Sixth Street Specialty Lending, Inc.

Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call

11/2/2022

spk00: Good day and welcome to the 6th Street Specialty Lending, Inc. 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during the session, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker. Ms. Cami Van Horn, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
spk10: Thank you. Before we begin today's call, I would like to remind our listeners that remarks made during the call may contain forward-looking statements. Statements other than statements of historical facts made during this call may constitute forward-looking statements and are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve a number of risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements as a result of a number of factors, including those described from time to time in Sixth Street Specialty Lending Inc's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The company assumes no obligation to update any such forward-looking statements. Yesterday, after the market closed, We issued our earnings press release for the third quarter ended September 30th, 2022, and posted a presentation to the investor resources section of our website, www.sixstreetspecialtylending.com. The presentation should be reviewed in conjunction with our Form 10-Q filed yesterday with the SEC. Sixth Street Specialty Lending, Inc.' 's earnings release is also available on our website under the investor resources section. Unless noted otherwise, all performance figures mentioned in today's prepared remarks are as of and for the third quarter ended September 30th, 2022. As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I will now turn the call over to Joshua Easterly, Chief Executive Officer of Sixth Street Specialty Lending, Inc.
spk06: Thank you, Cami. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me today is my partner and our president, Bo Stanley, and our CFO, Ian Simmons. For our call today, I will review this quarter's results and then pass over to Bo to discuss our origination, activity, and portfolio. Ian will review our quarterly financial results in more detail, and I will conclude with final remarks before opening the call to Q&A. After market closed yesterday, we posted third quarter financial results with adjusted net investment income per share of 47 cents, corresponding to an annualized return on equity of 11.5%, and adjusted net income per share of 43 cents, or an annualized return on equity of 10.6%. For the second consecutive quarter, our board has increased our quarterly base dividend, raising this figure by approximately 7.1% or 3 cents per share to 45 cents per share to shareholders of record as of December 15th and payable on December 30th. By the way, I hope people can hear me now. This quarter's net investment income and the rise in our base dividend was driven by an increase in the core earnings power of our portfolio. As we previewed in prior quarters, we're now seeing the positive asset sensitivity from higher base rates impacting core earnings. Since we reported last quarter, the forward curve has steepened, resulting in core earnings in excess of what we previously anticipated. Over the last five years, the rolling four-quarter dividend coverage on our core earnings, core earnings defined as excluding all activity-based income, averaging 102%. At the new quarterly base dividend level of 45 cents per share, we expect our core earnings to exceed this level and highlights the significant influence that all in yields has had in the core earnings generating ability for a portfolio. Based on the enhanced levels of the dividend coverage that we anticipate extending through 2023, and an understanding of our anticipated leverage levels, our board felt comfortable raising the quarterly dividend. As the operating environment continues to evolve, the board will continue to evaluate further increases on a quarterly basis. This is consistent with our philosophy of establishing a base dividend level that we have a high degree of confidence in meeting each period and maximizing the efficiency of our capital base. While the base dividend level in Q3 was well covered through core earnings, no supplemental dividend was declared related to Q3 earnings given the NAV limiter in our distribution framework, which serves to retain capital and stabilize net asset value. The revised level of our quarterly base dividend increases the quarterly book dividend yield to 11% from our prior quarterly annualized book dividend yield of 10.3%. Our supplemental dividend framework remains in place, allowing for the opportunity to increase book dividend yields with future supplemental dividends. Rounding out the earnings summary, the four cents per share difference between this quarter's net investment income and net income was due to unrealized losses, primarily from wider market spreads, and not as a result of material changes in the underlying credit quality of our investments. As Beau will discuss, the performance of our portfolio has remained strong. Growth in our reported net asset value per share from 1627 to 1636 was primarily driven by the creative impact of issuing shares to sell the majority of our 2022 convertible notes, which matured in August. As you may recall from our conference call and the accompanying letter we published last quarter, our valuation framework includes the impact of market spreads movements into the valuation of our portfolio, adjusting for the expected weighted average life and other idiosyncratic factors. Spread widening and lower implied equity values during this quarter resulted in approximately 5 cents per share of unrealized losses, thereby partially offsetting the increase in net asset value we experienced from the combination of accretion from the notes conversion and earnings above our base dividend levels. Turning now to a few thoughts on the current environment. We are seven months into the rate hiking cycle and the Fed has increased rates 300 basis points year-to-date with the expectation of more to come. Despite this being the most rapid rate increasing cycle since the 1970s, it feels like we're in the mid-innings as corporates and consumers, two of the three main sectors of the economy, remain in a position of strength. In our view, the key to taming inflation will be real demand destruction, which we anticipate will be long, which will be a long battle for a number of important reasons. First, overstimulus during the pandemic coupled with decades of low rates, low inflation, and increasing asset prices has resulted in strong corporate and consumer balance sheets and excess household savings for consumers. Second, while interest rate increases continue, consumers have been somewhat insulated to date from the immediate impact as mortgages are fixed in nature rather than floating rate or adjustable, and wage growth has remained strong in an environment of historically low unemployment. This latter aspect has helped offset the effect of inflation on the levels of consumption. Third, given the Fed's ability to pivot is compromised by their need to tame inflation, it seems that the only way to create real demand destruction is through a rise in unemployment, which likely begins once we see decline in nominal corporate earnings. As quantitative tightening continues and monetary policy feeds through with its usual lag, the impact of rising rates will be felt differently across asset classes. Risky assets will likely struggle in an environment where the Fed keeps financial conditions tight. Returns for long-duration assets such as tech and biotech equities have been more meaningfully and negatively impacted by movement in rates as small moves result in large changes to the net present value of future cash flows. On the other hand, private credit, and more specifically our portfolio, is predominantly compromised with shorter-duration assets and not sensitive to change in rates and less sensitive to widening risk premiums given the ability to reprice those assets every two to three years. The benefit to our portfolio of holding floating rate short duration assets and rising rate and spread environment is fundamentally dependent, however, upon credit selection and active portfolio management. We believe these factors will ultimately be what drives the dispersion returns across the sector over time. Given our track record through COVID, 11 years of investing through SOX, and 25 years since our first direct lending investment, we feel well-positioned to navigate the uncertainty, uncertain macro environment, and take advantage of the opportunity set that it presents. With that, I'll turn it over to Beau to discuss this quarter's origination activity and portfolio.
spk07: Thanks, Josh. Let me first provide our thoughts on the current direct lending environment and how our business is positioned to serve borrowers as well as stakeholders for the period ahead. The volatility experience across nearly every asset class year-to-date has only underscored the value proposition of private credit for borrowers. New issue leverage loan volumes are down 86% in Q3 relative to the same period last year, and high yield volumes year-to-date reached its lowest level since 2008. In addition to the limited number of deals getting done in the public credit markets, we are also seeing a pullback from banks as they focus on satisfying regulatory-driven capital ratio requirements. Given these dynamics, there has been an increasing number of borrowers and sponsors turning to the direct lending market, including those seeking larger financings. We believe this broadening of the opportunity set is a net positive for our sector and specifically for our business and our stakeholders, given our ability to be a solutions provider at scale through co-investments with our affiliated funds. With fewer financing options available for borrowers, we're seeing a shift towards a more lender-friendly environment. Not only are we seeing higher overall yields driven by higher base rates, spreads have also widened as well. During Q3, LCD first lien and second lien spreads widened by 10 and 152 basis points, respectively. We are also seeing issuers willing to pay higher fees in order to get deals across the finish line, which allows us to pick our spots and remain selective. With these deal dynamics likely to persist for some time, we believe our ability to play offense in this environment, given our strong balance sheet positioning, will allow us to be a valuable partner to our sponsor and management teams In addition to generating attractive risk adjusted returns for our stakeholders. While we recognize that the terms are moving in a more lender friendly direction, there is no free lunch. On the opposite side of the coin, borrowers of many leveraged credit issuers are feeling pressure from sustained inflation, higher interest rates on the debt obligations, and a very tight labor market. Similar to our approach during COVID, we are actively monitoring our portfolio companies by staying in close communication with management teams so we're able to respond quickly when necessary if credit quality issues look likely to arise. Based on the ongoing real-time conversations we're having with our borrowers, however, we feel very good about the health and positioning of our current portfolio as we continue to be largely invested at the top of the capital structure and software and business services sector that provide mission-critical products and solutions to their customers. Moving to originations activity, we had $385 million of commitments and $274 million of fundings across seven new investments, six upsizes to existing portfolio companies, and some small incremental allocations to structured credit investments during the quarter. We've mentioned in prior quarters that our pipeline was building leading into the back half of the year, and this quarter's new funding, along with our expectations for Q4 funding activities, continue to support that view. Several of our new investments in Q3 reflected the evolution we're seeing in the direct lending market of larger financings as fewer borrowers are able to access the traditional BSL market to meet their capital requirements. In August, we aged and enclosed a $375 million term loan commitment to support an operational turnaround by Bed Bath & Beyond. As access to traditional sources of capital has become more constrained, our ability to invest alongside affiliated funds allowed us to be a valuable solutions provider for the company during a time of need. Given the transactional complexity, we were able to drive better pricing and terms, which supports robust asset level yields. Additionally, our expertise in the retail ABL space allowed us to underwrite the investment with speed and certainty based on our years of experience executing on this theme. Since commencing investment operations, Bed Bath & Beyond represents the 25th retail ABL transaction that we've completed with a total of $1.1 billion of capital deployed in SLX through the strategy. At quarter end, our retail ABL exposure increased to 8.4% of the portfolio on a fair value basis. Also this quarter, alongside affiliated funds, we agent and enclosed a $535 million senior secured credit facility to support Bain Capital's acquisition of Lean Toss. We believe that Bed Bath and Lean Toss are both examples of how the scale of the Sixth Street platform allows us to source and underwrite strong risk-adjusted returns across both the sponsored and non-sponsored landscape. Our investment pieces in Lean Toss was supported by an inherently sticky underlying product in the software space, resulting in high-quality recurring revenue base that is increasingly important in this current environment. This investment reflects our continued focus on software and business services themes that comprise of 78% of our portfolio on a fair value basis at quarter end. Given our familiarity in this space and our balance sheet flexibility, we're able to provide a level of deal customization that sets us apart from our competition. On the repayment side, wider spreads have led to a slowdown in refinancing activity, resulting in less portfolio turnover over the last couple of quarters. We had one full and one partial investment realization, totaling approximately $16 million in Q3. Our full investment realization of the Mississippi resources was related to the proceeds available from dissolving the business. We received our final distribution at the end of September, and the remaining debt was repaid, resulting in a small realized gain. Since quarter end, Frontline and Biohaven, our two largest portfolio companies based on fair value as of 9.30 were repaid during the first week of October, given by previously announced M&A. As of quarter end, our weighted average mark on Biohaven was 110, reflecting the impact of the anticipated fees embedded in our underlying exposure to this portfolio company that has since been crystallized in 11 cents per share of activity-based fees, which will flow through investment income in Q4. Our weighted average yield on debt and income-producing securities at amortized cost was up to 12.2% from 10.9% quarter-over-quarter and is up about 200 basis points from a year ago. The weighted average yield at amortized costs on new investments, including upsizes this quarter, was 12.6% compared to a yield of 10% on investments partially paid down. Moving on to portfolio composition and credit stats, across our core borrowers from whom these metrics are relevant, we continue to have a conservative weighted average attached and detached point on our loans at 1x and 4.4x respectively, and their weighted average interest covers remain stable at 2.6 times. As of Q3 2022, the weighted average revenue in EBITDA of our core portfolio companies was $149 million and $44 million respectively. The performance rating of our portfolio continues to be strong, with a weighted average rating of 1.12 on a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being the strongest, representing a positive change from last quarter's rating of 1.13. After the realization of Mississippi resources during the quarter, we have only one portfolio company on non-accrual representing less than 0.01% of the portfolio at fair value, with no new names added to non-accrual during Q3. The strength and improvement of these metrics quarter over quarter illustrates our competence in the underlying credit quality of our portfolio. With that, I'd like to turn it over to Ian to cover this quarter's financial results in more detail.
spk05: Thank you, Beau. For Q3, we generated adjusted net investment income per share of 47 cents and adjusted net income per share of 43 cents. At quarter end, total investments reached $2.8 billion, up from $2.5 billion in the prior quarter as a result of net funding activity. Total principal debt outstanding at quarter end was $1.5 billion, and net assets were $1.3 billion, or $16.36 per share. Our average debt-to-equity ratio increased quarter over quarter from 0.9 times to 1.15 times, and our debt-to-equity ratio at September 30 was 1.16 times. The increase was driven by portfolio growth from new investments during the quarter combined with minimal repayment activity. As Bo previewed, the repayment activity we experienced in the first week of Q4 brought our debt to equity ratio down to approximately 1.05 times. Before diving into more detail on our quarterly results, I would like to highlight the strength of our liquidity, funding profile, and capital position. As we head into the remainder of the year, our liquidity position remains robust with $846 million of unfunded revolver capacity at quarter end against $184 million of unfunded portfolio company commitments eligible to be drawn. And our funding mix at quarter end comprised 52% unsecured debt and 48% secured debt. Our balance sheet positioning was further enhanced post-quarter end from the payoff of our position in Biohaven and Frontline totaling approximately $146 million. Pro forma for these payoffs, which were the two largest positions in our portfolio at quarter end, we have close to $1 billion of liquidity. On top of the activity-based fees earned, these payoffs also increase our capital base by creating incremental investment capacity for new deployment opportunities into a more appealing investment environment. The accretive equity issuance that occurred at the beginning of August relating to the conversion of maturing convertible notes resulted in the issuance of approximately 4.4 million shares, providing us with additional balance sheet flexibility during a time when capital has generally become more constrained across the sector. One aspect of our balance sheet that is different this quarter is that we no longer show a dividend payable at quarter end. This is as a result of the change we discussed on our last quarterly earnings call bring forward the payment date of our quarterly based dividends to occur on the last business day of the quarter. The most recent base dividend payment date was September 30. Hence, the dividend that had previously been declared for Q3 dividends was paid to shareholders. That will be the case in future periods as well. During September, our 10b51 stock repurchase program was triggered, resulting in repurchases of $3 million, which represents approximately 180,000 shares and an average price of $16.62. The existence of this program is consistent with our objective of allocating capital to accretive opportunities for our shareholders, and we will continue to prioritize capital efficiency throughout this ongoing volatile and uncertain environment. Yesterday, our board renewed this program and reset the total size to $50 million. Given the premium on capital availability and the more compelling new investment environment that Bo spoke about earlier, our program trigger will be reset to activate at one penny below the most recent reported net asset value per share. Moving to our presentation materials, slide eight contains this quarter's NAV bridge. Walking through the main drivers of NAV growth, we added 47 cents per share from adjusted net investment income against our base dividend of 42 cents per share. There was a positive 8 cents per share impact from the conversion of the convertible notes that were settled primarily through an equity issuance above net asset value. There were negative impacts from changes in credit spreads on the valuation of our portfolio amounting to 5 cents per share, And finally, movement in foreign exchange rates drove unrealized losses on our foreign currency denominated investments, which were offset by unrealized gains on our foreign currency denominated debt outstanding. It's worth spending a moment on the financial statement presentation of our foreign currency denominated investments, as this can cause some confusion. Our philosophy when funding foreign currency investments is to borrow the par amount of that investment in local currency through our multi-currency revolving credit facility. This gives us both an asset and a liability denominated in local currency. Therefore, any movement in the FX rates applying to that investment impacts both the asset side and the liability side of our balance sheet in an equal but offsetting way. In the schedule of investments, depending on the movement of the relevant foreign currency relative to the U.S. dollar, this can appear as though the valuation mark has declined when the U.S. dollar strengthens. However, it's important to note that movement in the fair market value of an investment due to changes in foreign currency rates is distinct and separate from a change in the valuation mark caused by credit or widening spreads. Looking at the limited number of foreign currency denominated investments we hold in isolation without including the offsetting impact from the foreign currency liability can therefore lead to an incorrect conclusion. To use a specific example, let's look at a Canadian borrower in our schedule of investments, ASEO Solutions Inc. where we hold a first lien term loan. The valuation market quarter end is 101.0. At the end of Q2, the valuation mark on ASEO was 101.25. So from a credit perspective, there's been very limited movement quarter on quarter. Over that same period, however, the fair market value as a percentage of cost has fallen from 104.2 to 97.5. representing a significantly larger decrease in value than that represented by the limited decrease in the valuation mark. For ASEO, this divergence was the impact of the strengthening U.S. dollar over the period. Taking into account our natural hedge created by borrowing in local currency, the value of our Canadian dollar debt expressed in U.S. dollar terms decreased in an equal and offsetting way over the same period. At quarter end, the fair value of our foreign currency-denominated investments represented approximately 4.6% of our portfolio. None of those investments are on non-accrual status, and each of the investments was rated 1, consistent with that of the overall portfolio that Beau referenced earlier. Now for our operating results detail on slide nine, total investment income for the quarter was 77.8 million, up 22% from 69.3 million in the prior quarter, driven by increased all-in yields and net funding activity. Walking through the components of the income, interest and dividend income was $74.7 million, up 26% from the prior quarter. Other fees representing prepayment fees and accelerated amortization of upfront fees from unscheduled paydowns were lower at $429,000 compared to $3.2 million in Q2, given the lower impact on income measures from repayment activity that we highlighted earlier. Other income was $2.7 million, up from $1.6 million in the prior quarter. Net expenses, excluding the impact of the non-cash reversal of capital gains incentive fees, were $40.3 million, up from $31.4 million in the prior quarter. This was primarily due to higher interest expense on higher average outstanding indebtedness, the upward movement in reference rates, which increased our weighted average interest rate on average debt outstanding from 3.1% to 4.3%, and higher incentive fees as a result of this quarter's over-earnings. Before turning it back to Josh, I'd like to briefly provide an update on our ROEs. The two main drivers of our performance on an ROE basis have been the strength of our all-in yield on assets and our ability to avoid credit losses since inception. We have actually generated net realized capital gains. At the beginning of this year, we communicated an annualized ROE target of 11 to 11.5% based on our expectations over the intermediate term for our net asset level yield, cost of funds, and financial leverage. Here today, we've generated an annualized ROE on adjusted net investment income of 11%. Given the strength of our investment pipeline, continued positive impact from higher all-in yields, and our expectations for fee-related activity for the remainder of the year, including the 11 cents per share of fees that were crystallized in October from the payoff of Biohaven that we mentioned earlier, we believe we are on pace to exceed the top end of our previously stated target range for 2022 NII per share of $1.84 to $1.92. This implies Q4 NII in excess of 54 cents per share and a full year ROE on adjusted net investment income of greater than 11.5%. With that, I'd like to turn it back to Josh for concluding remarks.
spk06: Thank you, Ian. As we all know, periods of economic uncertainty present both significant risks and significant opportunities. On the opportunity side, These movements of volatility and market dislocation result in a shift away in the opportunity set from M&A to an opportunity set that requires private capital to be creative solution providers. Given our capabilities and expertise in the specialty lending situations, we believe we have built an all-cycle business model that is well-positioned to take advantage of this shift in the operating landscape. We know that the best vintages are often underwritten in these times of uncertainty, and we're ready to take advantage of the opportunities set ahead. Although I shared bearish views on the broader macroeconomic backdrop, I remain bullish in our ability to underwrite robust with adjusted asset level returns and generate strong, consistent return on ROEs for our stakeholders. Over the last five years, in a largely benign credit environment, in the last five years, a largely benign credit environment still resulted in a wide dispersion in returns generated by managers in this sector, mostly driven by dispersion in credit costs. This is evidenced by the net realized losses of 100 to 150 basis points on an annualized basis in the sector based on Cliffwater's direct lending index over the trailing five-year period through Q2 2022 compared to net realized gains for SOX over the same period. We believe that this version will only expand as the operating backdrop becomes more complex. As rates continue to rise, managers spend a lot of time talking about the impact from increasing rates and asset sensitivity. While rising rates will be beneficial to the sector in the near term, long-term outperformance is ultimately driven by the ability to avoid credit costs through the cycle. We believe we will continue to achieve this by following our same playbook that resulted in cumulative net realized gains since inception. As one of our favorite bands once put it, nothing else matters. I'm sure Metallica will appreciate the call out on our earnings call today. As the year is coming to an end, I want to wish everyone a wonderful holiday season ahead with their friends and loved ones. We look forward to a busy and productive remainder of the year, and thank you for your continued support throughout the uncertain world we're living in today. Operator, please open up the line for questions.
spk00: Thank you. As a reminder, to ask a question, you will need to press star 1-1 on your telephone. We ask that you please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up question. You may then return to the queue. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question will come from Jordan Wasson, Orphanian O'Shea with Wells Fargo.
spk09: Hi, it's Jordan. I'm a locker friend today. You mentioned lean toss in your prepared remarks. We noticed that had a bigger chunk of lay draws versus funded this quarter. And we've heard that the delayed draws have kind of been harder to come by for borrowers. So I'm just curious on how you characterize that. Is that a way for you to compete on terms? Are you picking up more economics for, you know, making that extension here in the present?
spk06: Just any color you could add on that. Thanks. And tough and hello for us. And again, sorry for the technical difficulties this morning. I think I was idiosyncratic to lean toss. I think part of it was driven by competition and structuring considerations. I think the general comment that delayed draw term loans are more difficult in this environment to come by is most definitely true. That transaction was earlier in the pipeline. And quite frankly, for us, I think in this environment, we'd rather have we'd rather hold less unfunded forward commitments and drive to funding to drive economics in this environment. So I think that the observation was true. That deal was, you know, there was some idiosyncratic considerations, and it was much earlier in the pipeline and the environment.
spk09: Okay. And then just more generally on the market, we just saw with Emerson a deal that, Kind of more closely matched to the old school bank, personally, and private where a private credit kind of took the backseat behind the bank.
spk06: So, for your that's that's that's the wrong assumption. It's just just I, the Emerson terminal and a terminal and B are very pursue. And so there is no backseat. To the, to the bank, I think that was a. the wrong conclusion. It's not a silo. It's not a first lien, second lien. It's Perry Pursuit Capital, where the banks are holding it on balance sheets. And basically, the only difference is amortization. But it's Perry Pursuit Capital structure with the terminal B having a much higher spread. to the private credit markets. And so I think Blackstone was figure out a way to effectively use their relationships with banks to where they could figure out how banks could have given me some amortization, piece of paper that worked for him in this environment, given returns on capital, and then the marginal capital from the private credit market, which was Perry Pursue, priced much wider. So I think the assumption is a false assumption, which is it's not backseat, it's not a filo, it's all Perry Pursue debt.
spk09: That's good to hear. Thanks for clarifying that, and that's it for me today.
spk00: Thank you. And one moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Kevin Fultz with JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
spk04: Hi. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. You know, Beau touched on this a bit in his prepared remarks, but I just wanted to dig in a bit into the investment landscape a bit more. You know, given the evolution of market conditions over the past two to three quarters, I'm curious if you could talk about how that has translated to deal pricing leverage or improved documentation in deals that you're originating right now compared to six to 12 months ago.
spk06: Yeah, look, I'll let Bo handle. Let me hit on Emerson because I think Emerson is a great example of that. Not to get into details, but get in general direction. That term loan B on Emerson, my guess would have been in a broadly syndicated market. It is an unbelievable good credit. And with a good capital structure, it probably would have had two to two and a half turns wider of first lien debt and would have been priced 300 basis points tighter compared to the term loan B. And so just on Emerson, you had that first lien had two to two and a half turns less of debt with significantly wider pricing. That to me is a really good example of really tightening underwriting standards and wider spread. And again, the marginal capital in that deal was the private credit market, which really drove returns in this market. So, I don't know if you have anything to add.
spk07: No, that's spot on. You know, we continue to see support for better underwriting standards in the form of higher spreads. I think those higher spreads are anywhere in the range from 100 to 200 basis points plus from what we saw for comparable, you know, comparable businesses just six to 12 months ago, you're seeing also a turn to two turns of leverage come down and better documentation in the form of less leakage, you know, inability to layer in more data, et cetera. So all across the board, you're seeing stronger underwriting standards, you know, particularly in this, you know, larger end of the market.
spk04: Okay. That's really helpful, Culler. And then just one more if I can. You were relatively active, again, this quarter investing in CLO notes. Clearly, it's a small portion of the portfolio in aggregate, but still one that's growing. Can you talk a bit about the opportunity you're seeing investing in CLOs, how much capital you're willing to put to work there, and if you view these investments as buy and hold or more short-term in nature? Sure.
spk06: We've always used it as a, you know, we're not traders. We've always used it as a barometer for relative value. We still think there's really strong relative value given the loss taking ability and CLOs, which imply for you to lose money where we're investing in those securities, you have to have like one and a half to two times that you saw in the global financial crisis. And there are BBB to BBB securities that yield similar to what you think about with the discount, similar to private credit. So we think that's a great relative value investment. And again, it's a relatively small part of our portfolio. A relatively small part of our portfolio.
spk04: Okay. I'll leave it there. Congratulations on the quarter.
spk00: Thanks. Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Ken Lee with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. You mentioned the prepared remarks, having constant conversations with the portfolio company management teams. Wondering if you could just talk a little bit more about, you know, what you're seeing in terms of any kind of amendment activity in the most recent quarter. Thanks.
spk06: Yeah. Josh, look, the great thing about private credit is you get to have these dialogues. We had no material amendment activity this quarter. And so it's been – it was a really, really benign – the portfolio was in really, really good shape. it was a very, very benign levels of activity on amendments and waivers. And I think that speaks to the portfolio and that quality portfolio, which we've built, which mostly is when you think about the nature of our business, I think like 78 to 80% has been of existing portfolio relates to software and business services that have recurring revenue and variable cost structures. And so it was a, again, no material, you know, amendments and waivers this quarter.
spk01: Gotcha. Very helpful. And just one follow-up, if I may. In terms of the debt paydowns, you know, you saw a slowdown in the quarter. And you cited just the environment, you know, driving that. What, in your view, you know, what could potentially drive a potential pickup in terms of pay down activity at some point? Or would you expect, you know, relatively dampened activity just in the near term given the macro backdrop? Thanks.
spk06: Yeah. Thanks, Ken. So let me answer your question. I think this is a really important thing for people to understand. Look, pay downs, typically drive activity-based income, and that tends to be lumpy over the, you know, over the year or quarter per quarter. We had two large paydowns at the end of the quarter, at the, sorry, the beginning of Q4, which was literally, I think, October 1st, or October 3 and 4, but right the first week of October. By the way, that will drive about $0.11 per share of activity-based income in the Q4. By the way, that could have happened in Q3. So it's really hard to tell when that happens. But this has most definitely been a benign, not shockingly, a benign year for portfolio turnover given the widening credit spread environment. And so what you would typically see is in a tightening credit spread environment or an environment where you have looser underwriting standards, which I think means lower volatility or lower macro volatility, that you would see the portfolio churn pick up. The last point I would make is historically we've earned somewhere between 98 to 105% of bank coverage from core earnings. When we define core earnings, I think that's different than what other people do in the industry like Gary's, but we define it as just really interest income and interest income from regularly amortization of low ID. And that's been 98% to 102% coverage on our dividend. I think with the increased raise of our dividend by 7%, our coverage is actually greater than our historical environment from core just pure interest income. So I think in an environment where activity levels pick up, we will have, we're pretty well situated given what our balance sheet leverage is to continue to drive interest income that wealth feeds our new dividend, plus we'll have income from activity levels. But that's going to happen in an environment where you have, you know, tightening spreads, loose running writing standards. And then I think specific to us, given some of our business is more special situations, especially lending oriented, that part of the portfolio constantly turns no matter what environment you're in. So hopefully that was a long-winded way to answer your question, but I wanted to use the opportunity to give you the full picture of the earnings, the increased earning power of the business and what really drives income and return on equity for the business.
spk01: No, that was great. That was great, Claudio, and really appreciate the answer there. Thanks again.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. And that will come from the line of Melissa Waddell from JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
spk02: Good morning. Appreciate you taking my questions today. Was curious to get your thoughts on sort of the supply side in private credit. You know, you talked about the increase in demand that you've seen for private credit solutions in this environment. I know in the last few years there's been a lot of capital formation. within the private credit space. At this point, have you seen a lot of that capital deployed, or is there still a lot of competition amongst peers for that?
spk06: Yeah. So, look, the way I would frame it is, and it's pretty clear, that check sizes have come significantly down for some large private creditors large private credit credit investors in this space and so you once all people writing 500 to 2 billion dollar checks that are writing you know significantly less today and so i would say the we live in a market where the on a go-forward basis where the demand for credit will be somewhat less, and that opportunity set is changing. So it's changing from M&A and buyout and recaps to there will be still some of that, but to really, you know, kind of our core specialty lending aspect. And the supply of private credit is also coming significantly down, and so you have seen wider spreads and tightening underwriting standards. And so I think there is, you know, as the economy shrinks or stagnates a little bit, the demand for credit will obviously, you know, be less. But you also are seeing the supply shrink. And you've seen that in the, if you think about it, the equilibrium of that, you see that in widening spreads and tightening underwriting standards. And so I think that's a function of mostly the supply side. And because the demand side emanates down, the demand side shrinking as well. So hopefully that answers it.
spk02: No, that does. That's helpful. Appreciate that. And if we could pivot for a moment to sort of your ABL strategy. I know you touched on one investment that you made during the third quarter, definitely sort of a follow-on from investments that you've made in the past. But when I think back to when you last were really involved, actively involved in originating ABL investments, was a bit of a different environment in a lot of ways, but particularly with regard to inflation. I'm curious if you have to evolve your underwriting or how you approach ABL in a higher inflationary environment. Thanks.
spk06: Yeah, it's a great question. So a little history on our ABL. Look, this is a business we know very, very well, specifically on Bed Bath & Beyond. I think that speaks volumes about our platform, which was And it didn't show up as that material in our P&L, but we originated that investment and sold it above our costs and created syndication income for SLX this quarter. So our ability to deliver the entire platform to deliver in size to an issuer with certainty allowed us to create additional economics and something that worked more than cost. for our investors. So I think people should understand that. I think the environment's most definitely changed. The great thing about those types of structures and loans is that we get to evaluate the value of our collateral in an environment that we're in today, where if there's margin compression, the value of that inventory goes down. And so, and which means what we actually lend on that collateral goes down. And so it's a pretty dynamic way to approach the market. And we've, again, we've been in this market for 20 plus years and we've invested across the cycles and you most definitely have to be macro aware. That being said, there's a mechanism and how we structure these deals and how we think about it, which allows us to adjust our risk dynamically. Is that fair, Mike? Yeah, no, I agree. And the good news is I think that opportunity set's only getting bigger, which is post-COVID, when you think about the world, consumers had a lot of dollars in their pocket. They couldn't spend money on on activities or vacations, so they bought goods, which created an environment where retailers had really, really good balance sheets, high gross margin, high EBITDA margins, and that's kind of reversing, and so I think our capital in this environment will be very, very valuable.
spk02: Thanks, Josh.
spk00: Thank you. As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star 1-1. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Robert Dodd with Raymond James. Please go ahead. Hi.
spk03: And I think, honestly, you partially answered this in response to Melissa. When we look at the portfolio, kind of the mix of the structure of loans going forward, I mean, do you expect highly structured loans, be it ABLs, whatever, like your special situations? Do you expect that to be a growing portion of the portfolio over the next, call it 18 months, 24 months, whatever it is, however long this rate cycle goes? Given in context, obviously, a more, for air quotes, conventional loan, like emerson it's got better leverage it's got better yield um or better better spread but structurally i think it would be classified as more conventional so do you expect that that you know the the attractiveness of those normal loans with higher yields to be competitive with some of the special situations kind of things that you do? Or how do you think that mix in the portfolio is going to evolve over the next couple of years? Because to be blunt, a lot of your excess ROE comes from those activity fees on the special sets kind of things you've done to start with.
spk06: Yeah, look, I think post-COVID where the world was flushed with liquidity and corporates and Retail, again, had really good balance sheets. They didn't need our capital. And that's been historically a 20% growth on level of return for us. And so when you think about the total return for that business. And I agree with you. A lot of our access has come from those type of businesses or those type of situations like feral gas. the retail ABL stuff. There's been Metallico. There's been a lot of those. So I expect it actually to massively increase in this environment going forward as credit availability dries up and there's demand destruction and corporates have a corporate balance sheets get in a much more difficult position. I think there's going to be a lot of opportunity where we can bring the expertise of our platform, both from an industry and product standpoint, to be a solution provider that will drive excess returns for SLX shareholders. That, I think, is the single most valuable thing about our business, which is we get to invest across cycles and pick high relative value from a risk adjusted return perspective. And our shareholders benefit from that. And so I most definitely think it's going to increase. Historically, you know, it's been about 40% of our originations, but it's been a much smaller part of our portfolio because that portfolio turns quicker. I think that there's going to be most definitely a shift. But it requires a different type of platform, which is a platform that is our platform. This environment is built for our platform, which is we are able to navigate complexity and create good risk-adjusted returns for our stakeholders in a way where other platforms are set up just to do sponsored business and are long the M&A environment. are unable to do. So this is, I couldn't be more excited about the opportunity set going forward. And by the way, we'll do both. But we had the opportunity to pick the highest risk adjusted returns and drive return on equity for our shareholders because that top of our funnel is much broader. And so we have a broader view of the world. You are most definitely on to something, Robert.
spk03: Okay, appreciate that. The follow-up to that, if I can real quick, I mean, you have that expertise on the platform. Have you seen any increase in poaching efforts? I mean, is there, given the market gets more trouble than you have probably disproportionate, your platform has disproportionate expertise in some of these other things. Has there been an attempt to poach more of your staff? How are you? If it's not happening, you don't have to deal with it. But if it has happened, you know, can you give us any color? No.
spk06: Look, we haven't. And what I would say is that I think it culturally takes a different mindset. It's like there are – I'm not going to go platform by platform or name by name, but, like, you know, there is a cultural, like – a cultural difference because on the, where you have complexity requires, you know, private equity style due diligence, real deep negotiation on docs, a real hand-to-hand combat, and quite frankly, I would say it's less profitable to the GP in the sense that it takes more people and more time and you don't get to keep an asset as long. And so I think there's like economic, people make economic choices. We try to make economic choices just in light of our shareholders and stakeholders. And I think that there are cultural issues as it relates to like getting into this business Because it's not like a sponsor is giving you a cap structure and all their due diligence. It's a really different business. So we haven't seen it. You know, this is, again, one thing I love about our platform that we built is I feel like we can be rangy across cycles to really, you know, create value. And I would say there are, you know, some platforms that can do it, but a lot of the traditional sponsor-based platforms, they're not built culturally to do this. They've made different economic choices. And so, you know, we haven't seen it.
spk03: I appreciate that. Thank you.
spk00: Thank you. One moment for our next question. That will come from the line of Ryan Lynch with KBW. Please go ahead.
spk08: Hey, good morning. The question that I had is just related to your interest coverage and your software portfolio. As I think about historically as I think about kind of software investments I typically think because they're more resilient businesses for an economic downturn they typically have higher purchase price multiples and corresponding higher leverage levels though that come with those investments obviously you know you may disagree with that but if that assumption is correct you know how should we think about and how are you guys viewing you know, interest coverage and the ability for those borrowers to withstand, you know, higher interest rates from, you know, basically zero to four or 5% likely next year. If some of those businesses, while I think are structurally stronger businesses than more resilient businesses might have more leverage than maybe an average company.
spk06: Yeah. Yeah. Great question. So I'm not sure they have in our portfolio that much more leverage, but the summary of your premise is correct. First of all, interest coverage in our portfolio, I think, is flat quarter over quarter on an LTN basis. So we haven't seen degradation in interest coverage, which means that management teams are able to push through pricing or change cost structures. And the great thing about software businesses that tend to be 80 to 85% close margin businesses and have variable cost structures beneath that. And so they and their revenues are typically known. So when you when we look at the health of our software portfolio, just to go through, because I think it is helpful and we try to look at KPIs or that more forward leaning about the health of the business. So just to give you a couple of statistics. Revenue grew quarter over quarter about 6%, quarter over quarter, and year over year about 17%. And then when you look at retention in that business, and retention is a really big driver of forward revenue, retention in Q2 was 90% growth. That was before upsells, et cetera, and 105% net. And in pretty much that same range, 91% growth and 103% to 104% net in Q2. And so the fundamentals of our software business, interest coverage has been the same quarter over quarter, and the fundamentals in the software business have been really, really good. And when you think about the great thing about that business is, They are literally, when you look at the customer base on the same store basis, their customer base is growing. They don't have to do anything between people buying new products and pricing. And so I feel really good about how we're positioned. And it shows up both on a forward perspective, when you look at the KPIs of the business that are forward indicators, and interest coverage, which is an historical perspective, it shows up there as well. So I like that defensive nature of how we're positioned currently, and I think it's showing through in the fundamentals of the book. Bo, do you have anything to add on that?
spk07: That said, you know, it also, as I mentioned in the earnings call, you know, our detached points have remained stable at 4.4x. You know, that's across all borrowers, but we feel very good about the health of that software portfolio and the core earnings power.
spk08: That's helpful, and I really do appreciate the feedback. the specific statistics that you provided on, on, you know, how the software portfolio is performing. Do you, can you provide the overall interest coverage? I know you said that didn't change in the trailing 12 months this quarter, but, but what is the overall interest coverage of your portfolio?
spk07: 2.6 X. Okay. All right. Yeah.
spk08: That's pretty, pretty healthy. Okay. That's all for me. I appreciate the time today. Thanks.
spk00: Thank you. And speakers, I'm showing no further questions in the queue at this time. I'll turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.
spk06: Great. Thank you again for the technical difficulties earlier. I appreciate you hanging in for those 30 seconds. It seemed like a lifetime. I hope everybody has a happy Thanksgiving and a holiday season. We'll continue to work very, very hard. We think the environment is really interesting for our skill sets and type of capital, and we look forward to chatting in the future. Thanks. Thanks, everyone.
spk00: Goodbye. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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