7/31/2025

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Whitestone REIT Investor Relations
Director of Investor Relations

Good morning and thank you for joining Whitestone REIT's second quarter 2025 earnings conference call. Joining me on today's call are Dave Holman, Chief Executive Officer, Christine Mastandrea, President and Chief Operating Officer, and Scott Hogan, Chief Financial Officer. Please note that some statements made during this call are not historical and may be deemed forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements due to a number of risks, uncertainties, and other factors. Please refer to the company's earnings news release and filings with the SEC, including Whitestone's most recent Form 10Q and 10K for a detailed discussion of these factors. Acknowledging the fact that the call may be webcast for a period of time, it is also important to note that this call includes time-sensitive information that may be accurate only as of today's date, July 31st, 2025. The company undertakes no obligation to update this information. Whitestone's earnings news release and supplemental operating and financial data package have been filed with the SEC and are available on our website in the investor relations section. We published second quarter 2025 slides on our website yesterday afternoon, which highlight topics to be discussed today. I will now turn the call over to Dave Holman, our Chief Executive Officer.

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, David. Good morning and thanks again for joining our call. We delivered another solid quarter, increasing core FFO per share by .4% year over year, growing our occupancy 100 basis points sequentially from Q1, and increasing our average base rent per lease square foot year over year by .3% to 2528. We continue to see a very strong leasing environment in our high growth Sunbelt markets, which is allowing us to grow the value of our centers by strengthening the tenant mix with the addition of new and exciting businesses that serve the surrounding communities. Whitestone's strategically designed shorter lease terms are allowing us to capture the benefits of this strong environment faster than many peers with less lease roll. Over the next few years, we expect to leverage our leadership position in the high value shop space to deliver core FFO growth of five to 7%, underpinned by same store NOI growth of three to 5%. We intend to grow our dividend in conjunction with our FFO growth and scale our operations, spreading our fixed costs and broadening our investor base. Let me highlight and provide a few details on three of our second quarter accomplishments. First, we grew occupancy 100 basis points sequentially from Q1 to .9% as we re-merchandise, bringing in stronger tenants and setting up same store NOI growth in the quarters ahead. At our Terra Vita Center in North Scottsdale, during quarter, we added a very strong franchise ACE hardware and expect to add the best in class pickleball operator, the Pickler, later this year. These types of high quality tenants enhance the vibrancy of the center and allow us to populate the center with fast growing businesses that allow us to benefit from their growth through higher rent and expansion potential. Over the last couple of years, we have frequently highlighted our re-merchandising efforts and these efforts are coming to fruition and are providing a catalyst for future growth. Secondly, we had two strategic acquisitions in the quarter, San Clemente in Austin and South Hewland in Fort Worth. San Clemente has a very limited competitive retail around it, is anchored by a neighborhood with average incomes in excess of 280,000 and has over 55,000 vehicles per day passing at the intersection of Loop 360 and West Lake Drive. Across the street from our existing district, the San Clemente and Davenport Center, we anticipate strong growth ahead for both San Clemente and Davenport. Our South Hewland acquisition expands our geographic reach further in Fort Worth. The center sits at the entrance to Hewland Mall, already the highest visited mall within 30 miles and is poised to do even better as the fast growing surrounding neighborhood drives additional commercial development in the area. Both San Clemente and South Hewland fit very well within our overall strategy and match our acquisition criteria well. Our third growth driver is redevelopment. Our redevelopment continues at pace with Lion Square in Houston. We anticipate it will be complete by the end of the third quarter. This is an example where we've really been able to take advantage of a neighborhood's rapid evolution, upgrading our product and ensuring we maximize growth. Not only is the surrounding Asian community experiencing very strong growth, Park Eight Place, a $1 billion redevelopment, is occurring down the road on the former Halliburton campus. This type of development is occurring all around our centers and I'll have Christine go into more detail there. We are on track for our previously communicated 2025 full year guidance and are reaffirming our core FFO per share, same store NOI growth and year-end occupancy guidance ranges this morning. In terms of financial performance, we delivered core FFO per share of 26 cents for the quarter and 51 cents for the six months, up .4% for the quarter and .6% for the six months versus the prior year periods. Same store NOI growth of .5% for the quarter and .9% for the six months. We remain squarely on target to hit our three to .5% same store NOI growth target range for the year. Straight line leasing spreads of 17.9%, our 13th consecutive quarter with leasing spreads in excess of 17%. Early on in my time as CEO, I also spelled out that our plan would be to review every property within Whitestone's portfolio to ensure that the properties are in line with our strategy and are supported by the right neighborhood dynamics to drive growth and allow our leasing agents to do what they do best. We've done exactly what we said we would do and I'll point you to a summary of our transactions on slide 10. Our review has resulted in our selling 12 properties and purchasing six properties in addition to some pads and other parcels we bought adjacent to our existing properties. The net effect of all of this has been to strengthen our ability to grow and secure higher ended properties that have greater growth potential and durability of cash flows. Since the fourth quarter of 2022, our acquisitions have totaled 153 million and our dispositions have totaled approximately 126 million. We anticipate the capital recycling program will continue with an estimated 40 million of acquisitions and 40 million of dispositions through the balance of the year. In conclusion of my prepared marks, I'll reiterate our belief that in today's rapidly changing retail environment, a company with a well aligned forward thinking team and a well located portfolio with a higher concentration of high value shop space properly anchored to the community can outperform the herd. We're not only putting all the pieces in place to make that happen via top line growth, we're actively managing our expenses as well, reducing our GNA and interest expense both by about 6% from last year. All in all, we're executing on our re-merchandising, capital recycling, reducing our expenses, improving our balance sheet while growing earnings and our steadfast commitment to grow long-term value for shareholders. I look forward to continue to update investors in the months ahead and I'll now turn it over to Christine.

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Christine Mastandrea
President and Chief Operating Officer

Good morning everyone. As Dave said, we delivered another strong quarter, bringing the occupancy number back up with the ACE hardware commencing at Terra Vita and with a strong momentum in the shop space leases. We signed 33.2 million of total lease value, picking up slightly from the first quarter and building towards the fourth quarter, which is typically our strongest quarter. Leasing spreads were .4% for new leases and .2% for renewals, giving us a combined leasing spreads of .9% for the quarter. Same store NOI growth was .9% for six months and we remain confident in hitting our 2025 guidance of three to .5% same store NOI growth. Looking out a bit further, two significant new tenants, EOS at Windsor Park in San Antonio and Cactus Club Cafe at Boulevard Place in Houston are energizing their respective centers and will move out of their build free rent period soon and contribute over 150 basis points to same store NOI in 2026. Our most recent acquisition, South Hewland, joins a growing list of Whitestone properties that have major development going on around them. We've had the opportunity to acquire very stable cash flows and future upside as a result of urban development and so we took action and made the acquisition. Urban development is both a factor within our acquisition criteria framework and the natural progression that occurs because of our other criteria, strong university systems, high household incomes and upwardly mobile surrounding demographics. We spoke on the last two earnings calls about how Whitestone is designing to proactively identify change to take advantage of that change, delivering earnings as the company leverages change. Today I would like to highlight some of the major changes going on around our portfolio that will provide the opportunity in years ahead. Expanding further on South Hewland's development, Fort Worth population grew .1% last year and has become the nation's 11th largest city. It's clear to us that Hewland Mall will undergo additional development, further elevating the traffic to the area, which is already robust with I-20 and Hewland Street attracting more than 180,000 vehicles per day. Our South Hewland Center is perfectly positioned as a gateway for the mall and for upcoming development. In terms of upcoming development, Garden Oaks purchased in 2024 is very similar. We anticipate a major announcement soon concerning the neighboring old series property. The property will be redeveloped in conjunction with a neighborhood that is experiencing very rapid growth as Houston Heights redevelopment spreads northward. In other parts of the Houston Metro, we've got pockets of development as well. Near our Lake Woodland Center, the Cynthia Mitchell Woods Pavilion has taken over as the top spot globally for outdoor amphitheaters, with over 600,000 guests in attendance in 2024 alone. In response to the area's growth, Howard Hughes is building a Ritz-Carlton Residences, a short walk from Lake Woodland Center, and projected to be completed by the beginning of 2027. We've anticipated this development when we purchased the property in late 2022, and we're already benefiting from our ongoing re-merchandising efforts. Near our Boulevard Center, Post Oak Central is being revitalized, transforming a 16-acre campus into a mixed-use environment of retail, restaurant, and office spaces. Midway is the lead developer on the project, and groundbreaking recently occurred, and completion is expected late next year. In addition, the adjacent parcel to our Boulevard Center was recently purchased by Crescent Real Estate, the Doggett families, and also the Schnitzer families. They are developing a six-acre parcel to create a mixed-use development with 1.5 million square feet of additional space. We anticipate that this project is moving very quickly, and we welcome them as a neighbor. Given that our Boulevard property is very strong interest right now, and it sits at the main artery in the uptown area of San Felipe 610 and Post Oak Boulevard, we have the opportunity not only to protect our asset, but further upgrade our tenant base and move Whitestone's developable land at the property into an income-producing column. One last use and highlight that David touched upon was Park 8 Place is a $1 billion mixed-use development occurring less than a mile from Line Square on the former Helleburton campus, with over 70 acres designed around walkability, health, and sustainability and convenience. This development is supercharging an already fast-growing Asian community. The second largest concentration of Asian Americans in the United States are in Houston, Texas. In Phoenix Neuronsum Center, TSMC is investing $165 billion, including six fabs, two advanced packaging centers, and an R&D center. The project is expected to produce 6,000 direct manufacturing jobs and over 20,000 construction jobs. Anthem is Whitestone's closest center to TSMC's investment, but we anticipate the benefits will be felt throughout the greater metro area, which represents approximately 40% of Whitestone's portfolio. In Dallas, explosive growth is occurring around our El Dorado Center, and plans to build and expand on the McKinney Airport have recently been announced. Adding 47,000 square foot-tilling mile, which is intended to handle 1 million passengers annually within five years. This expansion is a result of numerous corporate headquarters located in McKinney. It will likely add to the attractiveness of the area for more major corporations. Construction has already begun. On the new airport, it is expected to open late next year. In Austin, we announced the purchase of San Clemente, really a sister center that sits across the road from our Davenport Center. Both of our properties will benefit from the recent improvements to the Loop 360, which would increase the traffic above the current 80,000 vehicles per day our centers currently enjoy. In addition, the Four Seasons is adding nearly 200 high-end residences to the area. This is another opportunistic acquisition that fit our criteria as well. With all of these developments, our leasing agents are constantly working to ensure our tenant mix is properly connected to the community. We'll see the benefits in the same store net operating income growth as we evolve the tenant mix. In some cases, we'll benefit without investment to a center. Lake Woodlands would be an example of a center that's prime benefit from change without redevelopment. In other cases, Line Square being a primary example, we can make a modest redevelopment in investment and capture significant gains upgrading a center to match the neighborhood. And finally, we've got a few centers, like Bulliver Place and Dana Park, where we have land for development where we expect to capture additional growth and quite possibly partnering with another firm to develop mixed-use assets at the center. In total, we have at least five to seven years of worth of development and redevelopment in order to supplement our growth. In terms of guidance, we have up to 1% of redevelopment growth embedded in our longer term same-store growth target, and we'll add development growth once we have greater visibility into timing and larger development projects in the area. I'll close by thanking the different teams at Whitestone for their ability to work together in a seamless fashion. Calling out one group I'm very pleased with is the tight integration between our acquisitions and leasing teams, allowing us to move quickly in acquisitions and integrate into our operations. That same closeness runs between leasing, property management, legal, finance, really throughout the entire company. We're a team-based company and has proved in the efforts and where we've exceeded these past years. This may be because of our smaller size, but overall we appreciate that we've got these great teams all working hard towards the same objectives. And with that, I'll turn it over to Scott to cover the financials.

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Scott Hogan
Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Christine. This morning we reiterated our 2025 $1.03 to $1.07 core FFO per share of guidance and our longer term 3% to 5% same-store in a wide growth target. We have also reiterated our forecast for year-end occupancy in the 94% to 95% range. We have strong momentum going into the second half, which is where we typically fill spaces we've taken back at the beginning of the year. Another measure of health of the business, our bad debt for the quarter ran just under 1% of revenues, nearly identical to this time last year and within our forecasted range. Last 12-month pro forma debt to EBITDA RE was 7.2 times and improvement from 7.8 times for the same period a year ago. This is up slightly from last quarter with the acquisition of San Clemente and Hewland in the second quarter. We anticipate property acquisitions and property sales to be roughly balanced through the end of the year and we expect year-end, the last 12-month pro forma EBITDA RE to be about seven times. We're in the process of recasting our credit facility and bank demand seems to be very strong. Our goals are to further ladder our debt, expand our bank group and deepen the relationships with our existing banks. However, versus 2022, when we last recasted our credit facility, Whitestone is a very different company. Debt to EBITDA RE is down over a full turn, driven primarily by EBITDA RE growing .9% since Q2 of 2022. We've proven the value of high return shop space and strengthened both our tenant base and the quality of our centers. We've been disciplined with our capital, delivered top core tiles, same store and a wide growth, broadened our investor base and positioned the company for continued strong growth. I anticipate I'll be able to provide a more detailed update on the credit facility recast on the next earnings call. In terms of Whitestone's liquidity, we had 5.3 million in cash and $69 million available under the credit facility at the end of the quarter. Our dividend remains very well supported at approximately 50% of our FFO and we expect to grow the dividend level in conjunction with earnings growth. We are focused on continuing to execute our plan and in turn financial results. And with that, we will open the line for questions.

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Thank you. We will now be conducting a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. A confirmation tone will indicate your line is in the question queue. You may press star two if you would like to remove your question from the queue. For participants using speaker equipment, it may be necessary to pick up your handset before pressing the star keys. One moment please while we pull for questions. The first question is from Mitch Germain from Citizens Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

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Mitch Germain
Analyst, Citizens Capital Markets

Thanks for taking my question. Seems like the next couple quarters, this one as well, the next few have some pretty tough same store comps. So I'm curious what gives you the confidence that you can continue to meet your forecast in the back part of the year. Hey Mitch,

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

it's Dave. Thanks for the question. I'll give a high level and then maybe let Scott or Christine add more details if they'd like. Obviously we do a very detailed forecasting. We look ahead at our tenants. We look at those tenants that come in. You saw this quarter that we brought up our occupancy 100 basis points from Q1. Those kind of activities obviously will contribute to future same store NOI growth. So as we look at the projections of the activity we've done, we do anticipate stronger same store NOI growth in the upcoming quarters versus Q2. For the six months, I think we're right just a little under 4%, which is within our guidance range. And Mitch, Scott, I'll just

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Scott Hogan
Chief Financial Officer

add to that that there are a number of large tenants that are already under contract that are in their free rent periods. So their rents are not reflected in the same store numbers that you saw in the second quarter, but a lot of that is just free rent coming into effect or going out in Q3 and Q4.

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Mitch Germain
Analyst, Citizens Capital Markets

Got you, Andy. Do you get any benefit from Pickler in the second part of the year or are they a backend weighted commencement?

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

So we anticipate they're gonna commence in the back half of the year. There will be some early concession periods. So it'll be minimal to same store NOI I think this year from Pickler. But obviously as we project out to future quarters, a number of these activities are gonna significantly increase the momentum we've got in that category.

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Mitch Germain
Analyst, Citizens Capital Markets

Great, thank you for that. And then Dave, you mentioned 40 million of acquisitions and dispositions. The fact that you gave that number and seem to be pretty certain about it leads me to believe that some of this activity is already in process. Anything that you wanna share with regards to what's happening there? Sure,

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

I mean, I think we've been very clear on our objectives of looking at our portfolio, continuing to evaluate every property, looking for those that we feel like we've tapped out the value, looking for opportunities in neighborhoods where we find assets. So we do have a number of activities going on. We are seeing a little bit more product coming to market. So one of the things we're seeing is a little bit more product than we've seen. But we do have obviously a number of activities. I did comment that we expect to be about 40 million and we feel pretty good about that number. So that does tell you that we're moving along in that process. But recycling is just something we should be doing. It's just like any portfolio where you're continuing to look at your holdings and make sure you're allocating capital in the best way. So we're roughly balanced. I think we talked about 150 or so sales and I'm sorry, 150 or so acquisitions, 125 million or so of disposition. So just the balance of the year, you'll see us continue to do what we've done for the last couple of years, which is upgrade this portfolio, continue to add value through getting better properties in the mix.

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Mitch Germain
Analyst, Citizens Capital Markets

Right, last one for me. Looks like interest expense forecast moved up slightly. And I know that you had baked in some potential savings from Pillarstone. That obviously seems to be a little bit on delay, which I'm not surprised about. Is there anything else that's kind of motivating that change that I should be aware of?

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Scott Hogan
Chief Financial Officer

Yeah, sure. I don't think we had any Pillarstone savings is baked into the forecast. But really what's driving that interest expense is just that in our recycling efforts, some of the acquisitions have come ahead of some of the dispositions. And so that million dollar increase, you see an interest expense is gonna be offset by increased non-same store, you know, I maybe even a little creative on those efforts. So it's really just capital that we had to put out there to purchase a few properties.

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Mitch Germain
Analyst, Citizens Capital Markets

So just the timing thing. And then Scott, from that regard, are we still thinking, you know, kind of sub seven times debt to EBITDA by year end?

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Scott Hogan
Chief Financial Officer

On a last 12 month basis, I think we'll be right around seven. And if we're just talking about the fourth quarter annualized, probably mid sixes is where we're forecasting.

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Mitch Germain
Analyst, Citizens Capital Markets

Thanks, Paige.

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Conference Operator

The next question is from Gaurav Mehta from Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead.

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Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Thank you, good morning. I wanted to ask you on the two acquisitions that you announced in second quarter. Can you provide some more color on the upside in those acquisitions as far as ease of opportunity and maybe mark to market rent potential?

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

Sure, I'll start out again and allow some of my teammates to chime in if they'd like. But, you know, I think fundamentally Gaurav, the most important thing we looked at was the quality of the neighborhoods and locations and the trajectory, both the Fort Worth acquisition and the Austin acquisitions are in really great sub markets. They're in areas with strong household incomes, traffic growth, and then neighborhoods that are continuing to get better. South Hewland in Fort Worth is adjacent to the Hewland Mall, which is a mall that's going through redevelopment. There's continues to be activity there. I think as we look at the opportunity, obviously continuing to be able to improve rents is a part of that and continuing to look at the tenant mix and upgrade that in conjunction with what we see going around the area. And in Austin, it's a couple things. We have a sister property right across Loop 360 that's Davenport. So we're gonna get some good synergies by those two properties being very close to each other and another one, it's just one of the best areas in Austin with very little retail around. And so we'll be, you know, you've got a really strong restaurant there that gets a local draw. And so we'll be able to do a number of things from the tenant mix and drive rent. So I think the opportunity for us on both of these is kind of our bread and butter. It is buying properties in areas that have an upward trajectory where the center is trailing a bit and we can come in and apply our model and really continue to move the tenant base and move the rent.

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Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Okay, second question on the recycling, on the $40 million of assets that you talked about that could be sold. Have you guys already shortlisted the properties that you plan to sell and would you still consider selling if you don't find the right acquisition opportunities this year?

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

Sure, you know, we are evaluating our properties on a regular basis, right? It's what we do. We look at cash flow models, we understand the surrounding area, we look at the tenant mix, and we look at what's going on in the market. So none of this is ever set in stone. You know, when we identify a property that we think it makes sense to divest and move on, it's obviously based on a value that we think is appropriate to move on. that we're going to be able to get for receiving for that property. So, you know, we annually, quarterly, monthly do a review of our holdings, and there's fluidity in that based on market conditions. But we do see good conditions right now. As I mentioned, we're seeing a little bit more product on the acquisition side, and we continue to see interest in some of the assets we've been selling, which are, you know, a little different quality than the ones we're buying, but local buyers and other buyers seem to have a pretty strong interest in those.

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Gaurav Mehta
Analyst, Alliance Global Partners

Okay, thank you. That's all I had.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thanks, Dara. The next question is from Barry Oxford from Colliers. Please go ahead.

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Barry Oxford
Analyst, Colliers

Great, guys. Thanks. Just building on the acquisitions, what have you seen as far as from a pricing standpoint or cap rate, you know, let's just say from January 1st to now, and then on a market basis, or are you seeing any of your markets on a pricing basis be more favorable on a risk-adjusted basis, or are you guys just more on an -by-asset type of mindset?

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

I'll comment on the cap rates. I'll let Christine maybe give some thoughts on the markets, but, you know, from a cap rate basis, I do think we've seen, you know, some leveling of the cap rates, less volatility there. You know, if you look at slide 10 of our investor presentation, we've given the kind of the going-in cap rates on the centers we've bought. Most recent acquisitions were in the 6-4 to 6-7 range going in. So I think that's kind of consistent with what we're seeing. And then we've also provided on that slide, you know, some current history on some of the other acquisitions. So we looked to, you know, add probably at least a couple hundred basis points of yield to our initial going-in yield. So I think from a cap rate perspective, we've seen a lot of stability of that over the last, you know, several months and quarters, and it appears to be settling in for the type of product we're looking at.

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Christine Mastandrea
President and Chief Operating Officer

And I think what we're also starting to see is just with the shifting market trends, with the growth that we're starting to, we're anticipating every time we buy a center, what's the timing of the re-merchandising effort, or is it something that we see as a potential redevelopment? And, you know, most of the time, the re-merchandising that we look at really starts occurring within 18 months of when we buy an asset. And then along with that, something that might see as something like Garden Oaks, for example, which we bought at a fairly good price, but was waiting, you know, for an adjacent property to be developed before we'd start doing the redevelopment with it. So we kept the in-place cash flow, which is fairly strong, and then we'll start moving into redevelopment probably in another, you know, year to, probably around in a year. So, you know, and then this is based again on what we see as the market conditions, as I just spoke about today. It's, our locations have really, really strong infrastructure development, you know, densification coming in, and it's been rather impressive and much of that has to do with the communities that we choose for growth. Perfect,

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Barry Oxford
Analyst, Colliers

thanks for the

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Christine Mastandrea
President and Chief Operating Officer

color,

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Barry Oxford
Analyst, Colliers

guys.

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John Masoka
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Thanks, Barry.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Yep. The next question is from John Masoka from B. Riley Securities. Please go ahead.

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John Masoka
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Good morning, everyone. Maybe thinking about, I was gone, maybe thinking about the same-start growth guidance. You know, how much of that right now is subject to leasing activity? Is it going on now, or is it gonna be going on in the remainder of three Q and four Q, and how much of that growth is really locked in based on things you have signed that are going through free rent period? I know you mentioned a little bit in kind of Mitch's question, but is there any kind of, you know, is that kind of set in stone at this point, just given, you know, the free rent period that tends to exist for bigger tenants?

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Scott Hogan
Chief Financial Officer

I think what we have in our forecast right now, John, is just normal leasing activity, and so there's nothing extraordinary happening in the third and fourth quarters that those same-store forecasts are based on. So without getting into a lot of detail, I think it's just our regular lease expirations and just normal leasing activity. I don't know if that helps at all.

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John Masoka
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

That makes sense. I'm just kind of thinking, like, is the activity you're gonna be engaging in on the leasing front, you know, the remainder of this quarter and into four Q really gonna be more of a 26 event, and it's stuff you did in one Q, two Q maybe even last year that's gonna be driving the remainder of kind of the same-store growth? I'm just kind of thinking, is there any, you know, if anything happens on a macro front, whatever it may be, I mean, how much of that is kind of variable in that guidance today?

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Scott Hogan
Chief Financial Officer

We have a couple large spaces that we're leasing that'll run into 2026, but they're built into the forecast that way, and then we just have routine leasing that's going on. I don't know if David Christine would add anything, but I think it's just normal. There is a mix in there, but it's a normal mix. Yeah, I do think,

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

John, as you said, at a macro level, the same-store NOI trails the leasing activity, and so I think we're very bullish on, you know, balance of the year same-store NOI as we look to 26, what we've been doing in our portfolio and the quality of tenants we've been bringing in and the re-merchandising efforts. So, you know, I think we've given the guidance for 25, we're bullish about where we're headed, and we do think that you're on in that there is a bit of a trail on the same-store NOI to your leasing activity.

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John Masoka
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

And then what are you kind of seeing in terms of trends on leasing spreads, starting from a very high base, obviously, in 3Q of last year, but things have kind of trended down. Understand 2H is your stronger leasing season, so just kind of, is it, you know, is it maybe, you know, once again, understanding starting from a high base. Is there kind of a seasonal trough in kind of 1Q, 2Q, in a bounce back in 2H, or is some of these tightening maybe a little bit of a normalization of things in the macro environment, the leasing environment, et cetera?

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Scott Hogan
Chief Financial Officer

Well, if I look at the leasing spreads, the new leasing spreads were just north of 40%, and that's, there weren't a ton of leases in there, but it's based on some very strong restaurant activity that we had, so second-generation restaurant spaces that we're filling are coming in at much higher rents than they were, and the renewal leasing spreads were down just a little bit, but they were, they're on a lower TI and Leasing Commission amount than we've seen in prior quarters, so I think if you were to net, if you were to net the leasing spreads against the TI and Leasing Commissions, that they're gonna come in pretty close to the same amount. I appreciate that,

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John Masoka
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Coller. Then last one for me, on a short-term basis, where are you comfortable taking leverage if for whatever reason, maybe the acquisition environment is more attractive than dispositions, or there's something that doesn't line up their timing? I mean, Wes? I think we've, yeah, I'll start.

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

We've committed to continuing to improve our balance sheet as we grow, so I think that's our commitment. I think Scott talked about where we expect debt to EBITDA or E2B year-end, if you look back, the progress we've made over the last couple years is very significant. So, I just think for us, it's continuing to execute, to grow this platform, to strengthen the balance sheet, to strengthen our investor base. So, what we're comfortable on taking leverage to, I think we're comfortable on doing the things we said we're gonna do, which is we're gonna grow earnings, and we're gonna strengthen our balance sheet in conjunction. You can do both things.

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John Masoka
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

Okay, and imagine the answer is no, but essentially, some of this acquisition activity you're seeing is attractive. It's not contingent on you closing disposition activity first.

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

No, I don't think so. I mean, we do have different sources of capital. We have a credit facility, so we have largely been capital neutral on our recycling, and we're gonna continue to do that. We said that was the activity for the balance of the year. So, we're thinking ahead, we're looking at acquisitions. We obviously have capital sources that allow us to act more quickly than many other buyers, and so I think I answered your question in a roundabout way there. That makes

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John Masoka
Analyst, B. Riley Securities

sense, and that's it for me. Thank you very much. Thanks, John.

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Operator
Conference Operator

There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back over to Dave Holman, Chief Executive Officer, for closing comments.

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Dave Holman
Chief Executive Officer

Thanks to all for joining our call. We appreciate your interest in Whitestone. We appreciate giving you an update, and look forward to finishing the year, and look forward to further communications. If there's anything we can do, any questions anyone has, please feel free to reach out to us. Thanks, and have a great day.

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