StarTek, Inc.

Q4 2020 Earnings Conference Call

3/15/2021

spk07: Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in today's conference call to discuss StarTech's financial results for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31, 2020. Joining us today are StarTech's Executive Chairman and Global CEO, Agarup Sengupta, the company's CFO, Vikash Surekha, and the company's President, Rajiv Ahuja. Following their remarks, we'll open the call for your questions. Before we continue, we would like to remind all participants that the discussions today may contain certain statements which are forward-looking in nature pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. These statements are based on information currently available to us and are subject to the various risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. StarTech advises all those listening to this call to review the latest 10Q and 10K posted on its website for a summary of the risks and uncertainties. StarTech does not undertake the responsibility to update any forward-looking statements. Further, the discussion today may include some non-GAAP measures. In accordance with Regulation G, the company has reconciled these amounts back to the closest GAAP-based measurements. The reconciliations can be found in the earnings release on the investor section of their website. I would like to remind everyone that a webcast replay of today's call will be available via the investor section of the company's website at www.startech.com. Now I would like to turn the call over to StarTech's Executive Chairman and Global CEO, Agarwal Sengupta. Sir, please proceed.
spk05: Thank you very much, Dilem. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you all for joining. As we closed out 2020, we drove record results across nearly every key financial metric during the fourth quarter. In addition to generating solid growth and benefiting from seasonal strengths within our existing client network, we maintained our keen organization-wide focus on cost management during the quarter. These catalysts helped us drive both sequential and year-over-year profitability improvements with record performance on both gross profit and adjusted EBITDA. Our accomplishments this quarter and throughout 2020 is a testament to the diligent, tireless work of our global teams. Q4 typically serves as a higher volume period for our business as we help our clients manage elevated customer demand around the holidays. This holiday season served as a particularly high demand period for our e-commerce clients as it processed increased customer order volumes and facilitated more frequent customer service interactions. In addition, we experienced robust volumes for clients in our healthcare and education verticals. While clients in these three verticals experienced strong tailwinds toward 2020, our revamped Technological capabilities and organization-wide efficiency added even greater value to their experience management capabilities during this period. This, in turn, opened up new lines of business for us during the quarter and into 2021, providing additional opportunities for bringing our more robust, optimized suite of services to the market. On a broader scale, we advanced our recovery from the mid-year lows of the pandemic at a healthy pace. As of today, approximately 98% of our pre-COVID global workforce is active and providing our usual high-quality service for our clients and their customers. Further, to preserve our team's health and adhere to current pandemic-related restrictions around the world, we have about 55% of our workforce working remotely and the other 43% working out of brick-and-mortar campuses. Our StarTech Cloud omnichannel platform has allowed us to seamlessly facilitate this hybrid work environment with capabilities that enable team members to work productively from any remote device while preserving the continuity and security of our customer interactions. Rajiv will be on the call later to discuss our operational progress in further detail, but I'm extremely proud of how StarTech has emerged as the last year's challenges as stronger, more efficient organization. StarTech Cloud has also served as an exciting catalyst for our renewed long-term focus on advancing our digital initiative. We anticipate that the hybrid remote work structure is here to stay for the long term, and as such, expanding our digital capabilities will help fuel our revenue growth and operating leverage going forward. As we recently announced, we have made a strategic minority investment in CSS Corp, an IT services and technology support company that provides mission-critical AI, automation, analytics, cloud, and digital solutions. CSS serves high-growth technology customers across five continents with a platform-based service model that is well-suited for optimizing the future of technology-driven customer engagement. As part of our evolving digital-driven go-to-market strategy, we will work with CSS as a sister organization to develop areas of collaboration over the next three to six months, primarily in three areas. One, develop a go-to-market strategy to leverage CSS platform-based technology support services to our existing customers and develop new customer opportunities for these services. Enhance complementary value creation by creating new service offerings by leveraging our service delivery capabilities under StarTech Cloud and the focus service offerings from CSS across AI, automation, analytics, cloud, and digital solutions. And three, develop cross-sell opportunities at arm's length basis where we can bring additional value to customers by leveraging the additional service offerings and enhanced footprint of the companies. These are early days, and we will work to develop and define areas of collaboration that allow StarTech and CSS to maintain their distinct identities and value proposition to customers while being able to leverage each other in a pragmatic and a dynamic way. I want to reiterate how proud I am of the progress we sustained throughout 2020 and of our team's incredible adaptability within the most challenging global conditions we have ever faced. Now, for a more comprehensive overview of our fourth quarter and a full-year financial performance, I'll turn the call over to a new CFO, Vikash Surekha. Vikash brings 25 years of extensive finance experience to StarTech, having previously served as a CFO of IBS Software and held financial leadership positions at Wipro Limited and App Labs Technologies. We are grateful for Ramesh Kama's significant contribution during this past two years as CFO. With that said, please join me in welcoming Vikash to the call as he joins StarTech during an important juncture in our company's evolution. Vikash?
spk02: Thank you for the warm introduction, Aproop. I'm equally excited and honored to lead the finance organization of StarTech as we embark on our next phase of growth and digital expansion. Jumping right into our results, Net revenue in Q4 increased to 174.5 million, up 7.2% from Q3, and up slightly from 171.6 million in the year-ago quarter. This sequential and year-over-year growth reflects elevated demand and seasonal strength within our existing client base. On a constant currency basis, net revenue increased by 4.7% compared to the year-ago quarter. Gross profit for Q4 increased to 30.9 million, which is up 34.9% from Q3 and up 12% from 27.6 million in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin increased to 17.7%, which is up 360 basis points compared to 14.1% in Q3 and up 160 basis points from 16.1% in the year-ago quarter. Similar to our top line, the sequential and year-over-year increases in gross profit and margin reflect strong growth within our client base and a greater revenue mix of higher margin digital services. The Q4 gross profit includes benefits from government grants of $2.7 million. Selling general and administrative expenses for Q4 were $15.4 million compared to $14.9 million in Q3, but decreased relative to $19.4 million in the year-ago quarter. As a percentage of revenue, SG&A improved to 8.8% compared to 9.1% in Q3 and 11.3% in the year-ago quarter, reflecting the continued benefits of cost reductions we have implemented over the last 12 months. Net loss attributable to StarTech shareholders for Q4 was 7.6 million or minus 19 cents per shareholder. compared to a net income of 0.4 million or 1 cent per share in Q3 and a loss of 5.3 million or minus 14 cents per share in the year-ago quarter. Net loss in the fourth quarter of 2020 include 13.2 million goodwill impairment caused by reduced business outlook in India, Australia and South Africa due to COVID-19 impact, and devaluation of local currency in Argentina. Adjusted EBITDA in Q4 increased to 23.2 million, up nearly 49% from Q3 and up 38.2% compared to the year-ago quarter. As a percentage of revenue, adjusted EBITDA increased to 13.3%, up 370 basis points compared to 9.6% in Q3 and up 350 basis points compared to 9.8% in the year-ago quarter. The increase was primarily driven by our aforementioned revenue growth, margin expansion, and cost reductions, as well as incremental government grants that we received in certain regions. Adjusted for incremental grants, our adjusted EBITDA for fourth quarter was 20.5 million. From a balance sheet perspective, at December 31st, our cash and restricted cash was 50.6 million, compared to 56.6 million at September 30, 2020, with a decrease due to higher capital expenditure incurred in Q4. Total debt at 31 December 2020 remained flat at 136 million compared to September 30, 2020. Net debt at December 31, 2020 was 85.4 million compared to 79.4 million at September 30, 2020. We continue to remain comfortable with our liquidity position as it stands today and focus on prudently managing non-essential expenses and other costs to preserve the optimal efficiency of our operations. Now, let me briefly review StarTech's full year 2020 performance. Net revenue in 2020 was 640.2 million compared to 657.9 million in 2019. The overall decline was led by adverse forex movements particularly in Argentina and India. On a constant currency basis, net revenue increased by 0.9% compared to 2019. The COVID-19 induced impact on revenue we witnessed during Q1 and Q2 was offset by elevated seasonal volume in the second half of 2020. Gross profit in 2020 was 89.6 million compared to 110.9 million in 2019, and gross margin was 14% compared to 16.9% in 2019. Adjusted EBITDA in 2020 was 58.1 million compared to 52.1 million in 2019. This represents an increase of 11.6%. As a percentage of revenue, adjusted EBITDA was 9.1% in 2020 115 basis points compared to 7.9% in 2019. While gross profit reduction was driven by higher costs relative to revenues in our geographies that were severely impacted by COVID-19, the overall adjusted EBITDA increase was driven by our ongoing actions on cost reduction and continued focus on prudent cost management. Net loss attributable to StarTech shareholders in 2020 was $39 million or minus 99 cents per share compared to a net loss of 15 million or minus 39 cents per share in 2019. Net loss in 2020 included 35.9 million goodwill impairment we recorded in 2020. As I mentioned before, we have entered 2021 with a strong financial and operational foundation and have taken additional steps to advance our progress. Subsequent to fourth quarter, our wholly owned subsidiary, CSP Alpha Holdings, successfully completed a debt refinancing with a newly secured $185 million senior debt facility, which comprises a $165 million term loan and a $20 million revolving credit facility. The term loan bears a moratorium on principal repayment for 21 months and will amortize on a quarterly basis beginning in November 2022. This facility further expands our liquidity position and enables us to extend the maturities of our debt. With the current flexibility of a balance sheet, we are well poised to not only support our ongoing operation, but also capitalize on strategic opportunities to drive long-term accretive growth. This concludes my prepared remarks. I will now turn the call over to Rajiv. Rajiv, over to you.
spk04: Thank you, Vikash. To reiterate a few of the things mentioned at the beginning of the call, we have made excellent progress with driving organizational efficiencies and we are fully utilizing and optimizing our technology throughout 2020. Arctic Cloud has continued to play a key role in keeping our global workforce connected and highly productive. Whether our team members are working from home, or in one of our campuses. We successfully implemented an RPA solution for one of the largest e-commerce companies in India and implemented a social media suite, Visa, for a global leader in IT hardware and consumer electronics. We continue to invest in developing new solutions and tools for our customers and have developed an in-house communication and collaboration tool called Next chat. We have also developed an after-call work automation solution with a partner to drive further efficiencies in call handling. In addition, our centralized virtual global command center has been a crucial resource for keeping track of our customer experience touchpoints all across our network. Being able to monitor our effectiveness around the world has allowed us to ensure the best possible productivity and continuity of our operations and client service. The success we have driven with our hybrid and work from home solutions has helped us solidify our real estate capacity planning for 2021 and going forward. We are still working towards our long term targets of having 30% of our global workforce working remotely and the majority, 70%, working in our brick and mortar campuses. We will continue to look and monitor closely the needs of our clients and any potential changes in lockdown status around the world that may change our targeted ratio or timeline for achieving it. However, things are certainly continuing to look better around the world as we hopefully soon move past the pandemic. Consumers increasingly expect seamless and instantaneous service with fast response times and solutions that are highly tailored to their specific needs. As such, we recognize that our platform should not only provide these types of experiences, but also continuously collect and act upon the data needed to advance our capabilities even further. With greater infrastructure in areas like AI and cognitive analytics, we gain further insight into how to strengthen our customer experiences through the entire customer lifecycle from initial acquisition to long-term retention. This ultimately promotes long-term customer and client growth and allows us to continue attracting high-growth, high-margin clients who need top-tier solutions for their enterprises. We're not looking to be the low-cost provider in the market, but instead a premium, first-class provider.
spk03: A premium, first-class provider that the leading companies in the world could turn to.
spk04: We have just about emerged from the most challenging global operating environment we have ever faced, an environment that is full of volatility, uncertainty, and change, which is why I am proud to say that the progress we have made over the past year has been nothing short of remarkable, and the numbers that have just been announced back this thesis of mine. We have emerged stronger and more resilient, and this journey would not have been possible without the agility displayed by our global operating teams. While the vaccine is out there and we're all hoping life starts heading back to normalcy, we have also learned that in a way, we are just getting started. And we have plenty of growth opportunities ahead to capture in 2021 and beyond. With that, I'd now like to pass the call back to our group
spk05: Thanks, Rajiv. If there is one point that 2020 has proved, it is that the environments in which we work and our customer service take place are rapidly evolving. These shifts occurring through and beyond the unique pressures that last year's pandemic-related challenges placed on our business and BPOs around the world. The sudden transition that we and many organizations, had had to make towards remote work threatened to diminish the level of visibility we had in our global operational performance, let alone the continuity of our services. Across client verticals we serve, businesses have had to quickly scale and strengthen their infrastructure to not only facilitate remote and hybrid work for their teams, but also provide digital optionality for their customers amid COVID-19 restrictions. on physical shopping and other transactions and service-based experiences. As this pandemic restrictions gradually ease, this trends towards digital-led customer experiences will not slow and revert back to old ways. We are proud to build such a dynamic and agile operational framework that allowed us to persevere through the pandemic, but prouder still that we are making The investments necessary for expanding this foundation into an even more advanced and comprehensive suite of digital services. The strength of our balance sheet and the many growth opportunities have placed us in a prime position to continue our operational momentum through 2021. At this important inflection point of our company, we have tremendous flexibility to continue optimizing our services and making key investments in support of our long-term profitable growth strategy. So, Dylan, we will now open the call for questions.
spk07: Thank you, sir. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1 on your telephone. To withdraw your question, please press the pound key. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. I show our first question comes from the line of Dave Conan from Baird. Please go ahead.
spk06: Yeah. Hey, guys. Thanks. Nice job. And I guess, you know, my first question, I just wonder about a couple of what looks like one-off items, the government grant that you got, if that's sustainable. And then secondly, it looked like your non-controlling interest line, the negative $3.35 million, that implies really good profitability from that business if that's sustainable. So I guess those two things, just wondering about any sustainability or recurring nature of those two.
spk05: Vikash, will you take that?
spk02: Yeah, I didn't kind of get the second question, but on the first question, usually we do get certain government grants, but this time in Q4, we did get additional incremental grants of about $2.7 million. That clearly is not sustainable on a long-term basis. I didn't follow the second question, please. Can you repeat it?
spk06: Oh, yeah, sure. So the second question, the non-controlling interest line, you know, below the income was $3.35 million. So it implies, it seems to imply really good profitability within that interest. And just wondering if that's sustainable.
spk02: Yes. Yeah, that is sustainable into the future. Of course, there's always, you know, you'll always find that our Q4 volumes are higher. So that drives higher profitability and revenue. But adjusted for that, it is sustainable.
spk06: Okay, good. And then I guess my one other question, the interest expense now with the refi, how should we think about the interest expense on a quarterly basis or full-year basis going forward?
spk02: If you see the gross debt of the company, in Q3 we were at $136 million, and that continues to be at $136 million. And the new refinancing that we have done that takes our gross debt to $185 million is Of that, we expect about $165 million to be used up, right, and the balance will be available for us for working capital needs as we go forward. But broadly, on the $165 million, our overall interest rates will be linked to LIBOR. So to that extent, you know, you will see an uptick in interest expenses, but the yield will be very similar. Gotcha.
spk06: Okay. Well, thanks. Good job, guys. Thank you. Thank you.
spk07: Thank you. I assure our next question comes from the line of Zach Cummins from B. Riley. Please go ahead.
spk00: Yeah. Hi. Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions, and congrats on the strong end of the year. It's really been impressive to see the business really turn around from the trough in mid-year of 2020 to see where you are now. I mean, in terms of the pace of business, I mean, can you comment on kind of what you've seen exiting Q4 and thus far into Q1 of this year? It seems like you are pretty confident in your growth prospects going forward.
spk05: Yeah, I think I'll give a very high level, and Rajiv will cover a little bit more. Clearly, pandemic was something that everybody learned, and just not us, I mean, including the customers. they also realized that there could be a new normal and therefore we attempted to do things. There were changes in behaviors that clearly was visible in terms of people unable to go to shops and therefore e-commerce took an uptake. So all this put together plus a potential thought of going back to normal life has induced in the added behavior of customers to engage in customer service-related activities like e-commerce and educational sectors. They showed some growth momentum. Overall, we feel that there is a growth momentum ahead of us. Therefore, we never realized that we will be able to accomplish this. Looking at, if you remember, Zach, when we talked in Q2, this was something which was almost unthinkable. But I would say that we worked together as a team. We were very resilient. We responded to situations at a very agile manner, and Rajeev will cover how our global command center was looking at things on a minute-to-minute, hourly basis, and therefore we took decisions and we moved ahead. At the same time, we conserved and preserved. On the customer behavior side, Rajeev, would you like to make some comments?
spk03: Sure, approved. Thanks. Hey, Zach.
spk04: So if you remember, you know, one of the previous running calls we had discussed that, and this is when we were in the midst of the pandemic, as to what the future would look like. And at that point of time, A number of economists were saying that it could either be a W-shaped recovery, a V-shaped recovery, a U-shaped recovery, or an L-shaped recovery. I think going into Q4, what we saw was probably a V-shaped recovery. With the news of the vaccine getting out, I think business sentiment improved. And as such, some of the sectors started running hot. So obviously, we were the recipients of some of that added demand. The contraction in demand that we'd experienced across Q2 and Q3 especially started easing out. And slowly, gradually, that volume started picking up. I'll also take you back to what Manik said in one of our previous earning calls where where we had three broad mantras that we had laid out within the organization, which were slash, adapt, and rebuild. Well, we continue to slash, we continue to adapt, and we continue to rebuild. And I think it's a combination of the two that has led us to deliver a stellar Q4, and hopefully we'll be able to sustain that momentum as we move into the quarters to come.
spk00: Understood. That's helpful. And in terms of gross margins, I know you had a slight benefit from the government credit in this quarter, but, I mean, how are you thinking about gross margins on an ongoing basis as you continue to manage that balance between growth and profitability?
spk02: I can take that.
spk05: Yeah, Rajiv, go ahead. You can take that, please.
spk04: Sorry, okay. Yeah, Zach, I think we continue to focus on our direct and indirect costs. We continue to manage our labor very, very tightly. As we had mentioned in our prior calls, we had already given up 10% of our global capacity And we will look at, we will continue to examine ways and means to rationalize further the capacity that we are currently holding. And a combination of all these, you know, we are hoping we will continue to be able to deliver the gross margins that we have spent so far.
spk00: Understood. And then just a final one for me. With your investment into CSS Corp., I mean... I guess this will be a two-part question, but what will determine, I mean, the ultimate decision of whether you'll take a majority stake or not at some point down the road? And then just in relation to CSS's business model, I mean, can you give us a sense of their margin profile and their revenue streams? I get the sense they have more of a recurring revenue model with these technology-focused customers.
spk05: Yeah, so I'll take that. CSS Corp... for quite a long time. They are a great company. They primarily do tech support for technology-based companies. A lot of their customers are in the Silicon Valley, and these are all growth companies and high-growth companies. So their EBITDAs are in high teens in terms of profiles. And clearly, we initially did not have the balance sheet to buy CSS, to be very honest. So we said that we will take a minority position. Because what it does is it gives us the tech support capability. And as you know that we have already mentioned in our announcement that we have the ability to take a controlling stake of the company in the next two years. So we have kept both options. First option was that we have a position in that company and they become our sister company. And option two is that we have the ability to combine these two assets at some point in time in the next two years. But most importantly, I think what it gives us is the ability to synergize each other's capabilities, especially in the tech support area, especially in the digital area, where we can work together as teams.
spk00: Understood. Well, thanks for taking my questions, and congrats again on the really impressive progress you guys have made exiting this year and the potential growth ahead.
spk05: Thanks, Zach.
spk07: Thank you. I show our next question comes from the line of Omar Samalot of Prime Investor. Please go ahead. Hey, guys. How are you?
spk05: Hi, Omar. How are you?
spk07: Good to see you. Congratulations. What a great turnaround. What a great quarter. You guys, obviously, you've done almost the impossible. So my sincere congratulations to you.
spk05: Thank you.
spk07: I wanted to start with, you know, your margins progression. And I wanted to see if you could say to what extent would you say that margins were impacted by workforce hire or retraining as agents that return to in-campus environments faced you know, changes in programs or different processes because of all the different, you know, changes that were going on with COVID and the different approaches.
spk05: See, there is no standard answer to this because each situation is different and gross margin is a function of how do you manage the efficiency of a program. And the efficiency of the program is managed based on several counts. And Rajiv can elaborate that on a little bit more. But at a high level, as you know, we moved from a brick-and-mortar situation to an at-home situation. In the at-home situations, obviously, we had some uptake on maybe better utilization because we did not have absenteeism. If a person said that, yes, I'm ready, I mean, he's there. He's not absent. But in a brick-and-mortar situation, you design your operating metric almost on a daily basis, and then you have people who don't show up. So those are some of the advantages we had. So overall, margin behavior is a very complex subject. It's just not one or two criteria. Based on that, you can come up with forecasts. But yes, I mean, overall, margins have definitely improved, and thanks to additional volumes and thanks to a very large part of our workforce working from home. So these have added to the advantages and basically given us an uptake on the margins. Rajiv, would you like to add any more points and color to this? Because there's no specific answer for it.
spk04: Yeah, I think you kind of broadly summed it up, but just to add, to Omar just to qualify further. So Omar, I think what happened was when the pandemic broke, I think we were in a defensive formation at that point of time because we lit up a work-at-home solution and we had spoken it
spk03: Hello?
spk07: I think Reggie's, pardon me, I think Reggie's line disconnected. She'll be joining momentarily. Rajiv, you may proceed.
spk04: Yeah, thank you. My apologies, the call dropped. Am I audible? Yeah, sorry. So can I take a minute just to further qualify what I was saying? Okay, so I think what I dropped off was... that we were in a defensive formation. We had lit up a work at home solution, but we were stranded with a fair amount of capacity that we were paying for. And then what we did over a matter of time, over the next few quarters, was to release approximately 10% of our global capacity, which translates into approximately 4,500 seats, thereby offsetting some of those early losses. And then simultaneously as volume started picking up and a greater amount of our workforce came back on stream. And I take you back to what Aproop said during his opening remarks, whereby he gave you the split of what our active workforce looks like today versus the pre-COVID levels today. 98% of our workforce today is live and in production, split 55% and 43%, 55% being work at home and 43% being brick and mortar, which has helped us make sure that the pickup that we just spoke about resulted in us delivering the kind of numbers that Vikash just announced a few minutes ago.
spk07: Okay, that's very helpful. And maybe a quick follow-up on that. Are you able to quantify for us the improvement achieved in terms of capacity utilization rates from pre-COVID to now after shedding, you know, the idle excess capacity of, I think, over around 10% that you've mentioned?
spk04: Yeah, so great question, Omar. So, As we see demand picking up, our brick and mortar centers, we are now making sure that they are ready, willing, and able to receive new volume that our sales team is in hot pursuit of. We do not anticipate bringing it to a stage where we won't have any saleable seats that are left. So any number that I give you right now would include seats that we have specifically marked for new businesses to be coming in. And we are very hopeful as we move forward that with new business coming in we will have the capacity available. Because the last thing we want to do right now is to give up capacity and three months from now set about lighting up another altogether new facility. So any number that I give you right now will probably not be truly indicative of what the capacity utilization looks like because towards the beginning of the year, it'll probably be a misrepresentation because we've penciled in a certain number as growth across 2021 and a large part of these seats that are now vacant are have moved away from the stranded bracket to we are keeping them vacant so as to be able to receive new revenue.
spk07: Okay, got it. Okay.
spk05: Sorry, I like what dropped. Sorry about that.
spk07: Okay. In terms of your India market, I was wondering if you can talk about that for a minute, you know, the supply side. What is the status in terms of, you know, mass transit constraints and lockdowns as things have eased up a bit? And then on the demand side, you know, I've read a couple of articles and press releases that, you know, mentioned that over 2,000 people were hired during October to address the increase in demand in both Hindi and English languages. And I also saw a recent article where Rajiv was quoted saying that 2021 are expected to increase headcount by 3,000 to 4,000 in the year. So I was wondering maybe how much of that was for the India market and any comments that you can provide for that.
spk04: Sure. And once again, I think I've got to be careful of what I say considering, Omar, you're following most of whatever I'm I'm getting published out there, so thank you for giving me that advance warning. But going back to some of what I've been quoted on, that was as a result of us acquiring in India a few logos. So we've started the year on a good note, and we hope to continue to increase our share of the wallet with these new clients that we have acquired. On the other hand, Our operating teams, our program management teams, as well as our sales teams have done a phenomenal job in India growing existing client relationships and acquiring new lines of businesses from existing clients. And that is why I put together the sum of all that and said we're hiring approximately close to 4,000 people very, very soon. across largely the Tier 2 and Tier 3 cities. And these, as you rightly pointed out, are largely domestic support, which basically means Hindi and some of the other regional languages that exist in India, coupled with English language support also in a number of lines of business.
spk07: Very good. That's very helpful. Okay.
spk04: To your question, sorry, Omar, to your question about mass transportation opening up, and I know we've discussed that on prior calls, slowly, gradually, India started easing up on its restrictions, and mass transportation has gradually, like I said, started improving. as a result of which our workforce now finds it far more easier to come into our brick and mortar centers. And that was a challenge that we had called out in prior calls. So every passing quarter, India is, you know, vaccination is now out there. I think India is probably the country that is vaccinated, if not the most, is probably the second most number of people that have already been vaccinated. So the sentiment is certainly improving, and we hope to be riding on that wave as we go to the next few quarters.
spk07: Very good, very good. Okay, and then my final question, I know you guys do not offer guidance, and I was wondering, you know, you seem to be in a much better position, you know, liquidity-wise, financially-wise, You've got great revenue diversification at this point, great cost realignment, a growth trajectory it seems, scalable operation, investment now in CSS. So I'm kind of wondering, you know, what do you think will give you the confidence at some point to, you know, maybe go out on a limb a little bit and offer some type of guidance in the future? Sure.
spk05: See, we continue to not provide guidance as a matter of principle even today, largely because we are still working on several fronts, and I think it is good to give thematic approach, and that's more important because end of the day, we have articulated from the very beginning that we will be a digital-led company, and And when we say that, we want to execute around that. So we have not only delivered at the back of pandemic a StarTech Cloud opportunity that is now available in the marketplace for our customers to take. We've also went ahead and diversified ourselves in terms of making a minority investment in CSS Corp, which is into very advanced analytics and AI and robotics. So that's the kind of guidance that we'll be able to give. In terms of numbers, they pan out depending on the cycles that you catch in terms of the early growth stage or the middle of the growth or the tail end of the growth and the new growth. So those are variables and it will not be wise for the management team to focus on that. The management team is focused on, I would say, behavior and belief And then you become. So the question is the market always wants what is going to become. But we will rather go and see how the become happens because it's at the back of belief and behavior. So that's what we as a team are focused on and we are driving and all of us together are driving towards those goals. And if you do those first two things right, which is believe and behave, become is going to be an ultimate byproduct. So it's a philosophical answer, but I think that's the best way that we feel comfortable in terms of driving, putting our heads down, and working towards the context that is ahead of us.
spk07: Okay, very good, very good. Well, thank you very much for taking my questions, and congratulations again, and good luck in the future. It looks very bright. Thank you.
spk03: Thank you, Omar.
spk01: Hello, Dylan?
spk05: Hello? Rajiv, are you able to hear me?
spk03: Yes, we can hear you. Dylan, are you there?
spk07: Yes, I am, sir.
spk04: I just wanted to check if there were any other questions queued up. Hello?
spk03: Dylan, are you there?
spk02: Rajiv, can you hear me?
spk04: Okay.
spk02: Yes, we can.
spk04: I think for some strange reason, probably Dylan is not able to hear us.
spk07: I can hear you.
spk04: Can you hear me? Okay. Yes, we can now hear you. Dylan, just wanted to check if there were any other questions that were queued up.
spk07: No, sir. I showed no additional questions. You may proceed with your closing remarks.
spk05: Okay. Thank you, Dylan, very much. And thank you all for joining us this afternoon and for your continued support of StarTech. I look forward to speaking with you next when we report on our first quarter results.
spk07: Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for attending today's conference call. This concludes the program. You may all disconnect. Good day.
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