Western Midstream Partners, LP

Good afternoon. My name is Joanna and I will be your conference operator today. At this time I would like to welcome everyone to the Western Midstream Partners fourth quarter and full year 2024 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press start followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star followed by the number two. Thank you. I would now like to turn the conference over to Daniel Jenkins, director of Invest Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you. I'm glad you could join us today for Western Midstream's fourth quarter 2024 conference call. I'd like to remind you that today's call, the accompanying slide deck, last night's earnings releases contain important disclosures regarding forward-looking statements and non-GAAP conciliations. Please reference Western Midstream's most recent form 10-K and other public filings for a description of risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from what we discussed today. Relevant reference materials are posted on our website. I'm pleased to inform you that the Western Midstream Partners K-1 will be available via our website beginning Friday, March 7th. Hard copies will be mailed out the following week. With me today are Oscar Brown, our chief executive officer, Danny Holderman, our chief operating officer, Kristen Schultz, our chief financial officer, and John Vandenbrand, our SVP of commercial. I will now turn the call over to Oscar.

Thank you, Daniel, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we discuss our fourth quarter in full year 2024 operational and financial results, I'm excited to announce a large expansion of our produce water gathering and disposal infrastructure in the Delaware basin that support continued upstream development over the long term. West sanctioned the Pathfinder Pipeline, a 30-inch long-haul pipeline that will be able to transport over 800,000 barrels a day of produce water to our existing and -be-constructed facilities in eastern Loving County. This midstream project is anchored by a new long-term produce water agreement with Occidental Petroleum to provide up to 280,000 barrels per day of firm gathering and transportation capacity and up to 220,000 barrels per day of firm disposal capacity supported by corresponding minimum volume commitments. I am also pleased to announce that we have executed amendments to our legacy produce water agreements with OXIE in the Delaware basin. These new amendments retain the cost of service and fixed fee components of the original agreements and better support our customers' long-term development plans. We will continue to provide our largest customer with excellent customer service and firm flow assurance in exchange for a -half-year extension to the original produce water gathering agreement in the Delaware basin. These agreements demonstrate the continued strength of our relationship with OXIE and further provide support for sustainable distribution growth over the coming years. As operators within the Permian basin are well aware, oil and gas production generates a tremendous amount of produce water and managing it presents significant challenges to the long-term development of the basin. Wes is excited to provide an innovative midstream solution via the Pathfinder pipeline that will facilitate the transportation of produce water away from areas experiencing high-intensity water disposal to more strategic areas with excess pore space that can handle responsible, rateable water disposal over the long term in eastern Loving County. This solution provides us with a platform asset that will enhance our customers' long-term flow assurance and create new optionality as the basin matures over time. Pathfinder will enhance our existing water assets, de-risk our crude oil and natural gas businesses, ensure we are attractively positioned to take on growth opportunities as produced water volumes continue to grow in line with all of our development activities. Kristen and John will provide more details on our expansion plan shortly. However, I would like to stress that this project advances our strategy of prioritizing capital-efficient organic growth that ultimately generates strong returns for Wes unit holders and is in line with our continued focus of sustaining and growing the base distribution over time. Now turning to our 2024 operational and financial results, Wes had another very successful and pivotal year which includes the following achievements. Double-digit and record throughput growth across all three product lines, the commencement of operations at Mentone Train 3 in March 2024, the successful integration of Meritage Midstream and the completion of several non-core asset sales for $795 million of total consideration, the announcement of numerous commercial agreements in our core operating basins, and annual adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow growth of 13% and 37% respectively. We also continued to execute on our capital allocation framework which included paying out a total of $1.246 billion in base distributions. This record distribution payout included a 52% increase to the base distribution that commenced in the first quarter of 2024 and is 41% higher than pre-COVID levels. Wes now has the highest distribution yield amongst midstream company peers and relative to investment grade companies in the Russell 3000. Additionally, we will now be targeting a long-term annual distribution percentage growth rate of mid to low single digits which excludes potential increases in conjunction with future large organic growth projects or acquisitions. Furthermore, we achieved our year-end 2024 leverage threshold of approximately three times earlier than initially anticipated which puts our sheet in great position to continue pursuing organic growth opportunities and a creative bolt on acquisitions. And finally, we are increasing our focus on productivity and efficiency to further improve our cost structure which will better serve our customers, improving our competitiveness, and thus increasing our chances of winning more commercial business and sanctioning more attractive organic growth projects such as Pathfinder. With that, I will turn the call over to our Chief Operating Officer, Danny Holderman, to discuss our operational performance in the fourth quarter.

Thank you, Oscar, and good afternoon, everyone. Our fourth quarter natural gas throughput increased by 4% on a sequential quarter basis as a result of strong growth from both the DJ and Delaware Basin. This performance resulted in our eighth consecutive quarter of record natural gas throughput in the Delaware Basin and we achieved our highest throughput levels in the DJ Basin since becoming a standalone partnership. Our fourth quarter crude oil, NGL's, throughput increased by 6% on a sequential quarter basis primarily due to strong customer activity levels in both the DJ and Delaware Basin. Our produced water experienced record throughput increasing 8% on a sequential quarter basis due to strong producer activity levels and fewer volumes used for recycling purposes. Our fourth quarter per MCF adjusted gross margin for our natural gas assets remained unchanged compared to the prior quarter and in line with our prior expectations. Going forward, we expect our first quarter per MCF adjusted gross margin to be in line with the fourth quarter. Our fourth quarter per barrel adjusted gross margin for our crude oil, NGL's, assets increased by 12 cents compared to the prior quarter primarily due to a favorable revenue recognition cumulative adjustment recorded in the fourth quarter associated with higher cost of service rates at our DJ Basin oil system and the timing of distribution payments associated with our equity investment. We expect our first quarter per barrel adjusted gross margin to be in line with the fourth quarter. Our fourth quarter per barrel adjusted gross margin for our produced water assets remained unchanged compared to the prior quarter and in line with our prior expectations. We expect our first quarter per barrel adjusted gross margin to decrease slightly compared to the fourth quarter due to the new produced water amendment with OXIE and the cost of service rate redetermination, both of which became effective on January 1st. Turning to our full year results, average throughput across all three products increased by double digits year over year, adjusting for the sale of several non-core assets that closed in the first half of the year. For full year 2024, natural gas throughput averaged 5.1 billion cubic feet per day. This represents a 16% year over year increase, which excludes an average of approximately 38 million cubic feet per day and 120 million cubic feet per day of throughput in 2024 and 2023, respectively, associated with a sale of our merciless assets that closed early in the second quarter of 2024. Full year 2024 crude oil and NGL's throughput averaged 530,000 barrels per day. This represents a 12% year over year increase, which excludes an average of approximately 23,000 barrels per day and 200,000 barrels per day of throughput in 2024 and 2023, respectively, associated with the sale of several equity investment assets that all closed late in the first quarter. Full year 2024 produced water throughput averaged 1.1 million barrels per day, an increase of 11% compared to full year 2023. Turning our attention to 2025, we expect our portfolio-wide average year over year throughput to increase by mid single digits percentage growth for both natural gas and produced water and low single digits percentage growth for crude oil and NGL. Keep in mind our throughput expectations exclude the volumes associated with the non-core asset sales that closed in early 2024 for year over year comparative purposes. In the Delaware basin, we expect average year over year throughput to increase modestly for all three product lines and for the basin to continue being the main engine of throughput growth in 2025, primarily due to continued strong producer activity levels and a steady number of wells expected to come online throughout the year. As we have seen across the basin, several of our producers have been able to capitalize on operational and drilling efficiencies that enable them to complete more wells with fewer rigs. In the D.J. basin, we expect average year over year throughput to remain flat for natural gas and to be flat to slightly down for crude oil and NGLs based on current customer forecasts. In 2024, the basin benefited from a full year's worth of increased rig activity that commenced in 2023 and increased on-load activity. As of our latest forecast, we expect the overall number of wells that come to market to decrease year over year, but we forecast that natural gas volumes will be supported by steady on-load activity from Phillips 66 and additional wells that come to market from certain third-party customers. In the Powder River basin, we expect average year over year throughput for both natural gas and crude oil and NGLs to increase slightly based on current producer forecasts. We expect our natural gas throughput to benefit from increased customer activity levels, which will be partially offset by the expected loss of on-load volumes as other processing facilities in the basin come back online in the second half of 2025. We expect our crude oil and NGLs volumes to increase slightly, primarily due to increased activity levels and producers targeting reservoirs with higher liquids content. Furthermore, our most active customers continue to allocate capital to the Powder River basin, and as we exited 2024, about 60 percent of the active rig in the basin was operating on acreage that we service. In 2025, in response to our customers' drilling plans, we plan to allocate approximately 30 percent of our total capital expenditure budget to the basin for additional gathering and compression facilities, which should benefit WES in 2026 and beyond. As a result of this increased investment, we now expect natural gas throughput to grow by a mid-teens average percentage growth rate in 2026 relative to 2025. Finally, we expect meaningful natural gas throughput growth from our other assets, specifically in Utah, to commence during the second half of 2025, driven by increased volumes from the Williams Mountain West pipeline expansion and the tie-in of Kinder Morgan's Altamont pipeline and Dorchapeda Natural Gas Processing Plant early in the third quarter. With that, I will turn the call over to Kristin to discuss our financial performance during the quarter.

Thank you, Danny, and good afternoon, everyone. During the fourth quarter, we generated net income attributable to limited partners of $326 million and adjusted EBITDA of $591 million. Relative to the third quarter, our adjusted growth margin increased by $41 million, which was primarily driven by increased throughput from the DJ and Delaware basins. The increase also included the recording of $9.2 million of favorable revenue recognition, cumulative adjustments associated with redetermined cost of service rates, uncertain contracts associated with our assets in South Texas and our DJ basin oil system. Our operation and maintenance expense remained flat sequentially due to lower maintenance and repair expenses, offset by higher field level personnel costs, increased utility costs, and higher surface use land fees related to our produced water business. Going forward, we anticipate a slight sequential quarter decrease in our operation and maintenance expense, consistent with historical trends where the first quarter typically sees the lowest operation and maintenance expense of the year. Our general and administrative expense increased sequentially, primarily due to costs associated with a one-time true-up of the annual bonus accrual. Going forward, we would expect our general and administrative expense to revert back towards prior quarter levels. Turning to cash flow, our fourth quarter cash flow from operating activities totalled $554 million, generating free cash flow of $309 million. Free cash flow after our third quarter 2024 distribution payment in November was a use of cash of approximately $32 million. In January, we declared a base distribution of .87.5 per unit, which was unchanged relative to our prior quarter distribution paid in November and was paid on February 14th to unit holders of record on February 3rd. Turning to our full year results, we recorded $1.54 billion of net income attributable to limited partners generating $2.34 billion of adjusted EBITDA, exceeding the midpoint of our 2024 adjusted EBITDA guidance range of $2.2 billion to $2.4 billion. Our adjusted EBITDA performance was primarily driven by increased throughput from all three products in the Delaware Basin, increased throughput from the DJ Basin, and a full year of volume contribution in the River Basin from the Meritage Acquisition. This growth positioned us to deliver another year of strong operating cash flow, which totaled approximately $2.14 billion in 2024. Our capital expenditures totaled $790 million in 2024, within our 2024 guidance range of $700 million to $850 million, and consisted of capital largely associated with the construction of the North Leving Natural Gas Processing Plant and other projects to support the growing needs of our customers in the Delaware Basin. We also began investing capital associated with the new commercial agreements we announced in the second quarter pertaining to our DJ Basin and Utah assets. Our free cash flow generation totaled $1.32 billion in 2024, exceeding the high end of our guidance range of $1.05 to $1.25 billion. Finally, Wes declared base distributions that totaled $3.50 per unit for 2024, including our recent fourth quarter base distribution of .87.50 per unit. Base distributions paid within the calendar year 2024 were in line with our full year base distribution guidance of $3.20 per unit. Turning to our 2025 financial guidance, we expect our adjusted EBITDA to range between $2.35 billion to $2.55 billion for the year, implying a midpoint of $2.45 billion, which represents growth of approximately 5% year over year at the midpoint. We expect that the Delaware Basin will remain our largest contributor at 55%, while the DJ Basin and the Powder River Basin are expected to contribute 30% and 6%, respectively, of our overall adjusted EBITDA. We expect our 2025 capital expenditures to range between $625 million and $775 million, implying a midpoint of $700 million. This includes approximately $65 million of the capital associated with yesterday's Pathfinder Pipeline and Produce Water System expansion announcement. The remaining capital will primarily be spent on the completion of the North Loving Natural Gas Processing Plant and system expansion opportunities to support our continued commercial success with both new and DJ and Powder River Basins, as Danny previously mentioned. In addition, we have begun commissioning the North Loving Natural Gas Processing Plant and expect to begin benefiting financially from it as we exit the first quarter of 2025. The completion of North Loving enables us to remain one of the top five largest natural gas processors in the Delaware Basin, and we expect our asset base to continue growing as approximately half of our estimated 2025 capital expenditure budget will allocated towards the Delaware Basin. We expect to generate free cash flow between $1.275 billion to $1.475 billion in 2025, implying a midpoint of $1.375 billion, which includes the impact of yesterday's Produce Water System expansion announcement and represents growth of 4% -over-year at the midpoint. Turning to the distribution, we intend to recommend a base distribution increase of $0.75 per unit starting with our first quarter distribution paid in May, and as such, we're guiding to a full year distribution of at least $3.60 per unit, which includes distributions to be paid within calendar year 2025. This represents a 4% increase compared to our prior quarterly distribution of $0.875 and a 13% increase compared to our prior year's annual distribution of $3.20 per unit. Going forward, as Oscar previously mentioned, we'll be targeting a mid to low single digits annual percentage distribution growth rate, which will be supported by growth in the underlying business and incremental free cash flow generation. Additionally, given yesterday's organic growth project announcement and the capital and time required to complete these projects, management and the board of directors have decided to not pay an enhanced distribution in 2025. Furthermore, we have made the decision to retire the enhanced distribution concept to further simplify our capital allocation framework and focus on sustainable base distribution growth. Going forward, our capital allocation strategy will prioritize organic growth projects and synergistic bolt-on acquisitions that will provide the support to increase the base distribution at a mid to low single digits annual percentage growth rate. As we are successful completing bigger organic growth projects and consummating acquisitions in future, we may recommend additional distribution increases in excess of our target growth rate. We believe these decisions better position West to grow and return incremental capital to unit holders while maintaining its strong investment grade balance sheet. I will now turn the call over to John Vandebrandt to provide more details on yesterday's organic growth project announcement.

Thank you, Kristin. I'm excited to provide you more details about the announcement of the Pathfinder Pipeline that will support the long-term development plans of our customers in the Delaware Basin. First, we will be constructing the Pathfinder Pipeline which will consist of over 40 miles of polyline steel capable of transporting more than 800,000 barrels of produced water per day before any expansions. Additionally, we will also develop a series of facilities that will aggregate water off of our existing produced water gathering and disposal system and ensure it is delivered onto Pathfinder pursuant to our customers' commitments. Finally, we will also build nine additional SWD facilities in Eastern Loving County located in areas away from high-intensity water disposal. These wells will provide us with disposal capacity located in areas where we can focus on accessing strategic bore space in a responsible and routable manner on a long-term basis. We are excited that these developments are anchored by a new long-term agreement and corresponding minimum commitments with OXIE. By working together, we are de-risking their and our long-term development plans. Given our unique position as the only true large-scale gathering and processing operator that provides midstream solutions at scale and across natural gas, crude oil, and produced water, we understand the importance of providing real flow assurance to our customers for all of their production streams. With that in mind, we are also strategically sizing and positioning this infrastructure to allow us to work with all of our producers in the Delaware basin, including those in both New Mexico and in Texas. This midstream infrastructure is also supported by alignment and partnerships with strategic landowners to ensure that we protect mineral interests, unlock access to bore space, and protect that bore space through responsible development. This alignment will be critical going forward and we plan to continue to leverage these relationships and expand on some of existing agreements to provide even more optionality for our customers over time. We will continue to leverage our producer-centric mindset and deep subsurface and technical expertise to design, operate, and build produced water infrastructure that is designed to mitigate seismicity and subsurface pressure challenges. Ever since we began building out our produced water assets close to a decade ago, we have been focused on addressing these challenges and we are working on a new innovative midstream solution to better facilitate the long-haul dispersion and disposal of produced water. As we move forward, Pathfinder will allow us to evaluate further expansions to aggregate and transport more volumes to new areas, to provide consistent flows of produced water for potential recycling to upstream customers, and to evaluate alternative solutions and technologies to disposal that can further help us to manage the substantial growth of volumes that we expect to continue in the Delaware basin over the coming years. This project aligns with our strategy to allocate capital towards organic growth opportunities that yield our targeted mid-teens rate of return over the life of the project. As we work to attract more volumes to the pipeline, not only do we anticipate that the return profile will be greatly enhanced, but we also believe that this platform will open up other opportunities to deploy capital on an appropriate risk adjusted basis. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Oscar for some closing comments.

Thanks, John. As we enter 2025, West stands poised for growth, driven by strategic positioning and a history of strong operational and financial performance. The partnership's success stems from years of dedicated effort, which has resulted in the formation of robust partnerships with a diversified group of producing customers that presents opportunities for potential expansion. These efforts have included investing in people and technologies to establish West as a midstream partnership. The focus on debt reduction and driving leverage down from approximately 4.6 times in 2019 to just under three times today. Focusing on strong free cash flow generation, which has helped increase the base distribution 46% above pre-pandemic levels when taking into account the 4% increase we intend to recommend to the board for the first quarter of 2025. And growing throughput materially across all three product lines by generating incremental business from existing customers and attracting new customers onto our system. While our first five years as a standalone enterprise can be characterized as a period of building out our internal infrastructure and deleveraging, we expect that the next five years will be characterized as a period of growth and additional success. Now that we have constructed two new natural gas processing plants, greatly increased our presence in the Powder River Basin and substantially delevered our balance sheet, we are well positioned to utilize our strong asset base and balance sheet to capitalize on incremental organic and inorganic growth opportunities. By successfully partnering with Occidental and third-party customers, we have grown our throughput meaningfully over the last five years. The Pathfinder Pipeline Project anchored by OXIE coupled with the recently announced contract extension for produced water, as well as the agreement for a 10-year extension to certain minimum volume commitments in the DJ basin, demonstrate the strength of a relationship with OXIE and our ability to consummate new agreements that benefit both parties. We look forward to further enhancing our relationship with OXIE and collaborating on new opportunities for growth as they continue to execute their development programs in multiple basins over coming years. We will also continue to provide this level of focus and creativity for all our producing customers in order to support their throughput growth objectives. 2025 is shaping up to be a year of strategic investment in organic growth projects for WES and we expect to grow throughput and profitability at a meaningful rate this year. Our assets are located in the heart of some of the most active basins with the best economics and WES continues to be supported by stable long-term contracts that are backed by minimum volume commitments. Our customers continue to allocate capital to the basins we serve resulting in steady throughput growth which should be greatly enhanced once we bring our recently announced organic growth projects online. The investments we are making today will ultimately drive increased profitability and free cash flow generation which will further support sustainable distribution growth and generate leading unit holder returns Before I turn the call over for Q&A, some of you surely noticed John Vandebrand join the call today to discuss Pathfinder rather than Bob Bourne. Bob will be retiring from WES next week after nearly 45 years in the energy industry including five glorious years here at Western Midstream. He's been a huge contributor to our leadership team and the growth of the partnership over this time and we wish him the very best. Don is stepping into the role of SVP Commercial having spent 13 years with WES and its predecessor companies and will lead our partnership-wide commercial efforts. We also wish John the very best as we are expecting great things from him and his team as the primary growth engine of the partnership. I also would like to thank the entire WES workforce for all of their continued hard work and dedication to our partnership which enabled us to achieve landmark accomplishments in 2024. I look forward to seeing what we can achieve in 2025 and updating our stakeholders on our progress toward our goals on our first quarter call in May. With that we will open the line for questions.

Thank you. At this time I would like to remind everyone in order to ask a question press star then the number one on your telephone keypad. We'll pause for just a moment to compile the Q&A roster.

Your first question comes from the line of Spiro

Donis at Citi. Your line is now open.

Hey, operator. Afternoon, everybody. I want to start maybe with the growth outlook. You sort of changed your capital allocation framework a bit here and introduced this new target for distribution growth at low to mid single digits. Kristen, it sounds like your comments suggest that should kind of more or less mirror here but even a growth going forward. So keep our question here curious. Maybe how did you come up with that amount and why that's the right amount going forward? And as you think about the capital spending necessary to

drive that growth, what kind of levels are you thinking about there?

So we obviously

do quite a bit of forecasting and planning going out pretty far and looked at to your point Spiro what we expected growth capital to be, what that would do to EBITDA, and then what we felt was a sustainable based distribution growth level that we could continue to support into the future. So after going through that, that's how we came up with the mid to low single digit distribution growth there. From a growth capex perspective, we've historically said if you go back to our 2022 capital spend that we had in that year, that would be something that would keep us relatively flat to a little bit up from a growth perspective. I think what we're seeing right now from a pipeline perspective both in the EBITDA and in the EBITDA B with the introduction of Pathfinder are quite a few organic growth projects that we've got. And so I'd expect for a little bit of time now to have incremental capital that's spent to bring these projects to fruition. Capital specifically related to Pathfinder, we talked in the script about it being 400 to 450 million spending 65 million this year, and so there'll be quite a bit of organic growth capital for next year to get that pipeline constructed. And then PRB is around 200 million of our capital spend for 2025. Obviously as we get into 2026, we'll have to take a look at how the basin continues to do from a growth perspective, but we're very optimistic about the future in the PRB as well.

Got it. Got it. Very

helpful. Second one, we're just going to Pathfinder. Pretty big gap between the sort of size of the pipeline at 800,000 a day versus the initial contract from Oxy. So I guess curious on a few fronts here. One is that initial contract from Oxy effectively underwriting that entire 800. And as you think about filling up that base, what does that do to the return multiple over time? And do you expect to kind of do that by 27 or 28, or could that take a little more time?

Hey, great question. This is John. I think there's a couple of things to think about,

right? Not all of the capital is going to be spent on that transportation pipeline that we're upgrading. A lot of it is also to connect the systems together to the existing system we have, and also to build up some additional disposal capacity on the eastern side of Loving. But when you do look at it, that most efficient capital you can spend on these projects is to upsize that pipeline. And you're right, we do think that the contract that we have in hand with Oxy today is helping us to get to that very industry-centric rate of return where we can spend that capital and get those returns. We also think, though, that that sets us up to go get a lot more opportunity that we can put onto that pipeline and really accrete that rate of return significantly higher from where it is today, where we're already happy with it. And so I think that just goes back to what we think is the size of the price here, which is really trying to position ourselves to be aligned with what is a very large challenge and opportunity about dealing with all the produced water growth in the basin and finding out how to responsibly disperse that to areas where it's more responsibly disposed of over time. And so we think, right, the rate of return is exactly what we need from a midstream perspective, but we also want to be opportunistic and set ourselves up a very efficient capital to go capture even more of that growth over time as that comes our way.

Got it. Helpful call,

John. I'll leave it there.

Thanks, everyone.

Your next question comes from the

line of Keith Stanley at Wolf Research. Your line is open.

Hi. Good afternoon. I wanted to follow up on the last question and just check in if you're already actively in discussions with other customers to help fill up the pipeline at this point to improve returns. No, absolutely. I think the background we'd give you

there is that this isn't a discussion that just happened overnight. We've been actively working something like this for a long time, and it takes a lot of time to really work not only with the producers, but also with the landowners and how you have to progress this also from a regulatory regime. So one thing we're really focused on is getting in front of all those discussions. And I'd say absolutely the way we've rounded the pipeline is designed in a way to have open discussions with a lot of other producer customers. And certainly as we go over the next two years in terms of building and executing on that development of the infrastructure, we'll continue to have those and put it to a point where we can hopefully put some more

volumes on the system.

Great. And another follow up one on water. Can you talk a little bit about who you see as your main competitors in Permian Produce Water today and thinking longer term what the opportunity set is to try to grow the water business and potentially consolidate it over time?

Hey Keith, it's Oscar. I'd jump in here and then turn

it back over to John. But one thing I'd say, this is a really unique solution. It's very much a midstream construct, right? Our contracts look like midstream contracts. This is a major project and it's a long term solution. So we think this is a bit of a different business model. And then developing this with Oxy and then in our discussions with other potential customers, this is a solution that works for the long term unlike some of the other shorter term or all field service type solutions out there. So I just wanted to start with that and then maybe Johnny can talk a little bit about the other.

Yeah, I think, you know, I think we're less focused on necessarily the competition as we are on the opportunity and how we're attacking that. And we do think there's some differentiation there where historically we've been happy with the value we've created on our water system, but we've certainly kind of constrained ourselves there because we're not willing to deploy capital at rates of return that aren't acceptable or to take on risk that we don't want to or that we don't have a proper mitigation for. And so really here, I think it's like Oscar said, this is a long term midstream solution where we see we're actually moving it in a differentiated way. And to the extent which we do believe that it goes more in that direction, we're absolutely looking at

seeing ways that we can grow off of that platform. Thank you.

Your next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonette at

JP Morgan. Your line is open.

Hey, this is Noah Katz on for Jeremy. Thank you for the question. First, I want to touch on the new long term produced water gathering and disposal system agreements with OXIE. Are there any other contracts with OXIE that you would consider extending going forward and what would these contracts most likely be centered

around? Thanks. Maybe

the extensions in general, I mean, we've already announced extensions on the gas side in the DJ. So there's opportunities with all customers to work on that all the time. John's pretty busy on that and the contract extensions in general. But I

don't know if you meant specifically to water or? Yeah, I think we have long term

contracts, especially on the OXIE side, but throughout the portfolio with everyone. And like Oscar says, we're continually looking to maintain and extend those.

I think anyone who's got substantial production, particularly in Western or Northern Delaware basin, has got to be looking at water for the long term. And what you're seeing here in this new construct is the first step in those long term solutions. Again, you probably know this, but the water to oil ratio is three to 12 times in the basin. So we're pretty good at producing a lot of water and then some other hydrocarbons too. And so it's a big and growing challenge. And we think this is a great way to start

mitigating that problem. Sounds good. Thanks for that.

And then as a follow up, looking ahead to 2026 CapEx, what are your initial thoughts on the CapEx range there with the 360 million from Pathfinder flowing into the range? And what can we expect steady state to be going forward, I guess, the Pathfinder CapEx? And would 2026 CapEx be similar if the Powder River Basin CapEx is the same year over year? Thank you.

Yeah. So kind of pulling that apart into a few pieces, obviously expect 2026 capital to be higher than what you're seeing for 2025, just as we add in the vast majority of Pathfinder into 2026. From there, what I would say is it's very much dependent on additional growth that we see in the PRB and what that looks like. The landscape up in the PRC is just so vast. And so building out to capture more volumes that are at the rate of return that we want it to be at is going to cost a little bit of money up there. The other aspect is, as John was mentioning, just the incremental customers that we would bring onto Pathfinder and thus the infrastructure required to bring them onto Pathfinder, that those dollars amount that capital would be impacting 2026 and obviously periods beyond that. So I think in general, your kind of normal run rate capital is a little bit higher than it previously was with us just because we have grown, right? Like we've grown more with the Meritudes Acquisition and we've grown more in the PRB. We still continue to put quite a bit of capital to work in the Delaware Basin because it is the main growth engine of the company. And so between all the areas that we have that are growing as well as just organic new projects that we're coming up with like Pathfinder, you're going to see that capital need to

be a little stronger going forward.

Thanks for the color. And John, Jeremy wanted me to say he's excited for you to come to be back. So I'll leave it there. Thanks.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Again, if you would like to ask a

question, press star, then the number one on your telephone keypad. Your next question comes from the line of Manav Gupta at UBS. Your line is open.

Good afternoon. My question here is you mentioned that you could be looking to grow through bolt-on deals. I'm trying to understand, can you give us some criteria which would make a deal a good bolt-on deal for you guys? Rate of return, kind of investment, synergies, if you could just help us talk through those things.

Yeah, thanks for that, Oscar. It's very consistent to where we've, the way we've always thought about acquisitions in the past. So of course, we're a little biased towards organic growth, which you're seeing some of the results of that here today. But on the in our complementary to our existing geographies, from a returns perspective, obviously needs to meet our typical mid-chain returns requirements. We'd like to be able to bring and add some value to any acquisition and generate a level of synergy there. So it's sort of pretty typical stuff, and hopefully not too surprising. And very much again, the template that we like to point to is is a Meritage deal where we check all those boxes pretty well. So nothing new, but that's the criteria.

Perfect. Second quick follow-up is slide 16. Looks like you outperformed on all matrix versus the guidance. Now moving to slide 19, particularly interested in what could drive the cash flow towards that 1.475 or maybe even above it as you were able to do in 2024 where you beat your free cash flow guidance.

Yeah, I think a lot of it just has to do with how we perform from obviously the components of free cash flow, right? So on adjusted EBITDA, a big part for us is just the expectations that we have around throughput and when that's going to come onto our system. So if they're exceeding the expectations and the forecast we have and that gets on a little bit earlier, those types of things can make a big difference in our adjusted EBITDA. We also have our fixed recovery contract, so there is a commodity aspect to everything for the barrels and the products that we get to keep and sell. Cost savings and what we do from a standpoint of that can help there. And then I would say on the capital expenditures piece, where we fall in that guidance range will also play a major impact on the free cash flow. With Pathfinder, that's obviously a very large project and so as we keep heading through the year and see maybe if there's pieces that we can accelerate, that might push some more capital into this year or things are taking a little bit longer, pushes it into next year, but whenever we have these larger chunkier projects, that's where you can see the capital move around a little bit more as the year continues.

Thank you so much. Your next question comes from the line of Ned Baramoff at Wells Fargo. Your line is open.

Hey, good afternoon. One more question on capital allocation, if I may. So the board recently authorized the 250 million buyback program and you just talked about capex guidance and elevated capital requirements into 2026. You also laid out the planned distribution increases, so it doesn't seem there is much room for unit repurchases. So could you maybe walk through how you think about the timing of buybacks and whether leaning into balance sheet capacity is something you would consider should the unit prices present an attractive opportunity for buybacks? Thank you.

Sure, thanks for the question, Oscar. So yeah, it's really, this one's really just good housekeeping. We agree with the growth projects we have and serve all the opportunities in front of us, so it's unlikely we would do much on that program, at least in the near term. It's nice to have one of those there if there's some significant market dislocation or some other event, but literally our last program just expired, so we just wanted to put something in place. But don't take it as a strong signal that that's something that, at least in the current environment,

that's on our mind. Understood. Thank you. That's all I had.

Thank you. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Oscar Brown, I turn the call back over to

you.

Okay, great. Thank you so much for your interest

and your questions today. We look forward to talking to everybody on the road, but also in May in our next call. And thanks again to our West team for all the work they've done and where we're headed with the company. Really looking forward to the future and

the next earnings call. Take care.

Thank you. This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect your lines.