5/6/2026

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Kate
Conference Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Kate, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Outgrants, Inc. First Quarter 2026 earnings call. All lines have been placed on you to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press start followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to adjourn your question, press start one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Trevor Martin, Senior Vice President, Head of Corporate Finance. Please go ahead.

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Trevor Martin
Senior Vice President, Head of Corporate Finance

Thank you, Operator, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us today for our live Q&A session of our first quarter of 2026 earnings results. With me today on today's call are Howard Friedman, CEO, and BK Kelly, CFO. I hope everyone has had a chance to read our prepared remarks and our presentation, all of which are available on our investor relations website. Before we begin our Q&A session, I just have a few administrative items to review. Please note that some of our comments today will contain forward-looking statements based on our current view of the business and that actual future results may differ materially. Please see our recent SEC filings, which identify the principal risks and uncertainties that could affect future performance. Today, we will discuss certain adjusted or non-GAAP financial measures, which are described in more detail in the following earnings materials. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures and other associated disclosures are contained in our earnings materials listed on our website. Now, operator, we are ready to open the lines of questions.

speaker
Kate
Conference Operator

At this time, I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question, press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We will pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster. Your first question comes from the line of Peter Galbo with Bank of America. Your line is open.

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Peter Galbo
Analyst, Bank of America

Hey, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Howard, maybe to start, you had some commentary on the second quarter in your prepared remarks, kind of addressing some of the softness to start 2Q, particularly in April. So I was hoping maybe you could expand a little bit just on that point. as well as whether or not you think April represents kind of the bottom within the quarter, and then we should see improvement in May and June. So, maybe I'll start there and let you kind of elaborate on your commentary.

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question, Pete. So, a couple things. I think, first of all, we always expected that April was going to be sort of, would be a more difficult lap for a couple of reasons. Beyond sort of the Easter shift, we have year-over-year programming that we've done in the prior year. Specifically, you see it on Boulder Canyon, and you can see it on the cheese business. We also had some laps in some larger customers where there's some merchandising timing that actually shifted. So, you know, as you look at the year-over-year, we expected the quarter to start out a little bit softer than the run rate had been. I think if you look at the food channel overall, you know, 50% of our business, I think it's a pretty good indicator of our underlying strength, which continues to be and as we progress through the second quarter, you'll actually see some incremental activations coming. Boulder Canyon has some activity behind Palo. You'll see new product innovations start to hit, and obviously California will continue to grow. So, you know, I think we're off to where we expect it to be in the second quarter and largely through Q1 as well.

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Peter Galbo
Analyst, Bank of America

Great. Thanks for that. And, D.K., just maybe as a follow-up, You left the guidance unchanged for the year, actually reiterated all elements of it. I think there was a bit of concern out there in the market that just given maybe less of a scaled BSE platform, things like freight, resins might hit you a bit sooner. So maybe you can just talk a little bit about the hedging program and kind of how you're locked on freight and go forward for the rest of the year. Thanks very much, guys.

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BK Kelly
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, thanks, Pete. Thanks for the question. So first of all, I would say, you know, we're covered for most of the year on fuel, ags, and freight. Our productivity program that we've touted a bit here at approximately 4% is going well and will continue to build on those plans in HQ. And that will help us offset any income and inflation, which we think, you know, comes from primarily a small impact from fuel for us, but mostly packaging driven by the resin impact. You know, we'll continue to maximize the other levers that we have, you know, the RGM tools around price pack architecture, and we'll be using AI to improve our promo effectiveness, and we'll continue to improve our sales mix. The net impact for us is that you'll have many levers to address potential inflation, but we are mostly covered on the fuel, ags, and freight pieces to your point.

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Rob Dickerson
Analyst, DTIG

Great.

speaker
Kate
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Lavery with Piper Sandberg. Your line is open.

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Luke
Analyst, Piper Sandberg

Hi, guys. Good morning. This is Luke on for Michael. Thanks for taking our question. I just wanted to ask on marketing spend. You increased marketing spend by 35% in the first quarter, and I believe your long-term target is for 3% to 4% of sales. How close do you get to that target this year and in 2027? And then also, where do you see the biggest opportunities for return on marketing spend?

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thanks for the question. I think what we've said, we're largely in line with what we would have expected on the marketing investment for the year. We'll expect to have about 40% year-over-year, and we continue to have conviction that that's the right place to be. We're still probably a couple of years out from being able to get to that 3% to 4% longer-term target. Because, as you can imagine, when we start to think about the available resources we have and the opportunities we have to grow, whether it's with westward expansion, continuing drive capability, as well as marketing innovation, there is a reasonable competition for those dollars. I would tell you that we feel great about the innovation this year, and I think it's probably the strongest lineup we've certainly had in my time here. I think in terms of where we see ongoing investment, I think there are a couple places. One is obviously supporting our Power4 brands, us, Boulder Canyon, Zast, and On the Border. Boulder Canyon has new advertising that will be out this year to support the momentum on that brand, which continues to grow very quickly. Second is in our expansion markets where we're introducing the brand. California will obviously get investment as we continue to scale that area. And then the last is in supporting our tour, where it's a little bit more traditional marketing. competitive dynamics for us within the category. So I think over time, you'll continue to see us grow our advertising and consumer spend and we'll remain focused and disciplined on how we deploy those resources.

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Luke
Analyst, Piper Sandberg

Okay, that's great. Thank you. And your household penetration increased just over a point. What's working there and what opportunities are ahead?

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, so... Look, I think part of our household penetration – we feel very good about the household penetration trend we've been on. I think equally important to us is that the loyalty rates continue to grow, because obviously as you grow penetration, you're introducing yourself to newer users, and they may not repeat quite as much. And what we're seeing is very strong loyalty rates as well, which I think is a testament to the quality of our products and the variety of items that we offer. You know, I think that the major drivers, again, are going to be Partially, it's going to be about expansion geographies, which, you know, obviously for the Us brand, as we're moving westward, and for the remaining Power of Three, it's also bringing it into Us's core geography. So we're introducing new households in both places. Second, you know, our innovation is introducing products into households that they may not have had before. I feel very good about the early start on Tallow. And then lastly is just driving incremental advertising, which is also – doing a good job of being both effective and efficient, but also driving our brand story. So, you know, I think we're kind of hitting on most of the cylinders right now and, you know, lots left to do.

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Luke
Analyst, Piper Sandberg

Great. Thank you. Thank you.

speaker
Kate
Conference Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Marks with Jefferies. Your line is open.

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Scott Marks
Analyst, Jefferies

Hey, good morning. Thanks so much for taking our questions. The first thing I wanted to ask about in the prepared remarks, you made a comment about not seeing any need to change commercial plans because of competitor activity. I'm wondering if you can expand on that a little bit and just help us understand what you're seeing out there from a competitive perspective and how some of the recent changes within the category may or may not have impacted your own business.

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question, Scott. Look, I think overall we feel like we're where we expect it to be at this point in the year and that our commercial plans are holding. And, you know, a lot of the innovation, expansion, and investment in marketing and consumer, I think, is going to deliver on the goals that we've had for the year. I think with respect to what we're seeing competitively, you know, I tell you what we've observed is, obviously, the Belmark prices or the unpacked prices come down, and we have seen some sharper promotional price points with some customers in some of the subcats. And, you know, this isn't wildly different than what we had seen in Q4 as we were going through that, observing the early testing. And, you know, we do believe that at this point it will continue to be a targeted and focused activity from the competition. You know, from our perspective, you know, we feel pretty good. I think if you look at the first two major merchandising windows of the year, Super Bowl and Easter, we were able to take dollar share. You know, we grew our distribution 7% on TDPs. And we increased marketing to, as you said, to 35% while also being mindful of where our price gaps need to be to remain competitive. So, you know, I think we feel confident in our drivers for the year. I think we feel confident that California will continue to build and that we've invested in our revenue management capabilities to make sure that we are able to compete. And, you know, the nice thing about our company is we can be fairly agile and And with productivity giving us more resources potentially to deploy, if we had to, we feel like we can compete in a variety of contexts.

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Scott Marks
Analyst, Jefferies

Appreciate the thoughts there. And then just a follow-up from me, a lot of comments in today's remarks about bonus bags. I hate to bring up the term again, but obviously it's been there. You know, you obviously help us, give us a little bit of context in terms of what the numbers look like, excluding the bonus packs. I'm wondering if you can break that down between core markets versus expansion markets. What would the impact have been if we exclude the bonus bag just in terms of, you know, price versus volume and kind of where that growth is coming from?

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. Yeah, so a couple of things. I think... I know we haven't broken it out between core and expansion geographies. It's kind of more difficult for us to do, just given the nature of the fact that the bonus bags were actually the same UPC. So we'd have to do some additional work to be able to offer that. I think what you can say is that bonus bags broadly were mostly in the core of geography, just that that's where the majority of our distribution is with respect to things like us and on the border, which is where it was. Yeah, we tried to give you a perspective of on a two-year basis, you know, we're holding up quite well competitively and at both volume mix and price are being similar contributors to our overall growth rate, which I think really is kind of the point we wanted to make sure we got across.

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Scott Marks
Analyst, Jefferies

Appreciate it. Thanks.

speaker
Kate
Conference Operator

Thanks, Scott. Your next question comes from the line of Rob Dickerson with DTIG. Your line is open.

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Rob Dickerson
Analyst, DTIG

Great. Thanks a lot. Hello, people. Hey, how are you? Good to hear from you. Great. Yeah, just a quick question on the category. You know, I realize you're using retail dollars and the quarter category is not flat, right? It was off, I think, over 2% based off of what you spoke to. You know, the guidance that you've been talking for a while, kind of expecting kind of flat for the year. Is it just kind of, you know, obviously the market's very dynamic right now, kind of we're still in the early or at least first half of the year, so there's no need to say, oh, we actually think, you know, the category could be more than flat this year and maybe we'll be in line with the category. I'm just trying to gauge a sense of kind of where your head is right now, you know, sitting, you know, in early May with respect to the category and maybe its potential. for the year, and then kind of how you could maybe operate vis-a-vis that category growth stage?

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, I think first, I think when you think about the beginning of the year, we have continued to suggest a more flattish category, just given how early it has been in the year. And there is a very, it's certainly been noisy in the first three, four months of the year. You know, so I think at this point, we're just continuing to take a conservative view on the category. I think what we would expect is that as the year continues and as the categories sort of start to demonstrate more consistency, then we'll re-look at that, look at our assumptions. But from our perspective, you know, obviously we've never been solely dependent on the category for our growth. The expansion geographies remain a significant area of white space for us and our increases in innovation at A&C. we believe puts us in a position to make sure that we are delivering against the guidance that we've provided as we go forward. And obviously, if the category continues to improve, then we'll take a different decision as we continue to navigate the year.

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Rob Dickerson
Analyst, DTIG

All right. Super. And then I guess just on the innovation front, I think you mentioned you were saying, like, you know, beef tallow going for 20 bucks on auction, and I know you have flavored tortillas coming, you know, it's protein, so much protein skews. You know, there are a few other competitors that, you know, might have some healthier options coming in as well. But just as, you know, we think about kind of consumer re-engagement, right, in a category like Boulder is clearly doing very well, engaging well with the consumer. Again, kind of coming back, I guess, to us, but then also to the category, it just feels like the, you know, there's clearly action in motion that would support, you know, kind of category improvement potentially as we get through the year, but especially just within consumer re-engagement. I don't know if that makes sense. Let's hear your comments.

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it does. We think that there are kind of three areas where consumer engagement really kind of matters to us. I think the first, to your point, is around better for you, and we're certainly seeing – many people entering into the Better For You category, larger-scale competitors and smaller guys. We feel really good about Boulder Canyon's ability to compete. Tallow has gotten off to a great start. It was a new one for me to go onto an auction site and see the product there. But really around Better For You attributes and non-seed oil, and that business continues to grow in both the natural and competitive sense. I think we've also seen that it's actually able to stretch with, to your point, both unflavored and now flavored for VHS, which we feel very good about the authorizations and early consumption trends on that business is strong. I think protein in us is introducing that brand into what we call an elevated performance, not necessarily all the way to the Boulder Canyon side, but the presence of positive. We think it's a big territory for consumers who are looking to incorporate more protein in, and we'll continue to try and work on the better for you attributes across via snacking made simple on our us brand is our sort of our organizing idea, which highlights the simple ingredients that are in our core products. You know, the next two areas really are around flavor and value. And those two areas also are places where I think consumers have always engaged in this category and will continue to do so as we go forward. So I do think you're going to see more effort by everybody to introduce presence of positives. I think it's a consumer trend, but I also think flavor and value you'll also see.

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Rob Dickerson
Analyst, DTIG

All right, and then just maybe a quick one for me, too, for BK. Just on the free cash flow front, you know, is there anything to call out, you know, as we get, you know, as we're now in early May for the year, and I'm really just kind of speaking to that, you know, expected kind of sequential improvement free cash flow this year than kind of that ability to hit that larger target longer term. That's all. Thanks a lot.

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BK Kelly
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think the, thanks for the question, you know, our confirmation of our guidance included the 60, 80 million of free cash flow that we were chasing this year. The, you know, Q1 for us is always going to be a quarter where we burn cash as we build, you know, for the seasons. I think the improvement in our leverage year on year is something that is indicative of the improvement we're making in our processes and capabilities in this area. We continue to think that that will build over the year, and we'll be on track for the fee cash flow that we expect to generate, as well as a lot of targets that we set.

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Rob Dickerson
Analyst, DTIG

Super. Thank you. I'll pass it over.

speaker
Kate
Conference Operator

Before going to the next question, again, if you would like to ask a question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Jim Salera with Stevens. Your line is open. Your line is open.

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Jim Salera
Analyst, Stevens

Hey, Howard. Hey, BJ. Good morning. Thanks for the question. I wanted to circle back on the pricing actions you mentioned by large competitors and kind of the limited impact on the commercial plan. From some of the work that we've done, it seems like those pricing actions are most pronounced in mass, particularly the largest mass retailer. I wonder if you could share how you're thinking about your pricing, maybe on a kind of channel basis, relatives to peers, and if we should see maybe a more strategic opportunity for you to differentiate yourself in channels outside of MAS?

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, thanks for the question. Certainly, we've seen similar performance in the MAS channel, which is not that much of a surprise to us. I think you've seen that. We've seen that historically, which kind of goes back to the original point of it. Nothing that we're doing, we've seen so far, has been all of that surprising to us. And if you think about how our commercial strategy kind of unfolds, we have got a wide range of competitive dynamics across the price ladder. So, you know, we continue to grow very nicely in the national channel. We've been making good progress in club behind some of our premium brands, notably Boulder. Our expansion geographies and, frankly, the food channel overall continues to perform for us with the larger national grocers. as well as the regional players. And so, you know, we will compete there. You know, obviously our Redman capability really comes through in the food channel because that's where promotional effectiveness and timing can really kick in. And then I think, you know, more broadly as you think about sort of the remainder of the NAS channel, we are feeling very good about the performance of our business there. We've seen distribution gains. So, you know, overall work, we are, it is a subcat by subcat, channel by channel game for us. And that's, again, I think we have a lot of different ways to get to our goals and our objectives. And I think that's kind of what you're seeing in the first quarter.

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Jim Salera
Analyst, Stevens

Great. And then I can shift gears and ask a quick one on California. You mentioned your prepared remarks. You know, California was up high single digits. It might be too early, but I want to ask, do you have any sense for the repeat rates in California, given your brand is going to be new to a lot of folks out there, curious to see kind of the initial loyalty response?

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, it's early for us to see. We have to get through a couple of purchase cycles before we'd really be able to give you a better sense of loyalty. What I can tell you is, if you look at our overall marketing metrics nationally, which, of course, our expansion geography is, are a significant portion of our growth, you continue to see loyalty and repeat rates actually fairly consistent across. So I think that that gives us quite a bit of confidence that even with a lower relative brand awareness on a brand like us, that the product once in consumers' hands and pantries will earn its right to stay there. I think beyond that, remember that Boulder Canyon and Hawaiian are also brands that exist in that marketplace today. And so that is also the opportunity for us to expand distribution of those items, which are more familiar to the California market. So, you know, it will be a full suite of our Power 4 brands and some of our targeted brands as we kind of mature that geography over time. But like I said, high single digits, a couple weeks in, you know, let's call it five, six weeks into it. We feel pretty good about where we are in California. Lots to do, but we're excited about it.

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Jim Salera
Analyst, Stevens

Great. I appreciate the thoughts. I'll hop back in the queue.

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Howard Friedman
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Jim.

speaker
Kate
Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.

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