TransUnion

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

7/25/2023

spk12: Hello and welcome to the TransUnion 2023 Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touchtone phone. Please note this event is being recorded. I would like now to turn the conference over to Erin Hoffman, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk10: Good morning, everyone, and thank you for attending today. Joining me on the call are Chris Cartwright, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Todd Sello, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We posted our earnings release and slides to accompany this call on the TransUnion Investor Relations website this morning. Our earnings release and the accompanying slides include various schedules, which contain more detailed information about revenue, operating expenses, and other items as well as certain non-GAAP disclosures and financial measures, along with the corresponding reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to their most directly comparable GAAP measures. Today's call will be recorded, and a replay will be available on our website. We will also be making statements during this call that are forward-looking. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions and are subject to risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ materially from those described in the forward-looking statements because of factors discussed in today's earnings release, in the comments made during this conference call, and in our most recent Form 10-K, Forms 10-Q, and other reports and filings with the SEC. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. With that, let me turn the time over to Chris.
spk07: Thanks, Aaron, and let me add my welcome and share our agenda for the call this morning. First, I'll discuss the macroeconomic conditions in TransUnion's markets around the world. Then I'll provide an overview of our strong second quarter financial performance. I'll also review the continued progress with NuSTAR to accelerate revenue growth and achieve savings targets. And I'll wrap up with a short discussion of our Global Capability Center strategy, which enables us to scale our global business efficiently and tap into diverse talent pools. And finally, Todd will detail our second quarter results along with our third quarter and full year guidance. Through the second quarter, macroeconomic conditions are unchanged to slightly improved, with reduced expectations for a recession in the U.S. In most of our markets globally, consumers continue to face higher interest rates and elevated, although moderating, inflation levels. This combination will continue to strain household finances although high employment levels and modest real wage gains have mitigated the impact of these pressures to date in most of our markets. Consumers remain resilient, and we see positive continued demand for borrowing. In the U.S., we've seen increased caution and tighter lending standards from banks. However, the strong demand for credit continues to be met by a broad range of lenders. U.S. consumers remain healthy and optimistic relative to historical norms, with modest spending growth based on strong employment and real wage increases. Credit performance metrics have continued to normalize and remain within range of pre-pandemic and historical levels. Although delinquencies have increased, they're still very comfortable by historic standards across mortgage, card, auto, and unsecured personal loans. Across our international portfolio, conditions also remain largely unchanged. In Canada and the U.K., consumer health and credit demand continue to be similar to the U.S., with persistently high inflation and rising rates burdening consumers and slowing lending markets. However, lending volumes in our emerging markets of India, Asia Pacific, South Africa, and LATAM remain strong. Like many of our customers, we remain cautious about the rest of 2023. Therefore, we will again maintain our full-year guidance at this point to account for market uncertainties despite overachieving in the second quarter. Todd will walk you through the details later of our third quarter and full-year guidance and expectations for each of our markets and verticals. Now turning to second quarter highlights, we again beat our guidance for revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted diluted earnings per share. U.S. markets grew 1%, with financial services flat and emerging verticals up 3%. Our financial services vertical performed in line with our expectations, though mortgage was slightly below expectations, but offset by modestly better performance in consumer lending. U.S. emerging verticals was also in line with our expectations and improved sequentially from the first quarter. Importantly, we have seen signs that the short-term headwinds we've faced in tenant and employment screening and insurance are moderating, which should position us for faster growth in the second half of the year in those verticals. Our international segment grew constant currency revenue by double digits for the ninth consecutive quarter, led by 35% revenue growth in India and double-digit growth in Asia Pacific, Africa, and Canada. We continue to outperform our underlying markets because of market share gains and our industry leading innovation. Across all our markets, our broad solutions portfolio is resonating with our customers, helping them navigate complex and hard to forecast economic conditions. And as I'll detail in a moment, we continue to make progress integrating NuSTAR and see strong customer adoption of our platforms and solutions. Also in the quarter, we announced a commercial partnership and a minority investment in TrueWork, a rapidly emerging player in the income and employment verification market. TrueWork uses sophisticated orchestration software to support a multi-pronged strategy to provide coverage of 90% of U.S. employees. We see an attractive opportunity to help bring TrueWork's unique solutions to our broad customer base in markets like financial services and rental screening, among others. And finally, we continue to direct our free cash flow toward reducing our debt levels. And in the second quarter, we prepaid another $75 million in debt and intend to make additional prepayments in the second half of the year. We have now prepaid $150 million of debt this year. Moving to NuSTAR, NuSTAR delivered 6% organic growth as a result of solid performance across marketing, fraud, and communications. For the full year, we continue to expect high single-digit revenue growth and a 32% margin, fueled by profit flow-through on accelerating revenues and attainment of our integration cost savings. We have line of sight to the revenue growth based on our strong bookings and the momentum achieved by joint sales teams aligned by vertical markets. In the first half of the year, we signed meaningful renewals with dozens of customers, including some of the largest companies in the world. We've also begun recognizing revenue on a number of new multi-million dollar contracts that we believe will accelerate growth in the second half. At the same time, we have numerous late-stage large contracts that should further enhance growth over the remainder of the year. Taken together, these wins give us confidence in delivering high single-digit growth for NuSTAR this year. During the quarter, we also announced a number of partnerships that further underpin our confidence in the short and long-term prospects for NuSTAR. At Snowflake's annual user conference, we announced the launch of True Audience Marketing Solutions' Transferless Identity Resolution app. It's now in the Snowflake Marketplace. This partnership brings our advanced identity resolution capabilities to shared customers wherever their data and marketing technology lives. Together, we're helping our customers improve their consumer data quality and collaborate with partners without sharing sensitive customer information. Marketers and publishers want to connect disparate offline and online data and enrich consumer profiles with demographics data from true audience identity solutions. Using this app, they can do that without transferring data outside the Snowflake environment. The transferless quality of the native app helps to support security, privacy, and data governance. We also partnered with VideoAmp to release a comprehensive analytics solution for cross-platform media measurement and optimization. Marketers will now have more accurate visibility into the effectiveness of their linear television advertising by integrating VideoAmp's TV viewership data set into the true audience marketing analytics and attribution solution. This integration enables marketers to better measure the holistic impact of their campaigns across TV and digital channels and to enable data-driven decisions. And we expanded our partnership with Magnite the world's largest independent sell-side advertising company, increasing their true audience data marketplace usage beyond connected TV. Magnite can now help agencies, brand, and publishers reach audiences across digital media channels, including streaming video, audio, gaming, and digital out of homes. TransUnion's True Audience Data Marketplace offers advertisers and brands audience solutions that cover over 80 million U.S. connected homes. And our communication solutions continue to grow on the strength of our suite of True Contact Trusted Call Solutions, or TCS, which grew about 75% in the second quarter. Our teams continue to identify new applications that have resulted in rapid customer adoption across a host of verticals. Let me detail some of the recent progress in 2N markets. First, we've made inroads into the healthcare sector, where TCS can enhance the effectiveness of necessary phone calls at many steps of care, including booking appointments, pre-appointment insurance authorizations, appointment reminders, telehealth phone calls, test results, prescription pickups, and payment notices or reminders. Second, we see opportunities in the public sector, A few weeks ago, we launched True Lookup Veteran Connect to help state departments of Veterans Affairs improve outreach and effectively deliver housing, health care, job training, and other essential support to their members. In this case, True Contact branded call display verifies that the inbound call is coming from the Department of Veterans Affairs and adds context to the mobile call display, including brand name, location, logo, and reason for the call. Last quarter, I discussed our ongoing data and technology transformation, which has been supercharged by the NuSTAR acquisition. This quarter, I want to highlight our Global Capability Centers, or GCCs, and how they're enabling our transformation into a truly global organization. Investment in our GCCs in recent years has allowed us to centralize and standardize a variety of important work in high-talent and lower-cost locations. Today our GCCs are delivering high-quality solutions and services to customers using a follow-the-sun coverage approach across time zones. We launched our first GCC in 2018, and over the last five years, we've grown to more than 4,000 employees across India, South Africa, and our newest location, Costa Rica. Local GCC associates inject new ideas and energies into our solutions and our processes. Concentrating functions in software development, data science and analytics, operations, and business support functions creates scale efficiencies and consolidates knowledge and best practices. And as we grow our market share in the regions surrounding the GCCs, we believe their real-time support, regional expertise, and strong local language skills will be critical to supporting our customers. We've received numerous rewards reflecting the outstanding work of our GCCs. These include certification as great places to work in India and a top employer in South Africa. And in the last two months, our India GCC was recognized by NASCOM, the Indian IT Business Process Management Association, for its stellar distributed work model for the future, and also named by Everest Group as a top global business services employer in India. This recognition reflects the strong leadership we've put in place and the high caliber, diverse talent they've assembled. We see the growth of our GCC network as another attractive path to margin expansion and improved operational performance in the year to come. Now that wraps up my comments on our market conditions, second quarter performance, progress, integrating NuSTAR, and our successful GCC strategy. Now Todd will provide you with further details on our second quarter financial results and our third quarter and full year 2023 outlook. Over to you, Todd.
spk09: Thanks, Chris. And let me add my welcome to everyone. I'll start off with our consolidated financial results. Second quarter consolidated revenue increased 2% on a reported and 3% on an organic constant currency basis. There was no impact from acquisitions as we lapped the purchase of Argus last quarter. Foreign exchange was a 1% headwind. Our business grew 2% on an organic constant currency basis, excluding mortgage from both the second quarter of 2022 and 2023. Adjusted EBITDA declined 3% on a reported basis. Our adjusted EBITDA margins sequentially improved to 35.0%, down almost 200 basis points compared to the year-ago second quarter. which had the most challenging comparison for 2023. Second quarter adjusted diluted earnings per share declined 13 percent as a result of lower adjusted EBITDA and higher interest expense. Before I get into U.S. markets results, a reminder that we are reporting New Star revenue within our vertical market structure and we will discontinue providing standalone New Star reporting at the end of 2023. Now, looking at segment financial performance for the second quarter, U.S. markets revenue was up 1 percent compared to the year-ago quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for U.S. markets declined 5 percent and adjusted EBITDA margin was 34.6 percent. Financial services revenue was flat. Turning to the individual end markets, Consumer lending revenue declined low double digits against a high 20% growth rate in the year-ago quarter. After pulling back late last year in response to a potentially weakening consumer, fintechs have stabilized and remain active market participants with reasonable access to funding. We also continue to see strength in the buy-now, pay-later market. Our credit card business was down mid-single digits against a high teens growth rate in the prior year quarter. Issuers remain selective on marketing outreach but continue to originate at a healthy level. We are also benefiting from our relationships with larger firms that are aggressively utilizing digital marketing. Our auto business delivered low single-digit growth in the quarter on the strength of continued share gains, pricing, strong pre-qualification volumes, the impact of cross-selling new star marketing and call center solutions. We are seeing improving supply of new vehicles somewhat offset by continued weakness in the used vehicle market. For mortgage, revenue was up 16% in the quarter despite inquiry volumes falling about 29%. Absolute volumes remain weak, but year-ago comparisons started to ease. with volume declines offset by pricing and strong HELOC activity. At this point, refinancing activity is almost nonexistent, while the purchase market is stagnated as home prices remain high and existing homeowners are reluctant to leave low-rate mortgages. On a trailing 12-month basis, mortgage represented about 6.5% of total TransUnion revenue. For 2023, we now expect the inquiry market to be down roughly 25 percent and our revenue to increase roughly 20 percent. Let me now turn to our emerging verticals, which grew 3 percent in the quarter. Insurance delivered another good quarter. Importantly, we are seeing carriers receive approval for rate increases and beginning to pass those increased prices to consumers, which we believe will continue to drive a recovery in shopping activity. At this point, insurers have largely limited their marketing activity to brand-oriented campaigns and have yet to substantially reactivate personalized marketing to drive new applications. We also continue to benefit from new business wins, adoption of our innovations like True Vision Driving History, growth in newer markets like Life and Commercial Auto, and successful cross-selling of New Star and Sontic solutions. Tenant and employment screening was down against tough comps and a softening employment market. However, we continue to see signs of a recovery in the tenant market with month-over-month declines in rental rates, increases in move rates, and an increasing supply of rental units as new construction comes online. Our media vertical grew in the quarter as a result of continued business wins driven by the combination of TransUnion and New Star Solutions, as Chris described. Finally, we continue to see good growth in services and collections and tech, retail, and e-commerce, particularly on the strength of customer wins of our trusted call solution suite. Consumer interactive revenue declined 2 percent. Adjusted EBITDA margins were 47.0 percent, up about 80 basis points, as a result of more focused advertising spending. Our direct business continues to decline as we recalibrate our marketing approach to focus on higher value consumers. Thus far, we've seen good returns on the revamped tactics with better than expected customer acquisition stats at attractive cost acquire. In our indirect business, we grew in the second quarter on the strength of new business wins, particularly with financial services accounts using True Empower, formerly known as our Credit View platform. as well as a modest improvement with some of our partners that offer paid monitoring. For my comments about international, all revenue growth comparisons will be in constant currency. For the total segment, revenue grew 13% with four of our six reported markets growing by double digits. Adjusted EBITDA margin was 42.3%, down about 100 basis points as a result of strategic investments across our regions. Now, let's dig into the specifics for each region. In India, our largest international market, we grew 35 percent, reflecting strong market trends and generally healthy consumers. The diversity of our portfolio remains a real strength in India. We saw meaningful growth in both consumer and commercial credit markets, as well as from fraud and direct-to-consumer offerings. We expect India to deliver another year of over 30% growth. And with the exception of COVID impact 2020, we have grown this business over 30% every year since 2017. In the UK, revenue declined 1%. Excluding the revenue related to one-time contracts including with the UK government, we would have grown about 3% in the quarter despite a challenging macro environment. While lending markets have softened, we continue to see large banks staying active to satisfy demand, even as the fintech market has struggled. At the same time, we have seen good performance for our affordability and trended credit solutions to help lenders assess portfolio risk. our Canadian business grew 11% in the second quarter. While the market remains relatively flat, we have generated strong growth through the execution of share shifts in financial services and fintech, as well as a recovery in property and casualty insurance underwriting activity. In Latin America, revenue is up 5%, with broad-based growth across the majority of our markets, including another quarter of double-digit growth for our largest market, Colombia. Brazil was down in the quarter as we've seen some weakness in the fintech market. While macro conditions have softened across Latin America, our teams continue to win new business and financial services, particularly with fintechs and neobanks, insurance, government, and telcos. We also continue to see strong adoption of true vision trended credit and our fraud solutions. In Asia Pacific, we grew 20 percent from continued good performance in Hong Kong and the Philippines, where we continue to add new offerings and win new business. Finally, Africa increased 10 percent on broadly strong performance across the portfolio and the region, despite a challenging macroeconomic and social environment in several of our largest markets. In South Africa, Poor banking business growth was driven by solid market conditions and new business wins. This growth was augmented by continued strength in fast-growing verticals like telco and gaming. Outside of South Africa, we continue to see very strong revenue growth in markets like Kenya, Zambia, and Rwanda. We ended the quarter with roughly $5.5 billion of debt after prepaying another $75 million in the quarter. That left us with $442 million of cash on the balance sheet. We finished the quarter with a leverage ratio of 3.8 times. We have now prepaid $150 million of debt in 2023, and at this point, we continue to intend to prepay additional debt in the second half of the year. Looking back, since we announced the acquisition of Neustar in September of 2021, we've prepaid about $1.4 billion of debt. And to reiterate our previous comment, at this time, we have no intention to pursue any large-scale acquisitions and even smaller bolt-on acquisitions are not in our plans this year. We are focused on integrating and maximizing the growth potential of NuStar, Sontic, and Argus. That brings us to our outlook for the third quarter. In the third quarter, we expect FX to be insignificant to revenue and adjusted EBITDA. We expect revenue to come in between $973 and $988 million, or up 4% to 5% on an as-reported and organic constant currency basis. Our revenue guidance includes approximately 1.5 points of tailwind from mortgage, meaning that we expect the remainder of our business will be up 2.5% to 3.5% on an organic constant currency basis. We expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $361 and $370 million, an increase of 6% to 9%. We expect adjusted EBITDA margin to be up 80 to 110 basis points. We also expect adjusted diluted earnings per share to be between 92 cents and 95 cents, a range of down 1 to up 2%. Turning to the full year, most of our guidance remains largely unchanged. We expect about one point of headwind from FX on revenue and adjusted EBITDA, and we expect less than one point of impact from M&A. We expect revenue to come in between $3.825 and $3.885 billion, or up 3% to 5% on an as-reported and organic constant currency basis, and up 2% to 4%, excluding the impact of mortgage. For our business segments, our organic revenue growth outlook also remains unchanged. We expect U.S. markets to grow mid-single digits but low single digits without the impact of mortgage. We anticipate financial services to be up low single digits and down low single digits excluding mortgage. While the overall guidance for financial services is unchanged, we have modestly increased our expectations for consumer lending but reduce them for mortgage. We expect emerging verticals to be up mid-single digits. You can see the benefits of our diversified portfolio playing out, allowing us to maintain our full-year revenue guidance. We anticipate that international will grow low double digits in constant currency turns, driven by ongoing strength in emerging markets. And we continue to expect consumer interactive to decline low single digits. Turning back to total company outlook, we expect adjusted EBITDA to be between $1.388 and $1.421 billion, up 3% to 5%, also unchanged. That would result in adjusted EBITDA margin being flat to up 30 basis points, with the significant benefits of the new star cost savings partially offset by the inclusion of of Argus's relatively lower margins in the first quarter and some revenue mix considerations. We anticipate adjusted diluted earnings per share being flat to declining 4%, with higher interest expense offsetting adjusted EBITDA growth. And we continue to expect our adjusted tax rate to be approximately 23%. Depreciation and amortization is expected to be approximately $525 million, and we expect the portion excluding step-up amortization from our 2012 change in control and subsequent acquisitions to be about $225 million. We anticipate net interest expense will be about $275 million for the full year as the benefits of debt prepayment are offset by an increase in the SOFR forward curve. And we expect capital expenditures to come in at about 8 percent of revenue. I'll now turn the call back to Chris for some final comments.
spk07: Thank you, Todd. To wrap up, we had another good quarter, beating our guidance for revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted EPS. We're prudently holding our fuller guidance given the level of uncertainty in the market. At the same time, we continue to make meaningful progress integrating NuSTAR and delivering business wins from the combination. With that, I'll turn it back to Aaron.
spk10: Thanks, Chris. That concludes our prepared remarks. For the Q&A, as always, we ask that you each ask only one question so that we can include more participants. And so now, operator, we can begin the Q&A.
spk12: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your touch tone phone. If you're using a speaker phone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then 2. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question comes from Jeff Mueller with Baird. Go ahead.
spk06: Yeah, thank you. Thank you. So totally respect the prudence in maintaining the guidance. I guess just in terms of not flowing through the better Q2, and I know you said it's still an uncertain and tough macro, but you said that's unchanged to slightly improved. I see the offset in the lowered U.S. mortgage revenue and inquiries guidance. Is there anything else that you're seeing in your business kind of later in the quarter, early in Q3, or any signals you're getting from your customers that is showing a pullback in activity, or is it just maybe extra conservatism or prudence? Thank you.
spk09: Good morning, Jeff. This is Todd. I'll take that question, and probably a very appropriate place for us to start this morning. So, yeah, in Q1 and Q2, we did beat expectations across revenue, adjusted EBITDA, and adjusted diluted EPS. And we did not raise the guide. And the reason for that is we feel that the economic conditions, particularly in the U.S. and in some of the developed markets that we operate in, continue to remain uncertain. And as a point, you know, to that and how we think about this. If you go back to our April call when we gave our Q1 results and the updated guide, at that time we significantly increased our mortgage assumption for the year because we saw a mixed shift and more towards smaller players in the space. But we reduced our consumer lending forecast for the year. close to similar amounts for all intents and purposes. And in the consumer lending space, what we were seeing at that time was a slowdown, and it was primarily in response to the aftermath of the Silicon Valley Bank and signature failures. We saw just a cautiousness in the late March, early April period. So what happened is in the second quarter, Those dynamics that I just articulated that we forecasted, in essence, we saw almost perverse. We saw interest rates tick up, in particular, on the 10-year yield, which had a direct impact on mortgage rates, where we saw mortgage rates close to 7%, not that long ago, still in the upper sixes. So as a result of that, in this guide, what we've done is we've taken down our mortgage assumption And conversely, consumer lending, as the second quarter went on and our customers got more and more comfortable with the type of environment that they were operating in, we started to see the consumer lending volumes, you know, tick up. So, again, kind of a similar offsetting case there. So I think that's just important because when you look at the full year guide and you see that we maintained There are puts and takes, you know, that we're seeing, you know, in the business, and that's probably, you know, the best example I can give you. I think I would say, though, is, you know, needless to say, is we're really pleased to have been able to outperform in the first half of the year. And really what we're, you know, we're focused on is de-risk and de-risking the second half of the year. But with that being said, when you look at the growth rates and, you know, the expectations for the second half of the year, We feel that the guide is strong. We feel like we're going to deliver a good second half. And it really gets to the point of your question is our customers, we are seeing a stability right now, again, in more of our developed markets. So think of U.S. financial services as well as in markets like Canada and even a little bit in the U.K. Maybe that's a little bit more pressured. And the international business continues to grow strongly, you know, in the double digits. So that's what gives us, you know, the conviction in the second half. Thank you.
spk12: Our next question comes from Kelsey Zhu of Autonomous. Go ahead.
spk02: Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I'm very excited about your strategic partnership with TrueWork. Just trying to understand a little bit better about, you know, the size of TrueWork's database and revenue, as well as your strategy to expand there. I was also wondering if you can share with us a little bit more about what the downstream customer breakdown looks like between kind of mortgage, background screening companies for TrueWork, and whether you're usually competing with Equifax and Experian in this space, or are you more competing with some of the in-house manual verification processes at these mortgage lenders? Thanks.
spk07: Okay, Kelsey, thank you for the question. And, again, we're excited about our partnership with TrueWorks. You know, I think any discussion of verified employment, with the context that the work number is setting the standard for product in this marketplace. But it's a big and attractive adjacent market for us. And I think the investment in TrueWork just reflects our continued efforts to find our way into this market and scale our revenues. We think the market is hungry for competitive alternatives. and we're one of a number of players that sees the opportunity and we're gonna continue to work to find the right solutions that can satisfy client needs and scale revenues. What we like about TruWork is they're a rapidly emerging player in the space and they're very kind of foot forward technologically. They have sophisticated workflow and orchestration software that's very easy to access and has a very streamlined user interface that allows customers to fulfill the need through a variety of approaches or mechanisms that could be tapping into their database of employment and income, which is... which is well beyond critical mass and growing from relationships with payroll processors, but also with major corporations. But they can also support a consumer permissioned account access workflow, the traditional telephonic workflow, document upload embedded within the loan origination lifecycle. So the kind of umbrella functionality that they provide across a range of fulfillment methods is particularly attractive. We think we have certainly attractive data assets and very broad distribution, MSAs, relationships with the demand side that can help scale this investment. And then to some of your more detailed questions, those are probably better for the TrueWorks CEO, but I think this just reinforces our strategic intent to compete in this space and our ongoing efforts to find the right solution to help us penetrate and scale.
spk02: Thanks for that.
spk12: Our next question comes from Faiza Ali of Deutsche Bank. Go ahead.
spk04: Yes, hi, good morning. I wanted to just go back to the credit market again and wanted to get your perspective on what you're seeing from, you know, fintech customers. And it seems just from your commentary that maybe marketing revenues seem to have accelerated on the credit side of the equation. So, you know, we'd love to get some perspective on that, sort of the puts and takes around marketing versus portfolio monitoring, sort of what you're seeing from your customers broadly and FinTech in particular?
spk07: Okay. Yeah, happy to focus on that. You know, I'd say trading conditions for the FinTechs are largely unchanged between the quarters. We see certainly reduced activity from prior years where, you know, their growth had really accelerated, but a lot of stability and resilience in the sector. they are still originating loans, albeit at a lower level, and they're more selective than they were previously. I don't think we've seen a distinct shift toward marketing and customer acquisition in either the fintechs or, frankly, consumer lending in the broad, right? There is more caution and there's more sensitivity to risk, which has – reduced overall marketing and acquisition activity. That said, there's still a good level of lending activity. There's certainly ample consumer appetite for loans because the consumer remains pretty healthy. And as long as that's the case, the market's going to find a way to fulfill that demand. And again, I think it's important, again, to provide some context. While In 22, in the first half of the year, the FinTechs and consumer lending in general was booming. We saw that diminish in the second half of the year, and we still have kind of steady-as-she-goes outlook for FinTechs for the remainder of this year. But with that said, the business is still up 75% over the last three years, and we view that as something to be excited about, not concerned about.
spk04: Thank you.
spk12: Our next question comes from Andrew Steinerman of J.P. Morgan. Go ahead.
spk01: Hi. Going back to slide six, New Star, could you just be a little more specific and tell us what's driving the strong bookings, renewals, and usage, and is there a joint product roadmap yet between New Star and TransUnion? Yes.
spk07: Happy to elaborate on that. You know, first of all, I would say across the three product areas of marketing, risk, and communications, you know, we've had strong growth in each of those areas, and we are looking to accelerate growth in the third and the fourth quarter to reach, you know, the full year high single digits guide. As I said in my commentary, we've had strong renewals with big customers. We are ramping the revenues from big customer wins last year. We continue to sell well. And so there's a lot of positive indicators that give us confidence in that new star high single-digit guy. And, yes, we absolutely are executing on our cross-sell and on our integrated product development in very meaningful ways. In prior calls, I've talked, I think, extensively about the benefits of NewStars technology, the OneID platform that they developed, which we have adopted and rebranded as OneTrue and is becoming the integrated data acquisition, management, and analytics platform for TransUnion across multiple geographies and multiple markets. We'll continue to roll that out. We've firmly proven the concept that we can do it. So, yeah, the integration is going well on multiple levels. I think on the selling side, you know, we integrated the sales forces in the first year, and they're very comfortable, and their knowledge of the broader product line is increasing, and their comfort cross-selling is increasing, and we are seeing improvement. Now, clearly, Andrew, more work to do and a lot of upside there, so we're going to continue to push hard. But we do have integrated sales. product development or multi-generational product plans in each of their product lines between the two companies. Thank you, Chris.
spk12: Our next question comes from Tony Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Go ahead.
spk05: Thanks so much. I wanted to ask maybe one more question on the sort of true work and verification So, ultimately, you know, where do you see this going for you? You know, is your strategy really to try to compete head-to-head with Equifax now? I know historically because of, you know, being sort of newer and smaller in that part of the business, like you had sort of had this niche strategy there. So I guess what is the new strategy there, and where are the real differentiators that you see for Truer and your combination? Thanks.
spk07: Yeah, sure. Again, look, I have to acknowledge that, you know, Equifax has a very strong business in the space. We all understand that. However, I think the market will support multiple competitors in the space at different – you know, in different niches. And so when you take on a strong and entrenched competitor like this, you're looking for an opportunity to penetrate the market. You know, the market, I think, is hungry for alternatives and for a variety of competitive factors. I think it's healthy for the market. I think it's good for consumers. And I think TrueWork has demonstrated that they have a value proposition that can sell that they are scaling the business and that the distribution partnership with us is going to be significantly additive to that. So, you know, we're working on growing this beachhead that they have established, and we can grow it in a variety of ways from, you know, adding records to increasing, you to deeper and more meaningful penetration into transunion products so they can ride our rails into our clients, et cetera. And we're just going to continue to fight the fight, and there's really not a strategic change.
spk12: Thank you. Our next question comes from Andrew Nicholas with William Blair.
spk08: Please go ahead. Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I wanted to circle back to New Star, maybe a multi-part question here, if you will. The first is, is the 6% growth essentially what you were expecting for the second quarter? And then the second part is just on kind of medium-term growth outlook there. I know the target when you announced the deal was to eventually get to double-digit growth. I'm just wondering if that's still the target, and to what extent do you need a supportive macro to get there? Thank you.
spk07: Yeah, well, 6% growth in NuSTAR in the second quarter is right on plan. And the plan for NuSTAR over the course of 23 was accelerating revenues based on the strength of the bookings and the implementations. The bookings from 22 and the implementations ramping over the course of 23. And that is playing out, you know, as planned. We still expect to get to high single digits for NuSTAR in total by the end of the year. Now back to the guidance, the initial guide. Yes, indeed, you know, we did expect for the business to be executing in the low double-digit, you know, organic revenue range a couple of years after acquisition. You know, that is still our expectation. for the potential of this business over the longer term. But again, we are facing more challenging conditions overall economically, but certainly in terms of marketing and advertising spend than when we first provided that guidance. So right now we're really focused on achieving high single digit and sustaining that in the foreseeable future. And Chris, I would just add on to that that just
spk09: underscore the point that New Star has performed to our expectations through the first half. And the second point that I think is important to understand is that this business is expected to be the fastest grower in our U.S. markets business in 2023. So it gets to the question on the growth rates. Chris just said, We put 3% growth up in Q1, 6% up in Q2. You can do the math as far as how high single digits gets there. We have good visibility in the Q3, Q4, and it should be at a higher rate than what you see.
spk07: Yeah, those are good ads. And too early to guide for 24. We're still focused on hitting 23. The other ad, I guess, is that the integration savings program continues right on target. And as we grow revenue and we take costs out of the business, you know, we're going to progress toward those long-term margin objectives for New Star as well. Great. Thank you both.
spk12: Our next question comes from Ashish Sabhadra of RBC Capital Markets. Go ahead.
spk00: Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to focus on the EBITDA margin. The 3Q guidance implies a significant improvement both sequentially and year-on-year EBITDA margin expansion, but the implied fourth quarter margins, which if my math is right, around 39%, implies another sequential improvement. And I was wondering if you could talk about the drivers for that improvement. Are there one-time things, or is that how we should think about a jump-off point as we get into 2024? Thanks.
spk09: Ashish, thanks for the question. So as far as our outlook for adjusted EBITDA is concerned, needless to say, I think the appropriate place to start is with our revenue guidance, right? And so if you look at the guide that we put out there, obviously maintaining, if you look at that from the high end of our guidance range, we are expecting incrementally more dollars to arrive from a revenue perspective in the second half. Seasonality is a big factor, you know, of that. So Q3 is typically one of TransUnion's highest revenue quarters on a historical basis and in normal non-pandemic times. So you can see that in the guide that there's incremental dollars, you know, that are assumed from a revenue perspective. And that's going to drive a nice amount of flow through, you know, into our adjusted EBITDA margin. The second, you know, thing that I would say is that, you know, the new start cost synergies that Chris just alluded to in the previous question, they continue to build for us and provide a very meaningful benefit. So that will definitely be a driver for us as well. And coming back to the first question that we got just in talking about the uncertainty that we face in the business, in response to that, the organization over the last year plus has prudently managed expenses. And we've been focused only on the most critical hires. We've pulled back on our travel and entertainment and looked for other one-time spend to be able to pull out of you know, out of our operating expense run rate. So all of those forces are also in effect as well. And then the final point I would make is if you think about Chris's opening remarks and where we covered the global capability centers provides a very meaningful benefit to trans unions. And that's why we felt it was appropriate, you know, to provide that update in a little bit more detail this quarter. So that's definitely another another driver for us as well too.
spk07: Yeah, and I think that's all spot on. And I think just to amplify that last point, you know, centralizing operations and building out our global capability centers has been a big part of globalizing this company, but also making it structurally more profitable. And that's why we put a spotlight on the march that we've been on for the past five years now. And we think there's more opportunity. We're gonna stay the course there and take full advantage of it. We also think there's opportunity and time to become structurally more efficient on the technology side. And as we continue our migration through Project Rise to the cloud, with considerable standardization along the way, that will then create an opportunity for us to consolidate the tech stack further and produce some further efficiencies there as well. So, you know, we're on a multi-year path here to get our margins back to where they were before the acquisitions. That's our commitment to investors. And it's a combination of the near-term things that Todd talked about, but also the strategic backdrops. that we've been investing in for many years.
spk00: That's great. Thanks. Thank you.
spk12: Our next question comes from Andrew Jeffrey of Truist Securities.
spk13: Go ahead. Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I'm wondering specifically, Chris, in the trusted call solutions part of your business, can you talk about sort of where – those wins are coming from, are they coming from internal solutions? So from, from whom are you taking share and what are the pricing characteristics of those contracts?
spk07: Okay. Well, let me, let me shed some more light on that. What I would say is that, you know, trusted call solutions is a relatively new solution to the market. And again, I mean, New Star over the past four or five years has taken it from zero to where it is today. I think we've got it on the specific dollars, but it's already been a considerable success. So don't think of this as us taking share from established players. This is an innovation that they brought to market that we're scaling. We're having success selling it across all of our vertical markets, frankly. And, you know, knock wood here, Thus far, it's been the easiest cross-sell that's come out of this TransUnion and NuSTAR combination. We view Trusted Call Solutions as it's a product that straddles both marketing effectiveness, which is a major strategic push for us, but also risk mitigation. And, again, it's based on the broad and unique phone intelligence that NuStar has always had at its core that goes all the way back to Targus Info. And we think there's a lot of growth upside. So it has been, from a revenue perspective, a nice positive to our M&A case since we bought the business, and we are focused on investing and accelerating and further scaling it. I appreciate that. Thank you.
spk12: Our next question comes from Heather Belsky of Bank of America. Please go ahead.
spk03: Hi. Thank you for taking my question. I was curious about the insurance business and the trends you saw in the quarter and how to think about the improvement for the rest of the year. Shopping is improving. Marketing hasn't started to ramp just yet. What are you hearing? What do you think happens with marketing as the year progresses? Thanks.
spk07: Yeah, I think those are some fair insights, Heather. And what I'll say about insurance is that we expect the growth rate in insurance to accelerate in the second half. We're happy that we've already seen some improvement in the second quarter. I'll remind you that the third quarter of last year and even the fourth quarter, to a lesser extent for insurance, were quite muted because marketing activity, client acquisition activity, just came to a grinding halt because of the mismatch between the pricing and repair and replacement costs at P&C carriers. As we updated you last call, the carriers are making good progress in getting price increases from the various states. I think, and they say, that there's still a bit more work to do, but we're approaching a point where they can initiate new business again with more confidence. And so with that, I'd expect some improving trends on the marketing activities. Whether it goes back to the same level of frothiness or how long it takes to get to that point, it remains to be seen. But given the material price increases that they've had to put through on their customers, There's an acceleration in shopping behavior, which has helped our numbers as well. So we've got some pretty reasonable confidence that we're going to accelerate in insurance over the second half of the year, and hopefully that will set us up for a nice guide in 24-2.
spk11: Great. Thanks, Chris. And given that we're now at the bottom of the hour, we want to be respectful of everyone's time on what we know is a busy day of earnings in this space. We're going to close down the call, but thank you, everyone, very much for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you over the course of the quarter. All the best.
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