7/30/2024

speaker
Operator

Thank you for standing by, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Safe Brokers Conference call on the second quarter 2024 financial results. We have with us Mr. Paulus Hajiono, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Dr. Lucas Bampari, President, and Mr. Konstantinos Adamopoulos, Chief Financial Officer of the company. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session, at which time, if you wish to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad and wait for your name to be announced. Following this conference call, if you need any further information on the conference call or on the presentation, please contact Capital Link at 212-661-7566. I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today. The archived webcast of this conference call will soon be made available on the Safe Bulkers website, www.safebulkers.com. Many of the remarks today contain forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Actual results may differ materially from the results projected from those forward-looking statements. Additional information concerning factors that can cause the actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements is contained in the second quarter 2024 earnings release, which is available on the Safe Bookers website, again, www.safebookers.com. I would now like to turn the conference call to one of your speakers today, the chairman and CEO of the company, Mr. Paulus Hagiono. Please go ahead, sir.

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Paulus Hagiono

Good morning to all. I'm Lukas Barbaris, president of CERIG BACOS. I will do the presentation. Key developments in the second quarter include the stock market compared to the previous year, the implementation of our new integrated management system in compliance with dry BMS standards, the order of two additional phase three new bits consistent with our fleet renewal strategy, and the issuance of our 2020 Thesis and Ability Report detailing our ESG practices and our vision for the future. Our strong liquidity and comfortable leverage enabled us to be flexible with our capital allocation, remain focused on long-term value creation, and at the same time reward our shareholders with a dividend of $0.05 per share of common stock. Following a comprehensive review of the forward-looking statements listed in slide 2, Our attention transitions to the market update in slide four. The CAPE market segment has been strong throughout the quarter. All eight of our CAPEs are presently period-chartered, boosting an average remaining chartered duration of 2.4 years with an average daily rate of $24,500. This provides us with a considerable degree of cash flow visibility. On the Panamax front, the chartered market counts at about 15,000. Progressing to the slide number five, we present here an overview of a CRB commodity index fluctuation in basic commodities prices. The geopolitical landscape with tensions in regions such as the Middle East, the Red Sea, and Ukraine underscores the heightened level of global uncertainty. Persistently elevated uncertainty around the inflation outlook has led central banks in major economies to become more cautious about the pace of policy easing, compared with their positions at the end of the first quarter. Consequently, markets' expectations of the number of policy rate cuts to be delivered in 2024 have been revised downward. Upside risk to inflation have increased, raising the prospect of higher for longer interest rates in the context of increased policy uncertainty. In terms of dry bulk, we enjoy a positive dry bulk outlook as supply has been outpaced by demand, setting the stage for additional dry bulk market growth. The limited supply of gases on one hand and the resilient demand on the other enhances rates over the short to medium period. We believe that the existing heat decarbonization efforts and the energy efficiency of utilities will gather all focus on market in the medium term. Overall, on the commodity side, demand for iron ore remains strong, for coal is stable despite energy transition forecasts, and for grains and metal bags stands at very healthy levels. The IMF April forecast of a 3.2% expansion in global GDP for both 2024 and 2025 is accompanied by control of inflationary pressures. According to BIMCO, the forecasted global driver demand growth stands at 3%, increased for 2024. China, being the major global importer and key driver of the market, seems to be having a short landing. Prioritization of energy security would come being the fastest way of that. drives the significant expansion of Siamese renewable energy in Kasnaku, as clearly evidenced by the renewable electricity generation during the first half of 2024, which increased by 20% year-on-year, outpassing the 6% cost-efficiency growth. Nevertheless, coal-fired power plants stabilize the demand for coal imports, as steam coal imports rose by almost 30% year-to-year, The trend would not expect to continue as steam coal shipments in the summer will decrease due to increased electric generation from renewables and due to stronger domestic mining in the second half of 2024. China's growth forecast has been raised to 5% for 2024. However, GDP is expected to slow to 4.5% in 2025 and continue to decelerate over the medium term due to challenges from an aging population and slowing productivity growth. Geopolitical developments, of course, have altered trading patterns and increased tonnage for dry bulk commodities. Rerouting away from the Red Sea and Panama Canal has also bolstered demand in smaller segments. The dry bulk market is hanging on despite the weakening and falling global steel and iron ore prices. Terps, especially, have been solid, averaging 32,000 a day in the second quarter, Dow moderately conveyed first quarter average of $24,000 per day, averaging $37,000 per day so far in the third quarter. A tight supply picture with modest growth this year and tightening effects from the long-haul market trade have played a key role. So far, the third quarter is looking similar to the second quarter with decent earnings. Global coal investment is set to grow by 2 percent in 2024, led by increases in India, Indonesia, and Australia. The resilience of India's robust domestic demand and sustained infrastructure investments seem to play a stabilizing factor, easing the effects of Chinese uncertainty. The growth forecast for India has also been raised to 70.3 percent for this year. reflecting the positive growth and enhanced profits for private consumption, especially in rural areas. Let's proceed now to examine the supply-side dynamics in slide 6. Currently, about 25% of the existing food is older than 15 years, as environmental regulations are seeking to reduce vessels being on the lower end of fuel efficiency, which gradually becomes less competitive, forcing them to be traced out. On top of that, the dry order book remains at about 9%, as the near-to-medium-term trajectory of the freight market remains optimistic, especially when taking into account the availability of dark space and restraining new orders due to incentives in decarbonization technologies. Safe Bunkers Fleet now counts 10 Phase III vessels on the water, all delivered after 2022, with the last delivery taking place just a few days ago. In addition, 32 vessels have been environmentally upgraded, and 11 are eco-vessels having superior design efficiencies. 85% of our fleet comprises of Japanese-built vessels, surpassing the global average of 40%, with our average fleet age of 9.9 years old. Overall, our fleet today is fundamentally upgraded and commercially more competitive than two years ago as a result of the ESG strategy implemented throughout this period, underscoring our commitment to sustainable business. We will continue to become even more commercially competitive as we have on our order book eight more Phase III vessels placed at prices well below the prevailing market to be delivered to us within the next two years. The dissipate combined impact of heat aging and season environmental regulations will position our fleet favorably to compete with the environmental-based charter market, the state regulatory framework, and greenhouse gas targets. Moving to slide 8, we present another view of our green fleet advantage, the breakdown presented in the top right graph. underscores the environmental credentials of our fleet, comprising of 46 vessels, with 32 having undergone environmental upgrades, 10 being phase 3, 11 being echo, and the remaining systems to be upgraded within this year. The bottom graph presents our fleet renewal strategy with the investment of 13 older vessels, acquisition of several second-hand vessels, delivery of 10 phase 3 newbies, and a steadfast order book comparison of eight more phase 3 vessels. resulting to a stable 10-year average fleet age over the past four years. As confirmed by slide 9, this suggestion of fleet expansion serves as a testament to our commitment towards sustainability. In slide 10, we present the same budget security attributes, such as outstanding 65-year track record, robot management ownership aligned with 14%, comfortable leverage of 32%, our output liquidity of 276 million, our significant contract backlog of 250 million, our green fleet advantage evidenced by 7.4% decrease in fleet air emissions, and by our dry BMS standard management system implementation in anticipation of forthcoming city environmental regulations. The quality and competitiveness of our fleet is strategically positioned to leverage on the regulatory landscape, remaining true in our commitment to expand by building a resilient company and regrowth our shareholders with a 21% and about 31% dividend payout ratio. Our effort is not only to have the best fleet in terms of energy efficiency, but also to upgrade our company managerially and be able to compete with anyone. I now pass the floor to our CFO, Konstantinos Adamopoulos, for our quarterly financial overview. Konstantinos, the floor is yours.

speaker
Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for waiting. I apologize about the technical difficulties. We will now return to our regularly scheduled conference. Thank you.

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Paulus Hagiono

Lucas, can you hear us? Yes, I can hear you. Did I finish? Did I say everything? Yes. You said everything.

speaker
spk03

Thank you, Lucas. Thank you, Lucas, and good morning to everyone. This is Konstantin Adamopoulos, the CFO. I will make a presentation about our numbers, the Q2 numbers. As a general note, during the second quarter of 2024, we operated in a stronger charter market environment compared to the same period in 2023, with increased revenues due to higher charter hires, increased earnings from starter-seated vessels, and higher interest expenses due to increased interest rates. If we focus now on our liquidity, our cash flows, and our capital structure, as presented in slide 12, we maintain a comfortable leverage of around 32%. Our debt of about $500 million remains comparable to our fleet's draft value of around $350 million, although our fleet is only 9.9 years old. Our weighted average interest rate stood at 6.3%, for our consolidated debt, of which 100 million euros is fixed as 2.95% in an unsecured five-year bond. So far, we have paid 110 million, or 30%, for our capex in relation to the outstanding order book. Our liquidity and capital resources stand strong at approximately $281 million, which together with the contracted revenue of about $252 million makes a total of around more than $533 million, which is double of the outstanding capital of $252 million. This provides flexibility to our management in capital allocation. Additionally, we have foreign capacity in relation to four existing unencumbered vessels and nine new builds upon their delivery. We are sure that our capital expenditure is adequately covered by our uncontracted future revenues, fortifying our balance sheet towards a trajectory of sustainable growth. Moving on to slide 13. with our quarterly financial highlights for the second quarter of 2022 of 2024 compared to the same period of 2023. Our adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter of 2024 stood at $41.8 million, compared to $34.3 million for the same period in 2023. Our adjusted earnings per share for the second quarter of 2024 was 17 cents, calculated on a weighted average number of 106.8 million shares, compared to 12 cents during the same period last year, calculated on a weighted average number of 112.9 million shares. In slide 14, we present an overview of our quarterly operational highlights for the second quarter of 24 compared to the same period of 2023. During the second quarter of 2024, we operated 45.43 vessels on average, earning a TCE of $18,615 compared to 44.01 vessels, earning an average TCE of $17,271 during the same period in 2023. The company's net income for the second quarter of 2024 was $27.6 million, compared to net income of $15.4 million during the same period last year. Concluding our presentation, we would like to point out that based on our financial performance, the company's board of directors declared a 5% dividend per common share. 5% dividend per common share. We would like to emphasize that the company is maintaining a healthy cash position of about $77 million, as of July 19, 2024, and another $180 million in available revolver-grade facilities, as well as another $20 million from our health for sale vessels, a combined liquidity and capital resources of $276 million. Furthermore, we have contracted revenue from our non-cancelable support and period time charter contracts of $252 million, net of commissions and default scrapped revenue, and additional borrowing capacity in relation to five unencumbered existing vessels and eight new bills upon their delivery. We believe our strong liquidity and our comfortable leverage will enable us to expand the fleet while still rewarding our shareholders. Thank you for your understanding and we are now ready for the Q&A session.

speaker
Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from Omar Nocta from Jefferies. Please proceed.

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Omar Nocta

Thank you. Thank you, guys. Good afternoon. Thanks for the update. I just wanted to ask, obviously, on the fleet, you've been very dynamic here for the past maybe two-plus years. You've been adding these modern, perhaps super-eco, dual-fuel CancerMax new buildings. You've been selling the older ships. Yes. I just wanted to ask, what are your thoughts on the CAPE fleet at this point? Obviously, it's scrubber-fitted, and you have contracts in place on all the ships. But just in general, as you think about that fleet and investing going forward, and given the low order book we're seeing in the broader CAPE market, is that something that maybe you're considering investing in here in terms of perhaps free cash versus continuing to look at further CancerMax new buildings?

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Kalle

You mean investing in tape sizes? Yes, look, TXI's new buildings, the prices are really out of the question at the moment. They are hovering over $75 billion in Japan, and as long as interest rates remain at current levels, we cannot proceed with such investment. Maybe at the future time, maybe in a year's time, If we see some reason of interest rates, we may revisit that case, but always in relation to plate renewal. So we would have to sell an older tape size to buy a newer one. So we don't want to touch it for the time being because of high interest rates.

speaker
Paulus Hagiono

I would like to point out that the last two years, the plethora has been expanded substantially. So in the past, we had about three capes, and right now we have eight. So this shows a proactive movement from our side to invest in the cape-sized market before the prices reach these very high levels.

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Omar Nocta

Yeah, good point. And I guess I wanted to ask then on the capes, because obviously that's part of the market perhaps this year that's done quite well, and it has that low order book ratio. But, yeah, the returns aren't there, as you're mentioning, at least on new buildings. You are acquisitive on the second hand, as you just mentioned. Are there returns there that look interesting, or is it kind of across the board capes look too expensive relative to, say, the CancerMax or midsize segments?

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Kalle

Yes, I think, of course, the boats are too expensive, so you need 50 million to buy an eight-year-old cave size from a good yard. So for us, it's not a good investment at this point. The living interest rates were 3%, and we have a different proposal, but right now we want to wait for that time. Okay.

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Omar Nocta

Thank you for that, Kalle. And maybe just... Just a follow-up, maybe kind of thinking about just the market in general. Obviously, dry bowl rates across the board this year have been very healthy, much better than last year. We've seen some softer steel prices and a bit more of a tougher, maybe steel complex. Obviously, in China, but globally, it seems that things are under pressure. The caves have generally held up, even though they've eased here recently. The caves have been very good. Do you think that's As we think about this market dynamic, do you think, I guess, overall for dry bulk, has it been a tight supply picture that's perhaps insulated the sector from weakness in the steel markets? Or is it perhaps just eventually weakness will make its way into the dry bulk rates and we're not seeing it yet? Any color you're able to perhaps give on what's driving the market here recently? Sure.

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Kalle

Yes, right now the market is a little bit on the weak side and traditionally it's weak during the summer months. And we expect improvement in the fourth quarter of this year. And what we have not seen in the last few months is we have not seen real congestion in any of the major loading or decharging areas for dry bulk tonnage. And also we have seen very little... to Europe from the Far East, and generally a bit of a weak market in the Atlantic. And we believe that the Atlantic will pick up as we enter in the autumn, in the September-October period, as it always does, and this will lift the market. We need a bit of a stronger Atlantic market to lift at least the Kamsa Max market. Of course, you know, even at $16,000 or $17,000 a day, the spot market, $15,000 to $17,000 is still a healthy market as far as we are concerned. So we don't really complain about it. Of course, a key part to it is all the... closure of the Red Sea and, not closure, but the restriction of the trading via the Red Sea and Panama Canal, which exists at the moment. Panama Canal is for a number of months, and the Red Sea since January, February of this year. And this will continue to be that case. We don't see any dry calculations passing through the canal, but maybe one or two every That's about it. And I think this will guarantee that the market will stay a bit longer and at good levels. What is the most important for us in the long run as a company? Well, we don't plan on a quarter-per-quarter basis. We are planning on a long-term basis. is the fact that environmental regulations are getting tougher. From the 1st of January, the trading into European waters will be costing 70% of the penalty we are paying for CO2. 40% that it was this year. This would make demand for the ships to trade the Atlantic business, which traditionally the Atlantic business was a market for older ships. And these older ships would not find it comfortable to trade cargo from U.S. cargo to continent or Brazil continent or to the continent because simply they will have to pay extra cost for the EU ETS fee. And hence they will try to find business in the Pacific. In the Pacific they are not very welcome, especially in Australia if you are over 15 years old or you are approaching 20 years old. So they would not be able to trade diesel in the Atlantic, they would not be able to trade diesel in the Pacific, and some of those ships will head to the scrapyard. So a bit of a weak market will not do us any harm, because, as you know, safe markets have already delivered 10 Phase III vessels, very economic ships, and another eight are coming through in the next two years. So we're looking more into what will happen in the next two or three years rather than the next two months.

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Omar Nocta

Yeah, thank you. That makes sense, and I appreciate the insight and the deep detail. That's it for me. Thank you.

speaker
Operator

Our next question comes from Clemend Mullins from Value Investors. Please proceed.

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Camsul Max

Clemend Mullins Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my questions. I wanted to start by asking about the returns on the environmental upgrades you've pursued on your existing fleet. Could you provide some commentary on some of the initiatives you've done? And secondly, what kind of returns are these investments generating?

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Kalle

Yes, look, first of all, we start with the scrub investment, which we started in 2019, and we completed in 2020. This has been paid off already, and Whatever income is generated by the scrubbers now is a profit on the annual result. Right now the spread is around $80, $90. It's not at a very good level, but still on those numbers the company is earning an extra $20 million a year. So after that we take this money and we throw them on environmental law. investment of the existing fleet by upgrading them on all of them, on dry dockings, even on our older ships. So we just finished now an all-six-built Camsul Max dry docking that we applied low friction paints and other improvements on the hull. We have reduced the consumption of both ships by two tons. So from 24 tons down to 22 tons. So it's, you know, a 17-year-old ship is doing better, 18-year-old ship is doing better, better consumption than the BKI average, which is 23 tons. So with this improvement, the ships are saving around, are earning around $1,000 a day more. Because of the fuel saving, you have $101,000 charter rates higher. And we will carry on doing this investment on the existing fleet. So basically we take the scrub revenue and we put it back on the remaining ships.

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Camsul Max

Thanks for the call. Following up on Nomar's question on your fleet positioning, you still have a few 2006, 2007 built CancerMax and PostManaMaxes. Considering that asset pricing has done pretty well over the past year, should we expect the disposal of some of these going forward? Or are you comfortable holding on to them for the foreseeable future, especially after the recent upgrades?

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Kalle

Yes, well, there is an upgrade that works in two folds. First is the The one is that the ships can earn extra income whilst they remain under the company's operation. You have to remember these are ships we contracted as new buildings 17, 18 years ago. So they are very well looked after. Of course, the company is not selling at any price. When we receive the right buyer at the right price and we get the premium over the market rates because we believe the ships are worth the premium, we can sell. Of course, we are not in a hurry to sell all of them. We are selling one ship, a quarter of one ship every six months because we have to allow time for the new buildings to get delivered in the fleet. So it will be a process that will be going on for the next two or three years at good periods of the market and when we find the right buyer to appreciate the condition of the ships and the investments we have done in the recent dry tokens, of course we will sell if we can achieve prices like the last deals we have done. So it will be a slow process and it will take some time, but, you know, we are not going to have to complete the sale of the older ships in the next six months.

speaker
Camsul Max

That's very helpful. That's all for me. Thank you for taking my questions. Thank you.

speaker
Operator

Once again, I would like to remind participants that if they would like to ask a question, they may press star 1 on their telephone keypad. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the floor back over to Lucas Bamparas, Dr. Lucas Bamparas, for closing comments.

speaker
Paulus Hagiono

Thank you very much for coming, for being with us this morning and hearing our presentation. We wish you to have a pleasant summer, and we're looking forward to discussing it with you in our next quarter call meeting. Thank you very much.

speaker
Operator

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