Under Armour, Inc.

Q2 2024 Earnings Conference Call

11/8/2023

speaker
Operator
determine how to best prioritize investments to the areas of highest return and deprioritize areas that may not be as productive for the brand. In this respect, we are assessing the productivity of SKUs, styles, categories, sports marketing assets, and distribution channels to determine the most optimal path forward. Back to the quarter, we have a lot of newness to be excited about this fall, holiday season, and into next year. Starting with the most innovative shoe thus far in the Curry portfolio, the Curry 11 Future Curry dropped on October 13th. The first iteration of the Curry 11 speaks to Steffen's desire to inspire the next generation of players. It features UA warp upper technology and dual-density UA flow cushioning for premium comfort and control to support his demanding dynamic style of play. As we continue to grow the Curry brand, we are excited to bring more talent under the Curry umbrella, including our recent signing of rising star Darren Fox. Marking the first time an active NBA athlete brand has added an active NBA player to the portfolio, we're working on a Curry brand signature Darren shoe that will embody what he brings to the game. Turning to our UA Slip Speed platform, we launched Slip Speed Youth footwear a few weeks ago. Scaled down so all ages can enjoy the versatility of this industry-leading innovation, Slip Speed Youth is only available in our direct channels and Dick's Sporting Goods. Next up for the platform will be a Curry-Bruceley collab due out later this month, and then our Slip Speed running shoe in February, just in time for the start of the 2024 running season. Some more drops? more energy, and of course, more versatility to come. Rounding out our product highlights, in our sports style and women's businesses, we launched several better and best offerings for her, including premium products from head to toe that will keep her warm and comfortable, from the locker room and field to out on the town after the big game. Here, it's all about premium executions of fit, fabric, and finish infused with the swagger and style our athletes desire. Starting on top, Our unstoppable fleece collection has all-day comfort and four-way stretch material with just enough warmth to keep her ready for anything. On the bottom, our meridian cold-weather leggings take our super soft and stretchy performance knit fabric to the next level by adding extra thickness for warmth. Her outfit is complete with our retro sportswear-inspired Forge 96 shoes, the ultimate expression of comfort and style. Wrapping up our product update, although we know it will take time for our focus on elevated design to deliver expanded better and best level collections, we are not standing still. While re-merchandising existing products, we are selectively infusing limited run releases and capsules with an expectation that greater critical mass will arrive towards the end of next year. This brings me to our third strategic priority, which is to drive U.S. sales. During the second quarter, our North American business was down 2%, which was in line with our expectations. However, when we look towards the balance of the year, we expect a further contraction in North America, mainly due to ongoing pressures in our wholesale business, which have gotten tougher since our last call. Several forces are at play here, including inflation and consumer confidence, normalizing inventory levels amid still broad promotions, and overall softness in our future wholesale order book. As a result, we lowered our fiscal 24 revenue outlook to reflect these challenges. Amid these conditions, we are, however, making progress on our premium wholesale distribution strategy in North America. Leveraging the strength of key footwear franchises, including Curry, our mall penetration is expected to be up more than 40% by the end of fiscal 24. This is an early win, and I'm confident that as we drive brand heat and deliver better products, we will continue to gain premium shelf space. Shifting to our direct-to-consumer business, our U.S. loyalty program, UA Rewards, which went live in late July, has exceeded our initial expectations. In October, we made the program available in our retail stores, adding to our momentum. Having surpassed 1 million members in our first few months, we see more robust engagement amongst our members. So far, UA Rewards members are almost twice as likely to make a repeat purchase and return to the brand within 90 days, so early points on the board in building greater brand love and loyalty. As a cornerstone of our consumer engagement strategy, we are confident that UA Rewards will inspire better sales conversion as we continue to scale the program. In concert with our loyalty program, we are distorting resources to our digital platforms, including our website and our mobile app. Most of our consumers start their shopping journey on social media, our website, and our app. So it's critical that we improve this experience. Within this context, our teams are working hard to accelerate our e-commerce business by enhancing our search and browse capabilities, upgrading our size and fit guides, adding athlete chop-the-look sections, and increasing mobile speed, all enhancements that we know will deliver a more premium experience. I understand what a world-class digital offering looks like, and this team is strengthening the foundation for our long-term success. Turning to our international business, we continue to maintain momentum in EMEA and APAC. EMEA was our highest growth region during the quarter, reflecting solid growth in our DTC and wholesale channels. In July, we opened our fourth London brand house on Oxford Street, marking an exciting milestone as we expand our presence in the UK and drive greater brand affinity across this important market. Our APEC business also grew in the second quarter, driven by solid performances in our wholesale and DTC channels. Over a broad array of different countries and cultures, our focus is on customizing our product and marketing strategies with the local athlete in mind. and leveraging the success of our loyalty program. With 7.5 million members in our APAC loyalty program, we're now piloting franchise partner implementation, and our members are spending almost 30% more than non-members. Encouragingly, there are many learnings that we can leverage from APAC to make our U.S. loyalty program even better. In summary, at the halfway mark of fiscal 24, we are progressing against our PTH3 priorities. Acknowledging that this is a multi-year journey with much work ahead of us, most immediately we are focused on operational efficiencies and controlling costs to ensure we remain responsible stewards of the business. With our continued strategic evolution and a renewed mindset, I'm confident that we are building a stronger Under Armour. With brand T, more premium product offerings to inspire athletes worldwide, and ultimately a more robust, profitable growth story in the long term. With that, I will hand it over to Dave.
speaker
Curry
Thanks, Stephanie. Diving right in, our second quarter revenue was flat versus the prior year at $1.6 billion, which was in line with our outlook. Excluding the impact of foreign currency, revenue was down 1%. On a regional basis, North American revenue declined by 2%, coming in at $991 million. which was in line with our expectations. Wholesale was down at about the same rate due to challenges in our full price business, partially offset by growth related to inventory management strategies, which included normalization of our off-price channel mix from low levels last year. Our North American DTC business was down slightly during the quarter. EMEA revenue was up 9% to $287 million, or up 4% on a currency-neutral basis. This was driven by solid growth in our DTC business related to new store openings and a strong underlying comp business. Our EMEA wholesale business was also up during the quarter. APAC revenue was up 3% to $232 million, or up 7% on a currency-neutral basis. Despite the dynamic environment, we saw growth in our wholesale and DTC channels. China was a leading contributor to second quarter growth. And finally, our Latin American business was down 8% to $54 million in the quarter, or down 19% on a currency neutral basis due to the timing of distributor orders. From a channel perspective, wholesale revenue was down 1% to $940 million, with decreases in our distributor business partially offset by higher sales to the off-price channel. Our full-price business was flat compared to the prior year. Direct consumer revenue increased by 3% to $596 million due to a 4% increase in our owned and operated store revenue and a 2% increase in our e-commerce business. And licensing revenue decreased 14% in the quarter to $29 million, driven by declines in our North American and Japanese licensee partners. By product type, apparel revenue was up 3%, driven primarily by growth in our train and golf businesses. Following several quarters of solid growth, footwear was down 7%, driven primarily by softness in our team sports and run categories. Within team sports, we did see strong growth in basketball. As a reminder, during the second quarter of fiscal 23, a significant amount of footwear products that were previously delayed due to COVID-related factory constraints made their way into the wholesale channel. For the second half of fiscal 24, we expect footwear to be relatively flat, as we comp against last year's 26% growth in the second half. And finally, our accessories business was up 3%. Moving down the P&L, gross margin was up 260 basis points to 48% during the second quarter, driven by approximately 410 basis points of supply chain benefits, mainly due to lower freight costs. These tailwinds were better than our previous expectation and were responsible for most of the overdrive on gross margin. These benefits were partially offset by 120 basis points of unfavorable pricing due to deeper discounts in our sales to the off-price channel and our proactive strategy to reduce inventory through our factory houses, and about 20 basis points of unfavorable channel mix related to a higher percentage of off-price sales. In the second quarter, SG&A expenses were up 2% to $606 million, driven by higher marketing costs. Next, operating income was $146 million, which was above our outlook of $115 to $135 million. After tax, we realized net income of $110 million, or 24 cents of diluted earnings per share, coming in above our outlook of 18 to 21 cents for the second quarter. Now, moving on to the balance sheet. At the end of the second quarter, our inventory was up 6% to $1.1 billion. This was in line with our outlook, and as a reminder, we anticipate consecutive declines in Q3 and Q4 to end the year down at a mid to high teen percentage rate, or about $1 billion. As our levels normalize, we feel very good about the quality and composition of the inventory we have on hand. Rounding out the quarter, our cash and cash equivalents were $656 million, and we had no borrowings under our $1.1 billion revolving credit facility. And finally, we repurchased $50 million of Class C common stock during the second quarter, thus retiring 7.6 million previously outstanding shares. Under our two-year $500 million program, we have repurchased $475 million of or about 42.5 million shares of Class C stock. Next, let's turn to our fiscal 24 outlook. As Stephanie mentioned, several pressures impacting our North American business have persisted longer and are tougher since our last call. The macroeconomic environment remains uncertain, with continued inflation, mixed consumer confidence, and the effects of wholesale channel destocking. having led to softness in our future order books. And while we're not seeing significant cancellations, we don't anticipate as many at-once or automatic replenishment orders as initially planned, so we've revised our full-year outlook expectations. Accordingly, we now expect revenue to be down 2% to 4% versus our prior outlook of flat to up slightly. Looking down into our full-year revenue outlook, we're now expecting North America revenue to be down 5% to 7% versus the previous expectation of down 3% to 4%. And there is no change to the expectation that our international business should be up at a low double digit rate. Next, given lower freight and product costs, we now expect gross margin to be up 100 to 125 basis points versus our previous expectation of up 25 to 75 basis points. Moving to SG&A, we now expect our expenses to be flat to down slightly versus our prior outlook of flat to up slightly. We remain committed to ensuring our investment dollars are optimized to the areas with the highest returns while proactively identifying areas to manage expenses appropriately. That said, our operating income outlook of $310 to $330 million and diluted earnings per share of 47 to 51 cents remain unchanged. Turning to color on the second half of fiscal 24, we anticipate revenue to decline at a mid single digit rate in the third quarter due to softer wholesale orders in North America, partially offset by continued growth in our DTC business. This implies that our fourth quarter revenue will be down about three to 5% versus the prior year. Next, we expect gross margin to be flat to up slightly in the third quarter. And as a reminder, this is the smallest quarterly gross margin improvement this year due to anticipated actions to manage our inventory down further. As we finish the year, we expect an expansion of around 200 basis points in the fourth quarter due to supply chain benefits from product costs and an easy comparison related to elevated promotions in last year's fourth quarter. Bringing this to the bottom line, we expect third quarter operating income to reach approximately 65 to 75 million and nine cents to 11 cents of diluted earnings per share. This implies a fourth quarter operating income of about 75 to 85 million and 12 cents to 14 cents of diluted earnings per share. To wrap it up, Thanks to the outstanding efforts of our team, we are progressing on our PTH3 priorities and at the same time taking a balanced approach to mitigate near-term pressures. We are relentlessly focused on driving brand heat and delivering elevated design and products while driving operational efficiencies and controlling costs. We are confident this will foster sustainable, profitable growth over the long term. With that, I'll return it to the operator so we can take your questions. Thank you.
speaker
Stephanie
We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw from the question queue, please press star then 2. At this time, we'll pause momentarily to assemble our roster. Our first question will come from Jay Sol with UBS. You may now go ahead.
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Jay Sol
Great. Thank you so much. Two-part question. Stephanie, for you, just as you continue to get deeper into the business, I mean, what have you learned over the last 90 days in terms of where you see some of the biggest opportunities and what gets you most excited about being able to drive sales growth going forward? And then secondly for Dave, can you just talk about the gross margin in Q2 and then also your guidance for Q3? What were Q3 to explain why you're seeing the gross margin that you're seeing in Q3. Thank you.
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Operator
Good morning, Jay. Thanks for your question. Yeah, I'm excited about a lot of things over this past quarter. I mean, we're having some real early wins coming out of our PTH3 strategy. I'll hit on a couple of them. On the driving global brand heat front, We're doing a lot to think about marketing differently for the company, and I mentioned this in my prepared remarks, but less anthemic top-of-funnel marketing campaigns and really making sure we leverage our terrific assets, whether it's Steph Curry, Justin Jefferson, Sam Hartman, Kelsey Plum, you name it, and doing a lot more product marketing. And we're also seeing a lot of green shoots as it relates to our efforts in marketing social media marketing. So we want to be where that 16 to 24 year old team sports varsity athlete is located. So we're seeing great progress on likes and shares and engagement. So, and again, on the product marketing front, you're seeing us really be very clear to market slip speed, the, you know, Magnetico football boot and EMEA base layer. You think about Meridian, et cetera. So we're doing a lot more product marketing. Speaking of product, another thing I'm very excited about is I just couldn't be more thrilled that John Barbados has joined us. He just joined us in September, so he's just getting started. But he is really driving a design-led culture within the company, which is terrific. And it takes the lead time for our product engine is anywhere from 15 to 18 months. So his fingerprints will really be seen more as we head into the latter part of next year. But he's not standing still. He is having his influence on even the most current collections. But we've got a lot of cool things on the product front, a new Curry-Bruce Lee collab. I mentioned that. I talked a little bit about Slip Speed. And we have some amazing product. I mean, I will put our Unstoppable collection and our Meridian collection up against any competitor's product any day of the week. It really are amazing. fantastic, you know, better and best level products for us. I'm excited about that. And then as it relates to driving sales in the U.S., none of us are happy with the fact we're not moving faster here. But I will say I'm thrilled with the loyalty launch. You know, we already have. We launched in late July. We have over a million members already. And it's not just about signing people up. It's about engaging them. So we're seeing engagement. It's also a terrific part about a loyalty platform. It's more data and information on your consumers, and with their permission, doing more targeted marketing and personalization. So that's off to a great start. And we're starting to see green shoots on more expansion into more premium retail, so a 40% higher mall penetration by the end of fiscal year 24. Again, more to come next year, but early wins on the three pillars of Protect This Healthcare three, you know, driving global brand heat, big part of that is marketing, better design, better products, and driving U.S. sales. So we're, you know, we're off to a good start.
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Curry
And Jay, relative to the gross margin comment, you know, for Q2, it was really two main things. The big positive was really the supply chain impacts, mainly around the, you know, the lower ocean freight rates and costs there, but also less utilization of air freight, as we're getting more caught up there versus last year from a supply chain perspective. So freight cost was a really, really big favorability there year over year, and then that was partially offset by some unfavorable pricing relative to selling into the third-party off-price channel. The pricing into that channel started to get a little bit tougher in Q4 of last year, and we've seen that kind of continue this year. And then also, we've been a little bit more promotional relative to our direct-to-consumer business as we move through Q2 as well. So those partially offset the big favorability on the freight costs in Q2. When you flip to Q3, it's a little bit of a different story. We still expect tailwinds relative to the freight costs. But we also continue to see lower pricing on our sales into the off-price channel. And also, we're going to be doing a little bit higher volume in Q3. We're really using Q3 to move through a fair amount of inventory. The other piece of that is that relative to our outlet stores, we've reduced the mix of our MFO or made-for outlet to be able to also help us move more excess. And so that's also a year-over-year gross margin headwind. So there's a couple more kind of offsets going on in Q3 versus Q2, but a lot of it has to do with really just getting ahead and moving forward relative to our inventory position. So we feel good about what we're looking at there. And I think the last thing for Q3 is as we come into this holiday period, we are being careful relative to a promotional environment and what that's going to look like in the holidays. We want to make sure that we're going to be prepared for that as well. So we feel like we're in a good spot.
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Jay
Got it. Thank you so much. Of course.
speaker
Stephanie
Our next question will come from Simeon Siegel with BMO Capital Markets. You may now go ahead.
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Simeon Siegel
Thanks. Hey, everyone. Good morning. I hope you and your family is doing okay in these challenging times. So how are you guys, Stephanie, how are you guys thinking about go forward footwear performance just given the kind of excitement you talked about with the innovations and the drops, so how we should think about the progression there and timing. Maybe similar question around domestic store expansion as well, so how we should be thinking about what you're thinking about store opportunities there. Thank you.
speaker
Operator
Absolutely, and good morning, Simeon. Thanks for your question. I believe the first part was on footwear. Footwear is, without a doubt, the single most significant long-term growth opportunity for us, and it's I just spent some time with our footwear team out in Portland, Oregon, and was very encouraged with the innovation that I was saying, the lean into sports style. There's some great stuff going on with our team out there. John Barbados has spent quite a bit of time out there as well. And, you know, we're seeing green shoots and positive results with Curry, with our Forge, which is kind of a retro shoe that's more sports style, aberration. I spoke about slip speed quite a bit. Slip Seed really is a wonderful example of us driving brand heat and getting some innovation momentum. You know, we're selling a non-signature shoe at $150, and it's our most reviewed sneaker on the site with a 93% recommendation rate. You know, as I mentioned, we launched Youth a few weeks ago, a running expression coming out in February of next year. So excited with the traction we're getting in terms of footwear. As it relates to the second quarter, Dave touched on this, but demand was softer than we expected due to general weakness in the North American wholesale environment. And he talked about some of the tougher comps that we saw in the second quarter and that for the year, footwear will be flat. But the broader opportunity is significant. I think it goes back to some of my comments on the product pipeline. It takes 15 to 18 months of lead time to get things out the other end. We are working very, very hard on our footwear, and it's just going to take some time to get even more traction in this space. So a big, big area of focus for us. On your question related to domestic store opportunities, there is a real opportunity there. We are working on a new brand house concept that is our full-priced store concept. And there's a real opportunity, particularly here in the United States, to open more full price physical retail. We have 17 brand houses today, and we are aiming to open more of them in the years ahead so we can get that outlet to full price store mix right. We're a little off kilter right now with about a 90%, 10% mix, and we want to get that in better shape. I think physical retail is also so important because we know it's not just about driving sales and profitability from that box. It's about the ecosystem around the store. When you have a fabulous brand house at a great location, it drives e-commerce sales, and it also drives sales in our wholesale partners. So we think about it from an ecosystem perspective too. Lots of great work underway. I mean, we need to give people a reason to walk over that lease line into our store because they're going to experience something just really fabulous when they go to an Under Armour store, and we're hard at work at that. So I'm excited with the progress we're making on building out our physical retail, particularly a big focus here in the United States. Some more to come on that front, too.
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Simeon Siegel
Great. Thanks a lot. Best of luck for the rest of the year.
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Operator
Thank you.
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Simeon Siegel
Thanks.
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Stephanie
Next question will come from Jim Duffy with Stifel. You may now go ahead.
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Jim Duffy
Well, thank you. Good morning. I'm hoping for some additional perspective on the U.S. wholesale environment looking out to 2024. Can you speak to shelf space expectations in the 24? I know you mentioned some gains in the mall-based channels. Is that with both footwear and apparel? And are you seeing any notable changes in North American shelf space elsewhere that might be an offset to those gains? Thanks.
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Curry
Yeah, Jim, this is Dave. You know, North America, we have talked obviously a lot about, you know, some of the macro impacts there and some conservatism we're seeing from accounts relative to the order books and obviously the impacts that we're speaking to with our revision to Q3, Q4 back half outlook. You know, we are making some progress relative to mall business, to your point, and we're excited about that. That is, you know, relative to new spaces with new partners. But it's going to take time to really develop that into a more robust and meaningful volume of revenue. And a lot of that has to do with footwear and a lot of that has to do with sports style, both of which, as Stephanie mentioned, you know, we're hard at work. And then we continue to edit relative to, you know, our wholesale segmentation. We want to continue to improve there and continue to get cleaner and push the envelope further there. You know, we've done a lot of work there, but we still got a fair amount to go. And then also just from a high-low perspective and just overall premium distribution, we want to continue to be able to expand more kind of at the higher end and get into a little bit more specialty, et cetera. So a lot of different things that are in play. We're excited about some of those initial relationships. But again, from a volume perspective, it will take a little bit of time relative to the product pipeline that Stephanie mentioned.
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Jim Duffy
Understood. Thanks. And then you maintain the guide for the international business as you look to your spring order book. Is there any evidence that economic challenges are catching up in markets that have been resilient for you, like Western Europe?
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Curry
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, we're really bullish on our international markets. Both APAC and EMEA have been doing well for us. They continue with some really solid momentum there. I think that we also need to think about that even though there is some macro pressures out there, we do have a little bit more non-comp business as we open more doors internationally in the back half of the year, which helps a little bit. And then within APAC, we've been talking more recently about moving to more local product design in China and also relative to marketing development localized in China. And we're starting to see the benefits of that. And we see that starting to come into kind of the Q4 orders in business for APAC. And so we're excited about, you know, how that could help continue to fuel their momentum within the APAC region.
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Jay
Thank you, Dave. Thanks, Jim.
speaker
Stephanie
Our next question will come from Laurent Vasilescu with BMP Parabas. You may now go ahead.
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Parabas
Good morning. Thank you very much for taking my question. Dave, I wanted to follow up on your point about international growth for the year, growing double digits. If you could maybe potentially unpack that a little bit across the key markets, EMEA and APAC, should we expect both regions to grow double digits this year? Just the reason why I'm asking that question is because we did see a slowdown in APAC. I recognize you mentioned that China did well, but maybe you can just give us some guardrails around those two regions.
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Curry
Yeah, I mean, both regions are, again, doing very well for us, and we expect solid growth within each of them. I wouldn't necessarily say that one is necessarily going to be outgrowing the other in any big way because you also have some offsetting currency impacts, but they're both driving very well. I think that the opportunities that are there are still great for each of them. We're still fairly small in each of those two regions. especially if you think about, you know, our China business compared to some of our competitors. So, you know, continued opportunity down the road for us. And, you know, we're excited about what those teams have been able to drive for us.
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Parabas
Very helpful. And then I think, Dave, last quarter you mentioned that we should expect inventories for the end of the year to be down mid-teens to around a billion dollars. Is that still the case? And then maybe just kind of following up on Jay's question about the gross margin, that 410 basis points of supply chain benefit, Can you maybe just kind of help us frame how that benefit evolves over the next two quarters in BITS terms?
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Curry
Yeah, I mean, we've been really excited about our progress on the inventory management strategies and what we have planned for the rest of the year. You know, some of that relates to, if you remember, we talked last year about doing a fair amount of pack-and-hold work last year. So we packed away kind of seasonless product with future demand instead of discounting those products last year when we would just need to buy them again this year. And so we're now kind of selling that pack and hold product in the back half of this year, which is one of the factors in our year over year inventory improvement. But then also, you know, we were pretty proactive with factory buy reductions when we saw some softness in the demand. So that's helped us this year with managing inventory as well. And then we've also been leveraging our outlet stores more than in the past. So doing more, you know, more movement of our excess product through our outlets in a brand controlled way and less MFO through our outlets. So all those things are kind of coming together to be able to drive our inventory into a really good spot. So, you know, we're expecting inventory to be down year over year as we hit 1231. And then, you as we get through the end of Q4. When we look at gross margin, a couple different things that are coming into play. So yeah, in Q2, huge benefit there on the supply chain side, mainly with the freight costs. When we think about Q3, still seeing a pretty big benefit relative to the freight costs. But then, you know, obviously, I mentioned we're going to be pushing through a lot more inventory. And so there's some offsets there relative to pricing and mix of third-party liquidation. And then as you step into Q4, the supply chain benefits will start to change a little bit in that the benefit of the year-over-year freight costs will start to become a little bit less of a factor as we start comping some of that improvement in Q4 of last year. But the other piece that starts coming into play that benefits Q4 is we've actually been working through a lot of better negotiations with our factory partners on product costs So our sourcing team has done a phenomenal job working through that, and we're going to start to see those product costing benefits come through starting in Q4 of this year. So that kind of helps to be a tailwind as well in Q4 and gives us a little bit of an extra gross margin benefit there. And then the pricing impact actually starts to be slightly favorable for us in Q4. And what I mean by that is the third-party liquidation channel, the pricing got pretty tough in Q4 of last year. So now we're comping that in Q4 of this year. So it's not the headwind that it is in Q3 and prior. So that's really helping us out. And then also in Q4 of last year, we went pretty aggressive and deep from a discounting perspective within DTC. And we don't foresee having to go that deep in Q4 of this year as we believe that the the market and inventory levels out there will start to normalize as we step into the next calendar year a little bit. So a couple different things going on there, but that's why gross margin in Q3, slight improvement versus Q4, a larger improvement for us.
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Stephanie
Our next question will come from Bob Durble with Guggenheim. You may now go ahead.
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Bob
Hi, good morning. I just got two questions. Stephanie, can you give us a bit sort of where you are focused on the women's business and sort of what you see happening there? And I guess the second question is just a little bit more on pricing and sort of progress that you're making on ASPs, but also some of the new products that you're bringing to market. Can you give us an update on sort of where you think ASPs are going with some of the new launches and maybe a little focus on slip speed? Thanks.
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Operator
Sure, of course. Good morning, Bob. Thanks for your question. I'll start with your question on women's. As we've shared on past calls, this is a big area of opportunity for us with less than 25% of our sales. There's a lot of upside here. Women's was actually up in the quarter. And as we continue to prioritize on winning with women, and again, focusing on delivering that elevated both footwear and sports style products. So it was, and it was up in Q2 despite the wholesale challenges we mentioned. And where we're really winning in the short term with women is on bras and bottoms. But we've got, and I mentioned some of our higher end collections, Unstoppable and Meridian are doing well with women. But we've got a lot more work to do there. And it's a focus for our product team. It's a focus with John Varvatos. And again, because there's this 15 to 18-month lead time in our product engine, it's just going to take some more time to get product designed, sourced, manufactured, shipped, and on the shelf. So we are very, very focused on that. And I think equally important to having the right elevated product for women, we need to market to women differently. So it's not just about the product, it's about the marketing, and we need to have a different feel to the creative and how we market to women. And there's also the distribution element. This gets back to more premium distribution. As we deliver more elevated products, not just for women, but across the board, that will open more doors of distribution for us, get into more department stores or specialty boutiques. When I think about women driving our business there, it's really kind of the full 4P approach, product, place, price, promotion, and we're hard at work at it and seeing some green shoots. On the pricing point, we are absolutely working on driving higher ASPs, and that does get to ties back to the point about more better and best product. We need to get our mix of high-low and better equilibrium. And so we will be driving better and best products that, of course, will have pricing implications. You mentioned Slipspeed. It's a great example of a non-signature shoe. We're selling it at $150, and it's getting, again, fabulous reviews. We're also, as it relates to pricing, we're focused on our digital assets. In particular, our website and our app. We're spending a lot of time not only making... it more functionally easier for consumers, less friction, but figuring out a way to, you know, wean off some of the discounting on our website and our app. That must be a premium expression for the brand. So, you know, as we get that mix in better shape over time, that will drive up ASPs as well. So, I mean, there's many pieces, moving parts here as we drive higher ASPs, but it is absolutely an area of focus for us you know, across the board.
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Stephanie
Our next question is from Matthew Boss with J.P. Morgan. You may now go ahead.
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Matthew Boss
Great, thanks. So, Stephanie, you mentioned striking a balance between returning the brand to growth multi-year relative to the investments that may be needed. So maybe help us to think higher level about this interplay, maybe as we think about next year or 2025. And just the timeline that you see as reasonable to return North America to revenue growth.
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Operator
Yeah, thank you for the question, Matt. And this balancing act is exactly what we're managing through. And it's about figuring out how we are going to grow the company. And again, I'm excited about some of our early wins. And at the same exact time, looking for opportunities to expand margins. So not just cost efficiencies, but also operational efficiencies. How can we drive a stronger P&L? We do recognize that this year is the perfect example where we're strained on top line growth, so we are identifying additional areas of cost of goods sold improvement. Dave talked about some of that work that's going to hit more in the fourth quarter as it relates to the work we're doing with our vendors. We're diving deep into skew rationalization, improved segmentation opportunities, back to the point of driving ASP expansion. But, you know, we are at the very same time trying to figure out how to prioritize our investment. We've got to figure out how we can invest and, you know, around demand creation efforts to get back to that growth. And at the same time, look at areas where we will deprioritize, where we're not seeing the return of and manage our costs. So it is this balancing act between finding costs and operational efficiencies to drive the bottom line, but also to find opportunities to reinvest in the business for the future. I talked about footwear. That's an opportunity of growth, but also it's going to take investment. We're not going to be able to grow footwear if we don't also invest in that. I'll give you another example of future growth for us, the curry business. That is, I have never been more excited about that business. I've personally had several one-on-one meetings with Steph Curry, and he has never been more excited and engaged about what we can do with this business. Not only on footwear, of course, that's going to be basketball at the center of the Curry brand, but also with apparel. We've got some really fantastic new sports style apparel coming out under the Curry brand, golf. I mentioned Darren Fox and his signature shoe under the Curry brand. So, But again, this is going to take investment. So we're getting that balancing act. I think we're getting it right and we're working on it every single day. We're not ready to call fiscal year 25 and beyond yet, but I think we're putting all the puzzle pieces in place and all the building blocks in place to return to growth in the long term.
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Matthew Boss
That's great color. And then Dave, just how would you characterize health of the broader sportswear channel today? Maybe what are you seeing from promotional activity in the space relative to your expectations? And maybe just high level, could you just elaborate on the change in the wholesale backdrop relative to three months ago?
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Curry
Sure. I mean, I think from what we're seeing, I think the industry seems pretty poised to kind of enter the holidays with a leaner inventory than last year, which is good. yet this doesn't really guarantee that promotions will be lower because demand has also become a little softer relative to the macro. So from a timing perspective, our outlook assumes normalization by kind of that spring timeframe of 24, but it's mixed. It's a little bumpy out there still, and we're still seeing some wholesale partner conservatism in their buying pattern. So it's something that we're monitoring every day. and we're continuing to work on our relationships, work on our product, and work on our marketing to be able to capitalize when things are a little less off there. And then relative to what was the second question that you had, Matt?
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Matthew Boss
Just the overall promotional activity in the space, what you're seeing out there.
speaker
Curry
Yeah, as I said, it is fairly promotional still. It was turning pretty promotional in Q3 and Q4 of last year, and we're seeing that continue this year, and we're planning for that. And that is fairly broad. I mean, obviously, North America I think we're seeing the most, but some of the other regions as well. And again, I don't or we don't foresee that to be changing a lot until we get kind of further into our Q4 and further towards kind of spring of next calendar year.
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Matthew Boss
It's a great color. Best of luck. Thanks, Matt.
speaker
Stephanie
Thanks, Matt. Our next question will come from Paul Ledgway with Citi. You may now go ahead.
speaker
Matt
Hey, thanks, guys. On the weaker wholesale channel, I'm curious if that was equally disappointing or has been equally disappointing in both the apparel and footwear side, and maybe if you could talk to sports style reception specifically. And also, Steph, you mentioned deprioritizing certain things. Curious what you might have in mind to help pay for some of what you want to prioritize. Thanks.
speaker
Operator
And good morning, Paul. Why don't I start, and then I know Dave will jump in with some additional color and information. On wholesale, yeah, it has been, I think the softness in wholesale has been on both the apparel and the footwear side. And when we think about just zooming way out, For the whole company, we're going to be flat in both for the year, but the softness has been in both areas. And then on sports style specifically, you know, the way we're thinking about sports style is, I mean, first of all, let me define it quickly. It's that kind of intersection of performance and style. You know, when we talk to 16- to 24-year-old team sport athletes and any of you who have teenagers can relate to this, they don't use this language, right? They just want to have cool stuff that looks great when they're on the field or playing their sports and then they can wear out with their friends. So that's really what we're talking about. And it's really for us, we believe in evolution of our product offerings, not a revolution. You know, we have some fabulous sports style offerings right now. We're going to have more and more better and best. So phase one for us is really around re-merchandising and re-marketing products to demonstrate the non-active use occasions. And, again, we've made a lot of progress here over the past nine months, and you're seeing it in some of those social media stats I mentioned during my prepared remarks. Those are tied to this effort to re-merchandise and re-market a lot of our sports-style products that we have today. But we do need new product, and we do need new better and best product. And, again, we see that coming out the latter part of next year, just given the lead time for products. As it relates to where we're going to find savings or de-invest for the future, I mean, we're looking at everything, right? We are looking at whether it's sports marketing, whether it's cost across the P&L. Dave can jump in there more. But that's the work we're knee-deep in now is assessing where we're driving profitability, where we're driving growth, and where we're not being as successful, and where we could pull back and, you know, pour more gas on things that are growing. And pour more gas on things that are growing, I would say sports style, footwear, curry, women would be great examples. Dave, do you want to add a little bit?
speaker
Curry
Yeah, I mean, I would just say that, you know, over the past few years, we've worked really hard to become more agile from a cost structure perspective. You know, we certainly have more work to do there, and we understand, you know, and continuing to dig into the areas of highest returns and kind of validate where our best investments are. But we've been pressuring down our costs appropriately, whether it be in our hiring or tightening up our marketing, prioritization, spending, reducing T&E, other areas of our costs. But to Stephanie's point, while doing that, we are trying to make sure, and we are, investing in design talent, investing in e-com relative to loyalty and site speed, Investing from an end-to-end planning perspective, retail POS perspective, PLM system, et cetera. So a lot of those enablers to growth and to also help fuel the brand are what we're freeing up dollars and putting money into. So it is kind of a continued balancing act there.
speaker
Jay
Thanks, guys. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you.
speaker
Stephanie
Thank you. Our next question will come from Alex Stratton with Morgan Stanley. You may now go ahead.
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Alex Stratton
Great. So maybe it's just two from me. Thanks for taking the question. Maybe for Dave, it feels tough kind of to get to your revised full-year top-line guidance. And by that, I mean it feels pretty conservative as a starting point. So maybe can you talk about the range of outcomes you've embedded in that guide and perhaps the key areas of upside and downside? And then just a second question for Stephanie. How do you balance the heightened kind of current off-price presence with your goals of expanding your premium distribution over time? Thanks a lot.
speaker
Curry
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, when we look at our back half, you know, we revised our guidance full year, obviously, to down 2% to 4%. You know, in general, we didn't really give specific channel or product outlook, but, you know, we continue to expect our U.S. wholesale business to be challenged this year, especially the wholesale piece. And given, you know, the demanding selling environment, yes, we are being a little bit cautious there, but it is what we're seeing. So we want to make sure that we're reflecting that. We do, on the other hand, expect DTC to continue to outperform wholesale as we drive through, and that's in kind of each of our regions. And when you break it down and kind of look at it by quarter, you know, the quarters aren't drastically different. You know, we're seeing, you know, the fact that the order softness and wholesale, some of that did come out of Q3 and Q4. Some of that is our at-once business assumptions, because we did see some of the bookings come down, and normally the at-once is going to kind of follow that as well. And then even with some of our auto replenishment. So we think that we're being prudent in reacting and driving through relative to what we see. You know, as far as you know, puts and takes of what we could see. It's hard to say. I mean, we've taken in a lot. It is a little bit bumpy. We feel like we've called the ball here with our updated outlook. Could there be some areas that overdrive? Possibly. But there could be some continued pressures as well. So we're trying to kind of call it in the middle here.
speaker
Operator
Good morning, Alex. Thanks for your question. As it relates to balancing kind of off-price shelf space and more premium distribution. Just a couple things. Well, I think important to note that we've held our off price to 3% to 4% of global revenue since fiscal year 20. So we have been consistent there and being very, very diligent. But when it comes to getting the mix right, it does get back to product. It starts with product, more better and best product. That is what we are laser focused on because that is how we're going to get more premium shelf space with our wholesale partners. That's how we're going to get into more department stores, more specialty retail. It's how we're going to get more shelf space. And I should put this at the top of the list with the likes of a Dick's Sporting Good. We want to get more shelf space with our existing partners, too. And our wholesale partners are a very, very important and critical part of our distribution strategy. But it starts with really that better and best product focus for the company. And it also ties to our DTC channels. You know, we... And ties back to my point earlier about opening more full-price brand houses in the United States over time as we really perfect that model and give people a reason to walk over that lease line, which is all about more better and best product in our stores and having it be an absolutely just fabulous experience for them. So, again, I mentioned we have not. In the past, particularly here in the United States, we haven't been as disciplined as we could have been about segmentation, too, about being very, very disciplined about which product go into which channel. So that is another. That disciplined approach to segmentation is also something we're laser-focused on. But we need to get that equilibrium in a better place between off-price and premium. And I think everything that we're doing around the Protect Us Health 3 strategy is driving us towards that outcome. Thanks a lot. Good luck.
speaker
Jay
Thank you. Thank you.
speaker
Stephanie
Our final question will come from Jonathan Komp with Baird. You may now go ahead.
speaker
Jonathan Komp
Hi, thank you. Just two questions for me. First, is there any sort of anecdotal insight you can share from your wholesale partners as you try to shift some of the attention towards more non-active businesses? and more premium product. Are you getting any response today? I don't know if it's too early, or is that something you need to prove first in D2C? And then just broader questions, the focus on both returning to growth and driving higher profitability, is that thinking shifted at all as you now are optimizing some costs to react to slower revenue growth in the short term? Or do you still think that that dual focus is appropriate going forward.
speaker
Operator
Well, good morning, Jonathan. Let me start with your first question around our reaction from our wholesale partners. I think it's been great. I mean, they see that's where the consumer is going, and they want to see more from Under Armour in this regard. I mentioned just as an early green shoot that we've seen a 40% increase in the mall sales as a result of our product, and particularly, you know, that's a big part of that's footwear and curry as an example. So we are seeing a lot of receptivity from our wholesale partners, and I think the more we continue to deliver great product that resonate with consumers, then we're going to continue to see more and more receptivity there. And that's what we're hard at work at. To your question about the balance between returning to growth and profitability, You know, per my earlier remarks, absolutely. We're still laser focused on getting that balance right. We must grow. At the same time, we must expand margins and through cost efficiencies and operational efficiencies. We are very aware, though, that in the short term, there is pressure on the top line. So that's back to my point about really digging in on skew rationalization, cost of goods sold improvement, et cetera, just really, really doubling down on making sure that we've got our our P&L in a good shape, our cost in a good place, but we will, like all great companies, we will always be focused on driving both top line and margin expansion and profitability, and we believe that's the right long-term strategy for the company.
speaker
Jay
Thank you very much. Thank you, Jonathan. Thank you, Jonathan.
speaker
Stephanie
With that, we'll conclude Under Armour's second quarter fiscal 24 earnings conference call. Thank you for attending and have a good day. You may now disconnect.
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