TPG RE Finance Trust, Inc.

Good morning, and welcome to the TPG Real Estate Finance Trust third quarter 2023 earnings conference call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. Should you require an operator assistance during the conference, please press star zero to signal an operator. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Deborah Ginsberg, General Counsel, Vice President, and Secretary. Please go ahead.

Thanks, David. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Welcome to TPG Real Estate Finance Trust's conference call for the third quarter of 2023. I'm joined today by Doug Bucard, Chief Executive Officer, and Bob Foley, Chief Financial Officer. Doug and Bob will share some comments about the quarter, and then we'll open up the call for questions. Yesterday evening, we filed our Form 10-Q and issued a press release and earnings supplemental with a presentation of our operating results. all of which are available on our website in the investor relations section. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call may include forward-looking statements, which are uncertain and outside of the company's control. Actual results may differ materially. For a discussion of some of the risks that could affect results, please see the risk factors section of our 10Q and 10K. We do not undertake any duty to update these statements, and we will also refer to certain non-GAAP measures on this call. And for reconciliations, you should refer to the press release in our 10-Q. With that, I turn the call over to Doug Bucard, Chief Executive Officer of TPG Real Estate Finance Trust.

Thank you, Debra. Good morning, and thank you for joining our call.

Over the past quarter, risk sentiment in the broader market has demonstrably shifted to the negative. The S&P 500 sold off nearly 10%. The 10-year Treasury yield hit an all-time high since 2007 of over 5%. and the Fed has remained steadfast in its restrictive policies to slow the economy. Despite the Fed's policy, the labor market has remained resilient, the consumer continues to spend, and the U.S. economy thus far has aborted a recession. Within the commercial real estate market, the move higher in interest rates and weakening risk sentiment has exacerbated many of the same headwinds facing the real estate sector earlier this year. Values are under further pressure, liquidity is constrained, and transaction volumes remain low. Furthermore, the secular challenges within the office space continue to grow as fresh equity and debt capital continues to avoid this property sector. Given the market backdrop, our posture and strategic position remains consistent with prior quarters. We maintain elevated levels of liquidity, we are patient on capital deployment, and we are proactively addressing credit challenge to assets across our balance sheet. Fortunately, it is challenging investment in climates like this where the depth and breadth of TPG's real estate investment platform truly shines. With over 20 billion of AUM across equity and debt strategies, we have valuable insights and perspectives that help drive our investment decisions. Over the past quarter, our decline in net income was driven predominantly by the sale of two office assets, one of which we mentioned last quarter as a subsequent event. As we continue to reduce our exposure to the office market, These two sales reduced our exposure to a borrower experiencing significant operational and liquidity issues and reflected our belief that selling the loan now maximized value for shareholders. In contrast to those loan sales, we also extended two office loans, where in each case the borrower has shown clear commitment to both executing their business plan and have contributed significant fresh equity to the property over the past year. These resolutions are consistent with our strategy to resolve credit-challenged assets. Whether through loan restructuring, owning a property via REO or a loan sale, we remain incredibly focused on maximizing shareholder value with a keen eye on the long-term growth of the company. Over the past quarter, we received repayments totaling $297 million across multifamily hotel and office exposure. We funded one $44 million loan, a 63 LTV hotel loan at a spread of SOFR plus 455. Our investment pace remained slow by choice, but we remain excited about future prospects for the real estate lending opportunity set. Elevated interest rates, widening credit spreads, and substantial pullback in lending appetite across the market, particularly by regional banks, will benefit TRTX over the long term. As a sign of the progress we continue to make, over the past quarter, we had a 42% reduction in non-accrual loans on our balance sheet, a modest reduction in our CECL reserve, and further progress on our office exposure. While our CECL reserve is elevated, we have a consistent record of resolving credit-challenged assets substantially in line with our reserves. To put a finer point on office, over the past 18 months, we have reduced our office exposure nearly 1.2 billion or approximately 53% in terms of principal balance. And we strongly believe that addressing office exposure is something to be done now, not in the coming years with a hope that interest rates will drop and the work-from-home trend will return to pre-COVID levels. We are addressing this secular issue head on, and we have executed this plan through a diversity of resolution strategies. Full principal payoffs, partial principal paydowns, loan modifications, loan sales, in certain cases, take ownership of assets if we determine that to be the value-maximizing path. To be very clear, we will continue to use every asset management tool at TPG's disposal to maximize shareholder value. I'm pleased to report we've executed this strategy while maintaining ample liquidity. This quarter, we ended with $571 million of liquidity comprised of $302 million of cash and $238 million of reinvestment capacity within our CRE CLOs. We are acutely aware that our liquidity posture weighs on the earnings power of the company in the short term. We believe this is prudent from a risk management perspective and will benefit the company in the long term. Furthermore, as we were an early mover to acknowledge the paradigm shift afoot in the real estate market, particularly within office, we are confident that the investment decisions we've made over the past year will enable our company to take full advantage of the attractive real estate credit environment over the long term.

With that, I will turn the call over to Bob to discuss our financial results in greater detail.

Thanks, Doug. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us.

Regarding operating results, gap net loss to common shareholders was $64.6 million for the third quarter compared to $72.7 million for the second quarter. This largely reflects the sale of two non-performing loans. which generated losses for GAAP purposes of $109.3 million, and the conversion to REO of an apartment property in LA, which generated a GAAP loss of $7.3 million. CECL reserves were previously established for all of these loans. Net interest margin for our loan portfolio was $19.5 million versus $26.1 million in the prior quarter, a decrease of $6.6 million, or $0.08 per common share, due almost entirely to loan repayments during the third quarter loan repayments in full, I should say, of $261.3 million, and in the second quarter of $236 million. Distributable earnings declined quarter over quarter to a loss of $103.7 million versus a loss of $14.4 million in the prior quarter, due largely to the realized losses from the non-performing loans and REO conversion Doug mentioned. Distributable earnings before realized credit losses was $13.7 million, or 18 cents per share, as compared to $19.1 million, or $0.25 per share, in the prior quarter. Non-performing loans declined quarter over quarter by a full 42% to $318.1 million. 92% of our loan portfolio measured by UPV was performing at quarter end. If measured by net loan exposure, which is defined as UPV minus CECL reserves, 95% of our loan portfolio was performing at quarter end. Our CECL reserve decreased quarter over quarter by $41.7 million, or 15%, to $236.6 million from $278.3 million last quarter. Our CECL reserve rate declined to 560 basis points from 572 basis points. This decline in dollar terms and basis points reflects our team's progress in efficiently resolving credit challenge loans, recovering capital for investment, and effective asset management of the remainder of our investment portfolio. At quarter end, book value per share was $12.04, a decline of $1.06 from the second quarter due primarily to a dividend that exceeded pre-credit loss earnings by $0.08 a share and additional CECL reserve related primarily to certain four and five rated loans. Regarding liquidity, we maintain high levels of immediate and near-term liquidity, roughly 12.8 percent of total assets, to support our asset resolution and loan investment strategies. Cash and near-term liquidity increased quarter over quarter by $27.7 million to $570.6 million, which was comprised of $302.3 million of balance sheet cash, $237.5 million of CLO reinvestment cash, and $30.5 million of undrawn capacity under various secured credit agreements. Our third CLO remains open for reinvestment through the first quarter of 2024. During the quarter, we funded $21.4 million of commitments under existing loans. Unfunded commitments declined by $52.9 million, or 17.6%, to $247.6 million, which is only 5.9% of our total loan commitments. Regarding credit, we made substantial progress during the first three quarters of 2023 in promptly resolving credit challenge loans. for which we've concluded that a meaningful recovery in loan or collateral value is unlikely. Every resolution, whether an amendment, modification, loan sale, discounted payoff, or REO conversion is evaluated using the same bold versus sell reinvestment analysis. During the third quarter, we sold two non-performing loans with an aggregate UPV of $281.6 million and incurred losses of $109.3 million. We repaid 197 million of related borrowings, thus reducing quarterly interest expense by approximately 4.1 million or 5 cents per share per quarter. Non-accrual loans declined quarter over quarter by 42% to 318.1 million versus 546.7 million at June 30th. After quarter end, we sold one of those non-accrual loans, an $86.7 million loan on an office building in Arlington, Virginia, just across the Potomac River from Washington, D.C. The results of those sales will be disclosed in next quarter's financial submissions. Risk ratings remained unchanged at 3.2, with limited migration between categories. In the third quarter, two loans were downgraded to 5 from 4, and five loans were repaid or resolved with a weighted average risk rating of 3.6. Regarding CECL, our CECL reserve declined quarter over quarter by $41.7 million, due to loan repayments, loan sales, and one REO conversion, offset in part by increases in seasonal reserves driven by worsening macroeconomic assumptions and further deterioration in the debt and equity capital markets, especially for office properties. Regarding our liabilities and capital base, non-market-to-market liabilities remain the essential ingredient in our financing strategy. At quarter end, non-market-to-market liabilities represented 68.9% of our liability base as compared to 71.7 at June 30. Leverage declined further to 2.6 to 1 from 2.7, 9 to 1. During the quarter, we extended for one year our $500 million secured financing arrangement with Goldman Sachs. We have executed a term sheet and our negotiating documents for another non-market-to-market note-on-note arrangement with a new banking party, And when closed, it will be our third such arrangement in place. The market power of TPG's firm-wide capital markets business enables us to source and sustain long-dated, cost-efficient debt capital to support our existing portfolio and selective loan purchases and originations. At quarter end, we have $237.5 million of reinvestment capacity available in FL5 to refinance existing loans financed elsewhere on our balance sheet or to support new loan acquisitions or originations. We expect to promptly utilize this capacity during the fourth quarter, which we estimate will generate incremental interest income per quarter of roughly $0.07 per share. And with that, we'll open the floor for questions. Operator?

Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. If at any time you wish to remove your question from the queue, please press star 2. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. Our first question comes from Stephen Laws with Raymond James.

Hi, good morning. Good morning. Doug, I want to start with maybe a bigger picture around the three rated loans. When you think about a little over $3 billion, where do you think you are in identifying things that may face future negative rating migrations versus you're already past what you guys believe is a stress point and you feel really good there? How do you think about that as a risk?

Sure. So I think within our three rated loans, generally speaking, that's where we first of all have confidence that the borrower is executing on their business plan first and foremost. Secondly, from an LTV perspective, we feel as though we have sufficient cushion in terms of today's values. And then I would say third, you know, we have a tremendous amount of insight as a function of the sort of broader TPG real estate investment platform around, you know, where valuation is today. So we, of course, you know, have the benefit of those insights as we kind of think through risk ratings, generally speaking.

Great.

And then, Bob, I think you mentioned two new five-rated loans. Can you provide a little color on those?

Sure.

One is an office building on the West Coast where the operator has experienced a decline in occupancy, which is not unique to this building. It's fairly market-wide. And the Bay Area, where it returned to office, has been rather slow and underwhelming. And the other is a well-leased multifamily property in the west suburbs of Chicago. Both are instances that we've been tracking for a while, and we have asset resolution plans in place for each of those.

Great. And then lastly, I wanted to touch on earnings and make sure I heard you correct. The repayments of borrowings associated with loans sold would reduce interest expenses around five cents, and then over the next quarter, the full impact of their CLO replenishment. you know, kind of fair to say run rate distributed learnings or kind of excluding realized losses that will flow through depending on resolutions that we've sort of seen the trough here given those two dynamics?

Well, never say never, but we do feel like we have fairly good visibility going forward on a number of things. You know, one is that there are several levels, levers that we have available to pull with respect to, you know, setting a new level or equilibrium for recurring earnings for the company. One of them, as you just mentioned, is reducing our non-performing loan balance, where on the one side, we're not earning any interest income, and on the other side, we're paying every month interest expense on funding to maintain that loan position or those loan positions. As I mentioned earlier, we cut that quarter over quarter by 42%. And in some instances, those positions are financed very cost-effectively. For example, in certain of our CLOs and others, the cost of funds is a little bit higher. So the savings there can be quite substantial. You know, we have $237.5 million of cash in FL5, as I mentioned, and we estimate that there's an upside note there of, you know, around $0.07. We have substantial liquidity on the balance sheet, which as Doug described, by choice. We have elected to date not to deploy, but employing that over the next couple of quarters if and when we conclude that's the right thing to do. It's really a 10% ROE-ish market today for making appropriate transitional first mortgage loans with strong sponsors, so there's considerable or meaningful upside there. And I mentioned in my remarks the company is very low levered in comparison to all really of its public peers. And so there's an opportunity for upside there too.

Fantastic. Thanks for the color, Bob. Appreciate the comments this morning.

Our next question is from Sarah Barkham with BTIG.

Hey, good morning, everyone. So you've been- Hi, Sarah.

How are you?

Hey, good morning. So you've been removing the more difficult credits from the portfolio via loan sales this year, and you've brought in a couple new loans with the proceeds, but repayments have been strong as well, so the portfolio is contracting. Should we continue to assume that part of the dividend will be paid out of book value, given run rate earnings are shaking out a little bit below run rate DE, or how should we think about that?

I'd say consistent with prior quarters, the decision relating to the dividend is a board-level decision. And that decision, of course, will be a function of our view of the earnings power of the company as we work through credit-challenged assets, and then also the available investment opportunities going forward. But again, that's a board-level decision. Okay.

Okay, so my follow-up is with respect to the five rated loans. The specific CECL stayed about the same at $175 million, but the total principal balance of that group came down. So my question is, do the two loans that came into the five rated pool carry higher loss assumptions than the existing assets, or did your outlook for those three five rated loans that were already in their last quarter worsen? How should we think about that dynamic across those five loans?

Good morning, Sarah. It's Bob. Happy to answer that question. You're correct. There were two loans that moved into five, and so they effectively brought with them the allocated CECL reserve associated with each. There were a small number of loans that were already in the specifically identified pool. where we did slightly increase the reserves, primarily office and primarily for the reasons that Doug commented on earlier. But relative to the removals, frankly, that resulted from the loan resolutions achieved during the quarter, they were relatively modest.

Thank you. Thanks, Sarah.

Our next question is from Rick Shane with JP Morgan.

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question. I need to queue in before Sarah because she really hit my primary topic in terms of dividend. But would love to explore this just a little bit more. Obviously, with the realized losses, that creates an opportunity to really rethink the dividend. But even if we just start to normalize for recurring spread income, it's unclear whether or not 24 cents is the right run rate. Can you talk about both the dynamic in terms of realized losses and also the ongoing spread income to support the dividend?

Sure. And happy to provide a little more context there. So just to, you know, reiterate some of the important components of that determination, which, again, is done at a board level. But, you know, we look at current liquidity, our targeted liquidity levels. expectations on credit challenge loans and then ultimately it comes down to a capital allocation decision. To put some numbers around it, Rick, to your question, you know, net income before credit losses has really ranged between 18 to 25 cents per share. And we believe that this is an important precursor to establishing sustaining earnings power once we substantially complete our asset resolution strategy. I think Bob had mentioned within his comments at the beginning of the call that just in deploying the capital within our series CLO, which again has substantial amount of available reinvestment, that alone will add approximately seven cents per share. So I think that metric I think is important as we really think about Again, establishing the sustainable earnings power of the balance sheet as we've worked through some of the credit-challenged assets.

Got it. And, look, I understand the balancing act here, and I appreciate that you guys have been forward-leaning in terms of building reserve, transparency, and resolving issues. uh, troubled loans and, and, you know, I, we may be in an environment where first loss is best loss and it's a little bit painful, uh, to watch right now, but we look at the disconnect between, um, book value per share and, um, the, where the stock's trading and a dividend policy that allows you given the losses, uh, probably to retain more capital. Why not be a lot more aggressive on the buyback side at this point than on the dividend side?

Look, we're always looking at ways in terms of optimizing capital allocations. I think that our main focus over the past few quarters, as you know, has been really preserving liquidity, keeping our liquidity elevated. It's really allowed us to navigate credit challenge loans better. you know, frankly, and I think that's really been at the top of the list. I think as we work through our credit challenge loans, which again, we've made a lot of progress, particularly this quarter, and I expect next quarter as well, we will always be thinking about what the appropriate capital allocation is in terms of cash in our balance sheet.

Okay. Thank you very much, guys.

Thanks, Rick. Thank you, Rick. Our next question is from Aaron Saganovich with Citi.

Thanks. I wanted to touch on credit migration trends and how they're moving about within the portfolio. Is this still kind of coming from loan maturities that are forcing the sponsors to make a choice, or is there actual kind of deterioration within some of these individual underlying assets?

Good morning, Aaron.

Thanks for your question. I think that migration is, you know, as we said, it's been pretty stable. We review every loan every quarter. And, you know, look, we've materially reduced office. We've got, by choice, a significant investment position in multifamily loans. And as Doug described earlier, the performance there against business plan has been quite good. Clearly, rent growth has slowed, but our entry point there And frankly, the remaining mark to market in a lot of those positions is quite strong. So we've just not, you know, we feel good about where we're quote unquote mark in terms of risk ratings. Situations change, but that's, you know, that's how we see it right now.

Okay, and then in the fourth quarter, it looks like you have a few maturities, including a couple fives. Have you had any early indications on how those might play out in the quarter?

Well, yes.

We're very proactive in terms of our asset management, and I think the resolutions over the last number of quarters reflect that. We do have some low maturities coming up in the fourth quarter, and, you know, we expect that we'll be employing all of the energy that Doug described earlier. We may see some extensions. We may see some resolutions in the form of sale or REO conversion, and we may see some repayments as well. And we'll be, you know, excited and pleased to report on all of that when we speak again in, I guess, it'll be February.

Okay. Thank you.

Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached the end of the question and answer session, and I would like to turn the call back to Doug McHard for closing remarks.

Thank you. Again, just wanted to thank everyone for taking the time, and we look forward to keeping you updated on our progress. Thank you very much.

This concludes today's conference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time.