Vulcan Materials Company

Q1 2024 Earnings Conference Call

5/2/2024

spk14: Good morning and welcome everyone to the Vulcan Materials Company first quarter 2024 earnings call. My name is Jamie and I will be your conference call coordinator today. Please be reminded that today's call is being recorded and will be available for replay later today at the company's website. All lines have been placed in a listen-only mode. After the company's prepared remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Now I will turn the call over to your host, Mark Warren, Vice President of Investor Relations for Vulcan Materials. Mr. Warren, you may begin.
spk04: Thank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. With me today are Tom Hill, Chairman and CEO, and Mary Andrews Carlisle, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's call is accompanied by a press release and a supplemental presentation posted to our website vulcanmaterials.com. Please be reminded that today's discussion may include forward-looking statements which are subject to risks and uncertainties. These risks, along with other legal disclaimers, are described in detail in the company's earnings release and in other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures are defined and reconciled in our earnings release, our supplemental presentation, and other SEC filings. During the Q&A, we ask that you limit your participation to one question. This will allow us to accommodate as many as possible during our time we have available. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Tom.
spk11: Thank you, Mark, and thank all of you for joining Vulcan Materials earnings call this morning. Our first quarter results moved us towards delivering on a fourth consecutive year of double-digit adjusted EBITDA growth. Although the weather was unusually cold and wet across many geographies for much of the quarter, our teams executed well and improved our average cash gross profit per ton by 10%. Their commitment to our Vulcan Way of selling and Vulcan Way of operating disciplines is driving solid results. In the quarter, we generated $323 million of adjusted EBITDA and expanded our adjusted EBITDA margin. Importantly, several key trends continued. Pricing momentum, cost deceleration, unit profitability expansion, robust cash generation, disciplined capital allocation, and return on invested capital improvement. In the aggregate segment, -over-year shipments declined by 7%, but the durability of our aggregate business and the consistency of our executions stood out in a weather-impact quarter. We again improved our trailing 12 months aggregate cash gross profit per ton, pushing it to $9.66 per ton and making further progress toward our current $11 to $12 target. The pricing environment remains positive and -over-year aggregate cash cost of sales continues to moderate. Aggregates freight and adjusted price improved 10% in the quarter and increased $1.25 per ton sequentially from the fourth quarter. A clear illustration of the success of January increases and the continuous execution of our Vulcan Way of selling disciplines. Our first quarter cash cost of sales performance resulted in a fourth consecutive quarter of trailing 12 months cost deceleration and improving sequentially by another 230 basis points. Our relentless focus on improving efficiencies in our plants through our Vulcan Way of operating disciplines remains a key driver of managing costs, expanding unit profitability, and ultimately generating attractive free cash flow. There is a healthy pipeline of opportunities to deploy this free cash flow for both attractive acquisitions and complementary strategic greenfield development. These targeted opportunities are at varying stages, but as an example, earlier this week we closed on a bolt-on agris and asphalt acquisition in Alabama, a top 10 state. I'm proud of how our teams continue to execute our two-pronged growth strategy. They are focused on expanding our reach in addition to enhancing our core with consistent expansion of unit profitability by controlling what we can control, even in a dynamic macro environment and demand environment. On the demand side, I want to provide a few comments about each end use, starting with private demand and then moving to public. Momentum in single family continues to accelerate across our footprint and points to growth in 2024. However, we continue to expect weaker multifamily residential construction to largely offset the single family approval this year. Overall, affordability and elevated interest rates remain the challenge, but the underlying fundamentals of population growth and low inventories in Vulcan markets support the recovery of our business. The impact of the pandemic on our economy is also a positive sign for future activity in certain categories of non-residential construction. Recent data shows signs of stabilization in overall stars. However, the landscape continues to vary across categories. As expected, continued moderation in warehouse stars will be the biggest headwind to private non-residential demand this year. Currently, light commercial activity remains weak, but over time we expect it to follow the positive trends in single family housing. We continue to see and capitalize on opportunities in the manufacturing category. Our unmatched Southeastern footprint and unique logistics capabilities positions as well to service these large, aggregate intensive projects. Our footprint is also an advantage on the public side, with over two-thirds of federal highway spending allocated to Vulcan states. Additionally, other public infrastructure activity which benefits from IIJ funding is growing faster in Vulcan states than the country as a whole. A sustained, elevated-level highway starts of over $100 billion, coupled with record 2024 state budgets, supports healthy growth in highway and infrastructure demand both in 2024 and for the next several years. Now I'll turn the call over to Mary Andrews for some additional commentary on our first quarter.
spk12: Thanks, Tom, and good morning. Tom discussed our solid aggregate results in the quarter and shared some important ongoing trends. In addition to providing a few more details about our first quarter results, I'd like to first expound upon four of the trends Tom highlighted early in his remarks. For the last four quarters, we have consistently expanded our trailing 12-month unit profitability in all three of our operating segments, increasing cash unit profitability by nearly $1.50 per ton in aggregate, almost $6 per ton in asphalt, and nearly $5 per cubic yard in concrete. Our trailing 12-month growth margin has also steadily improved in each product line. This organic growth is underpinned by our daily focus on execution and driving results through our Vulcan way of selling and Vulcan way of operating disciplines. Better unit profitability yields better free cash flow. Our free cash flow conversion over the last five years has averaged over 90%, enabling us to strategically allocate capital to reinvest in our franchise, grow our business, and return cash to shareholders. During the quarter, we invested $103 million in capital expenditures and returned $81 million to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases. We continue to expect to spend between $625 and $675 million on capital expenditures for the full year. Our current balance sheet positions us well to continue to deploy capital to each of our priorities. At the end of the first quarter, our net debt to adjusted EBITDA leverage was 1.5 times, with $300 million of cash on hand following the March 1st redemption of our 2026 senior notes at par for $550 million. Our liquidity position and financial flexibility are competitive strengths as we look to continue to grow and create value for our shareholders. Over the last 12 months, we've achieved a 260 basis points improvement in return on invested capital. Invested capital has increased less than 1%, while adjusted EBITDA has improved 20%. Adjusted EBITDA margin has also improved by 350 basis points through consistent operational execution and disciplined SAG cost management. SAG expenses in the quarter were in line with our expectations, and we continue to expect to spend between $550 and $560 million for the full year. Most importantly, we reaffirm our expectations of delivering adjusted EBITDA between $2.15 billion and $2.3 billion for the full year. At the midpoint, a double-digit -over-year improvement for a fourth consecutive year. I'll now turn the call back over to Tom to provide a few closing remarks.
spk11: Thank you, Mary Andrews. At Vulcan, our number one priority will always be our people, keeping them safe and fostering our Vulcan culture. They are the foundation of our great company. As a team, we are focused on the daily execution of our Vulcan way of selling and Vulcan way of operating disciplines to ensure attractive cash generation in any macro backdrop. We will be strategic and disciplined in allocating capital to continue to grow our business and deliver value for our shareholders. And now, Mary Andrews and I will be happy to take your questions.
spk14: Thank you. At this time, if you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad. You may remove yourself from the queue at any time by pressing star 2. Once again, that is star 1 to ask a question and star 2 to remove yourself. We'll take our first question from Stanley Elliott with Stiefel.
spk02: Good morning, Tom. Good morning, Mary Andrews. Thank you for the question. Tom, I start the year very clean quarter despite kind of sort of the weather issues I think a lot of people had and some of the comp issues. Can you talk about how the rest of the year plays out, thinking about this more like maybe from a demand standpoint and then, you know, to any extent commentary you could share on April would be great.
spk11: Sure. You know, looking at the quarter itself, I'd call the quarter volumes in the quarter as expected with a margin of error. We had less shipping days in March, but about the same amount of shipping days in the quarter overall. January was a slow start really due to wet weather and cold weather. February and March I call a bit better, better on a daily shipping basis. So Q1L, things considered as expected. As we look forward to the rest of the year, I don't see any real change in our thinking on demand. We'd still guide to the flat to down four and the dynamics are very similar to what we said last quarter, headwinds and non-residential, some challenges in multifamily. We've got recovering single-family construction and growing public demand. I think that our position, our superior position in the Southeast really helps the footprint makes a difference and that Southeastern market is probably the healthiest market in the country. I think our vocal way of selling disciplines and tools are very helpful with this. So at this point, I call it confident from a volume outlook. You know, as far as going into the second quarter, I call it this way. When the sun comes out, we're shipping very well.
spk02: Great, guys. Nice to hear. Thanks so much and best of luck. Thank you.
spk14: Thanks, team. We'll go next to Jonathan Bentonhaus on Wichita Securities.
spk16: Hey, guys. Thanks for sharing my question. I'm on for Q2 this morning. I'm curious about your outlook on mid-year pricing. We had conversations with your customers about mid-years and I'm also wondering how much of that is baking to your guide.
spk11: Yeah, I'd start off with saying that I think the fundamentals in pricing remain very good and very healthy. As you saw, we had a solid start in Q1 with prices a little north of 10 percent. That was really across every market. And so it's a really good start and supports our full year guidance. Mid-year price increases are not in our guidance at this point. We're having those mid-year price discussions right now, so it's a little too early to call. Remember that mid-years will be good for 2024, but they're going to be even better for 2025. So our teams are working really hard on this and I think I'm sure they'll deliver. The most important thing, though, I think is that the fundamentals for pricing remain very healthy. And so I think when it comes to mid-years, we'll revisit pricing guidance in August and give you an update.
spk12: And one more thought on price. You know, we always like to point out how important it is to remember that regardless of what the level of pricing is, the key is really how much price we're able to take to the bottom line. In the first quarter, we achieved 10 percent improvement in cash gross profit per ton and some aggregate margin expansion even given the lower volume quarter due to the weather. Overall, gross margin also improved by 140 basis points and adjusted EBITDA margin expanded as well. So importantly, we expect this margin expansion to continue and to improve further through the balance of the year.
spk16: Perfect. Thanks for the call. Thank you.
spk14: We'll go now to Anthony Padanari with Citi.
spk08: Good morning. Good morning. I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit more about how costs have kind of been trending among your major cost categories, you know, if you can touch on maybe some of the non-energy categories and then also just with higher diesel, you know, how that's impacted, you know, conversations around price increases or just how you think about the full year from that context.
spk11: Yeah, I think the first quarter for cost is always tricky as volumes and weather definitely had an impact on costs in the first quarter. That said, I think we're still comfortable with the cost guidance of up mid-single digit for the full year. As always, we would get you to look at costs on a 12-month basis because it's going to be choppy on quarter to quarter. And if you look back on a 12-month basis over the last year, cost increases have fallen from I'd say mid-teens to single digit. So as we said in the prepared remarks, we've seen four quarters of decelerating costs. And as we march through this year, we should see those increases decline as we march through the year, next quarter better, next quarter better, next quarter better as we saw over the last four quarters. So I think we're on a good path to that mid-single digit cost for the full year. As far as different pieces of this, diesel was probably a slight tailwind in the quarter. What stays up is parts and services remain elevated, but our comps are getting easier. And I think that we also through the bulk of operating, we're improving our operating efficiencies and will continue over the next two years with that to offset those inflated parts and services. So I think we're in a good place. I think the teams are working through this and I'm pleased with what I see.
spk12: Yeah. And in terms of diesel, Anthony, we do assume in our plan that it'll move somewhat higher through the rest of the year. And you're right. While diesel prices for us, they're always hard to predict, but they can really be a good thing in this business since we have the ability to catch it with pricing as it goes up and also take advantage of it when it goes down.
spk08: Got it. Got it. That's very helpful. I'll turn it over.
spk14: Thank you. We'll go now to Katherine Thompson with Thompson Research Group.
spk11: Good morning, Katherine.
spk14: Morning.
spk01: Good morning. Thank you for taking my question today. Stepping back, just looking at the bigger picture, last year you divested mainly downstream ops just in terms of optimizing portfolios. As you look into 2024 and beyond, what are your priorities in terms of overall Vulcan materials and product mix? And how does this mix strategy, how do you think about that against the backdrop of a broad reindustrialization of the U.S. and putting Vulcan in the best position possible? Thank you.
spk11: Well, as always, we would tell you that it's aggregate and we are an aggregate company. We have the highest percentage of evident aggregates of probably anybody in the sector. And that's what we do. Now, we have strategic downstream. And, you know, as we always say, it's a portfolio. We look at it as a portfolio. And if one of those sectors or geographies doesn't earn appropriate return or is worth more to somebody else, we'll divest of it and plow that money back into our aggregates business. So, you know, I think that nothing's changed as far as how we look at the world. And, you know, as we look at the growth part of M&A and green fields, it will be aggregates focused.
spk01: Okay. Thank you so much.
spk11: Thank you.
spk14: We'll turn now to Trey Grooms with Stevens.
spk09: Hi, Trey.
spk14: Good morning.
spk09: Hey, good morning. I kind of want to follow up on the comment, Mary Andrews, you had earlier about cash gross profit per ton. Clearly, it was up 10% in the quarter. I think you were maybe initially looking for mid to high single digit improvement, so maybe a little better there. And then full year is mid, I think, looking for mid teens type of improvement. So I guess the first one is kind of, you know, how we see that progress. I think it's going to accelerate somewhat as we go through the year. But anyway, to help us kind of think about that, you know, as we progress through the year to get to that mid teens for the full year, and then maybe stepping back a little bit longer term, you know, these are clearly better numbers of better performance than the historical kind of average of profitability improvement. How are you thinking about that longer term? Do you think it has the opportunity to kind of see a, you know, long term better kind of consistent improvement versus kind of historical?
spk11: Yeah, let me take your last question first about long term. This is why we have developed the Volcan wave of selling and the Volcan wave of operating disciplines. I think they secure our ability to improve cash gross profit per ton, which we've done, you know, a trillion month basis every quarter, except for one flat for five years. That's pretty good consistency, even with some of the dynamics that are out there. So I think that overall in history, we're in a better versus history, we're in a better place for higher improvements in cash gross profit per ton. And that's not by accident. That's by design. And we've been working on that now for years and it is working and those tools are only getting better or we're getting better implementing them. I think as far as this year's concern, as we talked about, as we progress through the year, you've got costs increases decelerating and as inflation, comps get easier and our operating efficiency gets better. So that's one piece of that. And then I think as we march through the year, we have the ability to continue to raise prices both in what we do on project work, but also fixed plant. So you put all that together, I think as we progress through the year, we have the opportunity to continue to watch our unit margins improvement through the year. Okay,
spk09: got it. All right. Thank you very much. I'll pass it on. Sure.
spk14: We'll go next to Jerry Rivich with Goldman Sachs.
spk11: Hi Jerry.
spk10: Hey, hi Tom, Mary Andrews. Mark, good morning everyone. I'm wondering if you could just talk about how you expect the pricing cadence to play out this year over the past couple of years, you know, third quarter versus second quarter, we saw a big, you know, 60 cent type step up in pricing. Is that feels like that's what you're assuming this year to get to the guidance, but maybe Mary Andrews, you could expand on how you expect the cadence to play out and how much higher could that be if we do implement mid-year price increases. Thank you.
spk12: Yeah, sure. I would expect a cadence of Jerry likely some sequential growth in the second quarter, more in the third quarter as you referenced. And then, you know, we would typically see less in the fourth quarter, you know, do mostly to seasonality. And, you know, the magnitude of the mid-years, which, you know, Tom referenced earlier, it's just too early to call at this point. But that's, you know, what would influence, you know, that third quarter sequential improvement into what level that gets and where we fall out overall.
spk10: Okay. And then in terms of just the exit rate with double digit pricing growth exiting the year and potential mid-years on top of it, I guess that suggests the starting point for 25 should be in the high single digit pricing range just from a carryover effect. And I just want to make sure that that's consistent with how you folks are thinking about it.
spk11: Yeah, I think when it comes to mid-years, we're going to call that when we earn it. And I think we feel good about mid-years. And I think those conversations are going fine. As far, you know, as I said, they mean a lot for 25. I do think it's a bit early to call what 25 is going to start out at. We've got to get mid-years under our belt and take a look at what we're going to do as the first part of 25. But I do think it's a – I do think that – I feel good about the mid-years. And I think it is a good omen for 2025 pricing.
spk17: Okay. Thank
spk14: you.
spk11: Sure.
spk14: Next, we'll hear from Mike Dahl with RBC Capital Markets.
spk05: Hi, Mike. Hi, Tom. Very interesting. Thanks for taking the question. I'm going to follow up again on kind of mid-years. I think last quarter, you talked about how those conversations would be pro-conversation. So maybe it's just semantics and you want to have those really finalized before you communicate. I'm wondering if just, you know, given some of the wet weather to start the year, if some of those conversations perhaps got pushed out a little bit, felt with your expectations or how you characterize that and any other regional differences in pricing that you may be experiencing relative to what you thought coming into the year.
spk11: You know, I don't think weather had anything to do with it. I think you may have read a little bit too much into the April month comment. You send the letters out in April. You spend May having those conversations and you finalize them end of May, kind of beginning of June. So I don't see anything different in timing or sequencing versus, you know, what we did last year. Like I said, I think I'm encouraged by the conversations that we're having. And I think that we will implement a solid mid-year price increases. But I wouldn't read anything into the comment on April versus how this goes. It's really kind of a process. We introduce it in April, have the conversations in May and again finalize it in June.
spk12: And one other thought on pricing for the rest of the year is that, you know, we've had positive momentum over the last 12 months in our bid work. And that should also be, you know, a good catalyst for us from where we ended Q1 to where we expect to be for the full year in addition to whatever's realized on mid-year increases.
spk05: Great. Thanks for that.
spk14: We'll go now to Garrick Schmos with Loop Capital.
spk06: Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I wanted to ask on the M&A environment, if you could provide a little bit more color on the bulletin that you just completed. And is it possible on all the biggest size how much you anticipate spending on acquisitions this year and the types of deals you're looking at?
spk11: Yeah. As you saw, we had a small but strategic bolt on kind of northeast of Birmingham up toward Gunnersville. It's about two million tons of aggregate and just under half a million tons of asphalt. It fits us well. I think as you look at the full year, the next 12 months, M&A outlook is quite good. So more to come. And I'm, you know, having a lot of those conversations and very encouraged by it. I think it's always M&A will be aggregate-led and conducted with discipline. But we feel very confident this will be a busy M&A year for us.
spk07: Okay.
spk11: Very good. Thank you. Thank you.
spk14: Well, now we'll go to David McGregor with Longbow Research.
spk07: Good morning, everyone. Thanks for taking the questions. Mom, I guess I wanted to kind of tap your many years of experience in this business with respect to the second half this year in election years. And in an election year, do you find that projects kind of accelerate as people kind of focus on, you know, pork? Or do you think things maybe slow down a little bit as people get a little more tentative and wait to see how the election plays out? I'm just trying to get a sense of how you're thinking about the risk around second half volumes in public sector spending. I
spk11: don't see, I'm going to take it in pieces. Overall, I don't see any impact with election year on our demand. I think that our guidance has taken the factors into account. I don't think election year moves the needle on that. I think on the public side, it is really the DOTs trying to get highway dollars into lettings and into projects. And I think that's happening. I think we call that, as you know, mid-single digit. On the private side, I think, as we said, you've got some challenges on non-res and multi. And I think that single family is recovering with health. So that's how I look at it with not much impact from election year. Thanks very much. Thank you.
spk14: And next we have Tim Natanaris with Wolf Research. Good morning, Tim.
spk13: Good morning. Hey, good morning. Thanks a lot. I wanted to ask about a little bit more on the demand side as well. How is the government infrastructure dollars, how are they flowing through? How are you seeing the pace of that activity? Any evidence of some of those larger IRA projects and any sign that data centers could make much of a dent against the decline in warehouse demand? Thanks.
spk11: Yeah, I will start with highways. We're seeing the IJ money and the local funds flow into lettings. At this point, we'd stick with that mid-single digit growth on the public side this year, which is both non-highway infrastructure and highways. And we see that kind of steady growth for years to come. We're also seeing additional state funding come into play. We've got three states with some big dollars. Tennessee added $3 billion. Florida, I think, added $4 billion. And Georgia just added $1.5 billion to their funding. I think when it comes to public demand, slow and steady wins the race on this, and particularly when you're compounding your margins like we are. So I think a good, healthy sector with steady growth for years to come. And I think the DOTs will continue to work hard to get those dollars into lettings.
spk12: And, Tim, you also mentioned data centers, which have really provided some good opportunities for us in some markets. I can think of some projects we've looked recently in Virginia, Alabama, Georgia. And it's obviously a subject that's getting a lot of press. But I do think it's important to remember that the square footage, according to Dodge for data centers, is only a low single digit percentage of total non-res start. So, you know, as you know, there are a lot of different categories and dynamics and private non-res. So data centers may not move the needle overall. But overall for us and non-res, right now, you know, so far it's playing out as we expected with kind of all those different dynamics.
spk14: Okay.
spk12: Helpful. I'll leave it there.
spk14: Thanks again. We'll go now to Tyler Brown with Raymond James.
spk03: Hey, Tyler. Hey. So you all are doing a great job on unit margins. But I am curious what you're seeing on the plant productivity side. Because if I go back, Tom, to the Vulcan way of operating some of the technology rollout from the plants that you talked about at the analyst day, I'm just kind of curious how those are tracking if you're seeing improved plant utilization. And is that kind of a continued good guy into 25?
spk11: Yeah, I think that where we are on that, and you're talking about the process intelligence on those plants, as we said, we did that in our top 100 plants, which is about 7% of our, roughly 7% of our production. The tools are all there. About 25%, 30% of those plants are actually fully utilizing those tools. And there's a lot of work that has to go into that to get the screens right and everybody trained. And those we're seeing marked progress. As we march through kind of this year, maybe the first part of next year, we'll get up to 100% of those. And as we do, we'll see improvement. So where it's working, I think it's working well, maybe a little slower than I would have wanted it to go through as far as full implementation. But we're getting there, and I think we'll see that. And as you said, we'll see progress of that show up in our numbers in 24 and in 25 and into 26, to be honest with you. So, you know, so far so good, and we'll keep plugging at it. Thank you. Thank you.
spk14: And now we'll hear from Adam Dallimer with Thomas Davis.
spk18: Hey, Adam.
spk14: Morning.
spk18: Morning, guys. Great quarter.
spk14: Thank you.
spk18: Hey, on the demand side, I guess I wanted to hit that as well. There's a lot of angst out there about just private construction demand in general. Are you guys seeing any incremental weakness or strengths there?
spk11: Well, I think it kind of depends on which part of it you're talking about, and I'll take them a piece at a time. We're seeing, you know, on the non-res side, you've got weakness in, you know, warehouses and kind of traditional white non-res. That being said, the warehouses, as you look at starts, they are, the fall is decelerating. It's getting better as you look at starts on a short-term basis. So hopefully that will get better. You've got strength in large manufacturing projects, which, you know, we've got 11 of those big projects, and we're shipping on them now, and I think more to come. So, you know, it's too early to call whether it's getting better or getting worse, but that's kind of how we call it on the non-res side. On the highways, excuse me, on housing, I would tell you the weakness is in multifamily and continues that. I think that doesn't last too long. We'll be past that, I think, in 25. And then, you know, single-family, res is recovering, and I think we're covering with some momentum.
spk18: Sounds pretty good. Thanks,
spk11: Tom. Thank you.
spk14: We'll go now to Phil Ene with Jefferies.
spk15: Hey, Phil. Hey, guys. Congrats on a really strong quarter. I had a question. I mean, a competitor of yours just closed on a deal in the Southeast, and they've already announced price increases for mid-years in those markets and called out how pricing there is perhaps below their corporate average. I've always thought of the Southeast as actually a pretty good pricing market. Do you see that dynamic, you know, improving the -to-repar pricing, anything on the structure side of things? And then, similarly, California, I think pricing still kind of below what that market probably should warrant, just given the -of-demand profile. Any thoughts on the momentum on pricing around California as well?
spk11: Yeah, I think we've got to be thoughtful when we call out pricing on individual markets. But that being said, the Southeast is very good pricing, some of the best we have. And I think that if you look at the Western part of the United States, I think we're seeing marked improvement in pricing, and that momentum will continue. Okay. Appreciate the call.
spk14: And now we'll go to Angelo Castillo with Morgan Stanley.
spk17: Good morning. Hi, thanks. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just wanted to maybe expand a little bit on some of the dynamics. First, just a quick clarifier. For pricing, is the assumption still 10 to 12 percent, given the kind of unchanged top line? And then you mentioned, you know, kind of no impact from election year. Could you maybe talk about some of the other dynamics that are at play here in terms of, you know, the weakness you're seeing in non-REZE and the just interest rate environment and kind of, you know, some of those challenges? Is that having any kind of impact on your mid-years? It sounds like the discussions there have been quite constructive, so just any kind of color there would be helpful.
spk11: Yeah, I think, you know, you're seeing improvement. We're seeing improvement in single family, which is always helpful. And the most important thing is that you see growth in public demand, which is still visible, and it is a very good foundation for pricing. I don't know that interest rates have had a big impact on pricing. Obviously, they'll have, they've had impacts on demand and volumes. But I think, so I think that, and I don't think that the election year has had any impact on pricing dynamics. So I think that the fact that we've got strong, very visible public demand for a long time is good. I think you've got some improvement in REZE. All that is helping the pricing dynamics. And I think we feel pretty good about our mid-year at this point.
spk17: Very
spk11: helpful.
spk17: Thank you. Thank
spk11: you.
spk14: We'll go now to Michael Dudas with Vertical Research.
spk19: Good morning. Good morning, Mary Andrews, Mark Tom.
spk07: Good morning.
spk19: So, you know, that's an interesting highlight on 67 percent of your, of the IIJA dollars are going to the Vulcan states. So you can talk a little bit about what states, is that matching up with some of the DOT budgets in some of your important states? And what it may be throughout the business, what regions or states maybe are lagging a bit that may have some opportunity to catch up as we move into the next several quarters?
spk11: Well, I think, you know, a big part of that is you've got the big DOTs, Caltrans and TexDOT and Georgia DOT and Virginia. Obviously in Tennessee, obviously have excellent funding, both state and local. I think that, you know, probably the most, the best, the DOT is best at getting money through at this point because they started earlier with their own funding in Texas. You know, Georgia has some struggles, but I think it's catching up with that. So and I think Caltrans is doing a good job getting their money in. Illinois has struggled getting some of their funding out. So that's how I call it. But I think they're all plugging at it and I think they're all getting better at it. It is coming through with improvement and lettings. I think that all of them are going through their 25 budgeting right now, a little too early to call. But I don't see any of them going down. I would expect most of them to go up. So as we said, I think that it's a long road. I think it's steady growth in public. And it's not just highways. It's also the infrastructure, which is ports and airports and water and sewage. And that will be substantial growth, I think, this year and for years to come. Thank you, Tom. Thank you.
spk14: And at this time, that will conclude our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Tom Hill, Chief Executive Officer, for any additional or closing comments.
spk11: I thank all of you for your time this morning and your interest and support of All-Composite Materials Company. We hope you and your families are healthy and safe and stay that way through the quarter. And we look forward to talking to you over the next few months.
spk14: Once again, ladies and gentlemen, that will conclude today's call. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect at this time.
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