Terex Corporation

Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call

10/28/2022

spk08: welcome to the terex third quarter 2022 earnings conference call a copy of the press release and presentation slides are posted on our investor relations website at investors.terex.com in addition the replay and slide presentation will be available on our website i would like to take this time to introduce paratosh mizra who has joined terex as head of investor relations paratosh is looking forward to working with you his contact information can be found on the Tariffs Investor Relations website in our Q3 earnings release. We are joined by John Garrison, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, and Julie Beck, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Their prepared remarks will be followed by Q&A. Please turn to slide two of the presentation, which reflects our safe harbor statement. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements which are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP information and performance measures we believe are useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP and performance measures can be found in the conference call materials. Please turn to slide three, and I'll turn it over to John Garrison.
spk05: Thank you, John, and good morning. I'd like to welcome everyone to our earnings call and appreciate your interest in CARES. I would like to begin by thanking all Terex team members for their efforts in this challenging global operating environment with inflationary pressures, production disruptions, and COVID impacts. Terex team members have worked tirelessly to improve our performance for our customers, dealers, and shareholders. We are proud of all Terex team members who are keeping themselves and others safe. I would like to thank our team members around the world for their continued commitment to our zero harm safety culture and Terrax way values. Safety remains the top priority of the company, driven by Think Safe, Work Safe, Home Safe.
spk02: Please turn to slide four to review our strong financial results.
spk05: The team delivered solid financial performance for the quarter, which Julie will cover later in her remarks. As a result of the team's continued strong execution in the third quarter and our backlog, We are raising full-year EPS outlook to a range of $4 to $4.20 on sales of approximately $4.3 billion.
spk02: Please turn to slide five.
spk05: Terex participates in attractive end markets that are supported by favorable macro trends, and we have industry-leading brands and the capacity to support long-term growth. Our MP segment is a diversified and consistent high-performing portfolio of businesses. MP's brands have leading market positions with excellent end-market product and geographic diversification. Importantly, these businesses are less cyclical in nature. The overall business continues to benefit from strong equipment utilization rates and dealers looking to replenish their inventory and rental fleets. MP's global demand remains strong. demonstrated by a total backlog of $1.2 billion, up 14% year-over-year. Environmental and recycling growth are driving demand for Ecotech and CBI products. The MP team is taking existing product designs and modified them to service the fast-growing environmental and waste recycling markets with a focus on construction and demolition waste. The Power Screen and Finley brands are benefiting from strong, global aggregate demand. We have leading market positions with our mobile crushing and screening products and anticipate tailwinds from increased spending on global infrastructure investments. MP-SAN market diversification is a strength.
spk02: Markets continue to grow and provide demand for our leading MP brands.
spk05: MP-SAN markets are also strong, demonstrated by a total backlog of $2.7 billion up 44% year-over-year. AWP is experiencing healthy customer environments as fleets age and customers have high utilization rates. Globally, increased adoption of aerial work platforms continues to improve labor efficiency and job site safety. Construction, infrastructure, and industrial applications are driving demand for Genie solutions. Applications for Genie products include data centers, warehouses, and manufacturing facilities. Our utilities business will benefit from the electric grid multi-year infrastructure spending ramping up in 2023.
spk02: The business has robust demand as customers look to reserve 2024 production slots. Please turn to slide six.
spk05: Consolidating Q3 year-to-date bookings remain at healthy levels and we're the second highest booking rate in recent history. Elevator customer fleet ages and historic low dealer inventory levels continue to support robust demand. Utilities bookings remain very strong. Overall, our outlook is supportive, but total backlog position that is up 33% versus the prior year. As we move into 2023, we continue to anticipate the supply chain will be the constraint and not customer demand. Turning to slide seven for an update on our strategic operational priorities. Our execute, innovate, and grow strategy will continue to strengthen our operations and allow the company to capitalize on strong demand in our end markets. Company-wide investments in new product development and continued deployment of digital, customer, and dealer solutions will help to deliver long-term growth. Genie is a leader in electrification and recently shipped its first scissor lift with our new lithium ion battery option. This example of electrifying our product offering helps customers reduce their carbon footprint and lifecycle maintenance costs. In the coming slides, I will highlight how our innovative products are being used to address societal challenges.
spk02: We continue to increase our pipeline for inorganic growth
spk05: We are focused on specialized equipment and materials processing, utilities, parts and service, and investments in technology that advance our product offerings. In the quarter, we expanded the capabilities of our growing environmental business in the MP segment with the acquisition of Zen Robotics, a company that designs and creates robots that pick, sort, and recycle waste materials. These robots add additional functionality and technology to our Terex recycling system's offerings for more efficient, accurate, and profitable recycling. This investment advances our MP strategy to make the circular economy a reality by turning global waste into clean, raw materials.
spk02: Turning to slide eight. Material processing mobile screens are versatile machines capable of screening and separating a wide variety of materials.
spk05: In this recent application, the PowerScreen Warrior 1200 screen is being used to clean various landfills in urban centers of India, enabling future land development. Historically, waste in India was not segregated at the source and is comprised of construction, demolition, and municipal solid waste. A single stream can separate material into three streams by processing 500 to 600 tons of waste per day. More importantly, a mobile machine can work directly on site and eliminate the re-handling and transportation of material, thereby reducing the carbon footprint and operating costs. Turning to slide nine, at Terex, we are proud to build a product that can support the relief and rebuilding efforts to restore communities and the lives of people impacted by unfortunate disasters. Our thoughts are with those impacted by the devastation of Hurricane Ian and other natural disasters. And Cherokee is committed to providing equipment and supporting the uptime of our machines in the field. Our utility trucks are operated day and night to restore the power grid. MP Environmental Equipment processes biomass and C&D waste to open infrastructure and provide cleanup. And GE Equipment supports the rebuilding and the inspection of civil, commercial, and residential infrastructure.
spk02: Our equipment in action demonstrates our company purpose to help improve the lives of people around the world. Please turn to slide 10.
spk05: Our environmental, social, and governance programs deliver stakeholder value. We continue to progress on our ESG journey with leadership from our board of directors and executive leadership team. During each quarterly investor call, we will feature one of the pillars of our ESG strategy. This quarter, we are highlighting environmental stewardship. We are proud to be uniquely positioned to positively impact the environment by innovating environmentally friendly product solutions. Our customers want battery electric and fuel electric products. Approximately 60% of MTE and more than 70% of Genie products have electric or hybrid options. Recent investments in biotech and Aculon are accelerating our delivery of efficient, sustainable product solutions to our customers. Customers rely on our products to support the production, development, and maintenance of renewable energy solutions. Our materials processing segment offers an extensive range of product solutions to help improve the environment and contribute to the circular economy of our business in an environmental-friendly way. and are targeting a 15% reduction in both greenhouse gas and energy intensity by 2024. Our environmental roadmaps provide the structure for each TARICS team member to reduce hazards, exposures, adhere to the law, and proactively improve processes to benefit the environment.
spk02: Please turn to slide 11. Geopolitical issues continue to cause disruption and significant cost increases.
spk05: We have taken and are in the process of implementing actions in the EU to mitigate the impact of natural gas shortages. China COVID policies continue to create some disruption to the global supply chain that our teams have had to overcome. The operations team continues to battle part shortages and late part deliveries and are working with suppliers to reduce cost increases. Finally, our commercial teams are communicating with customers the need for price increases as we seek to offset the inflation we all face. We recognize and thank our team members for their contributions. In this dynamic environment, our team members are demonstrating resiliency and flexibility to increase production deliveries for our customers to overcome these global challenges. With that, let me turn it over to Julie.
spk11: Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. Let's take a look at our third quarter financial performance found on slide 12. we demonstrated solid execution in a dynamic environment, including significant supply chain challenges and continued inflation. Sales of $1.1 billion were up 13% year over year on higher volume and improved price realization necessary to mitigate rising costs. Sales in constant currency were up 21% as foreign currency translation negatively impacted sales by $78 million or approximately 8% in the quarter as the Euro and British Pound weakened against the dollar. Gross margins increased by 320 basis points in the quarter as volume, pricing, favorable mix, and cost-out initiatives helped to offset cost increases and the negative impact of foreign exchange rates. The year-over-year gross margin increase was in both our segments with steady sequential improvement in AWP. MP continued to effectively overcome cost increases with pricing action. SG&A was in line with expectations, but up over the prior year as a result of inflation, incremental spend due to acquisitions, and prudent investments in technology and new product development. SG&A was 10.4% of sales and decreased by 10 basis points from the prior year with business investment offset by continued strict expense management. Income from operations of $121 million was up 63% year over year. We were pleased to report an operating margin of 10.8%, up 330 basis points compared to the prior year, and up 120 basis points sequentially. Our incremental margins were 37% compared to the prior year, and 39% from the second quarter. Current quarter operating profit includes restructuring charges of $1 million in AWP associated with our Oklahoma City facilities. Interest in other expense of $13 million was comparable with Q3 of 2021. The third quarter global effective tax rate was approximately 24%. The higher tax rate is primarily due to increased tax on the geographic distribution of income, partially offset by lower U.S. tax on foreign income. Third quarter earnings per share of $1.20 increased 79% representing a 53 cent improvement over last year. This strong performance driven by volume, price, and discipline cost control also reflects an unfavorable earnings per share impact of 14 cents from foreign exchange translation. Our return on invested capital of 19% significantly exceeded our cost of capital as we continue to invest in the business and return cash to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. Free cash flow for the quarter of $53 million demonstrated continued sequential quarterly improvement in results. I will discuss free cash flow later in more detail. Let's look at our segment results, starting with our materials processing segment found on slide 13. MP sales of $458 million increased 9% compared to the third quarter of 2021 with healthy demand for our products across multiple businesses. On a foreign exchange neutral basis, sales were up 20%. The business ended the quarter with a total backlog of $1.2 billion, up 14% from a year ago. The strong backlog level supports our sales outlook and is approximately three times historical norms. In these challenging markets, MP increased their operating profit to 14.6% and continued their excellent operational execution. MP has been able to demonstrate strong performance in this inflationary environment with a 25% incremental margin over the prior year. On slide 14, see our aerial work platform segment financial results. AWP had an excellent quarter with sales of $663 million, up 16% compared to the prior year on price utilization and higher demand. On a foreign exchange neutral basis, sales increased 22%. Total backlog at quarter end was $2.7 billion, up 44% from the prior year. Both G&E and utilities have taken multiple price actions over the course of 2021 and 2022 to address inflationary cost pressures. In addition, both businesses have been battling park shortages and straining their growth. AWP delivered operating margins of 9.6% in the quarter, up 350 basis points from last year, and up 190 basis points sequentially from the second quarter of 2022. This year-over-year and sequential improvement was a result of higher sales volume, favorable mix, cost reduction initiatives, strict expense management, and disciplined pricing action. Included in AWP earnings for the quarter was a reclassification from corporate and other of $5.2 million related to prior period transactional foreign exchange losses. Absent this charge, Q3 operating margins were 10.4%. Please see slide 15 for an overview of our disciplined capital allocation strategy. Free cash flow for the quarter was $53 million, consistent with our sequential improvement goals, but below our expectations as inventory levels remain high in the third quarter. Hospital inventory in the third quarter was $63 million, consistent with the second quarter. Now let me detail our capital deployment in the quarter. We continue to invest in our business with capital expenditures, acquisitions, and technology investments of $74 million. A large portion of our capital expenditures is related to our Monterey, Mexico facility, which remains on schedule and budget. We had $42 million of investments primarily associated with ProWall and Aculon announced in August. Returning tax to shareholders is an important element of our disciplined capital allocation strategy. The company continued its quarterly dividend per share of 13 cents, an 8.3% increase over the prior year. We also repurchased $13 million of shares in the quarter, given our operating performance and long-term growth prospects, we believe Terex shares are an attractive investment. We have $47 million remaining on our share repurchase program. The company's strong balance sheet has allowed us to return approximately $120 million of cash to shareholders year-to-date. We have significantly delevered over the past four years and strengthened our balance sheet. Outstanding growth debt has been reduced by $349 million since the third quarter of 2019, a 30% decrease, and $67 million since the third quarter of 2021, or a 7.5% decrease. We have no near-term maturity until 2024, and 72% of our debt is at a fixed rate of 5% until the end of the decade. Our net leverage remains low at 1.4 times, which is well below our 2.5 times target through the cycle. We have ample liquidity of $658 million. The company is in an excellent position to run and grow the business. Now turning to slide 16 and our full year outlook. Thanks to the strong execution of our team members and our robust backlog, we are raising our 2022 outlook to the upper end of our prior range. We now expect earnings per share of $4 to $4.20. This outlook incorporates an additional unfavorable 5 cents per share due to foreign exchange from our prior outlook. Overall, we anticipate a full year negative FX impact of approximately 45 cents per share versus the prior year. Supply chain challenges, inflation pressures, geopolitical uncertainty, and volatile foreign currency markets continue. and our team has successfully navigated these challenges for three quarters of 2022. We expect continued strong execution for the remainder of the year. Our strong backlog supports our sales outlook, which we have now increased to approximately $4.3 billion. Sales are not a function of demand, but rather the ability of the supply chain to deliver components. We have the internal capacity to produce more, which we have demonstrated in the past. For the full year, our sales growth is based on improved price execution of approximately 10%, volume growth of 7%, partially offset by unfavorable foreign exchange of 6%. SG&A cost management has been excellent, and we maintain our full year outlook of 10.6% of sales. Our operating margin outlook has been updated to approximately 9.5%, which was at the upper end of our prior range. We estimate a share count of approximately $69.5 million based on repurchase activities in the current year. We are reaffirming our full year effective tax rate of 20%. While we expect sequential free cash flow improvement in the fourth quarter, we now expect full year free cash flow of approximately $125 million. This is primarily a result of higher inventory levels due to the supply chain disruption and negative foreign exchange. Corporate and other has been reduced to $73 million. We expect our incremental margins in the fourth quarter to be above our 25% target. Turning to the segment outlook. Based upon MP's successful mitigation of persistent input costs, supply chain challenges, and strong performance to date, we expect net sales of approximately $1.9 billion, with an operating margin range of 15 to 15.3%. Supply chain challenges continue to be disruptive in the AWP segment. However, the team has made progress on delivery, and we expect net sales of approximately $2.4 billion. Incorporating the team's cost-out and expense management initiatives We are estimating a full-year operating margin of approximately 8%. This segment has been negatively impacted by the strengthening of the U.S. dollar to the euro and the British pound. We continue to expect to be price-cost neutral for the full year. We are pleased to raise our earnings per share outlook to range of $4 to $4.20. And with that, I will turn it back to you, John.
spk05: Thanks, Julie. Turn to slide 17 to conclude my prepared remarks. Terex is well positioned for growth to deliver long-term value for our stakeholders because we have great businesses, strong brands, and strong market positions upon which we can grow the company. We participate in strong end markets supporting our growth, including infrastructure, electrification, and environmental. We will continue to invest in new products and manufacturing capacity along with strategic and organic growth. We will continue to execute our discipline capital allocation strategy, and we have demonstrated resiliency and adaptability in an increasingly challenging environment. I am confident this will result in Terex being an even stronger company. I would like to announce Tarex will be hosting an Investor Day the morning of December 13th at the New York Stock Exchange. This event will include presentations from the executive team and a question and answer session. We look forward to seeing you then. With that, let me turn it back to John.
spk08: Thanks, John. Please refer to Tarex's Investor Relations website for more information on Investor Day in the coming weeks. As a reminder, during the question and answer session, we ask you to limit your questions to one and a follow-up to ensure we answer as many questions as possible this morning. With that, I would like to open it up for questions. Operator?
spk01: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. Thank you. Our first question comes from Nicole DeBlaze from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Yeah, thanks. Good morning, guys.
spk02: Morning, Nicole.
spk10: Maybe we could just start with the AWP margin guidance. So sticking with the 8% kind of embeds, I think, like 100 basis points of margin degradation in the fourth quarter. I know that typically margins do come down sequentially, but the revenue has obviously been different than the seasonal pattern, too. Is that all FX, or is there something else driving the step down?
spk11: Thanks so much for the question, Nicole. You know, AWP had a terrific Q3 with a 9.6% operating margins. They were up 350 basis points from last year and up 190 basis points sequentially from the second quarter. So the year-over-year sequential improvement was the result of, you know, higher sales volumes, favorable mix, cost reduction activities, and disciplined pricing actions. Included in the AWP earnings for the quarter was a reclass from corporate and others. So it didn't impact tariffs overall at all of $5.2 million related to prior period transactional foreign exchange. And if we exclude that charge, their margins for the third quarter would have been 10.4%. When we go to Q4 and look at this sequentially, the AWP business is impacted by lower sequential sales of about 10% in Q4. as a result of continued anticipated supply chain constraints. We also have lower burden absorption on fewer production days and continued disruption and loss of productivity due to all of the supply chain issues. They also have less favorable geographic and product mix in Q4. And also, the utilities business also continues to be impacted by pot, body, and chassis availability, and that results in lower burden absorption in labor and efficiencies. So overall, the incremental margins were 32% in Q3 for this segment, and we expect higher incrementals in Q4 with our continued focus on achieving price-cost neutrality for the full year.
spk10: Got it. Thanks, Julie. That's really comprehensive. And then maybe just to follow up, if you and John could talk about what you're seeing from a supply chain perspective, if there's
spk05: any signs of you know green shoots or improvement out there or if it's all just really the same versus 2q thanks nicole and i think it's it's more the same we didn't see a preschool improvement nor did we see a preschool uh deterioration um our revenue continues to be a function of the supply chain's ability to meet our forecasted demand you know we've been in this billion to billion one kind of revenue range for some time now and it's proven to be a reasonable assumption We did see some slight improvements statistically on some of the on-time deliveries, but not enough to overcome the day-to-day challenges that we're seeing. As Julie just said, on the AWP side, we have information from our suppliers. We're anticipating they're going to have a little bit more of a challenge than we originally had forecasted, so a modest decline in the revenue associated with the supply chain. Again, from a component standpoint, I don't think it's any different than most industrial companies in terms of what you're seeing. Electronic components, engines have been a challenge for us on hydraulic components. And again, the teams are really doing a great job overcoming this on a day-to-day basis to produce and get products out. And I think the last indicator, Nicole, we keep talking about hospital inventory, which is relatively absurd being a manufacturer. But if we look at our hospital inventory, you know, at the end of the second quarter, we're at about $63 million. And at the end of the third quarter, we're about $63 million. Now, Epson flows from a timing standpoint. But net-net, I think that's a reasonable indication of it hasn't gotten appreciably worse, but it clearly has not gotten appreciably better as well. And the teams continue, you know, on a day-to-day basis to really battle it to get product out the door for our customers.
spk10: Thanks, John. I'll pass it on. Thank you, Nicole.
spk01: Our next question comes from Stanley Elliott from Stiefel. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk06: Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the question. Quick question. You talked about 10% pricing this year. As we're thinking about a lot of pricing actions over the course of the year, within the backlogs, how should we think about pricing or how should we think about pricing on the businesses into next year as well?
spk05: Thanks, Stan, and you're right. We do have significant backlog going forward, frankly, historical high backlog as we go into 2023. Our backlog, anything that is for delivery in 2023 will be priced at 2023 pricing. Our pricing strategy and philosophy has not changed. That pricing strategy is to offset the inflationary pressures we're seeing, you know, material freight and labor and embed that in our pricing for 2023. So we have significant orders into 2023, and we're pricing those orders at anticipated inflation rates that we're expecting as we go forward. We do have the opportunity, and obviously we don't want to exercise this, but we do have the opportunity to adjust that pricing if needed as we get into 2023. Again, 2023 orders at 2023 pricing with the anticipated inflation levels that we're expecting as we go forward.
spk06: Perfect. Switching gears, on the MP business, there's so many ways you guys can expand this. A lot of the products are actually fairly similar. Do you need additional capacity? How are you seeing it from a footprint standpoint, or maybe this is something you'd all choose to expand more via M&A?
spk05: Thanks. We have done both. We've expanded capacity organically. We've expanded our facility in India. We've expanded our facilities in Northern Ireland. So we have done organic growth. We've also grown capacity in this business via acquisition. Our first acquisition of Jiading in China, where we made an acquisition of a manufacturing facility that produced similar types of products to what we produce, and so we were able to get the physical facility as well as the labor force. That gave us the opportunity to have production in China for the China market. So that was an example of where we expanded capacity via M&A. We also did an acquisition of Steelwell, which was a vertical integration key manufacturer for us that was going to be on the market. And that expanded our capacity for major fabrications that gives us the growth that we need to meet the growth aspect. So there's two examples there of where we used M&A to expand capacity. and examples of where we've invested we have a new site in campsie northern ireland that's a that's an expansion as well so you'll see us do both organic expansion and inorganic growth and then finally the pro all acquisition which closed here in in the quarter pro all gives us expands our market in cement mixture trucks we have a leadership position in front discharge We don't have a position in volumetric mixtures. They're a leader in that space. And so that expanded our serviceable market with that product line extension. Similar to what we had done at the end of last year, San, with our MBS acquisition, that was a product line extension as well that gave us a product line that we didn't have that we could use their existing distribution for our existing product and expand, use our distribution channel to put that product. And we're seeing substantial growth in both those platforms as we go forward. And then finally, we announced the acquisition, smaller acquisition of Zen Robotics. And that's really a technology play that gives us the opportunity to expand some of our environmental services business. where we can take a comprehensive solution for our customers, put it together with some of our existing technology, marry it with the Zen Robotics technology, and offer a complete solution to customers in the recycling industry. So again, a move for us, a smaller move for us on Zen Robotics, but again, on that theme of technology investments that enhance what we currently offer, are offering, or expand into other areas. And I think you're going to see more of that as we expand our, you know, we've got the balance sheet, we've got the, you know, the cash flow, and we're building our pipeline along those dimensions. We do think there's going to be an opportunity to grow our MP, not just organically, but also through inorganic investments.
spk11: that we'll always be disciplined in any M&A activity. We want to make sure that any acquisition is accretive after the first year of purchase accounting adjustments, and also that all of our investments will be able to out-earn its cost of capital in the first several years of ownership. So we'll be disciplined, and we think that there's a bright future and lots of opportunity in the MP segment going forward.
spk06: Perfect. Thanks so much for the color. Congratulations, and best of luck.
spk11: Thanks, Sam.
spk01: Our next question comes from David Razzo from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk12: Hi. Thank you for the question, taking my question. Regarding the organic growth in Europe, I mean, obviously, the backlog is looking very strong. It seems like you have momentum into 23. It seems like you're implying 23 at the current time, viewed as an up year. The stock's obviously not fully believing that. And I'm just curious when I think about what could change quickly as any cancellations in the backlog. It doesn't sound like the North American market has much of an appetite for canceling anything anytime soon. But I'm just curious when I think about where you could see it, where you think Europe, right? And seeing Europe up 36% organic this quarter, 13% last quarter, 26% in the first quarter. I mean, it feels like such strength there that I'm just curious when you look at the backlog, just kind of, scaling the risk of where you might eventually get some cancellations to change the landscape a little bit about 23, your revenues are about 20 to 25% Europe. Is the backlog particularly skewed below that or above that? Just trying to scale a little bit on if we did see some of the orders in the backlog in Europe get canceled, what kind of risk profile is that given what's in the backlog?
spk05: Thanks for the question, David. It's not appreciably different than the revenue split in terms of the backlog. And as you indicated, we have historically high backlog. Our company usually doesn't operate with the level of backlog that we have in terms of overall level of backlog. And if we look at the two respective businesses, on the MP side, at $1.2 billion, that's three times the historical norms of backlog in that business. We are not seeing, David, we're not seeing cancellations or push outs anywhere right now in the backlog. If we look at our crushing and screening business, you know, there's an example of why, you know, we posted our three quarters year to date bookings rate. Why did we do that? Because it's pretty lumpy quarter to quarter. We have the second highest, you know, rate that we've had in both segments going forward. Our crushing and screening business, David, we didn't have our order book open for several weeks in the quarter because we were still slotting the orders that we had previously come in. And so we'll open that order book as we go forward. In terms of Europe, you're correct, David. As we look, we see tremendous strength across both businesses in North America, good strength across Asia. We still have reasonable strength in booking activity in Europe. If we look at our material handlers business and Fuchs business, we did see a slowdown in order activity in our Fuchs business, specifically in Germany. We'll see what that looks like now as we go into the fourth quarter, but we did see a slight deterioration there. But again, it was made up with stronger activity in North America. On the environmental side within MP, because that's a new business, David, our backlogs are up 50% year over year in that business. And again, that is more global. We're seeing good strength everywhere. Asia, when we look at our pick and carry business down in Australia, continue to see strong growth there. And then on our RTs and tower business, David, on the tower side, we did see good order activity, but slower order activity in Europe, specifically in Germany, But again, that was made up with strength in the North American market. And then if we looked at Genie, and I'm sure we'll talk more about this, but tremendous strength in the North American market. And in Western Europe, we'd say it's stable backlog at healthy levels. And again, despite the challenges that we're seeing in Europe. And in terms of the other markets, the only market, David, that we've actually seen a year-over-year decline across the business, was our genie business in china that was the result of the market activity and the market slowdown but also because we we chose not to participate in a couple bids because of the pricing activity there we didn't think it was conducive and so we took that product and and we exported it to other markets uh you know around the world so if we take a step back right now david we know there's economic uncertainty out there we've all been in this business for a long time But when you look at the level of backlog that we have and the fact that we're not seeing cancellations, we're not seeing pushouts, and frankly, the conversations we're having with customers are they need more equipment and they need it faster, not less equipment later. And so that's the dynamic that we're in right now around the world. And you're right to highlight, Europe is where we're closely watching Europe. But again, it's reasonably stable. given the economic conditions that are going on there right now. And I'd say that's a pleasant surprise, but clearly we're watching it.
spk13: Yeah, no doubt. I'm sorry. Sorry, go ahead, Julie.
spk11: No, I was just going to say that we'll begin to see. We haven't seen yet the spend from the three major bills passed in the U.S. None of that activity has come through yet, and we would anticipate that coming through in 2023. So very strong.
spk12: Yeah. I mean, you would think China next year, year over year, given the way you approach the market this year, it was obviously also struggling with COVID lockdowns, that China being better, you would think is base case magnitude we can debate. I don't think people are as nervous about North America. It's just that 20 to 25% Europe. I mean, even if it's down 20%, right, that's a 4% drag on the whole company. And The rest of the geography should be able to make up for it. But the idea that Europe is still running this strong organically is probably one of the more pleasant surprises so far. And you're saying the orders for 23, the kind of new take rate, so to speak, is actually still fairly stable. It's not down materially.
spk05: It hasn't yet, and I guess that's the pleasant surprise right now. But, again, as I indicated, across a couple of the businesses, specifically in Germany, we did see some slowdown, but, again, made up in other areas. Thank you very much.
spk12: I appreciate it. Okay, thank you so much.
spk02: Thank you, David.
spk01: Our next question comes from Stephen Fisher from UPS. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk13: Thanks. Good morning. Just looking at the consensus for 2023, if your revenue run rate doesn't improve much from here, it looks like you might need around another 100 basis points of margin improvement to hit the consensus operating income estimates for next year. I guess to what extent do you see paths to drive that 100 basis points of margin improvement? Is carryover pricing enough to deliver that? Can you get it from technology features, cost management?
spk05: how do you how do you think about that yeah thank you and you know it's obviously early in the year um and but as we look to 2023 given the level of backlog that we have we are anticipating growth in both segments given that strength uh in the backlog now for 2023 we need to see improvement in the supply chain to capture uh that that and i believe we will begin to see modest improvement. We need to see slight to modest improvement in the supply chain to be able to capture the potential benefit we see there. As I mentioned earlier in my comments, our 2023 backlog is priced at 2023 expected levels. And so our pricing strategy remains. We're going to price to offset material labor and cost inflation that we're seeing so that we're at least price-cost neutral. We were behind the price curve for the first half of this year. We've caught up in the second half of next year, and we would anticipate remaining at least price-cost neutral as we progress into 2023. And again, with the strong backlog, anticipate growth. We do need to see supply chain improvement to capture that growth. And with the backlog pricing we have, we think we can maintain that price-cost neutrality going forward.
spk13: Okay, that's helpful. And I guess, how much is the FX headwind for 2023 looking like at this point, assuming there would be no changes from here? And it sounds like you're a little hesitant to kind of give margin specifics for next year, but I guess, how do you see the prospects for achieving double digit margins in AWP next year at this point?
spk11: I would say that, you know, it's early for the outlook. You know, we certainly have seen, you know, this year we've absorbed 45 cents of negative, you know, exchange rate from 2020, from 2021. And so, if it would continue, you know, we really are seeing, we had 14 cents in, you know, that further deterioration from 2021 into 2022 in the third quarter. And we're anticipating another $0.05 deterioration in Q4. So if we took our Q4, you know, we would use for our planning purposes at this point in time, you know, rates that would be consistent with the end of the Q4. So I guess that's the best I can answer that at this point.
spk02: Okay. Very helpful. Thank you.
spk01: Our next question comes from Seth Weber from Wells Fargo. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk04: Hey, guys. Good morning. I guess maybe – good morning. Maybe just first a clarification, Julie. Does the fourth quarter 80 by P margin include that – does that reclassification continue in the fourth quarter, or is that kind of a one-time catch-up situation?
spk11: That was just an entry that we made in Q3 to reclass – some transactional foreign exchange from corporate and other to the AWP segment. And so that will not continue. The foreign exchange environment, though, continues, and so they'll be impacted by current FX rates.
spk04: Okay, but just that was a one-time.
spk11: That was a one-time, yes.
spk04: Right, okay. So, Julie, I think you made the comments about some – some adjustments and changes you're making in the european manufacturing uh you know foot environment just to kind of react to the current situation from energy access to energy and uh costs and things like that i was wondering if you could just expand on that a little bit how your you know how terrorists is sort of trying to manage the inflationary uh energy environment in europe and just sort of the more challenging manufacturing uh environment in europe in general thanks
spk05: Yeah. And so overall, obviously, energy costs have increased dramatically across the European continent. The good news for us is that energy, although a component of our cost, is not a significant component of our cost. One of the actions we mentioned in our prepared remarks was around natural gas. Germany. So in Germany, we have a plant or food plant in Germany. So there what we had to do is install propane tanks. so that we have the availability of propane if they limit natural gas supplies only to go to power generation. and not to other industrial applications. And so we need that for our well. We need that for our paint systems and the like. So there's an example where we had to put in place a backup system, if you will, for the use of natural gas. But that was specific to Germany. It's not necessarily needed in our UK facilities nor in our facilities in Italy. At least it's not indicated at this time. So that's just an example of a precaution that we took in the event natural gas was going to be curtailed and only go to the power side and not for other industrial applications.
spk04: Okay. So are you anticipating kind of just a very modest price increase, manufacturing, you know, kind of cost of doing business in Europe, and so nothing material, it sounds like, from a cost perspective?
spk05: We're seeing high levels, just like everybody. We're seeing high levels of inflation across. We've anticipated what we believe those inflationary aspects are going to be across all of our commodities, and we've embedded that into our 2023 prices. Okay.
spk04: No, I was just talking about on the energy side. Yeah. Okay.
spk11: Then maybe just... Just a little bit of clarity that the energy price, energy is about... you know, 1% of our cost of goods sold. So, you know, it's a big number, you know, but it's a small percentage relatively of our overall cost. Okay?
spk04: Got it. That's helpful. Thanks, Julie. And then just maybe back on North America AWP, can you just talk to the source of the orders, you know, anything unusual from a IRC versus national customer service?
spk05: or anything that you're that you'd call out there just from who you know where the orders are coming from in North America thanks yeah so you know again very strong backlog at 2.7 billion up 44% year-over-year in the AWP segment principally a lot of that is driven by the North American market seeing continued strength in the North American market and across customer segments so Our backlog is not historically any significantly different than historical past backlogs. The market is quite strong, as you've seen, for the public companies that have reported. They're seeing really strong time utilization on the equipment. And on the Genie side, we're in a replacement cycle, and that replacement cycle has been curtailed. because of the industry's ability to meet our customers' needs. So we're going to have the tailwind of the replacement cycle in the Gini business. And then, as Julie said, these significant fiscal investments in infrastructure, the GIF Act, the Inflation Adjustment Act, all that is also providing a fairly strong tailwind for the next several years. We'll begin to see that in 2023. as as we go forward so you know the backlog is is strong the underlying economic environment looks to be quite strong uh in north america and we're seeing it you know historical patterns in terms of irc's and in national accounts um and again customers are looking for more equipment and they're looking for more equipment faster those are the dialogues that we're having and so we're right in the midst you know even with that backlog at 2.7 billion We're right in the midst of our arts national account negotiations that are ongoing, and so we'll book some of that here in the fourth quarter. Some may extend a little bit into the first quarter, but that's to come as we go forward. So pretty healthy activity and no appreciable change thus far in terms of what we're seeing between IRCs and national accounts and strength across the segments.
spk01: Our next question comes from Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk02: Yes, hi. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. Good morning, Jerry.
spk07: Jana, I'm wondering if you could talk about, you know, you folks have managed the supply chain pretty well this year, but, you know, as an industry, price-cost has moved in the wrong direction over the past two years. You know, in the past, the AWP had comparable prices sales levels, you know, you folks would be putting up 12 to 15% margins. And I'm wondering, as we think about the price increases that you have in 23, how much progress can we make towards getting back to those levels? And, you know, obviously not a Terex issue, an industry issue, but I'm wondering from Terex AWP standpoint, how you're thinking about that?
spk05: Yep. Thanks, Jerry. As we think about that over the longer term, those margin percentages that you talked about on the G&E side to get back to those levels, it's going to require investments like our investment in our Monterey, Mexico facility. That's an important investment for us that will help improve the global competitiveness of the business, both from a cost and a capacity standpoint. And again, that project is progressing. So over time, Monterey will become a more important facility for us. So as we look out over the next couple of years into that 24-25 timeframe, we think that will add about 200 basis points of margin to the business as we go forward. The team's done a really good job being very aggressive and taking costs out of the business, making it more resilient. Over the last couple of years, we've restructured, if you will, took $90 million or so of cost out of the business. The team will continue to be focused on that. And I guess the third piece is, if you go back in time, Jerry, when Jeannie delivered those types of margins, the other thing that was there was a very, very different exchange rate environment than we have today. That's back when the euro was at $135 to $140. versus where it is today and you know we we import a lot of genie product into into um into europe and um you know at these exchange rates that that is a headwind for for that business as we go forward um and so obviously we'll continue to work that but i think the team's doing a good job we're driving margin improvement we obviously recognize we have to continue to drive competitiveness and margin improvement in that business going forward With our product development efforts, our cost-out initiatives, our pricing discipline, I'm confident the team will continue to drive margin improvement in that business.
spk07: Super. And, you know, can we just shift gears with the telematics fleets that you have now built out in North America and Europe? You know, you folks have better real-time market information than in prior cycles. I'm wondering if you can just talk about the trends that you've seen in operating hours on a year-over-year basis in both markets, if you don't mind?
spk05: Yeah, high utilization. Our data replicates what we're hearing from at least the publicly traded rental companies, and I can say through the IRCs as well, is continued high utilization, both hour utilization and time use. And we're seeing that in the North American market. So it tracks what we're seeing, and it tracks why customers are looking for more equipment because they're operating at incredibly high operating levels given the shortage of equipment out there. So utilization continues to be strong.
spk02: And in Europe, John? Similar. Year over year, similar in Europe. Super. Thank you.
spk01: Our next question comes from Steven Volkman from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk03: Hi. Thanks. Maybe just a couple of cleanups here. I'm curious about what you're thinking around hospital inventory to exit the year. Is it sort of stay at this level? And what else is driving the increase in working capital, Julie?
spk11: Yeah, so Steve, thanks for the question. Really, the increase in working capital is inventory. We had a consistent hospital inventory, as John mentioned, $63 million from second quarter to third quarter. And inventory levels remain elevated due to all that disruption. And because we have a strong backlog, so we're still bringing in inventory to support that backlog. Inventories and transit are higher due to extended shipping times and changing in our shipping patterns. So as we talked earlier on the call, we're exporting from China into Europe and to Asia, I mean, into Latin America and Asia. And so those lead times are longer and stuff is on the water. And so we didn't lower our free cash flow forecast for the year. primarily because of inventory as well as some deterioration again from foreign exchange rates that are shifting again from where we were a quarter ago. So those are the – but we had a sequential pre-cash flow of $53 million in Q3, and we expect sequential improvement in Q4 and positive pre-cash flow.
spk03: Okay, great. And then – Maybe more broadly, I don't even know if you can even answer this, John, but I'm guessing there's been some probably fairly significant productivity penalties for operating in this kind of environment. And so just in the spirit of trying to think about sort of what normalized margins could be, is it possible to ballpark sort of the penalty on productivity that may go away as all this supply chain stuff eventually clears up?
spk05: You're absolutely spot on. I won't necessarily quantify it, but because of the disruption, we as manufacturers normally drive year-over-year productivity improvements. We have not had year-over-year productivity improvements, even on the higher volume, because of the disruption that we've experienced. So as we go forward, get to a little bit more steady state, less disruption, then the teams will deliver that year-over-year productivity improvement. But you're absolutely right. That has been a headwind. as a result of the disruption we've been facing. And if, you know, if that disruption wasn't there, we would be driving, you know, the teams are disciplined, we would be driving year-over-year productivity improvements, and we're not given this environment right now.
spk03: Okay, and maybe in the same vein, I'm guessing that utilities business margin is probably significantly below normal. Is it possible to get any color on that?
spk11: Yeah, the utilities business has really been impacted by all of that supply chain disruption, you know, the bodies and chassis. And so, the productivity there has been, you know, has been very negatively impacted. So, the utilities margins are lower in the quarter than the overall AWP segment.
spk02: All right. Okay. All right. Thank you.
spk01: And our last question will come from Jamie Cook from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk09: Hi, good morning. Nice quarter. Most of my questions have been asked. I guess just, you know, as you're thinking about taking orders for, you know, just because your backlog's so extended in AWP, can you just talk to what your assumptions are on HRC as you're, you know, taking orders already well into next year?
spk11: Okay. Thanks, Jamie, for the question. And so we do have our hedging program. And so in the hedging program's goal is is to assure cost certainty. So we're hedging about 60% of our requirements for HRC steel in the U.S. And so we had our assumption for the second half of the year is about $10.50 and for Q4 at $9.50.
spk09: Okay, thank you.
spk01: We are out of time for questions today. I would like to turn the call back over to John Garrison for closing remarks.
spk05: Thank you, operator. If you have any additional questions, please follow up with Julie, John, or Paretash. And then also, thank you for your interest in Terex. And I will invite you again to our investor day on the morning of December 13th at the New York Stock Exchange, where you have the opportunity to engage with management and see how we're going to drive this business going forward to deliver profitable growth, profitable long-term growth for the business. And again, stay safe, stay healthy, and thank you for your interest in Terex. Operator, please disconnect the call.
spk01: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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