This conference call transcript was computer generated and almost certianly contains errors. This transcript is provided for information purposes only.EarningsCall, LLC makes no representation about the accuracy of the aforementioned transcript, and you are cautioned not to place undue reliance on the information provided by the transcript.
spk10: A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Neal Frohnapple, Vice President of Investor Relations.
spk15: Neal Frohnapple Good morning and welcome to the TAREX first quarter 2024 earnings conference call. A copy of the press release and presentation slides are posted on our Investor Relations at investors.terex.com. In addition, the replay and slide presentation will be available on our website. We are joined by Simon Meester, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Julie Beck, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Their prepared remarks will be followed by Q&A. Please turn to slide two of the presentation, which reflects our safe harbor statement. Today's conference call contains forward-looking statements, which are subject to risks that could cause actual results to be materially different from those expressed or implied. These risks are described in greater detail in the earrings materials and in our reports filed with the FCC. In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial information we believe is useful in evaluating the company's operating performance. Reconciliations for these non-GAAP measures can be found in the conference call materials. Please turn to slide four, and I'll turn it over to Simon Meester.
spk02: Thanks, Neil, and good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to our earnings call and appreciate your interest in TARICS. I'd like to begin by thanking all TARICS team members for delivering outstanding performance in Q1. The team executed really well and delivered strong results to start the year with. We increased sales by 5% and expanded operating margins by 20 base points from last year. The company also delivered earnings per share of $1.60 in the quarter and achieved a return on invested capital of more than 27%. These outstanding results demonstrate our ability to execute as the team continues to perform at a high level. Additionally, we're raising our 2024 sales and profit outlook and now expect earnings per share in the range of $6.95 to $7.35. During the quarter, we also continue to advance our strategic initiatives to drive long-term shareholder value. We launched several new products across the portfolio and continue to make good progress ramping up our new facility in Monterey. This new facility continues to absorb more of Genie's global production mix and is expected to improve the segment's through-cycle margin performance. Please turn to slide five. Customer demand remains healthy across most of our businesses, supported by favorable end-market conditions. Our Q1 backlog of $3.1 billion is significantly above historical levels and gives us confidence in the sealed outlook for the remainder of the year. As expected, the backlog continues to moderate from peak levels, which reflects more normal lead times, improving supply chain, and continued efforts by our team members to improve overall throughput. Consolidated bookings in Q1 of more than $1 billion were down from last year which reflects a return to more normal seasonal order patterns combined with softer demand in Europe. In the MP segment, backlog is still above historical norms and bookings increase sequentially from the fourth and the third quarter. Additionally, our AWP backlog now covers the 2024 outlook with our utilities business actively taking orders for 2025. Overall, based on customer feedback, our backlog coverage, our bookings, and leading indicators, we feel confident about raising our 2024 outlook.
spk03: Please turn to slide six.
spk02: The overall market outlook remains strong for many of our primary end markets, especially in North America, which represents over 60% of total company sales. In fact, we saw double-digit sales growth in North America in Q1. Our businesses remain well-positioned to benefit from higher U.S. government spending to modernize infrastructure over the coming years with an increasing number of projects continuing to be announced. Additionally, construction spending on manufacturing is up more than 30% year-over-year, driven by onshoring and megaprojects related to semiconductor manufacturing and EV battery projects. These favorable end-market trends, combined with replacement cycle tailwinds and high equipment utilization rates, are beneficial for our aerodrome business. Additionally, the increasing adoption of our products in emerging markets, such as India, is another positive. The utilities market is expected to continue to grow, supported by investment in grid upgrades and expansion required for zero carbon and amplified electrification needs by power generation for future AI applications. In the US, power-related spending has been increasing at double-digit rates. Our utilities business is benefiting from this growing demand and was up double digits in the first quarter as the team is working hard to overcome ongoing shortages in the supply chain. Strength in US infrastructure General construction and residential end markets will continue to benefit MPs, aggregates, and concrete businesses. We expect these tailwinds to offset softness in businesses with higher European exposure. We expect MPs' environmental business to continue its growth, driven by increasing demand for waste recycling. And our fruits business is focused on expanding into new geographies, and new products to help offset the near-term demand softness. Overall, we see continued strength in the infrastructure, utilities, manufacturing, and recycling markets, and remain positive on the 2024 market outlook for our portfolio. Please turn to slide seven. I now want to take a step back and provide a few reasons on why I'm confident in TEREC's growth trajectory over the coming years. diverse product portfolio that provides differentiated value to our customers at all points of the project lifecycle. Notably, our equipment is utilized by customers across various applications, from foundation to building, repair, maintenance, and the eventual recycling of materials for reuse. We also remain committed to developing new products to address our customers' evolving needs and maximize their return on investments. In fact, the innovate part of our strategy continues to generate incremental growth for the company. For example, approximately 20% of our annual sales are from new products introduced in the last three years. This is a testament to our team members' collaboration with our customers to provide innovative solutions to support development across the globe. Please turn to slide eight. CERCS also remains well-positioned to capitalize on megatrends and emerging technologies that will favorably impact our end markets over the coming years. In total, around 80% of our addressable market is aligned with stimulus from megatrends and from increasing government investment and incentives. Our market-leading businesses all benefit to varying degrees by more investments in infrastructure, digitalization, waste recycling, and electrification. For example, the MP team has leading positions in global crushing and screening markets that benefit from the growth of onsite demolition and infrastructure projects in general, and the associated demand for aggregates. Keep in mind that aggregates represents around 50% of segment sales. MP also serves customers across all project lifecycle phases, including growing demand for environmental and waste recycling solutions. Our utilities business is well positioned to capitalize on investment required to upgrade the U.S. electrical grid to support the accelerating demand as the industrial world continues to move to the use of more electrical power. And our Genie products are benefiting from demand from infrastructure projects, data centers, manufacturing on-shoring, and investments in the entertainment sector. Overall, Terrax's diverse product portfolio positions us very well for 2024 and beyond. Let's turn to slide nine. It has been an exciting first few months as CEO of Terrax. And I would like to provide a few more thoughts on our strategic priorities as we look ahead to the future. Our execute, innovate, grow strategy has built strong momentum over the last several years. We now have a diversified portfolio of market-leading businesses that are generating higher levels of performance through the cycle. In fact, we're on track to achieve more than $7 of earnings per share and greater than $300 million of free cash flow for the second consecutive year. I'm confident that Terrax has significant upside for many years to come. Looking ahead, I strongly believe we can create even more value for shareholders by accelerating the growth element of our strategy over the coming years. And it starts with our strong balance sheet and cash flow generation, which provides plenty of firepower pursued opportunities that will drive sustainable long-term value with respect to organic growth we're focused on increasing product vitality and targeting opportunities to drive incremental growth across the portfolio the team is also moving with urgency to capitalize on the mega trends and emerging technologies that I highlighted earlier and finally We continue to grow the M&A pipeline to identify opportunities that are financially attractive, broaden our market reach, and strengthen our portfolio. Keeping in mind, we continue to evaluate potential inorganic action against other alternative uses of capital, which is a good position to be in. Overall, I'm excited for the opportunities that lie ahead, and I'm confident we will elevate Terex to new levels of performance. And with that, let me turn it over to Julie.
spk06: Thanks, Simon, and good morning, everyone. Let's take a look at our strong first quarter financial performance found on slide 10. We posted sales of $1.3 billion, up about 5% from last year, reflecting strong demand for our products across multiple businesses. Geographically, we delivered significant growth in North America, while Europe declined against last year's very strong first quarter. Gross margins of 23% increased by 40 basis points over prior year on improved manufacturing throughput and disciplined price cost management. SG&A expense increased over the prior year due primarily to higher compensation expense, although structural costs came in largely as expected. SG&A as a percent of sales was 10.8% up slightly from last year. Note that SG&A includes $4 million of discrete financial call-outs due to accelerated vesting and severance charges. Excluding these charges, SG&A came in at 10.4% of sales, better than last year. Income from operations was $158 million with an operating margin of 12.2%, a 20 basis improvement over prior year. Operating income also includes the $4 million impact of vesting and severance charges. Interest expense was relatively consistent with the previous year, while other expenses increased $7 million from the prior year, primarily due to unfavorable mark-to-market adjustments. The first quarter global effective tax rate was 20.5% compared to 17.5% in the first quarter of 2023. First quarter earnings per share of $1.60 was consistent with last year. As expected, with a return to more seasonal patterns, free cash flow for the first quarter was negative as increasing operating profits were more than offset by working capital added to support the sales outlook. In Q1, we continue to carry a higher level of inventory to support increased Q2 and Q3 sales volumes as well as our genie production moves. Let's take a look at our segment results. Please turn to slide 11. The MP team has gotten off to another good start in 2024 and is executing well despite more challenging macro conditions for a few of its businesses. Before I go into more details on the quarter, let me first provide more perspective on the segment from a high level. We have nearly doubled the size of the MP segment over the last seven years, and expanded operating margins by almost 700 basis points during this period. Today, MP consistently generates mid-teens operating margins and represents about half of our total annual operating profit. And this segment remains well on track to achieve the investor day targets we established for 2027. In fact, delivering on the long-term sales target of $2.7 billion, represents an incremental dollar per share of earnings power for the total company relative to our 2024 outlook. For the first quarter, MP sales declined by 6% to $520 million compared to the exceptional first quarter of 2023 due primarily to software demand in Europe, partially offset by growth for aggregate. MPs recorded operating profit of $72 million was down $13 million due to the impact of lower sales volume, unfavorable product mix, and product liability reserves. Although MP's operating margins were down 150 basis points from last year, they were 50 basis points better than expected. MP ended the quarter with backlog of $712 million, still above historical norms, while our bookings increased 7% sequentially from the fourth quarter. Keep in mind that the NP business is shorter cycle and continues to transition back to more traditional book-to-bill dynamics as supply chains continue to improve, which impacted the comparison for bookings relative to the prior year. Turn to slide 12. AWP delivered excellent performance in the first quarter with sales of $773 million, up nearly 13% from last year, primarily reflecting higher demand as well as improved supply chain and manufacturing throughput. AWP reported quarterly operating profits of $107 million, an increase of 29% over the prior year. The increase was driven by strong operational execution on the higher volumes, improved supply chain performance, and disciplined price-cost management. Operating margins expanded by 180 basis points with an incremental margin of 28%, reflecting strong performance overall by the team. And finally, I would note that AWP backlog is strong at $2.4 billion, which is more than two times the historical norm. Please see slide 13. Terex has a strong balance sheet with ample liquidity. Our net leverage remains low at 0.5 times. well below our two and a half times target through the cycle, providing us plenty of flexibility as we look ahead. And our outstanding bonds are at an attractive fixed rate of 5% until the end of the decade. We are reaffirming our 2024 free cash flow outlook range of $325 to $375 million. As you can see on this slide, Terex is on track to generate more than $1.1 billion of free cash flow over this five-year period. This cash generation has allowed us to strengthen the balance sheet and invest for profitable growth, all while returning significant cash to shareholders. We're planning for capital expenditures this year of approximately $145 million, or about 2.7% of sales at the expected midpoint, with the largest investment related to our moderate facility. Note that we would expect CapEx to take a step down next year and to be a benefit to free cash flow conversion in 2025. We reported a return on invested capital of 27.6%, up 370 basis points year-over-year. Paris is in an excellent position to continue advancing our strategic growth initiative while returning capital to shareholders. Now turning to slide 14 and our full-year outlook. It's important to realize we are operating in a complex environment and many macroeconomic variables and geopolitical uncertainties that results could change negatively or positively. With that said, this outlook represents our best estimate as of today. Following the strong start to the year, we are raising both our sales and earnings per share outlook for 2024. We are increasing our earnings per share outlook to the range of $6.95 to $7.35, up from the previous outlook of $6.85 to $7.25. We are also raising our sales outlook to a range of $5.2 to $5.4 billion, up $100 million compared to the prior outlook's midpoint. Our sales outlook incorporates healthier customer demand and improved operational throughput. With that said, the outlook reflects strong demand in North America and plans for continued softness in Europe over the balance of the year. We expect the first half sales to be slightly higher than the second half, with the second and third quarter sales higher than the first and fourth quarter as we return to more seasonal customer delivery patterns. We anticipate full-year operating margins in a range of 12.8 to 13.1%, consistent with our prior outlook and solidly above full year 2023 performance. The margin expansion reflects strong operational execution and the impact from the higher sales outlook. We're also driving ongoing cost reduction activities to offset softer demand in Europe and continued inflation. At the midpoint of the outlook range, the implied incremental margin range for the full year is about 30%. From a modeling perspective, we do want to emphasize the strong second quarter performance in 2023 when making your year-over-year comparison for the remainder of the year. We expect corporate and other expenses to be around $25 million in the second quarter and then approximately $20 million per quarter in the second half of the year. We now expect interest and other expense of $65 million for the full year, higher than the prior outlook to primarily reflect the financial call-out in the first quarter. The outlook for the rest of the below-line items are largely unchanged from our previous outlook. And as I highlighted earlier, we continue to estimate free cash flow in the range of $325 to $375 million. Let's review our segment outlooks. We expect MP sales to be $2.2 to $2.3 billion for the full year with margins in the range of 15.6 to 15.9%, both consistent with the previous outlook. For the second quarter, sales and margins are expected to step up from Q1 levels. Profitability is expected to steadily increase through the balance of the year. For AWP, We now expect 2024 sales of $3 to $3.1 billion, up $100 million from our previous outlook. We are slightly raising our operating margin outlook to a range of 13.5% to 13.8% for the full year, representing upwards of 100 basis points of expansion over 2023. We expect 2022 sales to be up from the prior year, while margins are anticipated to be around 150 basis points lower compared to last year's very strong second quarter. Note that margins will be impacted by moderating efficiencies and unfavorable mix, partially offset by continued cost-out activity. We anticipate the quarterly cadence of our AWP sales to be closer to historical patterns, with the highest sales in Q2 and Q3, which will also drive higher profitability for those quarters. Overall, our increased bullier outlook reflects our confidence that 2024 will be another outstanding year for Terex. And with that said, I will turn it back to you, Simon.
spk02: Thanks, Julie. Turning to slide 15. In summary, the Terex team delivered excellent results to start the year, and we now expect even stronger performance for 2024. of industry-leading businesses that are generating higher levels of performance through the cycle. We're also well positioned to continue to benefit from megatrends and emerging new technologies like electrification, digitalization, and AI. The team remains focused on operational execution to drive greater efficiencies and high returns on invested capital. We have a strong balance sheet and generate significant cash flow that will continue to fuel our profitable growth strategy and return of capital to shareholders. And we have a global, experienced, diverse, and highly engaged team that is committed to continue to create value for our customers and our shareholders over the coming years.
spk15: And with that, let me turn it back to Neil. Thanks, Simon. As a reminder, during the question and answer session, we ask you to limit your questions to one and a follow-up to ensure we answer as many questions as possible this morning. With that, I would like to open it up for questions.
spk03: Operator?
spk10: Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. Our first question comes from Jamie Cook from Truist Securities.
spk04: Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hey, good morning. Congrats on a nice quarter. I guess, Julie, my first question on materials processing, you noted margins came in 50 basis points ahead of expectations, but you're not changing your margin guidance for the year. I'm just also surprised the sales guidance was reiterated when the markets seem weaker, in particular with the European exposure within materials processing. So if you could just help me on the MP guy. I guess, and Simon, now that I guess you're, you know, close to five months in, can you just talk to what you're, I know your strategy sort of accelerate growth. You know, can you talk to what you're seeing, you know, on the M&A sort of pipeline, whether you think there's an opportunity to do deals in 2024, and then just sort of the size of the deals that you're looking at and where you'd be interested. Thank you.
spk06: Okay, so Jamie, I guess I'll start with the MP outlook. So the MP business had a better quarter than anticipated. They were about 60 basis points ahead in operating margin from what we had anticipated. They had some favorable geographic mix. We had more North America exposure. They were also impacted in the quarter about 50 basis points for that product liability charge that I mentioned. We do anticipate that some of the European markets, in particular, our material handling business, that's a German business, tied to scrap, is challenged going forward. But we see upside in our environmental businesses and our concrete business and aggregates continues to perform well. And from a margin perspective, you know, we're expecting our margins to improve, you know, sequentially as we go throughout the year, and we expect sales to take a step up from Q1 levels as well. So overall, you know, we're expecting another nice year from the NP business.
spk02: Yeah, Jamie, good morning. Thanks for the question. Yeah, so it's been, yeah, four months. It's been very exciting so far. Obviously, looking back over the last couple of years, I don't think there's any denying that we have built very strong operational momentum with our execute and innovate and grow strategy. We truly transformed the company. We have a strong portfolio that we feel very good about. So I would say my first priority is to make sure we maintain that positive momentum that we're currently on. But there's no doubt that we now are in a position where we can also focus on, now that we have that strong operational momentum on how we can accelerate growth. And to your point, obviously, we look at inorganic options. We're also looking at organic options. We're a $5 billion business in a $34 billion addressable market. There's still a lot of white space to go after organically. And with goods we turn on investment capital, that is on the table for us just as much as inorganic action. But when it comes to inorganic action, you know, for the reasons I just laid out, we're not really in a hurry. We didn't set ourselves a target. We didn't set ourselves a timeline because we are in such a strong place and because we have strong demand for our existing businesses for the next couple of years. We're going to take our time for this, but we do have an active, pipeline of opportunities. We're looking for anything inside and outside our current addressable markets that would be attractive, that would strengthen our portfolio, that would make us stronger, would widen our moat, but obviously needs to be financially attractive and ultimately, you know, further strengthen our future earnings profile. But again, I can't emphasize this enough. It all needs to rank favorably versus All the other actions that we have available to us, like share buybacks, like investing in our current businesses and dividends, and so that's how we force rank those opportunities.
spk03: But anything is on the table. Okay, thank you. Thanks, Jamie.
spk10: Our next question comes from Stan Elliott from Stifel. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk12: Hey, good morning, Simon. Good morning, Julie. Thank you for the question. I guess piggybacking on that, you know, with leverage, you guys have a kind of a two and a half kind of net target through the cycle. You're probably going to be close to debt free by the end of the year. How large of a deal would you want to pursue if something were to pop up? And, you know, if that doesn't materialize this year, then maybe kind of help us again with opportunities for buyback and things like that.
spk06: Yeah, well, Stanley, we'll evaluate, you know, we're evaluating all sources if we have a wide pipeline. So we look at smaller things and maybe some larger things as well. And we're not prescriptive. You know, I think we're just trying to follow the criteria that Simon mentioned before. When we think about share repurchases, certainly, you know, we've repurchased $1.6 billion of shares over the last, you know, seven or eight years. Last year, we returned over 28% of our free cash flow to shareholders, and we have $130 million remaining on our current authorization for share repurchases. So, again, we'll continue to evaluate share repurchases and inorganic opportunities along the way and make the decision that provides the greatest return.
spk12: And I guess, secondly, you know, the comments, I mean, you had about 20% new products the past three years. This comes at a time when you guys are generating very strong margins, returns. and making accelerated CapEx, that combination typically does not happen. What are you guys doing differently? Is it a voice to customer? Is it kind of moving into some kind of niche white space? But it sounds like the new product piece is probably exceeding expectations.
spk02: Yeah, it definitely is. And at the end of the day, you know, we're a product company. That's what we do. That's what excites us. That's what makes us go in every single day. You know, we're excited to bring new products to the market. We, you know, we deliver, you know, most of our products go to businesses. They're looking for return on investment. So whatever improves, you know, return on investment for our customers and makes our customers more successful. But yeah, you know, in MP, we've been expanding our hybrid and our plug power alternatives. We announced a Cummins partnership to collaborate on hydrogen power. We've expanded our recycling and environmental solutions offerings like Green Tech and the new slow speed shredder that I talked about in the presentation. And it's really all the combinations you can think of, new products in existing markets, existing products in new markets, We're exploring it all. We have opportunities to take existing products into new markets. We have opportunities to take new products in existing markets. On the Genie side, Genie has been a leader in the development of electric and hybrid products for some time. With the access capacity in 2018, even before the regulations changed, Genie already brought that to market. But today, with their hybrid booms, they've really And then lastly, on the utility side, introduced the first all-electric bucket truck combined with an EPTO on an all-electric chassis that was two years, if I remember correctly. Big opportunity going forward there. And so, yeah, we're playing the MPD card really hard because at the end of the day, that's, I think, what makes our company what it is and gives us competitive advantage that it has.
spk12: Perfect. Thanks so much. Congrats and best of luck.
spk10: Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from Steven Fisher from UBS. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk11: Thanks. Good morning. You mentioned, Julie, a benefit from price versus cost management. Can you maybe just give us some quantification of that in the quarter? How did it compare to your expectations and what do you have embedded in there for the rest of the year on price versus cost?
spk06: Yes, thanks for the question, Steve. You know, in the first quarter, the team just really performed well, particularly in AWP. You know, they were able to, we saw improvement in the supply chain. We were able to bring in the labor that we needed in Washington State as well as in Monterey, which, you know, was terrific. And we were able to, you know, to ship more than we expected. And of course, You know, that helps with the overall margin. When we talk about pricing and price cost, you know, we always talk about, you know, our price cost, you know, being price cost neutral. And we're anticipating, you know, pricing for the year in about that low mid-single digits range. So that's where we're at from price cost. We continue to monitor price cost. And, you know, as you know, the NP business is very dynamic. in their pricing as they're quoting virtually every piece of equipment.
spk11: That's helpful. And then just you mentioned, Simon, I think the utilities orders for 2025. Can you just talk a little bit more about how the discussions around 2025 have evolved in utilities and also more broadly for the company?
spk02: Yeah, really, we're not there definitely for MP because MP is returning more to kind of a book-to-bill cadence, typically with about three or four months forward visibility. Tarials, mostly covered for 2024. You know, we could take some more bookings probably in 2024 if we would find the labor material for it. And we expect to start discussions for 2025, typically as we do in Q3 and Q4. But then, yeah, utilities is already actively taking orders for 2025. Just a lot of demand. We're still struggling with a little bit of throughput because of bodies and chassis, but overall that business just has a lot of a lot of upside for the next couple of years. Everything equal, obviously the mega projects alone, but grid upgrades that need to happen, grid expansion. And I spoke about AI, and I know it's a little bit of a buzzword, but thinking about AI applications that will make their way into the market, They're all, you know, very power intense. Power intensity means grid upgrades, means grid expansion, and they're exactly in our wheelhouse. So that's why, you know, we're very excited about that business going forward.
spk11: Terrific. Thank you.
spk10: Our next question comes from David Rasso from Evercore ISI. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk14: Yeah, hi, thank you. Following up on the order conversation, I think clearly 24 people are going to try to figure out why can't we do it maybe a little better on the margins given what's already on visibility with the backlog. Then you mentioned some of the manufacturing challenges that could arise, maybe parts of Europe within the AWP. But can you help us understand sort of what's in the backlog today when it comes to mix, product type, which channel you're selling to? just so we can better understand particularly why the margins should be lower the rest of the year versus the first quarter. I know you said the second quarter, the number you provided will be better than the first quarter, but I'm talking for the rest of the year, the implied margins are below the first quarter, which is a little surprising. So again, is there something in the mix or just conservatism on some manufacturing issues? And then on the 25 order conversation, Anything you can help us with on mix? The end markets you just described, are those more big booms, mid-sized booms? Just trying to get a sense of tellies versus aerials. Just trying to set up a little bit why the margins lower the rest of the year. And also, any thoughts around 25 for mix? Thank you.
spk06: So when we think about the operating margins for the year, we're expecting improvements you know, from year over year, and we're expecting a 30% incremental margin. So, you know, we see margins improving over last year, and we see margins improving, you know, sequentially in Q2, Q3, and then, of course, they come down in Q4 because we have, you know, due to seasonal patterns and lower production days in the fourth quarter. But we're anticipating higher margins and a 30% overall incremental for the year.
spk02: Yeah, I would just say no big material swings in the backlog that should be accounted for off the top of my head. But yeah, we're just going back to more normal kind of seasonal behaviorals where our Q2 and Q3 are going to be from a top line and probably going to be our stronger quarters. Q4, because of what Julie said, the last working day is going to be traditionally probably one of our below average quarters. So that will just make its way in terms of incrementals down to the bottom line. And then Q2, we just have a little bit of headwinds because we're wrapping up in Monterey. And that's how we account.
spk14: We see sequential improvement, David, with the exception of... For AWP specifically, the rest of the year is implied at 13.6% margins. We just did 13.9%. I know the fourth quarter seasonally can be lower than the first quarter, but I'm just making sure we understand this. Look, understandable. Europe, all the risks that are out there. I'm just making sure there isn't something we're missing where it's logical without just trying to be a little cautious, which I appreciate. why would the rest of the year margins be below the first quarter? Because that's what the implied numbers are. I just want to make sure we're not surprised a quarter or two from now with a big mix issue where the first quarter had a unique price cost that we're giving back in the rest of the year. I just want to make sure we understand the base case here.
spk06: Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I mean, what we would say, David, is that we would have Q2, as Simon mentioned, would be, and we mentioned in our remarks, would be impacted by more inefficiencies in Monterey. But really, the first quarter would be a stronger quarter than the fourth quarter, I guess, and that would be the only reason. There's nothing else other than some further startup inefficiencies, and that's about it. But overall, again... You know, for that AWP, you know, they're going to have, you know, incremental margins, you know, approaching at 35% for the year.
spk03: Yeah.
spk14: Okay. I just want to make sure. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
spk06: Thanks, David.
spk10: Our next question comes from Steve Lokeman from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk08: Thanks, guys. Just a couple cleanups from me. Julie, have you changed at all your view of the sort of total startup cost impact on 2024?
spk06: We would say that we guided to that $15 to $20 million number. It came in a bit favorable in the first quarter. I would say it was probably about $5 million impact. We would expect that to increase and be higher in the second quarter, as we mentioned. And then we would expect, you know, that to go down through the rest of the year, you know, more first half weighted than second half.
spk08: But for the full year, kind of that same range that you've been talking about?
spk06: Yes, exactly.
spk08: Okay. And then I had a question on the utilities business as well, because if I remember correctly, that had some very kind of specific and I think significant margin in headwinds through the COVID interruptions and supply chain and so forth. So I'm just curious if you can sort of bring us up to date. How are margins in that utility business now? Is there still sort of meaningful upside as we go forward? Just have to think about that.
spk02: Yeah, we had a tough Q3 last year. And since when we kind of gradually the teams continue to improve, we're actually very pleased with how the team executed in the first quarter.
spk06: Yeah, the third quarter, as Simon mentioned, they had a supplier quality issue, which impacted them significantly, and we recovered from that. And so we're expecting some improvement in that business as well. That business still does have some more supply chain disruption due to bodies and chassis, but we are expecting improvement in that business as we go as well. And we're, as Simon mentioned earlier, we think there's that business that has a tremendous amount of potential, and we like that business going forward.
spk02: It's still functional supply, though. That's the challenge, is that, and there's some big swings, you know, like custom bodies and truck chassis. We thought we were out of the woods in truck chassis, and it kind of came back.
spk03: So it's really, there's some uncontrollables there as well. Okay, thank you.
spk10: Our next question comes from Nicole DeBlaise from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk05: Yeah, thanks. Good morning. Good morning, Nicole. Maybe just first, you raised the EPS guidance for the full year but left free cash flow as is. Is it just early in the year to be raising the free cash commitment? Is it more working capital investment? Can we just discuss that?
spk06: Yeah, I mean, we kept the range it is early in the year, Nicole. I agree with that. You know, we are carrying, we do expect inventory levels to come down through the year and improve working capital management is incorporated in that. You know, as we mentioned that, you know, we do carry some more inventory. In the first quarter, we build inventory to support those second and third quarter higher sales volumes. And we have higher inventory right now for the production moves. But we are expecting that to come down and networking capital to be a source of cash this year, and we expect cash flow to gradually improve throughout the year and be more traditional with our seasonality with the use of free cash flow in the first quarter and improving subsequently throughout the year.
spk05: Got it. Thanks, Julie. And then I guess, can we just hear a little bit more about what you guys are seeing in Europe? This has been interesting. definitely a trend that we've heard from multiple companies. So it's not particularly surprising. But just would you say things are like getting worse, just kind of bouncing along the bottom? It would be really helpful if you could characterize what you're seeing there. Thank you.
spk02: Yeah, for us, so the bright spot in that region, if you include the broader region, is for us in the Middle East. But the parts where it's really affecting us, it's Germany, UK, and it's France. And I guess technically both the UK and Germany are hinting towards, I think, a technical recession. I haven't seen their latest GDP numbers, but if Germany and the UK would recover, and we think the UK might recover a little before Germany does because Germany is overly dependent on exports, but our outlook currently confirms that it doesn't get worse in the UK and in Germany. But those are the two markets that are really hurting us the most.
spk05: Thank you. I'll pass it on. Thank you.
spk10: Our next question comes from Tammy Zakaria from JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open. Hi. Good morning.
spk07: Thank you so much. So could you comment on the inventory in the channel for MP. I think I remember you expected some destocking in the first quarter. Is that largely done?
spk03: Destocking.
spk02: Sorry. Thank you, Tammy. So yeah, that is largely done. Our dealer inventories are where they need to be. So it's an interesting dynamic because obviously You know, when backlogs come down, and in the case of Fuchs where demand came down because of scrap prices, we have to do some adjustments in supply. That's largely done. That's behind us now. And so from a dealer inventory and pipeline standpoint, we think we are where we need to be going forward.
spk07: Got it. Okay. That's all from me. Thank you.
spk03: Thanks, Tammy. Thanks, Tammy.
spk10: Our next question comes from Jerry Revich from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk03: Yes, hi. Good morning, everyone.
spk13: Good morning. Simon, in your prepared remarks, you spoke about the company's opportunity in leveraging digital and technology advancement. Can you just expand on that? What are the opportunities with your telematics offerings and Elsewhere, what exactly, if you wouldn't mind fleshing out for us, what exactly you have in mind in terms of the most significant opportunities for you folks given the existing installed base of telematics and any other developments you're focused on?
spk02: Yeah, thank you. So I see external opportunities for us and I see internal opportunities for us. you know, external besides just, you know, what makes its way into our products today. I talked about hybrid. I talked about, you know, first all-electric bucket truck, EPTO, and so on and so forth. But we also made some longer-term technology investments in Axilon and Eptronic, which we both announced last year and I believe late 2022. You know, we believe we're very excited about our Axilon investment because that will give us, control over an important EV supply chain for us. And then Actronic, we're excited because, you know, that's kind of the next generation of robotics, you know, and we can start applying that in some of the applications in not just aerials, but in other areas of Terex as well. So the long-term technology investment is just as exciting as what we're currently applying. But then internally, you know, we see AI as just that next – The next opportunity to just drive efficiency, drive productivity, drive real-time decision-making, the way we balance supply and demand with AI, we can make that a real-time process. So we're excited on how we can leverage both external and internally. We mostly see it as opportunities for us.
spk13: Okay, thank you. And then lastly, can I ask you to please comment on what you're seeing in terms of the telematics data for booms in North America in terms of where your utilization stands? It looks like used equipment inventories are rising off of a really low base, but I'm wondering what the utilization data shows, if you'd be willing to share it, please.
spk02: Yeah, no, it's a tight correlation between what our customers are telling us and what we're seeing from the data. And when I mentioned leading indicators in one of my opening remarks, this is one of the leading indicators that obviously we look at. We look at telematics because we see what the utilization of the fleet is. And all of our customers are reporting high utilization, and that's what telematics is kind of confirming. I'm talking North America. In Europe, we see some lower utilization again. confirmed by what our customers are telling us. So the telematics data correlates with the high use that we're seeing in North America.
spk03: Thank you.
spk10: Our next question comes from Steve Barger from KeyBank Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk09: Thanks. I just want to look forward a little bit to accelerating profitable growth on slide nine. When the team modeled out opportunities in megatrends, emerging technologies, and outgrowth initiatives, what's the range of organic growth you envision in the next three to five years?
spk02: For now, we're still sticking to our investors' day targets, Steve. We have a commitment of $6 billion. We're ahead of that trajectory. We're comfortably ahead on both the top and the bottom on $6 billion, and 13% to 14% operating margin is the commitment we made. We made that commitment five quarters ago. It's a five-year commitment. We're five quarters in. We don't think that we should start talking about raising that margin. kind of commitment because we would like to have a few more quarters under our belt before we reassess where we want to be in 2027 and beyond.
spk09: Yeah, that was really the motivation for the question. You only need a 3.5% CAGR if you hit the high end of your guidance range this year to get to $6 billion. So I guess if you have to frame it up from a growth perspective, is that what you expect or is $6 billion too low? Or when do you think you might update that?
spk02: Well, everything else equal. I mean, obviously, you know, you could argue that we're probably in a comfortable place to beat that expectation. But, you know, there are more variables at play. And as I said, we would like to get a few more quarters under our belt before we start looking at changing our longer-term outlook.
spk09: Okay. And then with Terex being a product company, as you noted, when you think about megaprojects like semi-fabs, EV plants, renewables, is there room to differentiate with a new purpose-built machine for specific markets, or is it really more about modifying existing machines and then just, you know, I don't want to downplay it, but quality and delivery to take share?
spk02: No, yes to both. So we're applying existing products. For example, our green tech technology, offering. We're basically applying existing products to a new segment, which is the vegetation management business. And so we're leveraging our existing portfolio in new markets. And the other way around, we're also developing, based on certain platforms that we already have, We're expanding our recycling portfolio and embedding new technologies in our crushers and shutters and repurpose them to broaden our reach in the recycling space. So we're applying technology and we're leveraging the existing portfolio. And that's kind of what I believe is the strength of EMP. vertical is that we have so much white space just to leverage the existing portfolio. And I think the MP business has demonstrated just that in the last seven, eight years. They've booked double-digit growth margins consistently every year for the last eight, nine years. And one of the things that they did was just finding new use cases for their portfolio.
spk03: Thanks. Thanks, Steve.
spk10: Our last question today will come from Angel Castillo from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is open.
spk00: Hi, thanks for taking my question. So just going back to the first quarter performance and you noted kind of stronger throughput, a number of kind of points here I just wanted to unpack a little bit. Could you just give us an update on just kind of hospital inventories and where that's kind of at? It seems like some of this might have improved just throughout the quarter. If you could give us a little bit more color along with that on the supply chain. And then just last point on this, as you get better throughput and stronger deliveries in the first quarter, generally it sounds like what we're hearing from some of the public rental companies is that they're really taking deliveries on a more kind of normal cadence. So was this more driven by independence in the first quarter, or what are you seeing from a customer mix perspective in terms of who's taking deliveries of kind of the stronger throughput here?
spk06: Okay, Angel, there's a lot there, so let me help. If you think about our customer mix, our customer mix in general stays relatively consistent over time. There may be puts and takes in any one given quarter, but I wouldn't say that customer mix had anything to do with who took delivery in the first quarter, if you will, or deliveries. I would say that that we are returning to the more seasonal patterns where the large national accounts want things in Q2 and Q3. We're moving back to that. We're in the past when we were so constrained, they were taking the equipment when we could make it. So we're returning to those more normal delivery patterns as supply chain improves. And then when you asked about margins, In the first quarter, you know, what allowed us, you know, yes, you know, that supply chain improved. We were able to get labor in our Washington State locations as well as our Monterey facility, which certainly that more manufacturing throughput, of course, helped margins in the quarter as well. So that was all very helpful. We still have a hospital inventory. You know, we're still dealing with, you know, with, you know, issues that, you know, were parts issues, but, you know, they vary. And, of course, supply chain has much improved over what it was a year ago.
spk00: Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then I wanted to go back to one of the earlier questions around the 2027 targets. Maybe I was just kind of doing the math a little different, but I was just looking at the CAGR implied between 2023 end rate in 2027, and it seems to be closer to kind of a 4% top line CAGR. And I think the guide for this year at the midpoint puts it at 2024 CAGR or 2024 growth of kind of 3%. So as we think about, you know, kind of getting to that 4% CAGR for 2027 delivering on the targets, you mentioned you feel you're comfortably ahead of the range. So Given 2024 seems to be a little bit below that despite pretty strong backlogs and pretty good visibility, should we anticipate that 2025, 2026, and 2027 accelerate for some underlying factors organically, or is that 1% difference generally what you think about the M&A that you're trying to work back toward to get to 2027?
spk06: So, Angelina, we had, you know, significant growth in 2024. You know, 16%, 17%, you know, we had really strong growth in sales in 2023. And so, you know, so that, you know, puts us, you know, ahead of the target. But when we think about going out to 2027, you know, it's still early to upgrade, to update those targets. It is. And so, you know, we remain ahead of those and that's just where we are right now.
spk03: Finished it. Thank you.
spk10: We are out of time for questions today. I would like to turn the call back over to Simon Meester for closing remarks.
spk02: Thank you, operator. If you have any additional questions, please follow up with Julie or Neil. And with that, thank you very much for your interest in Terex. Operator, please disconnect the call.
spk10: This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
Disclaimer