VTEX

Q1 2022 Earnings Conference Call

5/12/2022

spk08: Good morning and welcome to the VTEC's reports first quarter 2022 financial results. My name is Brika and I'll be today's event specialist. There will be a question and answer session, and if you wish to ask a question, you may press star followed by one on your telephone keypad. Your host for today's call will be Julia Vota-Fernandez. So, Julia, please begin when you're ready.
spk07: Hello, everyone, and welcome to the VTEX Earnings Conference Call for the quarter ended March 31st, 2022. I'm Julia Batas-Hernandez, Investor Relations Director for VTEX. Our senior executives presenting today are Geraldo Thomas Jr., founder and co-CEO, and Ricarda Canata-Sodré, finance executive officer. Additionally, Mariana Gomide de Faria, founder and co-CEO, and Andres Polidoro, chief financial officer, will be available during today's Q&A session. I would like to remind you that management may make forward-looking statements relating to such matters as continued growth prospects for the company, industry trends, and product and technology initiatives. These statements are based on our currently available information and our current assumptions, expectations, and projections about future events. While we believe that our assumptions, expectations, and projections are reasonable in view of the currently available information, you are cautioned not to place on your reliance on these forward-looking statements. Certain risks and uncertainties are described on the risk factors and forward-looking statement sections of BTEX Form 20F for the year end of December 31, 2021, and other BTEX filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, which are available on our Investor Relations website. Finally, I would like to remind you that during the course of this conference call, we might discuss some non-GAAP measures. A reconciliation of those measures to the nearest comparable GAAP measures can be found in our first quarter 2022 earnings press release available on our investor relations website. Now, let me turn the call over to Geraldo. Geraldo, the floor is yours.
spk00: Thank you, Julia. Welcome, everyone, and thanks for joining our first quarter 2022 earnings conference call. We started the year with a strong first quarter. Our business delivered solid growth with good execution across all regions, solidifying our position as the leader in the digital landscape in Latin America and strengthening our global footprint. I'm excited to update you on our progress in making VTAS the backbone of global commerce. In the first quarter, GMV has a robust performance as a consequence of healthier consumer sentiment in Latin America, as well as initial recovery of some verticals, such as electronics that were affected by inventory shortage in the second half of last year. Meanwhile, verticals such as apparel and accessories, beauty and healthy and groceries continued its high growth performance. all above 50% year-over-year growth in USD. As a consequence, GMV growth accelerated to 33.3% in U.S. dollars, resulting in 18.6 percentage points increases versus our fourth quarter GMV growth. Another highlight here is that Mexico's performance outpaced the region this quarter, showing strong indications of traction. We continue attracting premier brands and retailers. This quarter, we more than doubled in dollar amounts the goal lives of new stores in the Vitex platform, demonstrating that we're bringing into production the attractive backlog we mentioned during the second half of last year. Some new customers that went live this quarter that didn't have online store presence in the respective countries before were Boston Medical Group in Mexico, Xiaomi in Peru, Under Armour in Uruguay, Echo Water in Canada, and Colgate in Brazil. We also added customers that migrated from other competitive platforms, including Brigham Stratton in the U.S., Angeloni in Brazil, Moulinex and Arcor in Argentina, and Easy in Chile. Furthermore, during the quarter, we had a healthy sales momentum in new stores' contract signatures, which give us confidence in the sustainability of our business model. On top of strong momentum with new customers, we continue to build and transfer the sticking relationship with our existing customers. Some premier brands and retailers that expanded their operations with us by opening new online stores in new countries during the first quarter of the war. AB InBev added Mexico additionally to other eight countries in Latin America. H&M added Colombia, now totaling four countries in Latin America. Oyster, who was previously operating in six countries in Latin America, now added Argentina. Walmart in Central America, expanding their operations from five to seven countries in the region. And Whirlpool added France, India, Poland, and Singapore. currently operating with us across 15 countries across the globe. Additionally, in March of this year, Gartner published its Gartner Peer Insights Voice of the Customer Digital Commerce Report Review, where Vitex was named a strong performer. one of the things that we're most proud of in the report is that as of january 2022 96 percent of vtex customers reviewers are willing to recommend the text to others the highest score amongst our peers we believe this is a huge validation of our product and technology purely based on our customer feedback and give us the confidence to continue pushing forward towards our desired future. We know we cannot do all this alone. We believe in the multiplying force of collaboration. One of our key competitive advantages is our ecosystem, and that's why we will continue to nurture and expand our partners. Since our last earnings release, we have launched strategic partnerships with PayPal, eBanks, TikTok, as well as expanded our partnership with MercadoLibre. Our partnership with PayPal aims to strengthen our internationalization strategy and bring ZTEX customers close to excellent technological solutions for local and cross-border trade in the 38 countries where we operate. In line with our payment strategy, this partnership will contribute to the further monetization of our ecosystem. Subsequent to the first quarter of 2022, we launched the partnership with eBanks and TikTok. Our partnership with eBanks is also focused on cross-border payments collaboration in Latin America and to broaden cross-border payments for Brazilian e-commerce companies in Latin America. Through this union, Brazilian companies will be able to enjoy more than 100 payment methods in 15 countries across Latin America. With this partnership, we reinforce one of the pillars of the Vitex platform, which is to offer our customers new ways to grow their business through a complete solution. Similarly to PayPal, the eBanks partnership will be monetized with a rebate on the payment volume that flows through our platform. We also partnered with TikTok for business in order to offer an app that is available in the VTech App Store for all customers that integrate directly to TikTok, improving our customer's asset sharing process with the social media giant. We expect this to also help our customers to get better ad results as consumers will find more accurate products and avoid ads for sold-outs and out-of-stocks products. This app will help customers to use TikTok for business features on ZTEX Admin directly. Initially, it will be available for ZTEX customers in Brazil, and in the coming months, it will be expanded to other countries in Latin, Europe, Asia, and the U.S. We are happy to share that we have already early adopters that are anxious to test the app, such as Carrefour, L'Oréal, Reserva, and among many others. Last but not least, in addition to Brazil, we now have the certified integrations with MercadoLibre in Argentina, Chile, Colombia, and Peru. This is a significant milestone in our journey to become the center of a vast network that natively connects every part of the global digital commerce ecosystem. Before wrapping up, I'd like now to revisit our four product strategic priorities. This time, I'm going to focus our innovation update section on cases that our customers shared with the audience during the VTech Day. For context, VTEX Day is the largest digital commerce event in Latin America and the third largest in the world. Taking place in Sao Paulo, VTEX Day has had over 25,000 attendees during its two days. Starting with CNA, a multinational fashion retailer that besides fashion items also sells smartphones and accessories. Whenever a smartphone is out of stock in CNA's own warehouse, the VTEX platform enables a transparent connection to Samsung's inventory, which does the fulfillment and delivers it directly to the consumer. With this frictionless connection between the brand inventory, CNA significantly improves its conversion rate, and Samsung sells an additional smartphone. while both are also enhancing the end consumer experience. This is a clear demonstration of how CNA and Samsung are benefiting from our zero-friction onboarding and collaboration product pillar. Another interesting case is the one from Kobazi, one of the largest pet shops in Brazil. A pioneer in the megastore concept, focused especially on the care of pets and home and garden with more than 150 stores. During Vitex Day, Kobazi shared the benefits they witnessed after adopting multiple Vitex solutions. including seller portal, OMS, in-store, external and internal marketplace, shipping from store, live commerce, among others. That enables co-buyers to simplify processes and, more important, make sure that they offer a consistent experience to their customers across all channels. For instance, Since they adopted our shipping from store feature, they reduced the delivery time to two hours on 60% of their deliveries and increased the omni-channel penetration to 70% of total orders. In line with our vision to become the single control panel for every order, Kobazi highlighted the relevancy of having one source of truth for centralizing the multiple channels that commercialize the product. During VTEX Day, Whirlpool talked about the challenges of digitalizing as a huge brand manufacturer. Their digital transformation required structured changes, such as building an in-house technology team. Building this tech team enabled Whirlpool to build critical business solutions internally and on top of the VTEX platform. One of the outcomes of this partnership is the supply chain integration project, through which Whirlpool consolidates all product information in a single place with delivery time precision in all regions and distribution channels. This capability goes as far as enabling the manufacturer to sell a refrigerator currently located in a container in the middle of the sea. With this, Whirlpool achieved a positive impact on business indicators, such as an increase in consumer NPS by 16%. Along this line, Decaprio is also driving a unified commerce strategy and transforming the role of brick-and-mortar stores with its detoxing store. During the test day, Decathlon stated that the convergence across sales channels is the foundation for a successful customer experience. The sporting goods chain backed on the implementation of our endless I.O. and fulfillment modules in all its stores. With the endless IO capability, the store sales rep has access to all e-commerce available inventory and even other stores, enabling the sales rep to place the order and not lose the opportunity with the consumer. For companies with a large catalog, such as Decathlon, which has over 15,000 SKUs, the solution increases the chances of conversion by expanding the inventory and catalog assortment using both warehouses and physical stores. Leveraging the tech capabilities, Decathlon shared that the endless IO orders placed in-store currently represent 5% of total brick-and-mortar sales. Decathlon is now able to run the full customer journey in a single place, aligned with our single control panel for every order product pillar. Additionally, During VTech Day, Samsung shared its live shopping adoption journey. As a highlight, they had a live shopping event in Mexico this quarter where they launched a new Galaxy S22 5G. In the event, they sold more than $1 million in GMV, engaging almost 12,000 viewers in only 54 minutes. This Samsung use case is another demonstration of our vision of VTech becoming the single control planner for every order. Looking at our live shopping app adoption throughout VTech's customer base. During the first quarter of 2022, we had more than 130 live shopping events with a positive trend month over month. We started the year with 24 events in January 22 and ended the quarter with 61 events in March 22. Along with Samsung, companies like Nestle, Senconsuit, Coca-Cola, Grupo Exito, Fravega, among many others, have already adopted the solution. Additionally, and subsequent to the first quarter of 2022, on April 25th, We had our first live shopping event in the U.S. with Motorola. We're now offering live shopping across 14 countries with over 150 active accounts. Michael Kors shared their experience with the adoption of our new VTech Shipping Network feature. The new functionality acts as a broker of shipping services choosing the most efficient partner for each route and product delivery. Michael Kors not only shared their experience in terms of improvements in delivering times and SLAs, but also focused on the efficiencies they've been able to reach with around 10% shipping cost savings and the traceability of the deliveries. This use case from Michael Kors is a demonstration of how we are delivering commerce on autopilot and co-pilot to our customers to help them succeed in their digital transformation. Looking at our logistics market opportunity more broadly, according to industry sources, shipping costs represent around 10% of our customers' revenue. Early adopters of the VTEX shipping network are experiencing significant shipping cost savings, aligned with Michael Kors' case, leading to a low single-digit percentage point increase in their digital commerce operating income. All the developing platforms of choice for digital commerce were proud to announce that we continue attracting developers to our local platforms. gaining momentum in the community and scaling our capabilities. Monthly active developers assessing the Vitek's development portal increased to more than 24,000 in the first quarter of 2022, from more than 20,000 in the first quarter of 2021. Wrapping up our operational update section, I would like to thank our 1,765 detectives that have worked and continue working efficiently to fulfill our mission, as well as our customers, partners, and investors. Now, I will turn the call to Ricardo, so he can cover our financial progress report for the quarter. Thank you, Geraldo.
spk01: Hi, everyone. It's a pleasure to be here updating you on our financial performance for the first quarter of 2022. This quarter, our revenue increased to $34.7 million, a year-over-year increase of 33.7% in U.S. dollars and 29.7% on a FX-neutral basis. Furthermore, this increase was on top of our same quarter last year revenue growth of 77.0% on a FX-neutral basis. This growth rate acceleration was driven by a significant increase in the same store sales of our existing customers and by new stores coming online. Subscription revenue represented 94.0% of total revenue versus 95.1% in the same quarter last year. This is explained by the strong sales momentum we are having and the implementation of our backlog leads to increases in our services revenue. Subscription revenue increased to $32.6 million in the first quarter of 2022, from $24.7 million in the first quarter of 2021. A year-over-year increase of 32.1% in U.S. dollars and 27.7% on a FX neutral basis. Now, moving down our P&L. Non-GAAP subscription gross profit was $22.7 million compared to $16.1 million in the first quarter of 2021. Non-GAAP subscription gross margin was 69.6% in the first quarter of 2022 compared to 65.1% in the same quarter of 2021. The 466 basis points year-over-year improvement reflects operational hosting cost efficiencies as we migrate non-core hosting services and improve our code efficiency. On top of the subscription gross margin expansion, we also increase our services gross margin. which led to overall gross profit reaching $22.1 million, representing a year-over-year increase of 46.1% and a margin improvement of 563 basis points. Our non-GAAP loss from operations was $13.7 million during the first quarter of 2022, compared to $8.0 million in the first quarter of 2021. primarily due to incremental personnel-related investments in sales and marketing and research and development, as we have been investing to capture market share and benefit from the further penetration of e-commerce. We continue to see abstracted unit economics from our investments to bring new online stores to our platforms. We also have some key areas of investment related to our product side, such as live shopping, conversational and social commerce, fast store, VTAC shipping network, B2B, among others. We are going to continue to pursue these opportunities as we believe they are fundamental for our long-term growth, while being committed to be disciplined on our allocation of resources. As of the three months ended March 31, 2022, VTEX had a negative $16.1 million free cash flow compared to $21.3 million negative free cash flow in the fourth quarter of 2021. This improvement of almost 25% quarter over quarter, on top of the sequential acceleration on a top-line perspective, is a reflection of our capability to deliver sustainable growth while moving towards a cash generative scenario, as we historically have. In addition, it is important to mention that we ended the quarter with more than $270 million in net cash in our balance sheets. On top of this strong cash position, we are committed to efficiency. We increased our headcount from 1,727 employees at the end of the fourth quarter 2021 to 1,765 employees by the end of the first quarter 2022, a moderate increase of 2.2% quarter over quarter. Our non-GAAP total operating expenses increased from $34.4 million to $35.9 million, a slightly higher increase of 4.4% quarter over quarter, even some senior hires we onboarded in our team over the last couple months. While VTECH's day will have some one-off impact on our expenses in Q2, we expect our Q3 and Q4 expenses to reflect an even lower quarter-over-quarter increase than we delivered in Q1. Therefore, looking forward to the remainder of 2022, we continue to expect delivering significant operating margin expansion. Regarding our future outlook, While we had a solid year-over-year performance in Q1, we continue to see significant macroeconomic uncertainty and volatility in our customers' GMV performance. Additionally, it is important to note that the second quarter of 2022 has a harder year-over-year comp due to the second wave of COVID in Latin America, with cases increasing significantly from March to June of last year. Therefore, we are currently targeting revenue in the $37.5 million to $38.5 million range for the second quarter of 2022, implying a year-over-year growth of 23% in U.S. dollars and 20% on FX neutral basis in the middle of the range. For the full year 2022, given the macro conditions and recent volatility previously mentioned, we expect an FX neutral year-over-year revenue growth of 24% to 27%, implying a range of $160 to $164 million based on the first quarter average FX rates. Wrapping up today's call, VTech had a solid start of the year with robust top line performance, margin expansion, strong backlog undergoing implementation, and of course, many new exciting products and partnerships now available in our platform. All of this together gives us the confidence in our business today and in the long-term opportunity we have ahead of us. We'll continue focusing on our differentiation, the quality of our platform's technology, product and features, as well as continually developing the ecosystem around it, which will push us even further. With that, let's open it up for questions now. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star, then 1 on your telephone keypad. If you're using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press Start then 2. We have our first question on the phone lines from Susie Maginna from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
spk06: Hi, thanks for taking my call. I have two questions. The first one is related to the guidance. Can you, because it has changed and I believe is different relative to the one that you presented with the fourth quarter results, can you break down the drivers behind that change? you know more difficulty acquiring your customers is it the lower outlook for net revenue retention uh things like that that's the first question second question any comments on your store backlog in the past it was growing i don't know if i recall correctly triple digits where where are you seeing right now thank you thanks for your question cesar that's a very good question and happy to elaborate further
spk01: Before talking about the guidance and forward-looking aspects, it's important to note that we have a strong performance in Q1. Our GMV growth of 33% and revenue growth of 34% in U.S. dollars were quite robust considering the current macro scenario and the organic growth of the digital commerce software market. Now, on the top line guidance specifically, I would highlight two key factors we took into consideration. The first one is macroeconomic conditions. We are all seeing inflation rising globally and interest rates being increased to reduce inflation. These increasing rates can obviously impact the retail sector, although it is still uncertain to what extent. So this is what we mean by macro uncertainty. The second one is consumer behavior post-COVID. We are seeing the reopening of stores for a few months now. However, consumer behavior continues to change. We believe omnichannel strategies will be of the utmost importance, and we can help our customers with that. However, the path to get there may not be linear or smooth. So this is what we mean by the volatility in our customers' GMV. Having said that, we adjusted our FX neutral growth guidance from 24% to 27% in 2022. But given the appreciation of the currencies in Latin America, that now implies a range of $160 to $164 million. In addition, we are also committed to efficiency. In Q1, we delivered more than 500 basis points increase in gross margin year over year, and we only increased our headcount by 2%. And finally, we continue to be committed to deliver significant operating margin expansion in 2022. So I think that answers the guidance question. And I can talk a little bit about the backlog that you asked as well. So we continue to have a strong backlog. Our backlog was doubling year over year, as you mentioned in your question, for a couple quarters. And now we see the backlog growth more aligned with our revenue growth, which is expected. And it's at a healthy level to sustain our revenue growth projection. We also continue to see contract signatures at a healthy pace. We are monitoring closely how this strong backlog translates into online stores go live and new revenue for VTechs. And given the current macro conditions, we are being more conservative in our assumption of go live slash ramp up time of new customers. Having said that, we continue to win new customers at a healthy pace, with some new wins mentioned in our priorities, and we continue to implement our backlog. For instance, as mentioned by Geraldo in the prepared remarks, the dollar amount of go-lifes we had in Q1 was more than double what we had in Q1 2021. And it's also interesting to know that we have been able to attract more large enterprise customers across the globe. with these large enterprise customers increasing their dollar share of the backlog over the past year. So I hope that answers both your questions.
spk06: Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. The next question we have comes from from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
spk03: Good evening, all. Thanks for taking our questions. Two questions from our side. The first one on active developers. The overall number of active developers accessing the VTech Dev Portal increased quite a bit this quarter, as you said. Could you give us some more color on the drivers for that and also on how the number of developers, particularly outside LATAM, is evolving? Second question from our side. Thinking about your partnerships with payment providers, which you emphasized in this call, could that become a driver for a relevant improvement in your overall take rate in the longer term, perhaps? Thank you.
spk01: I think you're on mute, Geraldo.
spk00: I'm so sorry. Sorry, Vitor. I was on mute. So, thank you for the question. About the developers, we have this idea of being the developer platform for commerce developers, and we think the word of commerce will be more complex, not less complex, will be more fragmented, not less fragmented. and we need, in the long term, the support of the ecosystem around us. So this is a very important leading indicator for us. It's growing, it's coming from a lot of regions, not only the US, not only at all, and it's driven by this push that we are doing, that we call Vitex IO, which is us providing a development environment for the developers so that they can use their talents to get revenue out of the ecosystem that we created on the merchant side. So this is, we are That's a big push. As we grow to other territories as well, we need to be more formal. When we were in Brazil, there was this the study hoc knowledge about our platform. Now that we are in a lot of other countries, we need the support of the documentation, and we can check if we've been successful educating our ecosystem with this KPI. What's the second question again? I'm sorry. Oh, the payment method. No problem. Ricardo, could you talk a little bit about the payment method and the impact on the take-raise?
spk01: Yeah, I'm happy to take this one, Geraldo. Perfect. Before talking about our partnerships with PayPal, eBanks, and payments in general, let's just take a step back and talk about payments more broadly and how we see it. So VTEX focuses on enterprise customers. And as you probably know, Victor, payments volume is an inverted pyramid, where enterprise customers tend to bring a large amount of TPV, but the payments profit pool is a regular pyramid, where enterprise customers tend to bring only a limited amount of the profit pool. Additionally, payments for enterprises is premature in competitive markets. So knowing this context, VTAC has decided to build a payment gateway, and through this gateway, build partnerships with payment providers and slash acquirers, instead of building our own payment acquiring or processing solution for enterprise customers. By building partnerships in payments, we create value in two ways. First, we ensure BTEX customers are happy as they can implement payment solutions in a frictionless way, as well as switch providers as needed. This potentially helps us reduce our churn and increase the lifetime value of our customers. Second, we give a distribution network to payment providers where they can offer their solution to VTEX customers in a scalable way. So considering this strategy, we are starting to monetize our payment partnerships based on the GMV of our customers that flow through as CPV to our payment partners. In the end, we charge a low double-digit basis point fee on our payment partners' TPV that flows through the VTEX platform. So hopefully that answers your question.
spk03: Very clear, low double-digits. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Your next question comes from Clark Jeffries of Piper Sandler. Your line is open, Clark.
spk05: Hello, and thank you for taking the question. You know, certainly encouraging to hear about the doubling of new store starts, but I kind of wanted to refine a previous question around, you know, the inputs to guidance. I recognize the macro considerations to GMV, but maybe talking specifically about the sentiment of the brands and the merchants that you're talking to. Has anything fundamentally changed in the last year? Anything that would change your confidence in new contract signings or new brands being onboarded onto the platform? Recognize that GMB is hard to control and a little bit external to the platform, but wanted to get a temperature gauge on the brand conversations at this point in time.
spk01: Yeah. Hi, Clark. Thanks for the question. I'm happy to further elaborate. As I mentioned on the guidance and future looking aspects, we have the macroeconomic conditions in our customers' GMV. Regarding the macroeconomic conditions, there is uncertainty of how much the increasing interest rate will impact retail sector globally. And going one level deeper, given the low level of penetration of e-commerce, especially in Latin America, some increasing penetration could help soften the impact of e-commerce. So there are a couple of moving pieces here, and we will have more clarity on these as we move through the year. Now, more specifically to your question, moving on to our customers' GMV, consumer behavior post-COVID could impact our existing customers' GMV and the ramp-up of the new customers. For example, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks, the same time last year, most countries in Latin America were going through a second wave of COVID. and in Q2 2020, we were undergoing the first wave of COVID with many countries in lockdown. Therefore, in Q2 this year, we are facing the toughest two-year CAGR comp in GMB, with an FX neutral two-year CAGR of 87%. Considering this, it's natural to see a lower Q2 growth and expect some recovery in the second half of the year. For instance, these 87% two-year CAGR GMV comp in Q2 will reduce to 74% in Q3 and then 63% in Q4. Now, on new contracts and the implementation, we continue to sign new contracts at a healthy pace. And as I said, the implementation of new customers could be impacted on the ramp-up time given the macroeconomic conditions. So we are being mindful of that as well.
spk05: You got it. And then maybe to clarify my question, the second part of that is just The willingness to purchase and implement is at the same pace that it has been before. There's been no change to sort of the interest level or the pipeline for new contract signings. Maybe just a second question. You know, I think I heard, you know, Briggs & Stratton as a U.S. customer, and maybe if I heard correctly, a live streaming kind of functionality used by Motorola in North America. You know, how do you feel about the U.S. market at this point? Is it still in kind of an exploratory phase with existing customers? Any new learnings that you can share in terms of how you're hiring in North America to address that locale?
spk02: Hi, Mariano here. So the first question is, are there no fundamental changes on the willingness of retailers and brand manufacturers to re-perform and engaging for the G-Store? We are seeing a strong trend on that, but as Sodré said, on the implementation phase, Maybe we are recognizing some delaying, let's say, in how they ramp up the operation. So the urgency that we saw in 2020, 2021 because of COVID, it is not in that 100% as was before, but didn't change anything on the willingness of investing for new platforms and digital. The live shopping, as you mentioned, it is a 52% market in Asia. And in markets like the United States, it's almost zero. So we see that as a big trend. We have been investing in this in the last two years. We launched a product on this. And in the live shopping, we do have more than 100 clients in more than 15 countries already using the live shopping. So we see that as a new channel open, and it is for sure an opportunity for us and for our clients. Really appreciate it. Thank you.
spk08: Thank you. Again, if you'd like to ask a question, please press star, then 1. We now have a question from Will Carlson of KeyBank Capital Markets. Your line is open.
spk04: Hey, guys. Will on for Josh Beck. I think it'd be really helpful if you could just give a little bit more color on the trends that you're seeing in sub-verticals, specifically looking at mobile, social, and physical. And then also just kind of going off that, if you could talk a little bit to how you're seeing customers react to this in certain ways, maybe kind of how they're modernizing certain aspects of their online stores. I heard you mention something about a delay as compared to COVID, but, yeah, just a little bit of color on that would be awesome. Thanks.
spk02: Yeah, Mariano here again. So social... It is, let's divide social in two. There are the social, but the paid social channels. That was a boom in the last five years. But actually, the social channels now becomes very expensive for the expansion and acquisition of new customers. That said, marketplaces and paid channels are in the limit of their price. Retailers and brand manufacturers will not pay much more than what they are paying now. So we are seeing a merge of more organic channels, like shopping, like channels, like conversational channels, like personal shopper. Those are the channels I believe retailers and brands will invest, and that is also social, right? So we are seeing a much bigger kind of a trend by merging the physical stores and online operation, by having the salespeople as the central piece of the social engagement. So this engagement digital economy will emerge in the markets that we are. We believe Latin America will be in the forefront because of the penetration of WhatsApp, but we also believe that the United States will follow with the Apple business chat. So social, it is in the center of what we are doing. Mobile, it is still really high, right? Didn't change. What we are seeing is now companies investing more in a very simple way to approach mobile. They try to replicate what was the desktop. experience but now they are investing to simplify this and the results of it it is the increase on conversion rates so what we see as a disruptor it is this new social selling that's for sure will change the percentage in between the channels that the retail can see right now about the the speed of implementation right So what we are seeing is that the speed and the urgency of the projects, it is not as a survival mode as it was in 2021 and 2020 because of COVID. It is more likely to recover the pace of 2019 and 2018. So we are expecting and being conservative on the implementation pace of the accounts that we have in our buildings.
spk00: And Josh, let me... Let me add to Mariano. You know, this might be a little bit accentuated by the fact that everybody may be expecting a recession in the future. And maybe they are thinking, stop to think a little bit. So because of that, we're seeing a slightly bigger aging in our backlog. And so people are in less hurry building products, deploying products because of the phase of COVID. And eventually, this is also because they're expecting some downturn in the economy.
spk02: Super helpful. Thanks, guys.
spk08: Thank you. There are no further questions. I'd like to hand it back to the team.
spk00: Thank you for joining us once again. We're honored to be here with you sharing our progress. We're witnessing an increasing momentum in the tax attractiveness for enterprise brands worldwide. We're committed to continue maximizing growth while being disciplined on how we deploy capital. We've set the foundations for sustainable growth over the years to come while progressively improving margins over time. We're now a stronger company than ever, and we're confident in the long-term opportunity for Vitex. Looking forward to keeping you updated on our progress. Good afternoon for everyone. You may now disconnect. Thank you.
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