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11/7/2024
Good afternoon and welcome to NuScale third quarter 2024 earnings results conference call. Today's call is being recorded. All participants are in a listen-only mode. After the management remarks, there will be a question and answer session, and to ask a question at that time is star one on your telephone keypad. A replay of today's conference call will be available and accessible on NuScale's website at ir.nuscalepower.com. The web replay will be available for 30 days following the earnings call. At this time, for opening remarks, I would like to turn the call over to Scott Kozak, Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead, Mr. Kozak.
Thank you, operator. Welcome to NuScale's third quarter 2024 earnings results conference call. With us today are John Hopkins, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Ramsey Hamady, Chief Financial Officer. On today's call, NuScale will provide an update on our business and discuss financial results. We will then open the phone lines for questions. This afternoon, we posted a set of supplemental slides on our investor relations website. As reflected in the safe harbor statements on slide two, the information set forth in the presentation discussed during the course of our remarks and the subsequent Q&A session includes forward-looking statements, which reflect our current views of existing trends and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties. you can find a discussion of our risk factors, which could potentially contribute to such differences in our Form 10-K and subsequent SEC filings. I'll now turn the call over to John Hopkins, NuScale's President and Chief Executive Officer. John?
Thank you, Scott, and good afternoon, everyone. For nearly two decades, energy demand in the United States has remained largely flat. However, in the past year, the growth trajectory has inflected. with power demand forecasting to accelerate aggressively. While this demand outlook is supported by onshoring trends, boosting domestic manufacturing, electrically powered transportation, and heavy industry, the most important driver is data centers. Technology companies are racing to secure massive amounts of uninterrupted energy to operate complex data centers and power increasingly sophisticated artificial intelligence. The demand for carbon-free energy is accelerating. This urgent need is at the heart of what new-scale technology can bring to this market. I'd like to take this time to reinforce our view that powering the technology industry is an integral part of our future. As depicted on slide three, data centers are seeking more computing power, faster and more powerful processing, and enriched artificial intelligence. all requiring far more energy, which they need 24-7 with five nines. That's 99.999% reliability. According to a recent McKinsey analysis, the portion of domestic power output consumed by U.S. data centers is expected to increase from 3 to 4% in 2023 to 11 to 12% in 2030. In other words, U.S. data center power consumption will rise from 25 gigawatts in 2024 to over 80 gigawatts by 2030, requiring an investment exceeding $500 billion. What's more, hyperscalers have made commitments to customers and shareholders for meeting their accelerating power demands with carbon-free energy. Enter nuclear. and in particular, small-module reactors, or SMRs. An energy source that is compact, clean, and constant. Nuclear is the superior choice. Coal and natural gas power generators have obvious carbon emission challenges, and renewables like wind and solar are still intermittent. While renewables are undoubtedly important in our clean energy future, nuclear, and specifically SMRs, are uniquely positioned to take the lead in powering these massive data centers. The world's major tech companies are discovering the value of nuclear. As seen on slide four, driven by the need for sustainability along with an AI revolution, we have seen numerous recent announcements from tech companies scouring the country for carbon-free electricity and zeroing in on nuclear energy. In March, Amazon acquired Talent Energy's data center campus connected to the Saskatchewan nuclear station. In September, BlackRock, Microsoft, and others announced plans to mobilize up to $100 billion for building data centers and a supporting grid energy infrastructure to power them. Also in September, Constellation Energy announced plans to restart an 835-megawatt reactor at the Three Mile Island nuclear plant and sell 100% of that power it generates to Microsoft. As Google pursues its goal of becoming carbon neutral by 2030, its CEO, Sundar Pichai, said SMRs could be used to generate more than one gigawatt of power for a planned large-scale data center. Similarly, on Oracle's most recent earnings call, Chairman Larry Ellison discussed designing data centers powered by SMRs that require more than one gigawatt of energy. This change is happening now, today, and just as tech companies are choosing nuclear power, they're also seeking small-module reactor technology, a safer, cheaper, and more consistent means of delivering carbon-free electrons. As the only U.S. NRC-approved technology with reactors already in production, NuScale leads the industry in near-term deployability. With our commercialization partner, InterOne Energy, we are moving closer to supply in their InterOne Energy plants as they continue to finalize commercial agreements. I am in dialogue with senior executives from prospective customers almost daily, and I can confirm there is fundamentally more interest in understanding nuclear technologies, regulations, supply chains, and business models than ever before. This is not rhetoric for them. These hyperscalers need this power now in an ever-increasing amount over the long term. And they're responding positively to the IntraOne Energy Plants commercial model that are structured to mitigate a significant number of SMR-related risks, including first-of-a-kind development risk and execution construction risk. Hyperscalers also benefit from NuScale's SMR scalability, availability, reliability, and equally important, near-term deployability. Two additional points on this topic. First, we expect InterOne energy plants with new-scale SMR technology to be competitive with the recent Microsoft Constellation and Google Talent agreements. Second, there are very few restart opportunities in large-scale nuclear with favorable economics similar to Three Mile Island. Hyperscaler companies will have to secure SMR new bills to meet their reliability objectives and sustainability targets. These prospective new-scale power plants are generating significant interest from infrastructure capital as well as large commercial banks. For context, in September, a group of 14 global financial institutions, including Citigroup, Barclays, and Morgan Stanley, announced their support to triple nuclear energy capacity and reach net zero by 2050. While data centers are extremely important, we're seeing increased interest across the board from a variety of potential off-takers, as you can see on slide five. NuScale was the only nuclear company to present at the recent GasTech event in Houston, with 50,000 people in attendance. We continued our dialogue with interested prospects, including senior executives of major oil and gas companies seeking not only power, but also high-pressure, high-temperature steam for hydrogen and ammonia production. These executives understand how attractive our site boundary emergency planning zone is, as well as our capacity to be off-grid, and appreciate that new-scale technology is multiple years ahead of other proposed SMR technologies. Now let's discuss international opportunities. Our technology is widely acknowledged across the globe as important for both climate disruption and energy security. This has led to an advanced interest in East and Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. As outlined on slide six, I'll provide an update on recent developments with the Road Power Project. In the third quarter, S&N and Row Power were authorized to proceed with Phase II front-end engineering design or feed work. Shortly after a third quarter ended, FLOR, the prime for Phase II feed, finalized a sub-agreement with NuScale Feed Phase II, which will include tasks related to the development of Class III plant construction estimates, as well as support to Row Power with its regulatory and stakeholder engagements. Separately, in August, the U.S. Department of State announced that Regnum Technology signed an MOU with the government of Ghana to pursue development of an SMR plant and had chosen NuScale technology to power it. We also plan to open an energy exploration or E2 center at the Ghana Atomic Energy Commission site on the campus of the University of Ghana. This will be our sixth E2 center globally with other facilities operating in universities in Romania, Korea, and the United States. Interest and potential demand for the technological benefits that NuScale SMAs offer have never been higher. Potential customers see and appreciate what sets NuScale apart, including our partnership with InterOne Energy with its proprietary business models that have been positively received by all market counterparties as the vital solution that provides off-takers the ability to meet their strategic risk parameters and financial objectives without the need to capitalize, own, or operate their own plant. Negotiating agreements is a complex process that, by nature, takes time. But we continue to make significant headway and remain confident that we can achieve our near-term sales goals. As conveyed on slide seven, the U.S. must remain at the forefront of the green energy transition. The production of nuclear energy as a baseload power is imperative to maintaining carbon-free reliability in the U.S. electricity grid and is rightly viewed as a national security imperative. U-scale SMR technology has a unique ability to provide the availability and reliability needed to secure our data for national security. Strong leadership in a green economy is good for the environment. It's good for America and our allies. It supports our geopolitical interests by reducing reliance on non-domestic energy sources. In addition, it powers U.S. economic growth and enables global competitiveness. Additional nuclear energy supply will also support on-shoring trends and America's strong growth in domestic manufacturing. Domestic policy initiatives, including the CHIPS and Science Act and the Inflation Reduction Act, cannot be fully realized without access to abundant carbon-free power. Further, given the recent election outcome and the long-held priorities of the incoming administration, we expect development of nuclear energy to further accelerate. NuScale and EntraOne Energy are optimally positioned to support this ongoing transition. As seen on slide eight, NuScale is at the forefront of next-generation nuclear energy producers with regards to design safety and innovation. We have systems, features, and capabilities that are unmatched amongst other competing nuclear technologies, SMR or otherwise. For example, NuScale power modules have the ability to safety shut down and self-cool indefinitely without the need for AC or DC power, operator interaction, or any additional water. This enables what is termed an unlimited coping period, a first for light water reactor technology, and an extraordinary differentiator in relations to safety. In addition, the NRC approved our methodology in determining the emergency planning zone, or EPZ, for new-scale powered energy plants. As opposed to traditional nuclear power plants, which are required to have an EPC of 10 miles in the U.S., we can achieve an epc limited to the site boundary a smaller epz significantly reduces plant operating cost and further enables the siting of new skills technology where it is needed most such as retired coal power plant locations in close enough to manufacturing facilities to provide high temperature high pressure steam for industrial applications further NuScale's SMRs do not require grid power or connection for safety, which is another first for a nuclear power plant. Moving on to slide nine, an important reason why we're the only near-term deployable SMR is that we are the only technology with design certification from the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission, or NRC. Others in the SMR marketplace remain at the early stages of multi-year processes in working towards approval. Our second standard design approval application for a power upgrade to 77 megawatt electric is scheduled to conclude by mid-2025. The design upgrade is based on our same fundamental safety case and features approved by the NRC in 2020. And we believe the 77 megawatt new scale power module supports a wider range of customers. Now let's turn to manufacturing, where we're also leading the pack. Doosan and Earnability continues making progress in producing the first new scale power modules, the only NRC approved SMRs in production. On slide 10, you will see the images from Doosan in support of manufacturing and supply chain readiness activities. This continued work provides advantages to our next project deployment, shortening delivery significantly. When it comes to manufacturing our modules, NuScale's relationships with our long-term supply chain partners, many of which are also strategic investors, are one of the most significant sources of our strength. Doosan and other members of our supply chain have made substantial investments retooling their facilities in preparation for supporting NuScale's commercialization. Our robust supply chain has positioned NuScale as a clear leader in manufacturing readiness in the SMR space and is why we are ready to produce customer orders right now. Before I turn the call over to Ramsey, I want to echo a recent comment from Constellation Energy CEO Joe Dominguez. The most important energy commodity in the world today is a reliable and clean electric megawatt. NuScale has the ability to produce clean, reliable energy, reach end users, and help them achieve their sustainability goals. Whether it's an industrial electrification, process heat, or the rapidly escalating demand of the data economy, NuScale's SMR technology is part of the energy solution for the future. Recently, Idaho National Lab performed a landmark study which validates that a NuScale integrated energy system is both technically viable and economically competitive with a high temperature gas cooled reactor, or Gen 4, for process steam applications. NuScale has the advantage, and that is the only SMR with a design certification with modules in production. We maintain competitive advantages in technology, safety, manufacturing readiness, siting, and regulatory success, and are prepared to produce and deliver. I am looking forward to continuing to update you on our progress in the months ahead. Now, Ramsey will provide our financial update. Ramsey?
Thank you, John, and hello, everyone. Our financial results are available in our filings, so my focus will be on explaining major line items. These slide 11 for third quarter results and relevant factors impacting our financial position. All figures following are for Q3 2024, unless I state otherwise. Newskill's overall cash position improved during the period, ending the third quarter with cash, cash equivalents, and short-term investments of $161.7 million, $5.1 million of which is restricted, and no debt. We're pleased with the progress we have made strengthening our balance sheet and reducing our operating expenses over the course of 2024. The company's cash position is higher now than it was during 2023, driven primarily by the careful and measured utilization of our ATM program, as well as disciplined budgeting and cost optimization efforts. For the quarter ended September 30th, 2024, New Scale reported a revenue of $0.5 million and net loss of $45.5 million. This includes a non-cash expense of $7.2 million related to an increase in the fair value of warrants outstanding. During the same period in the prior year, the company reported revenue of $7 million and net loss of $58.3 million, which included non-cash income of $11.1 million related to our warrants. Operating expense was $41.2 million compared to $93.9 million in the year earlier period. The year-over-year reduction in operating expense of $52.7 million reflects the company's actions to reduce costs and operate more efficiently. Separately, during the third quarter, we reported an operating loss of $41 million. This compares to an operating loss of $92.9 million in the third quarter of 2023. Looking forward, New Scale will maintain our financial discipline and remain focused on managing liquidity and risk. We are committed to sustaining a prudent liquidity reserve. I will conclude my remarks with a preview of our capitalization summary from slide 12. Additional information may be found in our SEC Form 10-Q and earnings release. With that, I'd like to thank you again for joining today and for your continued support of New Scale. We'll take questions. Operator?
Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question, it is star 1 on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, simply press star 1 again. One moment, please, for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of Eric Stein with Craig Hallam. Your line is open.
Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions tonight. Sure. Hey, so I know this happened recently, but just curious your thoughts on the FERC rejection of talent in the Amazon data center and You know, obviously it would seem to me that it proves out the need for SMRs, incremental power, baseload, zero emissions, et cetera. Just curious, I mean, again, I know it's early, right? It just happened. But is that something that you expect to drive in further interest from your pipeline and new customers?
Yeah, I think that it was quick and it was, I don't think it's over with, you know, the Burke obviously wants to have electrons on the get grid versus behind the meter. So it's still the pan out. I think it's too early in the process really to comment other than the fact, I don't believe personally that it's going to be a holdup going forward in the, in the market.
Got it. Is it a, I mean, because SMRs would be incremental power, You know, to me, that was the biggest thing, right, that part of the reason this was rejected, at least for now, is because it would be taking electrons from someone else rather than incremental power at the site of use.
Yeah, that's what I read, but I really don't know beyond what you read the rationale behind it. So I'm sure we'll soon, you know, things will occur within near term. We'll have a better understanding.
Okay, fair enough. I guess a second one for me, just good to hear on the upgrade progress or the expectation that it's on track for mid-25. I mean, maybe just remind me what the importance of that for Part 52 approval, whether it's Entra 1 or someone else goes through that process. And just curious also, I know you've got a big pipeline out of their customers who are kind of waiting on that upgrade approval, uh, before moving forward.
Yeah, I was, uh, with the NRC we're, we're in regular communications with them. As you can imagine frequently, I have what's called drop-ins who we visit with commissioners in this particular case. I also met with the chairman Hanson and, uh, to your point, we are on schedule. Um, we're hoping to get through the technical aspects here soon. But we're still on schedule to meet the NRC schedule of mid-25, which we're looking about the July timeframe, if not sooner. The importance of it is that as we went through the NRC process, as you recall, we submitted our designer certification application for 12 modules at 50 megawatts electric. And having gone through the process through the NRC licensing of scaling up and modeling we came to the realization that that same machine could essentially, and we were conservative, could push outwards towards 80 megawatts electric. And we felt the economics better supported 80. And also our customers were asking about an additional up to the 80 megawatts per unit. If you look what's happening today in the data centers, Now, we were originally thinking on coal plant refurbishment. A lot of companies were asking for six modules. Today, it's 12 modules. And at a 12-module plant of 77 megawatts electric, you're pushing pretty much a gigawatt-size plant that's scalable. So this is very attractive to the customers we're in discussions with today.
Hey, Eric, this is Randy. Just to add on, You mentioned we work with a large data center and tech companies. We're working with Entry One Energy as they progress in their discussions with the large tech companies. I haven't heard feedback from them that anyone has delayed or feels a sort of reticence to progress discussions based on the upgrades. We're so far through the process. It was a two-year process. We're looking down now around the last six or seven months. And you have to remember, out there in the market today, people are signing PPAs and making announcements with technologies that are nowhere near the stage of development that we are. And that's a downplay of the progress that those companies have made, and we're always hopeful and supportive of our peers. But our technology is much more further advanced, and we're seeing people dive into PPAs with... with really just very theoretical designs at this point.
Yep. Okay. Thanks a lot.
The next question comes from Mark Bianchi with TD Cowan. Your line is open.
Hey, thanks. I guess, Ramsey, you just mentioned those other announcements. I was curious. Was NuScale involved in some of those discussions, and were there any aspects of... you know, the way those arrangements were put together that are maybe, I don't know, not part of how you guys would want to have your business model put together. I'm just kind of curious at your reaction to, you know, to the details of those announcements.
Mark, look, I think those announcements are pretty varied. You know, they go from Amazon making an investment in tax energy to Google signing a I think something resembling a PPA with Kairos Power. So there's a pretty wide breadth of what's out there in the market. Again, as I said just now to Eric, what we're doing is we're working with InterOne as they progress those discussions. I haven't been... I don't have a relative comparison point between discussions that InterOne is progressing with the data center companies and these other groups. Yeah, I do think that the InterOne model provides a different sort of comparison set. So, Clayton, are you on the line?
Yeah, Ramsey. I'm here. So, the InterOne discussions with the The tech companies are different in flavor. So all I can say is that, you know, they're still continuing and progressing. And, you know, we're obviously in a different place as far as our technology and where we are. So, you know, we're having, I would say, concrete discussions, but different than what's been announced.
Mark, this is John, but let me add to that. Again, it bears out what we've been saying now for a few years. It's having these alphas, I'd call them, or tier ones looking at nuclear in the way that they are. It's great for our industry. The announcements they made, that's an option. A lot of it gets into what we're hearing is they need near-term deployability. but they're also looking at future states. So, you know, to me, those announcements just validates the fact that these large-scale companies are, in fact, looking at nuclear as a solution to what they're looking for in a future state. And also near-term. So we're in discussions with the same companies.
Okay, great. The other thing that I noticed, which is... there was a $20 million customer deposit announced in the quarter here when I look at the cash flow statement. Is that related to Ropower or is there another customer involved there?
Mark, so that's in relation to Ropower and just our progress on the project with them. As I look at that, there's no first-line revenue, so revenue recognition is a different item. Because, you know, in our cash flow statement, there's a $20 million deposit. And what I think it points to is the fact that, you know, we're progressing in pre-engineering services and technology licensing. We're progressing towards, you know, towards deployment of our SMR modules, which is really the prize for us.
Yeah, indeed it is. The other one I had was just on the feed study with RowPower. So we got that document. Justin Cappos, And it looks like kind of the timeline there would have you with a class a class three estimate in June of 25 if I kind of worked it out properly is that. Justin Cappos, It should we be expecting any kind of an update around that time will we see we get any kind of indication of how the cost is looking for the project is that. Is that a milestone where, you know, I think back to the experience with UAMPS, you know, the costs were changing and that ended up being something that got a lot of attention. Is there going to be some kind of an update related to that with this project or is it an entirely different process?
Well, it's a different process, Mark, but I'm sorry. It's a different process. I was on the phone today with the CEO of S&N and, you know, on CFPP, as you recall, we those customers had the opportunity to opt in and opt out from a subscription, but that's not in play here. We will keep you involved. We, right now, as I said, we are the subcontractor to Floor Corporation, who's the prime. The fee process is about a 12 to 14 month duration, at which time, you know, that Floor and us were looking at, you know, developing the estimates to a class three and also helping real power on the regulatory front And then the final investment decision will be made in about a year's timeframe from today. But yes, we will keep you appraised as we move forward.
All right. Thanks, guys. I'll turn it back.
Thanks, Mark.
The next question comes from Leanne Hayden with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is open.
Good evening, everyone, and thanks so much for taking my question. Just the first one from me. Given higher enrichment fuel momentum, government incentives, and the recent hyperscaler commitments and the fuel that they intend to use, I'm wondering about your module fuel flexibility, i.e., could you use LEU Plus or HALU fuel to drive higher power output per module?
Great question. I'll have Clayton, who came out of 40 years of Framitone. Clayton?
yeah so um we could we could use a higher blend to extend however where we're sitting today and in our enrichment uh we're comfortable to uh to deliver a 21 to 24 month cycle cycle at this point in time we don't necessarily see where we would want to go any higher based on the current design that we have certified so we we don't expect for this particular SMR designed to go into the higher enrichments that you typically see in the Gen 4s with the higher levels of HALU.
Understood. Just following up on that, do you think if you were to increase the uranium-235 enrichment in your fuel that it would have any impact in your passive safety mechanism and smaller EPZ?
somewhat, but I think, you know, the limits that we've certified and projected, you know, we're maintaining that EPZ and we're trying to, we don't want to exceed those boundaries. And again, it doesn't really make sense for our design based on, you know, current PWR and fuel the supply that we're using to really go there. You know, it's just at this point in time, It's, you know, the way we're certified, the way we're established, it fits our parameters. So, you know, could you do it technically? Yes, but it has impacts on the overall design that we don't think are beneficial for our particular plant the way we have it certified today and the way we anticipate using it in the market.
I think the other answer is that fuel is readily available. I mean, Framitone is manufacturing our fuel in Richmond, and we don't see, you know, unlike ISA or Halo Fuel, that still has to be manufactured, has to go through the licensing process. Fuel is not an issue for us because there are 440 reactors around the world where advanced or light water reactors are using similar fuel.
Understood. Got it. Thank you both so much. I'll jump back in queue.
The next question comes from Max Hopkins with CLSA. Your line is open.
Hello, guys. Can you hear me? Yeah. Great. So I have a question. I don't know if you can provide clarity, but on this Department of Energy $800 million light water reactor program, Obviously, there's the developers, the EPCs, the power plant. To bring that forward, do you guys need to sign a deal and then bid, or can you attract a deal and then with the Department of Energy put together the team? How is that looking?
No, you have to put together. It's a cost-share program, so whomever our partner is, a utility or an industrial, we would, in fact, put that team together. And it would be a competitive process. Clayton, you're chasing that. Anything to add?
No. I mean, to your point, it's putting a team together and submitting an application to which DOE will review all the different applicants and decide, based on a lot of different parameters, how they want to perceive whether that's a single single-funded project or a dual-funded project. But yeah, it's a combination of applications, combinations of different partners and different projects that they'll evaluate overall.
Okay. Thank you. And then one more, if you don't mind. Obviously, there's all the data centers talking about needing the power now, and SMRs are years away at this point. Doesn't that lend itself to natural gas development right now? Is that fair to say?
It could. I don't see natural gas going anywhere. But if you look at the commitments that these Tier 1 AIs have made in decarbonization, looking at 2030 or 2040, it's tough to deal with when you're dealing with natural gas. But natural gas is an option.
Thank you.
The next question comes from Ryan Fingst with B. Reilly Securities. Your line is open.
Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. You bet. The first one, with the upgrade approval expected in the middle of next year, can you just remind us, is that specifically for the six-module design? And if it is, what's your expectation for getting approval for the 12-module design in terms of, you know, NRC-related costs or timelines there, given you already have the work done with the six?
Clayton? Yeah, so there's elements that are related to six, but there's also elements within the uprate that apply to 12. And basically, when we do our first 12-module site, independent of the up rate, because the up rate is more specific around the module. We'll do a site-specific license based on a 12-module site and whatever site parameters we have to evaluate.
Got it. And then, John, in the prepared remarks, you talked about it a little bit with the change of administration. nuclear has garnered really strong bipartisan support, but do you see kind of stronger support from a Trump administration and, and, you know, new programs given the Republican sweep that you might not have seen from the last administration?
You know, it's really too early to say. I think if, if, Vice President Harris administration, had he got in, we'd have seen probably more regulations. I think with President Trump, we'll see trying to curtail and have less regulations. I do happen to know that having had a conversation with him previously in his last year, he was very pro-nuclear. And I'll leave it at that. You know, if you think about what we constantly hear It's about competition with state-owned enterprises in the international market. And for that to happen, we have to have American technologies deployed and operational. So we're very hopeful. We'll see who this current president puts around him, which I think is absolutely key. But we're very – I'm hopeful that the answer is going to be absolutely. We will see an acceleration – in advanced nuclear.
Thanks for taking my questions.
You bet.
This concludes the question and answer session. I'll turn the call to CEO John Hopkins for closing remarks.
Yeah, thank you, operator. You know, as we've been talking, nuclear technology is poised to play a critical role in powering the global clean energy transition. We've already discussed numerous examples of technology companies with data cities to support moving decisively to secure reliable carbon-free nuclear energy. And in this environment, we do truly believe NuScale is well-positioned to commercialize our technology. Our SMR, as we said, has been certified by the U.S. Nuclear Regulation Commission. We maintain industry-leading manufacturing readiness. And along with our global partner, IntraOne, we're executing on a robust project development pipeline, and we're very pleased with our progress and look forward to reaching our goals. And with that, I'd like to thank everybody on the call who has the interest in NuScale and participating today. Thank you.
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