $132.6 million, of which $95.8 million have been incurred in the first nine months, and the remainder of $36.8 million are estimated to be incurred in the fourth quarter. Our full year 2021 investments in advertising, promotion, and selling expenses are expected to increase between $80 million and $100 million. This does not include any increases in freight costs for the shipment of products to our distributors. I will now turn to 2022. We're in the process of completing our 2022 plan, and we'll provide further guidance when we present our full year 2021 results. Based on information of which we are currently aware, we are using the following preliminary assumptions and targets for 2022 fiscal year, which are highly sensitive to changes in volume projections, particularly related to the hard sell category. We're targeting depletions and shipments percentage increases of between mid single digits and low double digits. We project increases in revenue per barrel of between 3 and 6%. Full year 2022 gross margins are expected to be between 45% and 48%. We plan increased investment in advertising, promotion, and selling expenses of between $10 and $30 million for the full year 2022, not including any changes in freight costs for the shipment of products to our distributors. We expected our cash balance of $86.5 million as of September 25th, 2021. along with our future operating cash flow and unused line of credit of $150 million will be sufficient to fund future cash requirements. Now, I'll hand it back to Jim for some closing remarks.
spk09: Thanks, Frank. Before we open it up for questions, I'd like to share some perspective from someone who's been at Boston Beer Company since the beginning. Remind us all, we have a tremendous track record of growth at Boston Beer Company. For the past 20 years, we've grown our revenue at over a 12% compounded annual growth rate and have increased total shareholder returns at a 20% compounded annual growth rate. That growth doesn't always come in a straight line. The numbers are a beautiful thing, but the actual results sometimes aren't pretty. But it has come over 20 years compounded because we've demonstrated the ability to consistently innovate and grow great brands in our niche, the high end of the beer and beyond category. That brings us to where we are today. Truly is the number two hard seltzer in closing the gap this year with the current category leader. Twisted Tea is number one in hard tea and now the number one F&B and is continuing to gain share The Sam Adams brand is gaining share for the first time in several years, and Angry Orchard is number one in hard cider and maintaining close to a 50% market share. We intend to grow these four brands and Dogfish Head as well in 2022 through brand building and executing at retail, the things that we've been doing for decades. We believe we have the best brewers, the best high-end brands, potential yet to be fully tapped, the best sales force, and the best innovation again for 2022. We're fixing our capacity and supply chain issues, our marketing is hitting its stride, and we have the best distributor network behind us. That's why we've been the fastest growing company in all of alcohol for the last few years. We have a company and culture that not only delivers double digit growth, but also demonstrates resilience and agility when faced with challenges. As Dave mentioned, we've been playing to win in the hard seltzer category. We will continue to play to win, to nourish our brands, to exploit their untapped growth potential, as we're seeing with our 20-plus-year-old Twisted Tea brand, and to innovate with new ones in the months ahead. We hope to put the turbulence of the hard seltzer category slow down behind us and continue to prove our ability to outgrow the beer category for many years to come. Now let's open it up for your questions.
spk04: Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we will now conduct a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate that your line is in the question queue. You may press star followed by the number two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Nick Mody with RBC Capital Markets. Please state your question.
spk06: Thanks. Good evening, everyone. Dave, I was hoping maybe you can provide some context on some of your 2022, you know, preliminary guidance that you provided, just in terms of, you know, the buckets of shelf space allocation, innovation, kind of core category growth. I know the range of the outcome for category growth is pretty wide, but maybe you could just give some context around kind of how you guys came to that conclusion.
spk02: Okay. Hey, Nick. Thanks for the call. Without getting into specifics about what we're thinking about each brand, there's a range of growth we see for each brand. We definitely expect all five of these brands to grow next year. And as Jim mentioned, we're building momentum as we head into next year. Innovation will definitely play a role. And depending on how you count innovation, it could be a third or more of the growth. But we're placing a lot of bets, as you heard, across the board, both And just investing in our brands to sustain the growth, whether it be for Twisted Tea or Sam Adams, adding line extensions where it's appropriate, certainly for Truly, Twisted Tea, Twisted Tea Light, as I mentioned, Sam Adams, Wicked Hazy is on a roll. And also, we actually have three new brands next year that were put into the marketplace with Beam Suntory, Sousa, and obviously Hard Mountain, PepsiCo, et cetera. So it's going to be a balanced approach to all those brands. By the way, we do expect, you know, Truly to grow. And as I mentioned, it's the category. We kind of came out with a lot of folks on this phone came out on the category growth on hard seltzer. And we think that, you know, we'll get growth with Truly next year as well.
spk06: And then just a final question on Truly and the marketing. You know, now that the Dua Lipa campaign has been out, you have some time under your belt. Any perspective on consumer engagement scores, brand equity scores?
spk02: Yeah, I mean, I think the thing that we look at most actually for truly is social media engagement and response. Because to be fair, we initially, several years ago, we weren't that competitive in that space. And we made a lot of progress. So our share of voice in social media is about a 50 index to the leader. Right now, however, 91% of all the comments are positive. So we're seeing a lot of positive momentum on social media. And for us right now, that's the biggest, I'd say the biggest litmus test for are we reaching the right consumer in the right way.
spk06: Excellent. Thank you. I'll pass it on.
spk02: Thanks, Nick.
spk04: Our next question comes from Eric Sorow with ECCOR.
spk05: First, a clarification. In terms of the 22 preliminary look, Is the range of scenarios that you're looking at, does that have truly growing in excess of the category or gaining shelf space? Wasn't clear on that from your previous comments. And then if you could talk a bit about shelf space more broadly. Clearly, shelf space gains have been a major driver of both your and the Hart-Seltzer category growth over the past two years. With a lot of those brands not really turning, how do you see the shelf space evolving as we get into next year? And, you know, is your guidance built on truly holding shelf space, losing shelf space, gaining overall shelf space? Any caller would be appreciated.
spk02: Okay. Great. Thanks, Eric. So as it relates first to your first question, as it relates to truly growth, We put the, our range right now is zero to 10% on the category, and we're expecting to outgrow whatever the category comes in at. So, it would be north of zero. If it's zero, it would be, you know, up, you know, north of 10 if the category is 10. So, we do expect it to outgrow the category. As it relates to shelf space, I mean, right now, if you look at it, seltzers are about, you know, about 10% of total shelf space right now, which is about a little, maybe a little south of where they should be based on the representation. We do expect, as others have stated, that the long tail, there will be some pairing of the long tail, which should enable certainly the top two brands to gain more share of shelf. Right now, we're at 24% share of shelf, truly is. Again, these are kind of rough numbers, and we do expect to grow it slightly next year, but we're not expecting our growth for truly to be contingent on growing shelf space. But we do think that the Darwinian laws will apply soon. certainly by next spring, and we will have more shelf space. But again, the growth rate that we're expecting to have goes beyond just the shelf space.
spk05: Great. I'll pass it on and get back in the queue. Thank you. Thanks, Eric.
spk02: Hey, Diego, are we still, we have more questions coming?
spk09: Diego, can you hear us?
spk02: For those who might be able to hear us, don't go anywhere. We're trying to figure out this glitch and hopefully we'll fix it quickly.
spk07: Apologies for the technical issue. Please stand by.
spk04: Our next question comes from Lauren Grande with Guggenheim. Please state your question.
spk13: Good evening, everyone. First, a photo from the previous question. You were saying, Dave, that next year the sales category will be growing 0% to 10%. And we've been seeing over the last three periods that actually that category has been declining. So what gives you some comfort that the category will grow again? And that's probably the question that every investor's got on top of their mind. If you can help us bridge that. Yeah.
spk02: Sure thing, Laurent. Let me, why don't I just explain a little bit how we got to that number. and why we're confident that there will be growth resulting from that. So, you know, more time has helped us understand better what's happening in the category. Our model looks at household penetration rates, purchase frequency, buy rates, repeat rates, and we've looked really at the last 13 weeks versus the whole year, because obviously things have changed. So we've done a lot of work with the model. We talked to wholesalers and retailers to get their input as well. We obviously looked at what's out there from other folks that many of whom are on the call. And the zero to 10 range seems to be consistent with what others are arriving at. Now, there's other, we have new, there's new consumer information that's very important that gives us confidence that there is growth in the category. Actually, one thing I will mention, if you look at IRI and you look at the two-year stack over the, since Labor Day, The two-year stack has been pretty consistent at about 100, 110%, somewhere in that range. So we have seen a stabilization of that two-year stack. So that's another sort of data input that's out there. From a consumer perspective, again, let's start with numerator data. And I know a number of you people look at numerator. Even the latest 13 weeks, we see household penetration continue to increase about 4%, buy rate about 1.5 points. We look at social media metrics, we see 38% of comments are favorable, 17% are unfavorable, a 21-point gap. That gap is bigger than it was a year ago, favorable to unfavorable. We're just starting to get back results from a consumer test. I'm sorry, a consumer study we just done with 4,000 people who drink alcohol between the age of 21 and 55. And some of the top-line things that we've seen, today's hard seltzer drinkers are very eager to increase their consumption. So about a third of them want to consume more hard seltzer, which is more than what beer, wine, and spirits regular drinkers indicated they want to consume of those categories in the future. About three quarters of sort of non-triers or lapsed drinkers are open to trying hard seltzer in the next year. And then importantly, there's only about 6% of people who are truly rejecters. And when we looked at this a year ago, it was about the same. The consumer data, and there's been other work done out there. I know Wendy at Citi did some stuff that also kind of pointed to this as well. The consumer data on top of the quantitative models that we're building all say that this category, there's still a deep interest in the category. Now, I'll give you one other data point, which we just got, which might explain some things, and that is penetration is increasing, but when you look, when you break out new buyer's versus lapsed buyers or casual buyers. There are fewer new buyers coming into the category right now, and they're spending less on average, which has provided some of that downdraft. On the other hand, we also see that there are many more quote unquote heavier repeat buyers, and they're buying more. So it's really a normalization of the category where some of these heavy drinkers are now are adding to the total volume. So it's not a perfect science, as you guys know. And I know everybody on the phone has been trying to figure this thing out, as have we, 24-7. But again, we've looked at our money. And again, I'll give you one more data point at the risk of giving too much. To get to the high end of our growth rate, the 10% growth rate, it assumes household penetration grows by about 2%, or two points, I should say, and buy rate by about 6.5%. So If we can get there and the household penetration year dates up eight, I know it's been going in a different direction, it seems reasonable. So between the model, the consumer work we're doing now, consumer work others have done, numerator's data, it points to a category that's got growth in it. And we do believe that there's growth in the category.
spk13: Thanks, Dave. Very comprehensive. So I'll pass it on and redo the queue. Okay? Thank you. Thank you.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question comes from Madin Sarwat with Bernstein. Please state your question.
spk10: Hi. Thank you for taking my question. One for me, please. So if volumes continue at this new normal that you are forecasting, are you liable to incur any additional expenses such as shortfall fees in the coming years? Thank you.
spk15: Yeah, this is Frank. Let me take that. So when we looked at the capacity that we had contracted with our external manufacturers, some of that we canceled, and that is reflected in the charge that we communicated. With the co-manufacturers or the third-party brewers that we still are working with, we have thresholds. And if we fall below those thresholds, we're still liable to shortfall fees. So the contracts that are still in place We still have that, but it's going to be a much leaner network and much more integrated.
spk10: If I could just follow up on that. Could you then explain how the contracts that you have existing that are left compare to your volume forecast that you've expressed for 2022? Is there a gap in there? What could a worst case scenario be essentially?
spk15: So we have in our entire network, and that's going to be the first time in quite a while, we have sufficient capacity. And so it's not that, yeah, as in previous years, we needed to prebuild inventory to go through the peak. We have sufficient capacity to address that. If you're looking for the risk, the, you know, depending on the range and the preliminary guidance that we have given, There's clearly a margin risk that's related to shortfall fees, but that should not exceed half a percentage point on the gross margin. It should be below that.
spk10: Got it. Thank you very much.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question comes from Bonnie Hertog with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
spk08: Hi, everyone. Hi, Bonnie. Hi, I had a question on your incremental spend. I guess first, I'm surprised your incremental investment spend remains pretty elevated this year, but then you do have plans to step it down pretty considerably next year. So could you guys talk about the strategy behind this, especially in context of your strategy of playing to win? And then I guess thinking about the step down next year, does this suggest your pipeline of innovation will be a lot slower? And, you know, you don't think the hard seltzer category specifically warrants additional spend. And I guess, finally, what's the risk in your mind that a pullback on an incremental spend next year could result, you know, in share losses for you in a category that is decelerating, I guess, with, you know, the possibility for growth to turn negative next year? Thanks.
spk15: So, Bonnie, let me start off, and then I hand it over to Dave. When you look at 2021, clearly, as you know, we have communicated. When we looked at our range, we were clearly targeting a higher growth scenario than what we're ending up with. What has worked in 2020 and what we also did in 2021 was spending at the beginning of the year to make sure that we get in before the peak period and maximize that. Clearly, the volume didn't play out. you could say we spend more relative to the volume that we expected. So we will increase our spend next year, as we said, but not to the same extent. We just have to take into consideration that the growth isn't as high as we had expected. But I think 2021 might not be a really good comparison, you know, because, you know, of everything that happened. But if you look at the AP&S spend that we have, or that we're projecting for 2021, for 2022, I'm sorry, that's going to be close to 30% above 2020 and close to 80% above 2019. So we have invested dramatically into the category, and as we've said before, We did that to make sure that we carve out our market share in the growing category, which is different if you have a category that's stabilizing. It's much harder to steal market share or to gain market share. So I think the dynamics are changing. So we have dramatically increased the spend, and we believe we have enough that we can allocate to where we believe we get the biggest returns.
spk02: And Bonnie, I'll just build on what Frank said. I'll just add one other point, which is we feel very confident that the quality of our creative is very strong. We spend a lot of time, and this is sort of Jim's, one of his passions, so he can jump in on this one, but we spend a lot of time really with our own sort of model to measure the impact, the effectiveness of our creative. So for Twista Tea, Sam Adams, all of our brands, Angry Orchard, and Truly, and we feel like we're we can get more with the same dollar tomorrow when we spend it because of the changes we've made and because of the evolution we've taken in these campaigns. I think the Sam Adams campaign is a really good example. Your cousin from Boston is really resonating and we're bringing in a lot of younger drinkers that we didn't have before. And on top of that, I would say there's a huge PR kind of angle that a good copy can create, which is worth a lot. And so, for example, we had a number of PR initiatives around the advertising investment we made this year for Sam Adams. One was Super Bowl and the Clydesdale ad. We did sort of a COVID vaccine spot. We did a Say It With Sam wedding vows contest. We did just recently one with Inspiration for a Space Mission, and we're creating a spacecraft beer. those all generated hundreds of millions to literally billions of impressions. So it's just one example of how we can get more. So it's not quite as simple to say, look at total law dollars and say, you're not getting, you're not being able to support a full portfolio. We think we are. And the last thing I would say to that is when we see that there's positive response, we'll spend more. So we're not going to stop spending Just because right now we gave this kind of, you know, this isn't even guidance. It's kind of directional thoughts about 2022. If we feel like there's some heat there, we're going to go hard. So we're never going to back away from investing in our brands if we think we can get a return.
spk08: Okay. Yeah, that's definitely helpful because I guess I was kind of thinking about it in the context of, you know, you really have been the driver of, you know, the growth in the category. And if there is any pullback, then I'm just thinking about what that suggests for the outlook for the category. So that's good to hear. If you see something, you'll push harder. And if I could just squeeze in a second quick question as it relates to, you know, the stronger price growth that I guess you're guiding to next year of 3% to 6%, I guess I'm I'm also curious, you know, what gives you guys the confidence that, you know, you have that kind of pricing power, especially, you know, given what we're talking about, the deceleration of the category and, you know, maybe the eventual shakeout of the category, which could happen early next year. You know, and then I think about that in the context of pricing pressure as that shakeout, you know, happens. So just any thoughts there would be helpful. Thank you.
spk15: Yeah, and Bonnie, same thing. I'm going to kick it off and hand it over to Dave. But, you know, our pricing, you know, this year and also next year is very much driven by the inflation of input costs that everybody is facing. And so we'll try to price that. Our confidence is relatively strong because, you know, so far, even with like the softening of the growth in the category, price hasn't seemed to be a real decision factor in the purchase decision. What we have seen is really what makes the difference is the brand strength and the quality of the beverage in itself. But we have seen across the category, pricing attempts to take price down to gain share, and we haven't really seen that working across the category. We haven't seen it with our own brand. So that's why we believe that it won't be a pricing game, at least not at this point.
spk02: I don't have much more to add to that other than if there is a shakeout does occur in Hart Seltzer, fewer brands actually would support the ability to take more price. But this entire ecosystem from retailer, wholesaler, brewer is impacted by all the input costs, as you know. And I think it's in everyone's best interest to to try to recoup those costs. And the last thing I'd say is that, you know, we're not the only ones that are, that have excess raw materials that we're, you know, that we have to dispose of. And note there's no, you know, nobody's resorted to price in this category to try to flush out product. Because I think they believe in the sanctity of pricing, and it's an important thing, particularly in the economy that we're in right now.
spk08: Yes, understood. Thank you again.
spk09: Diego, are you there?
spk04: Our next question comes from Camille Gajdrawala with Credit Suisse. Please state your question.
spk14: Hi, everybody. Thank you, Diego. Can we talk about inflation maybe in a little bit more detail as you're thinking about next year? Obviously, you've given us some rough guidance, but if you can give us an idea of kind of what you're seeing, where you're hedged, if you're not hedged, or at least what some of the assumptions are in some of what you've provided us so far. And obviously not limiting to, you know, gross margins, also maybe including freight if you can.
spk15: Yeah, sure. So the key categories that we're seeing that we've seen this year is clearly aluminum that's going up, that's reflected in the can pricing, that's about, you know, that's double-digit increases. Freight has gone up significantly. That's in the 30% range. I think everybody is experiencing that. We have seen that really coming up. It's a shortage of drivers, and I think the entire economy sees that. So that has elevated everything. We don't believe that's going to go down much. We believe we stay at this higher level and have planned for a further single-digit increase for 2022. So those are kind of the key assumptions. And then we have, you know, paper board, liner board, and also sweeteners that are going up. So, you know, we see inflation, depending on the mix of the different categories, going up to about 5% to 6% for next year for our input materials. And when I talk about inflation, I really mean the underlying commodity and the underlying cost. This is before any productivity savings, volume tiers, or anything else. It's just really the underlying commodity. And to your last question, hedging, we don't hedge. I mean, hedging is like you can extend it. You're gaining time, but at the end of the day, you're faced with the market realities unless you're in a really up and down market. But major trends, so we just like we go through that and we have any edge positions.
spk14: Okay, got it. Thank you.
spk04: Thank you. Our next question comes from Sean King with UBS. Please state your question.
spk03: Hey, guys. Thinking about gross margins and just given some of like the right sizing of the production expectations, Do you see, I guess, a pathway on gross margins getting back, you know, above 50%, like as it's been historically, sort of excluding some of the inflationary headwinds? Or is there something going on with sort of the beyond beer kind of mix of the portfolio that's going to be a structural headwind longer term?
spk15: So, Sean, that's Frank. We don't really see an impact from mix. I mean, we have the hiccup that we have this year with the charge and the cost. We have adjustment costs and absorption impact. But medium to long-term, the fundamentals haven't really changed. And as we've communicated before there, like the key drivers where we see the margin improvement happening is that we're building a more integrated and more balanced production network, like especially this year at the beginning of the week with a patchwork of like our own breweries, we added quite a number of additional production locations, co-manufacturers. And the focus there was not really to integrate them or to get to the lowest possible cost. The focus was really to add capacity as quickly as possible because that What is work in the past years and that's what we did, but we knew all along as long as it stabilizes what we will do is we'll integrate it. So, you know, we're building a network with 4 anchor breweries and most importantly, there's a, there's a really big facility on the West Coast or 2, I should say. that will supply that. So that will drive significant freight savings on two fronts. One is like outbound freight, so we don't have to ship it from the East Coast anymore to the West Coast. And, you know, with the beyond beer categories, especially Seltzer, our growth has happened and has built out the West Coast much more than the East Coast. So that's one big bucket. The second big bucket was variety pack costs, because As you know, the hot salsa category was kind of unique. It was this tremendous growth, but it was also in a completely new packaging format, like slim can variety pack, which didn't exist before. And to produce them at scale and scale economics, that takes some time and some skill. So we've developed that internally, and we're getting and we've identified our external costs were extremely high. So there was one area of improvement. One was to have a higher percentage internally, which we will be achieving because we are reducing our co-manufacturing capacity. The second thing is the co-manufacturers that will be producing variety pack have technology that get them really, really close to where we are internally. So we are achieving that as well. So that was the second one. And the third one is the ongoing impact of our supply chain transformation efforts. where we are better integrating becoming more efficient and that's supporting the the four anchor brewery concept reducing waste and getting to lower inventories and that will also reduce waste because we don't we don't have to pre-build um anymore as much and that's just like as soon as you put stuff in and out of a warehouse that just just increases cost so those are the three key drivers and they they remain in place okay and and you will i mean you've seen the margin guidance We're improving. We're getting to margins, hopefully, that are in the 2020 range or even better. And then we see the first – we have seen the first benefits this year, quite frankly. They are masked with everything else that's going on. We see more benefits next year and then eventually 2023. Great. Thank you very much. All right.
spk04: Our next question comes from Kevin Grundy with Jefferies. Please state your question.
spk01: Great. Thanks. Morning, everyone. Frank, not to belabor, I have two questions, if you don't mind. First one, just a point of clarification on gross margin. The second one for Jim and Dave on the Hard Mountain Dew deal with PepsiCo. So first, is it reasonable that this should be a mid-50% gross margin business? I think you made that comment within the past year or so. It sounded like you were kind of heading that way. If so, What's a reasonable time to achieve it? How important is that objective for the company within the context of sort of broader growth initiatives? And then for Jim and Dave on the PepsiCo Hard Mountain Dew deal, I think it would be helpful just to spend some time on how that agreement came about. You may not want to comment, but what sort of contribution are you expecting this year and how that brand will play within the broader RTD space? And then, Jim, I'm curious to get your thoughts, and sorry for being verbose here. But just on sort of the broader conversions theme, I think PepsiCo's choice to set up a separate entity and handle the distribution is particularly noteworthy. It would be great to kind of get your thoughts on how you see this playing out more broadly for the industry and what the implications are. So thank you for all that.
spk15: All right, Kevin. Let me start with gross margin. Gross margin clearly is a big focus area, and that hasn't changed. We always said as long as we have this hyper growth, especially in hot sales where a new category is being built, growth and cutting out market share is the number one priority. Once the growth moderates a little bit, then we will focus more on gross margin. So that is the strategy that hasn't changed. We see margins above 50%. I don't want to commit to a specific number here, but clearly we see the runway, and that is important to get it over 50% because, as you know, you get the margin up, it applies to the entire volume that you have, and that drives profit and EPS. We started the project. We've seen progress this year. We'll see further progress next year. When we get to the final point, it always will go, but we should see major progress at the latest in end of 2022, 2023. I will say, though, is it's always a function of the growth. If something hits in the middle and a new category is being built and we need to drive growth, we might flip that, but margin is very clearly is very high on our agenda.
spk02: Okay, I'll tell you, it looks like there's one for each of us, Kevin, so I'll do the second one. As it relates to the PepsiCo conversations, I mean, I spent 20 years there, so they still talk to me. And, you know, we've been in touch over time for different things. And, you know, as you know, with Beyond Beer, this Beyond Beer category that we're calling right now, emerging and consumers' desires changing and they're looking for different experiences, we find ourselves pretty quickly competing with with everybody, not just other beer companies, beer, wine, spirits, non-alcohol, et cetera, et cetera. And so there's been different conversations. Maybe started in different places, but ended up with this idea around Hard Mountain Dew. And we went down that path because we do think that we can satisfy consumers' needs with our lineup of brands, and we can innovate as we have as Jim pointed out, very successfully over time to reach those consumers. But given the different dimensions that Beyond Beer is taking, we might need to have some partners for certain things, like Beam Centauri as well. And so that's sort of it kind of ended up with Heart Mountain Dew. You know, our initial preference is to put it through our system. Without question, it always is. And, you know, they have a different agenda, which is right for them. And so we had to come to some sort of a compromise on that. And from that, I can hand it over to Jim, and Jim can talk a little bit more about what this means for us.
spk09: Yeah, and Kevin, you mentioned this much larger theme of convergence, and I would add consolidation and blurring of lines. And I see that as a long-term trend, It's not going to change the world tomorrow, but it is something that will be relevant in our future. Ten years from now, it's going to look different in 20 years, different still. A lot of it is driven by the raw economics of the distribution channel. Basically, your gross margin dollars per stop is the biggest driver of profitability in in the distribution channel and the retailers are encouraging that too they don't if you're a 7-eleven you don't want to see three distributor trucks out in your uh parking lot one delivering you know bud one delivering uh pepsi and another one maybe from a liquor distributor for your wines they prefer fewer trucks fewer salespeople calling on them, fewer invoices. So there is an underlying pressure from that. And then at the manufacturer level, you know, everybody is exploring growth beyond their traditional lanes. The consumers are very supportive of that. There is, you know, a new consumer who is alcohol agnostic. I mean, people don't ask where does the alcohol and truly come from. It's just not that relevant to them. And that's creating this sort of overlapping category. People are calling it beyond beer, but it's also beyond wine, you know, because you're getting, you know, wine in a juice box, canned wine, wine in the form of a margarita in things like Rancho Gloria. And it's in some ways beyond spirits. It's coming in a beer can. but it happens to say Crown Royal on the outside of it. So I guess I see those things as fundamental drivers in our business, and we have moved to build relationships with really strong players in terms of Beam Centauri and Pepsi. I mean, we're a 4% or 5% share of beer, yet we've been able to build relationships with super high-quality companies with great brands. And I'm not sure where all of that's going to go, but I think Boston Beer should be better positioned than our other players in the beer industry if we want to win in this converged and consolidated future. It will happen, as I said, slowly. And alcohol is different. So I think our friends at Pepsi are interested. They're putting their toe in the water. Will they like it? Yet to be determined. They certainly have great capabilities and make great products. But alcohol is its own different animal. There's no slotting fees. There's all these state-by-state laws. It's a much more complicated equation. But, you know, if a solid, capable company wants to get into alcohol, they will, just like beer distributors, you know, are exploring non-alcoholic and seeing what they can do with energy brands and sports brands and new non-alcoholic brands. So I see this convergence and consolidation not going away. And we want to be well positioned to prosper from it.
spk01: That's great. Thank you guys for all the color. I appreciate it.
spk04: Thank you. And once again, to ask any final questions, please press star 1 on your phones now. Our next question comes from Steve Powers with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question.
spk12: Yeah, hey, thank you. sorry yeah thanks um maybe just just a clean up um first frank uh for you i think and then a second question kind of cleaning up from a different topic um the first one is on freight i just want to go back to what you said if i heard you correctly i think you said you're making allowances for um a few a few points of inflation further from here so i guess is that a are you saying uh that's sequential appreciation from here or are you saying that's your call for for 22 kind of base case, a little bit of inflation for, you know, year over year and 22. Cause I guess I would just think that, um, on a year over year basis, given the appreciation we've seen progressively through 21, that there'd be a bigger year over year impact. Although maybe that's offset by some of the West coast build out that you mentioned and efficiencies there. So just a little bit more clarity on what your base cases are afraid.
spk15: Yeah. I think if you look at our freight, and I think we broke freight out separately, our freight on a rate of basis is up higher than inflation. It's roughly 40%. And two-thirds of that is really rate inflation. It's line haul that we're experiencing. But then there's a mixed impact that we're having as well. And the mixed impact is because we're shipping way more to the West Coast. What I was trying to say is there's like a significant 25%, 30% increase that we see really in line haul rates that we see this year. We don't see that going down. We see incremental single digit increase, increases, you know, mid single digits, mid to high single digits for 2022, incrementally to 2021. Okay.
spk12: But then that's partially offset by by the fact that you should have less of that long haul dynamic in 22 versus 21.
spk15: Exactly.
spk12: Exactly.
spk15: That's what that's why I said before, what I'm giving you is like just pure rates and pure commodities. There's other that we have productivity initiatives. We have other things like that's a big saving for us. Okay. Yes. Great.
spk12: Great. And then I just wanted to circle back on the pricing conversation and relative to the volume conversation we were having, because it felt like they were two different conversations, almost implying that you saw no elasticity impacts. The volume conversation was based on sort of household penetration and what consumers were saying. And then the pricing conversation was just cost up because costs are going up with taking price. And I just, in the context of the consumer being asked to bear a lot of price next year from a lot of different categories, and in the context of all the convergence that we were just talking about, like, how are you thinking about elasticity? Are you really thinking, did I hear you correctly, that sort of like elasticity is not a consideration? You feel like you have that pricing power, you're relatively inelastic, or is that factored into the volume outlook for 22?
spk09: Well, I'll take that, Steve. I guess the way we're thinking about it is that we will be pricing up, but we're going in real dollars, we will be probably going down. Now, we're not going to fully recover the 5.5% inflation that we're seeing out in the broader economy, so that the consumer can probably accept that. You know, their earnings will go up probably, and their disposable income, I'm going to guess, will go up a little faster than 3% or 4%, but it certainly won't go up much slower than that. And in our categories, I mean, we tend to compete at the high quality end in everything that we do. So people have already made the decision that they're going to pay more for our brands. All of our brands are priced significantly above the average price per case in the beer category, and they have not traditionally been that price sensitive. I mean, if you look at, say, Truly and the hard seltzer category, yes, there is a Natty Light seltzer. I believe the last time I looked, it had 0.3% share. Yes, it's significantly below the industry leaders, us and White Claw, but it really has not drawn a lot of consumers to it. And, you know, the same thing is kind of true in other categories. We sell craft beer. People, they know they're going to pay more for it. It's significantly above other beers. And even, you know, low-priced craft beers from some of the big players have not gained traction. Cider, everything is more expensive there because it's harder to make and the ingredients are more expensive. Twisted Tea, you know, there are lower-priced hard teas that have come after it, and Twisted Tea still has, you know, 90% to 95% market share in the hard tea category. So I guess I'd say our feeling is that our consumers and our brands are, while not impervious to price, there's got to be elasticities We don't see a volume impact from passing on, you know, a portion of our costs. We're not going up as much as our costs have, and we think that will not impede the volume growth. It will look reasonable, and in the context of everything else, we're going to be going up less than the CPI.
spk04: Okay.
spk12: Thank you very much.
spk04: Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I'll turn it back to Mr. Cook for some closing remarks. Thank you.
spk09: I just want to say thanks, everyone, and we will speak next year.
spk04: Thank you. This concludes today's conference. All parties may disconnect. Have a good day.
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