TriNet Group, Inc.

Q3 2021 Earnings Conference Call

10/25/2021

spk08: Good day and welcome to the TRINET third quarter 2021 earnings conference call. All participants will be in a listen only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on a touch tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Alex Bauer, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk06: Thank you, Operator. Good afternoon, and welcome to Trinet's 2021 Third Quarter Conference Call. Joining me today are Burton M. Goldfield, our President and CEO, and Kelly Tuminelli, our Chief Financial Officer. Our prepared remarks were pre-recorded. Burton will begin with an overview of our third quarter operating performance. Kelly will then review our financial results. We will then open up the call for the Q&A session. Before we begin, please note that today's discussion will include our 2021 fourth quarter and full year guidance and other statements that are not historical in nature, are predictive in nature, or depend upon or refer to future events or conditions, such as our expectations, estimates, predictions, strategies, beliefs, or other statements that might be considered forward-looking. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and assumptions and are inherently subject to risks, uncertainties, and changes in circumstances that are difficult to predict and that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today or in the future. Except as may be required by law, we do not undertake to update any of these statements in light of new information, future events, or otherwise. We encourage you to review our most recent public filings with the SEC, including our 10-K and 10-Q filings, for a more detailed discussion of the risks, uncertainties, and changes in circumstances that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock. In addition, our discussion today will include non-GAAP financial measures, including our forward-looking guidance for adjusted net income per diluted share. For reconciliations of our non-GAAP financial measures to our GAAP financial results, Please see our earnings release, our 10Q filing, or our 10K filing for our third quarter and full year of 2020 reconciliations, respectively, both of which are available on our website or through the SEC website. With that, I will turn the call over to Burton for his opening remarks. Burton?
spk05: Thank you, Alex. Trinet's third quarter operating and financial performance was once again exceptionally strong. This continues a multi-quarter trend which sets us up for a solid performance in the fourth quarter. On today's call, I would like to discuss three important topics. First, I am very pleased with our Q3 financial performance to which I will provide highlights. Next, I will discuss positive factors impacting the PEO construct in general as well as TRINET specifically. The PEO construct is particularly well positioned to address systemic changes to the nature of work due to the pandemic. Additionally, ongoing legal and regulatory challenges impacting SMBs are efficiently supported using this model. And finally, I will highlight our inaugural environmental, social, and governance report released this afternoon. This report provides visibility into the central role ESG plays in Trinet's corporate culture and how we consider the needs of all of our stakeholders. During the third quarter, Trinet delivered a premier HR experience and our customers continue to grow dramatically as they have throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. While the Bureau of Labor and Statistics recorded slowing job growth relative to expectations in the third quarter, TriNet saw our customers add new hires at a rate substantially higher than our forecast. Our operating and financial performance was highlighted by strong professional service revenues growth and strong WSC volume growth. During the third quarter, we grew total revenues 18% year over year to $1.1 billion. Additionally, when we compare our 2021 third quarter total revenues growth to that of the 2019 third quarter total revenues growth, total revenues grew 18%. This comparison highlights the strong underlying performance of Trinet's business throughout the COVID-19 pandemic. Professional service revenues delivered year-over-year growth of 24%. The growth in professional service revenues was attributable to the following items. WSC volume growth, especially in our core white-collar verticals, technology, financial services, and life sciences, and strong growth in PEPM rate. The percentage increase also benefited from a recovery credit program accrual taken in Q3 of 2020, which did not repeat in Q3 2021. Kelly will address these highlights later in greater detail. Third quarter GAAP earnings per share grew 142% year over year to $1.16 per share. I am very pleased with our Q3 earnings performance. We beat our GAAP EPS guidance by 44 cents And when compared to our third quarter of 2019 GAAP EPS, a pre-pandemic quarter, we grew our earnings per share by 49%, again, demonstrating both our overall growth and our growth in profitability throughout the pandemic. During the third quarter, we grew our ending WSE count 10% year over year, to approximately 351,000 WSEs. This also represented a 3% sequential growth versus our second quarter of 2021, demonstrating momentum across our business. This TriNet all-time high ending WSE volume metric was the continuation of recent growth trends. Our customer selection process has resulted in a customer base comprised of dynamic and durable companies. This was led by the technology vertical where we continued to see strong hiring throughout the quarter. Furthermore, our Main Street vertical has finally recovered all of its lost CIE since the onset of the pandemic, indicating further normalization in the broader economy. Finally, sales contributed positively for the second straight quarter. Our new sales growth focuses on our core verticals and is adding to our already strong and amazing customer base. Let's talk for a minute about the PEO industry in general. As we look to the future, the PEO construct is well positioned for continued share growth within the SMB space. Since the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, PEO has played an important dynamic role which has reinforced, for me, our industry's growth potential. At the onset of the pandemic, PEO's aided business owners as together we navigated the economic uncertainty. Our ability to administer HR services from the cloud enabled customers to successfully transition their workforces to fully remote. As the economy slowed, we walked our customers through workforce management, for example, helping them balance furloughs versus layoffs. As policymakers established the PPP loan program, PEOs went to work assisting customers throughout the process. In fact, according to NAPEO, the PEO Industry Association, PEO customers were 71% more likely to have received a PPP loan, which speaks to the industry's ability to help customers source and organize the information required for the PPP application. This is an excellent example of how scale and expertise from a PEO made a significant business impact at that critical moment in the COVID crisis. At a more macro level, the same recent polling by Napio found that the PEO customers are 82% more likely to have their business operations back to normal or better than before the COVID pandemic. As we look to the future and learn how to coexist with COVID-19, new operational complexities have emerged for SMBs, and we as an industry and TriNet specifically are well positioned to assist SMBs navigate these new complexities. Last month, at our second annual TriNet PeopleForce conference, one topic repeatedly discussed was the emergence of hybrid workforces. Hybrid work, defined as employees working part-time on-premise and part-time at home, is being normalized and held as an example of a permanent change in the future of work. For SMBs, this work construct introduces new operating complexities with respect to HR services, tax, and culture. Trinet is well prepared to continue to assist SMBs in the transition to this new way of work with our multi-state HR services. Our focus is to ensure that our multi-state, multi-location customers remain compliant under the different state and local regulatory regimes. This move to hybrid work is spotlighting our services as the SMB market demands more of these services. As employees shift to working from home and the office, Often these locations are not in the same city and sometimes not in the same state. Furthermore, many SMBs are using the pandemic to reconsider their headquarter locations. Each of these new trends introduce tax complexities among other challenges. Taken together, resource-constrained SMBs are facing significant obstacles to remain compliant. Additionally, when the headquarters change, medical plans, rates, and carriers may change because many medical plans are determined by the state in which your headquarters resides. TriNet helps navigate this complexity. By enabling HR access from anywhere, Trinet is working with employers to keep employees connected. Furthermore, through our robust benefits offering, employers can demonstrate their appreciation for their employees. I look forward to the evolution of the U.S. workforce and supporting them as they adapt to this new and incredibly exciting world. Turning to the topic of ESG, we released our first environmental, social, and governance report this afternoon. I have spoken in the past about our efforts to consider the interest of all our stakeholders. Through this report, our stakeholders will see the deep commitment made by TriNet to our work, customers, colleagues, the environment around us, and our shareholders. 2021 is the perfect time for our team to showcase the work we've done. We aim to provide a new level of transparency into how we operate and view our role with respect to all stakeholders in our company. While we are pleased with our progress, we know we have more work to do to reach our ideals as articulated in this report. We view our ESG report as a public report card to establish a benchmark, and we look forward to updating you on our progress against this benchmark. With that, I will now turn the call over to Kelly for a more detailed financial update. Kelly?
spk00: Thank you, Burton. I'll review our third quarter financial results before discussing fourth quarter and full year 2021 guidance. Our third quarter financial performance was strong. WSC volume growth exceeded projections and drove top-line growth. Health performance remained benign, and our operating expenses came in line with expectations, which taken together drove bottom-line outperformance. During the third quarter, total revenues increased 18% year-over-year, outperforming the top end of our guidance range by one point. The outperformance in total revenues was driven by 10% year-over-year growth in ending WSEs and 9% year-over-year growth in average WSEs and continued high health participation by our WSEs. Once again, Year-over-year growth in total revenues included a 5% benefit from last year's accrual for the recovery credit program, which reduced revenues in the third quarter of 2020. This prior year accrual impacted both professional service revenues and insurance service revenues. Professional service revenues in the quarter grew 24% year-over-year. exceeding the top end of our guidance range by four points. This growth was driven by a few factors. First, our year-over-year average volume growth of 9% reflected strong hiring. More than half of it came from our technology vertical. While the volume of hiring has moderated from last quarter, it was much more robust than we had predicted when we updated our third quarter guidance. We also again benefited from retaining our strong customers, but we are seeing this trending more in line with historical levels and anticipate that continuing as we emerge from the pandemic. Second, professional service revenues benefited from an 11% growth in rate. Similar to last quarter, rate growth saw a meaningful contribution from our efforts to achieve a minimum price with our smallest customers to align with the costs to serve those clients. We may benefit from this trend for one or two more quarters. For the third quarter, our insurance cost ratio was 86%, outperforming our forecasted range for the quarter of 89.5% to 91.5%. The outperformance of the insurance cost ratio versus our estimate was largely due to two factors. First, The surge of the COVID Delta variant early in the quarter once again reduced elective procedures, particularly in the Southeast. Second, we benefited from catch-up contributions related to COBRA, which reduced insurance cost ratio by approximately a half a point. Related to our operating expenses, we were roughly in line with guidance, but had some year-over-year shifts in our marketing spend given the timing of PeopleForce in the third quarter this year versus fourth quarter last year. In addition to PeopleForce, we invested in additional branding to support our FinServ preferred product launch and other brand awareness and lead generation going into our busiest selling season, as well as had higher sales commissions. Our third quarter effective tax rate was 25.2%. In the quarter, we saw higher state tax remittances offset by differences arising from employer-related equity compensation. GAAP net income per share increased 142% to $1.16 compared to 48 cents per share in the same quarter last year, exceeding the top end of our guidance by 44 cents. An adjusted net income per share increased 134% to $1.31 compared to 56 cents per share in the same quarter last year, which also exceeded the top end of guidance by 44 cents. So far this year, we have spent $94 million to repurchase approximately 1.2 million shares of stock and have over 264 million of authorization remaining. We also generated 334 million in corporate operating cash flows through the first three quarters of the year as a result of our strong operating performance ending the quarter with $525 million in corporate cash. Overall, performance in the third quarter continued many of the positive trends we saw emerge in the first half, and we are positioned well for the fourth quarter. Now let's turn to our 2021 fourth quarter and full year outlook. I will provide both GAAP and non-GAAP guidance. For the fourth quarter of 2021, we expect total revenues growth of 12% to 14% year-over-year and professional service revenues growth to be in the range of 16% to 20% year-over-year. This guidance builds on our higher base of WSEs and reflects seasonal trends in sales and attrition. In the fourth quarter of last year, we accrued $24 million in total for our 2020 recovery credit program, which reduced both fourth quarter 2020 gap total revenues and professional service revenues by 2%. Regarding our insurance cost ratio, or ICR, we are expecting our fourth quarter ratio to be between 92% and 94%. An ICR of 94% captures a diminishing impact from the COVID-19 Delta variant and a return to more normalized health utilization, while an ICR of 92% contemplates a continuation of the status quo. The overall higher insurance cost ratio range also reflects our normal typical pattern of higher utilization in the fourth quarter as more participants have satisfied their deductible layers and our pooling benefits have reset. We expect fourth quarter GAAP earnings per share to be in the range of $0.17 to $0.40 per share, and we expect fourth quarter adjusted earnings per share to be in the range of $0.36 to $0.60 per share. Regarding our full year 2021 guidance, given three quarters of performance and our better than expected volume, we are raising our full year guidance. We are now forecasting our year-over-year gap revenue growth to be 11% to 12% lifting the bottom end of the range by one percentage point. With the strong growth to date and our fourth quarter outlook, our full year professional service revenues forecast is now for 15 to 16% year over year growth, an increase of one point to the top end of the range. We expect our full year 2021 insurance cost ratio to be in the range of 86.5% to 87%, a one percentage point improvement to the top end of the range as revenues are expected to remain strong while utilization remains subdued relative to historic and expected future experience. With all of these factors taken together, we now expect GAAP EPS to be in the range of $4.20 to $4.43 or up 5 to up 11% year-over-year, the new GAAP EPS range represents an increase to the top end of the range of 40 cents. Adjusted net income per share is now expected to be in the range of $4.88 to $5.12, an increase of 42 cents versus our previous guidance, and representing year-over-year growth of 10 to 15%. With that, I will return the call to Burton for his closing remarks.
spk05: Burton? Thank you, Kelly. As a recap, Q3 was a very positive quarter for our company. We achieved strong growth in WSC volume, professional service revenues, total revenue, PEPM rate, and margin expansion. This continues a multi-quarter trend, which sets us up for a solid performance in the fourth quarter. As we wrap up this call, it is important for me to reiterate how we continue to execute our strategy. We target the right customers in our core verticals. We deliver a premier HR experience. We offer our customers outstanding benefits and we operate with integrity as described in our ESG report. I have always said complexity is our friend. As a result of the pandemic, SMBs are facing more, not less complexity. TriNet is well positioned to capture more market share in the coming months and years to help SMBs address these complexities. Finally, I would like to thank the entire TriNet team for delivering these results. With that, I will now turn it over to the operator. Operator?
spk08: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touchtone phone. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question will come from Tinjin Wong with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
spk03: Thank you, Burton and Kelly. I wanted to ask first on the on the WSE count or on the volume side, obviously great results again there. Just trying to think about that result in all of your comments, Burton, especially around the PEO with the secular growth. So with the change in existing, I know the labor market is hot, especially in tech. And I know you have the recovery credit program going on as well. So I'm just trying to understand how much of this is just hot market versus, you know, something different you're doing from a tech perspective or a servicing perspective? And also just to tack it on, thinking about PEO in general, is there a risk that as some of these tech firms get larger that they may graduate out of the PEO? And same with the higher PPM rate in the down market. Could that also cause an uptick in churn? Just trying to think about how to go beyond the fourth quarter into the midterm in terms of the WC count? Thanks. Sorry, I had a lot there in one question.
spk05: No, thank you, Tingen, and it is a great question. It was an incredible quarter from my standpoint. The customers are thriving in this environment, and your question's a good one. What I am seeing is that the ability to offer the high-end benefits, the 401k, the flex spending accounts, the paperless onboarding, These customers, particularly tech customers, are fighting for the scarce talent that's out there, the programmers, the strategy folks, and we're helping to get them on board. So I was, as I said in my remarks, I am thrilled with the growth of the installed customer base. And I'm also happy with the net new sales. So all in all, in the verticals we are playing in, There is strong demand, I believe, for PEO in general and Trinet specifically.
spk03: Yeah, I know it's been smart to go up to those verticals for sure. I'll ask a quick follow-up then maybe to Kelly on the insurance cost ratio. Just if you don't mind, on the insurance cost ratio, 92% to 94% guidance in the fourth quarter. That's up one to three points over the prior year, but up quite a bit sequentially. I don't think it's ever been up that much sequentially, but I know that Delta and everything else is unusual. So talk to us about the visibility there. Why would that be up so much sequentially versus history?
spk00: Sure, Tenjin. Yeah, sure, Tenjin. Happy to answer that question. Well, one thing I want to just remind you is sort of the pattern we see seasonally. You know, we typically see seasonal weakness in the fourth quarter because people have worked through their planned deductibles and our guidance just reflects that seasonality. We also have our pooling limits on a per-employee or per-member basis that actually reset at the beginning of, or at the end of October. And so really the, I'm sorry, at the beginning of October. So fourth quarter, we would have a reset of all those pooling limits. So anything over $500,000, we will be on the hook until they hit those pooling limits for high-class claimants. I do believe that we'll see a normalization of healthcare utilization. We were definitely under this quarter, and we expect to see that regular normalization, but we don't necessarily contemplate a spike in it. Was that helpful?
spk03: Yep. Gotcha. Gotcha. Thank you. Good results here, guys.
spk10: Hey, thanks. Thanks.
spk09: Our next question will come from Kevin McVeigh with Credit Suisse.
spk08: Please go ahead.
spk04: Great. Thanks. And let me add my congratulations as well. Hey, can you remind us in terms of vertical mix today, you know, how much is technology versus maybe some of the other verticals and then where the average client size sits? And, you know, as you have more of a distributed workforce, does that change classifications of workers or you know, the average PEPM per WSC, maybe just some components as to, you know, what the new world looks like post-COVID as opposed to prior as we think about the model. And then if you could maybe on retention, I know there's a lot there, but just, you know, how you're thinking about retention longer term as well.
spk00: Yeah. Kevin, let me take that. This is Kelly.
spk01: Hey, Kelly.
spk00: In terms of In terms of tech, it is our largest vertical. So when we look at all of our verticals, it is our largest. We don't give percentages, but it's our largest single vertical. And when I think about the change in existing or hiring in the quarter, the net hiring was actually up about 7%. So just quarter over quarter, we saw a 7% increase in the tech vertical, just given the strength there. Average size of client, I think we're right around 21. So, you know, it's still relatively small. You asked about a distributed workforce and does that change our pricing? We currently do not distinguish pricing based on the level of distribution of our workforce at this point in time. And then on retention, I think that was your last question and then I'll make sure I was responsive. But on retention, We are seeing people now focusing on the back end of the house. They were, you know, during the period of deep COVID really not focusing on back office and trying to make sure they could keep their businesses surviving. But we are seeing a little more retention, but just really back to historical levels.
spk01: I wouldn't say it's elevated.
spk09: Thank you.
spk01: Thanks, Kevin.
spk08: Again, if you have a question, please press star then one. Our next question will come from Andrew Nicholas with William Blair. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for answering my question. Just the first one was just on kind of the success of the sales season to date. I know you're kind of getting into the heart of it if you aren't already there. And just was wondering what's driving some of that momentum. Obviously, you touched on a bunch of different, you know, valuable portions of the PEO construct. But is your sense now that win rates versus other PEOs are going up? Is it more about more awareness to the PEO model or just kind of any more color you can give on what's driving sales momentum specific to maybe industry adoptions?
spk05: Absolutely, Andrew. So this is Burton. First, I believe the fall selling season is going well. So I'm excited about that. I believe we have the right approach to targeting our verticals. As we've talked about in the past, we do not run into other PEOs that often. Over 50% of the quotes that we generate, and those are quotes, are not competitive directly against another PEO. So I can't speak for the other PEOs, but as I said in my opening remarks, I believe this is the perfect environment for PEOs because of that remote complexity. We're investing in new sales as we build this sustainable growth. From a Trinet standpoint, I continue to be excited about the work that Jonathan LeCompte and his team are doing. And I believe we're moving towards a sustainable vision of scaled new sales. So overall, I believe we're headed in the right direction. To specifically answer another question you had, yes, I am a big believer in brand awareness and brand sentiment. And PeopleForce, which we invested heavily in, helped to promote that from a Trinet standpoint. But I also believe it helps to raise the visibility of the PEO model for the four plus million businesses that have an opportunity to avail themselves to that model, whether it be with Trinet or another one of the PEOs out there.
spk02: Great. Thank you. And then maybe as my follow-up, a different way to ask an earlier question was just around kind of the top end of what what size category would be amenable to a PEO structure. I'm just wondering, given all the complexity around regulatory restrictions and working remote, making it all the more complicated, is there an argument to be made that companies could potentially stay within the PEO construct longer, given how much more complex it is? Or do you feel like that the top end of this range is still pretty steady relative to pre-COVID?
spk05: It's a great question. I believe that it raises the top end that would stay with the PEO. It really depends on the complexity. As we've talked about in the past, it's not necessarily the absolute number of workers. It's the number of states that they're in. It's the number of divisions, whether they have different operating models in different states. So All in all, I believe that they will stay longer based on this complexity. The average size of our clients is rising. I don't have the direct analysis. Part of it is that we're focused on the bigger clients now. But I can tell you that I am actively working on multi-hundred person deals to come into Trinet today. And I'm working on more of those than I have in the past.
spk02: Great. That's really helpful. And if it's all right, if I can squeeze one more in.
spk10: Absolutely.
spk02: For Kelly, just in terms of the insurance margin guidance, that is not incorporating any clawback of kind of recovery credit for $25 million, correct?
spk00: That's a great question. You are absolutely right.
spk01: Given our expectation of insurance costs, we think we're well above the hurdle that would claw that back.
spk02: Great. Thanks a lot.
spk09: Appreciate it. Thanks, Andrew.
spk08: Again, if you have a question, please press star then 1.
spk10: Our next question will come from David Grossman from Stiefel.
spk08: Please go ahead.
spk07: Thank you. Good afternoon.
spk05: Hey, David.
spk07: Hey, Burton. I think this maybe came up earlier, but I just wanted to make sure I understood. When you look at, you know, the growth in the portfolio, Do you have any visibility into the same store growth versus new sales?
spk09: You know, kind of give us just a sense of how that's trending this year.
spk01: It's a good question.
spk00: We don't provide that level of visibility, but I would say that most of the growth during the quarter really was hiring versus net new.
spk07: Okay. Is that, do you think, just unique to kind of where we are in terms of the pandemic, the recovery and all that stuff? Or do you see any signs in terms of your sales activity to date that we may see that trend kind of change a little bit as you go into next year, just based on the pipeline and what you sold here today?
spk05: Yeah, it's a good question, David. Obviously, with the large install base and the growing change in existing, that has an outsized impact on the all-time high WSE count. I don't want to take anything away from new sales because I now have two quarters in a row where they're up year over year. So I think it's just a phenomenal customer base. And the other thing, which I said in the opening remarks, which I think is kind of cool, is Main Street has recovered completely from from the pandemic lows. So the WSE count in those customers is back to where it was pre-pandemic. So this is a much broader recovery at this point through TriNet's lens across all of our verticals. And now I can tell you that every vertical is either flat or up from the beginning starting point of 2019 before the pandemic.
spk07: Good. And just maybe just a corollary to that last comment, because I had another question just about professional services. So, you know, it looks like professional services, you know, kind of flattish sequentially and similar up a little bit from the first quarter. So is that kind of that next shift back to Main Street? Is that why that number is staying relatively flat and revenue per professional services revenue per WSE is coming down off those numbers? kind of highs that we saw in the first quarter? Is that the phenomenon going on there?
spk00: Well, David, you know, I guess the way I think about it is, you know, last quarter we had some pretty extraordinary bonus payments and a few other one-time things that I think I talked about on the call that drove the PSR on a per WSE, per average WSE base a little bit up and said I wouldn't really expect that to continue. We still are seeing a little bit of benefit from rate as we put some minimums in on our individual clients, smaller clients, just to align with the cost to serve those smaller clients. But I think it's more the fact that I'd highlighted some unusuals last quarter that really aren't recurring quite at the same level this quarter.
spk07: Great. And then just one other question, Burton, maybe you could address this, that You talk a lot about trying to enhance the offering that will keep people longer, and that makes perfect economic sense for this model. Just wondering, do you have any different thinking on the kind of more entry level of the market where you can offer a simpler product without taking insurance risks, so you can kind of take that the element of scaling out of the equation or that risk, you know, that you can incur when you take on smaller customers. Just curious, you know, if you have any thoughts at the lower end of the market.
spk05: Absolutely, David. So we are strategizing on both of those, meaning the smaller end of the market as well as the as they grow larger to keep them longer, because obviously at that point, The opportunity to help them is very important to us. So what I would say is it's all around the insurance construct and the PEO construct. And from an insurance standpoint, at some point being able to support our clients other than Trinet 11 on non-single employer plans makes sense. I'm not announcing anything here today, but that makes sense. And on the smaller end, being able to support those clients in a model that allows them to on-ramp to the TriNet PEO model also makes sense. So we're exploring all of those things, but I will not take my eyes off of the core customer base that is supporting us in this growth that is TriNet. So a bunch of things to come. We have some great ideas for the first half of next year and stay tuned, but I'm really thrilled with the customer base we have and the opportunity we have. We are not seeing a lot of changes in the environment from a competitive standpoint, and we're going to continue to execute exactly as we talked about for quite a while now. Thanks very much. Yep.
spk08: This concludes our question and answer session, which also concludes today's conference. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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