1/18/2019

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the L'Eche Lumberge earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. Instructions will be given at that time. If you need assistance during the call, please press star, then zero. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Vice President of Investor Relations, Mr. Simon Ferrant. Please go ahead.

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Simon Ferrant
Vice President of Investor Relations

Good morning, good afternoon, and welcome to the L'Eche Lumberge Limited fourth quarter and full year 2018 earnings call. Today's call is being hosted from Houston following the L'Eche Lumberge Limited board meeting. Joining us on the call are Paul Kipsgaard, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Simon Iac, Chief Financial Officer, and Patrick Sean, Executive Vice President Wells. We will, as usual, first go through our prepared remarks, after which we'll open up for questions. For today's agenda, Simon will first present comments on our fourth quarter financial performance before Patrick reviews our results by geography. Paul will close our remarks for the discussion of our technology portfolio and our updated view of the industry macro. However, before we begin, I'd like to remind the participants that some of the statements we'll be making today are forward looking. These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from those projected in these statements. I therefore refer you to our latest 10K filing and other SEC filings. Our comments today may also include non-GAAP financial measures. Additional details and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our fourth quarter press release, which is on our website. Finally, after our prepared remarks, we ask that you please limit yourself to one question or one related follow-up to in the Q&A period in order to allow more time for others who may be in the queue. Now I'll hand the call over to Simon Ayat.

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Simon Iac
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Simon. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in this conference call. Fourth quarter earnings per share, excluding charges and credits, was 36 cents. This represents a decrease of 10 cents sequentially and 12 cents when compared to the same quarter of last year. During the quarter, we recorded the net credit of three cents per share. This consisted of a gain on the divestiture of the Western Geomarine Seismic business, partially offset by certain asset impairment charges. Our fourth quarter revenue of $8.2 billion decreased .8% sequentially. Pre-tax operating margin decreased 172 basis points to 11.8%. Highlights by product group were as follows. Fourth quarter reservoir characterization revenue of $1.7 billion decreased 1% sequentially. A seasonal decline in one-line activity in Russia and reduced one surface revenue in the Middle East were partially offset by year-end SIS software sales. As a result, pre-tax operating margins of 22% was essentially flat as compared to the previous quarter. The revenue of $2.5 billion increased 1% sequentially, primarily driven by higher activity in Latin America and the Middle East offset by a seasonal decline in Russia. Margins decreased 105 basis points to 12.9%, largely reflecting again seasonal decline in activity in Russia and increased mobilization costs, which impacted IDS internationally. Production group revenue of $2.9 billion decreased 10% sequentially, while margin decreased 310 basis points to 6.8%. These results were driven by reduced pricing and activity in the one-stream hydraulic fracturing business in North America land. Cameron Group revenue of $1.3 billion decreased 3% sequentially as increased sales in service systems were more than offset by lower revenue from one subsea and valve and measurements. Cameron margin declined 140 basis points to 10%, largely driven by one subsea. On the positive side, the -to-bill ratio for the Cameron long-cycle business increased to 1.5 in Q4, and the one subsea backlog increased to $1.9 billion. This all bodes well for the future. The effective tax rate, excluding charges and credits, was 16% in the fourth quarter. This is similar to the previous quarter. Before discussing cash, I want to share with you something I constantly repeat within Schwember J. Profit is an opinion, but cash is a fact. During 2018, we returned $3.2 billion of cash to our shareholders through dividends and share buybacks. During the quarter, we spent $100 million to repurchase 2.1 million shares at an average price of $48.44. We generated $5.7 billion of cash flow from operation for the full year 2018, and $2.3 billion during the fourth quarter. Our free cash flow was $1.4 billion for the fourth quarter and $2.5 billion for the full year of 2018. This is all despite making severance payments of approximately $340 million during 2018. Additionally, during the quarter, we completed the sale of our Western GECO marine seismic business and received cash proceeds of $600 million. As a result, our net debt decreased by $1.2 billion during the quarter to $13.3 billion. We ended the quarter with total cash and investments of $2.8 billion. We expect that we will meet all of our cash commitments for 2019 without having to increase net debt year over year. And now I will turn the conference call over to Patrick.

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Patrick Sean
Executive Vice President Wells

Thank you, Simon, and good morning, everyone. In my geographical commentary today, consolidated revenues include the results of the Cameron product lines. For the full year 2018, our consolidated revenues grew for a second year in a row, increasing 8% over 2017. Performance was driven by North America, where the revenue increased 26% due to the 41% growth of our one-stem business. Full year international revenue was essentially flat with the prior year, although the second half of 2018 showed year over year growth of 3%, marking the beginning of a positive activity trend after three consecutive years of declining revenues. Full year pre-tax operating income improved 7% over the prior year. Fourth quarter revenue, however, decreased 4% sequentially with the pre-tax operating income falling by 16%. This performance was driven by significantly lower land activity in North America due to the weakness in the Permian that began with the production takeaway constraints in the middle of the year. Internationally revenues proved more solid, despite seasonal slowdowns with the greatest strength in activity seen in the Middle East and Asia area. In North America, revenue decreased 12% sequentially as customers dramatically cut fracturing activity in response to lower oil prices. Although we were expecting weakness in the Permian, its effects were exacerbated by a further drop in the oil prices. In response, we decided to warm stack fract fleets for the second half of the quarter and focus on securing dedicated contracts for the first half of 2019 early in the tendering cycle. As a result, revenue from our -in-business fell by 25%. US land drilling activity, on the other hand, proved robust during the quarter with the rig count being largely flat sequentially and the wells drilled per rig remaining stable, despite average lateral lengths continuing to increase. In this market, our operational efficiency, new technologies and broad range of business models helped drive drilling and measurements revenue higher in both the US and Canada. Cameron revenue on land was lower sequentially from weaker revenue and wells and measurements and service systems due to the overall decline in North America land activity. On the SPM, Palace Reset in Canada, drilling continued with four rigs, and in 2018, we drilled 123 wells and more than doubled oil production from 10,000 to 21,000 barrels per day. Offshore North America increased drilling activity on development projects and higher Western GECO, multi-client seismic license sales drove revenue higher, but this was not enough to offset lower Cameron activity. Looking ahead to the first quarter, equipment is now tight with activity expected to strengthen on the new expiration season in Alaska and Canada. Moving to the international markets, fourth quarter consolidated revenue grew 1% sequentially despite the seasonal slowdown in Russia and Central Asia. Revenue increased in the Middle Eastern Asia area and in Europe and Africa, while Latin America was flat compared with the previous quarter. One of our main drivers in the international activity during the year was the continual ramp up of our integrated drilling services business. Further rigs were mobilized during the fourth quarter with full deployment being reached on many projects with startup and mobilization costs complete. As a result, we started to see operational efficiencies. Among the areas, consolidated revenue increased 2% sequentially in the Middle Eastern Asia area, primary from higher revenue in the Eastern Middle East Geo market during to strong integrated drilling services project in Iraq when new contracts were signed. These included eight additional wells for ENI Iraq and a 40-well award for another operator. In Saudi Arabia, all 25 rigs on the lump sum turnkey contracts are now fully operational. 90 wells have already been drilled, totaling almost 1.5 million feet. Full deployment has meant that asset efficiency and crew sizes can be optimized and new technologies evaluated for the performance improvements they bring. Times to drill each wells are beginning to shorten with one well being delivered in a record 16 days from spots to total depth. The success of our LSDK model has already led to a new contract award for further work, this time for a three-year contract with a two-year option for integrated rigless stimulation work. Stronger hydraulic fracturing activity in Oman and more wireline and testing exploration activity in the United Arab Emirates also contributed to our performance during the quarter. However, revenue decreased sequentially in the northern Middle East geomarket from lower one-service revenue in Kuwait and Egypt as projects were delivered. Revenue in the Far East Asia and Australia geomarket was higher sequentially due to increased drilling and well-construction activity in China, including the start-up of the SCP gas SPM project and strong shale gas activity in the Sichuan province. In the Southeast Asia geomarket, revenue increased in India from integrated drilling services contract with an additional seven wells drilled and improved performance. We also won a sizable tender from an NRC in the region for the provision of MI SWACO technology on more than 300 wells. Cameron revenue in the area was flat with the third quarter as increased service system sales in India were offset by reduced activity in Saudi Arabia and in the Far East Asia Australia geomarket. In Europe, CIS and Africa, consolidated revenue increased 1% sequentially despite the seasonal activity decline in Russia and the North Sea. This effect was partially offset by SIS year-end software sales. Area revenue also benefited from sustained activity growth in the Sub-Sahara Africa geomarket and year-end software and product sales in Angola, Mozambique, Gabon and West Africa. The project pipeline is building across this region and multiple deep water rigs are scheduled to mobilize in the first half of 2019. Higher revenue was posted by the North Africa geomarket from new drilling projects in Algeria and the start of both a well intervention project in Libya and operations in Chad. In the North Sea, activity in Norway was flat with only minor seasonal impact. Our performance was strong and integrated projects. In continental Europe exploration and drilling in Turkey, Bulgaria and Greece increased while drilling in Austria and Germany offset weaker activity in the Netherlands. Revenue in the Latin America area was flat sequentially. In the Mexico and Central America geomarket, revenue declined due to lower Western GECO multi-client seismic license sales following the strong performance in the previous quarter. On the positive side, we won additional integrated awards in Mexico, including integrated drilling services and integrated services management contracts that will start up in the first quarter of 2019. In Latin America South, intervention and exploration work for international oil companies was sustained while in Brazil, Equinor awarded Slumberge a total well delivery contract for 22 wells. Revenue in the Latin America North geomarket was flat sequentially. And in Ecuador, the Shia SPM project achieved record production of almost 70,000 barrels per day in December on increased activity and the new water flood field development strategy. In Venezuela, where activity was also flat sequentially, the situation degraded further with production continuing to decline in an environment where inflation is accelerating and international banks are increasing restrictions. On a final note, 1subC booked orders were strong during the second half of the year with more than 600 million booked during the fourth quarter. Many orders came from multiple repeat customers awarding smaller projects. However, due to the sizable install base, this provides a solid platform for growth. 1subC awards projects from Equinor, Chevron, Esso and Woodside. The Equinor contract is for the industry's first all electric actuated boosting system for the VicDIS field scheduled for first delivery in 2020. Also in the quarter, the Subsea Integration Alliance, a venture formed by 1subC and Subsea7 delivered the longest deep water multiphase boosting tieback of 22 miles in the shortest implementation time on Murphy Oils, Dalmatian development in the US Gulf of Mexico. Similarly, the Subsea Integration Alliance delivered a record breaking 18 mile tieback in the UK North Sea sector for Taka in the Otterfield. And with that, let me pass the call

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

over to Paul. Thank you, Patrick. Starting off with the industry macro view, the significant drop in oil prices in the fourth quarter was driven largely by the US shale production surprising to the upside as a result of the surge in activity earlier in the year. And by geopolitics negatively impacting global supply and demand balance sentiments. The combination of these factors together with a large sell off in the equity markets due to concerns around global growth and increasing US interest rates created a near perfect storm to close out 2018. Looking forward to 2019, we expect the supply and demand balance sentiment and the oil prices to improve over the course of the year. As the OPEC and Russia cuts take full effect, the lower activity in North America land in the second half of 2018 impacts production growth. The dispensations from the Iran export sanctions expire and are not renewed. And as the US and China continue to work towards a solution to their ongoing trade dispute. So far in January, brand oil prices are already up around $10 supporting this improving outlook. Not surprisingly, the recent oil price volatility has introduced less visibility and more uncertainty around the EMP spend outlook for 2019. With customers generally taking a more conservative approach to the start of the year. Again, delaying the broad based recovery in EMP spend that we expected only three months ago. However, from our customer discussions, we are seeing clear signs of EMP investment sentiments starting to normalize in the various parts of the world and heading towards the more sustainable financial stewardship of the global resource base. In the international markets outside the Middle Eastern Russia, this means that of the four years of under investment and focus on maximizing short term cashflow, the NOCs and independents are starting to see the need to invest in their resource base simply to maintain production at current levels. At present, the underlying decline from the aging production base in key oil producing countries like Norway, UK, Brazil and Nigeria are being offset by new project startups, as well as more exploration activity providing solid growth opportunities for our business in the coming year. We are also seeing the start of new investment programs in countries like Mexico, Angola, Indonesia and China, where total production has already been in noticeable decline for several years. Now supporting the activity recovery for our product lines also in these regions. Based on this oil market backdrop, we still expect solid year over year revenue growth in the international markets in 2019, starting off in the mid single digits for the first half of the year, as our customers take a conservative approach due to the recent oil price volatility. Growth rates will be led by Africa, Asia and Latin America as new investment programs are kicked off in these regions, while we continue to see solid but more nominal growth rates in the North Sea, Russia and the Middle East as existing activity and projects continue to expand. Conversely, for the North America land EMP operators, higher cost of capital, lower borrowing capacity and investors looking for capital discipline and increased return of capital suggest that future EMP investments will likely be at levels much closer to what can be covered by free cashflow. Assuming the trend of increased capital discipline continues in 2019 and WTI oil prices steadily recover to average the same realized level as 2018, we expect EMP investments in US land to be flat, to slightly down compared to 2018, with a relatively slow start to the year. In this scenario, it is likely that the EMP operators would gradually lower drilling activity and instead focus investments on drawing down the large inventory of drilled or completed wells. This approach would still drive production growth from US land in 2019, but likely at a substantially lower rate than the 1.9 million barrels per day seen in 2018 and potentially with a further reduction in the growth rate in 2020. It is also worth noting that with the continued growth in US shale production, an increasing percentage of the new wells drilled are being consumed to offset the steep decline from the existing production base. The third party analysis shows that in 2018, this number was 54% of total capex and is expected to increase to 75% in 2021, clearly demonstrating the unavoidable treadmill effect of shale oil production. Add to this the emerging challenges of production per well as infill drilling creates interference between parent and child wells as drilling steadily steps out from the core tier one acreage and as the growth in lateral length and problem per stage is starting to plateau, we could be facing a more moderate growth in US shale production in the coming years than what the most optimistic views have been suggesting. From a 2019 US land activity standpoint, we expect a slow but steady recovery of hydraulic fracturing work over the course of the year, although with a lingering impact of the pricing reset that took place in the fourth quarter of 2018. For drilling, we expect some impacts to our US land business from a potentially lower rig count. However, our high tech drilling business remains sold out and is still at a relatively low market penetration and should therefore be quite insulated from a lower rig activity. And for our US artificial lift business, which operates at a 12 to 18 month lag from the hydraulic fracturing business, we are expecting a solid year for both our ESP and road lift technologies. With a lower rate of production growth from US shale together with the cuts from OPEC and Russia and no major change to the current global demand picture, we expect to see global inventory growth in the second half of 2019, supporting an improving sentiment for the global supply demand balance. In this market environment, we have built significant flexibility into our operating plan for 2019, giving us the means and confidence to effectively tackle any investment and activity scenario. In terms of capital allocations, field equipment CAPEX will be in the range of $1.5 to $1.7 billion, which together with the OPEC and efficiency derived capacity gains from our transformation program will be sufficient to handle the range of activity growth we expect to see in the OPEC. Multi-client investments will be flat with 2018 and we will continue to seek significant customer pre-funding for the projects we decide to take on. Lastly, our SPM investments will be down by around $200 million in 2019 and we will produce positive free cash flow from our SPM business for the second consecutive year while we continue to discuss monetization opportunities with interested parties. In the SPM&A, we do not foresee any significant consumption of cash in 2019. Needless to say, the foundation for our 2019 plans is a clear commitment to generate sufficient cash flow to cover all our business needs without increasing net debt. After a very strong free cash flow performance in the second half of 2018, where we generated $1 per share in the fourth quarter alone, we are confident in our ability to further improve on this in 2019 through our focus on international top-line growth with improving incremental margins, continued capital discipline and careful management of working capital. With the changes relating to the corporate transformation program and the organizational streamlining now well behind us, the entire Slumersy organization is fully primed and ready for the business opportunities and challenges that lays ahead. With a clear objective of clearly exceeding the expectations of all our stakeholders. Thank you, we will now open up for questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star, then one on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone indicating you have been placed in queue. You may remove yourself from this queue at any time by pressing the pound key. Our first question is from the line of James West with Evercore ISI, please go ahead.

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James West
Analyst at Evercore ISI

Hey, good morning, Paul. Good morning, James. So Paul, a lot of good financial positives that we're looking at, strong free cash flow, the lower 2019 capex, heavy pre-funding for multi-client. I especially loved Simon's comment on profit versus cash. It seems to me there's a large dichotomy developing in the market, but it looks like you and probably your largest competitor are very much returns focused, whereas, and particularly international markets, whereas the North American market seems to have almost an unbelievable lack of discipline in here. I guess the question is, one, is that a fair characterization of your strategy and kind of how you see the differences in the big international market versus North America? And then two, are you comfortable that with the capital previously spent, you can handle the contracts that are coming your way and that you haven't starved the asset base, particularly internationally?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, thanks for the question, James. So starting over the first part, I think it's a fair representation of our strategy and how we look at things. We have always been disciplined in terms of how we deploy capital, but I think the last four or five years have made us, I think, further elevate the focus and the approach we take to this. We've obviously have very clear benefits now from having done a lot of work around the transformation program, which allows us firstly to drive down our working capital as a percentage of revenue, which is basically, I think, an all-time low now, at the same time as we can be a lot more prudent in terms of what capex we need to spend to take off new work and higher activity. So from our standpoint, this is along the plans of what we have been working on in recent years, and I'm very happy to see this coming to fruition now. And obviously, driving programs that focus on efficiency are a lot more effective and visible when you have some growth. If you are flat or you're declining, these are obviously less visible. So this is the first year, 2019, that we are seeing growth in the international market since 2014. So we are ready for this, and you are right in pointing out that we are very focused on the capital discipline, but at the same time, we also have the capability firstly to scale the level of investments. We are working very actively on drawing down the lead times for things like new equipment and so forth. But at the same time, we have the ability now to drive our effective capacity, not only through capex. The underlying efficiency in how we turn our tools and also the utilization we have of our field workforce is steadily improving. And we also have through the modernization program, the opportunity to actually increase effective capacity through OPEX investments, which are, they have a lot shorter lead time, and they're also a lot more scalable up and down, which is highly needed in our cyclical business. So I fully agree with what you point out, and we are very much focused on continuing along this direction. Okay, that's great

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James West
Analyst at Evercore ISI

to hear, Paul. And then you had made some comments towards the early last year, and even towards the end of the year, that you would effectively be sold out of capacity internationally by the Innovate team based on contract awards. Is that still the case? And so that what we see today is a much tighter utilization of assets internationally could lead to some pricing power in 19th?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, I think we are for the high-end product lines and the high-tech offering around those lines. We are more or less sold out at present. And I think it's safe to assume that a large part of the capex budget for 2019 is gonna be focused in on making sure we do have enough capacity to take on that work. But absolutely, I think there are going to be opportunities to get pricing in markets where we are at balance capacity-wise, and also where the technology and the performance that we bring value to our customers. So I think we need to have that as a basis for the discussions. And I think we are starting to see opportunities around the world to now continue to have those discussions as we go into 2019. Great, thank you. And I would also just point out, James, that actually a significant part of the drop in the capex investments between 2018 and 19 is actually North America. So there's no really significant drop in our allocations towards international. Okay, perfect. Thank you, Paul. Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Next, we go to a line of Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

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Scott Gruber
Analyst at Citigroup

Yes, good morning. Good morning. So as we sized up the growth potential abroad, one important inflection that our team forecast was actually an increase in spending by the majors abroad for the first time this cycle. In the release, you mentioned spending increases by NOCs and independents, but there wasn't a mention of increase by the majors on the international front. Paul, what's your outlook for spending by this group outside the US? Do you see them increasing capex as well? And if you do, roughly how much? And just in general, do you sense any greater urgency by this group to improve the reserve replacement ratio, which has been quite low, as you know, over the past few years?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, in the commentary, we did highlight the NOCs and the independents because that's where we have most clarity around plans and where we see the most visible programs being in place. I still expect that there will be some increase on the IOCs. At present, they are a little bit less visible and maybe a little bit less pronounced, but I'm sure that all our customers are continuing to kind of work through their budgets and look at their plans and opportunities. And the IOCs have, I'm sure, plenty of opportunities to ramp up spend if they decide to. Some of the IOCs are already quite active in new areas, and we're obviously working closely with them, right? So I think for me, it's more lack of visibility at present for me to point out our IOCs. We have a very close working relationship with them, and I'm sure that for the right opportunities, they might also increase their investments. But what stands out where we have pretty clear visibility at present is the NOCs and the independents.

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Scott Gruber
Analyst at Citigroup

Yeah, and I may have missed this in the prepared remarks, but how should we think about the budget for SPM in 2019? I heard the free cash positive outlook, which is great to hear, so it sounds like it's coming down, but how should we think about it?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, like I said in the prepared remarks, our CapEx investments for SPM is down by about 200 billion to roughly 800 million, and this is a combination of several of our projects maturing, reaching more of a plateau stage. Some of the investments that we've made have been very effective, and they're also obviously scrutinizing every dollar we spend in all parts of the business, including SPM. So there's nothing dramatic in it coming down other than that there's been successful deployments of programs on many of the projects, as well as we are very prudent on how we allocate capital. Got it, thank you. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Next, we have a question from Kurt Hallid with RBC. Please go ahead.

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Kurt Hallid
Analyst at RBC

Hey, good morning. Good morning. So thanks for all the color here. I think my follow-up I had was when you think about the opportunity set in the international market and you kind of reference the type of customer base, so I'm wondering, Paul, if you can kind of give us a general rank order of what regions you see offering the highest growth in 2019. Maybe talk about the top three or four markets, and again, that could be outside of the Middle East and Russia, because I think you expect those probably be the best growth areas. So any color on that would be helpful.

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Okay, so I think I'll split it into two buckets here, where if you look at our business today, compared to say 2014, where we still have by far the highest revenue and activity compression, it is in Latin America, it is in Africa, and it is in Asia. Both the North Sea, Russia, and the Middle East have invested much more sustainably through the downturn we've been through. So actually it's very clear to us where the highest growth rate is coming from, and that is in Latin America, it's in Africa, and it's in Asia. So very solid growth rates coming from these regions. Now we're also expecting growth from the North Sea, the Middle East, and Russia, but at a lower rate, but in spite of the lower rate, we have very significant presence in these regions, big businesses, so in terms of earnings contributions, it's actually quite meaningful even from these regions, although the actual growth rate is somewhat lower than what we see in Latin America, Africa, and Asia.

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Kurt Hallid
Analyst at RBC

Okay, great. And then, you know, a significant emphasis on free cash flow generation and prudent use of capital. So in the context of that, when you factor in CapEx, dividends, SPM, and investment in multi-client data, to what extent do you expect to be generating positive cash after those expenditures in 19? Yes, Simon,

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Simon Iac
Chief Financial Officer

you wanna take that? Yeah, sure, okay. Look, I will probably repeat a little bit what I said in my comment. So you saw that the Q4 was extremely strong cash flow. It is what we expected and what we planned. Maybe it came a little bit surprised to other people, but we have always expected to make this cash flow. We made, during the year, some exceptional payment, mainly in the severance of about 340. When you factor back these in, we produce enough cash to return capital. We get some also proceeds from optionees and some of our plans, like discounted stock purchase plan that bring back. So we see 2019 as good as 2019, if not better. As we said, that we will meet all our commitments without increasing our net debt. This will be mostly a free cash flow. Our working capital at a very significantly low, as compared to what we have done before. During the quarter, we improved receivables by over $500 million. So just back on, for your question about 2019, yes, 2019, we're going to meet all our commitment and probably we'll do better than what we expected.

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Kurt Hallid
Analyst at RBC

Yeah, appreciate that. Paul, may you want to follow up in the past? You've been willing to provide some qualitative commentary about where you think, you know, slummer's days headed -a-vis the street consensus numbers. So be willing to take a whack at that for both first quarter 19 and for all of 19?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

No, I'm not going to take a whack at the full year of 2019. What I would say directionally on 2019 is that we do expect solid growth in the international. We expect in North America that investments, you know, totally MP investments to be, you know, I think it's going to be a fairly tough year in North America. The impact of this on earnings, I think it's too early to say. I think we're going to have to just monitor that closely and be ready to act and deal with it. But I mean, for us, the main focus at this stage now is to capitalize on the growth opportunities international. And we also see the long cycle businesses of Cameron, I think troughing in the first half of the year. And we should start to get some overall positive contributions from Cameron, you know, in terms of growth rate in the second half of this year. So full year, the main, I think, direction is solid growth internationally, a bit of challenges in North America land which we are fully equipped to handle. Now for Q1, normally we see about a 10 to 15% drop in EPS from Q4 to Q1. This is typically due to the seasonal slowdown, due to winter weather. And also we have generally lower product sales in the first quarter after the surge, typically in the fourth. Now for Q1 of 19, we expect to be in the low end of this range. Now we're going to have the normal impact of winter, but we're going to see the continued growth in parts of international, which I think is continuing in from the relatively strong performance we saw in Q4. This is likely going to be offset by a relatively slow start to US land, but on the positive, I think we'll see a lower sequential impact from product sales, given that the year in effect was quite low in Q4. So I would say sequential into Q1 in the low range of the historical drop in EPS, and then we should, and obviously Q1 should be the lowest quarter of 2019. And again, growth sequentially and year over year is going to be driven by Latin America, Africa and Asia.

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Kurt Hallid
Analyst at RBC

That's excellent. Thank you so much. Appreciate it.

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Next, we have a question from Bill Herbert with Piper Jaffrey Simmons. Please go ahead. Good morning,

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Bill Herbert
Analyst at Piper Jaffrey Simmons

Paul. Morning. With regard to M&A, you mentioned no significant M&A in 2019. Where do you stand with regard to the acquisition of EDC at this stage?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

So where we stand is that we have satisfied all our obligations relating to the approval process for the transaction with the Russian authorities. We've been working on this now since we announced the transaction back in July of 2017. Now, unfortunately, we have not yet been able to obtain the needed regulatory approval from the Russian authorities. So our plan here is that we're going to make one final attempt and approach over the coming weeks. And if we see no clear path to obtaining the needed approvals, we are likely going to withdraw our application. But instead, we will seek alternative avenues in partnership with Eurasia Drilling to, again, further our participation in the conventional land drilling market in Russia, which we still see as very attractive. So basically, bottom line, we'll make one final attempt in the coming weeks. And if we are not successful there, we will likely withdraw.

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Bill Herbert
Analyst at Piper Jaffrey Simmons

Okay, thank you. And Patrick, with regard to the monetization of the SPM portfolio, this is not the most hospitable tape for oil. So I'm just curious as to what you think is the realistic timeline for dispositions of assets and order of magnitude.

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Patrick Sean
Executive Vice President Wells

Yeah, so I think that is a fair question, Bill. So clearly, this is something that we call continue to work on. And the program that we have currently, when you're talking about the sizable deals that would be visible to you, we have the full intent to conclude one in 19 and one in 20, the way it looks at this moment. And this is really talking about some of the largest projects that we have. There might be some smaller ones that might not necessarily make the headline, but significant ones count on one in 19 and one in 20. Some of that is related to where we are in the value generation in the field. And some of the fields that we have have some contractual limitations that make the timeline that I just mentioned the most appropriate one.

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Bill Herbert
Analyst at Piper Jaffrey Simmons

And when you say significant, what exactly does that mean? Just kind of a broad range of expectations.

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Patrick Sean
Executive Vice President Wells

So that means that would be fields that would be, for instance, the one that we have in Canada that could very well include the activity that we have in Argentina. So think about the Pellisar field, think about Banduria sewer, and there might be some North Africa ones and some smaller projects in there as well. But mainly the ones that we'll be focusing on is Canada and Argentina.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Okay, thank you.

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Patrick Sean
Executive Vice President Wells

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Next is the line of James Wickland with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

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James Wickland
Analyst at Credit Suisse

Good morning guys. Good morning. You have grown production to be about 35 to 40% of revenues. And this segment is the lowest margin business. It's 7% in the quarter down, I think, with 310 basis points. You noted the pricing reset in Q4 and US pressure pumping. And never in my career has the first cut to estimates in a slowdown been the only one. Can you give us an idea as to where production margins might go over the next several quarters, when they might bottom, and more importantly, what can they get up to in three to five years in a good market? What's the potential?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Good question. I would say that if you look at the margin performance of the production group, I think there are parts of it that we are, you know, I think, quite happy with. And I think there are other parts that we are actively working on improving. If you look at 2018, you know, we had, we carried significant costs surrounding the capacity deployment that we did in US land, which obviously impacted the total year margins. And as you point out, we are heading into some headwinds in US land on the production side going into 2019. But I would say that we have a lot of focus on it. We have, I think we know where the upsides are in terms of both our execution and how we handle all the commercial aspects of the business. So I would say to answer the second part of the question, first, you know, our production margins, you know, should for sure be in the double digits going forward. And I think, you know, I would say steadily improving from where it is today in the coming years, you know, with a caveat around, you know, what could happen over the next, you know, a couple of quarters in US land. But we have a very clear view on how we're gonna drive this upwards. And I think getting it into double digits is something that is an urgent priority for us. And there is a lot of work and thought that's gone into how we're going to do that.

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James Wickland
Analyst at Credit Suisse

Okay, thank you for that. And the pragmatic view that you guys are putting out today, I think is very positive. My follow-up, if I could, return on invested capital. We did a little screen here recently and there was only like eight companies out of 85 public oil field service companies that even earned their cost of capital in the trillion 12 months. And the trillion 12 months arguably may be, you know, the peak of results for a little while. You guys have championed for the last six years trying to get the industry to use different forms of contracting and payment. And I've got a whole industry that has round tripped market value in 16 years, basically tripling the value of the ENP industry and capturing none of the value for themselves. How does that change going forward? How does the industry, and you're the leader in the industry, how does the industry finally get to a point where they can earn their cost of capital at some points other than the peak of the seven-year cycle?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think the way we do that is to continue to drive forward firstly the underlying value and the performance of the service and the products that we sell to our customers. That's number one. But beyond that, I think it's a matter of having contractual arrangement, contractual terms, where we capture a fair value of what we generate. We have, you know... Are we making any progress

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James Wickland
Analyst at Credit Suisse

on

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

that? I think we are. I think we are. Obviously, in the commercial environment that we have been facing, it has been very difficult to translate all of this into visible improvements in return on capital employed. But if you look at the underlying performance of these key businesses, in particular in the international market, we continue to do well. And again, there is significant upside potential in terms of both how we are performing technically and again, how we convert that technical performance into commercial results through the contractual arrangements as well. So I think we have a good view on, again, what needs to happen. We have a good dialogue with our customer base. And there is a general shift in acceptance of moving towards these performance-based contracts, whether this is all the way up to lump-sum term key or it has smaller performance elements of it. So I think when the market, at least now internationally, stabilizes so that you have no longer pricing headwinds, if we can get into a stable pricing environment and improving technical performance, I believe we have the contractual framework and the contract base to start demonstrating to you and the rest of the investment community that this is gonna head in the right direction.

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James Wickland
Analyst at Credit Suisse

Paul, thank you very much. Appreciate it, guys. Thank you.

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you,

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Operator
Conference Operator

Jim. Our next question is from the line of Edward Mostefago with Societe General. Please go ahead.

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Edward Mostefago
Analyst at Societe General

Hi, guys. You know, appreciate a lot of the great insight you gave this call. One of the things I wanted to focus on, and we're trying to get our heads around a little bit here, is really the subsurface challenges that you've all highlighted in the US. And I think we're all starting to see in some of the production data now. The ability to offset this with technology, Paul, I'd like to maybe get your thought process as to whether you think the industry can or is on the cusp of another, we call it technology genesis, effectively figuring out the subsurface sauce a little bit better, and if that's a risk to the upside on production.

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think it's very clear from our standpoint that we believe there are technologies and innovations beyond just higher efficiency and doing things faster and using more of things to get higher production. I think there's a lot of other things that can be done. Things around subsurface measurements, understanding much more of the production dynamics, the rock itself and what's going on down the hall. We obviously invested in that for a number of years, and I think we started to get quite a good understanding of this. And then beyond that, I think a lot of it has to do with the conformity of the fracking that we do today. I mean, today there are, for every stage, there are perforation clusters that we likely are not reaching and fracking, and with that, you don't get the optimal conformity of how the fraction network propagates. So there is a lot of work already done, at least on our behalf, both on the subsurface understanding, as well as how you can put more science into how you design and do the down the hall part of the fracking, right? And I think with this, I think things like parent-child production interference for sure can be mitigated. And there are probably other things that can be done in terms of orientation on wells, in terms of completion technologies and so forth. So I think there is still a significant upside potential in technology deployment into the shale industry. And again, this is why we have continued to invest into this business in terms of having capacity, because if you want to be part of changing the outcome of the game, you need to be on the pitch playing. So I think it's a very good question on something that we continue to invest into and that we continue to engage with our customers on, in particular in US land.

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Edward Mostefago
Analyst at Societe General

Well, unfortunately, there's only a handful of companies that can do that, so that's good. I wonder if we can maybe shift gears a little bit to the offshore market as well. You know, certainly highlighted what you think the NOCs may do, given the commodity price backdrop, but also the fact that a number of these companies are really kind of facing the reserve cliff in not too many years ahead. Do you feel like the offshore market or the deep water market specifically is at the point where it largely is going to shake off the commodity price and we're going to continue to see the deep water recovery progress in 2019?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

The simple answer is yes. We're not going to have a dramatic surge in deep water activity. I think we have it down probably in between five to 10% increase in deep water drilling activity, which is a nice step in the right direction. I think what the operators that sits on these opportunities in offshore deep water, a lot of the focus is obviously now on tie back into existing infrastructure, which shortens the cash cycle. We mentioned several awards and several projects that we have done around this, you know, through our one subsidy product line. So we see a continuous kind of steady recovery in deep water. And I think even at the current oil prices of the $60 Brent, I think many of these projects are quite viable. I think where the potential nervousness has been in terms of investment is where is the floor. And I think what we have done over the past couple of years now at least is to establish, I think a fairly, fairly, you know, a visible floor at roughly $50 Brent. And I think with having that as a backdrop, I think more of the operators are prepared to make investments. And if they can make them shorter cycle by tying into existing production facilities, I think this is the trend we're seeing. And I think this is what driving the increased activity in deep water. Okay, thank you, Paul. Appreciate that. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Next, we go to line of Chase Mulvihill with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

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Chase Mulvihill
Analyst at Bank of America

Hey, good morning. I guess I'll follow up on kind of the technology adoption, you know, here in US Shale. Can you maybe just talk about how you've seen technology adoption, you know, over the past couple of quarters? And do you see more, you know, opportunity for technology on the completion side or the drilling side in Shale?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

We see opportunities actually in both. We have, you know, part of our CAPEX investments in 2018, we had a big priority and continuing to deploy high-end drilling technologies into US land. This is basically primarily driven by road to steerable deployment, but also with, I would say, purpose designed bits that goes together with our road to steerable systems. So there's a lot to be done in the, I think in the drilling space in terms of how fast we drill these super long laterals now, which is obviously getting more complicated to do. And just the simple motor solution, I think is obviously largely inferior compared to the high-end road to steerable systems. But at the same time on the on the fact side, I think there are a lot of things that can be done actually both on the surface and in down-haul. Surface is all about how we drive efficiency, how we use, I think, digital solutions to operate the entire frag spread. So we've done a lot of work in terms of software control and optimization on how we run the pumps, how we start up the pumps, how we drive reliability. At the same time down-haul, both in terms of the completion activity, how do we minimize the time we use in between each stage and also how do we get the conformity up in terms of hitting each perforation cluster and getting the maximum conductivity of the fracture. So we are seeing some uptake on this, but the penetration is still relatively low. But again, we continue to engage with our customers. And I think the performance is really what tells the story here. And we're starting to get more and more case studies around the success of the technologies that we deploy.

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Chase Mulvihill
Analyst at Bank of America

Do you think that the pricing strategy has to change, you know, to go to more towards performance-based to kind of see more technology adoption?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

In your side, I don't think we necessarily need a dramatic change to the commercial, you know, framework. That would probably take a bit more time. I think as long as, from our standpoint, as long as our customers, you know, are ready to see the value in what technology brings, and there is a reasonable sharing of the additional value that is created, we are happy to do that on a conventional type of contractual setup. So that's not a problem. I think the main thing is to demonstrate the value of the technology, and then having a reasonable, you know, split of the upside value between, you know, us who have been invested into the technology and the customer who gets the benefit.

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Chase Mulvihill
Analyst at Bank of America

Okay, one quick follow-up. You know, US Shale, you know, it just seems like there's going to be more scaling up and scaling down as we move forward. How does your strategy change as we kind of think about, you know, US Shale going forward, just given the cost of scaling up and scaling down?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

I think, you know, scaling up and scaling down is going to be a significant part of how you drive full-cycle returns, and being able to do that, like you say, cost effectively, I think is important. So I think for us, when we scale up, I think we will focus probably more on doing it in increments and having a view of, okay, what's the growth trajectory of this cycle, and then having, you know, plans in place to make a step change in activity, maybe rather than a steady, you know, increase over time, which is, in which case you carry a lot more cost with you continuously. The vertical integration, I think, is a key part of how we scale up and down. This has actually turned out to be a very good investment for us, and highly accretive in 2018 to our, you know, frac margins, and what we're doing here is, well, as we scale up, we will obviously use our own vertically integrated, you know, product and transportation system. However, in the downturn, in some cases, we can actually mothball a fair bit of this. The mothballing costs are quite low, and if other providers, although product and transportation are willing to sell it at, you know, way below cost price level, we will just buy it off the market in a down cycle. So I think we have a lot of flexibility, and we have built these plans with the eye of being able to effectively scale up and scale down, and thereby maximizing the full cycle returns. All

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Chase Mulvihill
Analyst at Bank of America

right, that's very helpful. Thanks, Paul.

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

And our final question is from the line of Sean Mecham with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

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Sean Mecham
Analyst at JPMorgan

Hi, thank you. Somewhat related, but maybe nearer term, could you just talk a little bit about specifically your plan to approach one STEM this year, balancing utilization versus pricing concessions, depending on how demand unfolds? And I'm just curious if there are scenarios in which you could end up stacking some fleets to preserve the price of the product, margins for the production group.

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, we've obviously warm stacked the number of fleets in the fourth quarter. We have brought back quite a few of them already as we speak, but beyond that, we have cold stack capacity also ready to go if activity dictates, right? But I think what you'll see at this stage now is we're gonna make sure that we focus 2019 on two things, and that is to have reasonable margins coming out of this business and to have very good cashflow. Those are the two priorities with where we stand today. And then we have ample capacity to pursue, I would say growth opportunities towards the backend of 19 into 2020. But again, we will probably look at doing this much more in increments, but we're gonna take a view on the market saying two to four quarters out, and we might activate a number of fleets in a short period of time and then stabilize operations and again, drive margins from that. So we have a lot of flexibility in the system of how we are going to attack this market. Initial focus now is operating margins and strong cashflow.

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Sean Mecham
Analyst at JPMorgan

That's helpful, thank you for that. And then thinking about your leading positions in some of the other parts of that market, so drilling services, cementing, can you talk about what your team is seeing in the field in terms of pricing pressure or your expectations for how those product lines gonna fold in 19?

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, in drilling, we haven't seen any real pricing pressure out of yet. We have seen a few rigs drop off here and there, mainly I think as some customers now we're taking a conservative spend approach to 2019, we'll probably prioritize drawing down their duck balance instead of drilling new wells, but nothing dramatic as of yet, a little bit impact on activity, nothing really on pricing drilling. And on the artificial lift side, really no impact on price. This product line operates at sort of a 12 to 18 month lag from the frac activity, so we actually expect to see a solid year on artificial lift in 2019.

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Sean Mecham
Analyst at JPMorgan

Great, thank you.

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Paul Kipsgaard
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, so before we close today's call, let me summarize the main messages. We expect solid year over year revenue growth in the international markets in 2019, despite customers likely taking a conservative approach to spending due to the recent oil price volatility. In North America on the other hand, the range of customer spending is probably more varied. We expect EMP investments on land in the US to be flat to slightly down compared to 2018 with a relatively slow start to the year. And finally, the foundation for our 2019 plan is a clear commitment to generate sufficient cashflow to cover all our business needs through continued capital discipline without increasing net debt. Thank you very much for listening in.

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Operator
Conference Operator

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