Zeta Global Holdings Corp.

Thank you for standing by. This is the conference operator. Welcome to the Zeta fourth quarter 2022 earnings conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. After the presentation, there'll be an opportunity to ask questions. To join the question queue, you may press star then one on your telephone keypad. Should you need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero. I would now like to turn the conference over to Scott Schmitz, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Zeta's fourth quarter 2022 conference call. Today's presentation and earnings release are available on Zeta's Investor Relations website at investors.zetaglobal.com, where you will also find links to our SEC filings, along with other information about Zeta. Joining me on the call today are David Steinberg, Zeta's co-founder, chairman, and chief executive officer, and Chris Greiner, Zeta's chief financial officer. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that statements made on this call, as well as in the presentation and earnings release, contain forward-looking statements regarding our financial outlook, business plans and objectives, and other future events and developments, including statements about the market potential of our products, potential competition, and revenues of our products and our goals and strategies. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These risks and uncertainties include those described in the company's earnings release and other filings with the SEC and speak only as of today's date. In addition, our discussion today will include references to certain supplemental non-GAAP financial measures, which should be considered in addition to and not as a substitute for our GAAP results. We use these non-GAAP measures in managing the business and believe they provide useful information for our investors. Reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures to the corresponding GAAP measures, where appropriate, can be found in the earnings presentation available on our website, as well as our earnings release and our filings with the SEC. With that, I will now turn the call over to David.

Thank you, Scott. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. 2022 was a stellar year for Zeta, which we capped off with an incredible Q4 that once again exceeded our expectations. For the full year 2022, we delivered revenue of $591 million, up 29% year over year, with adjusted EBITDA of $92 million, up 46% year over year. The leverage in our model resulted in 180 basis points of adjusted EBITDA margin expansion to 15.6% in 2022. And importantly, we generated $78 million of cash from operations with free cash flow of $39 million, up 123% year over year. On the back of this momentum, we are providing initial 2023 revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance above current consensus, which Chris will discuss in detail shortly. The strength of our results highlight the power of Zeta's patented AI and proprietary data to help large enterprise brands improve their ability to acquire, grow, and retain customers more efficiently and effectively than ever before. And evidenced by our 48 new scaled customer additions in 2022, it is clear that chief marketing officers who are under pressure to do more with less are willing to make changes to improve the effectiveness of their marketing programs and lower their total cost of ownership. The Zeta Marketing Platform or ZMP was purpose-built to improve marketing efficiency and effectiveness by unifying identity, intelligence, and activation to create better experiences for our customers and deliver better outcomes for brands. As we look forward, we believe our competitive position has never been stronger. The market continues to move in our direction as foundational elements of the ZMP are now boardroom topics. Artificial intelligence has exploded and is now vital to setting corporate strategy. First-party data and CDPs are essential for making mission-critical business decisions. And greater personalization and addressability are crucial to improving the efficacy of marketing campaigns. The underpinnings of our competitive position started 15 years ago with a focus on reducing complexity by making data actionable and eliminating multipoint solutions. We assemble one of the largest proprietary opt-in databases to improve an enterprise's understanding of its customers, identify potential new customers, and grow existing customers. We made very early investments in machine learning and artificial intelligence, which are combined with our data cloud and is the foundation of the ZMP. AI is in our DNA. Our goal at Zeta is to create actionable intelligence. Our AI technology and deep learning capabilities have become progressively better at distinguishing signal from noise, making it easier for marketers to make smart decisions. As an example of our innovative approach, We recently introduced Chatbot Zeta, which incorporates Zeta's proprietary data cloud with ChatGPT's generative AI capabilities to produce conversational attributes and descriptions of individuals. As we incorporate this functionality into the ZMP, it will allow Zeta to operate even more efficiently and become a more strategic partner to enterprises by replacing more of their existing tech stack. Most of the legacy marketing clouds we compete against are non-core assets buried within larger technology conglomerates. And as technology peers change their investment priorities and initiate cutbacks, these non-core assets are likely to see deeper cuts, causing them to fall even further behind us. As it currently stands, legacy marketing clouds are no longer good enough. And as a result, point solutions that plug into traditional stacks are also feeling the pinch. We believe the opportunity to gain share has never been greater. In this uncertain macro environment, we are capitalizing on the replacement cycle of legacy solutions and point products within enterprise environments. Let me give you an example. We recently replaced the legacy marketing cloud at a leading specialty retailer. Not only did the ZMP deliver more personalized audiences with strong intent signals resulting in higher ROI, but we substantially lowered the total cost of ownership by consolidating four different point solutions. In a short amount of time, We built a strong relationship with this retailer who views Zeta as an extension of their marketing team and have now signed a five-year agreement. In addition to being complex and expensive to integrate, legacy marketing clouds are also ill-suited for emerging marketing channels. At Zeta, orchestrating an omnichannel journey across all addressable channels is another area where we stand out. A good example is our continued rapid growth in CTV, which grew over 300% again this quarter, accounting for a double digit percentage of usage on our platform versus low single digits last year. And when we combine more addressable channels with our always-on intelligence, the results are even better. For instance, we are currently helping one of the leading U.S. pharmaceutical companies reduce wasted spend from their linear TV budget by leveraging our data cloud and AI capabilities to better target in-market consumers that could benefit from their drugs and therapies. It is difficult to find another single company that could have solved this problem for them. Traditional solutions require a system integrator to stitch together multiple point solutions, an expensive and error-prone approach that is no longer sustainable in today's environment, in which CMOs seek both greater efficiency and greater effectiveness. Our disruptive and differentiated approach is also creating the strongest hiring environment we have seen in years. We are attracting and retaining exceptional people while many of our peers are undergoing workforce reductions. In summary, 2022 was a stellar year for Zeta with results exceeding even our expectations. We have maintained a balanced growth and profitability profile while continuing to invest in our people, products, and go-to-market initiatives. This is resulting in better experiences for consumers and better outcomes for enterprises, in addition to creating a better place for people to work. We're extremely proud to share that Zeta was recently recognized as one of built-in best places to work in both New York and LA. We believe our one Zeta culture has been critical to our success, and we continue to invest time and resources to build an inclusive, innovative, and collaborative environment for all employees. We also achieved our goal of carbon net neutrality in 2022, which is an incredibly important achievement to prospective and existing clients as well as our employees. We intend to be a leader in this critical area, and we will continuously work to reduce our admissions. I would like to sincerely thank our Zeta team, our customers, our partners, and our shareholders for their ongoing support of our vision. And while we have come a long way on our journey, as we like to say at Zeta, we are just getting started. Now let me turn it over to Chris to discuss our results in greater detail. Chris?

Thank you, David, and good afternoon, everyone. I will cover three topics on today's call. First, we continue to be a business delivering beyond its commitments. Fourth quarter results once again exceeded expectations, highlighted by top and bottom line growth rates pacing ahead of the Zeta 2025 model. Second, 2022's results established yet another data point in a multi-year trend of accelerating revenue growth, sustained operating leverage, and margin expansion. And third, just like last year, our 2023 guidance is above the street and still set purposely conservative, intending to be the starting point for how we build throughout the year. Additionally, we're adding free cash flow as a component of our Zeta 2025 plan. So, lots of great things to cover, so let's dive in. Our credibility is our currency. Since going public, we built a track record of beat and raise execution with six straight quarters delivering above our guidance. This last quarter was no exception. In the fourth quarter, revenue was $175 million, up 30% year-to-year and nine points above the midpoint of guidance. Upside in the quarter was broad-based and not attributable to any single factor. Our U.S. revenue grew 32% year-to-year, the third straight quarter growing over 30% and is 96% of total Zeta revenue. Large enterprises from diverse industries are choosing Zeta in what we see as early innings of a replacement cycle. We ended the quarter with 403 scaled customers, up 14 from the third quarter and up 14% year to year, both pacing well ahead of our Zeta 2025 model. Peeling this back a couple more layers, six new scaled customers came from consumer and retail, two from financial services, two from advertising and marketing, and four from technology services and others. Out of the 14 new scaled customers, five were new to Zeta, and nine were existing customers that became scaled, a consistent mix from prior periods. Scaled customers are adding more channels and more use cases as they achieve better return on investment outcomes from the Zeta marketing platform. By way of evidence, scaled customer quarterly ARPU of 424,000 grew 15% year to year, and while ahead of our Zeta 2025 model, what really stood out was ARPU growth within our super scaled cohort. Super-scaled quarterly ARPU was $1.3 million, up 26% year-to-year. This drove 34% year-to-year revenue growth in our super-scaled cohort, despite a small decrease in super-scaled customer count due to the oscillation around the $1 million scaled versus super-scaled cutoff point. You'll recall we increased ARPU from upsell and cross-sell activity tied to adding channels and use cases. During the fourth quarter, we continued our strong trend on each dimension. From an adding channels perspective, scaled customers now average over two channels per customer. In fact, scaled customers using four or more channels grew over 50% from a year ago to 53. And associated with the strong super-scaled ARPU growth I just highlighted, the average channels used per super-scaled customer is approaching three at 2.8. In terms of increasing multiple use cases, we continue to make exciting inroads. All three of Zeta's use cases, acquire, grow, and retain, grew double digits year-to-year, led by acquire and grow. And the number of new-scale customers using more than one use case increased to 46, up from 33 a year ago, or 39% year-to-year. Our diversification of customers was evident across verticals. with six out of our top 10 growing over 25%. No vertical represents more than 13% of our revenue. And of note, fourth quarter midterm candidate revenue was 4.5 million, slightly better than our guidance of 4 million. On a gap basis, our net loss was 52 million, which includes 68 million of stock-based compensation. Excluding the accelerating expensing related to our IPO, stock-based compensation would have been $15 million. For the quarter, we delivered adjusted EBITDA of $32.4 million, up 42% year-to-year, with adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.5%, up 150 basis points year-to-year. Briefly switching to our full-year 2022 results, revenue of $591 million was up 29% year-to-year, which exceeded even our internal plan for the year. Our direct platform revenue mix for the year increased to 77%, up from 76% in 2021. And for the year, direct revenue grew 32% versus 2021. Full-year gap cost of revenue ended at 36.5%, down from 38.1% in 2021. And like many of our Zeta 2025 revenue KPIs, This decrease of 170 basis points from 2022 to 2021 is well ahead of our model of 60 basis points of improvement. We continue to see healthy expansion of existing customers as demonstrated by net revenue retention of 112% in 2022, consistent with our model of 110% to 115% and in line with last year. On a gap basis, Our 2022 net loss was $279 million, which includes $299 million of stock-based compensation. Excluding the accelerated expensing related to our IPO, stock-based compensation would have been $57 million. And for the year, we delivered adjusted EBITDA of $92.2 million, up 46% year-to-year, with adjusted EBITDA margin of 15.6%, up 180 basis points year-to-year. We realized strong cash generation and an increased conversion from adjusted EBITDA of 42% in 2022 versus 28% in 2021. And more specifically, cash flow from operating activity was $78 million, up 77%, with free cash flow of $39 million, up 123%. This brings me to my second topic. Zeta has been delivering sustained operating leverage over a multi-year period. something we expect to continue as we drive towards Zeta 2025. In that setting, it's valuable to take a step back at the trajectory we've established in expanding profitability while simultaneously accelerating revenue growth at scale. Since 2019, Zeta's headcount has only grown from 1,404 team members to 1,604 ending 2022, just a 5% compound annual growth rate over that period. Because of our globally distributed resource model, we can add teammates for impact and efficiency at the same time. For example, from 2019 to 2022, U.S. headcount grew only 2% annually, while global centers, primarily India and Prague, have expanded 7% annually. Meanwhile, revenue growth accelerated each year from 2019 to 2022 with a three-year compound annual growth rate of 25%. or five times the rate of headcount growth over the same period. That's the recipe for sustained operating leverage. Altogether, our adjusted EBITDA margins have grown from 8% in 2019 to 15.6% in 2022, averaging 260 basis points of expansion per year, well ahead of our Zeta 2025 model of 160 basis points. What we've accomplished over this period is humbling. We've achieved product category leadership, as recognized by multiple industry analysts, while many competitors are pulling investment and going backwards. We transformed to a new go-to market by shifting to a hunter-farmer model and greatly expanding our branding and demand generation capabilities. Total quota carriers have more than doubled from 2019 to 123 sales reps ending 2022. And of course, we established the back office infrastructure to be a public company, and we're emerging as a leading place to work a key component to Zeta 2025 inside our company. In fact, we're not only attracting great talent with our culture, we're retaining teammates as well. We have a 95% leadership retention rate at the VP level and above. And we've accomplished all of this while reducing G&A, excluding stock-based compensation, as a percentage of revenue every year since 2019, going from 24% to now 17% in 2022. The use of our own AI and automation is aiding in the realization of operational efficiencies. Which brings me to my third topic, our initial 2023 guidance and Zeta 2025 updates. Clearly, the market backdrop is turbulent, but we're still seeing strong demand for platforms delivering a lower total cost of ownership, generating verifiable ROIs, and offering fast implementations to ZMP, delivers on each. As a point of reference, as Zeta CFO, I'm replacing multiple legacy point solution vendors in our back office by implementing a single platform, allowing us to lower expense and simplify systems. CXOs are using the same period of opportunity to make similar decisions across their technology stacks. Our sales pipeline reflects this theme of consolidation and is currently at an all-time high. We've been speaking throughout 2022 about RFP volumes being up. What is also interesting is the dollar value of those deals is growing even faster. This is because brands need to consolidate multiple point solutions in their marketing stack, opening up bigger contract value opportunities for our ZMP to replace. And while we're optimistic about our win rates, sales capacity, and opportunity pipeline, we believe it remains prudent to set initial 2023 guidance purposely conservative. We want this to be clearly understood as a starting point for how we will build throughout the year, which is consistent with the approach we took at the same time last year. Even in doing so, our view of the full year 2023 is 20 million higher than consensus on the top line and greater than the 15 million of upside we delivered in the fourth quarter. Guidance figures are as follows, as seen on slide 16 in our supplemental. With respect to full year 2023 revenue, we expect to generate $691 million, or 17% year-to-year growth at the midpoint of our range. From a quarterly cadence perspective, we expect 2023 to follow our three-year average revenue linearity, which we outlined on slide 17 of our earnings supplemental. the share of revenue delivered in each quarter as a percentage of the total has adhered to a very tight range that we expect to continue and therefore is prudent to follow as you spread our full-year guidance across the quarters. With that in mind, in the first quarter of 2023, we expect to generate revenue of $150 million, up 19% year-to-year at the midpoint of our range. In terms of adjusted EBITDA, For the full year of 2023, we expect to generate 117.4 million or 17% margin at the midpoint of our range. This represents 140 basis points of improvement from 2022 and consistent with the expansion required to achieve Zeta 2025 of adjusted EBITDA margins of at least 20%. One point of note. Last year's adjusted EBITDA margin expansion was driven by a combination of a lower cost of revenue percentage as well as leverage in G&A and R&D. As we think about 2023 adjusted EBITDA margin expansion, it's our expectation more leverage will come through each of our operating expense budgets rather than cost of revenue. For the first quarter, we expect to generate adjusted EBITDA of $22.6 million, representing a margin of 15% at the midpoint of our range. We're also introducing free cash flow as a target to Zeta 2025. In addition to generating at least $1 billion in revenue and at least $200 million in adjusted EBITDA, we also expect to yield at least $110 million of free cash flow. This implies 55% of our adjusted EBITDA will convert to free cash flow by 2025, up from 42% we achieved in 2022. It also factors the adverse impact of higher interest expense. Finally, in terms of KPIs, we're increasing scaled customer count targets to more than 500 by 2025, up from our initial target of 450. To recap, our mantra as a public company is quite simple and continues to reflect three core principles. One, exceed expectations. Two, guide conservatively. And three, drive revenue and margins higher. We believe this approach gives investors confidence, confidence we can execute in our pipelines, de-risk for an uncertain macro, and further expand our operating leverage characteristics. With that, let's move to questions. Operator?

Thank you. We will now begin the question and answer session. To join the question queue, you may press star then 1 on your telephone keypad. You will hear a tone acknowledging your request. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up your handset before pressing any keys. To withdraw your question, please press star, then 2. Our first question comes from Brian Schwartz of Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.

Yeah, hi. Congratulations on the quarter, and thank you very much for taking my question. David, first thing I wanted to talk about was just an overall view from what you're hearing from customers when they're talking about marketing budgets for this new year in 2023. What are you hearing from them? Are they thinking about growing them? Are they resetting them lower? Does the budget growth seem to be more resilient from their point of view? Any caller will be helpful. Thank you.

First of all, thank you, Brian. We appreciate your attending. The truth of the matter is it's like almost anything. I meet with a ton of CEOs and a ton of customers. Everybody says that we're dealing with their businesses are doing well, but there's some trepidation because of what they're hearing in the wider marketplace. To date, we are not seeing any marketing contraction in any of our customers' budgets. That could change later in the year, but right now we're seeing very, very solid numbers. In fact, I would say more of them are talking about how do they grow the budget, but the topic in every boardroom and the topic with every CMO is efficiency, right? How do we take our existing budget and focus more on getting more people with the exact same amount. It's not sort of how do we cut and then get more from that.

Thank you. And then the follow-up I had, one for David and then I'll layer in Chris too. David, can you talk at all about the momentum that you're seeing with some of the bigger new partners that you signed up over the last couple years? I'm thinking about Snowflake and Dun & Bradstreet. Are you seeing meaningful interest and pipeline coming from them And then for Chris, can you touch on how this can help the business and the sales and marketing leverage over the long term? Thanks again for taking my questions.

Oh, no, of course, Brian. You know, I would say, first of all, as I think Chris said, our pipeline is at an all-time high. We've gone from 50-some-odd salespeople to over 130 salespeople over the last few years, and we're seeing incredible throughput But at the same time, the marketing partnerships, I would say you mentioned Snowflake, them in particular have been an incredible partner and have generated a tremendous amount of deal flow. Some of our other partners have done well, but Snowflake really stands out as the absolute best, which is not to say the others haven't flowed deals, but we're really experiencing growth. Quite frankly, as you saw, I think, in the numbers, the growth rates are even surprising us a little bit, coming out of how strong those partnerships have been and how strong our new salespeople are. Chris?

Yeah, and Brian, as you'd expect, the extension of our partner networks and those, you know, the three, the Amazon, Dun & Bradstreet, and Snowflake, and, you know, our expectations will continue to grow those. add leverage to the sales model, and would be incremental to Zeta 2025. We built Zeta 2025 on our own sales productivity, so the further lift we get from those partners and more partners down the road should be incremental.

Congratulations on the quarter. Thanks, Brian. Operator next. Thanks again.

Thanks, Brian.

Our next question comes from Arjun Bhatia of William Blair. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks, guys, and all of my congrats on the quarter. David, you know, you're obviously stressing that there is a need for efficiency with CMOs and the platform consolidation kind of plays into that perfectly. When you see the customers that are consolidating, is there a typical profile of customers that are looking to move off legacy platforms or point solutions, right? Maybe, you know, is it customers that have had a solution in place for 10 years, 15 years that they haven't modernized like What do you typically see out there, and is there an opportunity to use that profile to go out and target customers that are ripe for consolidation?

Yeah, so Arjun, first of all, thank you. Second, without question, what we're seeing is the vast majority of the customers that are looking for efficiency are currently using legacy and larger marketing clouds. And As I think I pointed out in my prepared remarks, most of these legacy marketing clouds, if not all of them, are subsidiaries of subsidiaries sitting inside a very large tech conglomerate. And the truth of the matter is they've been under-investing in these assets for many years as a percentage of what they invest because they're investing in their core products. And if I were them, I'd probably be doing the same thing. Our core product is us, right? We are bespoke to do this. So what we're seeing is as contracts are coming up, with the legacy marketing clouds. They are going out to bid at a much higher rate than we've ever seen before. And we're winning. At the same time, our ability to sit alongside of them during the existing contract and help them with some of our functionality, meaning we can help with acquisition while they're using a legacy marketing cloud for CRM. And we can move through different functions with them That's getting our nose under the tent. And then when they go out to bid, we are generally in the catbird seat. So to answer your question simply, it is large marketers who are using legacy marketing clouds as they are coming up for contract. We are seeing them move at a much higher pace than in the past.

Perfect. That's very helpful. And one for Chris. I appreciate the Zeta 2025 free cash flow target. I'm curious, you know, I did notice that the conversion picks up, the EBITDA conversion picks up over the years. Can you give us a sense of what levers you have available to drive that conversion higher on free cash flow over the next couple years?

Sure. First, we've come a long way in a short period of time. So if you just look back a couple of years, you'd see that the cash flow conversion was in the mid-20s, call it, and then ticked up to 28 this year at 42. So the tools we have in our tool belt that we've been using over the last several years will continue to use. And I'll stress that $110 million is an at-least, just like the profit number, just like the revenue number is for Zeta 2025. But we feel like we've learned a lot over the years, getting much more efficient in how much drops from EBITDA to cash flow and expect that efficiency to continue. And there's a reason why there's an at-least on it.

Thanks, Arjun. Operator, next question, please.

Our next question comes from Richard Baldry of Roth Capital. Please go ahead.

Thanks. Sort of getting back to the partnership idea, as you're scaling up now and driving so much more revenue per client, how about the opportunities to partner sort of with the non-traditional players like the agencies themselves who, you know, I think they're battling for mindshare and the ability to do targeting versus the larger players like Google or Facebook. You know, could We saw them talking at a panel at your user conference. Are there ways for those to really expand into a deeper partnership to go to market with?

Thanks. First of all, thank you, Rich. Yeah, I mean, it was not a coincidence. We had the presidents of the largest U.S. holding companies at Zeta Live this year. You know, we see the agencies as our partners, and we have for quite some time. The difference is what's changed is the elimination of Apple's IDFA rippled through the efficacy and modeling of most of the agency's ability to focus on social media. And at the same time, I think you've got a big contingent in the agency world that are very nervous about pricing power from Google, and they're looking for alternative partners to scale with as it relates to that. You know, we've made our living direct to enterprise. It's still the vast majority of our revenue. Even when we partner with an agency, we have a deep and very meaningful relationship with the underlying client. It's not like the agency just says, here, go forth and conquer. It's we come in together as partners to that enterprise, and we work lockstep. It is a Very exciting growth opportunity for Zeta. It's something we are spending a tremendous amount of time on. And I would say that the time I have personally invested into this segment of our business has been bearing some fruit, which we think could bear additional fruit going forward. Also, I will point out, we did mention we had 300% growth in our CTV business, there's a lot of linear TV that's going to move from linear to CTV over the next few years that today sits in the control of the agency holding corporations. So we feel we're very well positioned to partner with them and help them to do a better job for their clients in lockstep.

And last one for me would be, You walked through how the headcount leverage has been pretty extraordinary over the past few years in terms of its slower pace of growth and revenue growth. Do you have any concern that if this top line keeps growing as fast as it does, that you could end up a little stressed on the service delivery side? Maybe that's a way to talk about how much of what you do is automated versus high touch. Thanks.

I think you hit on a really good point. I mean, our customers... use and love our AI and we're using the automation inside the company to become more efficient. So I think that's part A of why we feel comfortable with, you know, what we're adding in terms of capacity for the requirements we have for our customers. The second though is, you know, we have an impressive global footprint. So while total headcount over the last three years has only grown 5%, US grew two, our global centers primarily in India and Prague have grown seven. That gives us not just tremendous operating leverage, But we have very skilled, long-tenured leaders at those locations that have built amazing culture, and we can very quickly ramp up in resources. David, you and Steve have built it.

I mean, Steve really has spent a lot of time on the Indian and Czech Republic, or I should say Prague operation, and now we're standing up operations in the Philippines as well, which has been pretty exciting. Thank you. I think it's important to note, Rich, that we onboarded 48 customers of scale last year. That is a big number for a company like us. We couldn't have done that without automation, and we couldn't have done it with our amazing global people. The other thing I would say is we have over 100 patents either issued or close to being issued in artificial intelligence and machine learning companies. Fifteen years ago, when we started out as a business, you know, big data and AI were not even in the vernacular of what you would talk about as it relates to marketing or business intelligence. They were both things of science fiction. Today, they're table stakes, right? But what we really focused on, even from day one, was owning a large pool of first-party permission-based data and, two, automations. And automation has sat at the core of what we are building. We originally thought of ourselves many years ago as a marketing automation platform. In fact, that was sort of our tagline for many years. Today, it's AI at the core and is native to our platform. And one of the other things I like to point out is when you look at some of those legacy marketing clouds, To use their artificial intelligence, you have to step out of their platform and do a data dip into a separate platform to get to AI. Same thing for their data sets. When they're importing them, they sit outside of the core of the platform. The Zeta marketing platform has data sets. and artificial intelligence as native to the application layer. And it just makes things so much faster. It allows decisioning to move in a hundredth of a millisecond versus, you know, some much longer period of time. So I think we're very well positioned to continue this trend.

Thank you, Rich. Operator, next question.

Thanks, Rich.

Our next question comes from Jason Cryer.

Craig Hellam please go ahead thank you guys too for me maybe I'll start with David just on the connected TV side I wanted to dig into that increased contribution I'm curious if there are meaningful changes to like your product set that you're going to market with or if this is just more awareness of the product and just organic improvement there second question for Chris You mentioned bigger deals in the pipeline. Just wondering if you can expand on that. Are you talking about more use cases, more channels, or just more committed volumes than those?

So I'll take the first part second. I think, first of all, we are sitting at the precipice of what is a new dawn of the way people consume video content, right? So when... TV started out 100 years ago with the Milton Berle Texaco show. You had... one channel, two channels, then three channels. Then, as my children like to point out, in my lifetime, I started with five channels. Now we're up to hundreds of channels. But at the end of the day, that's not the way the younger generation is consuming their video content. They're consuming it through connected TV, online video, or over-the-top TV. And you're beginning to see that in the results of the linear TV providers. So I believe we have the world's best CTV platform, and because the Zeta Data Cloud is able to identify a unique individual online through either programmatic or online video and through social, mobile, and CTV, same individual, same Zeta ID number can be identified across all of those channels. As marketers are looking to move forward, from linear TV to connected TV, they want a platform that can help them focus on return on investment. The ability to do what we do with a direct target to see TV is game-changing, and I'm quite frankly not aware of anybody else out there that can do that. I mean, there are other platforms that can do CTV campaigns, but they're doing it to probabilistic data sets, not deterministic data sets, and they're going to have to catch a lot of dolphins in their net to get to that tuna. We're able to really get down and just catch that tuna in our net, which allows the client to spend the same amount of money, but drive substantially more customers. Chris, for the second question. Yeah. Thank you, Jason.

It's interesting. If you look at the number of deals in our pipeline a year ago, and this is as at the end of the fourth quarter, it's a similar number of deals. They're up a little bit year over year, but the dollar value is what's so much greater. And I talked about it also through the lens of RFPs, which is obviously a subset of that pipeline. Not only is the RFP volume up, David talked about getting more chances at that as these marketing clouds come up, but the value of those deals is getting bigger. And as you pointed out, yes, it's more use cases. Yes, it's more channels. But it's a bigger opportunity to take out parts of their marketing stack than we were getting before. That's ultimately what's driving it. And, you know, obviously we're not shy about starting with pilots, but we equally love starting bigger. And, you know, we continue to see the deal sizes getting bigger, sales productivity stats, and our ability to execute on that pipeline is also meeting our expectations and in many areas exceeding it.

Thank you. Thank you, Jason. Operator, next question, please.

Our next call comes from Zach Cummings of B Reilly Securities. Please go ahead.

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. David, the first question for me is just really around your CDP Plus product. I mean, it seems like that's really a great opportunity to really drive momentum within that product line. So I'm just curious of the go-to-market function and how you're looking to really drive adoption there.

Thanks, Zach. And listen, CDP Plus sits at the core of every single conversation we have with existing and potentially new customers. And the ability to bring together all of an enterprise's disparate data sets into one data ecosystem, and then allow them to append and add hundreds if not thousands of fields of incremental data from the Zeta Data Cloud really begins to change the game as they think about, first and foremost, what is the difference between a marketing signal and what is the difference between just noise? And what we're doing is we're synthesizing through our artificial intelligence what signals are really relevant on their customer base to make sure that they can lower their churn rates and keep their customers as long as possible? What other products do they have in their arsenal that they should be selling to their existing customer set that they're actively researching for? And then third, how do we take the 240 million plus people in the United States who have opted in to our data cloud and help extend that to help them add new customers? All of that sits in the center with the CDP+. And quite frankly, we win well over half the engagements we go after in this category. It's when people see what the CDP plus can do, they are generally blown away. And for us, it's also in many ways a Trojan horse. How do we get into the enterprise? They start learning all of this incredible stuff about their consumer. One of the things I think most people don't understand is once they learn everything about that individual, they cannot activate to them unless they use the Zeta Marketing Cloud because everything synthesizes to the Zeta ID. That Zeta ID does not allow them to identify that individual outside of the Zeta Marketing Platform. So, It's one of the reasons we talk about the sales motion, which Chris does so eloquently, where you start with a pilot and then you grow. Once again, if you look at the 48 scaled customers we added this year, call it two-thirds of them started small and then grew. And that is really a very, very powerful thing. And the CDP Plus is mission critical to that.

Great. That's very helpful. And just one quick follow-up for Chris. Really appreciate the free cash flow guidance that's given for the Zeta 2025 target. When you're thinking about excess free cash flow, I mean, how are you thinking about allocating that to debt pay down versus stock buybacks versus maybe even incremental M&A?

Yeah. I mean, The beauty of having a long-term plan in place is that not only do we have quarterly gates that each of our business units make their way through, it releases funds. The same applies for multi-years out. Debt is becoming much more expensive today, obviously, than it was a year ago, so it's very topical and on our brain. We'll continue to do small tuck-in deals, as has been our legacy history. But otherwise, we're going to continue to be very disciplined on an investment rigor that we've had.

David? And by the way, you could see us, as we do some of these tuck-ins, use a higher percentage cash than we have in the past, where we feel like we're getting far more leverage in a business that we can tuck in and grow dramatically. But we'll make those decisions as we continue to go. And listen, the more cash we generate, the more flexibility we have as a company, the Cash flow has been a key metric to us internally for many years. As we look at the current market landscape, we thought adding an additional metric to Zeta 2025 made prudent sense, where we believe at least 55% of our EBITDA by 2025 will convert to free cash flow. And to put it in perspective, we could pay down 100% of our debt in 2025 and 2024 from the proposed cash flow that we're currently forecasting. But our net debt continues to be pretty low as a company.

Thank you, Zach. Operator, next question, please.

Our next question comes from Ryan McWilliams of Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks for taking the question. Are you seeing any differences to start this year versus how Q4 ended? And any changes in customer interest across your acquire, grow, and retain use cases?

Well, just to answer your first question, you know, we traditionally see a seasonally slower quarter in the first quarter from the fourth quarter, and that is reflected in our guidance, even though we feel very comfortable with the guidance we put out. And like a lot of companies, we're trying to over-index on being conservative in the world today because, you know, there's a lot of turbulence going on. But the truth of the matter is, if you look at the last number of years of this company, seasonally Q4 is very, very strong. And then you come into Q1 where you're resetting a little bit. But at the middle of our range, I believe we projected a 19% growth rate year over year for the first quarter and continue to feel like we've been conservative. Chris, do you want to answer the second question?

Yeah. In fact, on slide 17 on the earnings supplemental, you'll see that we laid out the three-year average revenue linearity and guidance by quarter. But to David's point, that's also where you see the seasonality show up. He asked about the use cases as well. And use cases, I mean, we mentioned all of them are growing double digits. Acquire and grow are growing the fastest, both at about equal rates above the company's growth rate. What was interesting is this was now the second quarter in a row where we've added many more scaled customers that are using more than one use case. We're now almost at 50. We're at 46, but that's a 39% improvement year over year. And that in the last quarter also grew in the 30s. So that's a big incremental opportunity for us. It's incremental Zeta 2025. All the ARPU expansion in Zeta 2025 modeled off of channel expansion. So our continued inroads here is only incremental upside. Next question.

Yeah.

With multiple more channels. You know, you guys got me interested in talking about the accelerating replacement opportunity for the legacy marketing clouds. I mean, this is a pretty big opportunity since you previously called out there's like 10,000 customers that could potentially be scaled data customers. Are these legacy marketing cloud customers typically on the contract length of like three years or five years? Just trying to get to like what the yearly opportunity could be off a $36 billion US PAMP.

They're almost all on three years. And you see effectively a third of them come up every year. The big question is how do we, and quite frankly, I think it's one of the things we did best last year, was how do we begin to get far more shots at the basket, right? So we've always said we close a disproportionate percentage of the RFPs or engagements we get invited to participate in. The big question was, how did we grow that number at the top of the funnel? So what did we do? We've built a whole new sales motion with a great team focused on lead generation. We were named, we are in the far right-hand upper corner of the Forrester Report for marketing automation companies. We were named top five in the world by multiple sources for CDPs. Zeta Live was an absolute blowout with over 7,000 attendees, either in person or online. And we look forward to seeing everybody again this year. We just sent out the save the date. And that has materially increased the number of RFPs we're seeing, which allows us to get more bites at the apple. So if you think of them as three-year contracts, you're talking about every year about 33% come up.

Thanks, Ryan. Operator, next question.

Our next question comes from Ryan McDonald of Needham. Please go ahead.

Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on an excellent quarter and fiscal year. David, first for you, you talked about in one of your earlier responses that two-thirds of the deals of the 48 new customers you added this year started small and grew. given this larger opportunity for multi-product consolidation do you feel like you need to change the way you go to market at all to win some of these larger deals on the initial land and do you have you started to see any potential gaps or or natural adjacencies you can expand to with the product portfolio to maybe capture more share on these consolidations right and that is not to suggest the other questions weren't great but that's a really good question and

I think Chris even hinted at the size and scale of the deals we're seeing coming out of the gate are substantially larger than we've ever seen before. We are often now going to market with Fortune 1000 companies for the whole shebang, where they're moving massive dollars in one fell swoop. and I think I pointed out the one retailer who signed a five-year contract with us, that's not something that would have happened a few years ago, right? So I think in order to go to market, what we've seen is with the turbulence that a number of the large legacy marketing clouds are having, we've been able to steal, but I shouldn't say that, a number of their very senior salespeople have left those organizations, and then we have been able to hire them shortly thereafter. So we're not just bringing in more salespeople, we're bringing in senior salespeople coming out of these marketing clouds who have made these very large sales, and they're building a go-to-market strategy that in many cases is sort of All of it versus a very small part.

That's really helpful. Maybe as a follow up for Chris. Chris, you mentioned in terms of the incremental leverage that you're going to see this year, that it's going to come more from at the OpEx level than at the gross margin level. Is that being driven at all by sort of a continuation of maybe more of this mid-70s mix of direct platform? And if so, what's driving, I guess, maybe that next shift that's going to remain in the mid-70s versus, you know, you put up a couple of, I think, high 70s to 80% quarters? Thanks.

Yeah, it's not as much that, Ryan. It was more reflection that we are significantly ahead in terms of what we should be reducing our cost of revenue by. Our model says 60 points a year. Last year, for the full year, we reduced it by 170 bps. So we're ahead. I think the second part is we wanted to add a layer of conservatism in the middle of the P&L just like we have at the top part of the P&L. Not to say that, you know, it just gives us flexibility, frankly. And then third, it's really more a reflection of the investments we made, particularly in sales and marketing, adding multiple CROs. David talked about adding mechanisms and infrastructure around marketing. We don't need to make those same investments this year, so there's just going to be some natural leverage as we wrap around on those investments. But it's more around conservatism and leaving ourselves flexibility.

Thank you, Ryan. Operator, next question, please.

Our next question comes from Elizabeth Porter of Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. This is Chris Quintero on for Elizabeth. I wanted to better understand the reduction in the super-scaled customers. I know it was primarily due to them falling below that spend threshold, but just curious kind of where that reduction was. Was it more kind of on the activation media passenger side, or was it on the more kind of subscription side?

It was usage driven and it was, it was, you know, frustratingly I say, because it was, it literally fell right at that cutoff point. None of them left. Uh, they're all now hanging around the hoop at that high 900 K level and wouldn't be surprised if they, if they jumped back in. So it was more fourth quarter usage driven. But I think the important point here is if you look at the ARPU of those customers, uh, super skilled ARPU grew 26%, super skilled revenue. As a contributor to overall Zeta's revenue grew 34%. And then even zooming out further, we've got a great slide in the supplemental that breaks out a cohort of those skilled customers and how long they've been with us. What's really exciting to see is those customers in the cohort of one year with Zeta to three years with Zeta, their average revenue went from 900K to 1.4 million in a year. So, you know, to David's point, we're not shy about getting in on pilots because we've proven over time the longer they stay with us, the bigger they become.

Thanks, Chris.

Our next question comes from Koji Ikeda of Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Hey, this is Natalie Howe on for Koji. Thanks for squeezing me in. I wanted to ask for a bit more clarity on the impact from political customers, if you could help us understand the contribution there. We were hoping to get a bit more granular in particular with the impact on Q4. Thank you.

Yep. Yep, so our guidance entering the quarter was for 4 million midterm candidate revenue, and it ended up being 4.5. So we did a little bit better, but it was right in line with our expectations.

Okay, thank you. And we did disclose... Oh, go ahead. Sorry.

I'm sorry. I was just going to say, we did disclose that. We think it's an important metric. We agree with you. So, you know, it was about 4.5 million of the 175. Okay.

Thank you. And then quick follow-up, you guys mentioned you're investing more on brand recognition. Should we expect increased expenses there? And is there any insight on the trajectory of that over this year and the next few years?

Yeah, well, so we did say that we expected to get material leverage out of SG&A this year. So that would imply that we will not be increasing material. overall expense as it relates to our sales marketing and general and administrative expenses, which brand building fits into. You know, quite frankly, we've just shifted budget from other places, and we've been very fortunate, right? Because over the last few years, we've materially lowered our cost of goods sold, which has given us more flexibility. I don't see us spending more money this year. I mean, you might spend a little more on an absolute dollar perspective, but I don't see the percentage going up on brand build. You know, the big thing last year was Zeta Live. We expect to do it again this year. The funny thing is Zeta Live was such an incredible success last year. A number of our partners have come to us and said, can we help sponsor this next year? Can we do a dinner? Can we host a session? So shockingly, we're now potentially going to lower the cost of building the brand for the company this while simultaneously hopefully growing Zeta Live even bigger than it's ever been.

Thank you, Natalie. Operator, we have time for one more question, please.

Our next question comes from DJ Hines of Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Hey, guys. Congrats on all the momentum. The story sounds great. Chris, one for you. the growth you're talking about in CTV. Is there anything we should be aware of from a margin profile standpoint as that revenue layers in?

No, nothing in particular. In fact, we've seen over the last several years the margin profile of that channel improve steadily.

And by the way, we've moved it so the vast majority of that is on platform, D.J., So we feel good about that because it's plugging into our device graph, which is now the largest device graph in the United States, and gives us a lot of flexibility as it relates to targeting, which leads to higher margin.

Did you have a follow-up, DJ?

This concludes the question and answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to David Steinberg for any closing remarks.

Well, spectacular quarter. I mean, it's hard to say anything other than that. We really delivered on every metric we expected to. We were able and feel like in an incredibly conservative way, we raised our guidance from where I think most people expected us to be. And we feel like we've got the right people, the right technology with our artificial intelligence and marketing platform. and the right data set to continue to win in the marketplace and more than exceed on our 2025 plan. More than anything, I want to thank all of our Zeta people. They have just worked tirelessly to deliver on the metrics that we have put out. And it is a team that really has come together and congealed in a way that makes me as the co-founder and CEO incredibly proud. Steve Gerber, Chris Greiner, Steve Vine, and their respective teams are, you know, I could go on and on with Chris Momberg and Nish Gore and Will Marguloff and just everybody who's really helping us to grow, build, and deliver on this business have just done an exceptional job. I hope everybody has a wonderful day, and I look forward to seeing everybody in person sometime soon. Bye.

This concludes today's conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating and have a pleasant day.