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Good day and welcome to the Sempra Energy second quarter earnings call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Faisal Khan. Please go ahead.

Good morning and welcome to Sempra Energy's second quarter 2020 earnings call. A live webcast of this teleconference and slide presentation is available on our website under the investor section. Several members of our management team are on the line with us today, including Jeff Martin, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Trevor Mahalik, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Justin Bird, Chief Executive Officer of Sempra LNG, Alan Nye, Chief Executive Officer of Encore, Kevin Segarra, Group President, and Peter Wall, Senior Vice President, Controller, Chief Accounting Officer. Before starting, I'd like to remind everyone that we'll be discussing forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those discussed today. The factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's most recent 10-K and 10-Q file with the SEC. All of the earnings per share amounts in our presentation are shown on a diluted basis and will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the presentation slides that accompany this call for a reconciliation of GAAP measures. I'd also like to mention that the forward-looking statements contained in this presentation speak only as of today, August 5th, 2020, and the company does not assume any obligation to update or revise any of these forward-looking statements in the future. With that, please turn to slide four and let me hand the call over to Jeff.

Thank you, Faisal, and thank you all for joining us today. Two years ago, we laid out a strategic plan to divest non-core assets and reposition our business in the most attractive growth markets right here in North America. The plan also called for concentrating our investments in a more narrow segment of the energy value chain with the goal of improving our financial results. I'm proud to report that our strategy is working. You recall that our financial results in 2019 significantly exceeded our original guidance, and this year, we're pleased to have increased our 2020 EPS guidance range, completed our capital rotation program, generating total gross proceeds of $8.3 billion, continued executing our utility-centered capital program while deferring about $500 million of infrastructure capital, and at the end of last week, We reached substantial completion at Cameron Train 3 with commercial operations and full cash flows from all three trains expected in the coming days. Given the quality and strength of our earnings and particularly the visibility we now have to our future growth, we believe recent share price performance doesn't reflect the value of our company nor its growth prospects. Because of this, we've made the decision to buy back $500 million of our stock and received approval from our board for new authority of $2 billion for share repurchases. We're committed to being prudent stewards of your capital and will continue to look for ways to drive additional value back to our shareholders. Turning to our financial results for the quarter, we are benefiting from more concentrated investments in our T&D portfolio. Our adjusted earnings results for the first half of 2020 are up over 50% when compared to last year primarily driven by the results by U.S. Utilities and Cameron. We've already touched on our revised EPS guidance range for 2020, but I'd like to also highlight that we're also affirming our 2021 EPS guidance range as well. Now, please turn to slide five, where I'll provide an overview of our recently completed capital rotation program. The sale of our Chilean businesses in June for approximately $2.2 billion was the final transaction in our strategic capital rotation program and really sets us up well for the future. When we set out on this path at the end of 2017, we had just finished the year with adjusted earnings per share of $5.42. Since then, we've recycled approximately $27 billion in firm value back into our business with a focus on T&D infrastructure, invested close to $16 billion of growth capital in our utility and infrastructure businesses and raised the midpoint of our 2020 adjusted EPS guidance range from $7.10 to $7.50, close to a 40% projected increase over our 2017 results. Our company-wide commitment to operational excellence has led to the strong execution of this strategy, and our employees deserve a ton of credit. We are today more strategically focused, more profitable, and more optimistic about our future growth prospects. And it's all tied to making further progress on our mission to build North America's premier energy infrastructure company. Please turn to the next slide. Our ongoing focus on safety and reliability remains paramount and is a critical component of our overall mission. Here at Semper, our number one priority continues to be the health and well-being of all of our employees, customers, and the communities we serve. We've built a strong safety and performance culture throughout our organization. I cannot be more proud of the ongoing commitment and dedication of all of our employees to providing essential, safe, and reliable service to over 35 million consumers. We also continue to support our communities through charitable giving, donating over $13 million to local health and welfare areas since the start of the pandemic. As we look ahead, we're continuing to plan for the safe reentry back to the workplace. We continue to be thoughtful and strategic about returning to the office in a phased approach that considers specific work locations and personnel requirements while adhering to the latest safety guidelines. From an operational perspective, we built a strong and sustainable business that can successfully operate in a variety of challenging environments by decoupled revenues at our T&D utilities in California, investments in the largest T&D provider in Texas with no exposure to generation and regulatory protection from retail risk, tolling contracts with A-rated customers that are also our equity partners at Cameron LNG, and critical operating infrastructure in Mexico with dollar-denominated long-term contracts with an average tenor in excess of 20 years. Our strong financial results year-to-date highlight this sustainable business model. Please turn to the next slide. Across our businesses, we're invested in the portion of the energy value chain that we believe will provide the best risk-adjusted returns. Nearly all of our five-year capital plans expected to be invested in transmission and distribution projects. Through our narrowed geographic footprint, sustainable business model, and focus on T&D investments, we believe we've created an infrastructure portfolio with strong cash flows to support a growing dividend and improve visibility to future earnings growth. Now I'll turn the call over to Trevor to discuss our capital allocation approach as well as our operational and financial results.

Thanks, Jeff. As already discussed, we believe we've built a business model that can weather the current health and economic crisis and emerge stronger and more profitable. We've been consistent with our capital allocation approach by prioritizing our utility-centered capital plan optimizing our balance sheet, and returning value to our shareholders. Despite our demonstrated capabilities and superior dividend growth, our stock has underperformed this year and trades at a relative discount compared to our peers. In light of this, and in an effort to continue returning value to our shareholders, we're announcing that we have completed a $500 million share repurchase program. This $500 million has exhausted the previous $2 billion authorization that we had outstanding since 2007 as part of a previous capital recycling program. Therefore, our board recently authorized an incremental $2 billion of share repurchases, providing the flexibility to buy back shares on an opportunistic basis. Please turn to slide nine. We have a strong track record of returning value to our shareholders. Since 2000, we've repurchased approximately 74 million common shares totaling $3 billion, and we've consistently grown our common stock dividend with $10 billion returned to shareholders. Please turn to slide 10, where I'll discuss operational updates. SDG&E continues to be a leader in wildfire mitigation and has invested over $2 billion in this effort since 2007. The CPUC recently approved SDG&E's wildfire mitigation plan, and we've successfully procured wildfire insurance in excess of the $1 billion requirement in compliance with AB 1054. These insurance premiums are balanced as part of the 2019 GRC decision. We continue to innovate and advance our leadership position in this area through our FireSafe 3.0 program, combining technology and over 10 years of data. At SoCalGas, we received a proposed decision for approval to recover $806 million related to our pipeline safety enhancement plan. In addition to our continued focus on safely and reliably serving our customers, we're making significant headway on our sustainable clean energy goals. We remain on track to meet our goal to procure 5% renewable natural gas for our core customers by 2022. Separately, We continue to advance a regulatory program that will allow SoCalGas customers to buy renewable natural gas for their homes and businesses, along with working with legislators to advance a renewable gas portfolio standard. The company is also collaborating with several partners on a number of hydrogen demonstration and pilot projects. As the largest gas utility in the U.S., we believe our scale and commitment to innovation allows us to support renewable natural gas, hydrogen, and other technologies required to meet the state's clean energy goals in a way that promotes resiliency of the system and affordability for our customers. Shifting to Texas, Encore continues to execute on its capital plan. Encore connected over 20,000 new premises in the second quarter and over 38,500 new premises year to date. On the transmission side, Encore is on pace to set a record for interconnection requests in 2020, predominantly driven by an increase in solar generation activity. Through July, there were approximately 270 transmission interconnection requests, which compares to 300 requests for all of 2019. Despite the impacts of COVID-19, Encore believes it will continue to have steady increases in interconnection requests for the remainder of 2020. Overall, Texas continues to be one of the most resilient markets in the country, and ERCOT's system expects to hit a new summer peak load later this year. Please turn to slide 11, where I'll discuss developments at the SEMPRA LNG and SEMPRA Mexico business units. Beginning with Cameron LNG phase one, as Jeff said, we're pleased that train three has reached substantial completion with commercial operations expected in the coming days. The facility is expected to provide nearly $12 billion of after-death service cash flows to SEMPRA during the 20-year tolling agreement, with no commodity or volumetric exposure, and is supported by its A-rated customers and partners. Moving to Mexico. Despite the current market challenges, we strongly believe in the long-term fundamentals of delivering cleaner and more affordable energy to the people of Mexico. Tanya and her team are prudently managing Enova's business while helping to ensure the continuity of safe and reliable operations. Enova continues to be disciplined with regards to capital allocation by strategically deferring capital and executing on its share repurchase program. In fact, across North American infrastructure businesses, we've deferred about a half a billion dollars of capital in 2020 as a result of the current market environment. Moving to our development projects, ECA LNG phase one has off taken EPC contracts in place and is ready to move forward with a final investment decision subject to receiving the Mexican export permit. We continue to work closely with local authorities as well as the highest levels of the Mexican government on advancing the permit process. Separately, I'd like to address the recent commercial contract developments at the ECA regasification facility. Two customers are alleging that an update of the general terms and conditions for service at the facility resulted in a force majeure and breach of the existing contracts. We believe these allegations are meritless and ECHA has notified these customers that they are in breach of their obligations. We're examining all of our options in light of the timing and baselessness of the claims and plan to vigorously exercise our rights and remedies in all available forums. We don't believe that the initiation of arbitration by one of the customers will delay the ongoing steps to FID on the ECHA Phase 1 liquefaction project. At Cameron LNG Phase 2, we've signed MOUs with Total, Mitsui, and Mitsubishi and are working on the preliminary front-end design studies. We're excited about this opportunity and believe that the incremental capacity at the existing Cameron facility should provide very competitive pricing for our customers. Given the current market environment, we continue to target FID on Port Arthur in 2021. We're working with our current and potential customers and remain disciplined on how we allocate capital to the project. Ultimately, demand from customers will drive the timing of Port Arthur. We continue to believe in the long-term fundamentals of the LNG market and Semper's competitive position. We see long-term value in our projects and believe that our financial strength and the strategic location of our development projects provide us with competitive advantages over others in the industry. Please turn to slide 12. Looking at our financial results, this was another strong quarter. Earlier this morning, we reported second quarter 2020 gap earnings of $2.239 billion, or $7.61 per share. This compares to second quarter 2019 gap earnings of $354 million, or $1.26 per share. On an adjusted basis, second quarter 2020 earnings were $485 million, or $1.65 per share. This compares favorably to our second quarter 2019 adjusted earnings of $309 million, or $1.10 per share. Please turn to slide 13. The variance in the second quarter 2020 adjusted earnings when compared to last year was affected by the following key items. $126 million of higher earnings at the California utilities from the release of a regulatory liability in 2020 associated with an income tax expense memorandum account that tracked differences between the actual and forecasted estimates from 2016 to 2018. $75 million of higher earnings at the California utilities from higher CPUC base operating margin than of operating expenses, primarily driven by the timing of the 2019 GRC decision, $65 million of higher earnings from Cameron going into service, and $31 million of higher earnings at Semper Texas Utilities, primarily driven by the increased consumption due to weather, updated rates reflecting increases in invested capital, and the impact of Encore's acquisition of InferEat in May of 2019. This was offset by $49 million of lower earnings from discontinued operations in South America, mainly as a result of the sale of our Peruvian businesses in April, and $32 million of lower earnings at parent and other due to income tax items, as well as losses on foreign currency derivatives related to the sale of our South American businesses. Please turn to the next slide, where I'll turn the call back over to Jeff.

Thanks, Trevor. SEMPRA continues to lead the sector in sustainability as highlighted by our strong ratings. In May, we published our 12th consecutive corporate sustainability report. We're extremely proud of the progress we're making on the environmental, social, and governance front, and this year's report provides a great snapshot of our most recent initiatives and our latest results. Our sustainability report also highlights how we champion diversity. In fact, across the Sempra family of companies that we control, 62% are persons of color. And in our parent company, the majority of all of our employees are women. We are also quite proud of our board of directors where 62% are women or persons of color. I'm very proud of our employees who continue to live out our company values. At Sempra, we do the right thing, champion people and shape the future. Please turn to the next slide. We're pleased to report a very successful quarter, both operationally and financially. Benefiting from a more narrow strategic focus, we recently raised our full year 2020 adjusted EPS guidance range and are also reaffirming our full year 2021 EPS guidance range. We remain committed to creating long-term shareholder value, and I cannot be more pleased with our overall financial performance, even in these challenging market conditions. And with that, This concludes our prepared remarks and we'll stop to take your questions.

If you would like to ask a question, please signal by pressing star 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please make sure your mute function is turned off to allow your signal to reach our equipment. A voice prompt on the phone line will indicate when your line is open. Once again, press star 1 to ask a question. We will take our first question. from Shar Parisa with Guggenheim Partners.

Hi, good morning. It's actually Constantine here stepping in for Shar. Congrats on a great quarter.

Thanks, Scott. We have a couple of questions. One on kind of the capital allocation decisions that were announced here and the stock buyback. It's a bit of a departure from kind of prior language on capital allocation. Just curious on kind of what sorts of timeframes are you looking at for that 2 billion and can you get a bit more sense on the rationale of kind of buyback versus delivering versus reinvestment specifically more from like a strategic perspective, kind of the option that you're kind of announcing today indicates some lack of efficient reappointment in the near term.

And just thinking about like M&A allocation, have there been any considerations on the Encore stake?

them or any other opportunities in faithful jurisdictions.

Thanks, Constantine. There's a few questions in there, so I'll try to take them in order. If I miss one, please circle back. I'll be glad to address it. I think I would just start with one of the comments we made in our prepared remarks, which is that we really feel like we're getting great traction with our strategy. We set a course just over two years ago to become North America's premier energy infrastructure company. And to do that, we elected to exit South America and sell some non-core assets. That generated about $8.3 billion of pre-tax proceeds, which we've been able to effectively recycle back here into our core businesses, particularly here in the United States. So what we've been number one focused on from a capital allocation standpoint is funding our $32 billion five-year capital program. The lion's share of that, as you know, is in our utilities. So our first obligation is to always make sure that we meet the resource requirements at Encore, SDG&E, and SoCalGas, particularly in the areas of safety and reliability. Second, we've made some definitive commitments around strengthening our balance sheet. We've set forth our credit targets for the end of the year, namely around debt to cap and our FFO targets, which are reflected in the slides. We feel good about where we're at, but I will say that we feel quite strongly that the utility sector has underperformed the broader market by about 6% this year, and our stock is likewise underperformed within the sector. And we think we have a very strong top-tier growth and income story, and that's why we've taken some steps in this market environment to defer some capital, which Trevor referenced in his prepared remarks, about $500 million out of this year into 2021. And that's created room for us to make sure that we're thoughtful to support our stock. We were very pleased to be able to use up the remaining authorization from 2007, and the commitment and authorization from our board really is to replenish that. And we're not gonna talk about specifically how we might put that authority to work, but I think our past practices of being opportunistic to support our stock at these levels should guide your thoughts in that area. Secondly, you raised this issue of M&A, and I think that our practice has been that we don't, as a convention, talk about forward-looking acquisition activities, but I do think there's always benefit to talk about the lens by which we look at M&A activity. And Constantine, it typically starts with looking at assets that fit our strategy. Second, we look at assets where we think we can bring deep expertise to try to operate them more effectively. And then thirdly, obviously price matters. We're always looking to pay a fair price, and if we can, obviously a dislocation in price is helpful. If you think about our approach to energy future holdings, remember this was an asset that was in bankruptcy and we were able to extend our T&D strategy into Texas, which has been a core priority, and we did that at a very attractive price. And then we went from that one to InfraReit, which was a very similar position, great basket of assets. I think we picked that up for something around 16 times earnings, which is a great price for the quality of those T&D assets. When you think about where we're at today, we've talked about this large enhancement team with low interest rates and credit spreads. It's surprising to see utilities trade at a discounted market. And if you look at, and we've reviewed a lot of sell-side research in this area, I've looked at Wolf, BAML, Goldman, UBS, and others, and it's clear that there's a lot of value in our sector today. And I think it's one of the reasons when we think about M&A, You know, the one area that we feel like that really fits our strategy and also where we have deep expertise and there's a really attractive price opportunity is with Semper stock. So, I mean, we're pretty much pounding the table. We've got a top-tier growth and income story here. And that's one of the reasons that we were opportunistic this summer and pleased to go into the marketplace to purchase $500 million of our own stock. So we have a $32 billion capital program underway. That is 100% of our focus, but at the same time, we're going to be aggressive to continue to look for opportunities to be opportunistic going forward.

Perfect. Yeah, that clarifies a bit.

And just as a quick follow-up, hydrogen has been kind of a topic of interest recently, and California and SoCalGas are kind of leading the way in the conversation with R&D. What's your outlook on kind of implementing this technology, any potential CapEx allocation in the near term, I guess, five-year plan as an upside?

And are you seeing kind of the regulatory support in California for these type of projects, or is it a little early?

Yeah, well, I appreciate you asking this question. This is something that's a high area of interest to us. I also appreciate your recognition of the great R&D work that's been taking place at SDG&E and SoCalGas. I'll provide a little bit of color, Constantine, and pass it to Kevin Segarra, who's the group president over California. But I think it starts with the fact that over the last three to five years, this has been a priority at our company, right? So we own the largest natural gas franchise in the Western Hemisphere and We serve 22 million consumers right here in California, their basic natural gas needs. And we made the decision in the last several years that we're going to lead in this space. When you think of broad categories where we're spending time either on an R&D basis or projects, there's probably 8 to 10 different projects that we're looking at. They fall into the categories of transportation refueling, primarily focused on heavy-duty vehicles, blending opportunities into power generation, blending opportunity into compressor stations at SoCalGas, and really the opportunity to co-locate some of these facilities and take advantage of cost efficiencies with our LNG facilities. But we're also trying to take a leadership position, Constantine, in some of the major trade associations like the Hydrogen Council, and we're collaborating with the countries we think that are leading this field today, primarily Japan and Germany. We're quite bullish on the role of hydrogen and renewable natural gas, particularly here in California. Think about the energy transition that's in front of our sector and the one that's in front of the world, particularly in the developing world. Hydrogen is going to play an increasingly important role. It's still a little bit early, but I think you're raising a good point. The time now to create a leadership position is the work we're doing inside of our utilities currently. Kevin, perhaps you could provide some additional color.

Thanks, Jeff. As you mentioned, it is a little early, but California has always led the way in this area of clean energy, and this time I expect it will be no different. Having just come off of being the CEO of SDG&E, which is a leader in renewable energy with top solar electric vehicles, and having led Semper Renewables, I'm all in on hydrogen. At the gas company, we're speaking to all of the leading industry players that you would expect us to be speaking to. We've got several exciting projects in development. Today, we're participating in projects that make biomethane from solar power and recaptured CO2 and others that make green hydrogen from solar power and water. As Jeff mentioned, we see opportunity in power generation, industrial processes, refueling medium and heavy duty transportation. We see opportunities within our own system. We believe hydrogen will play a key role in the 21st century energy system and you can expect that our infrastructure at the California utilities will be right smack dab in the middle of it. Both utilities are working on several exciting hydrogen projects that we, you know, will be announcing in the upcoming quarters. And so, you know, if you don't hear it in my voice, I am really excited about hydrogen and I think there's a big opportunity here and our utilities are going to be a big part of it. And it's great, you know, our infrastructure is well positioned to play a big role.

I think that's very, very helpful. Thanks so much. I'll jump back in queue. Thanks, Constantine.

If you find your question has been answered, you may remove yourself from the queue by pressing star 2. We will take our next question from Steve Fleischman with Wolf Research.

Hey, thanks for the question.

I guess, first of all, the $500 million of deferred capex, which part of the business did that come from?

I would start by saying, Steve, that we're obviously committed to our $32 billion capital program, but with this current market backdrop, we've really pushed on the near-term end of the capital program. This is really 100% coming from our non-utility businesses. primarily LNG and E&O, but we've moved capital related to ECA into next year, some capital. We've also deferred some capital related to our storage businesses in Mexico, but it shouldn't have any meaningful impact on 2020 or 2021. Okay.

And is there any, the $2 billion incremental authorization, that's just, it's not like a timeline or it's just really, would you dare to say?

No, there's no timeline. I think as I articulated to Constantine, I think our past practices would guide how we would look to use that.

Okay.

And then a couple just issues that have popped up that I guess I get questions on recently has been this first San Diego franchise issue and then I guess this recent filing you guys made on clarifying

lobbying and how that should be treated. Can you just maybe go through those two issues and your take on them? Sure. I'll take your second question first and come back to the franchise agreement. But in California, for a long period of time, you know, various industrial and utilities would be looking to promote one deal in regulation or another. And I think the goal always is to get to the best long-term energy policies in the state. And the colleges sometimes have lack of clarity about what type of activities require use from rate payer dollars versus shareholder dollars, we felt like that ambiguity is your enemy. So we felt like for the benefit of the industry, it was worth having a lot of clarity. So we filed an OIR to make sure there's a process around this with a lot of transparency and allow all five commissioners and their staff to weigh in on it. So we feel good about taking that step, and I think it will add some clarity for all the participants in the industry. On the San Diego franchise, I would probably offer you three different comments here, Steve. First, the city charter in San Diego always requires a competitive process to renew it. Mayor Faulkner and the city council, I think, are doing all the things that you expect them to be doing. They're running a competitive process. It's open and transparent. They've augmented their staff with some outside consultants. And all of this is being done with a view toward getting the best outcome for the residents of the city. I think that leads to my second point, which is we have close to 300 franchises across the state of California. So we're always evaluating 10 or 12 of these at a time. And our approach tends to be to focus on each of these as an opportunity for us to get better as a company. And you have to remind yourself there's a strong alignment of interest, but those same residents of the city are also our customers. So we're always trying to find new and better ways to serve them. And you have to remember these are customers that date back their relationship with our company back in the 1800s. We first started serving customers here in the region in 1881. But let me tell you what I'm confident about. SDG&E is well positioned to be the best partner for the city. I think the three things that we've tried to talk about with the team at SDG&E is that's a company that leads our nation in clean energy with rooftop solar here locally at a 15% penetration rate. That's a remarkable number and a credit to the support from the utility. And historically, we've always been targeting roughly 45% procurement for renewable generation, which is also an industry-leading position. In the last 14 years, we've been consistently named the number one utility in the West for reliability, and that goes back to your safety and safety metrics, where we have a really outsized lead compared to other utilities. And finally, just two or three weeks ago, We were named the number one industrial and utility in the United States at SDG&E for their commitment and demonstrated expertise in innovation technology. So if you think about some of our accomplishments, Steve, and you followed the company for a long period of time, I think the one thing that's kind of common about our success historically has been the broad partnership that San Diego Gas and Electric has with the local IBEW and labor generally. This is a century-old partnership here in San Diego that's always privileged safety and good and prudent utility practice and procedure. I think it's been central to our success, and I think as we approach this opportunity with the city, we're going to approach it from the standpoint that you're always good to have a little dose of humility and try to find the best way to put your foot forward. Our goal is to put the best value proposition from the city, and we have a fair amount of confidence we can do that. Okay. That's very helpful. I've been getting a lot of questions, so it's helpful to clarify those two things. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you, Steve.

Hey, good morning, Steve. Thanks for your time, guys. Hey, Julian.

If I can follow up. Hey, good morning, Jeff.

If I can follow up with the first round of questions here. You know, Jeff, just to follow up here on the M&A question, You know, speaking of questions that we've been getting inbound, you know, there's been a lot of consternation in the market around M&A specifically. And I'm hearing from you all on your call a very close focus on value in your own shares.

Can you try to square those two a little bit more narrowly? I mean, maybe said differently, we really hear about companies articulating frameworks around M&A from all of the premium names, if I can put it that way. Can you... Perhaps frame the buyback in the context of M&A. Is the buyback really a placeholder in your mind, relative, or what's your level of confidence in pursuing this buyback and seeing it through relative to alternative capital opportunities that pop up here?

Hey, Jay, I hate to do this to you, but you came and broken up on the front end of your question. Would you mind repeating it for me, please? Sorry about that. Specifically on M&A, there's a lot of consternation in the market around... how you all are, to what extent you are engaged on M&A conversation. You're very focused on the value of your stock here on the call.

Can you square your level of commitment to the buyback against a broader array of capital allocation opportunities, whether that's in the context of more rate-based utilities or, as I started the question with, around M&A more broadly?

I would be pleased to answer that. I would say that in the past, and currently we have had no formal discussions regarding M&A activities. It is not in our field of view currently. I think what you should hear from my prior comments is that we have what we think is a unique opportunity in our industry with really unparalleled visibility to our capital deployment through 2024. And in part, Julian, that goes back to the quality of the rate case we got at SoCalGas and SDG&E last year. Our goal is to fund that capital program, meet our credit commitments that we've been pretty clear about relative to the credit rating agencies and protecting our balance sheet. If we have opportunities where we can move capital or defer capital within our program, you should expect us to be opportunistic with our own stock. But in general, when you think your stock is trading at such a deep discount as we think ours is, we should be trying to find every opportunity we can to repurchase stocks. So I'm not making commitments about how we will use the $2 billion of authority from our board. But I am telling you that our focus is on number one, the organic growth program that we have. And right now, it makes a lot more sense to buy something at a discount before you'd allocate capital to something you'd be buying at a premium. Thanks for the emphasis. If I can turn back to Steve's question very quickly. What does this process around the franchise arrangement look like? You talk about a partnership. How would you frame the process going forward for investors from here? I think that the invitation to bid falls under the auspices of the mayor's office. I think there's a meeting in San Diego tomorrow where the high-level approach to the ITB or the investment to bid is being presented to the council. yet another opportunity for a lot of open, transparent input from the council to that process. And probably over the next two to four weeks, the invitation to bid would come out. And then we would expect to participate in that process with the view that we would be submitting bids sometime probably in the second half of October. But look, I can tell you that this has been a priority for our company for a long period of time. These are the types of discussions that have been going on for you know, years, not weeks or months. And there's a lot of commitment to make sure that you don't take these types of things for granted. And I think we're very, very proud of our company at SDG&E and its commitment to the community. And as I said in my prior comments, the best way you're successful, and obviously we manage 300 of these up and down the state of California, is you approach them, Julie, with a little bit of humility and always from the mindset that we have a chance to get better And our job as a modern energy company is to find new and better ways to serve customers. And that's exactly the approach that the SDG team will be taking with the city. Appreciate it. Thank you, Johnny.

Our next question comes from Jeremy with JP Morgan.

Hi, Jeremy. Hi, good morning. Hi.

Morning.

I just want to touch on... A bit of the questions, maybe it was picked up earlier here, but given some of the recent moves in the industry here, how do you feel about the current regulated versus non-regulated business mix that you have? Do you see opportunities to shift towards regulated more, or are you happy with where you're at?

That's a great strategic question. This is one that we review with our board on a periodic basis. We've even got discussions with our board on the same topic later this year. Look, we certainly privilege the utility side of our business. It represents roughly 80% of our earnings stack. What intrigues us, and I mentioned this on one of our earlier calls, is if we think about our E-Innova business, we certainly think there's going to be a lot of reshoring and onshoring. I had the good fortune of attending the bilateral discussions and dinner with President Trump and President Lopez Obrador just a couple weeks ago. And there's a tremendous amount of collaboration taking place across all three nations under USMCA and a lot of opportunity for new business and factories and particularly in the pharmaceutical industry to relocate here. So I think it's intriguing for us to think about how we look at the E-Innova business, which we also think is undervalued. We have been actively inside the E-Innova business buying back those shares. So there's a share repurchase program that has been underway there as well. quite active this year, by the way, and as we think about our LNG business. So there's more work to be done here, but I think one of the things that's intriguing is probably less about whether the percentage is 80% of the mix or 90% of the mix. You know, Jeremy, what may be more interesting is how you make sure that those businesses that are not utilities are not consuming the balance sheet of the parent company, right? So UCF's seen other companies in our sector do this, but the more we can think about having access to the unique growth profile that we have in our unregulated businesses and increasingly over time make sure it's not impacting our parent company and that is off balance sheet. I think that's a real opportunity for our company. Got it. That's helpful there. And then Maybe just kind of pivoting over to the LNG business a bit.

It looks like a nice kind of pick up and flows of Cameron been steadily moving up there. And although the LNG market is a bit difficult right now, just wondering if you could provide any more color as far as commercial conversations might be having there. If the tone or the pace has changed at all, granted, you're talking more about a 2021 FID. with Port Arthur, but just wanted to touch base on that and see how things were progressing.

I'll be glad to provide some comments. Justin, if you'll make some color, I'll pass it to you in a second. But what I would say interesting if you start, Jeremy, at the macro level, what's unique is that the northern hemisphere had a very mild winter. Storage levels as we came into the late spring were relatively full. And you've seen an impact in natural gas demand globally related to the pandemic. I think the most recent IEA forecasts are expecting natural gas demand to decline for the year by about 4%. But what's interesting, inside the LNG category, it's actually gone up. So global demand for LNG in the first half of the year is one of the few commodities that's actually up close to 2%. U.S. LNG exports for this six-month period compared to last year are up 70%, and that's a function. A lot of the new capacity has come online in the last 12 to 18 months, including Cameron. And interestingly, Europe's consumption of LNG is up 18% in the first six months. So there's clearly an opportunity where LNG is actually price competitive. So many countries' indigenous supply of natural gas, Thailand would be an example, they're landing LNG at a price that's cheaper in Thailand and they can actually produce it in their own economy. So I think that there is continued green shoots and optimism about LNG, but what we've been trying to focus on, and I think our LNG team has been pretty redundant on this, is we've always had a long-held view that that second wave of LNG infrastructure, which is intended to allow for deliveries in the middle part of the decade, that is a very real opportunity. LNG is going to play a very, very big role in reformulating the energy stack globally. Roughly 80% of future energy demand will come from the developing world. And I think this market is going to be led by Asia and specifically China and the subcontinent of India. So there's a big opportunity there. And I think this pandemic, if anything, is causing some LNG buyers to delay their decision. And it's also causing other infrastructure providers to get behind or fall by the wayside. So I think we've got a strong balance sheet We have a very clear-eyed vision of what we want to accomplish in LNG. And it always comes back to what your competitive advantages are. And I think our approach of having competitive, low-cost, brownfield sites that can dispatch directly into the Pacific and directly into the Atlantic is an advantage that no other LNG infrastructure provider has in North America. But let me stop there and, Justin, see if you'd like to provide a little bit of color about where we're at with both ECA contracts, Cameron expansion contracts, and Port Arthur.

Thank you, Jeff, and thank you, Jeremy, for the question. I think, you know, as Jeff said, I think on the supply side, you know, we've seen a period where there has been a significant, I think it's around 8% per year growth rate in LNG supply. And, you know, the consultants, and we think as well, that that will dramatically slow down as supply as the market has changed, we think that may end up growing, you know, only around 1%. So we think the supply growth will decrease as demand increases, and it's really an opportunity for world-class projects like ours to move forward. In terms of our conversations at Port Arthur, as we've said, we're targeting 2021. This is a customer demand-driven project. We are engaged with Pignig. Saudi Aramco and many other customers. As Jeff mentioned, there has been a slowdown in the market as a result of COVID-19 and economic slowdown. It's also the LNG business is adjusting to teleconferences and virtual meetings, which has really historically been a face-to-face business that required a lot of international travel with the slowdown. That definitely has slowed down the process. But again, we think over time that will pick back up and we think given the competitive advantage of our projects, those will move forward. In terms of Cameron expansion, we've announced that we have MOUs for the full volume there. We are working with the partners on conceptual work around the expansion and really trying to optimize that expansion from a cost basis. and from a timing perspective. So we do continue to see long-term growth in the LNG business. But again, we take a very disciplined capital allocation approach. We will build the projects when they have contracts and when the customer's demand is there and when our partners want us to move forward.

Great. That's really helpful. Thank you. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Sophie Karp with GIMIC.

Hi. Good afternoon. Congrats on the quarter, and thank you for the time.

Thanks, Sophie.

Thank you. Yeah, a lot of my questions have been answered, but I just wanted to see if you could maybe give us a little more color on Mexico, right, and what's happening there, just overall how you view that geography in your mix going forward to the last outside of the U.S. I guess, geography in the mix. And I'm just curious to hear a little bit more color on what you see on the ground there. Thank you.

Sophie, just to make sure I understand your question, you'd like a little bit more color on Mexico as a country and some of the macroeconomic developments?

Correct. That and the political landscape there as well and how that affects energy development. So a little bit, any update on your views there, if any, could be helpful.

Sure. Look, I think SEPRA has been an investor in Mexico for 22 years. We have roughly a $10 billion investment in Mexico in all aspects of the energy infrastructure business. It continues to be a country that we think has a great macro story. This is the number 15th economy in the world pre-COVID. Our internal forecast thought, Sophie, that this might be a number 7 economy in the world by 2040. Remember, it's 130 million consumers and it's one of the fastest growing consumer markets in the western hemisphere. You raised some good points. There certainly has been some disruption in terms of how the Moreno party has been administering the government and its approach to energy generally. Like I tell you, I had the good fortune of going to dinner with President Lopez Obrador and President Trump two weeks ago. There is true warmth and authenticity to that relationship. Obviously, the conversation two years ago or three years ago was more around the border. And today, there is broad recognition of the joint opportunity between both countries as they've set a priority of being able to bring back business and factories from Asia. So I think there's a real near-term opportunity for collaboration. And we think there's an opportunity for energy companies like ours that are not really a Canadian or U.S. or Spanish or Italian company. This is a Mexican business that we own 67% of in Mexico. It's one of the top 10 or 12 companies on the Balsa. They have scale. They've got great relationships. They've got the expertise. And our goal is to make sure that we put forward a great value proposition every time we have the opportunity to work with the government. And as you know, our business down there is increasingly one of a bilateral business with C&I customers and increasingly less reliant on the state-owned agencies. So I think near-term there is a lack of clarity around some of the policies that can impact the marketplace. We think the long-term macro story is intact.

Perfect. Thank you.

Thank you.

We'll take our next question from Steven Baird with Morgan Stanley.

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. Good morning, Steven. I wanted to go back to green hydrogen, and Semra certainly has been a thought leader there. While we're certainly excited about the growth in green hydrogen, I'm wondering just at a high level your thoughts on when green hydrogen would be economically viable for the utility sector. We can see applications in places like transportation, but the costs for green hydrogen continue to look, even as they're dropping, look relatively high compared to conventional gas, for example? And I was just curious at a high level, sort of the rough time frame over which you think green hydrogen may be viable for the utility business. Well, it's a good question, and I will start by telling you I don't have a perfect view of what the right answer is. I think the analogy that we've talked about on our senior team is photovoltaics. So photovoltaics, you know, have been pursued by our industry going back to the 1960s, and it was at SEPRA that we launched the first large-scale central station project In 2008, Steven, you may recall that was the Copper Mountain project. It was 10 megawatts. So that was 2008. And today, it's not uncommon to see a 500 megawatt project that's really, really price competitive and very much more price competitive than traditional fossil fire generation. So if we think about hydrogen, we see a similar opportunity. It clearly is early on the green hydrogen side. At best, it's the second half of this coming decade. A lot will determine on the cost curve and how much advances are made on the R&D side. I think given that uncertainty, it's important that not just Sempra, but a lot of other companies spend time and resources here because I think we have the chance to impact that cost curve and impact the commercial viability of green hydrogen. Particularly, when you think about California where we have periods of the year where we're long renewable resources and they cannot be used and you're actually trying to export them or pay contiguous states like Arizona to take that power. We have a real inefficiency certain times of the year and that production profile overlays very nicely with green hydrogen. So look, I think if there's going to be a breakthrough and there's going to be any development that moves it forward in time, California is the place where it will happen. That makes a lot of sense. And then just thinking about natural gas usage in the state, obviously California is doing some thinking around moving away from conventional natural gas. Do you have a sense of sort of the regulatory or other timelines or sort of milestones or other sort of proceedings that we should be at least thinking about as we look at that? Or is there really nothing definitive? It's just sort of a longer-term aspiration within the state? Yes. Look, there's a two-part process being led by the PUC today. There's a phase one review of the appropriate policies and impacts on natural gas that will lead to a phase two program. Both SDG&E and SoCalGas are active in those proceedings. But I think when you speak with a lot of consultants in the space and a lot of political leadership, look, there's a recognition that natural gas will play a long-term role in United States energy policy. in a long-term role in California's energy policy. Remember, as a decoupled state, Stephen, it's probably more than reasonable that natural gas could decline in some areas, maybe in our core customers. But with electrification, it's more likely than not that you're going to need to, number one, produce two or three or four times the electricity that we currently produce, and that's going to require more natural gas for power production. So I think what you should expect to see is because we're decoupled, Our interests are aligned with policymakers to make sure we're pursuing low-cost, low-carbon strategies. But electrification is a big deal, both in the United States and in California, and natural gas, particularly in power production, will more than likely increase rather than decrease. I think it's important, to your point, to make sure we get the long-term policy right, and that's why both of these proceedings at the PUC are very important and we'll be involved in it. Kevin, would you like to add some comments to that?

The only thing I'd add is around RNG, Renewable Natural Gas. The gas company set some pretty aggressive goals for itself, 5% by 2022 and 20% by 2030, and they're really making good progress on those goals in terms of getting projects online to capture. Methane is really bad for the climate, and so capturing it is an important part of the state's goals to mitigate GHG emissions and do something about climate change. We're excited about RNG, and you spoke about a regulatory construct that could be helpful, and that would be around an RPS for RNG. So if we could have some kind of RPS standard in the state around RNG, I'll be very supportive to more projects capturing them. So I'll turn it back over to you, Jeff.

I think those are all good points. I'll probably just conclude with the fact that just seven months ago, we got maybe one of the best general rate cases we've ever gotten in SoCal gas rights. they're very much privileged in system reliability and safety. They've got a 9-plus percent CAGR of capital deployment inside their rate base. So it's a pretty aggressive program they have going on. In fact, across all three of our utilities, when you think about our capital program, we have average rate base growth forecasted for the next five years of 9%. That's all really helpful, Collar. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

take our next question from michael lapides with goldman tax hey guys thank you for taking my questions congrats on a good first start first half of the year um i really have two questions one jeff you talk about the stock and you talk about the valuation and how you trade relative to peers but just curious do you think structurally california utilities and you still have significant presence there obviously it's your biggest business are structurally a lower multiple business relative to regulated companies in other states.

Let me just make sure I understand your question, Michael. And by the way, thank you for joining our call. I think your question is, when we think about SEMPRA's valuation, how much should it be impacted by structural issues in California? Is that what you're asking? Yeah.

Do you believe that inherently the market views California utilities as a lower multiple business relative to utilities in other states?

My initial instinct is no, but let me give you a little bit of false. Going back to the end of 2017, 80% of our earnings composition came from California. When we project out our earnings growth through 2022, roughly 50% of our earnings composition comes from California. What makes me feel good about the California story, Michael, is if you look at the remedial measures that were taken to make sure that we're not exposed to wildfire risk financially, particularly if you're previous, that's really important. But I think I would govern my view of it, Mike, by the quality of the rate case we got, right? And you've heard us talk about this before, but you got a remarkable rate case for SDG&E and SoCalGas. You also have a really high quality cost of capital. SPG&E's average cost of capital when you blend in the FERC cost of capital is about 10.4%. And then you've got this kind of runway now for really a five-year deployment of your revenue requirement, which we never had before. So as long as I've been around the business, I've never been able to have that clear of a runway for what our authorized spending level is. So I go back to the cost of capital, the rate case, the remedial measures to make sure that we've mitigated risk in the environment, and overall, One thing I think that people miss sometimes, Michael, and we've been kind of zealous about it here at our company is, you know, the key for utilities is to make sure you're in markets that have a lot of economic expansion, population growth, and great regulation. And when you measure those three categories, California still looks like a premium market as does Texas. So we're pleased to have kind of a tier one position here and a tier one position in Texas It's that underlying economic growth, not just capital deployed for safety or reliability. It gives you this long-term opportunity to deploy capital. Got it.

Thank you for that, Jeff. Just curious on the LNG fund. I'm really thinking just about Cameron 1 through 3.

Can you remind us in the next five years or so or the next three to five years how much cash? I know you talk about how much you're going to get out of the life of the project, but just six, three to five years, how much cash you think you get, or how should we think about the annual run rate of cash coming out of Cameron one, two, three?

Right. So what we've said publicly in the past, now I'll review it with you is, you know, we've talked about having just from Cameron itself, you know, a 400 to $450 million a year run rate. I think in our latest estimates, Michael, I might revise that to be a little bit higher. We have some more work to be done on that. We think we have much more clear vision to the runway for going forward. I think that over the next couple of years, 2021, it goes up quite significantly. It's closer to $650 million. And then it has a steady state around $450 to $475. So over the life of the project, it's going to be greater than $12 billion of cash after debt service. On a run rate basis, it's going to be closer to the high end of that $400 to $450. And the next year, just because of how some of the amortization schedules work, you're going to have a little higher cash back to the company in 2021. Got it. Thank you, Jeff. Much appreciated.

I'll follow up with your team offline. I appreciate it, Michael.

Our next question comes from Ryan Levine with Citi.

Ryan, based on the current business outlook and recent 2020 guidance revision, Is there any color you're able to share about the current outlook for 2021 guidance and drivers within the range? Well, you know, I think one of the things I go back to Ryan was you may recall when we were all together virtually in our, our investor day, you know, we talked about the aid system we have to prioritize our activity, uh, really around trying to deliver our financial goals. And I think, uh, if you think about 2019, We've set forward an EPS guidance range and during the year we guided to the high end of the range and we were very pleased, Ryan, that we were able to exceed that range on our February calls when we announced our Q4 results. This year, you'll call. We've set a guidance range for 2020 and we've been able to guide higher in that range on the May call and then on June 30th, you know, we guided and actually adjusted our range actually raised in the low end of our range about $0.50. So as we think about 2021, I think we're pleased today, Ryan, to affirm our guidance for 2021. We have some more work to be done here, but we have an evergreen planning process. It goes on constantly. And I think that what I would characterize for 2021 is we're on our front foot, right? You're going to have positive uplift from Cameron moving to full run rate. You're going to have, you know, the... Earnings from South America will get backed out for 2021. We feel good about it. We just have more work to be done, and if we get through that work and it seems like we should adjust the 2021 number, we will. I think our pattern and practice, Ryan, has been to under-promise and then work really, really hard to exceed expectations.

Thank you.

And then what was the average price that the $500 million buyback was purchased at, and was this previewed with the rating agencies?

And then going forward, what credit parameters or guideposts are you looking at when deciding on share buyback amounts and potential timing in future years?

I'll start with the credit metrics, and I'll pass it to Trevor to talk about the weighted average share repurchase price. But we've been pretty consistent on our credit metrics during our slide presentation today. We remain on track to meet those by the end of the year, and those have been commitments we've made over multiple years, so we don't see any change to the credit metrics, but Perhaps, Trevor, you could speak to the repurchase program.

Sure, Jeff. So, Ryan, what we did is we had an ASR, the Accelerated Stock Repurchase Program, for the last 30 days, and the weighted average price of that was $122. Great. Thank you. Oh, and just, I guess, one in terms of rating preview, rating agency preview.

Was that done in advance or not? Ryan, repeat the question again, please. Was this previewed with the rating agencies?

Yeah, we have talked to the rating agencies about this, you know, recently as to what our overall plan is and where we're anticipating to get to by the end of the year.

And the best way I would comment on that, Ryan, if you want kind of a short-form approach is that we've laid out a capital program. In that capital program, we were able to move some capital out this year into future years That was a $500 million shift in our capital deployment. And what we really did was redeploy that capital right into buying our shares at what we think is a very attractive price.

Appreciate it. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Anthony Cradell with Mizuho.

Good morning, Jeff. Hope all is well with you and your family. Just a quick question. If I go back to the potential for the $2 billion share repurchase authorization, can I think of that as a placeholder for LNG? I know you spoke about the strength of your LNG model, but if that gets pushed out further, maybe because of the COVID impact or something, could you think about the $2 billion share repurchase as a placeholder for that?

Anthony, that's actually a very interesting question. I would probably frame it by saying that the last authorization that we were working on with our board was put in place in 2007. It really gave management the opportunity to look for points in time where we thought the stock was undervalued. I think we're certainly in one of those points of time today. I mean, we're very, very bullish on how attractively our stock is priced today. I don't know that I would associate it directly with LNG, but I think the way we've described our capital allocation process this year, where we fund our first-order priorities, particularly around our utilities, we make a commitment to pay down parent debt, and deliver our credit metrics to the rating agencies. If there's opportunities either from a sale or divestiture of an asset or cash flow from other parts of our business or deferrals of CapEx, we will always be looking for opportunities periodically to be opportunistic to support our stock.

Great. Thanks so much. Thanks for taking my question. I appreciate it. Thank you.

We'll take our next question. Next question from Eric Dumas with Barclays.

Hey, guys. This is Ian for Eric. Thanks for taking my question. I'll keep it quick for the hour mark. But on Mexico, you know, you guys highlighted some of the sort of near-term noise that might be impacting the public share price at this point. Just thought it would be good to get some commentary. I know a lot of people on this call sit on the board. for ENOVA about how SEMPRA sort of represents interests and, you know, what kind of strategic levers are available to, you know, de-risk the state, whether that be, you know, the interplay between payout ratio and credit metrics and things like that, and just generally sort of what the strategic direction for ENOVA looks like?

Sure. I would say that we have, you know, 11 members on the board on ENOVA. Six come from Sempera, plus Carlos, Luis, and Tanya. We are very active in terms of how they build their capital program, how they manage their balance sheet. Certainly, when you think about that business, it's very rare in Mexico to see a business of this scale with U.S. dollar-denominated revenues. And when you think about the tenor of that portfolio, they've really been able to assemble a very, very attractive basket of assets. And remember, our long-term goal is We don't want to invest outside of our utilities unless we think that we can risk adjust those cash flows to match the expectations from a risk-reward standpoint of our U.S.-based utility. So the one development that's taken place down there that kind of goes to the issue you're speaking of is over time, we now have the majority of our revenues coming from non-government entities, and I think we see that trend continuing over time. And I think there will be periods in our investments in Mexico where we slow our capital spending, we preserve asset value, and we leverage the value of our dividend for purposes of our shareholders. But the long-term story is intact. And maybe Faisal, I know you're on the board of directors, and maybe you can provide some thoughts in terms of how they manage the balance sheet and expectations in terms of creating value in Mexico.

No, I think that in the current environment, we want to be very disciplined in terms of how we allocate capital. in Mexico, and that's through either deferring capital, continuing to look at the dividend, continue to buy back stock in Mexico. Those are three of the biggest levers that we have in order to create value in Mexico. And so the board is very focused on discipline in the current environment. Clearly, ECHA is a great opportunity for us to create a lot of shareholder value, and that's where the focus is going to be going forward. So I think it's It's pretty straightforward from the way we look at it at the board level. There's the opportunity in LNG, and then there's the ability to be disciplined in how we allocate capital to the rest of the business and to shareholders.

Okay, yeah, that's helpful. And then just on the scenario permitting process, can you just give an update on where that stands and sort of what the remaining bureaucratic hangups might be?

This is Jeff. I would just make a couple comments. Number one is it's a novel request, right? So traditionally... state-owned enterprises have the domain and responsibility for the export of hydrocarbons. This would be the first permit that they've issued that authorizes the export of hydrocarbons by a private entity, number one. Number two, the government has largely been shut down because of the pandemic. I think Mexico today ranks number three in the world in terms of impact from the virus and death. So they've been going through a really difficult situation economically, and that's impacted, obviously, the function of the government. But I would say this, and I've mentioned it several times. I think that all the things that you would expect us to be doing as a company, both at SEMPRA and at ENOVA, in terms of relationships and value proposition and following up with folks, we're doing that. I wish we could have delivered the scenario permit in Q4 of last year. This thing has gone on a little bit further than you would probably think reasonable. But look, there's been a lot of extenuating circumstances, the conversations, remain quite positive, and I'm optimistic that we'll get the permit later in Q3. Great.

Thanks, guys.

Appreciate it.

We'll take our next question from Paul Patterson, Glenrock Associates.

Hey, good morning. How are you doing? Hey, Paul. Almost all my questions have been answered. Just really, just back to the franchise agreement with San Diego, what's a little unusual I guess, is this idea of having a competition, so to speak. And what's unclear to me, because you guys own all these facilities there and everything, what would happen if, in fact, the franchise was actually awarded to another party? What would be the process from there, if you follow what I'm saying? As you mentioned, you're negotiating these around the state and and I've obviously seen them around in other places, but I've never seen a situation where there's an actual competitive bid, so to speak, for the franchise. What would it mean if it was actually awarded to somebody else?

I would probably say, Paul, the most probable answer is the simplest answer, which is, in this case, the franchise and the city charter requires a competition, right? It requires they go out and compete. So I don't know how this is done in other jurisdictions, but in San Diego, This is a requirement in the city charge. This is not like an anomaly that they're doing something outside of what they're required to do. And our approach really is to make sure that we, as I indicated earlier, we approach this with a dose of humility. We put forward a really, really attractive partnership campaign. I think you can look at other jurisdictions. I think Boulder, Colorado is an example. Many big things turn into very extended long-term contests. We don't think that's desirable for anyone. I think what we want to do is use this, Paul, as an opportunity for our company to get better and reassess our strengths and make sure we put forward commitments that we can stand behind that can take a century-old relationship and make it better.

Okay. But just to sort of understand it, though, there would be a completely different process if there was the franchise award to somebody else that would It wouldn't be surprising if that resulted in a lot of litigation and cost, et cetera, if I understand that correctly. Is that a way to think about it?

I don't know if I would characterize it as litigation. I can tell you that our focus and attention is on controlling what we can control, which is we want to put forward the best, most compelling value proposition to the city. These are our neighbors, right? This is a place we care about a lot, so we're going to play to win, Paul, and I think That's the 100% focus of our attention.

Okay. Thanks so much. I appreciate it. Thank you for joining the call.

It appears there are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the conference back to Mr. Jeff Martin for our closing remarks.

Thank you all for joining us today. This concludes our call. Most importantly, I hope each of you stay safe and healthy. Feel free per custom to reach out to our IR team with any additional questions.

Thank you again.