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spk06: Good day, and welcome to the Sensato Technologies Q2 2023 earnings call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star, then two. Please note, this event is being recorded. And now we'll turn the conference over to Mr. Jacob Sayre, Vice President of Finance. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thank you, Keith. And good morning, everybody. I'd like to welcome you to Sensata's second quarter 2023 earnings conference call. Joining me on today's call are Jeff Cote, Sensata's CEO and President, and Paul Basington, Sensata's Chief Financial Officer. In addition to the financial results press release we issued earlier today, we will be referencing a slide presentation during today's conference call. The PDF for this presentation can be downloaded from Sensata's investor relations website. This conference call is being recorded and we will post a replay webcast on our investor relations website shortly after the conclusion of today's call. As we begin, I'd like to reference Sensata's safe harbor statement on slide two. During this conference call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding future events or the financial performance of the company that involve risks and uncertainty. The company's actual results may differ materially from the projections described in such statements. Factors that might cause such differences include, but are not limited to, those discussed in our Forms 10-Q and 10-K, as well as other subsequent filings with the SEC. We encourage you to review our GAAP financial statements in addition to today's presentation. Most of the information that we will discuss during today's call will relate to non-GAAP financial measures. Our GAAP and non-GAAP financials, including reconciliations, are included in our earnings release and in the appendices of our presentation materials. The company provides details of its segment operating income on slides 7 and 8 of the presentation, which are the primary measures management uses to evaluate the performance of the business. Jeff will begin today with highlights of our business results during the second quarter. He will then provide a few updates on exciting electrification product launches. Paul will cover our detailed financials for the second quarter, updates on capital deployment, and he will discuss our financial guidance for the third quarter of 2023. We'll then take your questions after our prepared remarks. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Sensata's CEO and President, Jeff Cote.
spk11: Thank you, Jacob, and welcome, everyone. I'll start with some summary thoughts on our robust performance during the second quarter, as outlined on slide three. During the second quarter, we produced a record $1,062,000,000 in revenue, up 4.1% from the prior year period and above our guidance range, despite a 140 basis point headwind from foreign currency. Adjusted operating income of $206 million was at the top end of our range. Adjusted operating income margins increased by 40 basis points from the prior year period, or 110 basis points on a constant currency basis. As we continue to focus on improving our margins, adjusted net income moved higher by 15% to $149 million. and adjusted earnings per share grew 17% from the prior period, or 23% on a constant currency basis, to a record 97 cents. Our customers' supply chains show meaningful signs of returning to normal. Consequently, we believe customers reduced channel inventory to better align material on hand with their production. We estimate this impact was approximately 20 million or 200 basis points across the company in the second quarter, concentrated in automotive and heavy vehicle off-road. Taking that into account, market outgrowth for the last 12 months remained within our target range of approximately 535 basis points. As we've said, outgrowth can be lumpy at any quarter, and the second quarter results continue to be impacted by electric vehicle launch schedules. We remain confident in our long-term outgrowth range, given our business wins, new product development activities, and future launch schedules. Outgrowth to market since the beginning of 2020 has averaged 735 basis points. I'm also pleased that we remain on track to achieve our long-term goal of $2 billion in electrification revenue across the company by 2026, with that revenue growing strongly in the second quarter. In a moment, I will outline exciting new product launches that will help further propel that growth. At the beginning of 2023, we outlined a shift in our capital deployment strategy based upon our confidence in our capabilities to effectively intersect the electrification growth factor and deliver innovative solutions to our customers. We continue to execute that strategy during the second quarter, removing variable rate debt from our balance sheet and returning capital to shareholders in the form of debt repayments, a dividend, and share repurchases. Considering current interest rate trends, that decision has made strong business sense. Our capital allocation strategy reduces risk in our capital structure, lowers interest expense, improves adjusted net income and earnings per share, as well as return on invested capital. The end markets Sensata serves are expected to experience significant change over the next 10 years as our customers transform their businesses and product portfolios to adjust to decarbonization trends. Electrification will impact all the end markets we serve. And as we have done repeatedly over our history, we've adapted to market trends. Sensata is focused on continually innovating to help customers solve their mission-critical, hard-to-do engineering challenges on this path toward electrification. As shown on slide four, I'd like to share some thoughts on new products that will help drive our electrification revenue going forward. In renewable power generation, solar energy developers and others are poised to benefit from global initiatives to decarbonize sources of energy, including last year's Inflation Reduction Act in the United States, which provides significant long-term funding to this industry. To address a key need for this industry, we are launching a fifth generation line of inverters that contain three times the power density of its predecessor, creating a highly attractive value proposition for customers. These products, which are launching this quarter, are designed to enable new solar and other renewable energy installations to connect seamlessly to the electricity grid. Serving the needs of these installations represents a fast growing $2.5 billion addressable market for Sensata. In addition, we have launched a new battery management system to help address the electrification needs of material handling work truck and bus OEMs. The BMS is an intelligent component of the battery pack, responsible for advanced monitoring and management of current. Think of it as the brain behind the battery. It plays a critical role in assessing the battery's safety performance, charge rates, and longevity. Sensata's N3 battery management system is ASIL-C and ISO certified off the shelf and offers software flexibility, thus reducing development time and cost for customers. These battery management systems seamlessly manage the very high power requirements that OEMs face and represent a $350 million addressable market by 2028. I'll now turn the call over to Paul.
spk09: Thank you, Jeff. Key highlights of the second quarter, as shown on slide six, include record revenue of $1,062,000,000, an increase of 4.1% in the second quarter of 2022. Revenue growth reflected market growth of approximately 2.5%, inventory contraction of approximately 2%, and market outgrowth of approximately 2.9%, as well as the net impact of acquisitions and divestitures in the quarter, partially offset by foreign currency headwinds. Adjusted operating income was $206 million, an increase of 6.2% compared to the second quarter of 2022. This increase was primarily due to higher volume, pricing, and productivity improvements partially offset by the impact from acquisitions and divesters last year and the unfavorable movements in foreign currencies. Adjusted operating margins improved 110 basis points in the prior year period on a constant currency basis due to operational improvements within the business. This represents very strong 39 percent incremental margins on a constant currency basis and over 80 percent incremental margins organically. Record adjusted earnings per share of $0.97 in the second quarter grew 17% in the prior year quarter, faster than adjusted operating income due to lower interest expense, a lower cash tax rate, and a lower share count. On a constant currency basis, adjusted earnings per share would have been $1.02, representing 23% growth in the prior year period. Now I'd like to comment on the performance of our two business segments in the second quarter of 2023, starting with performance sensing on slide seven. Our performance sensing business reported revenues of $757.4 million, an increase of 3.5 percent compared to the same quarter last year. Automotive revenue increased due to market growth, content launches, and higher pricing, partially offset by the unfavorable revenue mix inventory destocking, slow new product launch ramps in foreign currency. Growth in heavy vehicle off-road revenue reflects market and content growth, partially offset by inventory destocking and unfavorable foreign currency. Performance sensing operating income was 191.1 million with operating margins of 25.2 percent. Segment operating margins increased year-over-year largely due to improved pricing higher volumes, and productivity, partially offset by unfavorable foreign currency. Excluding the foreign currency impact, performance sensing operating margin would have been 26%. At the start of the quarter, CENSATA moved the reporting of certain material handling products from heavy vehicle off-road in performance sensing to industrial in sensing solutions to reflect changes in our reporting structure. Prior periods have been restated to reflect this change. As shown on slide eight, sensing solutions reported revenues of $304.7 million in the second quarter, an increase of 5.5% as compared to the same quarter last year. Industrial revenue increased due to strong acquired revenue growth in electrification, offset somewhat by weaker markets, especially in HVAC and appliance, and unfavorable foreign currency. Aerospace revenue increased strongly in the quarter due to market pricing, and content growth. Sensing Solutions' operating income was $84.2 million, with operating margins of 27.6 percent. The decrease in segment operating margin was primarily due to the net margin impact of acquisitions and expenditures of 400 basis points. Excluding the foreign currency impact, Sensing Solutions' operating margins would have remained the same at 27.6 percent. On slide nine, corporate and other operating expenses not included in segment operating income were $81.5 million in the second quarter of 2023. Adjusted for charges excluded from our non-GAAP results, corporate and other costs were $68.1 million, a decrease from the prior year quarter, primarily reflecting cost controls and lower incentive compensation. We expect to invest $60 to $70 million in Megatrend-related research and development this year to design and develop differentiated solutions to address trends impacting our customers' businesses. New business wins are a leading indicator of future outgrowth to market. Given the long cycle nature of our business, new business wins are tied to trends in our end markets and are best viewed on a multi-year basis. We expect to sign approximately 600 to 800 million of new business wins this year. representing a three-year average of nearly $800 million, a substantial increase from prior period averages. Moving to slide 10, our capital deployment strategy is steadily improving returns to shareholders, as indicated by our improving return on investment capital of 9.8 percent, up 50 basis points from the end of 2022. We generated $68 million in free cash flow during the second quarter, up substantially from the prior year period, and $371 million in free cash flow over the last 12 months, representing 65 percent conversion of adjusted net income. For the full year 2023, we expect free cash flow conversion to be approximately 75 percent of adjusted net income, consistent with Sensata's long-term average. Capital expenditures are expected to be in the range of $170 to $180 million for 2023. We paid down the balance of our outstanding variable rate term loan during the second quarter. Our net leverage ratio was 3.2 times at the end of June 2023, and we expect this to decline to below 2.5 times by the end of 2025, primarily through strong free cash flow generation. During the quarter, we returned $25 million to shareholders in the form of share repurchases. In addition, we recently announced our Q3 quarterly dividend of $0.12 per share that is expected to be paid on August 23rd to shareholders of record on August 9th. We are providing financial guidance for the third quarter of 2023 as shown on slide 11. Our expectations are based upon the end-market growth outlook shown on the right side of this page. We are aligned with IHS estimates for automotive production on a Sansata revenue-weighted basis. Foreign exchange represents an expected $6 million headwind to revenue, a 90 basis point headwind to adjusted operating margin, and a $0.03 headwind to adjusted EPS in the third quarter. Excluding the impact of FX, adjusted operating income margin expectations the third quarter represent a 60 basis point improvement from the prior year period our current fill rate is approximately 90 percent of the revenue guidance midpoints for the third quarter this is consistent with fill levels we experienced pre-pandemic and represent a return to normalcy of customers supply chain dynamics looking to the full year 2023 we now expect foreign exchange to be a 49 million headwind to revenue and a 20-cent hedging to adjusted earnings per share given current exchange rates. Now let me turn the call back over to Jeff for closing comments.
spk11: Thank you, Paul. Let me wrap up with a few key messages as outlined on slide 12. Sensata's business, organizational model, and growth strategy are strong, resilient, and validated. as we deliver mission-critical, highly engineered solutions required by our customers. While end markets are expected to remain volatile due to inflation, higher interest rates, the risk of recession in various geographies and geopolitical events, Sensata's strong management team provides proven experience in navigating choppy markets. We continue to execute on our growth initiatives as we transform the business to focus on rapid growth opportunities across all the end markets we serve. We are making excellent progress in electrification as demonstrated by strong new business wins and significant revenue growth. Our success in driving this transformation allows us to focus now on strengthening our financial returns through improved margins, stronger free cash flow, and higher returns on invested capital. As shown by the examples I discussed today, we continue to innovate for our customers, solving their difficult engineering challenges and providing differentiated solutions to a widening array of customers, while specifically leveraging our expanding electrification product set. Solving mission-critical challenges enables Sensata to earn long-term customer trust, as demonstrated by our expected 600 to 800 million in new business wins this year, and by delivering industry-leading margins for our shareholders. I'm pleased with our progress in delivering on Sensata's long-standing vision to help create a cleaner, safer, more electrified, and connected world. Not just for our customers' products, but also through our own operations, we strive to meaningfully contribute to a better world. We are making good progress on achieving our ESG targets, and I encourage you to read our latest sustainability report, which describes the long-term sustainability and success of the company for all of its stakeholders. And finally, I'm very excited about sharing our innovation path and strategy at an investor event in New York City on September 27th. You can find more details on our website regarding that event. Now I'll turn the call back to Jacob.
spk08: Thank you, Joe. We'll now move to Q&A. Keith, would you please introduce the first question?
spk06: Yes, thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touch-tone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To try your question, please press star then 2. This time we will pause momentarily to assemble the roster. And this morning's first question comes from Walt Z. Mohan with Bank of America.
spk02: Yes, thank you so much. Good morning. Jeff, your outgrowth in the first half is well below your long-term outgrowth. As you look over the next 12 months, can you talk about some of the puts and takes? And do you expect if inventory will still continue to be an overhang as it was 200 basis points in this quarter? And what are maybe some of the drivers that you think could possibly reverse over the next 12 months? particularly on outgrowth. And if I could, one for Paul as well. On the margin front, you had very, very strong incremental margins in the quarter that you noted. How should we think about the sustainability of these very strong incremental margins? Thank you.
spk11: Great. Thanks, Wamsi. So we discussed last quarter the expectation regarding outgrowth in the first half of this year, given some well-publicized delays around some electrification platforms that we're on. But again, we want to emphasize outgrowth and NBOs, for that matter, as indicators of long-term success. So we have no concerns regarding our long-term outgrowth. We're very comfortable with the 400 to 600 range of outgrowth. The last year, last 12 months, it's been 535 basis points. The last three years, a little more than three years, it's been 735 basis points. So I would encourage all to look at that as a long-term measure, not to look at an individual quarter in terms of the outgrowth. There are puts and takes regarding launches, mix of business and so forth that will impact that on a short-term measure. So I don't want it to confuse the view around secular long-term growth that we're very confident in. and we're sharing with investors the indicators around new business wins that will support that long-term. Regarding the inventory question, the couple of end markets where we're able to understand what inventory is, or at least we have a model that we believe gives us a view into inventory is around the automotive market. During the second quarter, about $20 million unwound. That would lead us to believe there's still about $20 million, but it's getting to the point, Wamsi, where it's not a meaningful... portion of inventory. We do really feel as though the order patterns from our customers and their inventory planning process is getting back to normal. I would credit that to not only changing market dynamics, but also how Sensata has served that market. If we are successful in delivering to our customers when they ask it, they'll get back to more normal order patterns and they won't carry extra inventory. So we're seeing that for sure. And I wouldn't expect it to be meaningful, but we'll continue to call out if we see inventory take out in the system that we believe is happening or build in the system just to provide that level of transparency. But again, it's not a meaningful impact.
spk09: Wansi, it's Paul. Good morning. So as we said, our cost structure as it stands today has the capacity to serve more volume. And so you're seeing that in the incremental margin. this quarter, where we're getting some better volumes. We're able to convert that at higher contribution rates. And, you know, for the foreseeable future, that's the kind of leverage I would expect until we get to a point where we need to start adding capacity and support incremental growth. But that would be, you know, the expectation, at least for the foreseeable future, in terms of what we should convert incremental volume at in that 35% to 40% range. Thanks so much.
spk06: Thank you. And the next question comes from Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs.
spk01: Yes, good morning. Thank you very much for taking the question. Your revenue guidance assumes the auto end market is down 5% year-on-year in 3Q. I believe you said you're assuming something similar to IHS. But maybe you could elaborate a bit more on what you're seeing by end market from – by region from your customers. And are you specifically trying to incorporate a strike in North America later in 3Q as part of your outlook?
spk11: Mark, thanks for that question. A couple of good points. So, yes, the guide of a billionaire midpoint of guide would represent about a 5.5%, 5.8% down from Q2 2023. Now, I'd note that that is, again, returning to more normal seasonality in the business. So, if you look back to 2018 and 2019, we saw a 4% to 6% decline from Q2 to Q3 associated with normal seasonality. So, that is again another indicator to us regarding more normal patterns in terms of the business that has been anything but normal over the last several years. And so I would view that decline from Q2 to Q3 as more normal. And also is down 2% from Q3 of last year. Where that's coming from is market, right? So it's our market estimation across all markets is down 5.5%. third quarter of last year to a third quarter of this year. We also have about a 60 basis point headwind associated with foreign exchange. So that's the driving factor, obviously, around the overall expectation regarding revenue down year over year on a quarter basis. Regarding individual markets, as we indicated, we're right on top of IHS in terms of production levels. They're forecasting auto to be down about 4%. And so we're down five when we waited for our impact associated with our business and the mix of our business, but pretty much in line with that. And what we're seeing is on a year-over-year basis, HVOR recovering a couple hundred basis points, arrow going up four or five percent, and then industrial, which is a very broad, diversified industrial market, down dramatically. And I think the best indicators of that are around PMI across the world. Remember, we have some concentration there on HVAC, major home appliance, lighting, industrial lighting. And so that's continued down consistent, actually, with where we were in the second quarter.
spk01: Yeah, that's a tough one. And then just specifically around a potential UAW strike in North America, is that something you try to incorporate at all within the range of guidance or just any more color on how you're thinking about that potential headwind in 3Q if that does in fact come to fruition? Thanks.
spk11: Yeah, great. Thank you for that one. So we are obviously keeping a very close eye on that. The indications that we hear from our customers is that's a potential for more of a late Q3, early Q4 impact We are not seeing anything associated with order patterns that would suggest that anybody's preparing for that, although I think everybody's watching it very closely. And it is not contemplated in our guide. And so obviously if there is a nearer term impact associated with that, then the impact on our revenue will be commensurate with the impact on overall production levels that result from anything on that. We're hoping for a positive outcome on that, but we're watching it very closely, but it's not contemplated in our billion midpoint of guide range.
spk10: Thanks, Mark, for the question.
spk06: Thank you. And the next question comes from Matt Sheeran with Stifel.
spk13: Yes, thank you. I'm hoping you can update us on pricing trends. It looks like it's been a tailwind for the last couple of quarters, less so in the coming quarter. So, what's happening there in terms of pricing, particularly in the auto market?
spk09: So, we continue to get positive pricing. It continues to more than offset the inflationary conditions around material prices that we've been experiencing for the last couple of years. So, it continues to be as positive through revenue and through profitability. Now, we are now going to start comparing to more difficult comps. So, the absolute increase quarter over quarter will be more challenging, but we're still positive on the pricing side.
spk13: Okay, great. And Jeff, could you update us on insights to the telematics business? I know you've made a lot of investments there. Could you give us an update on the business and the traction you're seeing?
spk11: Yeah, absolutely. So remember that the premise here is that the telematics ecosystem broadly, logistics and supply chains, benefit from more information. It makes their systems and their process more efficient and safe. We have a lot of sensors that can bring data to that. Our acquisitions have been around collecting that sensor data on equipment, getting it to a cloud, in some instances analyzing it and feeding it to customer fleet management systems. Continued positive trends in terms of what we see in terms of the opportunity there. The reality is it's a $180 million business. It's going to grow very nicely, but it's become increasingly clear as a company that our future is electrification. We'll continue to focus on insights as we will continue to focus on safe and efficient applications in other powertrains. But the future in terms of the trend and the acceleration of the trend associated with electrification is the area that we really need to be investing. Our megatrend investments have been disproportionately in the electrification area for some time now. and we'll continue to invest in Insights as a growth vector, but electrification is the future of the company given where our customers are going.
spk13: Got it. Okay, thank you.
spk11: Thanks, Matt.
spk13: Thank you.
spk06: The next question comes from Christopher Glenn with Appenheimer.
spk03: Thank you. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Any comments or expectations, aspirations around the market capture? Sure. You see Sensata able to harness for the Compact Power 5?
spk11: So on the inverter side, is that what you're referring to, Chris?
spk03: Yes, Jeff.
spk11: Yeah, so recall last July we acquired Dynapower, which was an industrial-grade converter business serving that market. The business has performed very well. And we're really excited about the opportunity here associated with these new product launches that will really play well in terms of the overall market. It is a large market. There are some very niche areas that Dynapower is focused on associated with defense-related application, but also hydrogen and other applications where we have targeted as being meaningful opportunities for us. And I think if you follow sort of the trends associated with renewable energy, those are areas that will continue to see very strong investment from governments around the world. So we feel great about that, and we're going to continue to make sure that we execute and market to bring that. This is part of our electrification strategy. I think that most tend to think of Sensata as a component play with OEMs. This is building on our view that with the electrification of all this equipment, there will need to be significant and considerable investment around grid hardening associated with the global infrastructure and dyna power, as well as, if you recall, lithium balance around battery management and other applications. That's our play in that area. And so we're feeling really positive about it. Thanks, Chris.
spk06: Thanks. Thank you. And the next question comes from Luke Young with Baird.
spk04: Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I just want to circle back on the auto trends and if you could just maybe help us understand the magnitude, at least on a relative basis, of the auto headwinds you said this quarter. So I'm thinking channel inventory to stocking, you call that out as 200 bps overall. Maybe if we could comment on auto specifically plus the adverse mix and launch delays. Are those latter two similar or is there one of those factors that's having a more meaningful impact? And then as we look to 3Q and beyond, just how sticky each of those might or might not be? Thank you.
spk11: Yeah, absolutely. So we're not anticipating more channel destocking in our guide right now. So it's largely driven by the overall market. IHS forecast production to be down 4% in the third quarter versus third quarter of last year. That's going to come largely in China. So China is expected to be the one that's down the most. And so we're pretty much mirroring the impact associated with that. So that's the big driver in terms of really auto decline year over year and quarter over quarter, but also the company, given the fact that 50% of our business is automotive. So that's where we're seeing the largest impact on that group.
spk04: Just if I could clarify, the adverse mix and the launch delays, to what extent are those reflected or not reflected in the third quarter outlook, Jeff?
spk11: They're absolutely reflected in the guide. We're comfortable with being able to stay within that 400 to 600 range in the last 12 months. But we know that some of that mix will continue to be a drag to the in-quarter overall outgrowth range. But remember, when those launches come back, that'll be a pickup, right? So if something pushes out of a quarter or out of a first half of the year, eventually our customers will need to pick that up, and that will overlap other opportunities that we are also anticipating. So it's not lost revenue. It's just deferred revenue that we have to contemplate in the overall guide. It'll start to pick up in the second half of the year, much like it did from first quarter to second quarter. But we continue to see some delays on that front.
spk06: Okay, that's helpful. Thank you.
spk05: Thanks, Luke.
spk06: Thank you. And the next question comes from Abdullah Khan with Evercore.
spk05: Hi, thank you for taking the question. So I just wanted to ask about the road to 21% margins. And I know it's a longer-term target, but I just wanted to understand what the biggest levers will be to get there from the current 19%. I know you guys mentioned volume last time, but any incremental information would be great And I also wanted to ask you guys whether you're seeing any ease from commodity and private costs coming down, which might be a tailwind. Thank you. Let me catch the second part of that.
spk09: Commodity prices. So I guess there's two things. One, we've been very prescriptive about the impact that currency is having year over year, benchmarking ourselves to a 21% margin that we've demonstrated in the past. If you adjust for currency with 110 basis points, headwind in the second quarter. And then just to be consistent with what we've done in the past, volume will be the largest driver of our margin increase over time. We're, I think, executing well on the pricing inflation dynamic. We're managing our cost structure very efficiently. As the volumes start to come back, particularly in businesses like our industrial business, we'll see very, very significant incremental margins, as I mentioned earlier. That would be the thing that would drive us towards the 21%.
spk11: Yeah, just adding a little bit to what Paul said, I mean, it on a constant currency basis. And so although volume has the biggest variable impact on margins, foreign exchange has a meaningful impact on the margin profile of the business, which obviously is way outside of our control. On the supply chain side, we talked about the fact that we're starting to see supply chain challenges abate considerably. And I would say that's pretty broad-based. Remember, though, that we have long-term engagement with our customers. We, therefore, have long-term structure with our supply chain. So when we see supply chains normalized, that doesn't result in immediate impact in terms of pricing on the supply side. But it's something that we do extraordinarily well. We've demonstrated over decades that once we get to a more normalized operating environment, we can continue to show significant productivity in terms of our overall cost structure that will drive margin profile in the business. We've been, over the last three years, in an environment where we've been challenged on that, and it's completely been turned upside down. What has been productivity year over year has been inflation year over year. And so in 2023, we're anticipating continued inflation on our COGS cost structure. but hopefully we'll start to bend that cost curve as we go into 24 and 25 to get back to a more normal business model of productivity quarter over quarter and year over year. Thanks for the question.
spk06: Thank you. And the next question comes from Sirius Patil with Wolf Research.
spk12: Hey, thanks a lot for taking my question. Yeah, maybe just following up on one of the other questions earlier. So, you know, Q3, you're guiding to 20% margin X currency. We are seeing auto production improving. Some of the industrial end market headwinds that you're experiencing at the moment are potentially going to moderate as we look out to next year. And so clearly the volume should be a tailwind as you get back to 21% margin. But just maybe on this topic of supply chain, how do we think about when that starts to benefit the business, and are there any other puts and takes to think about as we look towards that 21% margin level?
spk11: Yeah, so I'll take a crack at it, and Paul, you can add and correct me where I get it wrong, but the impact in terms of cost structure associated with inflation and what would normally be productivity for us has been improving, right? So if you look back to 2021-22, where it was a very significant impact in terms of negative productivity in our cost structure, that's coming down in 23. And as I had mentioned to the prior question, we would expect that to continue to improve as we go into 2024. The volume in Q3 specifically is down pretty dramatically, right? So what we're seeing from a margin standpoint, constant currency will be at the 20s. So that shows improvement. That's with more foreign exchange headwind and with a decline in overall volume, which impacts margins. So listen, we're going to continue to aim toward the target profitability that we've identified, but given the environment that we're working in associated with the volume decline, second quarter, third quarter, and also the margin headwind we experienced associated with foreign exchange, We are marching toward the outcome that we've aimed for. It's taking longer given the other factors that we've talked about.
spk10: Okay. Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. And the next question comes from Joe Giordano with J.D. Cowan. Hey, guys.
spk14: Good morning. Can you talk about China specifically in the quarter? I know last quarter... like the mix is unfavorable given where the production was coming from. And I know this quarter Tesla had a big production in China. So like, can you talk about how that looked and what you guys did and maybe comment about the structural dynamics in China and like how you see that playing out, like who's going to take share and like what the, you know, what the opportunity is for the, for you at those players?
spk11: Yeah, absolutely. So I think the folks know that, We had planned a trip to China. We were there in May. We talked about that a little bit in some other venues associated with investor calls or conferences and so forth. That was the first time that we were there as a management team in three years. China's always been fast. That has accelerated during periods of COVID. So I would say that maintaining our presence there is critically important, continuing to accelerate our pace of change with those customers. is incredibly important. The Chinese companies, like BYD as an example, have gone from aspirations to win in the China market to aspirations to win in the global market. So engaging with those customers is incredibly important for us as a company, as a global company. And we have good relationships there. BYD tends to be fairly vertically integrated, but they have a desire to work with multinational companies as they aspire to grow outside of regions. So engagement with our customers in China continues to be important. We're seeing some really good success. You know how our business has grown there and we'll continue to focus on it. Specific to an element of in China, I would say they're not growing right now. They're not growing dramatically and that's inconsistent with where things have been over the last decade where we saw very strong growth in China. So overall the market isn't growing. The government's doing a lot to try to convert from a more government-stimulated economy to consumer. The challenge is that consumers are spending all their money on travel because they were cooped up for three years as opposed to buying durable goods and products that our products would go into. So we're seeing weakness in the overall China market as a result of their economy and what's going on there. And one other point that I would bring up, which we talked about last call, is the pivot in the automotive market from local to multinational. That's sort of stabilized around the 40 Two of last year, the multinationals had 51% market share. This year, they have 47. That 47 is consistent with where it was in the first quarter of this year. Now, there was more of an impact in the first quarter because first quarter of 22, they had 54% market share. So there was a big decline from 54 to 47, but it seems to have stabilized around 47. Our modeling would suggest that there were a couple hundred basis points of continued erosion there. which will have an impact on our business, but we don't see it going to zero. It's a desire to buy electric vehicles given mandates associated with license plate issuance. It's a lot easier to get a license plate in China for an electric vehicle than it is a combustion engine, and therefore consumers are buying electric vehicles and there are just larger options, a bigger number of options on electric vehicles and local brands versus multinational. So hopefully that adds some color and provides some help too.
spk06: Thank you. And the next question comes from Sameek Chowdhury with JPMorgan.
spk00: Hello, this is Adelika McMillan on behalf of Sameek Chowdhury. So I just wanted to touch on electrification a little bit more. Can you talk about how Sensada is thinking of investing in electrification opportunities in non-automotive end markets? To what extent will this $2 billion electrification revenue target be associated with electrification opportunities in these spaces?
spk11: Yeah, thanks for the question, because I think it is a little bit misunderstood. We think of electrification very holistically, and only about half of our $2 billion target for 2026 will come from the light vehicle automotive market. There will be other areas that we will continue to play, and we're seeing very significant success in terms of new business wind, but also growth, right? So you think of electrification in the broader heavy vehicle market, think of electrification in terms of charging infrastructure for electric vehicles and broader industrial applications, as well as what we talked about earlier. I think we got a question from Chris on DynaPower and the inverter market. So all of this electrification will require Hardening of the grid, it doesn't do the environment any good if we switch to electrification and we generate electric power with gas or other greenhouse gas emitting applications. So the move toward renewable energy is definitely an area where we're investing that we'll see the other half of the billion dollars come from across all of those other end markets outside of light vehicles. And great progress. We've talked about the fact last year of our billion dollars of new business when 70% of them were in the area of electrification. And we're seeing a similar trend in terms of mix of the new business when this year versus where we were last year.
spk10: So that's good success in market associated with the capabilities we've developed. Thank you.
spk06: Thank you. Thank you. And the next question comes from Chris Snyder with UBS. Thank you.
spk07: So I understand the FX impact, but are margins facing the underlying business proving a bit more significant than you would have thought 12 months ago? Because when we look at the Q3 guide and we take the high end, even if we add back the FX impact, it doesn't seem to show much impact. year-on-year margin improvement for the underlying operations, despite all the actions over the last year to try to get these margins higher? Thank you.
spk09: I would have to say that the improvement in the margins is coming largely from the core operations of the business. There is some improvement as we go from Q2 to Q3 and sort of we mix up, particularly in our clean energy segment, but largely this is around executing on pricing above the inflationary cost for experience and controlling our costs, getting better throughput through the manufacturing sites, managing the inflation pressures on labor with increased automation. All those things are driving the improved margins. So it is all really fundamental, blocking and tackling, the things that we do really well in terms of driving costs out of the business And as, like I said before, as the volume starts to improve, we will see significant incremental margins. And the other thing that I would call out is our industrial business, which is one of our most profitable, is down significantly year over year this year due to weekend markets. We talked about the week PMI. That's driving a contraction in that end market. And when that market comes back, we'll see significant volume improvement and margin improvement. Thank you.
spk10: Thanks, Chris.
spk06: Thank you. And this does conclude our question and answer session. I would like to return the floor now to Jacob Sauer for any closing comments.
spk08: Thank you, Keith. I'd like to thank everyone for joining us this morning. Sensato will be participating in the Goldman Sachs Technology Investor Conference on September 5th out in San Francisco. As Jeff mentioned, we'll also be hosting an investor event the morning of September 27th in New York City. This will be held both in person and virtually. Registration for that event is now open and the link can be found on our Best of Relations website under events. We look forward to seeing you at one of those events or on our third quarter earnings call at the end of October. Thanks for joining us this morning and for your interest in Sensata. Keith, you can now end the call.
spk06: Thank you. The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation.
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