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spk00: Good afternoon and welcome to the Velocity Financial Q2 2024 conference call. All participants will be in the listen-only mode. Should you need any assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Chris Altman. Please go ahead.
spk04: Thank you, Rachel. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for the discussion of Velocity's second quarter 2024 results. Joining me today are Chris Farrar, Velocity's president and chief executive officer, and Mark Spaniak, Velocity's chief financial officer. Earlier this afternoon, we released our second quarter results, and you can find this press release and accompanying presentation that we will refer to today during this call on our investor relations website at www.vellfinance.com. I'd like to remind everyone that today's call may include forward-looking statements which are uncertain and outside of the company's control and actual results may differ materially. For discussion of some of the risk and other factors that could affect results, please see the risk factors and other cautionary statements made in our communications with shareholders including the risk factors disclosed and are following with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Please also note that the content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, and we do not undertake any duty to update forward-looking statements. We may also refer to certain non-GAAP measures on this call. For reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures, you should refer to the earnings materials on our investor relations website. And finally, Today's call is being recorded and will be available on the company's website later today. And with that, I would like to turn the call over to Chris Farrar.
spk06: Thanks, Chris, and thank you all for joining our second quarter earnings call. After the close, we reported another great quarter as our business continues to perform well across all segments. Our net revenue increased 41% over the prior year's quarter, resulting in a 23% increase in core earnings. Our originations were healthy with a 63 percent increase in volume versus Q2 23. And importantly, we maintained our margins and credit standards. Our portfolio is performing well, and our special servicing team continues to do a great job of resolving delinquent assets favorably. Our charge-offs remain low, and we realized over $2 million in net gain from our REO activity this quarter. As a result of our increased originations, We issued two securitizations in April and June. Both deals priced well and saw strong demand from our bond investors. As a reminder, we're required to expense all issuance costs associated with those deals in the current period, which is a drag on current period earnings, but the tradeoff is increased spreads going forward as we have no amortization expense to recognize on this debt. Real estate market is performing well for us, and we continue to see strong demand for financing from our borrowers. Banks are still constrained, and we're starting to see the market price in future rate cuts, both of which should be a tailwind for us going forward. I want to congratulate all my team members on another great quarter, as I truly appreciate their commitment to excellence. We will continue to execute our five by 25 growth strategy to reach five billion in UP by 2025 with the ultimate goal of rewarding all shareholders. That concludes my prepared remarks and we'll turn over to page three in the earnings presentation to go through some of the numbers. As I mentioned, good, strong growth in core earnings, up to 45 cents a share for the quarter. The NIM widened out from earlier 2Q of 23 by 30 BIPs, again, showing up as a result of the increased WAC from new originations. In terms of loan production, $422 million in UPB, and total portfolio growth on a year-over-year basis of 20%. The NPL loans were up slightly to 10.5%, and we continue to still see positive resolutions on those NPLs and expect to do that going forward. In terms of the financing capital, I mentioned earlier that we had done two securitizations during the quarter. We highlighted here that there was a a six cent per share drag on current period earnings from that second securitization as compared to prior periods where we were typically issuing just one securitization. And as I said, that's sort of a timing issue. It will depend on going forward each quarter how many deals we issue, but should also help in terms of the NIM going forward. Century Health and Housing acquired $3.6 million in MSRs from a bank that originated some recent Ginnie Mae loans. That was a great trade for us because we're continuing to build out the platform and establish new relationships with new borrowers for more business. In terms of liquidity, Uh, we're in a strong position there. You can see, um, just under $84 million at the end of the quarter with plenty of warehouse capacity to go forward on, uh, on page four, we, uh, break out the core adjustments here. Um, and then also on the right hand side, um, as most of you remember, there's a buildup here to our adjusted book value per share. I will point out that we had a typo there in the far right. If you add the 239 to the 1452 of book value, it should be 1691, not 1681. So we're correcting that as we hold the call, and that'll be on the website shortly. But again, continuing to grow book value nicely as we execute on our growth strategy and retain earnings. on a go-forward basis. So that covers it for me, and I'll turn it over to Mark on page five.
spk05: Thanks, Chris. Hi, everybody. In Q2, we continued our strong 2024 performance. On page five, our loan production for Q2, as Chris mentioned, was a little over $422 million in UPV. It was an 11.5% increase from the $378.7 million in Q1. Kind of to note, there were over 1,100 loans funded in the second quarter, so it's a great demand for the product. The strong production growth during Q2 was achieved with the weighted average coupon for the new originations remaining at 11%, continuing a five-quarter trend of an 11% coupon. This growth in originations in Q2 was also very tight credit levels with the weighted average loan-to-value for the quarter at 64.7%. The strong Q2 production growth with the high WAC and the low LTV, again, demonstrates the continued consistent borrower demand for the product. As a result of the strong growth in production, page six, we see a similar growth in Q2 for the overall loan portfolio. Our total loan portfolio as of June 30th was almost $4.5 billion. It's a 4.6% increase from Q1 and over a 20% increase year over year in the portfolio. The weighted average coupon on this portfolio as of June 30th was 9.25%, which is an 18 basis point increase from the Q1 weighted average coupon and an 85 basis point year over year increase. The portfolio weighted average loan to value ratio remained consistently low at 67.4 as of June 30th. On page seven, our Q2 portfolio NIM increased 19 basis points from Q1 and 30 basis points year over year. as our portfolio yield component increased 27 basis points quarter-over-quarter and 74 basis points year-over-year, while our cost of funds increased only eight basis points quarter-over-quarter and 43 basis points year-over-year. This quarter-over-quarter increase in NIMS, mainly driven by, again, the strong loan production growth in the quarter and healthy spreads, the higher coupons, and also due to the recent improvement in the securitization market, keeping the costs fairly low. On page 8, our non-performing loan rate at the end of Q2, as Chris mentioned, was 10.5% compared to 10.1% for Q1. Our non-performing loan rate has remained consistent for the last five quarters, and the ongoing collection efforts by our Special Servicing Department continues to result in resolutions of our MPL loans at favorable gains. The table on nine, page nine, highlights the continued success of the NPL resolution efforts. And again, on a trend basis, we continue to average about a 2% or more overall gain on NPL resolutions over the last five quarters. Page 10 reflects our CECL loan loss reserve and also the net loan charge off and REO activity. On the bottom left-hand chart, the CECL reserve as of June 30th was 5.2 million or 20 basis points. of our outstanding non-fair value loan health investment portfolio. The CECL Reserve is within our expected range. The CECL Loan Loss Reserve, remember, does not include our loans being carried at fair value. It's only the amortized cost loans. The table to the bottom right shows our net gain and loss from loan charge-offs and REO-related activities during the quarter. And for Q2, we had a net gain on loan charge-offs and REO-related activities of a little over $2 million. compared to a slight net loss of only $800,000 for Q1. So again, doing really well on low loan charge-offs, selling a lot of these REOs at a gain and booking a net gain activity for the quarter. Page 11 shows our durable funding and liquidity position at the end of Q2. As Chris mentioned, our total liquidity as of June 30th was just under $84 million. And that's made up of over $47 million in cash and cash equivalents and another about $36, $36.5 million and available liquidity on our unfinanced collateral. As a result of our strong loan production, we did issue two securizations in Q2. April, we issued our 2024-2 security with 286 million of securities issued. And in June, we issued our 2024-3 security with almost 205 million of securities issued. Our available warehouse line capacity was 646.5 million at the end of the quarter with a maximum line capacity of 885. So still plenty of available capacity on our existing warehouse lines to support future growth for the company. I'd like to now turn the presentation back to Chris to overview Velocity's outlook on key business drivers. Chris.
spk06: Thanks, Mark. Yeah, I think looking forward, you know, we feel good about where we're headed and I feel like the markets are healthy and see good activity both on the real estate side and the borrower side. In terms of credit, seeing a lot of mixed signals out there obviously feels like the Fed's probably going to do some softening here. But we do expect to continue to get those positive NPL resolutions on a go-forward basis. Securitization market's healthy and feels good going forward, so we're very positive there. And from an earnings perspective, you know, just continue to execute like we do, and we think that things look very good for the future. So with that, we'll open it up for questions.
spk00: Thank you. We'll now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your touch-tone phone. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing the keys. To withdraw your question, please press star then two. The first question comes from Steven Laws with Raymond James. Please go ahead.
spk02: Hi, good afternoon and congratulations on a very nice second quarter. Chris, on page five with the loan production, I mean, really strong across the board. The investor loans have rebounded, you know, from a little seasonality in Q1, showing pretty consistent growth in commercial and particularly short-term loan products. So that was this $140 million a month pay. Can you see the going there? Do you think this is the right, you know, origination? So I'm not sure I can do the ramp. And, you know, be great.
spk06: Yeah. Hi, Stephen. You cut out a little bit there, but I think your question was just going forward. What do we think on production levels? Yeah. You know, I would expect for the rest of the year, you know, around this Q2 run rate feels right. And I think, you know, sometimes the product mix moves around a little bit, but it'll be something like you're seeing here in Q2. And so, yeah, I think for the rest of the year, we think it should look pretty similar to that.
spk02: Great. Do you have an update maybe on the address that, you know, the rate move, you know, quarter to date? Curious how, you know, how that fair value mark may have changed as of end of July.
spk06: Yeah. You know, I mean, if we were to mark today, yeah, you're right. There would definitely be a change. To the positive, obviously, it's going to be largely dependent on where things settle out at the end of the quarter. So if things were to stay where they are today, yes, I think you'd see an increase in the overall book from the drop in base rates for sure.
spk02: Great. And then last request, any comments around that? Are you seeing any banks return to the market? They're really continuing to put up 11% coupons, so probably not too competitive, but curious about any returning interest.
spk06: Yeah, not hearing much there. Seeing a lot of borrowers come to us that I think normally would expect to be handled by the banks, so I'm not really seeing any signs of that, and Everything that I hear is just, they're very constrained and limited on the new credit.
spk02: Great. Well, congrats again on a nice breath, and thanks for the comments this afternoon.
spk06: Thank you. Appreciate it, Stephen.
spk00: Your next question comes from Steve Delaney, the Citizen JMP. Please go ahead.
spk03: Good evening, everyone, and a great quarter. just kind of remarkable, Chris, the consistency of your production. And, you know, the market is the market. But do you, if you come right down to it, do you tie that to your relationships with brokers and borrowers? And is it really a defensible market presence that you have that somebody's not going to just come in and undercut you on rates and steal that loan flow. Yeah. It's the franchise, right? It's the brand.
spk06: Yeah, I think so. We've always believed that this was an underserved niche. It's highly fragmented. There are a lot of different players out there. We kind of just stick to our knitting. Because we are a portfolio lender and we have this spread income that comes in. We don't feel the same pressure that other originators do to, you know, always put as much volume on the sheets as we can. We can be more disciplined around margin. So, you know, yeah, I think people, our customers certainly recognize that we're reliable and there's a certainty of execution there. And so I think that loyalty shows up in in our margins and in our production volumes.
spk03: Yep. Yep. So you've, you've been on about a, you've got sort of a commitment, a target 11%, you know, just in the last couple of months since late May, the 10 years off 70 dips. And, you know, if we get three or four cuts, you know, over the next six to nine months, is that not going to have to have some kind of impact? on your rate? I mean, how, how are you thinking about you guys thinking about it internally is in modeling, like when the world, when the, when, when market rates change, you know, are you going to have to respond? Are you going to be like a credit card? Your credit cards are 18 to 21% regardless of where crime and fed funds are. Yeah.
spk06: Yeah. Yeah. Good question. Yeah. We, we, we lowered rates, uh, couple weeks ago when and so we monitored the bond markets we took rates just down a quarter point so um we we won't necessarily move lockstep with with you know the markets because there is some volatility there but you know we we priced our debt mainly off of sort of somewhere between three to five year bonds depending on the you know weighted average life and so That's kind of where we focus. We keep an eye on those shorter bond rates, and we adjust for those base rate movements. So, yeah, I mean, I think if it continues, you know, we'll follow the market. We'll pass that along to our borrowers, and, you know, as long as we're maintaining our spread, we're happy.
spk03: Right. So your securizations, obviously, are fixed rate funds. I guess the only benefit you would get On the liability side, I assume your warehouse lines are floating on SOFR, right? Right. Correct. Yeah, so you will get some carry benefit there, obviously, although we're obviously offset a little bit by the lower coupons on the lines. All right, well, great quarter. You keep beating estimates every quarter, so I guess we're going to have to crank it up a little bit to catch up with you on that. I'm sorry. Thank you. Don't crank it up too much, Stephen. Yeah, no, we won't.
spk00: We won't.
spk03: We just like the fact that we're a target every time we turn around. That's the good part of it. Congratulations, guys. Thanks so much. Appreciate it.
spk00: Once again, if you wish to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from Eric Hayden with BCIG. Please go ahead.
spk01: Hey, thanks. Good afternoon. Hope you guys are well. Following up a little bit on the origination side, I mean, from an operational and underwriting standpoint, do you feel like you're originating at capacity right now, or how much more kind of operational leverage do you think you could potentially, like, extract and originate with your current cost structure right now?
spk06: Yeah. Hi, Eric. Thanks. You know, we've spent a lot of money on technology and In order to do 1,000 units a quarter, you've got to have that in place. So I think we have excess capacity. I don't know. I'd say probably 10% to 20% more. As we go into the end of the year, we probably will increase some headcount to accommodate hopefully some growth. But it's at the margin, and it's not too significant. So I think we can can add quite a bit more volume with not too much to the cost structure.
spk01: Yep. Okay, that's really helpful. Thanks for giving some context there. I mean, what do you feel like is the all-in kind of ROE from originating and delivering into securitization with spreads at these levels, even if you have like a benchmark for the two deals that you did last quarter? And if we see securitization spreads tighten, I mean, what does that mean for your ROE? Is there a way to kind of benchmark that and sensitize that?
spk06: Yeah, yeah, good question. You know, we think that the ROEs are north of 25% at these levels. If spreads tighten, you know, we'll see the benefit of that over a multi-year period, obviously, because we're locking in fixed-rate loans against fixed-rate debt. Yeah, if we see some tightening in the spreads, I think that could significantly boost ROE on the go-forward deals. Obviously, it's a blend of all of the transactions, but at the margin, I think new stuff is well north of 25.
spk01: Really helpful. Thank you guys so much.
spk06: Thank you, Eric.
spk00: This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back to you, Mr. Chris Farrer, for any closing remarks.
spk06: Thanks, everyone, for joining the call. We appreciate your support, and we're going to just continue to execute on our plan and look forward to speaking to everyone next quarter. Thank you.
spk05: Thank you, everybody, for your time.
spk00: The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. We may now disconnect.
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