9/25/2025

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Operator
Conference Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Tamborin Resources Fiscal Year 2025 fourth quarter earnings release. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the phone presentation. If anyone should require operator assistance, please press star zero on your telephone keypad. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Dick Stoneburner. Thank you. You may begin.

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Hello, everyone, and welcome to Tamborin Resources Financial Year 2025 Fourth Quarter Earnings Presentation. My name is Dick Stoneburner, and I am the Chairman and Interim CEO of Tamborin. And I'm joined here today by our Chief Financial Officer, Eric Dyer. Moving to slide two, you can see our disclaimer, which relates to forward-looking statements within the presentation. I encourage you to review this at your leisure. Moving to slide three. The fourth quarter has been a period of incredible activity for Tamborin. We delivered and announced record flow rates from the 5,500-foot horizontal section in the SS2H sidetrack worn well. Importantly, the well delivered an extremely flat decline over the 90-day period, including a surprising 2% increase over the last 30 days of testing without downhole intervention or changes to the choke. I believe we could be seeing the enhanced matrix connectivity achieved during the simulation program and performance from a formation that has 40 percent higher gas in place and 20 percent higher TOC than the Marcellus Shale. In July, we commenced the most aggressive drilling campaign in the history of the Bulu Basin. The program includes three wells that have been drilled utilizing batch drilling techniques, each with a 10,000-foot horizontal section within the Med Valkyrie B Shale. I'm happy to report that earlier this week, we reached TV on the second of the three wells, delivering record drilling speeds through the horizontal section in the formation. I am also proud to highlight that during the period, we received consent from native tidal holders to sell gas under the legislative appraisal framework. This is the first approval secured from native tidal holders under the new Beneficial Use of Gas legislation, allowing us to sell appraisal gas from the exploration permit for three years. The BJV will now focus on securing necessary approvals to support longer-term production. As we highlighted earlier in the quarter, we have commenced the farm-out process, incorporating approximately 400,000 acres in the most development-ready acreage in the Beetaloo Basin. We've attracted strong interest from a range of highly qualified counterparties who are attracted by the strong technical properties of our acreage and the constructive commercial and regulatory environment. Discussions are ongoing, and we will update the market at the appropriate time. Our board was also strengthened with former Pioneer Natural Resources Director and CEO, Mr. Scott Sheffield, and Mr. Philip Pace joining the company as non-executive directors. that each bring extensive leadership, operational, financial, capital raising, strategic partnering, and risk management expertise to Tamborin. We ended the quarter with U.S. $45.2 million in cash and receivables of U.S. $26 million, including U.S. $11 million proceeds from tranche two of pipe transaction, which was received in July, and US $15 million from an acreage sale to DWE. We are also progressing discussions with financiers to secure the remaining funder of the SPCF construction. Finally, I want to emphasize that our search for a new CEO continues to progress, and we expect to announce the new position before the end of the calendar year. Moving to slide four, During the quarter, we announced record IP 30, 60, and 90-day rates from the SS2H slide ST1 well, a reminder that the well was tested over approximately 5,500 feet of horizontal section within the mid-Valkyrie Shale. Rates from the well increased approximately 2 percent during the final 30 days without changes in the choke or downhole interventions. This may indicate significant matrix contribution and enhanced fracture conductivity. We have continued to compare flow rates from the Beteloo Basin's mid-Valkyrie B-Shale to the Marcellus Shale. However, what we are starting to see is the Beteloo Basin showing its own distinct character, which may indicate lower declines supported by higher gas in place, higher TOC, or total organic carbon, and higher gas saturation. Additional and longer-duration testing of these wells will support what the ultimate EUR these wells will deliver. This is the key reason for the pilot project, and we look forward to providing updates on these longer-term tests once we commence gas sales next year. Moving to the next slide, as I mentioned earlier, we have completed drilling of the first two wells in the three-well campaign. The three wells were batch drilled meaning we drilled each section of the well separately, which allows for much more efficient drilling operations. This has only been able to be efficiently completed in the Bealoo Basin using Homer and Payne's SuperSpec FlexRig 3. We continue to learn from our drilling operations, and this program has seen the implementation of anti-vibrating technology to address tool failures, as well as modifications to the MET system. These changes have resulted in year-on-year improvement on basin-leading drilling rates within the target Valkyrie B shale. We have seen a level of tool failure within our drilling program, resulting in non-productive time on the SS4 and 5H wells. We are continuing to work with our oilfield service providers to reduce this non-productive time and improve further on our drilling profiles as we target SPUD to total depth that is potentially considerably less than 25 days. Moving to the next slide, I want to provide an update on the two infrastructure projects being delivered to transport our additional volumes to the local pipeline network and achieve successful gas sales. Firstly, the SPCF is a Tamborne and DWE-owned compression and dehydration facility that will process the gas ahead of delivering into the pipeline. We secured approval from the Northern Territory government earlier this quarter and completed the key earthworks on the site. The compressors and the TEG unit have been delivered to the site and lifted to their final locations. Essentially, we have all pieces in place to start the pipework and connections of the facility, head of completion and commissioning in mid-2026, subject to duration of the wet season. The Sturt Plateau Pipeline is owned by the Australian pipeline company APA Group, which will connect the SPCF to the gas sales point on the APA-owned Amadeus gas pipeline, which is a local pipeline network in the Northern Territory. APA received approval from the government to commence construction of the pipeline and is expected to be completed by the end of the year. Tamborin will pay a fixed monthly tariff to APA for use of the pipeline. Moving to our cash position, we enter the quarter with U.S. $45.2 million in cash, up 20 million U.S. following the receipt of cash relating to the first tranche from the pipe transaction undertaken in May. Tamborin shareholders approved the second $11 million U.S. tranche in July. The majority of cash flow related to funding of these SS2H ST1 stimulation and flow testing and the successful SS3H remediation activities. Sanborn expects to receive the US $15 million cash payment from Daily Waters Energy by the end of the year. Our cash balance and receivables are US $71.1 million We continue to move towards securing a financing facility to fund our remaining share of the SPCF infrastructure, and we hope to be able to announce this in the near future. Moving to slide eight, you can see that we have a busy year ahead of us as we deliver on our commitment to commence gas sales from the Beedlew Basin. If I think back to 15 months ago when we listed Tamborin on the New York Stock Exchange, we made a commitment to commence gas sales in mid-2026. Since then, with huge credit to our team and key stakeholders, we have maintained this schedule and are getting closer to delivering on this promise. I believe the Beedaloo Basin has the potential to transform not only the Northern Territory, but Australia's East Coast as a whole, delivering energy security to Territorians and a pathway to potentially securing long-term energy security for Australia's East Coast gas market. I want to thank our shareholders for the continued support and look forward to providing an update on our activities at our next earnings call in November. With that, I would like it to hand over to the operator for questions.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star 2 to remove yourself from the queue. for participants using speaker equipment. It may be necessary to pick up the handset before pressing the start keys. And one moment, please, while we poll for questions. Our first question comes from the line of Scott Hanold with RBC Capital. Please proceed with your question.

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Scott Hanold
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Thanks. Good afternoon here and good morning there. My first question is around drill times. These last two wells, you've gotten pretty close to the target, 25 days. But you did indicate there were some tool failures. Can you give us a little bit of color on what specifically you've encountered? And if you get those resolved, where do you think you can get the drilling days at?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

That's a great question. We're seeing the typical failures that we see all across North America with horizontal drilling, particularly in rather hostile environments as far as temperature and pressure is concerned. It's the rotary steerable systems, mud motors, the typical downhole failures. But what I would tell you that we've actually looked at the best segments of each well that we've encountered over the last two wells. and when you put those best segments together, we're right at 19 days. So that gives you a sense, even without additional sputter rigs or oil-based mud or some of the other things that we're planning on doing in the future that will cut drill times as well, we're standing here today with our best well potentially being 19 days. So I think it's really positive, and that's why I kind of mentioned that I think we could have significant improvement over the 25 to 27 days that we've seen with most of the well so far.

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Scott Hanold
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it. Got it. That sounds great. And then you obviously, it sounds like it'd be, um, starting to frack, uh, the number four well, you're probably soon at some point. And, um, you know, can you remind us what, what, what is the plan for that? Well, you're, you're going to, you're going to, um, you basically stimulate the well and you plan on doing a flow test on that one. And, uh, and then shutting it in to bring the pilot project online.

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Yeah, that's exactly right, Scott. If we get off this well, you know, call it early to mid-October, we'll immediately demobilize the drilling rig, mobilize Liberty. I think as you saw when you were there a month or so ago, it's on the corner of the pad right now, so it's sitting waiting on ready. It's going to be, you know, the – very similar to the simulations we've done on previous wells. I think we're talking about maybe cutting back on the water a little bit, potentially going back to the same volume of sand we used on the one well. But other than that, it's going to be pretty much cookie-cutter to what we've been doing on the first two wells. Was there another component of the question that I didn't answer?

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Scott Hanold
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah, in the flow test, are you going to do a 30-day flow test?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Yeah, we will. We'll do what we've been doing in the past. We'll do a quick flow down or flow test drawn down the water. We want to get down to about 150 barrels per million, something like that. Once we see that, we'll shut it in. We're going to continue soaking these wells until proven otherwise. We'll soak it for probably about 30 days and then do a 30-day flow test. So that puts us kind of right around... you know, the early first quarter when we should have results.

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Scott Hanold
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Got it, thanks. And just one kind of quick follow-up on the completion. And, you know, when we were out there, you know, a few weeks ago, there were a lot of, obviously, the sand was already on site. Is all the sand on site, is that ample for the frac tub, or are you going to need to bring in more?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

No, it's ample. We're actually trying to get sand on location for the balance of the wells in the spring. So it's an ongoing effort to continue to build up our inventory of sand As you know, the wet season can make logistics like that challenging, so we're going to try and get ahead of it and get our sand on location. That's right. Great. Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you, Scott. Our next question comes from the line of Kalei of Acme with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.

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Kalei of Acme
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, good morning, guys. Hi, Dick.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Good morning.

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Kalei of Acme
Analyst, Bank of America

How are you? Yeah, good morning. You are now leading the company at what is a pretty critical time here. There is execution of the remaining pilot wells, and you talked about some of the changes that you're making to the forthcoming wells on that pad, and that's very exciting. The data room for the farm down is now also open, and I think in that setup there's a couple of questions that are top of mind for me. So for the first question, I want to focus on the farm down, and I'll keep this pretty open-ended. Simply help us understand what a successful outcome here could look like. And I'll pause there for a response, and I've got a second question.

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Yeah, I think it's a little premature to give any specifics in terms of valuation that we might expect. You know, it's an ongoing process. It's a negotiated process. We want to achieve the best outcome that we can for the company. And, you know, I think you're aware of how much potential value there is in this basin. But we're really not going to discuss any specific types of considerations at this point. Just be aware that we've had a good response. We have people that are quite interested from a wide range of company types, if you will. So we're encouraged. But that's about as much as we can say right now.

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Kalei of Acme
Analyst, Bank of America

Got it. For my second question, I want to come back to the original business plan. where there was an equal focus on domestic gas sales and LNG development. As you kind of take over strategy here and look for the next CEO, are you still interested in pursuing both development opportunities?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Both the different markets that are available to us, is that the question?

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Kalei of Acme
Analyst, Bank of America

Yes, domestic gas sales plus LNG development. Are you still interested in pursuing both?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Absolutely. There's just different timelines for each of those different markets that are available to us. Obviously, we're going to be selling first gas sometime mid-26, let's call it that. And that's obviously to the Northern Territory. We're going to continue to ramp up those volumes that could take eventually gas to the Southeast markets. But it's going to take, as you know, quite a bit of infrastructure to get long-haul pipe to the southeast markets, but that is our goal. It's kind of phase two and layer on those volumes as we finish the completion of the infrastructure toward the southeast markets. And then ultimately, Australia clearly needs additional gas volume for their domestic demand, but it's the type of basin we have here and the opportunity we have in terms of deliverability is This additional gas will need to get on the water, but that's a long-dated exercise. Is it initial brownfield on existing Darwin LNG facilities? Is it moving toward a greenfield at Northern Territory NT LNG? I think all of the above are in play, but it's a matter of timing. It's probably a matter of who our farm and partner would be. Each of those parties might have a little different view on on the most optimal markets, both domestically and on the water. So we'll certainly listen to what those thoughts are that our farming partner might have. But, yeah, we still have all of the above in terms of market opportunities for us. Really, this is a 10-plus year project where there's plenty of volume to put on the water at that point.

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Kalei of Acme
Analyst, Bank of America

I appreciate it, Dick. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

You're welcome. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Charles Mead with Johnson Rice. Please proceed with your question.

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Charles Mead
Analyst, Johnson Rice

Good morning, Dick, to you and all the Tim Bourne team.

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Hey, Charles.

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Charles Mead
Analyst, Johnson Rice

Dick, you've talked about the farm out a little bit, and I recognize that it's always sensitive to talk about a process that's ongoing, but Can you give us any sense at the margin when you expect to conclude the farm-out process? I think your materials say 1Q26, but are we going to learn about it in 1Q26, or is this something that would maybe slide to 2Q?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

I think the best-case scenario is that somewhere around that time we will have a conclusion and something we'll announce to the market. but I really don't want to get any more specific on the timing of that. You know how these processes work. There's a lot of people involved working at different paces. We want to give everybody the opportunity to study the asset as much as they can. So I think 1Q26 is a reasonable expectation for something we would announce to the market.

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Charles Mead
Analyst, Johnson Rice

Got it. That is helpful, Dick. And then, Dick, I also want to go back to the – you know, this kind of strange production behavior from, strange but welcome production behavior from the SS2H. And you talked about this a little bit in your prepared comments. Do you have any kind of, is there any kind of new ideas at the margin that would kind of explain this mystery of how the well was inclining on days 60 to 90? And I'm just wondering, I mean, was there a, We talked about sand loading, but was there maybe a different sand source that you used in this well versus previous wells? Anything incremental there?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Yeah. I don't think the nature of the sand that we pump between the two wells is materially different. So I would dismiss that as a likely explanation. I think I might have explained to you in previous conversations that I think it's pointing to two explanations in my mind. One's more geologic in that we have a unique set of rocks, and unique is understatement. As you know, these rocks are four times older than any other shale basin in North America. They're very unique in the fabric in which they were deposited. So without getting into more geologic background, they are very unique. It's the oldest petroleum system in the world. There's nothing like it. So I think that does just connect the dots type analysis without any further statement. I think that does provide some explanation as to why there might be a different performance than any other shale wells that we've seen in North America or really anywhere else. Secondarily, there could be some reservoir engineering explanations in terms of the flow back. We don't know that yet since we shut it in. I think the reservoir engineers would like to see more data. to kind of put in their computer and see if they can come up with explanations. But I think it's one of the two, if not both. I think both is probably a likely event in any situation like this. It's not one factor. But I think there is a unique set of rocks, and we'll know more when we put these wells not just on test but into production. That's not far in front of us. Again, call it mid-year, next year, by the end of 26th, Will we have a better feel for the decline profile and maybe more explanations as to why? I think that's the time we'll really know or at least have a lot better data set to make that assumption.

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Charles Mead
Analyst, Johnson Rice

Right. That's a helpful elaboration, Dick. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

You're welcome. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Jeff Gramp with Northland Capital Markets. Please proceed with your question.

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Jeff Gramp
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

Hi, Dick. Thanks for the time. Mike. Morning. As you guys wrap up the drilling program here over the next month or so, what factors are at play for timing and magnitude, I suppose, of the next drilling program? Would you say that's largely dictated by the farm-out process and the outcome there over the next handful of months, or what other factors are you guys evaluating for the next drilling program?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

I think the 26th campaign is largely driven by the farm out process and who our partner is, how and when they want to proceed. I think ideally we'd like to get started as soon as we could after the conclusion of the wet season. So we've got a lot of planning for that. And so there's a bit of a timing issue to make sure that we're creating – initiating a program that is consistent with the farmer's desires. In other words, geologic subsurface decisions. We don't necessarily want to make them arbitrarily, but we also have permits that we've got to get from the government. We've got to get long lead items. So there's a lot of moving parts, and we're trying to juggle them as best we can. But I think the base answer to your question is, ideally, we're bringing the rig back on location to the appropriate pad. You know, call it second quarter of 26. Great.

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Jeff Gramp
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

That's a way to answer your question. Yep, that's perfect. Thank you. For my follow-up, it sounded like on these upcoming wells, the completion design is not really going to change that materially. I heard you right from the earlier question, Dick. On the production side or how you flow these wells, Is it a similar answer there, or has anything from the 2-H maybe given the team some thought on how you produce these wells in the early days from a choke management standpoint?

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

You took the words out of my mouth with choke management. I think we're a little more deliberate with our choke management and overall production practice on the 2-H. I think it may have a bearing on the performance. As you know, being involved in shale, as long as you guys have, you can't change very many things in one time and really know what provided a different outcome. So in this case, we're kind of focusing on water. I think I mentioned, obviously, that these are very, very old reservoir. It's highly desiccated, and there's really no water in the system whatsoever, and that's what basically desiccation means. And so when we pump water, it basically is absorbed by the rock, and that's part of the reason why we soak them, is to get that imbibition which creates the water being absorbed into the rock fabric and then the gas coming out as a replacement for that. But I think that because it's desiccated, we don't feel like we need as much water as, say, a typical North American frack in the Hainesville. You know, back in Haynesville designs now are upwards of 100 barrels per foot or more. We pump 50 barrels per foot. We're going to dial that back a little bit, I think. But I think that's the primary change. Our sand volumes, our profit loading on the two wells, we're not all that different. I personally don't see a great element of those sand volumes creating a difference. We're going to land probably somewhere in between the two. I think one was around $2,200 and one was about $2,800. I think those are the bookends for sand loading in this reservoir. I do think the team is leaning towards, like I said, less water, and we'll see how that results, but also the choke management and maintaining a very deliberate management of the choke as we test it.

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Jeff Gramp
Analyst, Northland Capital Markets

That's really helpful, Dick. I appreciate the time. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

You're welcome. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Anish Kapadia with Hannum. Please proceed with your question.

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Anish Kapadia
Analyst, Hannum

Hi, Dick. I had a few questions, please. On the SPCF funding, I just wanted to get a quick update on that. You still kind of thinking about selling that down or debt funding that? And, you know, on the back of that, then will you be fully funded to First Gas Second one, just in terms of, I suppose, some of the newer term upside potential from the kind of current plan of 40 million cubic feet per day. Within the local market, it seems like there is still some kind of further unmet demand or other potential. So just wondering kind of in the kind of maybe kind of 2027, 2028 timeframe, whether there's potential to then sell more gas into that local market. And then just a final one. Go ahead. Sorry, yeah, just one final one on EP161. I saw that Santos is planning to drill in the middle of next year. So just wanted to see your thoughts in terms of that acreage and your participation in that.

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Thank you. Yeah, great questions. Let me pass the first one over to Eric. He's much more involved in the SPCF. So, Eric, why don't you take the first question? Yeah. Hey, Anish. How are you? So, we're still pursuing the infrastructure debt facility, and we've spent about $20 million gross with our partner, Daily Waters Energy. To date, balance of that funding needed as we communicate to the market is about $70 to $80 million. So, we're... Walking down that path, there's very good interest in these assets. I mean, this is, it's very much a base and opening infrastructure play. And remember, this is under our beneficial use of gas. So it's not as a permanent fixture, but you're absolutely right. There is opportunity to provide more gas into that market and additional demand. I think the current planning is to get the infrastructure facility in place. get the funding for that in place. And then there are several parties that we were in discussions with that we could either sell it down, sell down a portion of it, you know, subject to approval and working with the native title holders and under the regulations of the territory, expand that production facility for really a modest incremental cost to double it. And the economics, as you know, it's scalable. It just gets better and better as we expand into that market, that unmet demand. Does that answer your question?

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Anish Kapadia
Analyst, Hannum

Yeah, that's great. Thanks.

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

Yeah, and let me pick up the Santo CP161 question. We're excited about, you know, drilling wells over there. I think, as you know, there's two depot centers in the basin. one in the Shenandoah area, much larger than EP161. But still, I think they're equally good in terms of pressure, reservoir quality, number of benches available to us. So we're really excited about Santos' drilling program for 26. As we understand, there will be two wells drilled. And I think any more details on those wells would probably be best served coming out of Santos. But I'll just tell you that we are We are planning on participating in those wells. We look forward to them. You know, it's been a while since a well has been tested over there, back in 21, if I'm not mistaken. And, you know, we can improve on that well design significantly to probably deliver considerably better results. So, again, really excited about it and looking forward to partnering with Santos on the wells. Any other questions? Okay, good. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Paul Diamond with Citi. Please proceed with your question.

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Paul Diamond
Analyst, Citi

Thank you. Good morning. I'm just taking the call. Just want to get a quick kind of touch base on. So the native title holder agreements for three years. How should we think about that next round of negotiation? Is that just, you know, an extension? Is that back to the table? You're looking for a longer duration. Just kind of think about, you know, what comes next there.

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

I'll start the answer with a broad statement and let Eric provide more color. But there are very specific processes we need to undertake with the native title holders as we move toward a production license. It's very deliberate. It's prescriptive. It's something that will defer to every need that the native title holders are granted. But Eric, do you want to pick up and give more detail on those processes and how we work through them? Yeah, it's a good question, Paul. So we have three years to be able to sell gas under the appraisal from the beneficial use of gas legislation. And this is really to avoid flaring during the appraisal process. And as you know, the local demand is there. So it's a win-win for everyone. We've commenced discussions to secure the Indigenous Land Use Agreement. It's an ILUA is the acronym. I know it's a little difficult, but this is a very normal period of consultation. It can take anywhere up to three years where you're having meetings on country with the right government authorities in the room, and it's a process of what do you expect, what would we like to do, how does it provide local jobs, royalties, all the things that go into that type of discussion, as in any mining project or oil and gas project in Australia. But when you get through that, that provides you with a production license, and that's really your HVP, right, for the American equivalent. But it's an important nuance, and you asked the right question, because this whole three-year period is under a temporary agreement, and that is really to avoid flaring. I mean, we need the data, but flaring is not good for us, for the environment. It's loss of revenue. So we're really, really proud of the Northern Territory government and the forethought they put into this while we're going to be working on the longer HVP strategy with the native title holders.

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Paul Diamond
Analyst, Citi

got it makes perfect sense and just a quick follow-up you guys have talked previously about trying to find a way whether it's you know in post phase or post pilot or phase two to getting more of a local sand solution in place just wanted to see kind of is that still in the plans for phase two and kind of how we should think about like the progress there yeah local sand is is obviously a

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Dick Stoneburner
Chairman and Interim CEO

A key focus of ours, every single basin, I think, in North America has evolved to providing local sand, some more local than others. We have done extensive testing throughout the basin with the auger test to get some idea in terms of the quality of the sand. We need to know what its compressive strength is. We need to know what the grain size and the variability in the grain size is. So there's a lot of that initial research, if you will, And that's kind of where we are. There are certain procedures that we'll need to follow to affect a mine in the long run. We're working with some of our partners, such as Liberty, who have had experience in this and got us through the process. But I think rest assured that we have every intent to use local sand, but we need to make sure we follow the both the technical analysis and any procedural analysis we have to do from a governmental standpoint.

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Paul Diamond
Analyst, Citi

Does that answer your question? It does. Thanks for your time over there.

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Operator
Conference Operator

You bet. Thank you. And ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session. And also, if this does conclude today's conference, you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you and have a great day.

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