Stag Industrial, Inc.

Greetings and welcome to Stagg Industrial Inc. First quarter 2025 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Mr. Steve Schachos in this relations. Thank you, Mr. Schachos. You may begin.

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to Stagg Industrial's conference call covering the first quarter 2025 results. In addition to the press release distributed yesterday, we have posted an unaudited quarterly supplemental information presentation on the company's website at .staggindustrial.com under the in-rester relations section. On today's call, the company's prepared remarks and answers to your questions will contain forward-looking statements as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act 1995. Forward-looking statements address matters that are subject to risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ from those discussed today. Examples of forward-looking statements include forecasts of core FFO, same-store and OI, GNA, acquisition and disposition volumes, retention rates and other guidance, leasing prospects, rent collections, industry and economic trends and other matters. We encourage all listeners to review the more detailed discussion related to these forward-looking statements contained in the company's filings with the SEC and the definitions and reconciliations of non-GAP measures contained in the supplemental information package available on the company's website. As a reminder, forward-looking statements represent management's estimates as of today. Stagg Industrial assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements. On today's call, you will hear from Bill Crocker, our Chief Executive Officer, and Matt Spenard, our Chief Financial Officer. Also here with us today is Mike Chase, our Chief Investment Officer, Steve Kimball, PVP of Real Estate Operations, who are available to answer questions specific to their areas of focus. I will now turn the call over to Bill.

Thank you, Steve. Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the first quarter earnings call for Stagg Industrial. We're pleased to have you join us and look forward to telling you about the first quarter 2025 results. We had a very strong start to the year, resulting in core info per share of 61 cents in the first quarter, exceeding our initial expectations. I'm happy to report that we have already leased .5% of the operating portfolio square feet we currently expect to lease in 2025, achieving cash leasing spreads of 25.1%. This level of leasing is at a similar pace to last year and consistent over the last few years. While tenant activity was healthy in Q1, the escalation of the global trade war continues to monopolize headlines. At this point, it is too early to quantify the potential impact of tariffs on our business. With the threat and implementation of tariffs, we have heard from some of our tenants that a key priority for them is diversification of their supply chains. We view this as a net positive to our portfolio, given our geographic diversity and focus on CBR tier one markets. Generally, we have witnessed some lengthening and lease gestation periods coming from these macro economic events. We are still seeing plenty of tours for our vacant spaces, but those tours are taking longer to convert to signed LOIs. With that being said, tenants are continuing to make leasing decisions in light of current uncertainty. Through today, we have signed 3.6 million square feet of leases commencing in the second quarter, a million of which is new leasing. This is highlighted by a 500,000 square foot full building lease executed in the Savannah market. This lease was accomplished with zero downtime and produced a 25% cash leasing spread. The supply pipeline continues to contract with the national under construction pipeline decreasing more than 16% sequentially since the fourth quarter. In the longer term, weaker economic growth may negatively impact warehouse space demand, but this would be partially offset by increased near-shoring and on-shoring activity. DAG's portfolio would be a relative beneficiary compared to other industrial portfolios due to our geographic footprint. Moving to acquisitions, volume for the first quarter totaled $43 million. This consisted of three buildings with cash and straight line cap rates of .8% and .0% respectively. In January, DAG acquired a 162,000 square foot building located in Shakopee, Minnesota for $16.6 million at a cash cap rate of 6.5%. The building is 100% leased at rents approximately 40% below market to a single tenant with strong credit profile. This acquisition provided DAG the opportunity to acquire a stabilized deal at an attractive yield and strong projected same store and a wide growth. In February, DAG closed in a two building portfolio totaling 232,000 square feet for $26.7 million and a cash cap rate of 6.9%. The portfolio is located in Buffalo Grow, Illinois an infill sub market of Chicago. The portfolio is 100% leased to two tenants with a weighted average lease term of 3.3 years. The transaction provided an attractive combination of high yield and durable cash flow given the entrenched Tennessee. In terms of dispositions this quarter, we sold one building in Nashua, New Hampshire for gross proceeds of $67 million representing a cash cap rate of 4.9%. This disposition was a result of our team successfully repositioning the asset and ultimately selling it to a user. On the development front, we have approximately 2.5 million square feet of activity across 11 buildings in the US. Roughly 50% of that 2.5 million square feet is under construction and 16% is pre-leased. The remaining 50% has been delivered and is currently 51% leased. This includes a new lease totaling 102,000 square feet of warehouse and distribution space which commenced at our building in Welford, South Carolina on April 1st. With that, I will turn it over to Mattz who will cover our remaining results and updates to guidance.

Thank you, Bill. And good morning, everyone. Our portfolio per share was 61 cents for the quarter an increase of .4% as compared to last year. Cash available for distribution totaled $106.5 million an increase of .5% as compared to the prior period. Leverage remains low with net debt to annualized run rate adjusted EBITDA equal to 5.2 times. Plane deduces at $1 billion a quarter end when incorporating committed private placement debt proceeds. During the quarter, we commenced 36 leases totaling 5 million square feet which generate cash and straight line leasing spreads of .3% and .1% respectively. Retention for the quarter was 85.3%. As mentioned by Bill, we have accomplished .5% of the operating portfolio square feet we currently expect to lease in 2025 achieving .1% cash leasing spreads. This demonstrates the strength of our portfolio. BAG has started the second quarter of leasing with strong momentum. This is highlighted by the execution of 1 million square feet of new leasing in the second quarter thus far. We will release a second quarter business update at the end of the week similar to previous updates in advance of a large industry conference we'll be attending next week. We achieved same store cash and wide growth of .4% for the quarter. Primary drivers of our same store growth in the first quarter include the leasing spread to .3% and annual escalators at .8% partially offset by previously forecasted and now realized occupancy loss of 80 basis points. Moving to capital market activity, we repaid the $100 million private placement note B which matured on February 20th. There are minimal debt maturities remaining in 2025. Subsequent to quarter end on April 15th, the company entered into a note purchase agreement to issue $550 million of fixed rate senior unsecured notes in a private placement offering. The notes consisted of five, eight and 10 year tenors with a weighted average fixed interest rate of .65% and a weighted average tenor of 6.5 years. The notes will be funded on June 25th and the proceeds will be used to pay down the revolver which will restore liquidity to approximately $1 billion. We experienced minimal credit loss in the first quarter. There's no update for discussions with American Tire Distributors at this time. American Tire Distributors are current on their 2025 rents through today. At this point, we're maintaining our 2025 credit loss guidance to 75 basis points and we're retaining all other guidance as well. I will now turn back over to Bill.

Thank you, Matt. I want to thank our team for their continued hard work and achievement towards our 2025 goals. Our team continues to drive value in all macro environments. DAG has set the foundation of sustainable growth in 2025 and will continue to benefit from a strong balance sheet, ample liquidity and broad market diversification. We'll now turn it back to the operator for questions.

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your questions from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. As a reminder, please restrict yourself to one question and one follow up. One moment please while we poll for questions. The first question comes from the line of Craig Malam with Citi, please go ahead.

Hey, good morning. Matt, did I hear you right that you guys have signed a million square feet of new leasing quarter to date, so just in the month of April?

Yeah, Craig, it's Bill. Yeah, in Q2 we've signed 3.6 million, we have 3.6 million leases commencing, a million of which is new leasing. And one success we had was we had a space, a 500,000 square foot space that we were notified a couple months ago that they were going to vacate in Q2 and we backfilled that space with no downtime. Seven year lease, no downtime, 25% roll over leasing spread, so really happy with the execution there.

And so, apologies, so you keep saying commence, was the million square feet of new leases executed quarter to date or some of those were done before and they'll just commence in the quarter?

It's a mix with the new leasing, generally they're signed and commencing in a shorter window versus some of the renewals may have been executed earlier. But for example, the million square feet that's commencing in effectively April was all signed in the last 30 to 60 days.

Okay, and then just for the follow-up, can you just talk about kind of the demand that you're seeing across different sub-markets, right? You guys have had good activity in Greenville which is maybe auto-related, could you talk about what you're seeing in more of your manufacturing type markets versus distribution? Are there any differences you're seeing across demand in tenant conversations?

I mean, the tenant conversations that we've had is, the tariffs, everything that we're seeing in the macro environment is just causing a little bit more uncertainty. And with that uncertainty creates a little bit longer timeframe between lease negotiations and signing an LOI and a lease. With respect to markets, I mean, kind of similar to last quarter where some of those Midwest markets are operating really well, Milwaukee, Chicago, Minneapolis is doing really well. We're still seeing good demand in Detroit. And then Sunbelt is strong, Nashville's really strong. And markets that, one of which you noted that's improving, Greenville's improving, Columbus is improving. And then I'm sure if you're in another follow-up question is what's the weaker markets. We're seeing some, a little bit of weakness in Atlanta, certainly some weakness, we own an asset in San Diego, a lot of weakness there. And then Indianapolis is still a little slow. But overall, your tenants are still executing leases. It's just taking a little bit longer. And just one other, I guess, point I'd like to make is we're seeing some good demand from tenants wanting to renew leases early. So leases that are rolling in 26, even 12 months out, we're in conversations with large tenants to renew those leases. So I think there's a lot of demand in the system, but with the events in the past 30 days, it just creates a little bit more uncertainty and some of those discussions taking a little bit longer than what they normally take.

Great, thank you.

Thanks, Greg.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Jonathan Hughes with the Raymond James, please go ahead.

Good morning, thanks for the prepared remarks. Just kind of sticking with leasing activity there. These tenants that are coming to you, are they just trying to renew early to get ahead of the expected supply and selection in hopes of achieving better rates? Was there an increased push to lease space ahead of tariffs so they could fill space with imported goods? They're just really trying to better understand that strong leasing volume because you're at kind of 11 million square feet year to date, that's not far off last year's total. And you're only at seven million expiring at the start of the year. So any common theme as to why the early renewals?

Yeah, I mean, we just sat with the regional managers yesterday and talked about that exact point is I think there's a combination, right? I mean, there's still demand in the system, especially for these early renewals. I think tenants are seeing a little bit of an opportunity with some of the noise out there to say, hey, maybe we can get a little bit better rate instead of waiting 12 months when we're post that inflection point, whenever that may be. And then rates start to increase at a faster pace. And tenants need the space, right? There's still demand. I still think there's pent up demand from last year. Tenants took a lot of time leasing space last year in front of the election. And then we saw a lot of activity to start the year. And then we have a little bit of, call it a little bit of a slow down or taking a step back, evaluating everything that's going on from a macro level in the past month. But tenants still need space. I'm really optimistic with the new leasing that we've signed in Q2, a million square feet, one month into the second quarter of new leasing. That's a big number for us. So really happy with that. It was a big number on executing with some pretty strong leasing spreads. So overall, the demand feels really good. I think tenants are just taking a little bit more time making those decisions. And the tenants that are in those spaces, to your point, I think are trying to get ahead of some of what we see as potential inflection point at the end of this year.

All right, thanks for that. I'll see you on the floor. Thank you. Thank you.

Next question comes from the line of Vince Tibon with Green Street, please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Could you discuss trends in the private transactions market since April 2nd? And more specifically, are you seeing any retrading activity just given the uncertainty or potential sellers pulling in deals that have already begun some form of formal marketing process? Just curious how the transaction market and it's evolved in the last few weeks.

Yeah, I'll start off and then I'll pass it off to Mike. Ben, so what we saw at the beginning of the year was the private market continued to be really strong. Public bids on properties maybe a little bit wider than the private marks. We saw some big portfolios come out, either portfolio sale or recap, come out to the market at some pretty attractive pricing that was comparable to our portfolio. And to date, we haven't seen those trade. Broker feedback has been, the buyers are still involved. There's still a lot of bids for these properties, but nothing has traded. And I think, I may be wrong here, but I think one or two smaller portfolios have been pulled just due to some dislocation in pricing. But Mike, I'll let you elaborate on that a little bit.

Sure, yeah, just recently we have been getting some information on a few portfolios, both large and small that have been pulled from the market just because of the volatility and concerns about pricing. We haven't heard a lot about retrading, maybe one or two, but it's mostly just sellers pulling portfolios or deals from the market to see where volatility settles out.

Yeah, and Vince, just one more comment there. I don't think it's too dissimilar to what we've seen over the past four to five years, really since COVID, where you have these either spike in rates or macro uncertainty and volatility enters the market, bid-ask spreads widen, it goes on, call it a three month, four month pause. And then next thing you know, the acquisition transaction market starts to improve. So that is, it's not uncommon for us to see this. I mean, for us, we've got a really strong balance sheet, great liquidity, and when we see these type of situations, we're comfortable just waiting it out and then pouncing on opportunities when they present themselves.

That's a really helpful color. And how are you thinking about your cost of capital, I mean, just given recent share price changes. So you have provided the rate of stabilized cap rates. I mean, is it fair to assume you kind of want your implied cap rate to get closer to that range or obviously I imagine the hurdle's higher to buy things today than it was. So you can just talk a little bit about, you know, you didn't change acquisition guidance, but I'm imagining there's some change in underwriting or it's given your cost of capital. Yeah, I'll

talk about the acquisition guidance and then Matt's can jump in for cost of capital. But our acquisition, initial acquisition guidance was the same as it is today. Everything has been affirmed, but that guidance was a wide range. And as we noted last call and again, this call, it's very backend weighted. So it's very little impact to our core FIFO from our acquisition guide. So we have the ability to acquire a lot of product if our cost of capital is supportive of where we can deploy it creatively. Generally, in these situations of volatility, and we've had this a couple of years, we do a wide range of acquisition and we assess that as we move through the year. It's a little too early in the year to change that. But just to remind it to everyone, it's backend weighted and very little impact to our core FIFO guide. Matt, you can jump in for cost of capital.

Yeah, Vince, I think cost of debt's the easiest one here. You know, you heard in the prepared remarks in the press release, we just raised north of half a billion dollars of long-term debt at 5.65%. Now, if that was all 10-year money, it's probably closer to 5.75. So that's the easy part. As Bill mentioned, once we fund this private place, we're gonna have a billion dollars of liquidity. I also wanna reiterate the point that we're retaining a lot of capital. We retained north of $35 million of cash after dividends paid in the first quarter. That's great capital for us. The other point I wanna make, Vince, and I think it's very, very much apparent in this quarter, but it is the way that we view our cost of capital, is creative recycling capital. Now, going back to that Nashua sale, we received $67 million of proceeds at pricing sub-five. It was a four-nine cap rate. We redeployed two-thirds of that money into assets that Bill described in his prepared remarks that fit our portfolio perfectly in markets that we love at stabilized cap rates close to seven. So when we look at how we deploy capital in the sources, certainly in this environment, as you mentioned with the volatility in the share price, creative recycling capital, coupled with the cash that we are able to retain, gives us some flexibility to be opportunistic even in this market.

And just one more point on that. One more point, Vince, on that private placement transaction. I wanna give Matt some team credit there, but that was a cover, I think, 200 million on the cover of that transaction, and we raised 550 million. We had over $3 billion of demand for that transaction. So there's a lot of liquidity in that market at very attractive pricing. So I'm really

happy with the execution Matt and team did there. Thank you. Mr. Tibond, are you done with the question? Yes, thank you, yes, thanks.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Nick Tillman with BED. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning, guys. Maybe you're digging a little bit more into the acquisitions and kind of what you're seeing there, understanding that your probably return thresholds are a little bit higher, but just a little bit more curious on kind of the characteristics of assets you're underwriting. Are you looking for more near-term walls, longer-term walls? And I know you guys have made a little bit more pivot into multi-tenant assets versus single-tenant, but how would you describe the mix of that sort of pipeline?

Yeah, I mean, the mix is a broad mix of assets that we evaluate. This quarter happened to be a two-building portfolio and then an asset right outside of Minneapolis. Both assets, strong markets, ability to mark those assets to market. I think the Minneapolis asset, I think it's 40% below market. So we're not focusing on one type of acquisition. We're not just saying we wanna buy a -a-half year, -a-half year lease, or seven-year lease, or a 10-year lease. We're evaluating the opportunities. Our thresholds have effectively increased just based on the inputs that go into our underwriting model. But we're evaluating long-term leases, short-term leases, roll-ups, even vacant assets. But depending on where those assets are, we might extend the lease-up period for some of those assets just given in some of the earlier commentary about some tenants taking a little bit longer to make leasing decisions. So it all factors into our underwriting, but we're looking at everything.

That's helpful. And then Matt, maybe on credit loss, you mentioned minimal amount in the first quarter.

Maybe put some

more details or numbers around that. And then on the 75 basis points for the full year, how much of that is attributable to American Tire?

Thanks for the question, Nick. When I say minimal, I mean one basis point is roughly $50,000 of credit loss. An important note here is related to American Tire is they're current on rent through today. We have not incurred any credit loss related to that situation. With that being said, we're still in that process. The expectation is by the end of May, we will have a firmer idea of the accept, reject, and potential restructure. So we have 75 basis points of credit loss baked into our guidance, which is the same as that we had in February when we initiated. We just said, going back to those original points, given this volatility, the last thing we wanted to do was get aggressive on our credit loss assumption. I will continue to update the market if and when there's a ETD settlement related to our leases. In terms of the split, our guidance is 50 basis points of cash credit loss, which is basically how we start every single year, and we added 25 specifically for the American Tire distributor situation. And again, I wanna reiterate the current on every single dollar owed through today.

Very helpful, thank you.

Thank

you.

Next question comes from the line of Michael Carroll with RBC, please go ahead.

Yep, thanks. Bill, I wanted to circle back on your comments on the broader leasing activity that it appears to be holding in there, at least so far. Is that more focused on Reynolds? Did I hear that correctly? What about new leasing activity? Has tenants kind of pulled back on new leasing in most of the activity you're seeing right now is on Reynolds?

Well, certainly this quarter, we had a lot more renewal leasing than we did new leasing. But in the second quarter, through April, we've commenced 3.6 million square feet, of which a million is new leasing. So really four times the amount of new leasing that we did in the first quarter. So I don't know if it's fair to say that new leasing is pulled back significantly. It's just taking some tenants a little bit longer to make decisions. But the example I said earlier, I mean that tenant made a decision rather quickly because we just got noticed a couple months ago that the tenant that was in that space was not renewing and we backfilled that 500,000 square foot facility with zero downtime. So the tenants are leasing space. They are making decisions. The renewal market is really strong. Our renewals are very high to start the year. And we're in discussions with a number of tenants for early renewals for leases expiring in 26. So the demand is healthy, but I do wanna caution that too, which is it is taking a little bit longer on some spaces and there's some uncertainty in the macro environment.

And I know you've made really good progress achieving your 2025 leasing targets around what's 78, 79% done so far. That is tracking a little bit below what it was last year. I mean, can we read anything into that or is it just kind of in the normal realm of expectations just given I think last year you're in the low 80s. So not much farther below. Could we read anything into that at all?

Yeah, I mean, if we're a percent or two difference, we kind of view that as in line. So I wouldn't read anything into that.

Yeah, thanks.

Thanks.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Eric Borden, BMO Capital Markets, please go ahead.

Hey, good morning everyone. So it sounds like new leasing is off to a solid start, post quarter and driven by one tenant, but I was hoping that you could provide an update on demand for your development pipeline. How are KPIs tracking interest in tours? And if you think there's a potential, if the lease up could take longer than your initial underwriting, just given the current macro uncertainty.

Yeah, I mean, we have a lot of activity at our available Greenville asset. That's the 240,000 square foot facility. I think, in general, new leasing for new developments is a little slower and that's more of a macro comment, but we're seeing a lot of good activity at that facility. And with respect to the Tampa facilities, some really strong leasing activity at the first one, the 602 O Powell Road and the 6508 Powell Road is also getting a lot of activity. Hopefully there's something to report soon on at least one of those. And the casual drive facility, as I mentioned, we leased 100,000 square feet there, so that's 69%. So some good activity. And those are, I just covered all the ones that are delivered. The developments that have not delivered, the Nashville is delivering this quarter. Still probably arguably the strongest industrial market in the US right now. Portland's a -to-suit. The Reno's some really good activity. And the Charlotte's really just kind of got started. So overall, some really good activity. If anything, you might see a little bit of slippage, maybe with some of the lease up periods and maybe depending on where deals get struck, maybe a little slippage on ongoing yields, but overall really happy with the activity.

Okay. And then, Matt, I think last quarter, you said you expected about 100 basis points of occupancy loss. I was just wondering if you could provide an update there. And how much of the 100 basis points is currently allocated to tenants, if any? And then what sort of buffer do you have built into the assumption there?

Yeah, I think that there's a little bit unpacked there, just to answer the direct question first. We have not changed any piece of our guidance. And that includes the 100 basis points of occupancy loss that we expect. In terms of what I think the question is, did we stress test our projections, what's their downside? We absolutely did. Again, we're incredibly comfortable with all of our guidance measures. As Bill mentioned, we're even a little bit ahead this quarter, but we're being cautious given the market uncertainty that we're all living in right now. Remember, we've accomplished 80% of our leasing. So 80% of what we expect to happen this year has already been booked. So when you stress, it's really the remaining 20%. But the variables that we sensitize are pretty straightforward. What does it look like if we don't acquire an additional deal this year? What does it look like if we don't lease any of our developments this year? What does it look like if we moderate the projected leasing related to that remaining 20%? It all ends up within our range. We're incredibly comfortable. So 100 base points of average occupancy continues to be the expectation for this year.

Well, thank you very much. Thank you. Next

question comes from the line of Jason Belcher with Wells Fargo, please go ahead.

Yeah, hi, good morning. Just following up on the bad debt front, wondering if you could talk about any tenant categories that might be giving you a little more concern than others in the current environment and also how your tenant watch list has trended over the past couple of quarters?

Yeah, absolutely, thanks for the question, Jason. So we look at this often. We have a three person fully dedicated credit team. This is their job. We have financial disclosure, transparency clauses and 90% plus of our leases. We look hard at every sector. It's really not sector is what we're paying. It's not food and beverage. It's not housing. It's not consumer. It really is taking a look at the tenants that have low margin businesses with highly levered balance sheets. And a good examples are the bankruptcy seen by cons, vitamin chops, and we've talked about American Tire a few times here. So from a sector by sector, we really couldn't find anything there. It really was digging into the balance sheet and what are they selling and what margins. The watch list is dynamic, but it has not expanded materially at all. It really is kind of the same few names and really it's kind of dominated by that American Tire discussion that we had previously.

That's helpful, thank you. And then back on the leasing front, I know you said you've completed close to 80% of expected 25 leasing and you've already begun to tackle some of the 26 expirations. Just wondering if you could share what kind of rent spreads you're seeing on those 26 expirations and how that compares to the spreads done for 25. And then what percent of 26 expirations have been addressed so far?

Yeah, it's a little too early for us to discuss 26 spreads. I mean, right now we've executed, given 15% plus of our 26 leasing. So in line with what we've done in past years at this time, but still a little early to talk about economics next year.

Understood, thanks guys. Thanks.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Mike Mueller with JPMorgan, please go ahead.

Yeah, sorry, sorry. I guess in the world where you have just lesser overall demand, are there any segments where, I don't know, it seems to be less of a pause or just kind of continuing along at more of an old world normal clip or is everything kind of muted that you're seeing across the board regardless of the category?

Yeah, I mean, it's an interesting question. I mean, I think there's a big assumption there, right? That everything is muted, I would say. Demand feels like it's still there. I mean, we've had some really good new leasing as I noted a couple of times. It's taking a little bit longer to make decisions. We're still seeing some strong activity from 3PLs and when you look at the markets, I mentioned earlier the strong markets, I mean, a lot of those markets have some sort of manufacturing component to them with some distribution component. So, overall, I mean, feel pretty good about the demand side. It's just, in some situations, it might take a little bit longer to lease up some spaces and that's just tenants taking longer to make decisions given the uncertainty. I mean, if you peel back before the last 30 days, I mean, leasing activity was significant. I mean, in terms of tours, RFPs, everybody was extremely busy on the team, brokers were really busy, and then things just started to slow down a little bit when folks were looking at the macro environment, what does that mean for their business and making a long-term decision. With that being said, a lot of those folks still made that long-term decision because they need to and I do think there was some pent-up demand from last year in the delayed decision-making that made its way into this year and absent the last call of 30 days, I think leasing on the whole for the industrial sector would have been up pretty significantly. So I still feel really good about the demand side, it just might take a little longer.

Got it, maybe one follow-up on that. Before you were talking about activity at Greenville and Tampa being pretty good, can you just kind of put some context around that, like roughly how many tours are you seeing now, how frequent are they, and how did that compare to a month or two ago?

I would say as compared to a month or two ago, I would say probably flat, maybe slightly down, but the activity that we're seeing is called, for lack of a better term, better activity, so more likely to get a deal done activity versus just a lot of folks kicking

the tires. Got it, okay, thank you. Thank you,

next question comes on the line of Rich Anderson with Red Bush Securities. Please go ahead.

Thank you and good morning. So I wanted to talk about the 85% retention, and if I could marry it with the pace of early leasing, you meant 79% of it already addressed, is it fair to say that you kind of get a bigger retention number to start the year, and that kind of marries with the activity that you've seen in terms of 2025 expirations, because tenants in that case sort of have made a decision to stick around, and so that the retention would maybe naturally trickle down as the year progresses. Is that the right way to think about it in terms of those two observations?

Yeah, Rich, I think you got it. Just to say in a different way, I'm sorry for repeating myself, but we've done 80% of our leasing and we didn't change any guidance. So our guidance range is 70 to 75%. If we've done 80% of our lease in Alcimente this year, we have a pretty good clear line of sight of what retention will be. The 85% in the first quarter is just mathematically high, as you see from the almost five million square feet of lease in the majority of that was renewals. Bill did mention the 500,000 square foot immediate backfill, but that's a negative retention event just for that metric in the second quarter. The way I would explain is we've done most of our book of business this year, and we feel very confident with our current guidance.

Yeah, we guide to just an absolute retention number. We don't guide to retention adjusted for immediate backfills, which is basically filling the space with zero to one or two months of downtime. And so that 500,000 square foot is going to add to that retention adjusted for immediate backfill number. So as that number ticks up, it really drops to the bottom line. So it's a great outcome for us.

Okay, great. And then probably too early to observe this yet, but are you keeping an eye on where perhaps new tenants are coming from? You would think that your area of the country would be, I know you think this, beneficiary of on-shoring, near-shoring. What about, I'm gonna use the term in-migration into your area? I mean, is that something that you're tracking to see where perhaps new tenants are coming from to sort of take advantage of the manufacturing sort of DNA of your geography?

Yeah, I mean, it's a little early to talk too much about that. And there's not a tremendous amount of data on that. But when you look at the demand for our buildings today, it's certainly distribution demand. It's consumption, call it, for population migration. That's still a theme. And then it's manufacturing. As I said in the initial prepared remarks, tenants have been talking for the last couple of years about diversifying their supply chains. And there's a lot of reasons why. You've got port strikes, you've got low water levels in the Panama Canal, you've got terrorist attacks, you've got tariffs. There are a number of reasons why large companies should diversify their supply chains. And there has been a lot of dialogue about that. And you've started to see it over the past couple of years, a few years with some on-shoring, with some near-shoring, and certainly some good activity on other ports in the US. I mean, just hate to keep bringing it up, but that tenant we signed in Q2, I mean, that's a 3PL that distributes larger goods over 50 pounds for goods that are coming into Savannah port. And they signed a seven-year lease, right? That's a new demand for that market. That was clearly something that was driven on diversifying supply chains. So we think that's a real theme. We think it's going to continue, and we think we're going to be a net benefitter from that.

Okay,

great.

Thanks very much.

Thanks.

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Michael

Griffin

with

Evercore. Please go ahead.

Great, thanks. Wondering if you can give us any insight into whether the concessionary environment has changed. It seems like tenants are still kind of kicking the tire on making decisions. So have you offered maybe any more in the concessions in order to entice them to sign leases quicker, or are you really holding out to kind of get the best net effective rent?

We hold out to the best we can. I mean, some markets that have some higher vacancy rates, and we think that it's a great transaction, we may give another month or two of free rent. With respect to leasing commissions, I mean, that's kind of a market commission. Those can kind of change year to year. So I don't really view that as more of a concession, when I think it concessions to tenants, it's really on the TIs and free rent side of it. So it all depends on the market. So I think broadly across the industrial sector, you're probably going to see free rent increase a little bit. And TIs, I think it really, really varies. I mean, if you look at our small sample size of new leasing in Q1, it looks like there's an elevated Ti really, that was more of a building improvement. We enhanced the ability of the building, we had to put in a couple drive-in doors that really are gonna enhance our property for that market. We put it in the Ti column because the tenant wanted it, but we think it's gonna increase leasing activity and we'll stay with the building after, so it's not really a concession there. So on the whole, I think, you probably see a little bit of free rent, but generally, we're trying to hold net effect rent as best we can.

Great, thanks, that's helpful. And then Matt, I appreciate the commentary on American Tire and kind of the bad debt assumptions and realize they're current on rent through April and maybe this is a little hypothetical, but if they were to reject the leases, do you have a sense of what the demand would be like to backfill some of those properties or is it still kind of too early to speculate?

It really is market, this is Bill, it's really market to market specific. There's seven leases. The good thing is the buildings are newer buildings in the 100 to 120,000 square foot range, so a decent clear height for those buildings, I think anywhere like 28 to 32 or 36 foot, so good buildings in the market, but would have to go market by market and just to take a step back, it is one of our top tenants, but it's still 1% of our ABR, right? So it's really not that material of a tenant. We spend a lot of time talking about it, but overall in the grand scheme of things, it's really not that big of a percentage of our ABR, and we're in active negotiations with them.

Great, that's it for me. Thanks for the time.

Thank

you.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of question and answer session. I would now like to turn the floor over to Bill Crooker for closing comments.

Thank you all for joining the call this morning. As always, appreciate the thoughtful questions and look forward to seeing you all soon. Take care.

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