1/29/2020

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you for standing by and welcome to the TE Connectivity first quarter earnings call for fiscal year 2020. At this time, all lines are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question and answer session. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Vice President of Investor Relations, Sujal Shah. Please go ahead.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Good morning, and thank you for joining our conference call to discuss TE Connectivity's first quarter 2020 results. With me today are Chief Executive Officer Terrence Curtin and Chief Financial Officer Heath Mitz. During this call, we will be providing certain forward-looking information and we ask you to review the forward-looking cautionary statements included in today's press release. In addition, we will use certain non-GAAP measures in our discussion this morning and we ask you to review the sections of our press release and the accompanying slide presentation that address the use of these items. The press release and related tables, along with the slide presentation, can be found on the investor relations portion of our website at te.com. Also, within the industrial segment, we have broken out sales for our medical business separately from industrial equipment. On slide 17 and on our website, you will see eight quarters of historical revenue for the medical business and industrial equipment for your reference. There is no change to our segment reporting or those numbers. Due to the large number of participants on the Q&A portion of today's call, we are asking everyone to limit themselves to one question to make sure we can give everyone an opportunity to ask questions during the allotted time. We are willing to take follow-up questions, but ask that you rejoin the queue if you have a second question. Now let me turn the call over to Terrence for opening comments.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Shuzo, and thank you everyone for joining us today to cover our first quarter results as well as our increased outlook for fiscal 2020. As I normally do before we get into the slides, I do want to frame out some of the key points that Heath and I will bring out during today's call. First is that things are playing out as we expected when we provided our original guidance to you 90 days ago. Our expectations of markets in fiscal 2020 is essentially unchanged. Our order patterns are indicating stability, and the distribution to stocking that we talked about for a few quarters is trending as we expected. Now, in addition to the things playing out, I'm also very pleased with our execution in the first quarter. And this is against the continued challenging market backdrop. We delivered revenue above the guidance midpoint and adjusted earnings per share above the high end of guidance, driven by strong operational execution across our segments. Based upon our strong first quarter, we are raising our full year guidance to reflect the outperformance in the first quarter And we're maintaining a view of the second half that is consistent with our guidance that we gave you 90 days ago. And then finally, there are two things that we've talked about with you and we're focused on within this market backdrop that we're operating in. First is we're going to continue to focus on content growth that will enable outperformance versus the underlying end markets that we position TE around. And we are continuing to benefit from these secular trends across our businesses. The second key thing is that we continue to improve our earnings power by executing on cost actions and footprint consolidation plans, which we will expect to generate higher margins and earnings from the first half to the second half of our fiscal year. So with that as a quick summary, let's get into the slides, and let me ask you to turn to slide three, and I'll get into some of the highlights from the first quarter. Sales of $3.2 billion exceeded the midpoint of our guidance representing 5% year-on-year declines on both reported and organic basis driven by market weakness. While a number of our markets are challenging, we continue to demonstrate content growth across our business, and this can be whether it's an electric vehicle or autonomous features in transportation, next-generation aircraft, and non-invasive medical procedures in our industrial segment or cloud computing and communications. By segment, transportation, was down 6% organically, as we expected, driven by production declines in both the auto market as well as commercial transportation market. Industrial solutions saw growth 1% organically, which was ahead of our guidance, driven by continued strength in AD&M, medical, and energy. And our communications segment declined 14% organically, as we expected, driven by continued inventory to stocking in the distribution channel, which we've been talking about for a few quarters. As we've highlighted to you, supply chain adjustments take a few quarters to play out, and this is happening as we expected, supported by our orders increasing sequentially and our book-to-bill ending the quarter at 102, and I'll cover that when I cover the order slide in a few minutes. From an earnings perspective, adjusted operating margins were approximately 16% as we expected. Adjusted earnings per share was $1.21, which exceeded the high end of our guidance, driven by higher sales and execution of our cost initiatives. On a 5% sales decline, adjusted earnings per share declined at a similar rate, demonstrating strong operating performance and the benefit of pulling levers to reduce costs in an uncertain market environment to preserve earnings resiliency. From a cash flow perspective, our free cash flow was very strong during the quarter at approximately $245 million, and we returned approximately $300 million back to our owners through dividends and share repurchases. I want to be clear that our capital strategy continues to include capital deployment to build out our portfolio inorganically and capitalize on secular trends to drive future growth. Now let me turn over and talk about our full year guidance briefly, and I'll come back towards the end of the call and get into more details about it. For the full year, this does reflect the upside in our first quarter and a view of the second half that is consistent with our prior view. We now expect sales of $13.05 billion. The sales guidance assumes organic declines for the year of 1% to 3%. On a year-on-year basis, our sales guidance reflects a decline of approximately $400 million. Half of this is due to currency exchange rates, and the other half is driven by the market weakness and distribution inventory to stocking, which we discussed with you last quarter. We are raising the low end of our adjusted EPS guidance to get to a midpoint of $5.10. This midpoint continues to include $0.30 of year-over-year headwinds from currency and tax impacts, which is the same as our guide from last quarter. While we can influence the market environment, I am pleased that we continue to execute on leverage which we can control to drive our cost reduction and footprint consolidation plans, while continuing to invest in the long-term growth and our content opportunities. As we discussed last quarter, we expect to generate improvements in both margin and earnings per share as we move from the first half to the second half of this fiscal year. So with that as a backdrop of our first quarter results, let me get into order trends, and I'd ask you to turn to slide four. For the first quarter, our book to bill was 1.02, and this exceeded one for the first time since the second quarter of 2019 and reflects an improving supply chain as well as stability in certain end markets. Organic orders were down 2% year over year, but we did see orders grow sequentially, signaling stabilization in some of the key markets. When I talk about orders, I'm going to talk about them on a sequential basis, as this help lays out the foundation for our quarter two guidance and how we're thinking about the shape of our year. In transportation, orders declined slightly sequentially as we expected, driven by North America, and this was offset by growth in China. In Europe, in transportation, orders were essentially flat on a sequential basis. And as we think about the market, we continue to expect global auto production to be stable at a run rate of approximately 21 million units per quarter through fiscal 2020. Turning to industrial, our orders grew sequentially across all regions, and the growth was driven by ADNM as well as medical. In the communication segment, we saw strong sequential order growth in both appliances and data devices, reinforcing our expectation of growth in the second half. And as we talked about the distribution channel from an overall basis, and certainly the channel impacts our CS segment the most, as well as our industrial equipment business and industrial, our orders did decline 10% year over year, as we expected. But more importantly, we saw order growth grow double-digit sequentially, and it reinforced our view of the inventory normalization that we expect by the end of quarter two and will drive sequential growth as we get into the second half of the year. So with that being a summary of orders, let's get into the segment performance, and I'll start with transportation. That begins on slide five. Transportation sales were down 6% organically year over year as we expected. Our auto sales were down 3% organically driven by global auto production declines. Once again, we continue to outperform auto production due to content growth driven by the increase in electric vehicles as well as autonomous features in vehicles. In our commercial transportation business, sales were down 16% organically driven by weakness in North America and Europe, and this was partially offset by growth in China as a result of China's six emissions adoption, as well as content gains by us. In sensors, our sales were down 11% organically, and this was driven by the weakness in the commercial transportation and industrial end markets. In auto, our sensors revenue was flat year over year, despite production declines, and it reflects the ramps of the new design twins that we've been talking about for a number of years. From a margin perspective, adjusted operating margins were 17.4%, as expected, down year-over-year on lower volumes. So let's turn to industrial solution segment, and that starts on slide six. For the segment, sales grew 1% organically year-over-year, and this was above our expectations. Three of our businesses in the segment saw very strong growth, which was partially offset by ongoing weakness in the industrial equipment market. Our aerospace, defense, and marine business delivered another very strong quarter of 9% organic growth, driven by content growth and new programs in both commercial aerospace as well as defense. As Sujal mentioned earlier, we are now breaking out our medical business from our industrial equipment business to give you greater visibility to another area of growth within TE. Just as a reminder, in medical, we serve both the interventional and surgical imaging markets. And the key area of focus, from an application perspective, are areas around minimally invasive medical products. What's great here is we are a partner of choice to premier OEMs, and our technology enables customers to build the medical devices that save lives, as well as reduce costs. What's really nice about what we built here is that our engineering capability, as well as track record of quality, medical expertise, and broad technical offering really differentiate TE in this market. From a performance perspective in the quarter, the medical business grew 7%, and it was driven by growth entirely by interventional applications. And this trend is one that's going to continue to drive growth for quite some time for us. In our energy business, had a very nice quarter. It was up 12% organically, and this growth was being driven by investments in renewable energies as well as infrastructure upgrades in certain parts of the world. In the industrial equipment business, our sales were down 15% organically, driven by both weak market conditions and factory automation applications, as well as this unit is being impacted by distribution inventory to stocking. From an earnings perspective, adjusted operating margins were down as we expected due to the cost from footprint optimization activities. And as we talked to you before, we continue to remain on track with our multi-year margin expansion plans for the segment. So with that, I'd like to turn to slide seven and let me get into communication solutions. Data devices sales were down 15% organically, and our appliance business sales were also down double-digit organically, and these were in line with our expectations. We saw demand-driven weakness across all regions, along with ongoing inventory to stocking in the distribution channel. As a reminder, this segment has the highest percentage of our business going through distribution, so they will always have a greater impact from channel dynamics than the other two segments. As I mentioned earlier, What's really nice is we did see sequential growth in orders for both of these businesses, which gives us confidence of growth as we move into the second half of our fiscal year. Margins in the segment were 12.1%, and they were impacted by the volume-driven sales decline. And we expect to return to mid-teen target margins in the second half as distribution channel normalizes to be more in line with market conditions. With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Heath, who will go through the financials in some more detail, and I'll come back and cover guidance in a little bit.

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Heath Mitz
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Terrence, and good morning, everyone. Please turn to slide eight, where I will provide more details on the Q1 financials. Adjusted operating income was $502 million, with an adjusted operating margin of 15.8%. GAAP operating income was $471 million, and included $24 million of restructuring and other charges and $7 million of acquisition charges. We continue to expect fiscal 2020 restructuring charges to be similar to fiscal 2019. Adjusted EPS was $1.21, down 6% year-over-year. And as Terrance mentioned, on a 5% sales decline, adjusted EPS declined at a similar rate. demonstrating our ability to execute on multiple levers to drive earnings performance. GAAP EPS was $0.07 for the quarter, but that included a tax-related charge of $1.05, which was related to the impact of the Swiss tax reform that we had talked to you about last summer. This was a non-cash charge. We also had restructuring, acquisition, and other charges of $0.09. The adjusted effective tax rate in Q1 was 18.6%, and for the full year, we continue to expect an adjusted effective tax rate of around 18 to 18 and a half, and that's unchanged from our prior review from 90 days ago. Importantly, we expect our cash tax rate to stay well below our reported ECR for the full year. Now, if you turn to slide nine, Sales of $3.2 billion were down 5% year-over-year on both a reported and organic basis. Currency exchange rates negatively impacted sales by $43 million versus the prior year. Adjusted operating margins were 15.8% as expected. As Terrence mentioned, we expect margin expansion from the first half to the second half of the year as we see benefits of sales growth and the cost actions we've initiated over the past year. I continue to be pleased with the progress we are making and driving improvements to our cost structure. The team is executing well, but we still have work to do on our footprint optimization plan. As discussed in the past, this is a multi-year journey, but I feel like we're on the track. In the quarter, cash from continuing operations was $411 million, up 25% year-on-year. Free cash flow was $243 million. and we returned $297 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases in the quarter. Our balance sheet remains strong, and we expect cash flow to remain strong, which provides us the flexibility to utilize cash to support organic growth investments to drive long-term sustainable growth while also allowing us to return capitals to shareholders and continue to pursue full-time acquisitions. We are seeing the benefits of the levers in our business model to help mitigate the impacts of weaker sales on our margin and EPS performance. And as you should expect, we will continue to balance our structural cost actions with our long-term growth investments to ensure sustainability in our business model. So, with that, I'll turn back to Terrence to cover guidance.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Terrence J. Thanks, Heath. And, you know, let me get into our guidance, and I'll get into the second quarter, which is on slide 10. As I mentioned earlier, our markets are playing out as we expected and we laid out for you 90 days ago. Driven by the order patterns that we see in quarter one that I covered earlier, we do expect second quarter revenue of $3.1 billion to $3.3 billion and adjusted earnings per share of $1.22 to $1.28 per share. At the midpoint, this represents declines in reported sales of 6% overall and organic sales of 5% year over year. reflects the weakness in the end markets and the ongoing effects of the stocking and the distribution channel. We do expect growth sequentially from the first quarter to the second in both sales and adjusted earnings per share, and that is a view that gives us confidence about stabilization. By segment, we do expect transportation solutions to be down low single digits organically, and it's mainly going to be driven by the weakness in the commercial transportation market and with mid-single-digit declines in global auto production. Industrial Solutions is expected to be down low single digits organically, with continued market weakness and industrial equipment being partially offset by growth in medical, defense, and energy. And in communications, we expect to be down low teens organically, driven by continued inventory of the stocking and the distribution channel. So please turn to slide 11 and let me get into the full-year guidance. As I covered earlier, we expect full-year sales of $13.05 billion at midpoint, and this will represent year-over-year declines in reported sales of 3% and on an organic basis, 2%. We are continuing to expect year-over-year headwinds of approximately $0.30 from currency exchange and tax rates, and note that most of the year-over-year tax headwind will occur in the second half. Let me get into some more color on our segments that are included in our guidance. In transportation, we expect for the year to be down low single digits organically. We expect our organic auto sales to be flat to down slightly for the full year. And as I mentioned earlier, we continue to expect a global auto production run rate of approximately 21 million vehicles per quarter, resulting in mid-single digits global production declines for fiscal 2020, which is consistent with our prior view. We expect content growth to enable us to continue to outperform declining auto production. We also expect our commercial transportation business to outperform high single-digit market declines in that market due to content growth and share gains this year. In our industrial segment, we expect to grow low single digits organically, with growth in defense, medical, and energy partially offset by declines in industrial equipment. And finally, in communications, we do expect to be down mid-single digits organically, with both data and devices appliances being impacted by the continued broad market weakness in inventory to stocking in the distribution channel. Once we work through the inventory adjustments in the first half, we do expect to move back to positive year-on-year organic growth for the second half of the year in our communications segment. So before I get into questions, let me just recap the key points that we made today, and I'm sure we'll talk more about in Q&A. First, we have built a strong portfolio with leadership positions in the markets we serve. This portfolio that we've built is performing significantly better than the last time we went through a market downturn. You know, this is evident in our quarter one results where we delivered sales and adjusted earnings per share ahead of guidance, and our operating execution enabled us to raise our guidance for fiscal 2020. The second key point are things are playing out as we expected when we provided our guidance 90 days ago. Our expectations of markets in fiscal 2020 is essentially unchanged. Our order patterns are indicating stability, and distribution destocking is trending as we expected, giving us confidence in the sales and earnings growth sequentially in the second half. The third key point is around content, and content growth is enabling outperformance even in declining markets and is helping to buffer the market conditions we're seeing. We're going to continue to benefit from secular trends, whether it's electric vehicles, autonomy, next-generation aircrafts, minimally invasive medical applications, factory automation, or cloud computing. And these trends are going to be with us for a long time. And finally, we are executing on what we can control through our restructuring plans across all of our segments. And we're focused on this to ensure we get greater leverage and earnings power when markets return to growth. So with that, I do want to thank our employees around the world for their continued strong execution as well as our continued commitment toward our customers and a future that is safer, sustainable, productive, and connected. So as usual with that, let's get to Q&A.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Amy, for the instructions for the Q&A session.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. At this time, I would like to remind everyone, in order to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. In order to have time for all questions, each participant is limited to one question. If you would like to ask a follow-up question, please press star one to enter the queue. Your first question comes from the line of Wamsi Mohan with Bank of America. Wamsi, your line is open.

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Wamsi Mohan
Analyst at Bank of America

Yes, thank you. Terrence, nice performance in a pretty tough end market here. So can you maybe talk a little bit in a little bit more detail what your assumptions are for the year for the various end markets and with some color on geographic performance as well? Thank you.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Sure. Thanks, Wamsi. During the call, I used the word stable a lot, and I also said challenging, so if your question's very fair, there's markets that have been strong and are going to continue to be strong. They're medical, certainly defense, energy, and you heard that a lot, and they're in our industrial segment. But when I use the word stable, it really says some of the supply chain things are working off like we saw in distribution, but there still are markets that are challenging. Auto production, we expect to be down a bit single digit. I talked about that around the 21 million units a quarter, and where we position ourselves on content will help get us down to closer to flat on the year versus a negative production environment. The industrial transportation space, certainly that space is one where North America heavy truck rolled over, and we're being impacted by that. But we do expect that market to be down high single digits. for the year because of also how we're positioned in China. You got Euro 6 emissions, you also have strong content gain we have in that market, and that's gonna buffer to get us nice separation there. The other area that I would say that I think is gonna continue to be challenging is the factory automation and industrial equipment market. That's a market that clearly being impacted by capital spending on the planet. Our business both has the underlying market. It's going to continue to be challenged, but we also have some inventory to stocking. So how I would frame, and similar to how we framed it 90 days ago, was we don't see a world where our markets are going to get a lot better this year. We see some of these supply chain effects working through March, basically the end of our second quarter. and we're gonna get our normal seasonality. So I would say the market we're playing with, I'm glad we have the content opportunity, we have the buffer some of it, and we'll start seeing some growth in some of the markets later in the year once the channel effects get off. From a geographic perspective, so hopefully that helps. From a geographic perspective, WAMSI, it was an interesting environment, and I'm probably gonna talk much more around sequentially. You know, we saw China was a little bit better, you know, coming out of our first quarter sequentially. Europe was a little bit worse. And North America was relatively sideways. So it's other things that are very much around how do we see things from a stability perspective. Our book-to-bill was above one in all regions. You know, we were 1.02 overall, which, you know, as I said on the call, was the first time we were above one. gives us a view that things are working through and getting a little bit more back to parity. So, you know, it means we built some backlog, which is good as we get into the second half of the year.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, Wamsi. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Christopher Glenn with Oppenheimer. Christopher, your line is open.

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Christopher Glenn
Analyst at Oppenheimer

Thank you. Good morning. Just wondering if you've seen any interesting changes in the cadence around design cycles in electric vehicles, China and EU come to mind, versus the baseline expectations for the development of that market?

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Chris. When you look at it, what's intriguing is we've always talked to you about electric vehicles and electric vehicle production is probably going to go from about a little bit over 6 million units to over 9 million units. And, you know, this year is going to be really one that's driven by Europe. China, we sort of view, and when I do electric vehicles, many of you know I include plug-in hybrids and hybrids in that number. It's not a pure NEV number, just it's the broader thing. And really what we're seeing is we're seeing a year where China will be sideways. You know, they had some of the stimulus come off from a production, but Europe is going to be the real growth driver. And, you know, you're seeing it with the CO2 regulations. We aren't seeing any changes in designs. We are still of the opinion if you take the two megatrends that we have in automotive around electric vehicle as well as autonomy features, our customers are prioritizing electric vehicles ahead of autonomy. We're going to benefit from both of those trends, which I think is a unique proposition that we have. But the electric vehicle trend is helping drive the content buffer I talked about. And we're not seeing any change in design cycles at all. If anything, you know, they're trying to get their designs done at quicker rates than traditional combustion engines.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay. Thank you, Chris. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Yes. Your next question comes from Craig Hettenbach with Morgan Stanley. Craig, your line is open.

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Craig Hettenbach
Analyst at Morgan Stanley

Yes. Thank you. Terrence, can you provide an update just on the automotive sensor design pipeline and any particular sensor types that you're seeing traction within automotive?

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, no, so a couple of things, Craig. Thanks for the question. First of all, when you look at our sensors results, you know, you see really, you know, 75% of our sensors business from a revenue is still sort of pointed at heavy vehicle as well as the industrial markets. And some of our growth we saw this quarter looks very much similar to what we saw in our industrial equipment and commercial transportation and our core connector products. But our auto center revenue was flat. So certainly getting outperformance versus the mid-single digit declines we're talking about. And the ramps are continuing to happen as we thought. We're being impacted by a slower environment. But the traction we've talked to you about and the pipeline we've talked to you about continues to remain intact, and right now it's really all about production is impacting why we're not seeing more growth other than flat in that market.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, Craig. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Leiker with Baird. David, your line is open.

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Erin Wilson
Representative for David Leiker at Baird

Good morning. This is Erin Wilson back on for David. So a follow-up question on sort of the EV and autonomy discussion. There's been some talk in the industry about architectural changes What are you seeing with respect to EV and autonomy trends, and how do these architectural changes impact content growth for TE?

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Erin, and I will build on the question I talked about earlier. So, number one is, you know, we feel very good about our content growth opportunities. And our content growth opportunities, you have to realize, all starts where does power need to go in the car? Where does signaling need to be in the car? as well as when you deal with autonomy, data. Data is the one that is really the latecomer, but when you deal with power and you go to electric vehicle architecture, you're dealing with different power than a 12-volt or a 48-volt system that we've lived with or are changing to. It's what gives us confidence around this 4% to 6%. As I said, for us, a bigger driver will be electrification. We also will benefit from autonomy as the data network in the car continues to evolve. And architecture in a car always evolves. Our OEM customers are the ones that control the architecture. It is part of how they differentiate, and it's something they own, and they typically don't let a Tier 1 control that. But when you look at it, as those three building blocks build, and what we see, we continue to be encouraged to how that architecture gets evolved and where we're positioned globally. If you think about my discussion earlier about electric vehicles, the trends and the number of units made in the world are going to be more in Asia and in Europe, and we are a leading position in those markets, and we're working with the largest OEMs on those. So nothing has changed around how we think about architecture, where do we play, and what's really nice about TE, we benefit from both. And electric vehicle is more in the front of the brain of our OEM customers, where autonomy has slipped back a little bit. And, you know, feel very good about the 4% to 6% we've talked about.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, Aaron. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jim Subo with Citi Investment. Jim, your line is open.

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Jim Subo
Analyst at Citi

Thank you very much. Can you talk a little bit about the trends that happened in your industry sensor business, maybe on a year-over-year perspective, it looks like they may have taken a little bit of a step down compared to September year-over-year. And then maybe the content on automobiles that you're seeing now, I believe you typically viewed long-term content growth of kind of four to six range, kind of where we're sitting at kind of for this quarter in the outlook. Thank you.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Sure, Jim. Thanks, Jim. First off, on the sensors question, I'll help probably repeat what I said a little bit earlier, you know, in the quarter for sensors, we did have, you know, our growth was reflective about the 75% we have in industrial equipment and commercial vehicle. What we saw in those markets are very similar to what we saw in our connector businesses, which really drove the revenue being down double digit. In auto, we were flat, and that shows the content and the ramps that we're getting. And then secondly, Jim, The separation around the content growth we saw in the quarter and as we're guiding for the year is pretty much right on top of the 4% to 6%, and it's as EVs continue to get adopted and the other trends that get added to the vehicles, you're going to see we expect that automotive will be basically flat to slightly down in a minus single-digit production environment, and that's where our guide is.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, Jim. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sean Harrison with Longbow Research. Sean, your line is open.

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Sean Harrison
Analyst at Longbow Research

Hi, morning everyone, and my congrats on the solid execution this quarter. I believe you already gave an idea of kind of the range of where you expect communications margins to kind of exit the year on a run rate. I was hoping we could get an update on where you would expect transportation and industrial margins to exit the fiscal year.

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Heath Mitz
Chief Financial Officer

Sean, this is Heath, and I appreciate the question. You know, as you mentioned, the CS margins, we feel good about our ability to move into the mid-teens in terms of where we see those margins. And that's reflective of a lot of the hard work the team is doing to mitigate pretty significant top-line pressures in that business. Within industrial, we'll see moderate, you know, nominal, however you want to say it, margin expansion year-over-year. That's a multi-year margin. journey as we've talked about within the industrial business on the footprint consolidation side. There are, in this particular quarter we just finished, sometimes we do run into situations where we have to spend some money in advance of facilities coming offline to get those transitioned correctly and to not disrupt our customers. So, you know, in a given quarter you can see some movement within those types of activities But we still expect industrial to see a nominal margin expansion for the year. And I think if you look at it over a multi-year horizon, as well as our trajectory into the next couple of years, you'll continue to see that we're on plan. Within transportation, we're dealing with a couple of different pieces on the top line pressures that Terrence mentioned earlier, particularly on the commercial transportation side, which is a very profitable business for us. That being down certainly has a pinch point for us. And then, you know, but that's offset with some of the activities within automotive and some of the footprint moves there. Now, these moves, as we talked about them in prior quarters, take a while, particularly the ones outside the U.S. to get offline. And so you'll see more of those savings later in this year and more into FY21 and 22. But I would expect the transportation to be able to hold roughly where it is, maybe a little bit of expansion as we exit the year. Okay, thank you, Sean. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Deepa Redhaven with Wells Fargo Securities. Deepa, your line is open.

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Bharat
Representative for Sumit Chatterjee at JP Morgan

Hey, good morning, all. Hey, Deepa. The question is on automotive momentum, especially in China. Can you help talk about some of, maybe give us some examples or just gently just talk through the momentum there. Is there any fundamental recovery beyond just easy comms in that part of the region? And also, how should we think about the planned closures in China, just putting a wrench on your outlook, if at all, just given this coronavirus scare? Thanks very much.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

No, a couple of things. So let me take the second part of your question first. Certainly on the coronavirus, it's a very fluid situation. China is important, and we're very much focused on dealing with it real time and making sure our employees are safe. That being said, first thing I want to highlight is that we don't have operations or factories in the Wuhan province. Our operations are not in that area. And, you know, we are in the middle of the Lunar New Year celebration, that we are running lower shifts right now as we speak, and we're going to continue to run those lower shifts. But the government has extended the Lunar New Year a few days, and in some of the industrial parks we serve, they are actually shutting in an extra week, and we're going to do everything in compliance with the government. So net-net, it is an uncertainty that we have, but we have those uncertainties in many parts of our business every day. On China momentum, we did see production improve in the first quarter. And like I said in some of my comments already, China was a little bit better. I would say that was around automotive production. Europe was a little worse, net-net getting to a neutral point for the year. I think the one thing that we're trying to keep our eyes on is not only what is production, but what are end sales in China. And end sales, you know, while they... are not declining as they were, still are not accelerating. So we still have a view that China will play out as we thought before. But we did see increased momentum before the Lunar New Year celebration, which sort of got us down to, hey, the supply chain was getting better. But we've got to continue to watch it. And our guidance is sort of unchanged with where we were 90 days ago.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

OK, thank you, Deepa. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Delaney with Goldman Sachs. Mark, your line is open.

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Joe Giordano
Analyst at Cowan

Yes, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I was hoping the company could quantify where inventory in the channel is relative to historical levels on either a dollars or a day's basis. And when you talk about the restock in distribution, or sorry, let me rephrase that. When you talk about better trends into the distribution channel in the second half of the year, are you assuming restock or just that your shipments catch up to what distributors are doing on a sell-through basis? Thanks.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

No, thanks. So first off, we assume there's not restock. We assume it's a parity with demand. So that's a key point and a very good question. You know, when we sit there and what we've looked at, you know, our major channel partners are getting booked to bills above one again. We've talked to them about where did inventory burn through in their December quarter to get back more in parity. And as we told you last quarter, we thought the first half impact was around $100 million. We're about halfway through that, what sort of the destocking was going to be across the network. So what's nice is we're seeing it work out as we thought in the first quarter. It needs to work through in the second quarter. The trend is right on track, and we're actually starting to see a pickup in booking sequentially, as I said, by 10%. Feels like things are moving as expected, and the second half is all about getting to parity with demand, not restocking.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay. Thank you, Mark. We have the next question, please.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Joe Giordano with Cowan. Joe, your line is open.

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Joe Giordano

Hey, guys. Good morning. Just curious, given your broad breadth in auto and who you work with and who you compete against, if you had any What does the BorgWarner Delphi transaction do or not do to the competitive environment in that space?

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

For us, it really does nothing for us. When you look at those two mergers, you're really dealing with more people dealing with the mechanical side of things than our customers. Certainly, in some areas, there are customers, but they would not be major customers. So, for us, that's a net-net nothing.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay. Thank you, Joe. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Kelly with Jefferies. David, your line is open.

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David Kelly
Analyst at Jefferies

Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. You referenced continued strength and defense. Just wondering if you've seen any incremental softness in aerospace and any impact from the Boeing grounding that we should be thinking about through modeling?

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Yes, so a couple of things, and thanks for the question. Certainly, we do have commercial aerospace business. When we talk about aerospace and defense and marine, That business in our industrial segment, about half of its commercial airspace, and it covers all the commercial airframe manufacturers, including Boeing. So, you know, the Boeing situation has impacted us on that airframe specifically. It's probably about a half a point headwind to overall TE growth that, you know, we're absorbing with the diversity of our portfolio. But certainly that market has gotten weaker due to the production schedule Boeing has laid out. The key, I think, for us is that's a nice content driver. That is sort of transitory in my mind, and it'll impact us this year, but when Boeing works through its issues and those planes start to get delivered, we'll get a reacceleration on the other side. So near-term headwind that we've absorbed into our guidance, but it'll become a tailwind once they work through the issue with the FAA.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, David. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Sumit Chatterjee with JP Morgan. Sumit, your line is open.

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Bharat
Representative for Sumit Chatterjee at JP Morgan

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. This is Bharat on for Sumit. So my question is in the communication segment, the expectations heading into 2020 remain for a pickup in hyperscale spending and higher service provider capex towards 5G as well. So can you walk us through expectations for spending from these two verticals? How is that tracking and can there be an upside and outlook for 2020? in the segment overall of these spending ramps through the year? Thank you.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Well, for 2020, thank you for the question. You know, we certainly have seen, you know, that segment has been impacted by the distribution channel. I would say cloud spending, we have seen an improvement in our orders on the cloud side, and certainly that's across many of the cloud providers. And one of the things our team has done a nice job is continue to penetrate and broaden our cloud customer breadth So that is an important growth driver for that segment, and we continue to improve our positioning there. 5G is a little bit of a different story. 5G is one where in places like Korea you have very dense networks that have been laid out, and you get more into the use cases that they're developing. In the U.S., 5G is not moving as quick, mainly due to the merger between T-Mobile that's out there has sort of delayed how does 5G get invested in. So I would say we've seen a pause in 5G investment here in the United States that we hope that once that merger's done, the operators will invest and then we'll benefit from those deployments. We do play in 5G, though, on the infrastructure side. We don't play on the handset side, but it is something that's a good content opportunity as that spending accelerates.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, Bharat. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Yes, your next question comes from the line of William Stein with SunTrust. William, your line is open.

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William Stein
Analyst at SunTrust

Great, thanks for taking my question. An earlier question addressed automotive networks, and one of the things that seemed more prominent this year at CES was the emerging changes in network architecture in cars, specifically ECU consolidation. and automotive networks transitioning to more sort of hierarchical one with domain controllers. Can you comment on how this might affect revenue and margins and maybe mix of cabling versus connectors? Thank you.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

No, certainly. So, first off, you know, it's important that when you say cabling and connectors, you know, we are not a harness maker. And so, you know, as harnesses get rationalized, certainly there's people that are on the wire side are going to get more impact than us because as you even get into more consolidated ECUs, zonal architectures, the interconnects get absolutely more complicated, which play to the strength of which we have. So these architectures have continued to evolve. You know, whether you go to zonal or you go to centralized compute in a car, these are things that how do you continue to get the connection points, the sensing points around are things that are part of our 4% to 6%. This will continue to evolve. Our OEM customers will be the ones that make those architectural decisions of what you see at CES. And what's really nice is how we engage with our OEM customers and our design. We know as those architectural changes are occurring. So when we think about the 4% to 6%, that does assume how the architecture will evolve. And what's really nice is, you know, I remember when we used to talk about architecture and people just wanted to talk about SAR. It's really nice that the content trends, whether it be electric vehicle or autonomy and compute architecture in the car, are things that people are really talking to us about, and that's what we do. And that's what's driving some of the growth trends for TE.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, Will. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Sheeran with Stiefel. Matt, your line is open.

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Matt Sheeran
Analyst at Stifel

Yes, thanks, and good morning. Regarding your positive commentary, Terrence, on the medical industry, market and the nice growth there. How much of that is adoption of newer technologies and an upgrade cycle, if you will, versus share gains? And I know or assume most of these products came from the Craig Anna acquisition from 2016. So any commentary on how that acquisition has been going for you? Thanks.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

I think when you look at the growth, it's a combination of things that we acquired, but also how we continue to bring the capabilities that TE and Craig Anna had. If you look at that business, that business is approaching $800 million, and Kragana was a little bit over $300 million when we bought it. And, you know, we continue to put the capabilities of T-Gate and Kragana together, and we've also had the design center set up where the innovation occurs around interventional devices. What is nice is it is a mix, Matt, to your question. And also what's nice is it's not just the therapies that we're used to today. that we all benefit from, but it's also about the therapies of the future of other areas in the heart where they want to take interventional procedures where they still can't take them today. And that's the innovation that we continue to work on with the largest customers in the world that are focused on this. So it is a combination of new programs, existing programs, and what's nice is with what we've built, we really have the door open with our customers and bringing our engineers in to work on the next generation therapies that the largest companies, medical device companies in the world are working on. So it's really nice. It's going to drive the high single-digit growth that we talked about today, and it's been driving.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay. Thank you, Matt. Can we have the next question, please?

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Operator
Conference Operator

Gentlemen, your final question comes from the line of Joseph Spack with RBC Capital Markets. Joseph, your line is open.

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Joseph Spack
Analyst at RBC Capital Markets

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. Terrence, just... Bigger picture, yesterday we heard a company talk about how as automakers move to new and electric platforms, the connector catalog, so to speak, is opening up for them because they require these new types of interconnect products. And I think you've hinted that the moat could widen as you move towards electrification in these new platforms. So just really want to better understand how you think that business evolves as platforms shift and maybe an example or two of what you're doing to retain and enhance your competitive positioning with the customers.

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Terrence Curtin
Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think one thing that's important when you deal with electric vehicles and the penetration we have is one of the things around electric vehicles, we have to be honest, you're still at, even if we get to the 9 million units we have this year, it's still a small part of an 84 million market. And one of the things, both from the relationships that we have, you also have to get the global scale to continue to bring the cost points of the electric vehicles down. And we view we're part of that equation. So how do you get to standardization? And while certainly different people are driving different technologies, over time we still have to get to a vehicle that people can afford without subsidies long term. And when I think about what we have done historically through our global customer reach, as well as the breadth of technology we bring, I think we're one of the ones that are best positioned to capitalize on that and also making sure we scale it. And that's one of the things that, you know, Our OEM customers, and certainly other people, still have some challenges. How do they scale electric vehicle? And we basically view we get to help them do that. So that's the breadth we have. You see it in some of the global OEMs that are going more platform versus individual model. And they're some of the customers that we have very good relationships with and design wins with that we're going to help them solve that problem. And then we can also take it like we do with the rest of our connector portfolio into other areas. to make sure that we bring productivity to the electric vehicle as well, while getting our margin.

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Sujal Shah
Vice President of Investor Relations

Okay, thank you, Joe. Looks like there's no further questions, so thank you for participating in the call this morning. If you have any other questions, please contact Investor Relations at TE. Thank you. Thank you, everybody.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, your conference will be made available for replay beginning at 10.30 a.m. Eastern today, January 29, 2020, on the investor relations portion of TE Connectivity's website. That will conclude your conference for today. You may now disconnect.

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