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V2X, Inc.

Q12025

5/5/2025

speaker
Conference Operator
Moderator

Good day and welcome to the V2X First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. Should you need assistance, please signal a conference specialist by pressing the star key followed by zero. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your questions, you may press star then two. Please note, this event has been recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Mike Smith, Corporate Vice President, Treasury, Investor Relations, and Corporate Development. Please go ahead, sir.

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Mike Smith
Corporate Vice President, Treasury, Investor Relations, and Corporate Development

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to the V2X First Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Joining us today are Jeremy Wensinger, President and Chief Executive Officer, and Shah Mural, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Slides for today's presentation are available on the Investor Relations section of our website, gov2x.com. Please turn to slide two. During today's presentation, management will be making forward-looking statements pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. Please review our safe harbor statement in our press release and presentation materials for a description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from the results contemplated by these forward-looking statements. The company assumes no obligation to update its forward-looking statements. In addition, in today's remarks, we will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures because management believes such measures are useful to investors. You can find a reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable measure calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP on our slide presentation and in our earnings release filed with the SEC, both of which are available on the investor relations section of our website. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Jeremy.

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Mike, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. Before we get started, I'd like to recognize our team for their contributions and unwavering commitment to our customers' mission success. This commitment was demonstrated firsthand during the quarter with our customers, being awarded a meritorious unit commendation for exceptional performance in training student naval aviators. B2X is proud to have contributed to this achievement by delivering industry-leading aircraft and fleet readiness that is yielding unprecedented success in preparing the next generation of naval aviators. Our people are the foundation of our business, and with that, we are delighted to welcome Mellon Ushula as Chief Human Resources Officer. As we continue to scale globally and invest in growth in our people, Mellon brings the right combination of experience and leadership to help shape the future of our workforce. Please turn to slide three. In today's call, I'm going to discuss the trends we are seeing in our business, our solid positioning, and catalysts in front of us to drive future growth and value creation. Starting with the first quarter results, revenue was $1.02 billion driven by a 10% year-over-year increase in the Indo-Pacific region. Adjusted EBITDA was $67 million consistent with our anticipated quarterly cadence. Adjusted EPS was 98 cents. The overall trends in our market remain positive and are being driven by customer requirements to improve deterrence, enhance readiness, and strengthen national security. We are performing well as V2X possesses full lifecycle mission-driven solutions that deliver on these requirements. The V2X value proposition is being recognized by customers and is demonstrated by our recent awards and extensions, which provide substantial visibility for the next several years. We are leveraging our portfolio of capabilities, geographic footprint, and limited recompete cycle to pursue larger opportunities that leverage the full breadth of capabilities that I'll discuss in further detail shortly. Additionally, the foreign military sales and international markets continue to represent a large and growing opportunity for us to deliver more solutions across areas we've already operate. These customers know us and trust us, and they see the benefits of our solutions. Our focused engagement strategy and visible presence with customers is yielding substantial traction over several opportunities that align exactly to our core capabilities. I look forward to updating you on these opportunities as they mature here in 2025. In total, our bid velocity is increasing under the leadership of Roger Mason. Our visibility has improved. We are investing for growth and taking advantage of the tailwinds to drive future bookings, revenue, cash flow, and value for our shareholders. Our solid and consistent financial performance once again allowed us to enhance our capital structure. further reducing interest expense and improving key terms of our credit facility. Importantly, our liquidity profile is strong at approximately $650 million. There is nothing we have seen to date from tariffs, budgetary requests, administration priorities that would change our strong position in the markets we serve. Our visibility into future macroeconomic decisions policy trends, national security, and emerging defense budget priorities suggest positive impacts on our current work as well as favorable opportunities for our new business pipeline. Given our first quarter performance, market positioning, and visibility, we are remaining confident in our ability to achieve our 2025 commitments. As such, we are reaffirming our guidance. Please turn to slide four. The V2X value proposition is being recognized by customers and is demonstrated by wins and accomplishments that are listed on this slide. Today, we are with our customers at every phase of execution, playing a critical role delivering comprehensive end-to-end capabilities that support enduring missions of consequence around the globe. This was recently demonstrated through a $62 million contract with the Space Force to ensure operational readiness of the Cobra Dame radar system in Alaska. B-2X is extending the capabilities and readiness of the key radar that supports U.S. ballistic missile defense and space domain awareness. On the upper right side of the page, and with the same customer but over 8,000 miles away from Cobra Dane, our value, trust, and ability to provide full lifecycle solutions was further recognized through a $140 million award to support a key Space Force tracking and instrumentation station at the Ascension Islands. Ascension Island combined with Cobra Dane showcased our ability to deliver critical capabilities in support of national security at scale across the globe. V2X is emerging as a critical enabler of our nation's marquee space domain awareness infrastructure. One of our customers' major priorities is ensuring our warfighters have the absolute best training in order to deter threats. Additionally, with military recruiting reaching the highest levels in decades, We believe the demand for training solutions continue to grow and receive strong support for overall troop readiness, as outlined by the administration. This emphasis aligns precisely to where V2X is positioned and growing. For example, during the quarter, we were awarded positions on two training service programs, which are listed on the upper middle section of the slide. These wins, when combined with our WTRS award, completes V2X with the trifecta of premier Army training contracts. From every soldier and every weapon system to every major training installation, V2X supports every stage of the warfighter's training journey with integrated solutions that enhance preparedness and national security. Another top priority of the administration is improving overall readiness capabilities. which is also a core V2X offering and a differentiator. We deliver readiness, multiplying solutions that are generating some of the highest aircraft readiness rates and are well positioned to capitalize on increasing customer demand. This was most recently demonstrated through a $103 million award to provide engineering, upgrade maintenance, and modifications to the Navy C-26 aircraft. This win highlights the Navy's confidence in V2X's ability to deliver mission-capable aircraft with industry-leading readiness rates north of 90%. Our world-class execution backed by customer ratings, global footprint, and comprehensive capabilities are creating avenues and opportunities with new customers that want the V2X solution. This was evidenced in the first quarter with a $100 million reward with the FBI to make sure the aircraft remained fully mission-ready to meet evolving operational demands. This customer saw the performance, solutions, agility, and value V2X is delivering to other customers and sought after V2X to deliver the same operational readiness for their mission. V2X improves customer outcomes with mission-matched solutions. Our past performance has demonstrated our ability to support some of the highest priority national security requirements every single day. This is what makes us a trusted partner and was further validated with the Army's notification to extend several of our log cap task orders into June 2030. This, combined with our recent awards, further strengthens our foundation. Now I'd like to turn it over to Sean, who will discuss how these achievements are significantly improving our visibility and the base from which we can grow. Sean?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Jeremy, and good afternoon, everyone. Please turn to slide five. Our year-to-date success with securing new awards, re-competes, and extensions has resulted in significantly reducing the overall percentage of re-competes that comprise our expected 2025 revenue. The progress we are seeing in efforts that Jeremy just discussed as well as our growth related activities focused on increasing proposal volume and larger scale opportunities bode well for continued growth and value creation. Furthermore, with our awards and extensions, visibility is improving with our top five programs having approximately five years of revenue runway. This provides improved revenue visibility while also presenting optionality to allocate resources for continued growth. We anticipate the combination of these efforts will yield bookings growth, further strengthening backlog, which already represents approximately three times annual revenue. I'd like to note that at the current time, the log cap extensions and the Space Force Ascension Island Award we just discussed are not included in backlog. Additionally, as previously discussed, we expect to incrementally book activities associated with the Warfighter Training and Readiness Program into backlog as they are transitioned. I'll now turn it back over to Jeremy to discuss our growth efforts and catalysts.

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Please turn to slide six. B2X is in an enviable position with our top five programs extending through mid-2029 and beyond. This significant re-compete holiday creates a remarkable opportunity to further our focus to win new programs. We are already well underway capitalizing on this position through accelerating bid velocity. The total volume of bids we plan to submit this year is 50% more than that will be submitted in 2024. We are not only bidding more opportunities, we are bidding bigger pursuits and key franchise programs by leveraging the full depth and breadth of our portfolio. This focus is reflected in the fact that over the next 12 months, we anticipate submitting bids on five opportunities that are valued at or above $1 billion. A majority of these bids require the capabilities from across the company executed as one V2X to pursue and win, thus unlocking a larger pipeline of opportunities to drive future growth. Importantly, we have the proof points that V2X can win large multidimensional programs, which was clearly demonstrated with the recent WTRS award. Since the award of WTRS, we have incrementally added larger pursuits that leverage the full breadth of V2X and look forward to updating you on the progress as these opportunities are awarded. In addition to harnessing the full capability set of V2X, we are prioritizing key partnerships that further elevate the value proposition of our solutions and expand our global addressable market. These channels have not been a material component of our business in the past, but represent a real near-term opportunity to the growth of V2X on a global basis via new channels. I'm excited about the opportunity to capture this expanding addressable market. What I can tell you after being here almost a year is this team has accomplished many things. Our revenue visibility has increased. Our access and routes to markets have grown. our bid volume is doubling. Our differentiated ability to train, equip, connect, support, renew, and modernize is enabling us to pursue and capture larger and more complex contracts, thus expanding our addressable market. We are unlocking value and are excited about the future for our shareholders, customers, and employees. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Sean for the review of the financials.

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Please turn to slide seven. We again are performing well, particularly in light of the overall market environment. We remain on track to achieve our commitments and are confident in the strength and resiliency of our business model that generates strong, predictable cash flow. Revenue in the first quarter was $1.02 billion. This reflects continued growth in the Pacific region. ramping of the WTRS program, and sunsetting of the previously discussed KC-10 and T1A programs. Adjusted EBITDA in the quarter was $67 million, delivering a margin of 6.6%. As we discussed previously, we expect revenue and adjusted EBITDA to be weighted approximately 45% in the first half and 55% in the second half of the year. Interest expense in the first quarter was $19.7 million. Cash interest expense was $18.2 million, improving $7.2 million, or 28% year over year, driven by our successful repricing activities, debt paydown, and cash generation. Net income for the quarter was $8.1 million, up from $1.1 million from the prior year. Adjusted net income was $31.5 million, First quarter EPS was 25 cents, improving 21 cents from the prior year. Adjusted EPS in the quarter was 98 cents, increasing approximately 9% from the prior year. An important attribute of our business is the ability to generate strong cash flow with low capital expenditure requirements. We continue to expect adjusted net cash provided by operating activities to be in the range of $150 million to $170 million for the year, representing over 100% adjusted net income conversion at the midpoint. During the quarter, adjusted net cash used by operating activities was $118.1 million, consistent with our expectations. Please turn to slide eight. During the quarter, we continued to demonstrate our steadfast commitment to increasing shareholder value by making further enhancements to our capital structure. Our strong fundamentals and consistent financial performance created a compelling opportunity to reprice and extend both our revolver and term loan A. The outcome was extremely positive, with the cost of debt on these facilities improving by over 50 basis points. This yields additional interest expense savings and cash flow on top of the benefits announced just last quarter with the successful term loan B repricing. From a liquidity perspective, we are in a strong and enviable position with approximately $170 million of cash on the balance sheet and a $500 million revolver that had a zero balance at the end of the quarter. The strength of our business is in its cash generation, and we remain focused on delivering strong, predictable cash flow that can be thoughtfully deployed to generate the best returns for shareholders. Please turn to slide nine. The trends and demand signals in our business remain positive, and we believe our strategy, visibility, and targeted growth opportunities will yield substantial value creation. As it relates to tariffs, we do not expect a noticeable financial impact from any tariffs that have been discussed thus far. Given our performance in the first quarter and current trends, the company is reaffirming guidance for 2025. At the midpoint, this reflects revenue of $4.4 billion. adjusted EBITDA of $313 million, adjusted EPS of $4.65, and over 100% net income conversion to cash. In summary, we are pleased with the performance across our business and the start of the year. Our teams continue to execute in a dynamic market, bringing the best of V2X to meet our customers' critical mission requirements. With that, we'd like to open the call to your questions. Operator?

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Conference Operator
Moderator

We will now begin the question and answer session. To ask a question, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing the keys. If at any time your question has been addressed and you would like to withdraw your question, please press star then two. At this time, we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.

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Andre Madrid
Analyst, BTIG

The first question comes from Andre Madrid with BTIG.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

Please go ahead.

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Andre Madrid
Analyst, BTIG

Yes, thank you. Good afternoon, everyone. You talk about the growth in the international portfolio, but can you maybe talk about international book to bill? Is that something you'd be willing to share?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

So, hey, Andre, good to hear from you. So, you know, we don't talk about the the book to bill, you know, by region, but I will give a little bit of color on what we're expecting as we go forward a bit. You know, when we think about, you know, where we are in the year, um, you know, we do have more concentration in expected awards that we will believe that we believe will contribute to the backlog in fixed price, uh, activities, which we're very encouraged by. You heard Jeremy talk in the prepared mark remarks around, um, you know, larger scale opportunities that we're pursuing. We're seeing those in the back half of the year predominantly and fixed price in nature. Jeremy, anything else?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

No, Andre, thank you for the question. I think it's a great question. And I think as I look at, you know, the pipeline and I look at what we have in terms of being awarded, as Sean said, you know, we're excited about getting stuff adjudicated, but we're also excited about that for which is in the pipeline, as I mentioned, of around the the five plus billion dollars of $1 billion plus awards that we're, you know, talking about. So I'm excited about the opportunity we have in front of us.

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Andre Madrid
Analyst, BTIG

Got it. Got it. And then I guess beyond, you know, deleveraging, I guess, what are the other capital deployment priorities that you guys are looking at as you continue to push forward with, you know, strong cash generation? And I guess on that point too, how have you been finding the M&A environment as of late?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I'll say this, Andre. We're always looking at optionality. Jeremy has said it repeatedly. The things that will return the greatest value to shareholders are our utmost priority. Relative to M&A, it's stuff that we're consistently looking at. We've never stopped. We won't You know, I don't want to get into specifics on the market itself. Jeremy, anything else?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

No, what I would say is we're exceptionally patient. I don't believe we're on a burning platform, but I do believe that we are in a position to look at optionality around what is going to create the greatest shareholder value. But again, I think in this market, I think patience is well served. And I think you'll see us look at optionality as we go out throughout this fiscal year.

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Andre Madrid
Analyst, BTIG

Could you give any color on what you guys might even be looking for if that were to be the approach?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

I think, you know, if you look back to when we talked about the wheel, obviously getting more balance in the wheel is something that we would look at as favorable to the shareholders and also to, you know, the markets we serve. But again, I think patience is probably best served at this point in time to see how the market is going to react to this administration and things that might or might not become available. But again, I think the best thing we can do for the shareholder at this point is try to create greater optionality around what we serve in terms of core markets. And that means creating greater balance in terms of how we serve that customer.

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Think about it from a complementary nature, perhaps, Andre, right? When we talk about the things that we do and do very, very well, it's training, equipping, deploying, modernization, and repair and refurbishment. So those are core capabilities that the company offers, and I think you'll see us stay true to what and who we are.

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Andre Madrid
Analyst, BTIG

Absolutely. Got it. Got it. Jeremy, Sean, thanks so much for the call, as always. Thank you, Andre.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

Our next question is from Peter Armand with Baird. Please go ahead.

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Peter Armand
Analyst, Baird

Yeah, thanks. Good afternoon, Jeremy, Sean, Mike. Nice results, way to start the year. Hey, just for clarification, what is left for recompetes for this year? I don't know if I heard you give a percentage at all.

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

We didn't. It's fairly modest. So we started it the year at right around 5%, Peter, and it's right around between 1% and 2% for the total year with re-competes to go.

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Peter Armand
Analyst, Baird

Great. Great. And then kind of related to what Andre asked around the foreign military sales opportunities, when you're looking, I guess, Jeremy, when you called out these kind of new top five new pursuits that are over kind of a billion dollars. Are any of those in that bucket on the international side?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yes, they are. And I think that, you know, between that and partnerships that we have opened up with other, you know, key partners in the industry, I'm excited about these new channels to market and excited about the opportunity they have for the company, because I think they are channels that have been historically underserved, but represent an opportunity for us as we go forward.

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Peter Armand
Analyst, Baird

Okay, great. And then just regarding, I guess, Sean, on the liquidity side, great progress there and congrats on the repricing and everything else. What's the expectations for kind of a target on debt reduction for this year?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, yeah, thanks. you know, we're very happy, obviously. We were below three. We said we would be to see that continue, of course, in the first quarter. Very encouraged. You know, we're comfortable between two and three. There's always going to be fluctuations to it. You know, the plan will obviously be, you know, at the end of the year, we'll be in better position. And I see it sequentially improving as we go throughout the year, you know, unless we have anything other to talk about, right? But from a Again, the normal cash flow cadence of the business will be back half-weighted, and that's the way we see it playing out right now, Peter.

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Peter Armand
Analyst, Baird

Terrific. And just lastly, on the extensions and everything else, that's great kind of visibility here for you guys. Just how are we thinking about kind of the, you know, when we think about the second half of the year, just, you know, this is the first time we're seeing a full year's VR. How has it affected your business so far?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

You know, I'd say from what we've seen, modest, right? So we have generally been, I won't say entirely immune, Peter, but by and large, CRs have not been perturbations for us. I will highlight, you know, one of the things we did see in the quarter, and it was modest and very temporary in nature, but we did see some disruption to some funding streams. You know, on two small programs, they very quickly restarted, you know, and got going. So there were a couple of perturbations, but it was not at all CR related. It was just changes in funding profiles, that sort of stuff.

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Peter Armand
Analyst, Baird

Appreciate the call, guys. Nice results. Thanks.

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Unidentified Speaker

Sure. Thank you, Peter. Thank you, Peter.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

The next question is from Trevor Walsh with Citizens JMP. Please go ahead. Great.

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Trevor Walsh
Analyst, Citizens JMP

Hey, Jen, thanks for taking the questions. Great to see all the wins kind of across the platform kind of that you laid out, Jeremy. But I did notice that the Air Force revenues were down pretty significantly year over year. I understand there's some sunsetting of programs. It's probably kind of messing with that a little bit or at least influencing that. Can you provide maybe a little bit of a normalized kind of growth rate absent those sensitive programs and then maybe just comment generally on how Air Force award activity was progressing in the quarter?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, let me, thanks for the question, Trevor. Let me give you a bit of a walk on the quarter specifically, consistent with what we've said before, right? So we had the ramp that happened in the quarter on the WTRS program, fairly modest. Again, what we've said before is that that will predominantly ramp in the second half of the year. So that was in the, you know, $10, $15-ish million range. We had a full quarter of the F5 that we've talked about before. That's in a comparable range. And then we had the sunsetting programs, again, consistent with what we said on KC-10 and T1A. And so that was the downward pressure that you saw there a little bit on the Air Force. But that's how it played out in the quarter. Nothing really inconsistent with what we talked about previously. There are ebbs and flows to things, as you rightly point out, that we see time to time periodically, but nothing that we think is inconsistent with what our expectations were.

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Unidentified Speaker

Great. Thanks, Sean.

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Trevor Walsh
Analyst, Citizens JMP

Maybe sticking with you, although Jeremy, feel free to jump in. Also great to hear that the log cap got extended out to 2030. Can you maybe just remind us kind of how much optionality you feel like you'll have given there's kind of a new, you know, five-year plus time horizon for kind of EBIT or just for earnings margin expansion around that contract specifically in those task orders? Or is this really as we think about kind of where you kind of can gain leverage more in the newer things that you're bringing on, those $1 billion plus contracts, et cetera, those kind of newer contracts that you can kind of optimize over time?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, if you think where Roger Mason and his team are spending their time, they're spending it on new awards. To have this type of re-compete holiday is, you know, it's a unique position to be in. And I feel very comfortable that what we're burning calories on are things that are going to drive additional top line growth. I look at it as an opportunity for the company to, like I said, through partnerships and through, you know, additional markets like foreign military sales to continue the growth trajectory of the company. So I'm very comfortable with what we're doing in the new market side under Roger's leadership.

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Unidentified Speaker

Awesome. Maybe one last quick one.

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Trevor Walsh
Analyst, Citizens JMP

For the tariff kind of impacts, I understand that it's kind of broadly speaking not necessarily an issue. Is there anything, and this is a smaller kind of piece of the business, but with your more product-focused type of efforts like GMR-1000 and those types of initiatives, any issues that you kind of foresee, I know they're small, but just around components or just the pieces of those hardware? kind of aspects, anything kind of coming on the radar from a tariff perspective there?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

We haven't seen anything. You know, we're doing constant surveillance, if you will, Trevor, to make sure that we're checking with the supply base and that sort of stuff. And given the nature of what those things are, you know, largely domestic sourcing. And so, you know, we're not seeing anything with those product-based activities.

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Unidentified Speaker

Yep. Makes sense. Great. Thanks all. Appreciate it. Great results.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

Thank you.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Thanks, Trevor.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

The next question is from Ken Herbert with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Ken Herbert
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Yeah. Hey, Jeremy. Hey, Sean and Mike. It sounds like bookings in the first quarter, obviously the extensions, water, some of the other stuff, not in the quarter. Was there anything else that maybe you were expecting to get in the first quarter in terms of bookings that might explain some of the book to bill in the quarter and where it ended up?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Actually, bookings playing out, let me give a little bit more color on it. We see it very much back half-weighted from a bookings profile standpoint for the total year. We're somewhat consistent with what we saw last year. We didn't necessarily see, you know, delays. We did see, well, I should say we're more hearing, Ken, on contracting officers, administrative kind of processing of things, that sort of stuff, but we didn't see it result in necessarily changes to expected order intake.

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Ken Herbert
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, okay, that's helpful. And your 45-25 sort of first half, second half dynamic implies a relatively soft second quarter in sales with then a pretty big uptick, sort of high single-digit growth in the back half. And I think it's pretty consistent seasonally with what you've talked about and obviously some of your awards. But just want to see if there was anything in particular in the second quarter we should keep in mind or that you'd call out that might drive a little bit more weakness, but then also – beyond what you've outlined already in terms of second half strength, anything else in particular that you would say to really help with confidence on that second half ramp?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, let me provide some clarity on the split. So on the revenue side, Ken, you know, and you might say we're splitting hairs here a little bit, but it's probably slightly, you know, it might be closer to 46% on the revenue side and 45% on the profit side. in the first half. It's not perfect, of course. There's always timing of material receipts and things of that nature. We saw some of that happen in the end of the first quarter. So nothing that's material in nature. And like I said, maybe 46-ish type percent for first half revenue.

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Ken Herbert
Analyst, RBC Capital Markets

Okay, that's perfect, Sean, thanks. And I guess the second half ramp, I mean, obviously, you've called out your, you know, between Waters and other programs, you feel pretty good about that, I guess.

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

We do, and, you know, again, consistent with what we said, and I'll give a little bit of color, the WTRS program will ramp really beginning in that July timeframe. when transition is complete. That's to say we're doing some activities today. Obviously you heard me talk about some of the Q1 numbers, but the ramp was really back half weighted and we'll get a good second half on that. And then we'll have the F5, right? So we're executing F5, transition was completed late last year, team's done a wonderful job. And you know, from a comp standpoint in the back half of the year, we didn't have that previously. And then again, the KC-10 and T1A headwinds. So nothing that we've seen in the first quarter outside that is causing any perturbations or difference to what we would expect with that ramp.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Perfect. Thanks, Sean. Appreciate the cover.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

Thanks, Ken. The next question is from Jason Gursky with Citigroup. Please go ahead.

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Jason Gursky
Analyst, Citigroup

Hey, good afternoon, everybody. A few questions here. First, can you talk a little bit about any exposure that you might have to GSA buying kind of writ large and whether you're seeing a push to move any of the work that you're currently doing more into the purview of the GSA?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Not that we're seeing. I mean, again, most of our work in the O&M world is well-funded, it's part of the priorities of this administration, and in terms of readiness. So I don't see anything today.

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Jason Gursky
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay. Fair enough. Thanks. And then there's been a bit of a push here by the administration through executive order in particular to go through a bit of a reform process on FAR federal acquisition regulation. I'm just kind of curious what impacts you think this effort might have to the industrial base writ large and to the company here specifically.

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

I think it's very early in the play to determine how they're going to go about doing that. Obviously, we're listening like everybody else is in the industry. But again, I think it's very early. you know, to try to draw a conclusion as to where they're going to go with that.

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Jason Gursky
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay. Great. And then lastly, I guess, the budget, you know, was released on Friday last week of the skinny budget with some top line numbers in it. Not a lot of programmatic stuff, but clearly some indications about, you know, spending priorities going forward. You know, the $106 $113 of the $119 billion plus up for national security spending. Looks like it's going to be spread across five different buckets, Golden Dome, shipbuilding, nuclear deterrence, space domain, and protecting the border. Wondering if you wouldn't just spend a few minutes talking through, you know, the capabilities set at the company and how it kind of lines up with those five buckets. spending priorities that the administration would like to focus on here going forward?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks. I think the administration has been very clear about their priority around readiness. And when I look at what we do, and Sean had highlighted earlier, with regards to training the warfighter, equipping the warfighter, supporting the warfighter, and renewing and refreshing that equipment as it's required, I think those are all things that fit very well with this administration's priorities. Again, I know they gave some top line, you know, items that they were interested in. But again, if you look at where we are supporting the warfighter, I think they align very well with this administration's priorities.

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I think there's also the geography base, right? We've talked about where we are around the globe and how those enduring missions sustain. And, you know, I think we're extremely well positioned. One of the things that's exciting if we think about, you know, some of our journey here, since the WTRS award last year, when we brought the breadth of the entirety of the company together, and you heard Jeremy talk about this, we're seeing that take root in a number of different areas in various geographies around the globe. So in terms of exactly as Jeremy said, administration priorities, as well as geography, we think we're exceptionally well positioned to continue to be, you know, successful.

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

And I think it shows itself, honestly, Jason, with regards to the growth we saw in Indopaycom. You know, I think the administration priorities in terms of that theater, we are well positioned to support the administration in their efforts to fulfill their administration priorities.

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Jason Gursky
Analyst, Citigroup

Okay, great. Thanks, everybody. Appreciate it.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

Thanks, Jason. The next question is from Toby Summer with Truist. Please go ahead.

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Toby Summer
Analyst, Truist

Thanks. From a cadence perspective, could you give us a little bit more color on the principal drivers of the better year-over-year growth in the back half of the year? I just kind of want to understand the the upside and downside risks to the pipeline at that period?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sure. In the back half of this year, it's, you know, and I think I said this before, and again, nothing's changed in the first quarter. So I think for the total year, we expect WTRS to contribute an incremental, call it 125 million or so, and that is predominantly back half weighted. And then the second half of the year, we get a full two quarters of the F5 and think of that as $50 million. So those are really some of that growth in the back half of the year. There's obviously other things that are coming on, and the team's doing a wonderful job of continuing to grow in a variety of areas, but that's a lot of the back half of the year growth.

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Toby Summer
Analyst, Truist

Thank you. And with respect to your international opportunities, have the last couple months with a lot of new decisions coming out of Washington, has that enhanced the opportunity or detracted from it?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

I don't think it's changed it. I think the team that's doing that work for us has seen persistent demand. Granted, they take time. They're not as clean as some of the RFPs coming out of the U.S. government in terms of time schedules, so they do take time. But we've not seen any change in the demand pool from the international markets. And the team that's doing that is doing an exceptional job in terms of serving those customers on a global basis.

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Toby Summer
Analyst, Truist

Appreciate that. Last one for me. With the deleveraging that has occurred and the repricing of debt sort of up and down the stack, are you at a juncture now where you would, in addition to potentially delevering, look at deploying capital towards acquisitions?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I think, you know, I think I said it earlier. We are continually looking at optionality. And so, again, the team's done a wonderful job delevering, as you point out, Toby. And, you know, we'll look at those things consistently. It could be buybacks. It could be M&A. It could be investing in ourselves, right, in other things. Um, those are, those are top of mind consistently. And, uh, you know, I'm encouraged the leverage ratio at 2.98, uh, did exactly what we said we were going to go do. Um, you know, we think it'll continue to, uh, to decline sequentially as we go throughout the year. And, uh, I think we're encouraged by the opportunity set that's in front of us in, in those areas. Jeremy, anything else to?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Oh, I just, I think Sean's right. I think patience, uh, is, is what is awarded right now. And we will look at the optionality that is created by the work the team's done to bring the leverage ratio down. But again, I think patience in terms of how do we build shareholder value is front of mind.

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Unidentified Speaker

Thank you very much. Thanks, Toby.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

The next question is from Joe Gomes with Noble Capital. Please go ahead.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Good afternoon. Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Hey, assuming I did my math correctly here, it looks like gross margin was about 75 basis points in the quarter. Just wondering what was the driver for that?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Sorry, say that again, Joe. I didn't hear you.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

It looks like gross margin, or what I would call the gross margin for the company, was up about 75 basis points in the quarter. Just wondering what was the drivers behind that?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I think it's just some timing of some of the expenses that we had in the quarter versus prior year, but nothing of note that is causing us any either concern or anything other than what we had planned.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Okay. And then one of the things that has been a benefit for the company historically is some of the exercises that have been done in the Indopay Commons. Wondering, you know, are any of those significantly, are any significant exercises scheduled for this year and when you would expect to see those occur?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

We're doing some today. I will say, you know, so you're exactly right. This is an odd year, an odd-numbered year, and therefore those initiatives and activities take place. We have been tasked with very modest support today. You know, we'll see if having a budget and getting some additional clarity changes that. But, you know, right now we're often executing some of those activities in the region, you know, between now and call it the end of the summer type of timeframe.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Okay. And then one more question. And I know you've talked about you're expecting the second half to be bigger than the first half. And we are under that, we'll call it the full year CR. But kind of just through the year to date, how have you seen the pace of awards so far? And are you starting to see any pickup here as maybe we get some little more clarity on budgeting here?

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

I think we saw the awards in the first quarter pretty consistent with what we expected. So we're very encouraged that the awards will stay on schedule. I think Sean referenced some of the contracting officers having elected to take the offer has created some interesting items in terms of funding profiles. But in terms of awards, we're very excited about the fact the pace stayed on what we thought it would be in the first quarter. And we're excited to get the Ascension Island program up and running.

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, to amplify that, Joe, we've seen, albeit modest, occasionally, and more than previously, perhaps, some changes in funding. And just for clarity, sometimes we get funded monthly. Sometimes we get funded annually, right? Every contract is different. And so changes in personnel, changes in funding streams, whatever, can cause some perturbations. That did play out, albeit modest, you know, in the quarter. And, you know, we don't expect anything of material issues or anything going forward.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Great. Thanks for that. Appreciate it.

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Conference Operator
Moderator

Sure. Our next question is from Christine Lewag with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

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Justin (on behalf of Christine Lewag)
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Hey, this is Justin on for Christine. Thanks for taking the question. Just on the revenue by region, it looked like Middle East revenue was down a little bit this quarter after some pretty nice growth over the past few quarters. So just wondering if anything discreet to call out there, or maybe it's just tougher comps, or if anything's related to some of the sunsetting programs you called out, any color that would be helpful.

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

There's some mission support activities that we do you know, have done on a consistent basis, if you will. There's some timing associated with those things. The volume of activities in that region, you're absolutely right, was down from what we had done before. I think you said it probably better than I. There are some tough comps from a prior year standpoint. You know, we're nothing outside of what we had planned, you know, is what we saw in the quarter. I do think the year over year in the Middle East, you know, could be down slightly. But again, this team does a wonderful job to respond at a moment's notice to our customers' needs. This team did that last year. Will that continue at the same pace? Hard exactly to say. Everything that we've talked about has contemplated it, so nothing unusual.

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Justin (on behalf of Christine Lewag)
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. That's helpful. And then maybe just quickly circling back to earlier questions around booking trends. It sounds like you have a lot of exciting opportunities coming in the back half here. You're also expecting some nice revenue acceleration. So I guess, Ned, are you expecting book to bill to be sort of above one for the full year?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I'll say it this way, Justin. From a net booking standpoint, we expect to add to our backlog. It's back half-weighted. as I said, and I'll put some other finer points on it just to give color to folks. You know, think of the first half from a net bookings order intake standpoint, you know, 30 to 40% of what we would expect in the total year. And then much, you know, obviously much more in the back half, more fixed price in nature and more domestic. Some of that is consistent with the awards that we've already talked about that are not necessarily in backlog. So obviously we expect to end the year with a creative backlog.

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Joe Gomes
Analyst, Noble Capital

Okay, great. Super helpful. Thank you. Great.

speaker
Conference Operator
Moderator

The next question is from Noah Poppenack with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

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Noah Poppenack
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Hey, good evening, everyone. I wonder if we could spend another minute. Hey, hey, thanks a lot for the time. I wonder if you could just spend another minute on cash flow, just given the use in 1Q. I know it's seasonally usually a use, but it looks larger than it's been in the past. Can you just give us a little more detail on what drove that and how the cadence shakes out through the rest of the year and what full-year free cash to net income conversion you're looking for?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, so the... adjusted net income to cash conversion in excess of 100% for the total year, absolutely back half-weighted, consistent with what we have. We were, if you look year over year, we were slightly down, right? I think we consumed about 83 million last year. About 118 million. It was absolutely in line with what we expected. A little bit more working capital usage. Nothing that causes us concern at this point. I would say, you know, we expect to be positive in every subsequent quarter and build throughout the year. So, you know, I think we're in good shape. I would tell you that we saw some very good collections after the quarter closed. And so, you know, nothing that's sticking out as being anything other than what we had planned.

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Noah Poppenack
Analyst, Goldman Sachs

Okay, so maybe just some working capital timing late in the quarter. Precisely. Precisely. Excellent. And then I wanted to ask just, you know, with a framework for a year that's a little back-end loaded in a backdrop where, funds seem to be flowing a little slower. Is there anything in the back half that you see as risk of sliding into the early part of 26? And then I also just wanted to ask, as Waters ramps up, what does the early margin profile look like on that program as we try to map out the margin ramp in addition to the revenue ramp?

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Shah Mural
Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, I'll start with the last part first, and then Jeremy, you can add color on the total year. So relative to Waters, our margins are accretive to when Waters comes online in the second half of the year, they will be accretive to where the company composite is. Today, that is not necessarily the case, Noah, and it's because of the types of stuff that we're procuring and things of that nature as we get ready to kind of ramp up. But it'll be, like I said, accretive to the company's composite in the back half of the year. If I were to look at our total margin, depending on how the growth exactly plays out, you You know, it's a few basis points to the company's composite cost plus margin performance.

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Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

And I'll address the award side. When I look at where we are in terms of the enviable nature of the, you know, recompute holiday that we're experiencing, and I look at the bid volume that Roger and his team are putting out in terms of being 50% more than last year, provided they stay on schedule, which today, if you looked at first quarter, you look at the awards, We have been on schedule with regards to what we thought they were going to award. I'm very excited about the opportunity as we look forward to, you know, capture the stuff that we bid and also the stuff that we're going to bid. So, again, I've not seen any perturbations to date. But, again, I think the work that the team is doing is exceptional. And we're taking advantage of the opportunities we have in terms of partnerships, foreign military sales, and also domestic sales as well.

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Andre Madrid
Analyst, BTIG

Okay. Thank you so much. Thanks, Noah.

speaker
Conference Operator
Moderator

Thank you. This concludes our question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mr. Jeremy Wensinger, CEO, for any closing remarks.

speaker
Jeremy Wensinger
President and Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, everyone, for joining today. I really appreciate you taking the time to join us on this first quarter call. The team has done an exceptional job. I'm excited about the opportunity we have in front of us. And I think you'll see these results manifest itself over the next several quarters. So thank you again for joining the call and have a great day. Thanks.

speaker
Conference Operator
Moderator

The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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