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Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Vivo's fourth quarter 2023 earnings call. This conference is being recorded and the replay will be available at the company's website at ri.telefonica.com.br. The presentation will also be available for download. This call is also available in Portuguese. To access, you can press on the globe icon located on the lower right side of your Zoom screen and then choose to enter the Portuguese room. After that, select Mute Original Audio for a better experience. To access our conference in Portuguese, click on the globe icon located in the lower right corner of your Zoom screen and select the Portuguese Room option. When accessing the new room, make sure to mute the original audio for a better experience. We would like to inform you that all attendees will only be listening to the conference during the presentation, and then we will start the Q&A session when further instructions will be provided. Before proceeding, we would like to clarify that any statements that may be made during this conference call regarding the company's business prospects, operational and financial projections and goals are the beliefs and assumptions of Vivo's Executive Board and the current information available to the company. These statements may involve risks and uncertainties as they relate to future events and therefore depends on circumstances that may or may not occur. Investors should be aware of events related to the macroeconomic scenario, the industry and other factors that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the respective forward-looking statements. Present at this conference, we have Mr. Christian Jabara, CEO of the company, Mr. David Malcolm, CFO and Investor Relations Officer, and Mr. João Pedro Soares Carneiro, IR Director. Now, I'll turn the conference over to Mr. João Pedro Soares Carneiro, Investor Relations Director of Vivo. Please, Mr. Carneiro, you may begin your conference.

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Vivo's fourth quarter and full year 2023 earnings call. Christian Gimara, our CEO, will walk us through Vivo's operational and financial performance, followed by an update on our digital ecosystem and ESG evolution. Then, David Melcon, our CFO, will go through our cost and CapEx management, free cash flow generation, and outlook for shareholder remuneration. With that, I turn the call over to Christian.

Thank you, João. Good morning, everyone. I hope you all had a great start to 2024. Firstly, I would like to invite you all to join us for our Vivo Day that will be held during the morning of March 5th at Teatro Vivo in São Paulo. The event will be an excellent opportunity to hear from Vivo's top executives about our strategy for the next few years. We look forward to seeing you there. Now moving to the results, we close out the year with another record-breaking quarterly performance. Our customer base totalled 113 million access, one of the largest among all Brazilian companies. With Postpaid and Fibre continuing to expand allowing for sustained real top-line growth. Total revenue increased by 6.9% year-over-year in the fourth quarter and 8.4% in the full year. Looking at mobile service revenue, the performance was even better, up 8.7% in the last quarter and 10.8% in the year. We are able once again to combine growth with improved profitability. EBITDA grew 9.9% year-over-year in the quarter, thus closing the year up 10.6% versus 2022. As a result of EBITDA expansion and CapEx intensity reduction, cooperating cash flow accelerated to R$12.4 billion in 2023, while free cash flow generation expanded double-digit on an annual comparison to R$8.1 billion. Bottom line performance was also a highlight, as net income hit R$5 billion in 2023, up 23%. This strong result gives us further confidence to maintain a robust level of shareholder remuneration, as the view will detail later. On slide 4, we show our consistent revenue expansion. In the mobile segment, that represented over 70% of total revenue in the quarter, we saw an increase of 8.4% year-over-year as Vibo is in the best position to meet customers' ever-growing needs for connectivity and tech products. Fixed revenues fueled by fiber continue to show a positive evolution. As we outpace the market in connecting homes and businesses with FTTH and offer the broadest portfolio of digital services, we see a clear path to maintain this trend going forward. Moving to slide five, you can see the enhancement of two key mobile KPIs, churn and ARPU. Postpaid churn reached its lowest historical level, 0.97% per month, demonstrating the results of offering the best-in-class value proposition. At the same time, Postpaid continues to gain relevance within the overall mix, and we have increased the penetration of digital services across our customer base, resulting in an ARPU growth of 8% year-over-year, reaching its highest level in the last four years. The accelerated adoption of 5G will be another driver supporting further demand for mobile connectivity. During the fourth quarter of 2023, 5G ready device represented 89% of all smartphones sold by Vivo and more than 30% of pure prospect customers already had a 5G ready smartphone. We expect this ramp up to continue in 2024 with more and more customers having access to the benefits of this technology. Turning to slide 6, we comment on Vivo's fiber operation. We have the largest and fastest growing FTTH footprint, which is available to 26.2 million homes and businesses throughout Brazil. By the end of the year 2024, our target is to reach 29 million homes past. During 2023, we led the market in ad additions, connecting almost 700,000 fiber customers while improving FTTH ARPO evolution as well. Moreover, Vivo Total, our convergent offer that combines fiber and mobile post-paid services, totalled 1.3 million customers, more than double than previous year. This unique value proposition puts Vivo in a privileged position to address the opportunities around convergence, and the recent demand for this product is a positive indicator of its potential going forward. Moving to slide seven, we showed that digital B2B services summed up to 3.4 billion reais in 2023, up 25% year over year. During the last three years, these services increased this relevance over Veebus total revenues from 3.3% in 2020 to 6.5% in 2023. We see room for this to continue as Vivo has the best B2B sales team and portfolio of solutions to help Brazilian companies of different sizes and sectors in their digitalization process. recently the brazilian mobile industry launched three anti-fraud network services and became a pioneer of open gateway with a global initiative led by the telecom sector in collaboration of gsma aimed at transforming telcos network into programmable platforms through standardized apis the apis launched by bibo and our peers are focused on combating on combating digital fraud in financial institutions such as banks and fintechs through number verification, swim swap and device location. The GSMA Open Gateway ecosystem in Brazil will experience significant improvements throughout 2024 with new partners joining the initiative. Moving to slide eight, we bring an update of some of the key new sources of revenues in B2C. Financial services revenues totaled 403 million reais in 2023, which represented 0.8% of Vivo's total revenue, up 36% year-over-year. One of the highlights was Vivo Money that finished the year with a portfolio of R$358 million in personal loans, doubling versus the previous year. There was also an expansion of the smartphone insurance customer base that grew 20% year-over-year and now offers coverage for over 300,000 devices. The distribution of video and music OTTs through our invoices generated 563 million reais in revenues during this year, corresponding to 1.1% of Vivo's total revenues. These partnerships with the main content providers keep on contributing to differentiate our offer, increase our share of wallet and decrease churn. Throughout 2023, we expanded our consumer electronics portfolio beyond smartphones, comprising of six different categories. Accessories, smart homes, games, wellness, audios and notebooks. This complete portfolio boosted our Black Friday sales and was the main driver for the 52% revenue growth. If we sum up revenues from financial services, OTTs and consumer electronics, they totaled R$1.3 billion or 2.6% of Vivo's total revenues in 2023. We are confident about the evolution of these initiatives and we'll give you more details at our upcoming Vivo Day. Turning to slide nine, I'm proud to share more important recognitions of our commitment to ESG in the year that marked our 25th listing anniversary in B3 and New York Stock Exchange. Vivo was considered the most sustainable company in Brazil by B3, Corporate Sustainability Index. We were also ranked as one of the most sustainable companies in the world by the SAP Sectorial Ranking and by Corporate Knights. on the environmental front people reduced emissions from its operation scope one and two by ninety percent since 2015 reaching the first target of our net zero plan as a result during cop 28 people received the climate guardian award Moreover, we were successful in making our team a better reflection of Brazil's diversity, with 37% of executive leadership positions occupied by women and 42% of employees self-declared Black. Now Davi will comment on our financial performance.

Thank you, Christian, and good morning, everyone. On slide 10, we break down our cost structure into two parts. First, cost of services and goods sold increased 2.6% year-over-year, reflecting higher revenues from the sale of customer electronics and the acceleration of B2B revenues. Then, cost of operations grew 6% year-over-year as costs related to the higher commercial activity and customer base expansion were partially compensated by a continued focus on digitalization and streamlining. I would also like to highlight that during the quarter we registered a positive net effect of R$ 292 million related to the renegotiation of tower leasing contracts coming from the OI Mobile acquisition that was partially offset by lower levels of tax recoveries and sale of legacy network equipment on a year-over-year basis. As a consequence of this, leasing renegotiation, we have canceled all the unused towers acquired from OI, corresponding to 70% of the sites coming from this taxation, reducing our IFRS 16 debt and enabling savings that boost our free cash flow from 2024 onwards. Overall, total costs were up 4.8% year-over-year, well below the evolution of total revenues, translating into a strong EBITDA margin of 42.5%, up 1.1 percentage point. This improvement in vivo profitability reflects our commitment to cost efficiency. Turning to slide 11, we close out the year with capex below R9 billion as guided, which translates into an important reduction of our capex to sales ratio, dropping from 20% in 2022 to 17% in 2023. This unique combination of reduced capital intensity with improved profitability translated into a strong 26.7% year-over-year operating cash flow growth that led us to the highest operating cash flow margin ever at 23.7%. We are positive about the CAPEX outlook as we shut down legacy technologies such as copper, 2G, 3G, and focus on investment on future-proof networks like fiber and 5G. Additionally, revenues from new businesses are capex light and contribute to a lower capex intensity. Moving to slide 12, we saw the progress of Vivo profitability metrics. Net income was 23% higher than the previous year, reaching 5 billion reais in 2023. And free cash flow generation grew double digit, reaching 8.1 billion reais. This improvement in our cash position combined with the payment of senior debt and 5G licenses obligations allowed financial net debt to reduce substantially in comparison to the previous year. Even if we include IFRS 16 leases, leverage remained well controlled at 0.7 times EBITDA. All these metrics demonstrate how robust Vivo's financial position is, placing us in an unmatched position that combines growth with profitability. Now let's move to slide 13. Here we detail the components of 223 shareholder cash remuneration and our guidance for the period 2024-2026. Throughout 2023, we paid 2.5 billion Reais of interest on capital, 1.8 billion Reais in dividend, and we executed almost 500 million Reais of our Save by Back program, totaling 4.8 billion Reais in shareholder remuneration. In December 2023, we canceled 11 million shares, corresponding to 0.7% of the company's total share, in addition to the 13 million shares already canceled in February 2023. In November 2023, we released to the market a formal guidance of our commitment to pay to shareholders a value equal to or greater than 100% of net income in 2024, 2025, and 2026. The distribution of resources to shareholders will be through dividends, interest on capital, capital stock reduction and share buybacks. The first tranche of the capital reduction in the value of 1.5 billion reais was approved at the extraordinary shareholder meeting held on January this year and will be paid before the end of July 2024. As you can see, Vivo finished the year in a stronger financial position and with several instruments to consolidate its position as a leading company in terms of growth, profitability, and shareholder remuneration.

Thank you and now we can move to the Q&A. Our first question comes from Fred Mendes from Bank of America. Please, Mr. Mendes, your microphone is open.

Thank you. Hello. Good morning, everyone. And thanks for the call. I have two questions here. The first one related to the working capital. uh there was a major decline part over quarter that's basically like 900 million reais in the suppliers line i think that was the main driver for the negative working capital and my understanding is that you guys opted to pay to prepay some contracts due to better financial conditions so just trying to understand this move i think it happened also in the fourth q22 but not at the same magnitude so just trying to understand what happened and what we can expect next on this front this will be my first one then my second one related to the line others just to understand this renegotiation of towers related to the os deal if this is a a benefit that we can continue to see forward that's basically something that only happened in this quarter anyways and i think any explanation this line will be very helpful as well thank you very much

Thank you, Fred. Regarding the first question on the working capital, during the last few years, we have consistently shown a very strong free cash flow. In fact, this year we grew almost 12%. However, if we look across the quarters, there is always some sectionality impacting mainly the last quarter of every year. So if we look specifically this year, the last quarter, as you say, there is some payments, more payments on to suppliers at the end of the year. But this is a normal business that we do normally do. And there is also impacted by lower taxes recovery that we had in this period now. So it's important to look at the working capital in 12 months basis and not just for single quarters now. So for the future, I would say the sustainability of the cash flow is mainly on the back of a very strong EBITDA that we had also this year, and this is what we had over the last few years. Also reduce capex intensity. That is also what we expect also for the future. And also in terms of control on IFRS 16 payments and finally tax payments that we are also controlling thanks to acceleration also on interest on capital that we declare this quarter and we continue doing it. So this is on the first one. Regarding the second one, Fred, on the other revenues, the other revenues and costs include several items. And again, also show some volatility during the quarters. This quarter, the main one, as you say, have to do with the towers. But even if we look to the total amount, this quarter, we have 349 million reais. But if we look to the fourth quarter last year, the number was also above 300, was 303 million. So this quarter, as I say, mainly is the negotiation of towers that is also compensated by other less positive coming from taxes and lower network equipment sales that we have previous year and we didn't have that one. So for me, the most important, even if you stripped out the line of further revenues and cost this quarter and also the previous year, The EBITDA growth for the quarter will have been similar to the reported amounting to around 9.6. And if you do the same for the full year, the EBITDA growth will have been exactly the same, 10.6. So this is something that is very, you need to look to the functionality that we have every year, but at the end of the day, our growth is mainly on the sustainability and the strong performance of the commercial side.

Perfect. Super clear, Davi. Thank you, Christian, as well.

Thank you. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Marcelo Santos from JP Morgan. Please, Mr. Santos, your microphone is open.

Hi, good morning, Christian, Davi, Joel. Thanks for the opportunity to ask questions. I think, Davi, you mentioned in your explanation on the future free cash flow to the Fred question that you expect lower CapEx intensity. Could you please, is it possible to share a bit more light on how do you expect CapEx to behave? Your plan to deploy HomesPath, I think it ends next year, right? You're close to getting to your goal. How would CapEx behave after that? So any color there I think would be interesting. And also on the margin outlook, you had a strong margin this year. There were some effects in the other line, but as you mentioned, if you exclude the other line, also the EBITDA increased well. How do you see margins going forward? Is there room for some expansion of margin in the coming years? These are the two questions. Thank you.

So, I would take this 1, Marcelo, thank you for the question regarding capex. We are not giving a number for the year. I think what I want to highlight and regarding the capital intensity reduction that you mentioned is that in 2022. Uh, last year, I think we highlighted that we had an extraordinary year because we had to integrate the customer base and we had some of the auctions obligations that impacted the capex. That was higher. No, that was 9.5 that we had in 2022. and then we said that in 2023. Our caps would reach a maximum of 9B and. you filled and it was 8.96. That's the reality of the capex. And if you look at the intensity over sales, we went in 2022, 19.8% and ended 2023, 17.2%. That's the trend that we see going down, capex intensity over sales. We're not giving a number, but we are giving this trend that is going to be negative in the sense of reducing capex over sales. Here, there are the impact of growing sales as well. That's also benefiting. And we are also doing what you just described, reaching 29 million home paths by the end of this year. that's the plan that we have for the year we continue expanding 5g we continue continue to connect customers over the the network we had like the net ads of 700 000 customers in fiber now reaching 6.2 and million customers connected with vivo fiber by the end of last year and we continue being very attractive commercially and responding to the demand that we have so that's more or less the highlight that we have for for the cafes and then if you have additional questions i reply Regarding the margin, we are not talking about the EBITDA margin. I think also some of your colleagues also gave a very good report on operating cash flow margin. That's our focus here because we are combining services with higher margin with others, with lower EBITDA margin than the digital service that I described before, but with no capex involved. So here, what I think we just highlighted in this call as well is that we went for an operating cash flow margin of 20.3% in 2022 to 23.7% in the end of 2023. So we have the objective of continue to grow revenue and EBITDA in absolute numbers and also the objective of improving operating cash flow margin.

Okay, thank you. Very clear. Thank you, Marcelo.

Our next question comes from Eduardo Rubi from UBS. Please, Mr. Rubi, your microphone is open.

Hi, good morning, everyone. Thank you, Christian, David, João. One question from my side. We saw cash leasing expense have risen quarter over quarter, but there was a reduction looking year over year. Could you give some more color on this number going forward, considering negotiation with contracts with Towers, please?

Hi, Eduardo. Thank you for the question. Look, we expect the FRS 60 in depth related to the CAPEX under control. So what we are focusing on this year, we have renegotiated the sites acquired from OI that we have canceled 70% of those 2.8 thousand sites that were acquired. So we are keep analyzing opportunities to also to reduce this IFRS 16. So for example, the network sharing with team is something that is bringing efficiencies to reduce infrastructure costs. And also we keep exploring alternatives to optimize both the monetary costs to the negotiation with the towers company, but as well as being more efficient on the deployment of the new sites that we are currently doing around the 5G deployment. So this is, I cannot, we cannot give you any guidance on what number is going to be, but what they say, this is very relevant for us. So it's under control and we are optimizing on a quarterly basis.

No, that's very good. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Victor Tomita from Goldman Sachs. Please, Mr. Tomita, your microphone is open.

Hello, good morning, all, and thanks for taking our questions. Two questions from our side. The first one is on broadband. If you could give us an update on how you are seeing competition in the broadband market, and if you are already seeing some reduced aggressiveness from broadband competitors. And our second question would be on M&A. If you have any updates on M&A strategy for the fiber segment, considering OI and other potential targets that might be on the table right now. Thank you.

So, Victor, yes, the fiber market continues to be very competitive. Now, as you know, we have like thousands of players in the different cities of the country, and we have like different type of competitors depending on the geography. It didn't stop us to continue with our strong strategy of deploying. pass so that was a good year that we increased the the deployment but more importantly i think vivo was the the the leader in that class of the markets so it was positive for us as well so we we increased our customer base and more than 700 000 customers uh during this period At the same time, we are also able to increase ARPU. That also shows that we are very rational in our strategy. We increase ARPU with higher speeds and also blending with the connectivity digital services. Now, I also described during my speech that we have been very strong in deploying OTTs together with Fibre and Mobire. So that's also improving our profitability. Also highlighting here that our convergent offer, Mobire plus Fibre, was also a great hit of this year. So increased in more than 2.3 times the number of customers already in this plan that we call Vivo Total. So competition will be there. but i think we are we are like standing out for quality for channel for support and of course for combining more services to the same customer uh regarding m&a every call there is something like there's something new know about like targets that are on sale or trying to be bought by anyone so we are always looking at everything that is the market being the leader no having uh the the network that we have and having the the number of customers and revenues coming from this business of course we are always checking the available uh assets in the market here there are many considerations to take into account overlap the quality of the network and in the case that you just described there is also The client co-frontier here is more complex because the company is in the judicial recovery plan, that is, you know, so we need to understand everything and the impact of having, again, a new PI in this new plan and how it is going to be evolving as a client co-perspective. But secondly, we need to understand the relationship of the client go with the fiber, the neutral fiber network that they are connected to. So they're here. There isn't a commercial agreement that we don't have a visibility that needs to be understood to understand better if it's attractive or not for people.

Thank you very much. Very clear.

Thank you. Thank you.

Our next question comes from Marco Nargini from XP. Please, Mr. Nargini, your microphone is open.

Hello, good morning, Krish and Gavi. Thank you for taking my question. So, quick follow-up here regarding fixed broadband in the last question. It's impressive to see that you grew 3% year-over-year after the HR pool. Can you comment on churn here, please, after price increases? And what do you expect on fixed broadband growth in 2024, both in terms of customer base and price adjustments, if there's still room, please? Thank you.

So, Marco, we don't give the number of churn, but it's in the minimal level, historical level. So we are very strong in controlling churn. So churn is not an issue at the moment for us in fiber. ARPU has been increased by the penetration of higher speeds. as i also mentioned before people this service became essential also people are willing to pay more to have a better speed and also we are now driving also the market for a different conception of connected home with smart homes so apart from just selling the connectivity we want to sell also wi-fi capability in different rooms that is also demanded by customers and we're going to go even further having connected devices for people who really want to have an automated home also we are blending and putting together as i said video ott's that's something that is also uh being uh positive in the output increase and also in the in the reducing churn no as as much as we are able to have more services to the same customer of course they are the desire to move from a different provider will be even lower. And again, the mobile and the Vivo Total is also another strategy that we have. Price, you related to fiber. We do annual increase, as we normally do, based on the inflation of the period. So nothing new to share here. We continue to be very rational because we understand investment is high.

and we need to return on this investment so continue with the same with same strategy perfect thanks thank you thank you our next question comes from gabriel vaz from morgan stanley please mr vas your microphone's open

Hi guys, thank you very much for taking my question. I just wanted to get a bit more color on what you're seeing in the first quarter trends for 2024. Any color you can share in terms of what you're expecting on growth and if you're still seeing a path for above inflation growth, that's it.

Yeah, like we just had like one month and something. So again, we continue with a good commercial momentum, but we're not sharing numbers. So there's nothing different from what we end the year. So it's a positive sign. So we continue to be optimistic about the year. If interest rates are going down, there is also maybe increased consumption in both B2C and B2B. I think also, Gabriel, we are giving a little bit more color on the Vivo Day. So for the moment, we are not giving any trends.

Perfect. Thank you.

Thank you.

Our next question comes from Carlos De Liguerita from Itaú BBA. Please, Mr. De Liguerita, your microphone is open.

Just two quick ones on my side. The first one on B2B revenue, obviously you have a very good year in terms of growth. I'm wondering what's the driver behind that? Is it you're gaining new customers? Are you going to perhaps are you gaining contracts? What is your expectation for 2024? And secondly, we just haven't had a chance to discuss the JV without an energy. You can talk about that. What's the opportunity, the size? I know until we already approved it. So if you can talk about it, that would be great. Thank you.

Perfect, Carlos. So B2B here, I think we have a unique value proposition in B2B. First, there is, I think, no other company with the strength of our commercial channel. We're talking about more than 5,000 sales reps distributed among the different segments that we have here. We have segments in the size of the companies. We go from the small company to the largest companies of the country, but also we have also segmented by sectors. That is, I think, the new thing that we just did in the corporate customers that we go to banking or we go to industry or we go to retail and agro and there are others. So I think we have a very deep understanding of the needs based on the size and the vertical. That gives us, of course, a relationship with customer base that is very difficult to replicate. And all these new services that we see in digital service that are cloud, cyber, IoT, big data, they are all based on the connectivity. So once we sell connectivity, we are the first one to be the technological partner of these customers to sell more things. And the level of digitalization of Brazilian companies is still very low. So on average, we say that's 10% that these customers buy digital service coming from Vivo. So there is a room for us to sell much more. or try to concentrate their purchase with people instead of having it distributed among different players. So we are very positive. We've been showing numbers, double digit growth quarter over quarter. We don't see any different sign to continue to grow, although now we come from a base volume very high compared to what we had in the past. So here B2B will grow in digital services and also we see good perspective in fiber and also other advanced connectivity that we see what we call data corporate data as one of the key core revenues for FIX and the growth that we presented this quarter and this year. um so here is also based in partnerships we have our telephonic attack there's a global company that we have replicated in brazil that we have three one in cyber one in cloud and one in iot big data also other partners there are companies like cisco microsoft among others that also are partners and they see the advantage of combining forces with us once we have the knowledge of the customer, and again, the commercial attractiveness and proximity that is needed to do this type of business. Regarding Oren, I think is a good point. In December 23 last year, we announced the creation of the joint venture for energy. And here the focus is in the commercialization of customized solutions in renewable energy. In the whole country, Oren is a key. player in renewable energy and also in commercialization. And again, they want to leverage on our scale and our relationship with customers and our digital penetration to distribute capacity in the free energy market that we see in some segments of B2B. You know, the market is open last year is going to open more this year and hopefully is going to open even more in the following years reaching the b2c and we want to be positioned to that no so i think when you connect your home or connect your office again the second thing that we may be worried about is the energy that we have because there is saving here and also there is this approach to have sustainable energy at home or in the office so we started with a pilot it was very successful now we're gonna we're gonna continue as the marketing is gonna be opening up year over year and that's gonna be more details in the future with the jv is gonna be independent company but i have its own brand and we are very positive there is a lot of companies that we can reach more than 7 000 large companies including factories offices and commercial establishments that could be approached by us and in the future even more if the market open up and again considering that we believe the b2c will be a target in the future thank you very comment thank you

Our next question comes from Felipe Chang from Santander. Please, Mr. Chang, your microphone is open.

Good morning, Christian, Davi and João. Thank you so much for taking my questions and congrats on the good fourth quarter results. Two on my side, if you could first comment on the churn levels right for the post paid segment. We have been seeing a consistent improvement. So just wondering, what are the main drivers here for this improvement in churn, which is at a historically low level? And what should we expect right for 2024? If there is more room for improvement in this sense. And my second question is related to price increases in mobile. If you could also make a comment on expectations for 2024, if you continue to see room for price increases above inflation and what should the schedule look like if price increases should mostly be concentrated in the first half or second half of the year. Thank you.

So, Felipe, thank you for your question. Yes, you're right. Churn has been going down. If you look at end of 2019, we had 1.65. If you look at the end of 2021, we had 1.3. And now if you look at the end of 23, we have 0.97. uh here i think is a reflection of the right strategy that we have uh to focus on customer rather than the adjusting product although we have like the the best network in 3g 4g 5g we also are trying to combine more servers to the same customers and also improving the experience that they have when they when they deal with vivos so that's a reflection of the people total as i said more 5g plus pay together with fiber. Also the inclusion of value-added services that make it more attractive. And again, giving the best experience to our customer through physical channels, but also for the digital channels. I think that at Vivo, we have more than 23 million customers. They use it on average four or five times. And I think that gives also a very good experience. And also the brand is being recognized as the brand that not only is a great brand in telco, but also is a great brand beyond the sector and being the number one ESG also give this recognition. And I think that may make us even more inspirational as a brand. So going forward, of course, our objective is always to control churn. We want to expand lifetime value. We want to have more customers in a lower acquisition cost. And that means offering more. for the customers going beyond telco it's important that our strategy is going beyond telco offering more services so that also relates to your second question we're going to do price increase based on inflation in the period that we normally do we normally do first semester and part of the customer base we do second semester in august other part of the customer base but apart from just price increase based on inflation we want to have new services that include packaging no so we in controlling the hybrid we have the health one the education one the vivo play one that is going up our price print from like 50 or 52 to 75 78 depending on the plan that we have planted with this connectivity so the strategy is adding more servers to the customer base rather than just increasing price based on inflation perfect very clear thank you so much christian thank you Thank you. Thank you, Filipe.

Thank you. The Q&A session is over. We would like to hand the floor back to Mr. Christian Jobata for the company final remarks. Please, Mr. Jobata, your microphone is open.

Okay, thank you so much for all of you that have followed our call. We are, as we said in the beginning, very happy with the results that we presented for last year in the quarter and in the full year, confident about the perspective this year, and we're going to give more details about our strategy and the trends that we see in our Vivo days. So I wait for all of you to be there and we're going to be a good group of executives of the company presenting our vision. So thank you again. And any doubt that you may have, you know, our team is here always available to answer you.

Thank you. Vivo's conference is now closed. We thank you all for your participation and wish you a wonderful day. You may now disconnect your line.