Vishay Intertechnology, Inc.

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Vichay Intertechnology quarter two 2025 earnings call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. After the speaker's presentation, there will be a question and answer session. To ask a question during your session, you will need to press star one one on your telephone. You will then hear an automated message advising that your hand is raised. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to the first speaker today, Peter Henrinci, Investor Relations. Peter, go ahead.

Thank you, Amber. Good morning and welcome to Vichay Intertechnology second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. I'm joined today by Joel Smekow, our president and chief executive officer and by Dave McConnell, our chief financial officer. This morning, we reported results for our second quarter. A copy of our earnings treaty is available in the Investor Relations section of our website at .Vichay.com. This call is being broadcast live over the web and can be accessed through our website. In addition, today's call is being recorded and will be available by replay on our website. During the call, we will be referring to a slide presentation, which we also posted at .Vichay.com. You should be aware that in today's conference call, we will be making certain forward-looking statements that discuss future events and performance. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ from the forward-looking statements. For discussion of factors that could cause results to differ, please see today's press release and Vichay's form 10K and form 10Q filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We are including information in our press release and on the conference call on various gap and non-gap measures. We have included a full gap to non-gap reconciliation in our press release, as well as in the presentation posted on .Vichay.com, which we believe you will find useful when comparing our gap and non-gap results. We use non-gap measures because we believe they provide useful information about the operating performance of our businesses and should be considered by investors in conjunction with gap measures. Now, I turn the call over to President and Chief Executive Officer, Joel Smacov.

Thank you, Peter. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our second quarter 2025 conference call. I'll start my remarks with a review of the second quarter performance and business condition, and then turn the call over to Dave, who will take you through a review of the second quarter financial results and our guidance for the third quarter of 2025. After that, I'll update you on the strategic levers we are pulling under Vichay 3.0 as we continue to execute our five-year strategic plan, and then we'll be happy to answer any of your questions. For the second quarter, revenue grew sequentially 7% to $762 million in line with our guidance. We generated revenue growth for both semis and passives, growth in all of our end markets, growth in the distribution and EMS channels, and growth in all regions. The promising signals we saw emerging in the fourth quarter have become more firm. The inventory correction cycle is principally behind us. Industry inventory levels have normalized for passives, while there is still some excess industry inventory in semis. Solid order intake during the second quarter reflected continued demand momentum in smart grid infrastructure projects and AI power application. Overall, -to-bill was positive at 1.02, with semis slipping slightly due to some customer program adjustments and passives continuing to trend upward. July -to-bill for semis has bounced back to 1.07. Our decision to invest heavily in capacity expansion between 2023 and 2028 under Vichay 3.0 is positioning us well. Over the past two and a half years, we have invested approximately $775 million to add capacity for high growth, higher profit products. I am pleased to state that today, we have the incremental capacity for nearly all products to capture the early stage of this market upturn, assuring our customers of reliable volume as they scale, and to satisfy the quick turn demand we're seeing in AI, and generally across all end markets. We have also been aggressively working growth initiatives to strengthen customer relationships, re-engage with previously underserved and inactive customers, and develop new customers. Through innovation and subcontractor engagements, our portfolio has expanded to best serve our customers' demand and to more fully leverage the breadth of technologies in our portfolio. We create design opportunities that increase our print position of customers, targeting our 80% of the bill of materials in power application. We also work to advance our silicon carbide strategy. As a result, we have positioned Vichay quite well to support the emerging market upcycle, as well as to reinforce our presence to participate in the mega trends of e-mobility and sustainability over time. Let's now turn to slide three for review by end markets. Automotive revenue increased 4% versus the quarter as demand from tier one customers improved on a modest increase in consignment polls in the Americas and the launch of new ADAS programs in Europe and higher volumes in Asia. Consignment polls from European customers were mixed, with some of them pulling at normal rates, some at higher rates, and some adjusting their forecast. Order and take grew in all regions over the course of the quarter. Automotive electrification continues to be a major focus of design activity in the second quarter for battery electric vehicles and hybrid powertrains. Along with smart cockpits, ADAS programs, traction inverters, and onboard chargers. ICE powertrain designs, those activities do still continue. Revenue from the industrial segment increased 9% from the first quarter. The normalization of customer and channel inventories helped this segment turn to more of a forward-looking demand planning approach. Also, industrial is being driven by strengthening demand for smart grid infrastructure, multi-year projects in all regions. Higher power requirements to support AI chip production and data center projects as AI adoption continues to fuel electricity requirements. For example, we received multiple large orders for the high voltage DC power transmission programs during this quarter. We expect to win additional smart grid projects as customers address electricity demands in AI data centers. Excuse me. In the Americas, orders steadily increased over the quarter with lead times in the eight to 12 week range, giving us a higher percentage of turns business we haven't seen for many quarters. In Europe, order intake for smart grid infrastructure projects more than doubled. In Asia, governments in China and India are also accelerating smart grid infrastructure spending. In parallel, demand for factory automation projects and other industrial applications remains flat in the Americas and Europe as companies are slow to invest in capital projects. New design activity remained focused on energy storage, energy conversion, high voltage DC smart grid infrastructure, uninterruptible power supplies, and next generation AI power structures. In aerospace defense, revenue increased 5% quarter over quarter on improved demand for military applications where while commercial aerospace declined due to ongoing mechanical parts supply issues in the US, the US and Europe. Book to bill stayed above one in the Americas with orders improving throughout the quarter, including orders for applications related to low earth orbit satellites. At one customer, we are supplying over 30% of the bill of materials. Distributors in Europe also report a book to bill rates above one for aerospace defense. Design activity remained focused on Department of Defense communication programs and low earth orbit satellite constellations, next generation warfare programs, including drones and missiles. In the medical end markets, revenue grew 4% reflecting stronger demanded implantables and measurement equipment. In the Americas, we are seeing the increase and success of our strategy to cross sell all the shade technologies to customers who have purchased only one or two products from us in the past years. Design activity remained focused on a variety of applications, including defibrillators, surgical assistant systems, drug delivery, diagnostic equipment for patient monitoring and hearing aid implants. Revenue from the other segments, including computer, consumer and telecom end markets was up 9% for the sixth consecutive quarter of sequential growth on escalating demand related to AI servers and server power in Asia. Consistent with the past two quarters, AI remained a quick turns business with Asia CMs frequently placing spot orders. Order intake increased anywhere between 20 to 30%, depending on the country. The main areas of design activity for computing and AI applications continue to be around power management. We continue to design in a greater percentage of components on the board, expanding our bill of material position to both semis and passives, which fits our profitability and capability to support over 80% of the components needed in a power application. In addition, we expanded the AI customer base and continued design activity with AI optical modules and graphics cards. Let's move on to slide four. Moving on to the revenue by channel from the second quarter, you can see that distribution revenue grew again quarter over quarter and was the strongest contributor to total revenue growth for the quarter. OEM revenue was essentially flat compared to the first quarter with volume up in all regions, including a recovery in Asia following a seasonal soft first quarter offset by a bit lower ASPs. Order intake by industrial OEMs in each region remain positive as we move past the inventory correction cycle and see increased demand for industrial power supplies and improve order intake from automotive customers. EMS revenue increased 13% versus the first quarter on increased AI and industrial demand and many short-term orders in Asia related to customers who wanted to ship during the tariff pause. In Europe, some regional EMS work to right size their inventory levels, which they hold for aerospace and defense customers. This is expected to clear by year end. Distribution revenue grew 11%. This reflects the success of our SKU count expansion to sell more Bechet products by having them on the shelf, which intensifies customer engagement. Our total distributor inventory reached 27 weeks at the end of Q4 and has been reduced now to 23 weeks for the second quarter as more Bechet part numbers are being consumed at faster rates. POS increased in each region and worldwide 9%. In the Americas, POS was at the highest level since the second quarter of 2023 as end customer demand recovers due to new program launches, expanded backlogs and normalized inventory levels. POA worldwide grew at a faster rate on continued turns business in each region following a 4% sequential increase in the first quarter. Turning to slide five, in terms of the geographical mix, revenue grew in each region led by Asia, which increased 12% on a rebound from the seasonally soft first quarter on strong volume associated with AI power requirements, smart grid infrastructure projects and also automotive. In the Americas, improved automotive and industrial man resulted in a 7% increase. Europe was essentially flat after having fewer workdays in Q2 and some inventory overcorrections. Before turning the call over to Dave, I'd like to thank the Bechet employees for their hard work and contributions to transforming Bechet to 3.0. Our level of service has improved. Bechet employees put the customer first every day and embrace a business-minded approach in all that they do. Their continued commitment to advancing the business towards the long-term strategy and financial goals is recognized and appreciated. I'll now turn the call over to Dave where he will review the financial results of Q2. Thank you, Joe.

Good morning, everyone. Let's start our review of the second quarter financial results with the highlights on slide six. Second quarter revenues were 762 million, up 7% compared to the first quarter, reflecting a 4% increase in volume and a 3% positive foreign currency impact related mostly to the euro. Average selling prices, including tariff adders, were flat versus the first quarter. All reportable business segments had higher revenues in the first quarter, driven mostly by volume. Compared to the second quarter, 2024, revenues increased 3%, reflecting a 3% increase in volume, 2% positive foreign currency impact related mostly to the euro. This was partially offset with a 2% reduction in ASPs, including tariff adders. -to-bill for the quarter was 1.02. The third quarter in a row was a -to-bill over one. -to-bill was 0.98 for semis and 1.06 for passes. Backlog in dollars increased to 1.2 billion and is now at 4.6 months. Moving on to the next slide, presenting the income statement highlights. Gross profit was 149 million, resulting in a gross margin of .5% at the high end of our guidance. The increase from quarter one was primarily due to additional volume. The negative impact from Newport was approximately 160 basis points, slightly better than our guidance. Appreciation expenses was 53 million, approximately in line with our guidance, considering exchange rate impacts, and up 2 million over quarter one. SG&A expenses were 127 million, including an $11 million benefit recognized upon the one-time favorable resolution of an outstanding matter. Excluding this one-time benefit, SG&A expenses would have been in the range of our guidance for the quarter, up from 135 million in quarter one, mostly due to negative exchange rate impacts. Gap operating margin was .9% compared to .1% in the first quarter and .1% in the second quarter of 24. Adjusted operating margin was .4% in the second quarter, excluding the one-time item. There were no gap adjustments in Q1-25 or Q2-24. EBITDA for the quarter was 75 million for an EBITDA margin of 9.8%. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was 64 million for an adjusted EBITDA margin of 8.3%, up from .6% in the first quarter. Our GAP effective tax rate is not meaningful at these low levels of pre-tax income or loss, as relatively small items such as farm currency and repatriation taxes have a disproportionate impact on the effective tax rate. As profitability returns, we expect a normalized effective tax rate closer to our historical guidance. GAP EPS was 1 cent per second, per share compared to a loss of 3 cents per share in the first quarter and earnings per share of 17 cents in the second quarter of 24. Adjusted loss per share was 7 cents for the second quarter of 25. Proceeding to slide eight, for ease of reference, the presentation includes a table illustrating the revenue, gross margin and -to-bill ratios for each of our reportable business segments. Of note for the second quarter, the results for Newport continue to be reported primarily in MOSFETs, impacting that segment's gross margin by approximately 840 bips compared to 1,000 bips per quarter one. Turning to slide nine, in our cash conversion cycle metrics, our DSO was stable at 53 days, while our DPO decreased to 32 days from 34 days in the first quarter. Inventory increased to 755 million, mostly due to exchange rate impacts. The inventory days outstanding decreased slightly to 109 days. Total cash conversion cycle for the second quarter is 130 days. Continuing to slide 10, you can see we used $9 million of operating cash for the second quarter. The quarter included 56 million of tax payments related to cash repatriation and the last installment of the US transition tax. Total CapEx for the quarter was 65 million, including 53 million designated for capacity expansion projects. On a trailing 12-month basis, capital intensity was .3% compared to .5% for the same period last year. Consistent with our strategic plan that we shared with you last year, we continued to deploy cash for capacity expansion projects. Due to these investments and the aforementioned taxes paid, free cash flow for the quarter was a negative 73 million compared to negative 45 million in the first quarter. Stockholder returns for the second quarter consisted of our $13.6 million quarterly dividend. We did not repurchase any shares in the quarter. The remaining 42 million of our 2025 convertible notes matured in the quarter. We funded the settlement with a cash draw on our revolver. At the end of the quarter, our global cash and short-term investment balance was 479 million and we're in a net borrowing position in the US with 185 million currently outstanding on our revolver. As previously noted, we are required to fund current dividends, share repurchases, principal and interest payments using cash on hand in the US and we are using our US-based liquidity to fund our Newport expansion and other strategic investments. To that end, during the quarter, we repatriated 66 million of accumulated earnings, net of taxes from Israel to the US, primarily to fund the Newport expansion. We have 275 million accessible on our revolving credit facilities at the current EBITDA level. We expect to continue to draw on our revolver to fund our US cash needs. Okay, moving on to the guidance. For the third quarter 2025, revenues are expected to be 775 million plus or minus 20 million, representing a 2% volume increase and reflecting some seasonality in Europe. Gross margin is expected to be in the range of .7% plus or minus 50 basis points, inclusive of tariff impacts and also expected higher input costs. Newport is expected to have an approximate 160 to 185 basis point drag on the margin in the third quarter. As we discussed last quarter, we are generally passing through additional tariff costs to customers. Thus tariff adders increase our revenues without impact on gross profit. The impacts of tariffs are generally limited and incorporated into our guidance for the third quarter. Appreciation expense is expected to be approximately 54 million for the third quarter and 212 million for the full year. SG&A expenses are expected to be 138 million plus or minus 2 million for the quarter. SG&A expenses for the full year are expected to be between 540 and 560 million, excluding the one-time benefit in Q2. Our gap effective tax rates not meaningful at low levels of pre-tax income and loss. As profitability returns, we would expect a normalized effective tax rate closer to our historical guidance of 30 to 32%. And finally, our stockholder return policy calls for us to return at least 70% of our free cash to stockholders in the form of dividends and stock repurchases. For 2025, we once again expect negative free cashflow due to our capacity expansion plans. For 2025, we expect to maintain our dividend and opportunistically repurchase shares based on US available liquidity in line with this policy. Now I'll turn the call back

to Joel. All right, thank you, Dave. Let's turn to slide 12 for an update on the strategic levers we're pulling as we execute our five-year strategic plan to drive faster revenue growth, elevate profitability and enhance returns on capital. For 2025, we plan to spend between 300 million to 350 million, at least 70% of which will be invested in capital expansion projects for our high growth product lines. During the second quarter, we continue to make progress on our semiconductor expansion projects. As our Newport wafer fab, we remain on schedule for silicon carbide pre-production in early 2026. During the second quarter, we completed the installation of all tools except one, which will be installed in the third quarter. For silicon MOSFETs, we also completed the transfer of three additional technologies and plan to transfer another two technologies in the third quarter. Finally, we released one automotive MOSFET while additional product qualifications are ongoing. Two large tier one customers have audited the facility and Newport receive excellent scores for the facility and the processes. The next customer audit is being scheduled in early Q4. At our foundry partner in Korea, SK Key Foundry, due to a technical issue, release dates have been pushed out one or two quarters. We now plan to release a total of eight technologies in the fourth quarter, four which are commercial, two are automotive grade and one, excuse me, two are ICs. As a result, we now expect to meet our goal of increasing the annualized capacity for MOSFETs by 12% in the first quarter of 2026. We also expect to increase annualized capacity for our advanced split gate MOSFETs by 25% to support new automotive and commercial opportunities in 2026. In Taiwan, we continue to advance the automotive qualification process and the volume ramp up for commercial diodes. In Turin, Italy, the qualification of commercial diodes is on track to be completed in the third quarter and we will expect to begin mass production in the fourth quarter. We also are on track to complete the qualification of the 1200 volt technology in the third quarter and begin mass production in the fourth quarter. Now for passive components. At our two facilities in Mexico, in La Laguna and in Juarez, we continue to qualify more commercial part numbers. We are also continuing to work on automotive grade qualifications for the sites. Once the site is up to automotive standards, customers will schedule audits beginning the second half of the year. With respect to our subcontractor initiative, we added another five subcontractors to our roster and qualified more than 8,000 part numbers, expanding our product portfolio of diodes, resistors and inductors. As a result, we can dedicate more of our capacity to high growth products and broaden our product portfolio to meet customer needs. Turning to innovation and our silicon carbide strategy, during the quarter we continue to advance towards commercialization of the planner MOSFETs, the 1200 volt planner, the 1700 volt planner and the 650 volt planner. Our 1200 volt trench MOSFET technology and our Gen 4 diodes, 650 volt and 1200 volt family. We released three more Gen 2 1200 volt planner MOSFETs in Q2, bringing the total now to four. By year end, we plan to release an additional 16 Gen 2 1200 volt MOSFETs for automotive and industrial applications. We remain on track to release the 1700 volt planner MOSFET and the 650 volt planner MOSFET in the first quarter of 2026. We are also on track to have samples of the 1200 volt trench available in the third quarter and still plan a market release in the fourth quarter. For silicon carbide diodes, we have fully released the Gen 4 1200 volt automotive diode and the Gen 4 650 volt. We still plan to release the entire silicon carbide Gen 4 diode family with all current ratings and power packages in the second half of the year. As for our solution selling initiative, we continue to release into catalog distribution reference designs that support common applications for automotive, industrial and AI computer solutions through our e-mobility lab. Specifically during the quarter, we released one reference design for 400 volt active discharge in an automotive application. We plan to release another 11 designs in the third quarter for battery management, 400 volt, 800 volt active discharge and current sensor and voltage sensor applications among others. In closing, let's turn to slide 13. Since the beginning of the year, we have seen some customers giving more visibility on their forward demand. Backlog is building in both semis and passives. With nine weeks left in Q3, shippable backlog is higher than at the same point in Q2. The backlog is building at a faster rate, giving us another signal that the market appears to be turning and we're making sure we have the right products on the distributor shelves. With market indicators directionally positive, we are preparing for a stronger second half of the year than compared to the first half. As the market upturn begins to become more firm, we work to be ready to meet customer demand in a much better position to offer competitive lead times as the backlog grows. Capacity readiness helps us to be a reliable supplier as the customer scales production and we are able to supply more part numbers to them. Capacity readiness allows us to reengage with inactive customers and regain their trust over time. Capacity readiness also means we are positioned to drive new customer engagement. On the technology front, we're intensifying our efforts to expand MOSFET capacity and develop new business through many avenues. Internal and external capacity expansions for front end and back end production are in place plus the advancements of silicon carbide as a new product technology for Bechet. In short, we have made great progress to position Bechet to participate more fully in all market segments. In particular, the higher growth markets of smart grid, AI, aerospace defense, and hybrid automotive. Amber, we're now ready to open the call up for questions.

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct the question and answer session. As a reminder to ask a question, you will need to press star one one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star one one again. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Ruplu Bhattachara of Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. My first one is on the impact of the new port fab. I think you had guided 175 to 200 bits of negative impact on gross margin for the second quarter, but the impact was just 160 bits. But then looking at the guide for fiscal 3Q, it's higher at 160 to 185. So if you can dive a little bit into details on what drove the outperformance versus your expectations for 2Q, and what is happening again in 3Q, and how should we think about this impact going forward, and when does it normalize?

Hi, Ruplu. That's a good question. So I think with our guidance, the 180 to 185, it's lower than we've done in the past year, right? We were 175 to 200, and we came in at 160. They're working hard on getting the product, building wafers, and we're moving towards Q3, and Q4 is starting to build inventory, and start to ship product. So it's a little unknown, so we wanted to give ourselves a little bit of a range. So 160, we were hoping we'd be at the low end of that range.

Okay, understood.

Answer honestly.

Okay, and then can I ask on the MOSFET gross margins? Looks like they declined 200 bips sequentially. What drove that, and how should we think about gross margin improvement in that section, in that segment going forward?

Let me take a look. So Ruplu, another good question. So on Q2, the MOSFET segment had some manufacturing inefficiencies that have been corrected in Q3. That'll show some improvement. We also will have an increase in our IC sales, Q2 and Q3, which comes at a higher margin for us, which will show some improvement. We're continuing on working on expanding our AI customer list, which will help with the margin improvement towards quarter four. So right now, the way it stands, we're hoping to exit the year 17 to 18%, excluding Newport on MOSFETs.

Okay, okay, that's helpful. So Dave, maybe I'll go three for three with you. Let me ask you another question on US tariffs impact. I think on the call you said that it'll be neutral. But if I look at the last quarter slides, you had a slide where you said passive components can have up to 170% tariffs, and semis manufactured in China can have up to 70%. So can you talk about the mechanics of this? How much of your product line is packaged in China, and how should we think about how much of that comes into the US, and how is the impact really of tariffs on the P&L?

Okay, hi, Rupudis Joel, I'll take this one. As far as the product percent that is manufactured in China and comes back to the US, in Q1 it was less than 4%. And we see about the same percentage in Q2 and Q3. It's a small percent, semiconductors and passives are similar, but it's a small percent of our overall revenue that comes back to the US that's manufactured in China.

Okay, all right, thanks for all the details. Let me ask you one final question, and then I'll pass on the line. Joel, in this environment, how are you thinking about the possibility of inorganic growth, M&A, and if you were to think about that, would that be in the passive side or active side, and what are some of the things that would be attractive? Thank you.

Okay, we always keep our eyes out for M&A opportunities. Semiconductor side, for sure, is something we look at. We look at ways to increase our presence at customer, so semis for sure. Passives, recently, we had the acquisition of a small in-rush current limiting company, Amatherm. We brought them on board because it did fill a gap in our portfolio, and that is developing. We also look at other passives, which could be vertical. They could be vertical acquisitions to help us with manufacturing materials, or it could be with customers. So we do keep our eyes open. We haven't moved away from that. I think we've done a good number of acquisitions in the first two and a half years of Vishay 3.0, and we continue to have that as a strategy.

Okay, thank you for all the details. Thank you, Ripley.

Have a good day.

Thank you. Our next question comes from Peter Peng of JP Morgan. Peter, your line is now open.

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my question. You guys mentioned about getting more visibility in Q3, and your backlog's building faster, and the market appears to turn. And so you guys are prepping for a stronger second and a half a year. If I look at some of your seasonal trends for the December quarter, it's typically down low single digits. So I can still get to a -on-half growth, but I'm just wondering if we should be expecting more of a above seasonal trend into the December quarter.

Okay, we like what we're seeing. It's definitely different than the last two years. As we look into the second half of the year, the BIPA, the billable backlog, is building at a greater rate than we have seen previously. The second half, Q3, you see our guide up slightly, also considering that Europe has some shutdowns in August. So August is a slower month. So we still feel we can guide up in Q3. Q4, the way the BIPA is building, at this point, we see that Q4 can be better than Q3.

Perfect, okay, that's helpful. And then just on your, and Mark, we've been hearing a lot of mixed signals across your pairs, some saying things are good and refilling, some are talking about pull forward. Maybe you can just provide some color on your customer base and whether you're seeing any pull forward of demand or maybe this is just refilling channel, maybe any color on that would be helpful.

Okay, I think what's interesting about the climate we're in, the customers as far as planning their demand are still not so forward looking. If we look at Asia, 55% of our orders seem to be for quick delivery. We talked about this in previous quarters as well. So even though we say the inventory is normalized, the safety net, I think the customers still think there's product out there that's quick to grab. It's not, and we're manufacturing quickly. We talk about turns orders in the quarter, we're able to take an order and turn it in the quarter. So I don't necessarily call that pull-ins. I just think that's the state of the business that we're in, is this transition from an inventory heavy market to customers looking at their demands as they have to build and trying to now find products. The inventory at distributors, we've seen our inventory go down. We talked about that to go from 27 weeks, the end of 2024 down to 23 weeks. So we're seeing good pull through with distribution. Automotive, the outlook we see for the second half with the schedule agreements from customers shows better than the first half. Aerospace defense, defense contractors speak about funding that's coming, so they say a stronger second half with likely orders in Q4. AI is a nice trajectory that moves up positively at a nice slope. And industrial smart grid, we see continued orders each quarter as governments release funding to redesign their electrical transmission lines. So that's positive in Asia, that's positive in Europe, and also positive in the Americas. So there is always the conversation about pull-ins, pull-ins to get ahead of tariffs, but I don't think that's the main driver here for us. I think these four application opportunities in those segments I talked about are really what's driving us forward. Okay, that's a good call.

It's nice to hear that you guys added more AI customers. I'm not sure if you guys can provide any color on what your revenue number is for your AI data. So if not, maybe you can give us some metrics on customer diversity. And then more importantly, how are you thinking about expanding applications into like second stage or PSU for the AI data center going forward?

Okay, the customer count is definitely growing. The big four that you always hear about, the Microsoft, the Meta, the Google, Apple, those are great design conversations. If you look at EMS, there's EMS that's also involved in the design, not just the manufacture of AI, but also the design. So our customer count has developed significantly. There's good engineering content, as we sit with customers, we speak about more than MOSFETs. We speak about more than ICs. We talk about capacitors, inductors, as well as resistors. So we have the broadest portfolio and we're able to support that. So it's really about expanding the part count as well as the customer count. So we believe we have two ways to do this, not just telling one technology or two, we've got multiple as we sit with the engineers and design in. So we're positive on AI and how Vichay can continue to participate with greater revenue.

Perfect. One more question if I may. I think in your prepared remarks, you talked about in your semi-business, some slipping of customer program. Maybe you can provide some color on what that is.

We were on the GB300. The original design, if you remember, it was called Cordelia, which had the chip set design that was gonna snap in to the board. That design changed. They went to a new design called Bianca, which is no longer using that connector snap in connection. So we were in a strong position with that first design concept. The orders that we were planning for P6 and P7 have been adjusted because the design changed to Bianca. And now we're working on the design side to make sure we're on that program. Got it. Okay, that's helpful. Okay, that's

all I have and I'll jump back in.

Peter, thank you. Nice talk to you.

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would like to now turn it back over to the President and CEO, Joe Smickle, for closing remarks.

Thank you, Amber. Thank you everyone for joining us for our second quarter earnings conference call. We're making great progress to participate more fully in the market upturn, capacity ready and reliable supply to our customers and to be aligned for the market growth drivers that we've spoken about in AI, smart grid infrastructure, aerospace defense and automotive. We look forward to reporting our third quarter results to you in November. Thank you very much and enjoy the rest of your summer.

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