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spk01: Good morning, my name is Sylvie and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to TransAlta Corporation's first quarter 2022 results conference call. Note that all lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. And if you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star then number one on your telephone keypad. And if you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then number two. Thank you. Ms. Valentini, you may begin your conference.
spk00: Thank you, Sylvie. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to TransAlta's first quarter 2022 conference call. With me today are John Cusignoris, President and Chief Executive Officer, Rod Stack, EVP Finance and Chief Financial Officer, and Kerry O'Reilly-Wilt, EVP Legal, Commercial, and External Affairs. Today's call is being webcast, and I invite those listening on the phone lines to view the supporting slides that are also posted on the website. A replay of the call will be available later today, and the transcript will be posted to our site shortly thereafter. All of the information provided during this conference call is subject to the forward-looking statement qualifications set out here on slide 2, detailed further in our MD&A and incorporated in full for the purposes of today's call. All amounts referenced during the call are in Canadian currency unless otherwise noted. The non-IFRS terminology used, including adjusted EBITDA, funds from operations, and free cash flow are reconciled in the MD&A for your reference. On today's call, John and Todd will provide an overview of the quarter's results. And after these remarks, we will open the call for questions. With that, let me turn the call over to John.
spk07: Thank you, Kiara. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our first quarter results call for 2022. As part of our commitment towards reconciliation, I want to begin by acknowledging that TransAlta's head office, where we are today, is located in the traditional territories of the Nitsitapi, the people of the Treaty 7 region in southern Alberta, which includes the Siksika, the Pekani, the Kainai, the Tsitsina, and the Stony Nakoda First Nations, as well as the home of Métis Nation Region 3. TransAlta had a solid first quarter and I'm proud of the progress we have made in advancing our priorities and in the performance of our company and our employees. We delivered $266 million of adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow of $115 million, or $0.42 per share, both broadly in line with our expectations for the quarter. We focused on optimizing and economically dispatching our fleet and delivered operational performance, which enabled us to run during periods of peak pricing in Alberta. The prices realized by both our Alberta hydro and Alberta gas fleets were in excess of average spot prices in the quarter, and are reflective of the value and peaking nature of our diversified fleet. During the quarter, we also delivered on a number of key priorities. On the growth side, our development team secured 200 megawatts of renewables growth with the announcement of the Horizon Hill wind project with Meta, formerly known as Facebook, as well as the Mount Keith transmission expansion project in Western Australia with BHB. We executed a PPA for the remaining 30 megawatts of capacity at our 130 megawatt Garden Plain wind facility with an investment-grade counterparty. Garden Plain is now 100% contracted with two great counterparties. And we are now able to share with you that Amazon is our corporate customer at the White Rock Wind Projects. I remain confident in our ability to deliver on the remainder of our 2 gigawatt clean electricity growth plan. We're targeting to reach investment decisions on another 200 megawatts of renewables growth later this year and are on track to deliver on our annual target of 400 megawatts for 2022. Switching to our recontracting activities at Sarnia, I can now confirm that we have entered into additional contract extensions with all three remaining industrial customers at the facility. This is a significant achievement. With PPA renewals now in place with all of our industrial customers at the site, setting the facility up well for contracted life extension into the 2030s. On the coal transition side, we have fully retired both Key Pills Unit 1 and Sundance Unit 4, and now no longer have operating coal units in Canada. Our coal transition is among the most meaningful carbon emission reduction achievements in the country, representing 9 to 10% of Canada's 2030 emissions reductions target. Overall, we have reduced our annual CO2 emissions by 29 million tons as compared to 2005, including 3.9 million tons of annual reductions in 2021, a 24% reduction year over year. The recently announced policy directions from the federal government support our decisions and validate our strategic shift. Government policy announcements, particularly the federal discussion paper on the Clean Electricity Standard and the 2030 Emissions Reductions Plan, confirmed that new natural gas generation faces growing policy and economic risks. Our principal focus is now on developing renewable projects that meet the growing demand for electricity in a manner that is aligned with global carbon goals, as we outlined at our Investor Day last year. Identifying alternative pathways to deliver reliability while pursuing a path to net zero is critical for our company, and we have established an internal energy innovation team with a mandate to do just that. In addition to the recent investment we made in Econa to help advance our hydrogen technology platform, we have made a $25 million commitment to Energy Impact Partners Frontier Fund. This fund is focused on making investments in companies with transformative technologies critical to deep decarbonization, including long-term storage, novel generation, and industrial decarbonization. All of this is directed at taking a targeted approach to diversification, and defining the next generation of power solutions for our company. We continue to make considerable progress on advancing our EBITDA contribution from renewables assets. With the addition of the wind rise in North Carolina solar facilities last year, our EBITDA contribution from renewables and storage assets reached 53% in the quarter, another step toward our target contribution level of 70% by the end of 2025. As a result of the progress we've made in advancing our clean electricity growth plan, our ESG rating with Morgan Stanley Capital International was upgraded from BBB to A. And finally, in March, we were active with our normal course issuer bid and returned $18 million to our shareholders through the buyback of 1.4 million common shares. In April, we entered into a long-term PPA with Meta for the full output from the 200-megawatt Horizon Hill wind project in Oklahoma. The delivery of low-cost, reliable, and clean electricity from Horizon Hill supports META's sustainability goals and will bring our wind fleet in the United States to almost 875 megawatts. Commercial operation of the wind farm is expected to be achieved in the second half of 2023, and annual EBITDA from the project is expected to be between $27 and $30 million. Similar to our White Rock project, over 90% of the project capital costs have been fixed, under a turbine supply agreement with Vestas and an EPC agreement for the construction of the project with infrastructure and energy alternatives. Horizon Hill will be our eighth wind facility in the US. We're also excited to announce the expansion of the Mount Keith transmission system in Western Australia to support the Northern Goldfields based operations of BHP. The project will facilitate the connection of additional generating capacity to our network to support BHP's operation and increase their competitiveness as a supplier of low-carbon nickel. The project is being developed under the existing PPA with BHP, which has a 15-year term. Construction capital is estimated to be between 50 to 53 million Australian dollars, and the project is expected to be completed in the second half of 2023 and generate annual EBITDA in the range of 6 to 7 million Australian dollars. We see considerable opportunities for TransAlta as the race to decarbonize unfolds over the next decade. We plan to deliver 2 gigawatts of new renewables capacity by 2025 by deploying 3 billion of capital with the target of achieving cumulative annual EBITDA from the projects of 250 million by 2025. We're just over a year into the execution of the plan, and we're proud of the progress that we have made. We've secured 800 megawatts of growth projects across Canada, the U.S., and Australia, representing 40% of our 2 gigawatt target by 2025, and combined, these projects will contribute approximately $137 million in EBITDA once fully operational, providing 55% of our five-year incremental annual EBITDA target of $250 million. As I turn now to our U.S. development pipeline, we've highlighted that the Horizon Hill project has moved from the advanced development category into the under-construction category. We still have over 750 megawatts of potential development sites in the US across a number of projects in several key markets. The demand for renewables remains strong in the US, and we see plenty of opportunity for growth in that market. And we're actively looking at a number of opportunities to grow our development pipeline there. We recently added a new wind development site to the pipeline and expect to continue to add projects to our pipeline over the course of 2022. We remain disciplined on growth in Canada, primarily here in Alberta. Our Tempest wind project has moved up to an advanced stage of development, and we continue to see demand for renewable PPAs in the market from corporate customers. Our team is actively seeking opportunities to contract our sites and advance our projects into the construction phase. And in Australia, we've moved the Mount Keith transmission expansion projects to the under-construction phase. We're definitely seeing growing opportunities in Western Australia in support of our remote mining customers, and we're advancing several opportunities there and expect to reach final investment decision on additional projects with BHP and others in coming months. I'll now turn it over to Todd to take us through our financial results for the quarter.
spk06: Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. In Alberta... Our hydro, gas, energy transition, and wind facilities are dispatched as a portfolio in order to benefit from base load and peaking energy sales. And in the first quarter, the fleet generated just over 2,500 gigawatt hours of electricity. We've positioned our fleet to firm renewables and provide capacity and energy when needed by the grid. Strong pricing throughout the quarter resulted in the average pool price for Q1 settling at $90 per megawatt hour. This was slightly softer than the average price in Q1 of 2021 of $95, and capacity factors were lower than our expectations as price volatility was more muted this year than in 2021. The lower price and lower volatility was mainly due to warm weather and fewer planned and unplanned outages across the province compared to last year. In the quarter, the company was well hedged on both power and natural gas. However, given the significant increase in the spot price of natural gas, Combined with the current carbon price levels, coal-fired generation had the marginal cost advantage in the quarter. Given these market conditions, we optimized the fleet through daily assessments and made choices on whether to dispatch down our units and supply our customers through the market. This also allows us the opportunity to resell any unused gas that was hedged and also avoids higher emissions and corresponding carbon costs. As carbon costs continue to rise and other coal-fired units in the market become less competitive and retire or are converted, we expect to see stronger correlations between natural gas and power prices in the near future as offers from generators will fully reflect the price of gas. During the quarter, the gas and energy transition units realized a premium of 14% over spot price with a realized merchant price of $103 per megawatt hour. With our Alberta fleet now fully converted to natural gas, Our carbon compliance costs have decreased by over 50% from $19 a megawatt hour in Q1 of 2021 to $9 per megawatt hour in the first quarter of 2022. The ability of our hydro fleet to capture peak pricing was demonstrated again in the quarter, with realized merchant prices of $108 per megawatt hour, which represented a 20% premium over the average spot price. Ancillary services revenue in the quarter was lower due to the lower average pool price and lower volatility. A lower contribution from ancillary services resulted in a reduced EBITDA from the hydro segment. Our merchant wind fleet in Alberta performed extremely well. Not only did we benefit from a strong wind resource, the fleet also benefited from strong on and off peak pricing and realized an average merchant price of $58 per megawatt hour. Looking at the balance of 2022, we have approximately 4,900 gigawatt hours of Alberta gas generation hedged at an average price of $73 per megawatt hour, and 40 million of GJs of natural gas hedged at approximately $3. In addition to our contracted production, we continue to retain a significant open position in order to realize higher pricing during times of peak market demand, and we see forward prices for the balance of the year in the $112 per megawatt hour range. Our performance in Q1 was led by the wind and solar fleet, which delivered a 17% increase in adjusted EBITDA from $76 million in the first quarter of 2021 to $89 million this quarter. The increase was driven by incremental contributions from the windrise facility, as well as the North Carolina solar facility and higher wind resource. This increase was partially offset by the extended outage at Kent Hills. Operations and adjusted EBITDA from the gas segment, which includes our contracted assets as well as our Alberta merchant fleet, was largely in line with 2021. Adjusted EBITDA from the energy transition segment decreased 69% year-over-year due to the retirement of Key Pills Unit 1 at the end of 2021 and lower production and higher coal cost at Centralia. Our energy marketing team delivered results consistent with our normalized expectations for the segment, with $27 million in adjusted EBITDA. Overall, TransDelta's results were in line with our expectations. I want to thank all of our employees for their performance in delivering the quarter. I'm going to turn now to highlight our longer-term trends for free cash flow and EBITDA performance and the continuing financial strength of the company. In the first quarter, we delivered EBITDA of $266 million, broadly in line with our expectations and consistent with our 2022 EBITDA guidance range. Free cash flow of $115 million, or $0.42 per share was also in line with our expectations and also consistent with our 2022 free cash flow guidance range of $455 to $555 million. In the quarter, DBRS reaffirmed our BBB low stable rating, and we still expect to refinance our November 2022 debt maturity before it matures. Our Treasury team has been proactive and have secured interest rate locks to protect us against rising interest rates. Our balance sheet and liquidity remain very strong. We closed the quarter with over $2 billion of liquidity, including approximately $1 billion in available cash. This positions us extremely well to fund our future growth pipeline, including our 680 megawatts of projects under, or soon to be under, construction. Before I turn things back to John, I'll turn to TransAlta Renewables. Our operating wind and solar assets, as well as the majority of our contracted gas assets, are held within TransAlta Renewables and are fully consolidated in TransAlta's results. Overall, the quarter's results marked the full addition of 428 megawatts of contracted growth generation in each of our core operating regions in 2021. Despite the ongoing suspension of operations at Kent Hills, RNW's results for the quarter have demonstrated the resilience of the diversified fleet and the value of the 2021 growth investments. For the first quarter, TransAlta Renewables delivered $139 million of adjusted EBITDA, an increase of $16 million compared to the same period in 2021. The increase was a result of incremental production from our growth projects and strong wind resource during the quarter. With respect to Kent Hills, we're expecting to finalize our rehabilitation plan and conclude our negotiations with New Brunswick Power very soon. We are pleased to say that we have an agreement in principle with NB Power that includes, among other things, a term that now goes to December 31, 2045, under each of the three PPAs. Further, our discussions with the project lenders are in advanced stage, and we expect to obtain their final consents during the second quarter, at which time we will be in a position to commence construction. The estimated rehabilitation cost has increased in excess of our previous range and is now estimated at $120 million, including contingency and the net impact of replacing the failed turbine. The increase is due to a more robust foundation design, inflationary cost pressures, and an acceleration of the schedule. We will provide a further update on expected expenditure, commercial terms, and construction timelines as terms are finalized. We have strong liquidity at R&W for the upcoming funding needs. In addition to our $700 million committed credit facility, we had $278 million of cash at the end of the quarter. With that, I'll turn the call back over to John.
spk07: Thanks, Todd. As I look at our strategic priorities for 2022, our primary goal is to continue delivering clean power solutions to and be the supplier of choice for customers that are focused on sustainable growth and decarbonizations. In 2022, we're focused on progressing the following key goals. Reaching final investment decisions on the equivalent of 400 megawatts of additional clean energy projects across Canada, the United States, and Australia. And we're on track, having secured 200 megawatts so far this year. Achieving COD on the Garden Plain Wind and Northern Goldfield solar projects. progressing construction on our U.S. wind projects at White Rock and Horizon Hill, and advancing our Mount Keith transmission expansion project in Western Australia, expanding our development pipeline with a focus on renewables and storage, recontracting with the ISO at Sarnia in Q3, progressing the rehabilitation of Kent Hills Wind, which we expect to be able to provide more details on later this quarter, achieving EBITDA and free cash flow within our guidance ranges, and advancing our ESG objectives, which includes reclamation work at Highvale and Centralia, providing Indigenous cultural awareness training to all of our employees, and achieving at least 40% female employees by 2030. I'd like to close by highlighting what I think makes TransAlta a highly attractive investment and a great value opportunity. First, Our cash flows are resilient and are supported by a high-quality and highly diversified portfolio. Our business is driven by our contracted wind and solar portfolio, our unique, reliable and perpetual hydro portfolio, and our efficient gas portfolio, all of which are complemented by our world-class asset optimization and energy marketing capabilities. Second, we're a clean electricity leader with a focus on tangible greenhouse gas emissions reductions. We have adopted a more ambitious CO2 emissions reductions target of 75% by 2026 from 2015 levels and are committed to setting a science-based emissions reductions target this year. In addition, our focus on removing systemic barriers through our commitment to equity, diversity and inclusion and good governance shows our commitment to leadership across all dimensions of ESG performance. Third, We have an extensive and diversified set of growth opportunities and a talented development team focused on realizing its value. Our execution is on track and we delivered on that growth pipeline in 2021 and early in 2022. Fourth, our company has a sound financial foundation. Our balance sheet is strong and we have ample liquidity to pursue our growth. Finally, our people. Our people are our greatest asset and I want to thank all our employees and contractors for the work that they have done to deliver our results this quarter. TransAlta is at an exciting time in its evolution, and we're well positioned for the future as a leader in low-cost, reliable, and clean electricity generation focused on serving and meeting the needs of our customers. Thank you. I'll turn the call back over to Chiara.
spk00: Thank you, John. Sylvie, would you please open the call for questions from the analysts and media community?
spk01: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one. you will then hear a three-tone prompt acknowledging your request. And if you would like to withdraw yourself from the question queue, please press star followed by two. And lastly, if you're using a speakerphone, we do ask that you please lift the handset before pressing any keys. Please go ahead and press star one now if you have a question. And your first question will be from Darius Lasny at the Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hey, guys. Good morning, and thank you for the time. My first one, maybe just kind of on capital allocation, seems like you guys have quite a bit of cash on hand and liquidity available relative to the projects in the pipeline, and that's before your fairly robust free cash flow guidance for the year. Maybe in the context of the buyback that you guys did a little bit on in Q1 or other options, how are you guys thinking about deploying the balance sheet a little bit here?
spk06: Hi, morning Darius. Look, I would say that we continue to be opportunistic on share buybacks. We were blacked out during our Q4 release and our annual results last year and did purchase once we were out of that buyback period and really opportunistic. I mean, when we saw the share price, it fell off during Q1 and we saw it as a great opportunity to pick up shares.
spk07: Yeah, and I would say, Todd, too, we do have, I mean, I think our total spend in terms of, you know, projects under construction is sort of in that mid-billion-and-a-half-dollar range when you put sort of the capital commitments we're expecting from both companies, you know, both TransAlta and TransAlta Renewables. So I think we're comfortable with the way we're looking at our capital allocation. It kind of falls within the ranges that we've said we tend to target.
spk02: Okay, great.
spk04: Thank you for that.
spk02: And maybe switching gears, so congrats on locking up the industrial Sarnia customers for a few more years. Can I take away from the update in the MD&A on the ISOs process that you guys will have visibility into whether or not that contract is extended by the second half of 22? It sounds like that's sort of where they're process might give you guys some clarity. But will you be able to update the market at that point?
spk07: That's actually what our expectation is, Darius. The ISO there has come out and is basically running an RFP for kind of a medium-term sort of capacity to be awarded for the province. I think that goes from 2026 to 2031, that kind of time period. We have actually applied and are seeking a contract under that capacity procurement that they're doing. We're pretty confident of our ability to being successful in that. And right now, the current time schedule for the ISO to kind of go through all of the proponents for capacity contract would see them coming back to people in Q3. So I think you've got it exactly right.
spk02: Okay, great. Thank you. If I could sneak in one more quick one, just on your higher expected forecast for Alberta pricing for the full year. Is that just a factor of Q1 coming in higher than expected, or is there something that you're updating in your forecast for the balance of 22 here?
spk07: Yeah, I think what we've seen is actually the forward curve, and I think market expectations in terms of where pricing is going to be in the jurisdiction increasing pretty significantly, I would say, over the course of the last month or so. I think... kind of balance of year pricing in Alberta is now in that $113 range. You know, I think May, and we're already in May, would be in the upper 90s. I think June is a bit over $100. And then Q3, a bit over $120. And then Q4, about $114. So in general, I think what we're seeing is the market kind of just reacting to the increase in gas prices and the just making sure, just reflective of the fact that variable costs for a lot of the generators have popped up.
spk04: Okay, great. Thank you very much. I'll turn it back here.
spk01: Thank you. Next question will be from Rob Hope at Scotiabank. Please go ahead.
spk12: Good morning. I want to follow up on the outlook for guidance relative to to power pricing. Can you maybe walk us through some of the puts and takes that you're seeing just in terms of your guidance? You highlight potential upside on the energy pricing, and you do have gas locked in there as well, or a good portion of it. So I would imagine that should be a tailwind as we go through the rest of the year. So are there any other headwinds that you're seeing? Or directionally, are you looking better than you expected when you put out guidance?
spk07: Yeah, when we looked at the first quarter, by the way, Rob, good morning. When we looked at the first quarter, we had a bunch of sort of one-time events that impacted the quarter as well a little bit. So there was a provision that actually went through our numbers in Q1 that we don't expect to have any issues with on the balance of the year. And candidly, Q1 also reflected some of the costs from just, you know, the leadership change that occurred in 2021. And, you know, those are not things that we would expect to impact the company on a go-forward basis. I think you've got it right. I think we're pretty comfortable in terms of our gas position. We've seen the market pricing change I think there was a bit of what I refer to as heat rate compression kind of in the first quarter, and we're seeing that improve a little bit in Q2, Q3, Q4. We're very happy with where our trade floor is candidly progressing. Pretty strong April, I would say, Todd, and we're pretty pleased with where they're sitting. So net-net, we feel pretty good about the guidance in terms of where we are. We're also expecting... uh better performance from centralia certainly in q2 q3 balance of the year you know q1 was pretty anemic i think the pricing we saw in the pac northwest uh was weak i would say and and yet you know our coal delivery costs were um which we've basically locked into that for the balance of the life of that facility trended a little bit higher um but we're seeing strong pricing there and continued strong pricing for the balance of the year so So overall, certainly more, I would say, tailwinds than headwinds, that's for sure. Todd, I don't know if you want to add anything to that.
spk06: I was going to highlight the Centralia, the energy transition segment. We do expect it to decline year over year because of the retirements of some of the units. But Centralia was, I would say, off the mark in Q1.
spk07: The other thing I would say, Rob, is we are expecting to turn on the revenue tap, I would say, from Kent Hills as we begin the rehabilitation. You know, it is our expectation that we'll actually see that rehabilitation work, you know, pretty quickly would be our plan and begin getting that in a place where we want it to be.
spk12: All right. And just as a follow-up, like conceptually, you know, TransAlta has been relatively heavy on the wind development side versus solar, which is, you know, a benefit right now, just given where you're seeing supply chain. You know, as you move forward, you know, does this cause you to double down on wind and potentially push off, you know, some of the solar development, just seeing, you know, the increased challenges we're seeing on the solar side versus wind?
spk07: Yeah, I mean, I think, look, we take a long-term view in terms of kind of what the mix of technology will be. I think right now, I think you've got it exactly right in terms of, you know, the wind versus the solar. And frankly, we have a lot more experience in wind development as solar. Solar is something that is relatively new to us. I mean, our Northern Goldfields project was really the first TransAlta-built solar project that we have. So we continue to see a lot of opportunities on the wind side. And, you know, when you look at our development pipeline, it's for sure weighted more to wind than it is solar. But we're just mindful of solar because we see it as a pretty disruptive, you know, technology going forward and something for us to keep an oar in the water on for sure.
spk03: I appreciate the color. Thank you. Thanks.
spk01: Thank you. And the next question will be from Mark Jarvie at CIBC. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thanks. Good morning, everyone. Just coming back to the outlook for the balance of the year and talked about the gas hedges and the rising power prices. If you look at your coal to gas conversion assets, do you think spark spreads will expand through the balance of this year or trying to hold those flat given the current dynamics?
spk07: Yeah, it's a great question. Good morning, Mark. You know, our expectation is that they'll improve a bit, I think, certainly improve over what we saw in the first quarter, I would say. I mean, you know, our team looks at it regularly. I mean, gas prices are certainly, you know, I would say higher than we anticipated that they would be taught as we went into the year and, you know, as we were looking at the hedge position overall for the portfolio for the year. But we are expecting to see a little bit of an expansion.
spk10: Okay. And then any hedges, material hedges beyond 2023? You guys gave nice disclosure for this year and some for next year, but anything a little bit longer term on the gas side?
spk07: Yeah, I would say, Todd, I'm just going from memory. I think the longest term that you would typically see our hedges would be sort of three years is what I would say, typically, and they tend to roll over. And I think I would say kind of a weighted average kind of age, I'd say, of the hedges would be probably a year and a half, kind of in that range. On the power? On the power side, that's right. Sorry, on the gas side, just in terms of gas supply, yeah, it's very much 2022 in terms of the position that we're in, and we like where we are in terms of the first third of the year for 2023. Okay.
spk10: And then just a couple of questions in the quarterly refiling around the Hydra segment, I think there's comment, you know, a little lower, a bit more competition, also some higher O&MP. Talk about whether or not that kind of persists in terms of the O&M and the competition. Can you give some, your color around what happened on the ancillary side of things? Sure. Todd, do you want to, I mean, we can both take, why don't you go ahead?
spk06: I'll just take the OM&A discussion. Mark, really, I think it's noted in there that insurance costs were really probably one of the main drivers, probably accounting for a third of the increase, if not more. of the cost and that is a trend that you will see for the balance of the year. Really, it is our most valuable asset. It is one of the highest coverages in our insurance policies and so it bears the brunt of what I'll say is rising costs associated with insurance that we're seeing across the industry. John, I don't know if you want to talk about ancillary services.
spk07: Yeah, no, I think we should talk about ancillary services. You know, we did see a bit more competition on the AS side, but I don't think that that was really the major issue when we talked to our team. I mean, I think our AS prices in Q1 of of uh 2021 were roughly in that 67 range and i think for this quarter they were in the mid 40 range i think mark and so that's a pretty big difference year over year uh our our you know the judgment of our sort of optimization team would have been more around the fact that there was just a lot more volatility last year so the path to the um you know we often talk about average prices but the path to how you got there is actually more important than Many times what the average price was and just the volatility that we saw, particularly in February last year, would have been the difference really year over year in terms of how the portfolio performed. the pricing that it got. And in fact, I'm just going from memory, I think volumetrically, we were actually ahead year over year, both on the energy and on the AS side for the hydro portfolio. So not worried about our market share per se right now. It was just reflective of kind of the pricing dynamics that we saw in the province in the first quarter, I would say more than anything.
spk10: Okay. Thanks for the time, everyone. Thanks, Mark.
spk01: Next question will be from Ben Tham at BMO. Please go ahead.
spk09: Hi, thanks. Good morning, everybody. You announced the Garden Plains, the additional contract, and Amazon is a counterparty. I'm wondering, for you to succeed there or any other renewable power company, what are these corporate PPAs looking for with a developer? What gives you or anyone else the competitive advantage to secure more counterparties on the contracting side?
spk07: Yeah, I mean, good morning, Ben. Great question. Look, when we look at, and look, I can only speak to what we're doing and kind of the experience that we have in the marketplace. I think one of the key differentiators for us is, and look, this is just based on feedback that we're getting from the customers that we work with, is really, you know, I would say three things. You know, one, they really like, I think, the experience. high, high customer service approach that we end up taking with the customers. That's something we've been working very deliberately on. We actually have training programs and the like within the organization to try to get into a kind of a high touch, highly responsive kind of ethos around dealing with customers as we go forward. So I would say that would be one. Two, for a number of the customers that we deal with, the fact that we have kind of broad generation expertise and actually optimization and trading expertise, they just like having discussions. And sometimes we get involved in helping them think through and plan, you know, how they are on their own decarbonization journey. And candidly, the journey that we've been on, I think is notable and something that many kind of refer to and sort of want to have a discussion as it relates to us. So I would say, you know, that would be the second thing. The third thing is, a lot of them aren't sure that they're going to actually get the projects that they've bargained for. There's been more than one instance pretty much in all the markets that we're in where people thought they were getting something and it just wasn't delivered by a developer at the end of the day. They know when they come to us, we'll get the project done and we'll get it done on time and they'll get what they bargained for. So, you know, hopefully that gives you a bit of a sense. Look, We have a lot of experience in operating wind. We have a very strong supply chain team, really good relationships with the OEMs. Those are also things that we end up leveraging, but I just wanted to give you a sense of just some of the more qualitative factors that people are looking at that we're looking to differentiate ourselves on.
spk09: That's very helpful. Thank you. And then I want to ask also, what are your thoughts around offshore wind in the US, you have Eversource looking to commoditize and then there's some additional leases I think that are going to be opened up. I mean, is there any interest to even consider looking at that technology?
spk07: Yeah, you know, Ben, over the years we've had, you know, opportunities and obviously when opportunities come to the table, you know, they're brought to the attention of the company and our M&A team. looks at them. We're not actively pursuing anything right now. Opportunistically, if something came up, we would potentially look at it, but it's not kind of a core competency that we have. I mean, it's a pretty different game to develop and service that kind of a facility versus what we're used to, our bread and butter in terms of onshore winds. So it would be a pretty unique, I think it would have to be a pretty unique circumstance that would require us partnering with somebody to get it done but it's not it's not it's not top of mind in terms of what we're focusing on from development okay great thank you thanks man thank you next question will be from Donald at TD please go ahead thanks good morning everybody
spk14: I'd like to start with a question on Cogen. I guess maybe firstly, are you seeing any appetite for on-site Cogen right now? And, you know, have you got appetite to allocate capital to new Cogen? Development in Canada or the U.S., given your focus on renewables. And then, you know, maybe how are you thinking about Cogen over the long term in Canada, just given our decarbonization targets and, you know, maybe uncertainty about how it's going to be treated under the clean energy standard more broadly?
spk07: Yeah, good morning, John. I think you've kind of foreshadowed kind of the response, I think, through your comment at the end. But, you know, what I would say is, look, when we looked back probably two or three years ago, I think we expected, and in the context of kind of the regulatory environment of the day, We expected probably to see more runway in fairness around co-generation and had a team internally that was pursuing a bunch of that. We've seen that fall off candidly. And as you know, it isn't sort of one of the core areas that we're looking at from a growth perspective in terms of our clean electricity growth plan. Having said that, we are involved with discussions and we're pursuing some opportunities on effectively co-gen developments But interestingly, you know, they're typically for existing customers in terms of meeting their needs and also certainly a greater amount of focus on them potentially being non-gas. So, for example, being hydrogen-fueled as opposed to being natural gas in terms of, you know, the fuel source that's basically used for the facility. I think you hit the nail on the head on the regulatory environment. It still feels, I mean, directionally, we think it's going to be increasingly challenging from a gas perspective, to be sure. but it's pretty opaque. And I think making those big kind of bets is challenging. And I think we see it as sort of risky, unless it's in the context of, you know, serving a good customer, particularly existing customers that we have longstanding relationships with.
spk14: Okay, great. Thanks for that. And then maybe I'll just ask one more on development. In Quebec specifically, you have a couple of operating sites there. With 2.3 gigawatts of tenders coming and presumably more appetite there in the long term, are there any opportunities for you in terms of expanding those sites with or without local partners and maybe some longer-term greenfield opportunities? How are you thinking about that market?
spk07: Yeah, it's a great question. So, you know, we have done a little bit of work to see if we can, you know, maybe increase the size of some of the footprint that we have there, because in some of the other jurisdictions, that is one of the things that we're looking at, kind of to grow our pipeline. I think it'll be challenging. And as you've seen from sort of our... you know, our disclosure on where our pipeline is. We don't have a lot of sites. Well, we don't have any sites, frankly, other than our existing sites in Quebec. So for sure, there's an opportunity there for other folks to be able to bid into it. You know, if an opportunity comes our way to joint venture with somebody, you know, we wouldn't say no to considering something like that. But I don't really see us as being, you know, a key proponent in the RFPs that we're seeing coming into that jurisdiction right now.
spk03: Okay, got it. Thanks. I'll hop back in the queue. Thanks for taking my questions. Thanks, John.
spk01: Thank you. Next question is from Andrew Kuski at Credit CIS. Please go ahead.
spk13: Thanks. Good morning. Maybe an easy one to start, and it's really just how do you think about the water levels and hydrology situation in BC and the Pac Northwest right now and the outlook over the summer months and then into the fall?
spk07: Hey, good morning, Andrew. Yeah, I never know if those are actually easy questions, right? But look, I would say right now, I think we are thinking that it is a bit below what I would call a normal year, a little bit below a normal year in the PAC Northwest, I would say. I think we're expecting Alberta to be fine, like pretty good in terms of where we are. You know, going down to California and further south on the West Coast, because we tend to look at it as almost an integrated market, given the flows and the way our trade floor can wheel power along, given sort of some of the transmission rights that we have. Very, very dry in California. Like I would say, I mean, Todd, you and I were looking at this just the other day, like sort of shockingly dry. Terribly. From kind of the Oregon... California border south. So I'd say a bit below kind of the mean in the Pac Northwest and, you know, pretty normal to okay up here. But, you know, we'll see what spring rains are like and how things evolve over the coming months.
spk13: Okay, appreciate that. I won't preface this one as easy or hard, but if you look back over the last, you know, we call it five or ten years with the balance sheet improvement, you know, the coal, the natural gas program that you had and really just the market transition in Alberta, you went through a lot as an organization. And now as you think about TransAlton positioning it more to a growth mode, where do you think you are in that process just sort of internally on refocusing on growing versus all the stuff that you accomplished in the last, pick a timeframe, two years, five years, 10 years?
spk07: Yep. So, you know, it's interesting. We're doing really, I would say, three things around that. The first one is, and I think the work that's involved in doing this can't be underestimated. We're actually in the process of really working on a cultural shift within the organization. And, you know, recognizing that we are, you know, moving into a growth orientation, a real strong customer service orientation, getting to a place where there's technological disruption that's occurring within the organization, very much focused on a results orientation within the company, a real strong learning orientation, and a strong orientation towards purpose as we shift our culture from what it may have traditionally been, given the nature of the company a decade ago or even half a decade ago, to where it is today. And that's something that we're very passionate you know, deliberate about, I would say, Andrew, in terms of the shift that's taking place. The second one would be just a very strong, you know, making sure that the capabilities within our growth team are up to snuff in terms of what we need to move it forward. And that's not just on the, you know, sourcing and contracting side of the equation, but also just on execution. I mean, we're building a lot. And having the right skill set there, the right project managers, the right sort of contracting strategies to make sure that we lock down our costs are also critical to us going forward. And as part of that, our new energy innovation team is a critical part of kind of looking forward five and ten years in terms of what is coming forward. The second thing that we're really focusing on is... using data and innovation and just what we call our One Trans Alpha platform internally within the organization, which has evolved, and you'll remember this from Greenlight, Andrew, to really make sure that we have a singular approach to maintenance. We're using data as well as we can to make appropriate maintenance decisions for the fleet, trying to figure out, you know, do we need an LTSA? Can we do it internally? What kind of benefits can we bring to bear on the whole fleet? So hopefully that gives you some of the flavors, but we are very much focused on bringing kind of the capabilities and the culture of the internal organization along to where it needs to be to compete effectively for the aspirations that the company has.
spk13: It's very helpful. Thank you. I appreciate the call.
spk03: Sure. Thanks, Andrew.
spk01: Thank you. And your next question is from Maurice Choi at RBC. Please go ahead.
spk11: Thank you, and good morning. My first question is on drop-downs. I know that at the investor day, you commented that around two-thirds of the plan may be suitable for drop-down candidates to R&W. However, you've obviously made two U.S. projects. You move forward with those, and you stated that those won't be drop-down. Maybe a refresher as to how you see what is or isn't suitable for drop-down using Horizon Hill and White Rock as reference cases, be that on a tax or geography perspective, and whether the two-thirds is still a suitable number.
spk07: Yeah, good morning, Maurice. Thank you for that. You know, look, when we look at drop-downs and how we're looking at kind of allocating the growth between the two companies, it, you know, certainly requires a more active discussion within the organization today given, I think, the greater convergence in terms of the growth of the two companies going forward. I think when we think about it, and I can, you know, and Todd can jump in here too, you know, TransAlta Renewables actually grew quite a bit last year. And in terms of the cash that it has available from a growth perspective, it's solid. But it's actually TAC that is sort of the more liquid of the two companies right now and actually is able to probably grow to a greater extent, I would say, than RNW is in terms of just the cash, the organic cash flow that it has and cash flows. resources that has available to it. And then in terms of geographies, which is the other thing that we tend to look at it, when we look at the jurisdictions that really would be more impactful for growth for TransAlta renewables, given its tax horizons and the benefit that it gets from depreciation and just the investments that we would make Certainly Canada and Australia would be more impactful at the R&W level, to be sure, and help maintain our cash flows. Whereas, you know, the U.S. doesn't really do a heck of a lot to them. And I think, you know, at least when we think of it right now, certainly our U.S. assets, and you've seen it, I think with Right Rock and Horizon Hill, those would be more TAC assets going forward. So hopefully that gives you a little bit of a sense that we're thinking about it. I don't think we've hardwired any particular percentage that would go to one versus the other at this point in time. It's sort of more of a fluid assessment on a project-by-project basis. Todd, I don't know if you want to add.
spk06: I think you hit the key points there, John, from the question earlier on in the call about capital allocation, and that really is one of the key drivers of the White Rock and the Horizon Hill projects at TransAlta. When we halted the Sundance 5 project last September, You know, we basically had all of that capital allocated to that project raised and ready to go. That's now being redeployed in those projects and potentially other opportunities. And just to remind you, again, as John mentioned, last year was a good growth year for R&W. It's got two projects on the go down in Australia right now. We just announced one this morning. And then it's also got the rehabilitation at Kent Hills. So it has a lot on the go as well. It's busy across the company.
spk07: I think what I would say, Todd, is, you know, a project like Garden Plain, you know, kind of middle of the road, you know, 100% contracted now, that would be that kind of project that we would conventionally expect to see, you know, belonging probably more in the RNW sphere than necessarily in the TAC sphere.
spk11: Maybe just a quick follow-up. No other U.S. development within your pipeline will be dropped down based on that reasoning?
spk07: No, I wouldn't say that it's as black line as that. But when you look at sort of the capital spending that RNW has and the projects that it has in full flight, you know, at least in the, you know, for the foreseeable future in the near term, we would expect the focus for RNW to be in digesting what it has. And, you know, I'm also thinking of Kent Hills and also, you know, being helped in terms of its tax horizon for more of a Canadian and Australian perspective. kind of focus with TAC being more U.S., but I wouldn't be as prescriptive as that in terms of saying, no, there's a bright line there.
spk11: And my second and final question really brings me back to Alberta and your position in the market. Obviously, in the past, you've held a significant market share in the market in terms of power production. You still have your hydro facilities, and you made a comment earlier that you're comfortable with the market share there. But you moved to a peaker strategy with your thermal facilities. So big picture, your thoughts on balancing profitably the trajectory of your market share and also the capital that you invest in the market.
spk07: Yeah, we're very much focused. And really, it's reflective of the characteristics of the fleet that we have right now and the way that it's that it's operating, and we're also mindful of the kind of the demand and supply evolution that will occur in the province. So we're less focused on market share now, to be sure. I would say, Maurice, we're very much focused on kind of just maximizing the value that we can from the fleet. For us, it's more about our EBITDA, free cash flow. Are we really extracting premium pricing from the fleet that we have in the jurisdiction? So it is a fleet that has more peaker-like tendencies, for sure. And that's really what the focus is. I mean, our wind fleet in the province, which, you know, which is big, I mean, that's something that you get what you get when the fleet is running. But certainly from a hydro and a gas perspective, it's feeling more peaking. And, you know, the way we think of the market's evolution in the future is also that way. You know, when I think of our water charger project that we're working to get off the ground. Again, it's storage. We're thinking of AS. We're thinking of the kinds of products that the market will need as it evolves and we see sort of a significant gas and renewables build out going forward. So hopefully that gives you a bit of a sense. Our metric is availability. How is our pricing compared to spot pricing? That's more what we're focused on. What's our market share? Certainly on AS. then kind of saying we have X percent market share in terms of the overall generation within the province. Todd, if you want to.
spk06: I was just going to add that really I see the market share increase going to the renewables generation source. So we're going to see more renewables built out, and our focus is getting a piece of that market share in that build out.
spk04: Got it. Thank you very much. Thanks, Maurice.
spk01: Thank you. Once again, a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by one on your touchtone phone. And your next question will be from Najee Beydoun at IA Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk08: Good morning. Just a couple of questions on growth. So you have Horizon Hill in the bank and maybe Tempest coming up next. I guess related to the topic of capital allocation, do you expect to fill the gap for your growth targets this year with M&A?
spk07: You know, no, we do think that, I mean, if you put together Tempest, if you look at what we're looking at, for example, with Southern Cross in Australia, you know, I think if we can get something on an M&A perspective, that's great. And I think that's sort of gravy to what it is that we're trying to do. But we're very much focused on advancing our own pipeline to be able to get to that 400. So we've got 200 now. I mean, Tempest would be at least 100 megawatts going forward. I think some of the opportunities that we see in Australia, excluding the transmission, would also be in that 50 megawatt range. And just based on the discussions that we're having, we see even more that we could add. We take a pretty conservative approach when we talk about the pipeline. that we have. So if we have a twinkle in our eye, if I can put it that way, it doesn't appear on the pipeline. So M&A is a nice way to round things out. And I think our North Carolina solar is a great example of what we're able to do. And the team is busy right now and looking at a variety of opportunities. But I think our first line of execution is around our pipeline.
spk08: Okay, got it. And just maybe related to the topic of conservatism and managing expectations. So which secured 40% of your renewable capacity targets, but at 50% of the budget, although you're also ahead on the returns because it's 55% on EBITDA. When you kind of put all those things together, maybe it's a bit soon, but do you plan to revisit these targets next year and perhaps exceeding your budget, but also exceeding the return on the EBITDA additions?
spk07: Yeah, look, we look at the target all the time. Najee, I mean, it's a great question. You know, I can't, let's put it this way, no decision has been made to kind of adjust the target at this point in time. My key focus, in all honesty, is really increasing our pipeline. So as much as we're really, really focused on on, you know, getting that 400, for example, this year and getting it done, you know, equally, if not more important to me today, would be to see that pipeline increase. And, you know, we're looking at doing it really broadly in three different ways. One of them is through an assessment of the opportunities that we have around some of the existing facilities that we have. And, you know, I've been pleasantly surprised by kind of the scope for expansion that we have. around those facilities and it's pretty cost competitive given kind of the interconnections that you have there and the infrastructure that's there. So that's one. Two, just organic growth of opportunities that we have and we have a number that we're working on there. And then finally, looking at potential acquisitions, you know, to tuck in and increase the portfolio going forward. So, you know, I'd like to see us work on that, you know, before we would, you know, do any big sort of adjustment in terms of the target that we have. Want to make sure we execute well, too.
spk08: Got it. And it does give you a bit of room just to be mindful of any uncertainties or really focus on risk management as well. Okay. Exactly. That's good. Thank you. Thank you very much.
spk01: Thank you. And at this time, we have no further questions. Please proceed with closing comments.
spk00: Thank you, everyone. That concludes our call for today. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to the TransAlta Investor Relations team. Thank you very much and have a great day.
spk01: Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. At this time, we ask that you please disconnect your lines. Have a good weekend.
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