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Schlumberger N.V.
10/18/2024
Thank you, everyone, for standing by. Welcome to the third quarter SLB earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. If you would like to ask a question, you may press 1, then 0. You will hear acknowledgement that your line has been placed in queue. You may remove yourself from queue by repeating the same 1-0 command. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to James R. McDonald, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations and Industry Affairs. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Leah. Good morning, and welcome to the SLB Third Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call is being hosted from New York following our board meeting held earlier this week. Joining us on the call are Olivier Lepuche, Chief Executive Officer, and Stéphane Viguet, Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind all participants that some of the statements we'll be making today are forward-looking. These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to differ materially from those projected in these statements. For more information, please refer to our latest 10-K filing and other SEC filings, which can be found on our website. Our comments today also include non-GAAP financial measures. Additional details and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our third quarter press release, which is on our website. And finally, in conjunction with our proposed acquisition, SLB and ChampionX have filed materials with the SEC, including a registration statement with a proxy statement and prospectus. These materials can be found on the SEC's website or from the parties' websites. With that, I will turn the call over to Olivier.
Thank you, James. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us this morning. During the call, I will cover a few topics. I will start by reviewing our first quarter results. Then I will discuss how we are leveraging our differentiated market positioning, digital leadership, and operating efficiency to navigate the evolving macro environment. And finally, I will provide an update on our full year financial ambitions and our early outlook for 2025. Stefan will then provide additional details on our financial results and will open the line to your questions. Let's begin. SLB delivered strong third quarter results with continued margin expansion. Sequentially, although revenue was flat, we expanded our adjusted EBITDA margin by more than 50 basis points to 20.5%. 3.6 percent by driving efficiencies throughout the business, and we generated very strong free cash flow of $1.81 billion. In the international market, revenue remains steady sequentially, despite lower reactivity as commodity prices resulted in a more cautious approach to discretionary short-cycle spending. Demand for SLBs, digital products, and services continued to accelerate. And we saw continued growth in the Middle East and Asia, fueled by oil capacity expansions and strong gas activity, as well as offshore projects. Meanwhile, revenue in Europe and Africa was largely unchanged, as strong production and recovery activity in North Africa was offset by a decline in Latin America following a strong second quarter. Turning to North America, revenue increased 3% sequentially as higher offshore activity in the Gulf of Mexico was partially offset by lower drilling activity in U.S. land as the market remained constrained by gas prices and ongoing capital discipline by operators. Next, let me touch on the performance of the divisions. In digital and integration, we delivered strong sequential growth led by our digital business, which reached a new quarterly revenue high. We also continue to increase profitability, expanding our pre-tax segment operating margins to 36% driven by our digital revenue and cost optimization. Overall, our digital business remains on pace to achieve full year revenue growth in the high teens, and we announced a number of exciting new products and partnerships during the quarter that I will discuss a little later in today's call. Turning to the core divisions, production system continues to grow. benefiting from long-cycle development activity, particularly in the Middle East and Asia and in the Gulf of Mexico. I was proud to see that most production system business lines contributed to this performance as we continued to secure sizable bookings while also increasing our backlog for the future. Reservoir performance remained steady, supported by stable production and recovery spending, and well construction declined slightly due to weaker land activity in North America and international markets. Overall, These results demonstrate SLB's unique ability to navigate the evolving market by leveraging our differential international and offshore positioning, our broad technology portfolio, and our continued focus on capital discipline and operating efficiency. I want to thank the SLB team for continuing to deliver for our customers and shareholders in this dynamic environment. I'm extremely proud of their contribution and dedication to our performance strategies. Next, I wanted to share some updates on our progress in digital. We delivered an over quarter of strong digital growth as operators continue to increase their investment in digital technology to reduce cycle times and risk, enhance productivity, lower cost and carbon, and accelerate returns. This is presenting opportunities for high margin growth. And we have taken a leading role in this space, partnering with our customers to accelerate their transition to the cloud, scaling new technology for drilling and production operations, and creating new markets by developing disruptive solutions for data and AI. As part of this journey, we hosted a digital forum in September, where we brought more than 1,000 customers and partners to innovate solutions and shape our shared digital future. During this event, we launched the Lumi data and AI platform, which will accelerate advanced data and generative AI capabilities at scale for SLB customers across the energy value chain. Today, we offer approximately 150 AI and machine learning capabilities across our product and solutions, and we continue to work for customers and partners to innovate and deploy new ones. We also unveiled a number of cross-industry announcements during the forum. These include a collaboration with NVIDIA to develop generative AI solution for energy, as well as a partnership with Amazon Web Services to expand access to application from the Delphi platform and to evaluate decarbonization solution for Amazon digital infrastructure. Each of these agreements helps to expand our capability set and positions SLB as a key partner in digital and sustainability across the industry. Next, let me discuss the macro environment. Over the past few months, community prices have been under pressure. This is largely due to concern of an oversupplied market, driven by higher output from non-OPEC Plus producers, uncertainty around OPEC Plus supply releases, weaker demand from China, and softer economic growth rates in the U.S. and Europe. This has resulted in a cautionary approach to activity and discussion is spent by many customers, as highlighted in our third quarter results. Despite these evolving market conditions, we believe the long-term fundamental for oil and gas remain in place. The demand for energy is increasing, and energy security remains a global priority, as witnessed by recent commodity prices fluctuation tied to geopolitical tension in the Middle East. In this environment, gas will continue to play an increasing role in the energy transition, while oil remains a large part of the energy mix for decades to come. Internationally, gas investment remains strong, particularly in Asia, the Middle East, and the North Sea, and is expected to grow regardless of OPEC Plus decisions on oil production. Meanwhile, whereas short-cycle oil investment has been more challenged, long-cycle deepwater projects globally and most capacity expansion projects in the Middle East remain economically and strategically favorably. Specific to North America, we do not see U.S. activity rebounding in the near term, and any potential increases in gas rigs could be quickly offset by a further decline in oil rigs due to increased operating efficiency. Overall, we expect this to result in a sustained level of global upstream investment in the years to come with the secular trends of digital and industry decarbonization extending the investment horizons. SLV is well positioned to navigate in this evolving macro environment through a differential portfolio and multiple strategic across core, digital, and new energy. With that background, let me conclude my opening remarks by sharing outlook for the full year 2024 and our early thoughts regarding 2025. Specific to the fourth quarter, we expect muted revenue growth with a favorable mix of year-end digital and product sales partially offset by E&P budget exhaustion in U.S. land and cautious discussion expanding from certain international customers. And with continued cost optimization, we anticipate we will deliver EBITDA margin expansion in the fourth quarter. For the full year 2024, ongoing margin expansion will enable us to deliver full-year adjusted EBITDA margins at or above 25%. Additionally, our strong cash flows, coupled with the announced sale of the Palisade asset in Canada, will support increased returns to our shareholders. In 2025, we see the potential for upstream spending in the international market to grow in the low to mid-single digits, while North America's spending will be flat to slightly down. This directional outlook will depend on the geopolitical environment and commodity prices, and will share an updated view in January after we receive more feedback on customer budgets. In conclusion, SAB remains well positioned to deliver strong financial results as an optimized cost structure, portfolio rationalization, differentiated exposure to key international and offshore markets, and digital leadership will support further margin expansion, higher cash generation, and increased returns to shareholders. I will now turn the call over to Stéphane.
Thank you, Olivier, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Third quarter earnings per share, excluding charges and credits, was 89 cents. This represents an increase of 4 cents sequentially and 11 cents or 14%, when compared to the third quarter of last year. During the quarter, we recorded $0.02 of merger and integration charges relating to the hacker subsea and ChampionX transactions, and $0.04 of charges in connection with the program we started last quarter to realign and optimize the support and service delivery structure in certain parts of our organizations. Overall, our third quarter revenue of $9.2 billion was essentially flat sequentially. However, the third quarter represented another quarter of both sequential and year-on-year margin expansion, despite revenue growth rates moderating. These improvements were driven by very strong digital and integration margins, combined with the effect of the cost optimization program I just mentioned. Additionally, the resilient, long-cycle production systems business continued its top-line growth and margin improvement journey, benefiting from its strong backlog. Sequentially, our pre-tax segment operating margin expanded 48 basis points to 20.8%. Companywide adjusted EBITDA margin increased 55 basis points to 25.6%, representing the highest level since the first quarter of 2016. Let me now go through the third quarter results for each division. Third quarter digital and integration revenue of 1.1 million increased 4% sequentially. with margins expanding 456 basis points to 35.5%. The sequential revenue growth was entirely due to higher digital sales as APS revenue was flat. The strong margin performance was driven by improved digital profitability as a result of the higher uptake of new digital solutions, and the optimization of our digital support and delivery structure. Reservoir performance revenue of $1.8 billion was flat sequentially as higher intervention activity in international markets was offset by lower evaluation revenue in Latin America and the Middle East. Margins contracted 53 basis points due to the unfavorable technology mix. Well construction revenue of 3.3 billion decreased 3% sequentially on lower rig count in U.S. land and Saudi, and the completion of drilling projects in certain offshore markets. Margins decreased 19 basis points as a result of the lower activity. Finally, production systems revenue of 3.1 billion increased 3% sequentially driven by higher sales of surface production systems, completions, and artificial lift, led by North America and the Middle East and Asia. Margins expanded 110 basis points to 16.7% on improved profitability in artificial lift, completions, surface, and midstream production systems. With regard to our liquidity, Our cash flow performance during the third quarter was very strong, as we generated $2.4 billion of cash flow from operations and free cash flow of $1.8 billion. This represents a $1 billion increase in free cash flow as compared to last quarter, largely due to significant customer collections. Capital investments, inclusive of CAPEX and investments in APS projects and exploration data, were $644 million in the first quarter. For the full year, we are still expecting capital investments to be approximately $2.6 billion. On the M&A front, as announced yesterday, I am pleased to report that we have signed a definitive agreement to sell our interests in the Palliser APS project in Canada. This transaction will reduce our direct exposure to commodity prices and the associated earnings volatility, as well as reduce our capital intensity. It also allows us to eliminate significant future abandonment liabilities. Under the terms of the agreement, we will receive cash proceeds of approximately $430 million, subject to closing adjustments that are typical for such a transaction. This transaction will also result in us removing asset retirement obligations from our balance sheet with a present value of approximately $280 million. This transaction, which is subject to regulatory approvals and over customary closing conditions, is expected to close before the end of this year. Turning to the pending ChampionX acquisition. The integration teams on both sides have been working together closely, and we are extremely pleased with the progress they are making. We now anticipate the transaction to more likely close in the first quarter of 2025. Finally, total returns to shareholders in the form of stock repurchases and dividends was approximately $2.4 billion on a year-to-date basis. During the third quarter, we repurchased 11.3 million shares for a total purchase price of $501 million. As a result of our strong cash flow performance, we expect to maintain this level of buyback in the fourth quarter. Consequently, we will exceed our previous commitment to return $3 billion to our shareholders in 2024. Furthermore, we reaffirm that we will return a minimum of $4 billion to shareholders in 2025, reflecting our confidence in our ability to continue generating strong cash flows. I will now turn the conference call back to Olivier. Thank you, Stéphane.
Ladies and gentlemen, we'll open the floor to your questions.
And ladies and gentlemen, just as a reminder, you may press 1-0 to place your line into queue. And our first question is from James West with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, Olivier and Stéphane. Olivier, obviously more muted top-line growth as we go through 2025. It's kind of expected here, but you guys have a lot of initiatives underway that will drive, I think, margin journey, margin expansion journey, I guess is a better way to put it. Could you talk about some of the drivers there and how you see – Maybe you or Stefan, how you see that unfolding as we go through the year. I know you don't want to give too many specifics yet on the year, given that budgets are being quantified, but just maybe help us a little bit on how this could unfold.
Yeah, good question.
Thank you, James. Yes, indeed, we have the ambition to maintain our margin expansion journey as we enter 2025, our exit race of 2024 with the results we have delivered in Q3, the ambition we have and the statement we have made on further expansion in the fourth quarter will bode very well as we enter 2025 to start the year with a kick, if I may. And now looking forward, I think the guidance at this point, market spent, will indicate that there will benefit from another year of international growth outpacing North America, which again plays in our favor from the margin mix. And obviously, the combination of our digital technology, our technology premium will continue to play favorably as we accelerate technology introduction and continue the journey and ambition we have on the digital to reach approximately 3 billion under our hands in over a year of strong growth. And finally, I think we have initiated some cost out and operating efficiency focus for our team, entire team. And this is already falling through into our results. And I expect this to take full scale in 2025.
Got it. Okay, great. And then now that we're a little over a month out from your digital forum that you held recently, Could you maybe share some of your initial thoughts on the success of the forum? It seemed to me at least that the uptake in digital, clearly you just mentioned $3 billion in revenue for next year, but digital uptake is accelerating and the quality of the digital uptake, not just going to cloud, but also using all the AI tools is accelerating as well. But I wanted to get your thoughts You know, now that we've gotten them on the way, your thoughts on that?
No, fair. I think, first, I'm very pleased to report that this was most likely on many aspects our best forum ever. And from the size, the scale of the attendance, the number of partners that came to join us, the number of customers that came and displayed their own technology. I think we're having the opportunity, we had the opportunity to show the digital value proposition we offer to the industry across the different domains from geoscience subsurface to operations. Showing that we have an integrated platform, open platform approach with partners and we are extending our technology from the historical on-prem to cloud, edge, and now AI, including GenAI. So I think this resulted into not only a realization by many customers that we can impact all aspects of the operation, unlock value in productivity in the geosound space, in operation for performance, and in reducing cost and carbon going forward. The pickup, if any, that I have is that this market, in terms of time, will expand going forward, will accelerate the expansion as customers realize that there is maturity into offering, there is maturity into the partnership ecosystem that we have developed, and there is opportunity for them to capture this as they want to extract efficiency, as they want to be more competitive. And I believe that our opportunity here is to accelerate the adoption of the toolbox that we have invested in the last 10 years to particularly benefit from digital operation. There is one domain that I think has really blossomed in the last 18 months is digital operation in production, in drilling, autonomous operation, optimization, edge AI application that are really game-changing the way we can perform with our customers, and that's where I see the future. So longer term, going beyond the cycle, growing for the long term as a business for us. Thanks very much.
Thank you, James.
Next question we have is from David Anderson with Barclays. Please go ahead.
Hi, good morning, Olivier. Good morning, Connie.
So your customers are being more cautious, though you're saying larger projects are still moving ahead. It seems pretty clear the cycle is kind of plateauing here. International spending, you're saying, now is low, mid to single digits next year. But, you know, if we look at the prior cycle, the second half of that was really driven by sustained deepwater development. So my question is, do you think deepwater can once again be a driver of growth, say, beyond 25%? There's something like $300 billion in FIDs the last few years. You just announced a slew of Petrobras awards today, and now you have Namibia and Suriname on the horizon. So my question is, is that enough to drive growth's overall spending higher, or is it just really a function of the oil prices need to structurally improve in order to kind of get this cycle kind of re-accelerating?
Yeah, I think you have seen the realization that when community price is under pressure, there is some pressure on short cycle that is suppressed, and that may come back and will come back as soon because it impacts in-field drilling, it impacts intervention activity, it impacts short cycle unconvention in some regions, but it will most likely come back as soon as the community price regains traction. But the long cycle, apart from some decision on timing and project execution, have been untouched. And we have had a year of strong exploration activity that has unlocked a new reserve that has appraised a new future pipeline of deep water, as you have heard and seen, across America, across South Africa, across the East Mediterranean, across Asia, where gas is critical. And the combination of these As you know, it's representing every year. This year, I think the total offshore FID will approach $100 billion. And we expect that this rate of $100 billion FID for offshore will remain at that level or higher for the next two or three years. So the cumulative over 23 to 26 FIDs of offshore will exceed $500 billion of offshore FID, and that's a sign that this project will execute beyond 25, beyond 26, and will be a growth engine for the industry going forward.
That's great to hear. Also great to hear is the sale of the PowerShare block. Glad to put that behind us, and now we can kind of focus much more on the digital business, of course, And I guess one of the things that you had talked about at that forum was how digital has been accretive to growth and margins going forward, and clearly it's been that way already. So you're well on your way to hitting your $3 billion target already next year, and naturally I have to ask you what's next. I don't think you're ready to give out the new target yet, otherwise you probably would have already done that. But I guess what I'm just wondering about is where do you see that growth coming from? You just talked about starting on that production side, so maybe that's another leg of growth. But a big part of this has been coming from the well construction. And I'm wondering if deep water can be also a huge driver of the digital business going forward.
It is already. I think we are already deploying a well construction automation and optimization autonomous operation in some offshore rigs and making huge difference when the cost of rig operation matters. And this is something that will unlock the future. But I think I will split it in three categories. I think you have a platform transition, cloud transition that has happened that affects the more than 1,000, 1,500 customers we have, and it's a long transition that will continue to happen, one customer at a time, cloud transition that will continue to drive our Delphi adoption across our customer space in Joe's house, and we'll continue to see this affecting and being a long cycle, a long tail of growth for years to come. as a driver. The second is, as you mentioned, as I mentioned, the digital operation, be it in production and drilling, with the emergence of edge application, the emergence of autonomous optimization application. And this is both seen by the digital services that are core our core division are offering, well construction, production system and reserve apartments with having a much success with this digital offering that they are putting on the back of our Delphi. And we see it into the pickup of our production and drilling operation capability by the customers themselves. And finally, And the third leg of growth in our digital portfolio is the emergence of new data and AI capability. As you have seen, the Lumi that we have put in place. So we combine these three over the future horizon. This will continue to be digital. As a consequence, we continue to be a growing time for us and will be an engine of growth. that will be accretive to the top line and will deliver accretive margin to the company. So that's the way we see it, and I will not at this point set the target for what is next, but we'll continue to see growth beyond 2025 with this context.
Great. Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Our next question is from Scott Gruber with Citigroup. Please go ahead.
Yes, good morning. I'm glad to hear that you still see some growth next year. I want to ask a question where we try to separate operating leverage that results from growth from other margin drivers. So if we assume that upstream spending is flattish for the next three years, is there a certain level of margin expansion that you think you could achieve through further cost optimization and further growth in digital? I assume that you would challenge the organization to continue expanding margins in a flat backdrop. Just curious what that potential rate of margin improvement could be.
Oh, yes. First, we do see not only in Q4 and into 2025 further margin expansion on that upstream spending outlook. And as you actually mentioned, it comes from several components. It comes primarily, I would say, from the mix of activities in our various divisions. As Olivier indicated, digital is a booster to our overall company margins. Technology mix, performance contract or performance in general pushes margins as well. And yes, there's a There's an element of cost optimization, not only from the program we started at the end of last quarter, sorry, at the beginning of last quarter of Q3, but also from our continuous focus on cost. We will continue to adjust delivery resources based on level activities, and we will continue to look for further optimization in our structure, so it's It's a mix of all these components that will continue to push our margins into 2025. Got it.
And Stéphane, how would the financials be impacted by the Palliser sale? How much EBITDA comes out and how much CapEx comes out?
Yeah, so we on Palliser, we generate approximately 500 million of revenue per year. on the asset. And this comes with pre-tax margins in the high 30s. Now you mentioned something very important. It also removes quite a bit of investment that we need to inject every year to maintain these numbers. So the capex is about 150 million per year. And as I mentioned as well in my prepared remark, something not to underestimate is removing future abandonment liabilities, which which discounted are about $280 million, but undiscounted are close to a billion dollars. So it's a good thing this is going away from our balance sheet and NTNL, and it will reduce both earnings, volatility, and capital intensity.
Appreciate the call. Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you.
Next, we go to Arun Jayaram with JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Yeah, good morning.
Olivier, you framed that you're seeing a little bit of cautiousness in some of the short cycle markets, North America, international oil, with some resiliency and long cycle gas and deep water opportunities. I was wondering how would you characterize the current pricing dynamics internationally just relative to your expectations of margin expansion from here?
I think we believe that the pricing environment is still positive, constructive, I would say. I think first realizing that the industry is capital discipline and the industry has no spare capacity to move and to place, and as a consequence, performance, technology and integration capabilities still give us opportunity to support our pricing. And I don't see it in the current environment changing very much.
Fair enough. I had a follow-up on new energy. You guys press release an update on your lithium DLE pilot in the quarter Nevada, which highlighted a very high kind of recovery rate. I was wondering if you could talk about, Olivier, the next steps to commercialize this technology. How competitive are the extraction costs today versus existing technologies? I was wondering if you could just maybe frame the growth opportunity from lithium.
As you pointed out, I think first we are very pleased to have achieved these milestones. Again, the milestone has been to produce lithium carbonate from our demonstration plant in Nevada using direct lithium extraction from brine and using a concentration and purification process that we have integrated with our own IP and using some external technology and putting this together and working for months to tune it, to digitally optimize it and to realize this. So our plan forward is... is to work with prospective partners and customers to see how this technology can be used and scaled to respond to big demands that exist and some plans that some of our customers and partners have announced to use daily as a method to extract lithium and produce it in large quantities in the coming years. So we are looking forward to use this technology to scale it for application as a licensed technology or as a partner where we will develop and run going forward this technology with our customers and partners. That's the way we look into it and again very good first and benchmark performance for such a daily plant and exciting prospect, long-term prospect for us in this new space.
Great. Thanks a lot.
Thank you.
And our next question comes from Neil Mehta with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Yeah. Good morning, team. A couple of financial questions. Maybe as we think about 2025 over the summer, You had talked about that $10 billion EBITDA target for 25 on a 20% CAGR. Just, you know, in light of some of the macro commentary, can you just talk about some of those moving pieces as it relates to that guy? And I think you've given us a lot of moving pieces, but I'd like to just kind of tie that out.
Sure, sure. Makes sense, Neil. So, So really, yeah, again, margin expansion is, we are laser focused on this. We've been increasing EBITDA margins for year on year for 15 consecutive quarters, and we don't intend to stop. So this is our mission, and as I explained, it's made of several types of components. Now to your specific question on 2025 and the absolute value of EBITDA compared to our to our long-term 21 to 25 CAGR ambitions, it is possible that, indeed, with the current macro outlook, again, to be refined. And if we exclude, for the moment, just to compare apples to apples, with apples, sorry, if we exclude Champion X, it's possible that the 21 to 25 CAGR will finish more in the high teens rather than breaking that 20% bar.
Thanks. That's really helpful. And then it was a super quarter for free cash flow. You guys beat our model by quite a bit. Very strong collections. Can you just talk about how you're thinking about, you know, first of all, talk about the go forward for working capital and just the free cash flow profile into next year as well, including CapEx, which has been, again, trending in a constructive way.
Yeah, totally. So yeah, we maintain capital discipline for sure. So this is quite predictable and it's a bit too soon to talk about CapEx for next year, but rest assured it's going to. The theme of capital discipline clearly will be there considering the macro environment. So now specifically to our Q3 free cash flow, yes, always in the second half we generate most of the year free cash flow and in Q3 this was in a way more than exacerbated compared to over a year. So yes, Q3 was very strong and as we highlighted and as you mentioned, it's it was really driven by customer collections. In a way, Q2 was a little bit low on collections, so there's a bit of a catch-up effect, and Q4 will essentially be dependent on, it will be strong, it will also be dependent on customer collections, but as you can see, we do experience volatility in those collections from a quarter to another, so we will continue to push, we'll definitely finish the the year on a high note as it relates to working cap and free cash flow. Working cap will continue to release as we finish the year. And going into next year, again, a bit too soon to give you a number for free cash flow, but definitely it will be higher than 2024, not only from our own operations, but of course with the addition of ChampionX and And this is why we are quite comfortable to reaffirm our $4 billion target returns to shareholders for next year, because free cash flow will increase in 2025. That's great.
Thanks, team.
Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you, Kurt. Thank you, Neil.
Next, we go to Kurt Khalid with Benchmark. Please go ahead.
Morning, Kurt.
Mr. Haleed, do you have your phone muted? Hi. Good morning. Good morning. Sorry about that. Good to hear everybody this morning. So, Olivia, you did highlight a more tempered outlook as you go out into 2025, so we appreciate that. In the context of those dynamics, usually as the industry kind of goes into a more moderate growth or Some markets kind of go into a little bit of a slowdown. There's some pricing pressures that maybe come along with that. Just wondering if you're starting to see or starting to have some of those conversations with your customer base. And if not, what may be different that's kind of driving the discussions with the customers that go around?
Yeah, I think in all cycles, at any point in the cycle, I think we will always get under competitive pressure and under pressure from our customer to lower the cost of operation or improve the value. We believe that, I think, first and foremost, as long as we continue to perform, create the value and exceed the expectation on the performance of our operations, We believe that any pressure that could come from a competitive and or from a customer aspect. Secondly, we believe that the industry is tight on capacity, capacity of equipment, capacity of critical new technology. And the industry has demonstrated lately a strong capital discipline that has restrained this risk, I would say. But as long as we maintain very high customer satisfaction through our performance, continue to deliver our technology, continue to deliver our integrated value proposition, I think we will relieve any pressure that could arise into a moderating growth environment and defend our pricing and further improve our pricing when and as it matters. and hence protect our margins going forward. So it's a matter of execution, it's a matter of relationship, but it's also a matter of capital discipline across industry, and I believe the condition in this cycle is a bit different than what we have suffered in the past, and I'm looking at this constructively.
Okay, that's great. That's great. Maybe a follow-up, you know, coming full circle to your digital forum. Great event, by the way. What, in the context of the kind of post- meetings and so on and so forth. What were one or two things that came out of those meetings or discussions with potential clients of yours for your generative AI product? What was surprising to you that you maybe didn't anticipate going in?
I think the customers were, I think, first, many of them participated themselves and 150 papers were presented by our customers. More than 10 of them presented their own application of digital to other customers. So I think it was a lot of learnings for customers to watch each other and to learn from each other on how they use digital technology to unlock value. So if anything takes away, I think at a high, high level, I think customers realize that we are more than just one geoscience application in the cloud, and we have a digital value proposition that expands across different domains and across different technology stacks, on-prem, cloud, edge, AI, and across the different domains, geoscience, reading, and production. So the full value proposition we have on digital, I think, did surprise many of the customers as we continue to expand and have now a very comprehensive offering. That's the first takeaway, I think. The second is, I think, the emergence of AI as an X factor for the industry to unlock more value of digital. This industry is data rich, I would say. And hence, we have deployed, as you heard, 150 engineered AI, full of domain, full of physics. and full of the latest data science technique to unlock more performance into our digital application. And the latest announcement of Lumi as a platform that complements Delphi and as a platform for putting and accessing all ENP data in one framework to integrate all the application across seamlessly. And finally, to create a framework that allow our customer to Use AI application on their data set across the different domains and unlock new insights or create new performance. That's sort of Lumi data and AI is getting a lot of inbound requests as we have just announced it and will certainly be a factor of growth in the future as the industry will recognize that There is a lot to unlock from data, to liberate data, and to realize value through AI, including GenAI application that we developed, as you have heard, with partners like NVIDIA, Mistral, and others.
That's great. Appreciate that insight. Thank you.
Thank you.
Next, we go to Saurabh Pant with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Hi. Good morning, Olivier and Stéphane.
Yes, all right. Good morning. Good morning, Saad.
Hi. I know there have been a lot of questions on digital, but I had one conceptual one, if you don't mind, Olivier. As we think about the upstream cycle maturing and growth slowing, I know digital has its own secular drivers, SLB-specific drivers, so growth in digital should be very different versus upstream pending. But conceptually, Olivier, how should we think about the variance, the sensitivity to digital growth opportunity relative to what the upstream market is doing? So if growth in upstream spending flows from 10% to, let's say, low to mid-single digit, does it do too much to digital growth outlook or are they materially unrelated to each other?
I think as we are very early in the in the curve of adoption of digital, I believe they are largely uncorrelated at this point. And we see the TAM, total consumer market of digital in our industry, in upstream, actually growing as the market may be moderating from upstream capex. We believe that the size of digital will actually, by contrast, grow and our ability to not only participate fully but also gain a share in this market and unlock white space in this market such as with LumiData and AI and or for edge autonomous operation, I think will create for us a long growth opportunity that will be largely de-correlated. Now there are aspects of short-term, I would say, discussionary decision on that can affect digital, but I think the long trend, I think, I believe, is positive, and long trend will continue to be a secular investment opportunity for customers that now they're realizing creates value today, and hence is an opportunity to differentiate their performance for tomorrow.
Right, right. Okay, okay. No, that makes a lot of sense, Olivier. Thank you. And my follow-up, Stefan, maybe for you, obviously you are accelerating cash return to shareholders. This year, you have your $4 billion, at least $4 billion target for next year. But just conceptually, as we think about the percentage of your free cash flow that you might want to return to shareholder as the cycle matures, this year it looks like you're going to be pretty close to 80%, which is a lot higher than your target. Conceptually, is it fair to assume, Stéphane, that that percentage of free cash flow continues to go up as the cycle matures?
Well, you know, it is true. We set the minimum a few years back of 50%. So, yeah, we have clearly exceeded that. And I'm quite happy we were actually able to exceed that. So, I mean, it really depends on investment opportunity. I think 80% is... is already a very good number. It's hard to tell you if it can get to 100% in 2025. I mean, it's really, we are happy with where our balance sheet is. Deliveraging has been a focus for a few years. We have turned that focus from deliveraging to return. So depending on investment opportunities, returns to shareholders, remains the priority at the moment. So, yes, you will see that percentage clearly above our initial guidance of 50%. That's for sure.
Yeah, no, that's perfect. I was not expecting you to raise it to 80% from 50%, but conceptually that all makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I'll turn it back.
Thank you. Thank you.
Next, we go to Roger Reed with Wells Fargo. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Good morning. I'm going to come back to digital. It's the theme of the day. So let me ask the question slightly differently for you, Olivier, as you think about it. High growth, you've got to get customers on board. You've got to have the opportunities available internally, right, in terms of people and offerings. So as we think not just the growth rate in $25 to $3 billion, but beyond that, What do you see as, you know, potential bottlenecks, be they internal or external, that you've really got to deal with here? You know, the front and center items about having the right people in the right place and, you know, making the inroads to your client base.
No, Roger, thanks for the question. I think it's nothing new.
I think we have been... working on ongoing and understanding what can we do to unlock both from the go-to-market and from our own internal capability the digital growth. And I think we have been most successful in the last few quarters. And I think it comes down to, I think, engaging for customers, better understanding what customers I think offering they are looking for, and I think this going for multi-cloud environment, going for hybrid cloud environment, on-prem and cloud, I think has been an evolution that we have taken two to three years back, and I think it's paying off and it's unlocking the growth. The other realization is that some customers don't necessarily focus on the application, but are focused on the data, and they are willing to sort out and unlock the data, hence creation of Rumi as a platform to address the customer that are more interested into unlocking data and directly accessing AI through a data platform, as opposed to having to adopt the full suite. And I think we have seen this. We have done investment into our innovation factory to help collaborate for customers to tailor some fit for base in application to their needs. So we have already gone through this. Is it all obstacle resolved? No. I think, as I said, it's one customer at a time adoption on the cloud. However, I think something that helped us a lot and I think is accelerating is the fact that the digital operation led by our core division production system, well construction, and result performance are becoming new agents of digital transformation for our customers as they are pushing and getting successful into the adoption of digital services that are being delivered real-time at the edge, such as autonomous drilling operation or well-bore insights. or surveillance and optimization of some of our production system equipment. And this is one well at a time. This is one transaction at a time. So the rate of adoption here, I think, and a push we have made to coalesce, if I may, offering in the office, in the planning, to offering to operation. And at least under one umbrella of platform, I think it's unlocking the pace of adoption. And as we see this happening today, and we believe this will continue. So that's what we are doing to unlock, if you like, and working with partners to provide more options to our customers. so that they recognize the ecosystem they work with. So these are the two or three dimensions that we have worked with in the last 18 months, two or three years, and that are starting to bear fruits and are starting to translate into growth, and we don't see it changing going forward.
I appreciate that. Yeah, it sounds like incremental, and then eventually we get to cascade with this. As a follow-up to that, Stéphane, You mentioned capital intensity obviously declines with the sale here of the Canada E&P ops. What's the right way for us to think about capital intensity in terms of digital investments? Does capital and CapEx investment trail the revenue growth for a period of time, exceed it? Is there a way to think about maybe a you know, a crossover eventually in that where the growth continues, but the capital intensity would decline? Or does it rely so much on capital investment elsewhere? There's not an easy way to think about that.
So it's clearly different from our core business. There's a little lag or reasonable lag between investment, CapEx in our core business, and and the related deployment of the tool in the field. In digital, it's a much longer cycle. So first, it's not CapEx. As you know, we expense all the investments because the investments are basically, you can categorize them if you want, in product development, research and development. And this has been done over, I'm tempted to say the last, So there's always, of course, to come up with new solutions to enrich the platform. We need to continue investing every year, but we are not seeing spikes in there. We make arbitrages within a given envelope. So our growth in digital doesn't trigger incremental capital intensity because it's really smoothed over time. Over many, many years, I would say that the heavy investments have been made in the past already. Now it's just enriching the platform and supporting the enriched offering for the customer.
Great. Appreciate it. Thanks.
Thank you.
And our last question will come from Stephen Gengaro with Stifel. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Good morning, everybody.
Good morning, Stephen.
Two for me. The first, just sort of thinking about the short term in the fourth quarter, can you talk a little bit about sort of the puts and takes as we look at the fourth quarter and maybe even versus sort of normal seasonality that we get every year? And I'm just also curious on the Gulf of Mexico if there's been any big impact from the storm activity.
I'm not sure we got your second question you are concerned about, the second part of your question.
whether there's been much impact from the Gulf of Mexico storms.
So I'll start with this to say that we have seen muted impact on the Gulf of Mexico storm operation and the Gulf of Mexico has been the driver for growth in the third quarter sequentially. As it comes to the fourth quarter and your question, I think the put and takes, I think, yes, there is an element of seasonality, both on the positive side, which is the digital end product from production system year-end sales that will normally and will create a boost to our revenue. And there is a seasonality effect on some part of the novel atmosphere that we're starting to see, either part of the sequence or budget exhaustion part in U.S. land, we see an offset. And I think these two, as we commented, will be partially offset. And we see, as a concern, a muted growth going forward sequentially. But that's a put and take that we are seeing going forward.
Great. Thank you. And then the second question was really, I'm not sure you're willing to comment on this, but as you've mentioned earlier, you've kind of been going through the integration team on the CHX front. Has there been anything that you can talk about that has sort of increased or changed your thought process or optimism on the synergies?
Well, we are, as we said, we have been working quite a bit on both sides with the integration teams and what we are seeing is really giving us even more confidence than we had originally on the transaction and on the synergy. So we are not going to change our synergy target at this time, but we clearly confirm it and we are quite happy with what we are seeing in that integration planning process.
Great. Thank you. Thanks for the call.
Thank you. Thank you.
And I'll turn the conference back to SLB for closing comments.
Thank you, Leah. Ladies and gentlemen, as we conclude today's call, I would like to leave you with the following takeaways. First, SLB remains well positioned to navigate commodity price fluctuations, benefiting from our unique operating footprint. Moving forward, We will continue to harness our technology deployment and integration capabilities to capture high margin opportunities in the international deep water and gas markets. Second, our digital business remains a key differentiator in the industry. This will continue to drive higher margin growth while opening the door to new markets. And third, with our solid financial performance and focus on operating efficiency, We look forward to deliver further margin expansion, higher cash generation, and increased returns to shareholders. Thank you for joining us this morning. With that, I will conclude our call.
Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude your conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.