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11/5/2024
Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to this sequence communications third quarter 2024 financial results conference call. At this time, all lines are in listen only mode. Following the presentation, we will conduct a question and answer session. If at any time during this call you require immediate assistance, please press star zero for the operator. This call is being recorded on Tuesday, November 5, 2024. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mrs. Kim Rogers, Managing Director of Leaden AR. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Chloe, and thank you to everyone participating in today's call. Joining me on the call today from Sequence is George Karam, Chairman and CEO, and Deborah Choate, CFO. Before turning the call over to George, I'd like to remind our participants of the following important information on behalf of Sequence. First, Sequence issued an earnings press release this morning, and you can find a copy of the release on the company's website at .sequence.com under the newsroom section. And before we start, I'd like to remind everyone that this conference call contains projections and other forward-looking statements regarding future events or our future financial performance and potential financing sources. All statements other than present and historical facts and conditions contained in this release, including any statements regarding our business strategy, cost optimization plans, strategic options, the ability to enter into new strategic agreements, expectations for massive IoT sales, our availability to convert our pipeline to revenue, and our objectives for future operations are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. These statements are only predictions and reflect our current beliefs and expectations with respect to future events and are based on assumptions and subject to risks and uncertainties and subject to change at any time. We operate in a very competitive and rapidly changing environment. New risks emerge from time to time. Given these risks and uncertainties, you should not rely on or place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. Actual events or results may differ materially from those contained in the projections or forward-looking statements. More information on factors that could affect our business and financial results are included in our public filings made with the Security and Exchange Commission. And now, I'd like to hand the call over to George Caram. Please go ahead, George.
Thank you, Kim. Good morning, everyone. I'd like to thank you all for joining us today. I'm excited to share an update on where Sequence stands as we continue our transformation following the successful closing of the Qualcomm deal. As you may know, we've been navigating a rebuilding phase, and I'm pleased to say that we believe Sequence is on a strong trajectory toward growth and long-term success. Let me walk you through the recent development highlighting why we believe in our future success and growth. First, we successfully closed the Qualcomm transaction, securing $200 million in funding for the company. This was a critical milestone for us. The deal not only enhances our financial standing, but more importantly, validates our technological leadership in the cellular IoT space. This bolsters the confidence of both our existing and potential customers in our ability to innovate, compete and support them in multi-year relationships. Our financial stability is no longer a challenge, and a major industry leader has endorsed our technology. Second, as we have retained perpetual licensing rights to our 4G IoT technology, we can maintain and enhance our 4G product offerings with the LTM and the IoT Monarch 2 and Cat 1 VS Cali P2 platforms. This enables us to support our design-win pipeline and drive short-term revenue growth. Meanwhile, we'll focus our R&D resources on developing next-generation innovative 5G RedCap and eRedCap solutions to continue our growth trajectory and create more value for our shareholders. Let me provide more detail on these points. Starting with financial stability, I'm pleased to confirm that in October, we fully repaid all mature debt and cleared all overdue payables to our suppliers. Our balance sheet is now nearly debt-free, marking a significant turning point in our ability to operate with greater flexibility. With our strategy centered on massive IoT, we are now well positioned to make targeted investments in R&D while effectively managing and reducing our cash burn rate in 2025. Combined with anticipated revenue growth next year, we are confident in our trajectory toward achieving breakeven by 2026. I want to recognize the incredible support we have received from our customers. Over the past year, our customers have remained steadfastly committed to Sequence despite our challenges. As a result, we have retained almost 100% of our existing design-win projects, representing a corresponding three-year revenue pipeline that accounts for approximately $250 million of future revenue. These design wins cover a variety of IoT applications for multi-year deployments, with must in the large markets of metering, tracking, and fleet management. While previous financial challenges limited our ability to secure new project wins, this didn't reduce our customer traction, particularly in our Cat1-Biz Scale IP2 product. Now, with a solid financial footing, we are back to work on the pipeline of opportunities and anticipate securing new design wins in 2025. In fact, both existing and potential new customers, as well as partners, were impressed by our Qualcomm transaction and they fully support our strategy post-deal. The testimonial in our recent press release affirmed their view of the value of our technology and of Sequence as a trusted partner. The recognition of our leadership in the 4G, 5G IoT industry underscores the competitive strength of our products and solutions. Now, with our team solely focused on executing our business strategy, we are devoting all of our energy and resources to driving growth. Importantly, we are more confident than ever in our competitive edge. This confidence stems from our ability to execute an innovative product strategy that enhances our existing 4G IoT platform and drives the introduction of next-generation 5G RedCap and eRedCap products. We expect this will accelerate new design wins while the existing design win projects move to mass production. Let's take a closer look at our revenue growth and outlook for the upcoming quarters. Two key factors provide us with a strong visibility into our revenue trajectory from the coming year and beyond. First, on the product side, our design win pipeline remains robust with more projects transitioning into mass production starting in the fourth quarter of this year and continuing through 2025. Second, we have a line of sight for new projects coming online in 2025 that we expect to accelerate our growth in 2026. All this anticipated growth is based on existing mature Monarch 2 and CaliP2 platforms that require limited R&D investments. Our design wins pipeline is built with industry-leading customers such as ITRON, Honeywell, and JioTab, as well as with major OEM partners aggregating numerous OEM customers. Many of these design wins have an average life cycle that exceeds 5 years, providing stable revenue streams over the long term. Similarly, we are engaged with tier 1 customers on numerous new opportunities that we are targeting to close in the coming quarters. It's important to highlight that in addition to 4G, 5G product sales, Sequence will continue expanding its licensing and services business. First, we continue supporting our existing Chinese partner and expect this relationship to generate services and royalty revenue in the future. Second, we have other engagements we believe could lead to new licensing and service deals in 2025. In fact, our existing 5G IP and future innovations on RedCap and eRedCap should allow us to secure new licensing deals similar to what we have done in the past. Our licensing strategy involves addressing new market segments or regions through partnerships and securing new business opportunities with limited investment. This approach could bring incremental growth through high margin licensing and service revenue, further advancing our path to break even. We are optimistic about near-term revenue growth. With backlog in hand, we expect fourth quarter product revenue to double from the third quarter. Looking ahead to 2025, we anticipate product revenue growth to continue as new design-win projects move to mass production. Additionally, we expect some licensing and service revenue from existing engagements and new deals that we target closing in 2025. Operationally, we are targeting cash operating expenses, meaning excluding depreciation, amortization, and equity compensation expense, to fall below $10 million per quarter in 2025, driven by a combination of cost efficiencies and focused R&D investments supporting our revenue growth. This reduction in expenses will allow us to reduce our cash needs. Now as a last point, I want to dive into one of the key questions on investors' minds how Sequence will remain competitive in the IET market, especially in such a rapidly evolving industry. The answer lies in our ability to continue delivering product innovation. I'm proud to say that we've retained a world-class engineering team with deep expertise in 4G and 5G. This team's expertise is the driving force behind our roadmap for improving Monarch 2 and CalIP2 platforms and introducing next-generation 5G products. Sequence also has a differentiated -to-market strategy with the flexibility to support our customers in unique ways by providing everything required as -stop-shop chips, modules, and software solutions which are customizable as needed for a broad scope of IUT applications. Additionally, 5G RedCap and eRedCap technology are gaining significant importance with IUT industrial customers who are looking for a future-proof cellular connectivity solution in anticipation of the evolution of the network to pure 5G. Our roadmap is closely aligned with 5G standalone deployments with a -to-market approach setting the stage for us to take advantage of the growing demand for next-generation 5G connectivity solutions. Another factor supporting our continued relevance is the industry's growing need for at least two reliable sources of Western design technology from suppliers fully committed to cellular IUT with a comprehensive 4G and 5G product offering. This means that customers, especially those in North America, Europe, and Japan, need more than one chip alternative to address sovereign challenges and avoid relying too heavily on one supplier. This factor, combined with the current geopolitical situation, positions Sequence, exceptions, and the potential for a new technology. In summary, there are four key indicators that demonstrate Sequence is in a dynamic rebuilding phase. First, we significantly transformed our balance sheet, eliminating nearly all of our debt, and substantially strengthening our cash position. Second, we've retained the rights to our 4G IUT technology, which enables us to continue supporting our existing customers while building new products and next-generation 5G solutions. Third, we've preserved our critical customers and supplier relationships, ensuring that the design wins we've secured are entering mass production, giving us visibility into product revenue growth for 2025. Last, we are also generating new licensing and services revenue sources that will further limit our cash flow. I will now turn the call over to Debra to review the third quarter financial results in detail. Debra?
Thank you, George, and good morning to everyone. Before we get started, please note that the financial results released today are preliminary. Our final results are subject to finalization of the purchase price allocation, including receiving purchase price allocation input from Qualcomm, which is expected to be completed in December. This process involves allocating the purchase price among the acquired tangible and intangible assets based on their estimated fair market value. This process is required for both financial reporting and tax purposes. Now, moving on to our third quarter overview, our revenues for the third quarter of 2024 increased .5% to $10.1 million, from $7.8 million in the third quarter of 2023, and increased sequentially by 4.2%. Product revenue accounted for .4% of total revenues, compared to .7% in the third quarter of 2023, and .2% in the prior quarter. We experienced a shipment delay at the end of September, which prevented us from shipping about $500,000 of product. Licensing revenue was $7.7 million, a .8% increase compared to $7 million in the prior quarter, and a .7% increase compared to $7.2 million in the second quarter of this year. This quarter, we recognized $6.7 million in revenue from partial delivery under a 5G license to Qualcomm as part of the overall transaction. We expect additional licensing revenue under this agreement to be recognized in Q4 and into 2025. Gross margin in the third quarter of 2024 of .5% continues to reflect the favorable impact of higher margin license revenue dominating the mix, and is stable compared to 84% gross margin in Q2. Gross margin on product revenue was .9% in Q3, compared to .1% in Q2. IFRS operating profit was $87 million in the quarter, compared to operating losses of $3.7 million in Q2 of 2024, and $7.8 million in the third quarter of 2023. The increase in operating profit compared to the prior quarters is due to the net gain on the sale of the 4G assets sold to Qualcomm of $152.7 million. Our estimation of the value of the assets sold is $175.4 million. This gross gain was reduced by the net book value of R&D Capitalized for Monarch 2 and Collibb B2 of $18.4 million, and by deal-related fees and expenses. This gain was partially offset by a non-cash impairment charge of $56.6 million for intangible assets related to our Taurus product. As a result of our decision to indefinitely suspend development of the 5G4 Taurus project, we determined it was appropriate to write off assets on the balance sheet that were dedicated to Taurus. We had an increase in R&D expense due to no longer capitalizing the R&D related to Taurus, but we continued to capitalize Collibb B2 costs through the date of the asset sale. And we had increases in all lines of operating expenses due to an exceptional bonus to all employees and management. Interest expense decreased compared to the prior quarter due to lower interest expense on mature debt. Interest in Q3 was accrued at the contract rate with no IFRS impact. On a non-IFRS basis, our net profit for Q3 2024 was $80.5 million, or $2.5 million, for $90.91 per diluted ADS, as compared to a non-IFRS net loss of $5.8 million, or $0.23 per diluted ADS in the prior quarter, and a non-IFRS net loss of $6.8 million, or $0.29 per diluted ADS in the third quarter of 2023. The per ADS numbers reflect the change in our ADS to ordinary share ratio effective on October 9th. We changed to one ADS representing 10 ordinary shares from one ADS representing four ordinary shares. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $173.6 million at the end of Q3 compared to $13.1 million at the end of Q2. The Q3 balance includes $172 million in proceeds from the Qualcomm transaction received on September 30th, 2024. Subsequent to quarter end, we repaid about $85 million in mature debt and accrued interest, lowering the debt balance shown on the balance sheet as of September 30th by the same amount. Our remaining debt is alone from the French government as well as advances for R&D projects, including for fine GE red cap development, repayable once we begin to commercialize the underlying products. In October, we also paid down overdue supplier accounts and fees related to the transaction. Turning to the outlook, we expect approximately 10% sequential growth in Q4 2024. Product revenue is expected to double from Q3 and licensing and service revenues will remain significant, including a licensing component related to the Qualcomm deal. Note that as of the end of September 2024, there is around $13 million of licensing revenue related to the Qualcomm deal that will be recognized between Q4 and 2025. And the timing will depend on the timing of delivery of various IP components. In addition, as George mentioned, we are implementing actions to reduce our cash operating expenses, meaning excluding depreciation, amortization, and equity compensation expense to be below $10 million per quarter on average in 2025. On a final note, we are attending the upcoming Roth MKM conference in New York City on November 20th. Please contact your Roth representative to schedule a -on-one with us. In addition, Kim Rogers, our IR consultant, can assist in scheduling a call with George and me. Kim's contact information is at the bottom of today's press release. At the conclusion of this call, we will post a written version of our formal remarks in the investor relations section of our website on the webcast and presentations page, the same location where you can find the audio replay. And I'll turn the call back to George.
Thank you, Deborah. Operator, we are ready to open the call for Q&A,
please. Thank you. I would like to remind everyone if you would like to ask the question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. Again, please press star one to ask the question, and we'll pause for just a moment to allow everyone to signal for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Scott Searle from Roth Capital. Please go ahead.
Hey, good morning, good afternoon. Congrats on getting the deal closed, George, and congrats on the improving outlook and the customers returning to buy Sequence product. Hey, George, maybe just to start on that front, the product recovery seems to be strongly underway. You provided some details in some of the verticals. I'm wondering if you could go a little bit more into detail to seeing how that recovery progresses into 2025. I know there's a lot of meter opportunities. There's a lot of fleet opportunities that are in the pipeline. And how do you expect that to kind of continue to ramp in 2025, given that you've got a $250 million design win pipeline? And kind of how that's starting to break down also by technologies? Are you starting to skew more towards CAD one versus CAD M? Any color on that front would be helpful.
I mean, Scott, as you mentioned, really the design win pipeline is intact. And this is maybe the best thing we achieved, I would say, during the last couple of years of challenge or a year and a half of challenge, because we could lose a lot of deals. But customers stick with us and they continue to design. And I mentioned a little bit like, although the design win conversions was not fast or was very minimal, I should say, now it's back to life. And we are seeing traction again and we start closing new deals. But to talk about, you know, specifically the growth, you need to imagine that this year, most of our business was really focusing in terms of product on CAD M, Monarch II revenue, which are projects that they were, they moved to production beginning of the year. And they were progressing, you know, we start seeing new ones coming into Q4. And this will continue next year with more projects turning. And when I talk about projects, not necessarily always, by the way, new customers. Sometimes we have the same customer with whom we have like multiple projects. And in the first year, we saw only one project converging to revenue and we are shipping to this customer. But the shipment level remain, I'll say low in comparison to the potential of this customer when three more projects will be turning to mass production as scheduled by our customer executing. So we're going to see sequential growth. Maybe Q1 will be a little bit. Q4, as I said, will double. Q1 will be OK. And then we'll continue from there growing every quarter based on what you are seeing in terms of convergence of product. Really one, you know, customer, we want just only waiting for the customer to turn to mass production. And there is an inflection point as well next year related really to what you mentioned about the product nature. As I said, we're shipping more today, Monarch and Katam Kat when this platform within ship much will be shipping a little bit. Thank you for but really the beginning of this. However, we had many customers projects where, you know, turning again to mass production. We start getting backlog for next year with some customer ready already with their platform and others, you know, to turn to production. In more towards and Q1 and Q2. So next year, we are going to have continuity of Monarch two projects. You know, growth with more projects win and really the convergence of the design win of Cali P2 turning to mass production next year. I will not say like half half next year, maybe in dollar amount that will be 60 40 because they kept one value is higher. They kept one still in the beginning of the RAM. However, in 2026, we could see Katwan as big as Katam even a little bit higher. I tend to say.
Great. Very helpful. And maybe to just build on that and kind of wrap red cap into the conversation. You know, it's clear from from going to industry trade shows and events that you guys have kind of been pulled into center stage post the Qualcomm acquisition. You know, and, you know, it seems like from a design activity standpoint, from a relevant standpoint, validation standpoint that's driving that opportunity pipeline that design when pipeline. So I wonder if you could address that as well with red cap, you know, the timing of red cap. And it seems like it's becoming increasingly more relevant with customer roadmaps, particularly on the industrial IOT front in terms of your ability to not only offer Katam and Katwan, but to migrate to red cap. And so how that's all playing together and when red cap starts to become relevant and who the competition is. Yeah,
I mean, maybe just one clarification when we talk about red cap, all this is the family reduced capacity of five G. So let's call it low cost five G. And we talk about red cap and E red cap and the difference between the two that red cap is really for a high end IOT for camera application because it allows you to do hundred hundred fifty megabits per second. While when you go to E red cap, you limit the speed really to let's say ten megabit and below and the E red cap is the solution that will be I'll say the five G flavor of Katwan and LTM. And the red cap will be like addressing high end industrial application. So we're working on the two as we said on red cap will be faster and will bring something to market next year. I don't want to say more on this because we'll be announcing this and our customers, they know and what we are telling them. And we believe E red cap will follow the following year to market from execution point of view. Any high level of view what I'm saying here now, when you look to the demand, this will be you have to you need to understand that to get red cap and E red cap, you want to you need five G to be standalone five G deployment standalone where today most of this five G deployment are non standalone. In other words, the device will connect first immediately on five G. The device doesn't need that all four G to connect. And we know that in the US carriers started their deployment of standalone and this will take them maybe a couple of years to be I'll say nationwide coverage where you know that red cap and E red cap will be almost a must in every place. However, you need to think about it like the customers have concern and because you know they want really to address the evolution of the network and how they can deploy device today. Let's say a meter which is going to stay there for 10 years and I would like to get this meter operating over 10 years even more. You could say today maybe it's okay if I deploy today because I can expect 10 more years of four G network still available. So if I deploy a four G product, it's fine. If you project this two, three years down the road, you start feeling the same customer even if four G still operating is going to challenge that what he's going to deploy. Maybe we'll have a problem in five, six or seven years down the road. This means those customers start asking to have a device couple of supporting your red cap. Even if they don't want to use it immediately, but they want to have it future proof, you know, at cap capable. And this is where why we are pushing for this and essentially support our customer with this transition of the network from four G to five G. And they said we have a very mature platform, LPM and Kat Von Biss. We'll be making some improvement and as usual on existing product. However, the focus of our R&D will be to innovate on a new platform coming for your red cap to plan this continuity and support our customers.
Very helpful. And last, if I could just on the licensing front, looks like near term, you're going to have some ongoing licensing recognition and rev rec from Qualcomm. But it sounds like there's also a pipeline of opportunities building on the red cap and e-red cap front that are similar to the licensing deals you've won in the past. I'm wondering if you could elaborate on that front, you know, just how active the engagement pipeline is and then I'll get back into you. Thanks.
I mean, Scott, I mean, as you as you know, you know, track record of sequence, you go back even 10 years. I mean, there is no one year where we didn't do strong licensing and revenue. You know, it's not the business that scales, you know, to many hundred millions or whatever. I mean, but this business exists and gives the capability to sequence to always get 10 plus, maybe sometimes 20 plus and 30 plus million dollars depending on the platform and so on. And this is because, you know, we are always on the edge with our innovation and we have customer and partner interested in approaching us and get access to this technology. And we believe this will continue. We are engaged with many partners, obviously, the selective, you know, on the partner because we always do those deals to avoid impacting our product revenue, I'll say in terms of relationship by selecting the nature of this partnership. But we are quite optimistic and positive. We have few deals under discussion, and I'm sure we'll sign more next year in 2025.
Great. Thanks so much. Congrats on closing the deal and looking forward to 2025. Thanks,
Scott. Again, press 1 to ask the question. Thank you. There are no questions at this time. Please continue.
Thank you. Thank you, operator. Thank you again for joining the call today. Just a few words, you know, to conclude this call. As I said with a $250 million three years product revenue design wind pipeline and the strong support of our customers to the new position of Sequence and our innovative product roadmap, we are confident in our ability to expand our market share in the 4G and 5G IUT markets. The road ahead is exciting, and I believe Sequence is in a strong position to grow and be successful. I extend the heartfelt thanks to all our stakeholders who have stood by us and we look forward to your continued support. Thank you very much. Thanks, operator. We can close the call now.
This concludes today's conference call. Thank you, and you may now disconnect.