8/27/2025

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Operator
Conference Operator

Good morning and welcome to the James Smucker Company's Fiscal 2026 First Quarter Earnings Question and Answer Session. This conference call is being recorded and all participants are in a listen-only mode. Please limit yourselves to two questions and re-queue if you have additional questions. I'd like to turn the conference call over to Crystal Biding, Vice President, Investor Relations and Financial Planning and Analysis. Thank you. You may begin.

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Crystal Biding
Vice President, Investor Relations and Financial Planning and Analysis

Good morning, and thank you for joining our fiscal 2026 first quarter earnings question and answer session. I hope everyone had a chance to review our results as detailed in this morning's press release and management's prepared remarks, which are available on our corporate website at jmsmucker.com. We will also post an audio replay of this call at the conclusion of this morning's Q&A session. During today's call, we may make forward-looking statements that reflect our current expectations about future plans and performance. These statements rely on assumptions and estimates, and actual results may differ materially due to risks and uncertainties. Additionally, we use non-GAAP results to evaluate performance internally. I encourage you to read the full disclosure concerning forward-looking statements and details on our non-GAAP measures in this morning's press release. Participating on this call are Mark Smucker, Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board, and Tucker Marshall, Chief Financial Officer. We will now open the call for questions. Operator, please queue up the first question.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. The question and answer session will begin at this time. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing any numbers. Should you have a question, please press star 1 on your telephone. If you wish to withdraw your question, please press star 2. For operator assistance, please press star 0. As a reminder, please submit yourselves to two questions during the Q&A session. Should you have additional questions, you may re-queue and the company will take questions as time allows. Once again, that's star one to be placed in the question queue. Our first question is coming from Andrew Lazar from Barclays. Your line is now live.

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Andrew Lazar
Analyst, Barclays

Thanks so much. Good morning, everybody.

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

Morning.

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Andrew Lazar
Analyst, Barclays

I think last quarter Smucker mentioned that the pricing would benefit the coffee segment sales by about 20% for fiscal 26. With new tariff headwinds since that time, I guess what would your updated expectation be on pricing benefit in this segment B now? And was that included as part of the August price increase, or is there still more likely to come?

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Andrew, good morning. Yes, the current outlook for pricing in the coffee segment is going to be in the mid-20s now. That would include additional pricing actions in the early winter associated with the increased tariff rates that we're experiencing on green coffee. And then furthermore, we would likely see an impact to volume in the low to mid-teens, therefore having kind of a low to mid-teens overall growth for the segment year over year.

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Andrew Lazar
Analyst, Barclays

Great. Really helpful. And then last quarter, the company mentioned that first quarter EPS would be the softest quarter and that 2Q and 3Q would be consistent with each other. And now I think the second quarter decline is expected to be greater than than the first quarter decline and maybe more muted than 3Q. So I'm just curious kind of what changed there to sort of cause that shifting and what appears to be a shift in sort of phasing.

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Andrew, so as you know, our outlook for the full year has not changed at the midpoint. We still have a $9 midpoint guidance range. We do see favorability coming through our fiscal year as a result of better than anticipated price elasticity of demand assumptions through our coffee portfolio. But that benefit is being offset by increased tariffs that we're experiencing since our original guidance. And then to your point, in our first quarter, we did experience some additional coffee costs greater than we anticipated. We always knew that the first quarter was going to be our highest coffee cost quarter, came in a little higher than anticipated. The outlook also anticipates that in our second quarter, just due to the timing of our hedging activity along with the physical receipt of green coffee, we'll have some additional costs in the second quarter that is causing our outlook change for the second quarter. But overall, we do see coffee in line with profit expectations coming into the fiscal year based on where we stand now after absorbing the incremental tariffs.

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Andrew Lazar
Analyst, Barclays

Great. Thanks so much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Peter Galbo from Bank of America. Your line is now live.

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Peter Galbo
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Tucker, I was hoping maybe we could pick up on the coffee piece there. The elasticity, I think, that you've assumed now is about 20 cents better than you had at Q4 with the additional 25 cents on tariffs, so netting about 5 cents worse. I was just hoping maybe you could help us gross that up to the top line level. I think from an elasticity perspective, you were assuming about a 0.4 or 0.5 before. Just want to understand kind of where that number on a holistic basis has moved to now.

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Sure. So I think if we take a step back, we really have several pricing actions that are flowing through our fiscal year. The first was in the May timeframe. The second is in the August timeframe. And then likely in the early winter, there will be a third action as well. And what we did coming into the fiscal year is on average across our entire portfolio over an entire fiscal year was about a 0.5 elasticity. And what we've experienced through our May pricing is a slightly better factor that enabled us to have a very strong first quarter within our coffee portfolio, kind of over delivering expectations of about $50 million. We've taken that assumption throughout the balance of the fiscal year, which is really enabling us to call up coffee about $100 million on a full year basis due to the implications of price elasticity of demand factors. Our August pricing, we're still kind of keeping at that 0.5 factor, which is the historical elasticity. And then any future pricing actions that we would take in early winter, that would largely be at a greater elasticity factor than historical just due to the timing and nature, and also the fact that we're taking so much pricing in one fiscal year, as we just called out in Andrew's question, kind of in the mid-20%. Hopefully that helps.

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Peter Galbo
Analyst, Bank of America

Yeah, thanks for the clarity there. And then, Mark, as a follow-up, I think in your prepared remarks, you talked about milk bone returning to growth in the second half of this fiscal year. And I just want to understand if that comment was really driven by just some of the compares and some of the one-offs that happened in the second half of last year, or if your expectation is that consumption in milk bone actually returns to positive growth in the second half as well. And maybe you can just remind us again on some of the dynamics on the year-over-year. Thanks very much.

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

Sure, Peter. Yeah. You are correct. We will have some strong comps in the back half, which will help. What I would highlight about MilkBone is that the brand, we continue to support the brand, obviously, through advertising, the innovation on the PB Bites. We have seasonals coming, and we will tactically sharpen some specific price points or use promo where we need to. But We still have high confidence in the brand, but acknowledge that because the consumer in discretionary categories continues to be a bit cautious, we have seen the frequency of pet parents treating their pets go down a little bit. But because of all of the actions that I just highlighted, And the continued, you know, support that we will provide to the brand, the fact that it has so many different varieties and plays across the value spectrum, we still have high hopes for that brand and will continue to support it all the way through the fiscal year.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Robert Moscow from TD Cal, and your line is now live.

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Robert Moscow
Analyst, TD Cal

Hi, thanks for the question. I was wondering, in your discussion about sweet baked snacks and explaining the volume decline in the quarter, I didn't notice any mention of the SKU rationalization impacting the volume. I wanted to know if that impacted it as well. And then secondly, can you give a little more detail on the dedicated sales organization that you're putting in place? How is it different from your go-to-market approach currently, and what do you expect to get out of it?

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

Thanks. Sure, Rob. It's Mark. First on the sales, we have a dedicated convenience store sales force, which we've had from the outset, and that obviously is a core competency of the business. And then just more broadly in totality, a dedicated sales force, it's It functions similar to our total sales force. It's just focus. It's really all about making sure that we're focused on the right things and getting the execution that we need all the way down to the store shelves. And as it relates to the SKU rationalization, we won't be through the work of rationalizing those SKUs until through the second quarter. And we do expect that over time, the remaining portfolio will continue to replace those sales and overall improve profitability in the segment. And then finally, I might just add that although it wasn't a prepared remarks, I'd love to just emphasize that we are starting to see some green shoots as we are referring to them in terms of things like the convenience channel slightly improving in terms of health and traffic. We've had good share performance at some of our most important traditional retail and mass customers. I mentioned the profit performance. And then just overall, the focus that we're bringing to the portfolio over time will benefit the brand. And then finally, I think one of the highlights is Donetsk. and the fact that the breakfast occasion continues to be strong, and we have seen good growth out of our Donette's brand.

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Robert Moscow
Analyst, TD Cal

And did the rationalization impact volume in first quarter? It did not. Okay. All right. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Next question today is coming from Tom Palmer from J.P. Morgan. Your line is now live.

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Tom Palmer
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Good morning. Thanks for the question. I wanted to follow up on Andrew's question about the guidance and kind of implications for the cadence. So you reiterated the annual, addressed maybe some incremental weakness for the second quarter. That would seem to suggest that maybe the back half of the year is a bit better than you previously anticipated. I just wanted to clarify, what's driving that? that improvement in the second half versus what you expected previously?

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so I think there's a couple of factors. One is in the first half, we just have timing of coffee costs coming through our first and second quarters, but the profit outlook for coffee remains intact with our original expectations coming into the fiscal year after absorbing an incremental 25 cents of tariffs. but yet experiencing a positive 20 cent tailwind associated with favorable elasticities. And so really what we're doing is we're just shifting some of the profit to our third and fourth quarters, but we remain focused on the midpoint of our guidance range at this point in time.

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Tom Palmer
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Understood. Thank you. And then on the sweet bake snacks, the skew reduction, when does, the actions you're taking start to impact the earnings line. Is that we should look for a sequential improvement as we move through the second half of fiscal 26? Or is it more a consideration for fiscal 27? Thanks.

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so we've outlined a $30 million savings benefit associated with skew rationalization and the closure of our Indianapolis bakery. And we'll begin to see about $10 million of that benefit flow through our fourth quarter with the balance or 20 million impacting or benefiting fiscal year 27. And profitability in Sweet Bake Snacks should improve sequentially as we move through the fiscal year with the fourth quarter being our strongest. And that would also track with the top line.

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Tom Palmer
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Got it. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Peter Grom from UBS. Your line is now live.

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Peter Grom
Analyst, UBS

Thanks, operator. Good morning, guys. In the prepared remarks, you touched on the sequential momentum that you're seeing that should set up for an on-algorithm year or better in fiscal 27. So just given that we're one quarter into fiscal 26, can you just talk about the level of confidence or visibility you have to that at this stage?

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Our visibility into next fiscal year continues to be sort of a work in progress. But I think what we were trying to highlight is as we think about the coffee portfolio, our strongest margins will be in the fourth quarter, which would be in the mid-20s. So you'd have a nice exit rate within your green coffee portfolio or your overall coffee business. Two is, is you see the ongoing benefits of the stabilization efforts within the hostess portfolio. And then you see the continued momentum of your growth brands around Uncrustables, MeowMix, MilkBone as well, which just enable us to give some point of view as it relates to how we're thinking about next fiscal year. And we also continue to navigate the overall tariff environment.

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Peter Grom
Analyst, UBS

Great. That's super helpful. And then just a follow-up, just in terms of phasing on the top line, but more how you see price relative to volume mix. I think the presentation shows an expectation for 10% price for the year and vol mix down four. So just curious how you see that evolving from here. And then specifically on coffee pricing, 18% in the first quarter expectation for mid 20% for the year. Any thoughts you can share on what that ramp looks like? given the August increase and now the potential winter increase as well. Thanks.

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so coffee, let's begin with coffee. Coffee being in the mid-20s, we saw 18% come through Q1. You'll feel basically in the mid-20s in your second and third quarter, and then your fourth quarter you'd be slightly ahead of that as you think about the coffee portfolio. And then just in terms of the overall sales ramp for the full fiscal year, I'll just acknowledge that we continue to get sequentially better as we move through the balance of the year.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Megan Clapp from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now live.

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Megan Clapp
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking our question. I wanted to ask about the increased free cash flow outlook. Seems like there's a one-time benefit coming through this year, but just wondered if you could talk high level about what you're expecting to do with that increased cash, how we should think about maybe pace of deleveraging going forward. Thank you.

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Megan, good morning. Yes, we did increase our free cash flow outlook from $875 million to $975 million for the full fiscal year. That increase of $100 million is largely driven by the benefits coming through the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, and it is not a one-time benefit. It will be an ongoing annual benefit as we move forward into subsequent fiscal years. We plan to use the proceeds or the incremental cash to support our ongoing debt paydown efforts in order to achieve our three times leverage profile by the end of fiscal year 27.

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Megan Clapp
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, awesome. That's helpful. Thank you. Maybe just on the 2Q comparable net sales outlook, I think in the prepared remarks you said mid-single digit. That's a bit above, I guess, where the scanner data has been tracking more recently. I know we'll get this August price increase in coffee, which will help. But it does seem like there's maybe some dynamics with sweet baked snacks and the SKU reduction, maybe some sequential improvement in PET. So just wondered if you could just help us unpack as we think about tracking the scanner data over the next couple of quarters, which segments we should expect to see kind of sequential improvement and how we should think about that in terms of the reported sales. Thank you.

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, you'll see continued momentum in coffee, as we've discussed. Within frozen handheld and spreads, you'll see the momentum coming through the Uncrustables brand or portfolio. As you think about in our pet segment, you'll see the ongoing momentum in our cat food portfolio, and then you'll see the ongoing kind of stabilization efforts coming through within Sweet Baked Snacks. And then our away-from-home business continues to be a bright spot in our portfolio as well.

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Megan Clapp
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Alexia Howard from Bernstein. Your line is now live.

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Alexia Howard
Analyst, Bernstein

Good morning, everyone.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Good morning.

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Alexia Howard
Analyst, Bernstein

Can I ask on coffee, first of all, there was no mention of potentially pursuing tariff exemptions in the mitigating activities that you're pursuing. Is there a chance that an application for an exemption on the tariffs, because obviously coffee can't be grown in the U.S., could be a possibility further down the road?

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

Thanks, Alexi. It's Mark. You know, we continue to monitor and assess any changes that we're seeing to trade policy and tariffs. And obviously, where we're really focused is working through our industry associations to advocate for policymakers and ultimately are really striving to get the best outcomes for our consumers. But at this point, we don't have anything to report in terms of any further relief from But as if, you know, if anything does come through, we would certainly reflect that in our guidance.

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Alexia Howard
Analyst, Bernstein

Thank you. And then as a follow-up, on the hostess business, are you seeing any impact from GLP-1 drugs specifically? And should we be concerned that with pill versions coming out early in calendar 26 that there might be some incremental pressure over the course of next year?

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

Thanks, Alexia. I was expecting that question. And we know, as we've said in the past, we still monitor this and really take a close look at the impact of GLP-1s and what they're having on food generally and more specifically our business. And we update our outlook monthly on that. And up to this point, we still monitor don't see any meaningful impact in our categories, and we will continue to make sure that we're offering the consumer products and variants of products that they're seeking, whether that could be reduced sugar or portion sizes and so forth. So we feel like the portfolio is very well positioned to address those types of issues, and we'll continue to monitor.

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Alexia Howard
Analyst, Bernstein

Thank you very much. I'll pass it on.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Max Comfort from P&P Power Buy, your line is now live.

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Max Comfort
Analyst, P&P Power Buy

Hey, thanks for the question. I'm trying to get a better sense for on your updated coffee assumptions. So it sounds like you now expect to see mid-20% pricing this year. You expect to see a volume impact down in the low to mid-teens, resulting in sales in the low to mid-teens. So it sounds like overall U.S. Sicily is still expected to be about 0.5X, so in line with what you expected before. I think it sounds like it's because earlier price increases are now better than expected. August will be roughly in line with historical of 0.5, and then winter, much worse. If that's all true, how do we square that with the commentary that the combined impact of coffee and tariffs is still going to be roughly 0.5X? $0.80 to $0.85 headwind to no real change in the combined impact, despite the fact that volume is going to be much worse than you expected before, it feels like. Can you just give a bit more color on that?

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah. So, Max, I think the way that you framed in the pricing and the volume and the current outlook for growth for the business is correct based on Our prepared remarks and some questions I've already answered previously. I would say that what we're seeing is that coffee outlook has gone up by $100 million for the full fiscal year. Much of that came through Q1, and much of that is sharpening the pencil on early pricing actions and the impact of price elasticity of demand. When you kind of factor that in, that is a 20-cent benefit to your guidance range. But unfortunately, tariff rates have gone above 10%. And we have to react to that. And we now have a net 25 cent impact, which is largely coming through our coffee portfolio, which is just basically bringing them back to their financial plan at profit for the year. So we do view this as a good story in the resilience of the overall coffee category, the strength of our brands in the category. But unfortunately, there's just factors beyond our control that are not enabling us to take either the profit up in the business unit or taking up our guidance as a result of increased tariff.

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Max Comfort
Analyst, P&P Power Buy

Great. And then, Mark, going back to the last question on GLP-1 drugs and your monthly research showing no real impact so far, can you provide a bit more color on what your studies are showing in terms of, I assume they are showing that consumers on GLP-1 drugs are eating less food, given we know these drugs are effective at reducing weight, but if that's true, why are you not seeing an impact? Are you saying that your categories are not the categories where consumers are reducing their food consumption, or are there other parts of this story that I'm missing? Just curious for a bit more color on what you are seeing, given you are doing pretty detailed research on this topic. Thanks very much.

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

Yeah. Of course, Max. Thanks. So, first of all, the data that we look at is across a very pretty broad variety of sources, and as we all know that these drugs do reduce appetite and cause folks to eat less, I would highlight that our category is, you know, various parts of our category don't really fall into at all the areas that people might consume less, like coffee, beverages, and, of course, PET. And so where you might see, you know, in our other frozen handhelds and spreads and Hostess, I think everyone likes to focus on Hostess, the fact is, you know, people who are consuming Uncrustables for the most part are athletes, families with kids, you know, universities were now in, you know, have really good performance in convenience stores. And so from an Uncrustable standpoint and a spread standpoint, we really haven't seen any impact at all from the GLP-1. And then as you would expect on Hostess, because it's a suite, people still do look to reward themselves with something small, potentially, and indulgent, you know, throughout the day. And the snacking trends still indicate that about 70% of consumers are still snacking twice a day. And it might be salty, it might be sweet, what have you. But at the end of the day, as we look at who is consuming our products, we have not seen a meaningful impact from these drugs on the categories that might be affected. Great. Thanks very much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Next question is coming from Scott Marks from Jeffries. Your line is now live.

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Scott Marks
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, good morning. Thanks so much for taking our questions. First thing I wanted to ask about, maybe just a clarification, the hostess SKU reduction. It sounds like it's maybe some long tail skews, you know, some smaller skews. Just wondering if you can clarify maybe how much in sales that represents of that part of the business and, you know, how we should think about the impact of that for this year.

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

You know, it's a combination. It is mostly long tailed skews and it is skews that are not generating the requisite profit impact. And so really getting focused on the brands, the sub-brands, if you will, under Hostess and the products that are going to drive both growth in top and bottom line are where we're focused. I would not spend too much time focusing on the sales because we do believe that we can offset the sales by growth in the more important sub-brands. So, for example, Donetsk. is three times the size of the next closest brand, which is cupcakes. And so with Donets, growth there is good. And then, you know, continuing to focus on the other occasions outside of breakfast will help us support brands like cupcakes and Twinkies.

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Scott Marks
Analyst, Jefferies

Understood. Thanks for that. Second question comes back to a one that was asked earlier just around kind of the the tariff situation, you know, on coffee, you know, if, for instance, some exemption does come through on that, you know, how maybe should we be thinking about, you know, the pricing actions that you mentioned in the winter or, you know, how long might that take to be reflective in your P&L? Just trying to gauge, you know, what the impacts would be and how long they might take to show up.

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Tucker Marshall
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, Scott, so we now have embedded net 50 cents negative impact due to tariffs in our guidance range. That is a result of, you know, tariffs coming into place at the end of our last fiscal year, tariffs being in full year effect of this fiscal year, and then tariffs going above 10%. There's very much a timing impact. So should we receive relief and whatever the definition of relief is on green coffee, We would come back and have to revise the impact of the 50 cents for the fiscal year just due to the fact we're realizing it now and timing associated with it. And then secondly is we could also at that time then provide an update as it relates to how that would transition into FY27. But the thing that I want to caution is should you read of relief, you may not add back the 50 cents to the full fiscal year because of the realization and timing factors that we're experiencing to date.

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Scott Marks
Analyst, Jefferies

That's helpful. Thanks for the clarity. Thanks for taking the questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. We reach the end of our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back for any further closing comments.

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Mark Smucker
Chief Executive Officer and Chair of the Board

Well, first of all, thank you, everyone, for your time and for joining the call this morning. Our first quarter results demonstrate our strategy is working, and we continue to take actions to position the company for long-term growth and manage the things that we believe truly can control and react to those which may be out of our control in a positive fashion. This includes making strategic investments in the business, launching consumer led innovation, and continuing to shift our portfolio to growth. And as always, I would like to thank our outstanding employees for their continued hard work and dedication to our company. We hope that many of you will be able to join us in Boston at the Barclays Global Consumer Staples Conference next week. A live webcast of our presentation is on September 2nd at 1245 p.m. Eastern and can also be accessed from our investor relations website. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today's teleconference webcast. You may disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for your participation today.

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