Velocity Financial, Inc.

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

8/3/2023

spk00: Good afternoon and welcome to the Velocity Financial second quarter 2023 conference call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star, then one on your touchtone phone. To withdraw from the question queue, please press star, then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Chris Altman, Treasurer. Please go ahead.
spk03: Thanks, Danielle. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the discussion of Velocity's second quarter 2023 results. Joining me today are Chris Farrar, Velocity's President and Chief Executive Officer, and Mark Sapaniak, Velocity's Chief Financial Officer. Earlier this afternoon, we released our second quarter 2023 results and the press release and accompanying presentation are available on our Investor Relations website. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call may include forward-looking statements which are uncertain and outside of the company's control, and actual results may differ materially. For discussion of some of the risks and other factors that could affect results, please see the risk factors and other cautionary statements made in our communications with shareholders, including the risk factors disclosed in our SEC filings. Please also note that the content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today and we do not undertake any duty to update forward-looking statements. We may also refer to certain non-GAAP measures on this call. For reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures, you should refer to the earnings materials on our investor relations website. And finally, today's call is being recorded and will be available on the company's website later today. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Chris Farrar.
spk01: Thank you, Chris, and we appreciate everyone joining the call today. We're pleased to report another excellent quarter and thank all of our team members who worked so hard to support our mission. Our continued growth in earnings and book value are a result of a sound strategy and attention to detail from everyone at the firm. Our origination pipeline is very healthy, and we continue to be choosy with credit as we've seen increased demand with banks tightening their lending activities. This pullback has allowed us to create attractive risk-adjusted yields for new portfolio loans. We recognized a 19% increase in originations versus the prior quarter while holding expenses flat, which obviously improves our operating margins. With respect to credit performance, we continue to profitably resolve delinquent loans and recognize overall gains from recognizing default interest. Our delinquency rates increased this quarter and we expect the net resolutions of these assets to continue to drive future gains similar to our long-term history as the real estate market remains stable in terms of valuation. Our special servicing team continues to sell REOs at a healthy pace and the markets are liquid when priced reasonably. Frost has come off some of the overheated markets as Fed policies cooled the rapid price appreciation we were experiencing. which we view as a long term positive for our business. Capital markets are improving as we see spreads starting to tighten and better investor participation in the new issue market due to limited supply and the potential of a terminal rate from the Fed. Our financing relationships and capital sources are strong as we continue to grow earnings and work to improve our return on equity. In short, our business is performing very well, and the team is passionate about growing our assets, our people, and our opportunities. As always, we appreciate all shareholders and will work to deliver value every day. I'll turn over to the presentation now and walk folks through a couple of slides and then hand it over to Mark. On page three, from an earnings perspective, really nice growth in earnings per share, great quarter for us. I mentioned the net revenue growth earlier, up 6.8% quarter over quarter with flat operating expenses. That's, you know, a testament to our operating team and doing a great job of growing volume and controlling costs to improve margins. Overall portfolio yield increased up 24 bps year over year, as a result of putting on these new loans at much higher coupons. Obviously, we've got a large fixed rate component there, so to move that coupon up that much speaks to the volume that we've been doing at these much higher levels. In terms of production, I mentioned $258 million for the quarter up from the previous quarter, down significantly from last year. But as you can see from the earnings, you know, Earnings are not driven by current month or current quarter production, so we're very comfortable with the levels that we're at right now, and we're more focused on allocating capital with attractive returns as opposed to just doing volume. Portfolio is growing nicely from the net growth of the originations, and in terms of credit performance, the NPLs, For the quarter, moved up to 10% from 8.2% in the previous quarter. There are really three things going on there. One, the portfolio seasoning, and just as a reminder, last year we did $1.7 billion in originations, and delinquency tends to peak 24 to 36 months after originating a new loan. So as the portfolio seasons, we'll see some of that delinquency come on. Two, we're quick to put borrowers in foreclosure. Many lenders will work with a borrower when they're delinquent or delayed in making payments. If borrowers will communicate with us, we're often open to doing that, and if there's a viable plan to work them out. But if not, we're very quick to put someone into foreclosure, especially if they're not communicating with us. just to make sure we get a resolution and we protect the equity that we have ahead of our loan. And then thirdly, the NPLs come on a lot faster than they come off. So, you know, if we move quickly to pop them into foreclosure, it might take several months for something to resolve. So there's kind of a lag effect there. Most importantly, you know, we continue to see the positive gains over and above contractual principal and interest and we continually monitor our portfolio and look at delinquent assets and based on everything we've seen and reviewed, we don't expect our results to be any different than what we've historically seen. In terms of financing capital, had a really nice transaction earlier in the quarter where we did a re-remix of several of our retained interests from previous deals. This was a great transaction for us because it continues to down the theme of non-mark-to-market financing. where virtually almost all of our financing now in the book is non-mark-to-market. Investment banks offer us repo facilities on those securities, but they come with mark-to-market risk, so we think this is a more elegant solution to control risk, and it was a great transaction for us. And then I guess I would just say in terms of liquidity, $72 million, so we're in real good shape there with all of our financing counterparties and have plenty of capital to grow. Turning to page four, very straightforward and simple, nice earnings growth, adding to book value as we've kind of always said is our strategy. And you can see we ticked up to $1,257 on a GAAP basis, so continuing to just focus on growing earnings and growing book value. On page five, we think that we've created a lot more value than what the GAAP book value would indicate, and this is a buildup of not only the inherent value in the platform, but also what we think is created in the future value of the business and a potential premium if someone were to be interested in acquiring the business. Suffice it to say, we think the economic value of the company is much higher than the book value on a GAAP basis. So with that, I'll turn it over to Mark on page six.
spk05: Thanks, Chris. Hi, everybody. Continuing with the financial results on page six, we can see the improved loan production as interest rate increases has slowed down. Q2 production was just under $259 million in UPV. As Chris mentioned, a 19.2% increase from the $217 million in Q1. The weighted average coupon for both Q1 and Q2 production, so far year-to-date in 2023, was 11%, and that's about a 3.25% year-over-year increase over Q2 of 2022 in our weighted average coupon. The strong production increase in Q2 at the 11% WAC demonstrates the continued borrower demand for our product. Moving to page 7 shows the strong portfolio growth attributable to the improved loan production. Our total loan portfolio as of June 30th was $3.7 billion. That's a 3.4% increase from Q1. It's a 20% increase from Q4 of last year. The weighted average coupon on our overall portfolio as of June 30th was 8.40%. That's a 25 basis point increase from the portfolio at Q1. and an 87 basis point increase year over year from Q2 2022. So we've increased our coupon, our production is growing, and all this with the LTV ratio still remaining consistent quarter over quarter at 68%. On the next page, our Q2 net interest margin remained consistent with Q1 at about three and a quarter percent. Looking at the components of net interest margin, our cost of funds increased 25 basis points quarter over quarter driven by higher utilizations of our warehouse line and costs in the warehouse line. But our portfolio yield on the loan side increased consistent, the same, increased 25 bits quarter over quarter, driven mainly by the 11% overall weighted average coupon on our year-to-date 2023 production. Net result in Q2 NIM is consistent with Q1. On page nine, our non-performing loan rate for Q2, as Chris mentioned, increased to 10%, driven by a combination of portfolio seasoning, As Chris mentioned, we did $1.7 billion last year. We did $1 billion of that really in the first six months of last year. As that portfolio starts to season, we're going to see a little bit more delinquencies and also the strong collection efforts by our special servicing department. During the first six months of 22, we funded that $1 billion. Our special servicing department is being more aggressive in collecting the efforts on the NPL loans. Of that 10% non-performing, as Chris mentioned, we're quick to put borrowers into foreclosure because that's where we get their attention. That's where we get the payoffs and the paid current that we see on the resolution table. That's where we get the gains. So that 10%, over 7.5% of that was foreclosure. Page 10 illustrates the continued success of our NPL resolution efforts. In Q2, we resolved over $50 million in non-performing UPB. for a net gain of $1.5 million over and above, collecting all the contractual principal and interest, and again, maintaining that 3% or 3-point gain on our MTL resolutions. Moving to page 11, presents our CISO loan loss reserve. The CISO reserves of June 30th was $4.6 million, or 15 BIPs of our outstanding loans held for investment and amortized cost balance. Our CISO reserve has been very consistent between 15 and 16 BIPs over the last five quarters. And just as a reminder, the loans carried at fair value that we started doing in fourth quarter of last year are not subject to a CECL reserve. Q2 charge-offs are shown on page 11 as $717,000 for the second quarter. However, subsequent to closing the books for the quarter during our post-close internal review process, we discovered that one of our servicers had received funds from a borrower in the amount of $393,000 that had not been applied through the outstanding loan balance. Taking this borrower payment into consideration, the actual Q2 charge-offs for Q2 were $324,000, not the 717, or 39 basis points of non-performing loans, not the 87, which is actually a decrease from Q1. Management determined that the adjustment was immaterial to the overall results of the quarter, and as opposed to reopening all the books, we will record this $393,000 recovery in Q3. Finally, page 12 shows our durable funding and liquidity position at the end of Q2. Total liquidity as of June 30th is $72 million, comprised of $34 million in cash and cash equivalents and another $38 million in available liquidity on our unfinanced loan collateral. As mentioned, we issued two securitizations in Q2 in April. We issued the 2023-1R security. That security is a re-REMIC. where we financed retained tranches from previous securitizations. So we re-leveraged tranches that we kept from previous securitizations. This new type of financing demonstrates the diversification in financing options for our company and is another type of very cost-effective, non-mark-to-market financing for us. This re-REMIC generated about $48 million in cash proceeds to us. And then in May, we issued the second securitization, 2023-2, which is one of our long-term normal securitizations, we issued about $202 million of securities. And then finally, our available warehouse unused capacity as of June 30th was $573 million, so still plenty of capacity to continue pursuing growth in our production. That wraps up the financials, so now I'd like to turn the presentation back to Chris for a discussion of Velocity's economic outlook. Chris?
spk01: Thanks, Mark. Looking forward, you know, we think the market is doing very well, especially in light of all of the Fed action. Continue to see very strong real estate market. I think some of the areas that were overheated have cooled down, which is good. And in terms of credit performance, we are keeping a close eye on it, but we think that we're going to do very well and continue to see good positive resolutions. a good shape from a capital position and we think we continue to grow earnings and still see strong demand for our product. So we expect to grow the portfolio and grow earnings. So we think all in all everything looks really good. So with that we'll open it up for questions.
spk00: We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question you may press star then 1 on your touch-tone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. The first question comes from Steve Delaney of JMP Securities. Please go ahead.
spk04: Good afternoon, everyone. Can you hear me? Yes. Great. Well, I had to be on my cell, so I apologize for that. Nice quarter again. I think we say that every quarter. Never gets old, Steve. Yeah, for sure. Could you speak a little bit about 23-2 and just how that execution went compared to 23-1? Sure.
spk01: Yeah, so I think I would say it was Pretty similar, not quite as strong demand as we saw in Dash 1 because it was kind of pre the banking crisis. I think things were really starting to tighten up at the beginning of the year, and then that obviously put a damper on things. But we were oversubscribed and able to get very good execution, and then, you know, we're – we're out in the market actually right now with our our next deal for q3 and wow um okay we're getting good response there so i think i think we're seeing good activity from from bond investors does the absolute rate you know you're getting 11 coupons and a lot of that obviously passes to the to the bond buyers um is that
spk04: factor? Are people looking at that as a positive, or are they scared that that's going to lead to poor credit performance with that much carry?
spk01: Yeah. I would say it's probably the former, not the latter. I mean, if you look historically over the last 18 years, that coupon is not outside of the band of where we've been. So I mean, everybody always asks, why is that the case? And, you know, et cetera. But I haven't heard anyone say it's a concern or a predictor of bad things to come.
spk04: And one for Mark, if I may, and then that'll be it for me. Nice book value growth in the quarter. We had a couple of residential credit mortgage REITs in the last 24 hours report, and they used securitizations and there were declines in book values, and obviously they marked both sides of their securitizations. I'm sure there were some credit spread impacts in this, but we saw the book value declines that were in the, you know, 4% to 5% range quarter over quarter. I was just curious, Mark, if you can comment on, you know, I know you have your HFI portfolio, and then – and now you have your fair value portfolio. I guess I'm really asking about the fair value portfolio and how that worked out in the second quarter given the increase we've seen in the tenure.
spk05: And you're exactly right. I mean, the one thing we remember what we did, we started marking our loans, our loan originations to fair value beginning with Q4 last year, October 1st of last year. Right. But then starting this year, 1st of 2023, we also elected to mark our securitizations at fair value. So you're right. There was some decline in the fair valuation of the loans quarter over quarter. But then on the converse side, because remember, our securitizations are fixed rate securitizations that exactly equal so much hedge. It's a natural hedge on the loan. So when you have a fair value loss on the loans, our natural hedge is kind of kicking in. and we picked up you'll see fair value gains on the securitization. If you look at the financials we put out the queue, you're going to see good-sized fair value gains quarter over quarter on the securitization. So that's kind of what maintains that growth in book value is that natural hedge of that securitized portfolio.
spk04: Okay.
spk05: All right.
spk04: Well, I will leave it there and give someone else a chance for questions. Thanks for your comments. Thanks, Steve.
spk00: As a reminder, if you have a question, please press star 1. The next question comes from Steven Laws of Raymond James. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hi, good afternoon. As Steve mentioned before me, nice quarter again. It seems pretty recurring here, and I know you guys see some tailwinds in the business. And, Mark, I really want to start with that. Can you talk about the you know, competitive landscape or lack thereof from the banks. I know three months ago we talked on the call and you talked about being able to improve kind of your underwriting credit standards on new production and maybe getting some stuff that, you know, possibly would have gone to banks previously. You know, have banks pulled back even more? Have they reentered at all? Can you maybe give us an update on those comments versus last quarter?
spk01: Sure. That was directed to Mark or...
spk02: I think I'm going to go to Chris. Oh, no, I'm sorry, Chris. That's for you.
spk01: Okay. Got it. Okay.
spk02: Sorry, Mark, you chipped in, but sorry, that's for you, Chris.
spk01: No problem. Yeah, I would say the environment feels pretty similar to where it was in Q1. I don't think it's gotten worse or better, but definitely seeing the banks be cautious and we're hearing – from borrowers who come to us and say, I can't believe, you know, the bank wouldn't do this for me. Can you guys help me out? So, um, I would say the opportunity set seems to be about the same.
spk02: Right. And then as far as your origination volumes, as you look out and apologies covered it in the first couple of minutes, I'll touch late, but, um, you know, it seems like picked up a little in Q2. I know early in Q1, you guys had sort of become cautious, got more active later in the quarter. Do you think you're kind of at your normal run rate here for the second half? Do you think things are more likely to maybe pick up, go down? Kind of how do you, you know, frame volume as we move through the back half of the year and into 24?
spk01: Yeah, I think this is a good run rate. I think, you know, we're projecting for the rest of the year. And I think, you know, we think that we'll end the year, you know, right around a billion dollars. So I think this feels right.
spk02: Great. Well, again, nice quarter and appreciate the comments this afternoon.
spk01: Thanks, Stephen.
spk00: This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Chris Farrar for closing remarks.
spk01: Thanks, everybody, for joining. We appreciate all your support and look forward to talking to you again next quarter.
spk00: The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.
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