3/24/2021

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. I am Jota, your chorus call operator. Welcome and thank you for joining the AlphaBank conference call and live webcast to present and discuss the full year 2020 financial results. All participants will be in a listen-only mode and the conference is being recorded. The presentation will be followed by a question and answer session. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, you may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on your telephone. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Alphabank management. Gentlemen, you may now proceed.

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

Good afternoon, everyone, and good morning to those dialing in from the U.S. Welcome to Alphabank's full year 2020 earnings conference call. This is Vassilios Psaltis, Alphabank CEO, and I'm joined by Lazaros Papagarythalou, our Chief Financial Officer, Panagiotis Kapopoulos, our Chief Economist, and Dimitris Kostopoulos, Head of IR. Before starting with our full year 2020 results, a short personal note for a figure that has made Alpha Bank what it is today. March 9th marked the passing of Yannis Kostopoulos, our honorary chairman and grandson of the founder of our bank, arguably the greatest banker in Greece from the mid-1970s onward. He was an exemplary and inspiring leader as well as a lifelong mentor for all of us who were blessed to know him and work with him. A true visionary when conceiving ideas and daring in their implementation. An optimist by nature and a pioneer in constant improvement and change. Human and accessible towards his associates, Yanis Kostopoulos was a role model in the fullest sense. All of us at Alphabank will miss him dearly and will honor his legacy for a bank that will continue to evolve and play a leading role in Greece. Starting now with our results presentation, we should recall that this has been an incredibly challenging year, full of uncertainties and unprecedented situations. However, our bank has swiftly adapted to this new reality, and we have been able to support both our customers and our employees while remaining very focused on making significant progress on our strategic goals, and in particular, on the implementation of our Project Galaxy. Due to the pandemic, and the containment measures it has necessitated, the Greek economy experienced a historic recession, driven by a negative external demand shock, mainly because of the relatively high dependence on inbound tourism. This has been partially compensated by a fiscal policy stimulus of 27 billion so far. The policy measures taken by the government support employment, disposable income, and liquidity of businesses, offering much-needed briefing space to firms. This is already reflected in the sizable increase of private sector deposits of $20 billion during 2020, compared to only $8.8 billion in 2019, which means that the Greek private sector has the ability to gradually restore and serve its obligations. 2021 is expected to be a challenging year. We expect GDP growth in Greece of around 4%, driven by, firstly, the base effects in accommodation, food services and retail trade from the second quarter onwards, subject to the speed and efficiency of the vaccinations, not just in Greece, but also in the countries of origin of inbound tourist flows. Secondly, the recovery and resilience facility, which may prove a solid foundation for strong upside, as Greece is expected to receive around 5.5 billion from the next generation during 2021. according to the government's budget, whereby it is expected that the RRF will be activated in the second half of this year. Turning to page four, we note the key highlights of our full year 2020 results. Despite the challenges, we managed to deliver significant milestones for AlphaTAC. The continued focus throughout 2020 on our efforts to deliver Project Galaxy has allowed us to enter into a definitive agreement with Davidson Kempner over our 10.8 billion securitization portfolio, alongside the sale of an 80% stake in Cepalo. This will allow the bank to massively reduce its NPE and NPN ratios increase to 24% and 13% respectively. Transaction closing is targeted within the second quarter of this year. This transformational transaction, alongside our upcoming hive down process, set the scene for additional actions on the NPE resolution fund, while allowing redeployment of management focus and resources to continue rebuilding our banking franchise. In business development terms, 2020 was also an important year, as in December, we entered into a long-term bank assurance partnership with Generali, which will be a key enabler for the acceleration of bank assurance ambitions going forward. In parallel, we capitalized on the pandemic to push ahead with our digital transformation, minimizing physical financial transactions and launching a series of innovative products, including a retail customer onboarding process. 2020 was also a record year in terms of new disbursements to our customers on the back of government-sponsored programs and our commitment to support the Greek economy. Notwithstanding the pandemic, our financial performance was solid in 2020 with positive trends observed in loan and deposit volume growth, PPI generation, and capital adequacy. We achieved a 3.4% year-on-year increase in our corporate provision income generation while also recording trading gains of $690 million for the year, which has allowed flexibility to increase improvements to account for further NPE initiatives. Total pre-provision income of $1.4 billion allowed us to comfortably absorb impairments for loans of $1.3 billion, of which $283 million, which makes circa 22%, are COVID-related, while another $320 million related to our planned MPE transactions in 2021. As a result, group MPE cash coverage increased to 50% for Formula for Galaxy from 45% last quarter whilst our total capital ratio stands strong at 18.4% at the end of December 2020, or 16.9% for Formula 4 Galaxy and the bank's successful tier 2 issuance of $500 million in March this year. We are undoubtedly entering 2021, which is a stressed year, with a very strong capital position, which allows us to take a balanced approach on further NPD leveraging through a series of transactions amounting to 3.3 billion in Greece and Cyprus. Our capital advantage, even after the delivery of Galaxy, provides us with additional flexibilities on the NPE resolution fund, whilst remaining within our stated management targets. Moving on to page five. Here we're summarizing the key financial metrics for 2020 that show the strong financial performance as mentioned before. Despite the challenging environment, we reported an increase in operating income of 12% year-on-year, reaching $2.6 billion in 2020, which was driven by strong operating trends but also by a positive trading line of $690 million. We continue to deliver on our commitment to optimize operating expenses by reducing costs by 4% year-on-year, reaching $1.42 billion, while also improving our cost-to-income ratio from 57% in 2019 to 55% in 2020. On capital adequacy, our total capital ratio stood at 18.4% in December 2020, which is 50 basis points higher than last year. Project Galaxy allowed us to report a significant improvement in the group's MPEs ratio, which is now down to 26% versus 45% last year. In parallel, we also reported a significant improvement in the group's MPE coverage to 50% versus 44% in the year before. Let's now move to page 6, and here we draw your attention to our improved commercial performance within the year. where we supported the economy by fueling liquidity through 5.6 billion of new disbursements primarily to businesses, including government-sponsored programs of 1.4 billion, which carry a higher return on allocated capital due to their lower risk-weighted asset density. As a result, our performing loans, post-repayments and amortization have increased in the year by 1.3 billion, contributing positively to our net banking income. On the deposit side, we recorded strong inflows of 3.5 billion deposits on a group basis, with a notable shift from term to core deposits. Our digital transformation has continued and was further accelerated due to the pandemic, allowing for greater efficiency gains going forward. Currently, 92% of financial transactions are taking place through digital channels, while mobile users and digital wallets reported very significant increases within the year. We have also launched a simple and intuitive mobile-only retail customer onboarding process, allowing new customers to open an account, get a debit card, and subscribe to eBanking in a matter of minutes through my AlphaBank mobile, the bank's mobile banking app, without requiring physical presence. Furthermore, in 2020, we forged a new long-term relationship with Generali, whereby Alphabank will earn significant bank assurance fees over the next 20 years. Alphabank is targeting a significant increase in annual premiums and corresponding commissions in the lifetime of the new partnerships, also creating further value for performance earners agreed with Generali. Now, on page seven, let's have a quick recap on Project Galaxy. a landmark transaction for Alphabank in terms of asset quality improvement and testament to the success of the Hellenic Asset Protection Scheme program, which is now in the process of being expanded by another $12 billion of guarantees. In February this year, we entered into definitive agreements with Davidson Kempner in respect of the $10.8 billion Galaxy portfolio and the sale of 80% in Sepal Holdings with a transaction expected to close in the second quarter. Davidson Kempner, will acquire 51% of mezzanine and junior nodes, whilst we will retain 49% of those before subsequently distributing 44% to our shareholders in the second half of 2021, subject to corporate and regulatory approvals. We have also entered into a long-term servicing agreement with New Sepal with a 13-year term for the management of our existing retail and wholesale NPEs that will remain on our balance sheet after Galaxy closing, as well as as any future MPE flows. CEPAL is also supporting the bank in forming its post-Galaxy MPE strategy, which will be submitted subsequently to the SSM. The CEPAL platform, coupled with the Hive Down we are currently concluding, will provide us with an enlarged set of flexibilities to allow for an even more effective business plan execution. Let's move on now to page 9 and go over an NPE reduction in 2021 focusing on Greece. We expect to fully absorb any organic formation for the year on the back of moratoria defaults with planned NPE transaction of circa 3 billion. As already discussed in our introduction, we have taken up front more than 85% of the capital impact of these transactions, which comprise of both securitization under the Atlantic Asset Protection Scheme, and portfolio sales, naming projects Cosmos and Orbit. We have come a long way since 2017, having delivered nearly 5.5 billion average NPE reduction per year, or more than 16 billion in total. Including our planned transaction for this year, we will have delivered 75% NPE decrease within four years, while also targeting the older vintages. This is another step forward towards our target of a single-digit NPE percent increase. At the same time, we'll retain our flexibility to potentially upsize the ambition for inorganic NPE reduction on the back of our superior capital position and continuously declining costs for the asset protection scheme. On the next page, page 10, let us go through the expected evolution of our capital position. Our full year 2020 total capital ratio stands at 18.4%, having already absorbed the greatest part of the cost of our planned 2021 NPE transactions. Performa for Galaxy ended 500 million tier 2 issuance in March this year, our total capital ratio stands at 16.9% and our core equity tier 1 ratio at 14.3% respectively. We anticipate this year's organic capital generation mainly comprised of the pre-tax profit and a synthetic securitization transaction planned for the second quarter to fully offset the FRS 9 phasing and the RWA growth from business expansion. At the same time, We will absorb the residual cost of the MPE transactions, calculate at incrementally another 10 basis points, and remain within the range of our stated management capital targets with an estimated year-end cut ratio of circa 16.8%. The total costs for our 2021 MPE transactions is expected to amount to 65 to 70 basis points overall, or circa 20 basis points for every billion of the leveraging. On page 11 now, a brief overview of the NPE transactions we're planning on executing this year. Project Cosmos is a 2 billion granular multi-asset hub secure utilization in Greece to be launched in the first half of this year. It is mainly secured with a strong mortgage presence. Project Orbit is a 900 million consumer unsecured portfolio in Greece to be executed within this year as a straight Unitrans securitization sale. And then finally, Project Sky is a 400 million mixed secured portfolio in Cyprus, equally represented by mortgages and SME exposures to be sold as a whole long portfolio sale. Turning to page 12, you can see that Alphabank has had a consistent track record of negative NP formation for the last three years, including 2020. However, for 2021, and given the pressure stemming from a troublesome last year, we expect to see a positive net NP formation of 300 billion increase, excluding the impact of the transactions. Increased new NP inflows for this year are particularly driven by the expiration of moratoria that were in effect during 2020. We do, however, expect a significant part of this inflow to be offset by organic outflows, mainly driven by curings and repayments, but also solutions that will be including debt forgiveness as we continue the restructuring effort on the remaining book. At the chart on the right-hand side of the page, we present a breakdown for the performing moratorium of $5.5 billion, which we granted within last year. We expect that by the end of 2021, circa 80% of these exposures will remain in performing stages, partially supported by the EFEA program, as well as new step-up products offered to customers facing temporary difficulties. However, we expect nearly 20% of these exposures to ultimately default.

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

Let's now move on the financial performance analysis. This is Lazarus. Good afternoon. Let's start on page 15 with a summary of the key financial trends. We can see the top part of the page that despite the challenges brought by the COVID-19 outbreak in 2020, our co-operating profitability improved. with core pre-provision income up by 3.4% year-on-year to $859 million, driven by resilient core revenues and improved operational efficiencies. Reported pre-provision income in 2020 was up by 25% year-on-year and stood at $1.434 billion, supported by high trading gains. More specifically, Within the last quarter of the year, Alphabank recorded a strong trading line of $430 million, driven by realized gains from the GGB's portfolio and benefiting from a GGB swap with a grid state completed in December 2020, which resulted in a gain of $171 million. In 2020, total trading income reached $690 million. versus 410 in 2019. Going forward, the closing of Galaxy within the second quarter of 2020 is expected to temporarily rebase the bank's core pre-provision income towards the 800 million level, or a high single-digit decrease versus 2020. Coming back to 2020 performance, let's see in more detail the drivers of improved profitability during the fourth quarter. Net interest income stood at $388 million, up by 1.6% quarter-on-quarter, mainly on the back of the following barriers. First, we had a higher contribution from the asset side by $5.1 million, driven by higher average balances on the back of increased business loan disbursements, alongside improved lending spreads affected by the market rate movement. Second, We had 3 million negative impact from the liability side as increased deposit balances and more negative market rates were only partially offset by lower deposit rates. And finally, we had a positive effect on bonds and other items of 4.1 million. Looking at year-on-year trends, net interest income was resilient, almost flattest, at 1,542,000,000. This was a result of improved funding costs, mainly stemming from the substitution of interbank repos with Euro system funding at lower rates, which fully counterbalanced loan NII erosion due to spread pressure. This is in line with our guidance given earlier in 2020 for a flattest NII in the year. Net commission and fees in the fourth quarter 2020 stood at $83.8 million, down by 1.2% compared to the third quarter, primarily as a result of weaker performance in the card business with lower transactions due to the lockdown. This was partially offset by higher loan commissions following increased disbursements and increased fee generation from asset management. Fees on a yearly basis went down by 1.4% to $355 million, primarily reflecting decreased regeneration from commercial banking activities due to lower volume of transactions amid the pandemic and partially offset by an enhanced contribution of asset management and bank assurance. This was an even better performance than the minus 2% we guided back in November 2019. We expect fees and commissions to significantly increase by a high single-digit number in 2021, reversing the 2020 trend as COVID-19 eases. The increase will be fueled by work management fees, the insurance, as well as car fee income from the revival of tourism. Going forward in 2021, we expect net banking income to trend lower by circa 5% to 6%, driven by lower NII and higher fees. In the net interest income line, we expect a high single-digit reduction as a result of the Galaxy securitization to be recorded within the second quarter of the year. This will be partially counterbalanced by the positive contribution of the liability side stemming from the TRTRO benefit. Higher fees and other income are targeted to compensate for circa 30% of the NII loss while recurring cost savings will also offset an extra 15% of NII loss in the year. On the OPEC side, in 2020 year, recurring operating expenses for the group continue to decline, down by 3.6% year-on-year to $1.42 billion within our guidance and primarily because of lower staff costs. due to headcount reduction and reduced general expenses. As a result, the corresponding cost-to-income ratio declined to 55% versus 57%. Last year, we have recorded improving operational efficiency. In Greece, recurring operating expenses declined by almost 4% to 834 million, Whereas excluding expenses related to CEPAL acquisition during the summer, operating expenses in Greece declined by 6%. In the last two years, we have focused on the optimization and the configuration of our platform. So our branches in Greece, at the end of December 2020, declined by 107 units to 336, and our employees were reduced by 1,477 to 6,316 employees in Greece. 2021 is the first year of the new MPE servicing agreement with Cefal and Duval in Cyprus, following the MPL units carve-outs in Greece and Cyprus. In 2021, we target further cost reduction of approximately 2%, bringing the group recurring cost base to approximately 1 billion euros. If we turn now to page 16, we see that our strong pre-provision income generation, including trading gains of 690 million, stemming mainly from our GGB portfolio, allowed for the absorption of increased yearly provisions of 1.3 billion versus 995 million in 2019. Impacted by impairments due to COVID-19, of $283 million and impairments related to anticipated portfolio transactions of $320 million, as we will see later on, resulting in a positive bottom line with profit after tax at $104 million for the year. Apart from the profitability line, let us highlight here that the year ended with higher coverage in capital levels, as shown on the right-hand side. providing us with a good head start to pursue further NP reduction initiatives in 2021 as described earlier. Now, moving on to page 16 for the capital ratios, you can see that our common equity tier 1 stood at $7.8 billion as of December 2020. resulting in a common equity tier 1 of 17.3%, up by 10 basis points quarter-on-quarter, as a negative impact from quarterly profitability and the decrease of fair value for OCI reserves, were more than offset by a reduction in risk-weighted assets and implementation of the ACB's proposed CRR quick-fix amendments. The groups fully loaded Basel III Common Equity Tier 1 was up quarter-on-quarter by 18 basis points to 14.8%. Total capital ratio came to 18.4% at the end of 2020, providing a buffer of more than €2 billion over our overall capital requirement of 14%. Total capital adequacy remained strong at 16.9%, following the bank's successful Tier 2 issuance completed in March 2021 and taking into account the Galaxy impact of 280 basis points. Our strong capital position provides flexibility to execute further NP reduction initiatives while still maintaining comfortable buffers as the balance sheet of the bank normalized. The group's fully loaded Basel III total capital ratio stood at 16% at the end of December. Lastly, let me note that our GGV's portfolio currently stands at 4.8 billion euros, with the majority now being booked in amortized costs rather than fair value for OCI, as used to be the case. Greek government bonds and realized gains came to 200 million at the pre-tax level. You can also see at the bottom right part of the page that the yearly trading gains of 690 million are mostly comprised from gains from our GGB's portfolio. Moving on to page 17 on liquidity and funding. As you can see on the top left chart, private sector deposits increased by $2.1 billion to $43.8 in the fourth quarter, with core deposits from corporates accounting for the majority of inflows. The total deposit inflows for the year on a group basis were $3.5 billion. It is worth adding, as depicted in the chart below, that following similar trends in previous quarters of 2020, the rebalancing in the mix of deposits from time to core deposits persisted in the fourth quarter as well. Our Euro system funding remained stable at 11.9 billion at the end of December 2020, reflecting full utilization of our PNPRO borrowing allowance. Currently, 17% of the balance sheet is funded via the European Central Bank, resulting in a blended funding cost of minus 14 basis points for the entire balance sheet. As far as the liquidity ratios are concerned, a notable improvement has occurred in the past 12 months with our LCR standing at 151% as of December, whilst the loan-to-deposit ratio decreased further to 90% for the group. Moving on to page 18. Non-performing exporter balances in Greece reduced by 28 million during the fourth quarter of the year, bringing the total stock down to 18.3 at the end of 2020. Looking more specifically at growth formation in Greece, entries slightly increased in the fourth quarter to about 440 million euro due to imposed restrictions and moratorium offerings following EBA guidelines while exit stood at $470 million, mainly on the back of higher curings and repayments coming from the portfolio not included in the moratorium perimeter. As shown on the right-hand side of the slide, gross formation in wholesale posted a positive evolution, whereas retail continued to report a negative formation. Non-performing exposure formation in 2021 is expected to turn positive by $300 million, on inflows to moratoria, partly counterbalanced by curings and remedial management actions. Now moving on to our last slide, page 19. We provide the evolution of cost of risk on a quarterly basis, along with a breakdown analysis of the COVID-related impairments for the period. In the fourth quarter, impairment losses on loans stood at $569 million. including 320 million impairments related to forthcoming NPE portfolio sales. This resulted to a significant increase of the group coverage levels, shown on the top right, with group cash coverage having increased to 50% for NPEs and 85% for NPLs for Forma for Galaxy, while total NPL coverage, including collateral, stood at 127%. In the lower part of the page, you will note the breakdown of our full year impairment losses between core and non-core loans. With non-core, we refer to our exposures sold or expected to be sold under securitization and portfolio transactions, whereas core loans relate to both performing and non-performing exposures, excluding, of course, the transactions. You will note that the underlying cost of risk for the core portfolio is circa 100 basis points. COVID-related impairments further increased cost of risk by 70 basis points, and the remaining provisions of 170 basis points for the year were allocated to portfolio sale perimeters, out of which almost half in the fourth quarter of the year. Now, let's open the floor to questions.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star followed by one on their telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, then you may press star and two. Please use your hands when asking your question for better quality. Anyone who has a question may press star and one at this time. One moment for the first question, please. The first question comes from the line of Floriani Jonas with Axia Ventures. Please go ahead.

speaker
Floriani Jonas
Analyst, Axia Ventures

Hi, Tim. Good evening, everyone. Thanks for the presentation and well done on the progress achieved in 2020. My first question is on capital and issuances going forward. As you show on slide 10, it looks like your capital position looks still very solid even after the new announced securitization and already including the recent tier two as well. uh there's not much mentioned to the 81 so i'm just wondering how are you planning to to play that that card that you'll be able to improve your total capital as well going forward what is the strategy around uh the 81 part and also link to the issuances i was just wondering what is the plan on the mrel issues if you're planning anything for this year and if you have any projected impact to NII now for the next one or two years you also could share. Then my second question is on your trading gains you showed on slide 16. I take that 300 million is the number you had in December. So I'm just wondering if you have an up-to-date figure to share. I assume that you'd have booked part of those gains already in Q1, so just confirm if that's the case or not. And then finally on the new securitization, I think that the numbers you present kind of suggest that the cost of the equity and the capital from the new disposals, they are much lower even on a relative basis compared to Galaxy or the other Greek transactions we've seen so far. So I'm just wondering if you could just... talk a bit about the characteristics. I think there is a lot maybe to do with the mix of the portfolios, given that the biggest one is a majority of mortgages. But also, I suspect that it kind of reflects what you've been mentioning before, that your portfolio and your exposures after Galaxy would have a much improved profile in terms of restructuring, but also in terms of cost to to clean, let's put it this way. So, you know, if there's any call, you can chat on those. Future scrutizations will be helpful. Thanks.

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

Hi, Jonas. This is Lazarus. With regards to AQ1, which was your question, indeed, the bank has room to issue up to 800 million euro of AQ1 post-Galaxy. Currently, we have no plans to issue 81. You can see from the capital evolution, particularly 2021, that we can comfortably absorb the Galaxy impact as well as the impact of further transactions and still maintain the total capital adequacy ratio at 16.7%, which is above the management buffers that we want to have over the capital requirement of 14%. So we have, at the end of 2021, a buffer to the tune of 2.8% over overall capital requirements. So there's no need, really, to consider any further capital issues. Moreover, going forward, the plan provides for the maintenance of adequate capital buffers within internal capital generation means. So, again... AT1 is not in the cards. Having said that, we could consider in the medium term, in the future, a further optimization of the capital structure with a view to increase return on equity and put further leverage on the capital structure when the market conditions for us will be more opportune for issuance of AT1 at much more reasonable costs than we could have these days. So currently not in the cards. an option for the future, yes. Coming to MREL issuance, indeed we will be planning for senior preference issuance in the coming years starting in 2021. You should have in mind for 2021 a benchmark issue in similar sizes in the coming years. The guidance I have given for Net Interest Tinker for the year includes both the Tier 2, of course, that we have issued earlier this year, as well as a further issuance of senior preferred, a modular one. On your second question with regards to trading gains, mark-to-market of our portfolio in the fair value for OCI, currently it stands lower than 1%. 200 million euro pre-tax around the 150 million euro level.

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

On your remarks on the securitization, indeed the costs of visit-and-visit transaction comes in lower than Galaxy. The reason for that is twofold. Number one is that the HARPS fee currently, as you well know, which has been taken up from the market, gives a more favorable fee structure which gets embedded into the respective costs. And secondly, it is also the mix of the portfolio as well as the increased experience that we're having with using these instruments. Now, on a relative basis with other transactions, I would say that there is a rebasing towards the 20 basis points cost per billion. We have seen announced transactions which are a bit lower than that, but we do believe that for the HAPS 2, overall, we would be converging around these levels. So this is what I think the market should be expecting seeing as cost for these type of transactions over the next 12 to 18 months.

speaker
Floriani Jonas
Analyst, Axia Ventures

Thank you.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

The next question comes from the line of Sevim Mehmet with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

speaker
Sevim Mehmet
Analyst, JP Morgan

Hi, good evening and thanks very much for the presentation. I'll have a few questions, please, and I'll start with NPEs in 2021. So when I look at your guidance for net NPE formation, I see that is at around 300 million, which to me sounds like a positive, quite a positive statement. And I see on slide 12 that this assumes 1.7 billion of gross inflows in 2021. And it's a pretty similar figure to what we saw in 2020, to be honest. And, you know, despite all the moratoria, et cetera, that we had last year. So if you could maybe just talk a little more in detail about the dynamics here of where you would see those inflows and basically what part of it from moratoria and the underlying, that would be very helpful for me. And in terms of the remaining MPEs, Now, you've come a long way, obviously, since 2017 and also executed Galaxy without a delay. And I totally understand that the quality of the remaining book will improve meaningfully post-Galaxy. But, you know, when you look at the balance, it's still a $6 billion balance in Greece that you expect in 2021, which as a headline number still looks higher than some of the other peers. So I was just trying to understand that. your thinking here in terms of upsizing the securitization that you have using your very comfortable capital position. How's your thinking? And is there something that, you know, you're waiting, let's say is, you know, would you expect the 2020 environment to be better than now, et cetera? So if you could tell us any color, that would be very helpful, I think. Thanks very much.

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

Hi, I'm Ahmed. This is Lazarus. On your first question, regarding our projections for net organic formation, indeed, the bank projects inflows to the tune of 1.7 billion euro, out of which we project 1 billion to come out of those loans that have received moratoria in 2020. In this default rate, approximately at 20% or slightly less than 20% is our current estimate for such defaults. You will note that additional remedial actions and strategies are applied for this perimeter on page 12 on the right part of the page that if successfully applied on this perimeter, they will result to lower than 10% defaults on loans under moratoria. And then we have an additional €0.7 billion of defaults from the non-moratoria perimeter, with default rates comparable to the numbers that we have seen in previous years. On the sizing and the comparison with the previous years, you have to note that we're talking about a deterioration mainly coming from those loans which have been under moratoria and are currently accounted for to a large extent under stage 2. 67% of those loans in moratoria are already in stage 2 and inflows into stage 3 mainly will come almost by 90% or more than 90% from those loans that have been accounted for in stage three, in stage two, sorry. And to the extent that our macro scenarios and risk stresses that we have applied already in 2020 booking in 2020 cost of risk for COVID are confirmed, and it seems that the base case macro scenarios that we are facing here are better than the ones we have used in our fourth quarter accounts, then these inflows will not have any material impact on the provisioning line in 2021 because we have already built buffers. Then if you want to see how the net formation will trend, you need to take into consideration the fact that we have a consistent trend of exits from NPEs on the back of restructuring activity and a large pool of forborne NPEs that we have in our portfolio. This large pool of foreborn NPEs procure curings of loans that have been previously restructured. In this case, 2021 is going to be a particular year because we're going to face curings not just from restructurings that have happened in 2021, but also from restructurings that have happened in 2019. As in 2020, we'll have frozen curings to a good part of these loans. So some of these curings will take place in 2021. Also, we are continuing with CEPAL modifications and long-term restructurings with haircuts. So we expect a significant amount also to come from long restructurings with haircuts and a much smaller, obviously, volume from liquidations as we have currently a suspension of auctions. so the numbers there are not sizable. Whereas the 300 million net formation seems to be a positive number under the circumstances, on the other hand, it's a remarkable deterioration of the plans that we had in mind pre-COVID as we were expecting a much higher organic deleveraging out of our restructuring efforts for both 2020 and 2021.

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

As far as your second question is concerned, Ms. Vassilios, on the remaining MPEs, our stated targets for MPE deleveraging in Greece continues to be to achieve a single-digit MPE ratio at the end of 2022, which means that from the envisaged level at the end of 2021, that would be incrementally at the leveraging of roughly $2.5 billion. Now, in April, we're having the submission for the next three years for the MPE plan to a regulator. Therefore, we're currently contemplating how we're going to be faring over and above 2021. But the point I want to make is that even if we decide to go fully inorganically, this, given our capital position, and the cost estimates that, as we said, currently are prevailing in the market, we're talking about an aberration, given that our capital allows for flexibility, both in terms of sizing and timing of inorganic NPD leveraging.

speaker
Sevim Mehmet
Analyst, JP Morgan

That's very clear and very helpful. Thanks very much.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

The next question comes from the line of ThinkVJ with Tierra Capital. Please go ahead.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Hi. Thanks for taking our questions. The first question I had was looking at Galaxy and the senior trans size, as you have described, it does seem like the junior trans could come around to $2.3 billion or so with a very large mess. And what this would imply is that you're looking at probably getting rid of a tiny provision of MPEs, and the subsequent portfolio could be probably a lot better in quality. Is that a fair assumption? I mean, what sort of a portfolio would remain, I mean, what sort of an NPE portfolio remains post the Galaxy transaction versus what you get rid of in Galaxy?

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

I'm not sure I got the full question. The latter part was about the quality of the portfolio post Galaxy, which is depicted on page 9 of the presentation at 8.8 billion euros in Greece, with a good part of it representing for born NPEs, namely below 90 days past you, and the remaining almost 50% on NPLs. The transaction activity that you see for Cosmos and Orbit mainly comes out of the NPL space that stays back after Galaxy. This has been our focus so far on our deleveraging efforts. You will note that since December 17, out of 16.6 billion euro of non-performing loans above 90 days past due, we are ending up at 4.7, pro forma for Galaxy, and then we are taking more, 3 billion euro from the NPL space to drive the NPL ratio increase at around the 10% level.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay. And does the $3.5 billion NPE expectation for December 22 include the COVID overflows?

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

Yes, it does.

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ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay. And then in regards to, you know, the agreement with Generali, I mean, in a lot of cases, banks do tend to get some advanced fees with these agreements. And I'm wondering, is there a capacity or buffer available for to cushion any expected capital hit for the future securitizations with advance fee payments from Generali. Is that something that is possible or something you've considered?

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Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

The Generali transaction is not a capital measure for the bank. It's a very important commercial agreement to penetrate the insurance market increase, which is underpenetrated. There has not been an upfront consideration worth mentioning affecting our capital numbers. However, there have been arrangements for fees and earnouts throughout the 20 years period in order not just to align interests between the parties, but also to incentivize further sales and penetration. It's going to be an important income stream for the bank in the coming years, and we have optionality and flexibility to use this stream to boost our financial position.

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ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay. And then, I mean, you could possibly be looking at any front-loaded payments at all, or is it not a part of scope? You're not looking at it as a capital improvement measure.

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

Can you repeat the question? I didn't get it.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Sure. Could you be looking at any advanced payments or any upfront payments? Is that something that you've considered, you know, considering that you're going through a major cleanup exercise or you think it's probably not required? You're so comfortable with your capital buffers?

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

No upfront payments.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay. And in terms of the NP portfolio that remains of $3.5 billion, what would be the expected provision cover on these at the end of December 2022?

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

We have, at the end of December 2020, a 50% cash coverage.

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ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

No, I'm talking about post-securitizations when you get to your targeted level. What would be the provision cover on those that remain?

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

We expect cash coverage to remain at these levels by the end of the reporting period, the planning period.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay. And in terms of the NPE reduction plan that you're planning to submit, are there any regulatory restrictions on a certain level of cover that you need to maintain. Is that a part of scope? Or you would have pretty much fulfilled the requirements of going below 10%?

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

There is no instructed cash coverage levels.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay. And I see a significant difference. I mean, in terms of the NPE and NPL, you're talking about the inclusion of senior nodes. But these are state-guaranteed, right? So I'm just wondering what is causing the significant divergence between Is it just the duration or is there something else at play?

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

I'm not quite sure why you are referring to the difference between the MPEs and MPLs that we're having to the thickness of the senior or to the duration of the transaction. That we couldn't understand. Therefore, please rephrase your question.

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ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Sure. For example, let me just go back to your earlier slide. This is slide number, one second. Yeah, you're talking about, for example, slide, I can't see the number here, but you're talking about an NP ratio increase of about 52%. I mean, this was 2017, and the NP ratio was around 34%. The explanation given is that the basis for ratio includes the senior notes of the securitization. But I'm wondering if these are state-guaranteed instruments, then why is there such a significant divergence between the NPE ratio versus the NPL?

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

The divergence between the NPE and the NPL ratio has to do with the fact that NPEs include also restructured loans for more non-performing exposures below 90 days past due. And that's a pool from which we expect curings to happen because we're talking about paying customers who are in the corridor of getting cured. And that is the delta between NTEs and NPLs. Okay, perfect.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

One last question for me. In the context of what's going on in the sector, I mean, how do you see the current equity valuation of the bank? And I'm just wondering, do you see any set of circumstances under which you raise equity capital in the next two years? And is it possible that we get non-preemptive kind of a capital raise rather than a typical price issue. Could you comment on that, please?

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

Well, typically we do not comment on valuation. The only comment that we could make is with reference to the market reaction following the signing of our Galaxy transaction. where we see that gradually the market is indeed appreciating the significant improvement in our portfolio and also the fact that we are fully implementing our plan. As we have said before, we are continuing on working on a plan as far as potentially further accelerating our NPE plan. And along with that, we have also our transformation program So all that may be further things that we may want to communicate as soon as we have them ready.

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ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay, thank you. That's all from me.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

As a reminder, if you would like to ask a question, please press star and 1 on your telephone. The next question comes from the line of Boulogouris Alexandros with Wooden Co. Please go ahead.

speaker
Boulogouris Alexandros
Analyst, Wooden Co.

Yes, hello. Many thanks for the presentation. Just two very quick questions regarding the $320 million that was set aside in Q4 for portfolio sales. So the cosmos and orbit are fully covered by this amount. That's my first question. And my second question is regarding the The Cyprus business, I saw you announced an NPL sale of 400 million. Is there a plan for the remaining NPE stock in 2022? I mean, the target to reduce the NPE ratio to below 10% by the end of 2022 implies for the group as well, I assume.

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

Alex, it's Vasilis. As far as your first question is concerned, we have put on page 10 the respective impact on our capital position. There you can see that these 320 million, i.e. 60 basis points, they have been affecting our capital at the end of this year and then there are another 10 basis points in 2021 capital impact in order to have the completed cost as we said of roughly 70 basis points in terms of capital. That's point number one. Point number two, on the group target, this is something that we are still contemplating, and this is part and parcel of the exercise that we're currently moving. So on that front, yet we can't say more, but conceivably this is the direction of travel that you had described.

speaker
Boulogouris Alexandros
Analyst, Wooden Co.

Thank you.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

The next question comes from a line of Negro, Alberto with Mediobanca. Please go ahead.

speaker
Alberto Negro
Analyst, Mediobanca

Yes, thank you for taking my questions. The first one is on TLTRO. Are you planning to increase the amount of TLTRO or if you have already done it? And can you repeat the guidance on NII? I just missed it. And if this includes also the positive contribution coming from the TLTRO taken in 2019. And then can you share with us the MREL requirement and if you need to be compliant with by 2026. If you can give us a guidance also on the trading income for 2021 or you are booking some extra gains in the first quarter of 2021. And the last one is on restructuring costs. If you expect to book further restructuring costs in 2021 to fund the post-capital. Thank you so much.

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

As far as the TSTRO3 is concerned, indeed we have space for maybe one billion more. I'm not sure we're going to use in full. The guidance I have given for a high single-digit reduction of NII, assuming Galaxy is deconsolidated towards May from our portfolios, includes also the benefit that we're going to book in 2021 out of TLTRO. And the benefit we're going to include in 2021 includes both a retroactive amount that corresponds to the second half of 2020, approximately 25 million euros, plus an additional amount that corresponds to the entire 2021 year. So in total, we are expecting only out of TLTRO a boost of our NII by approximately 100 million euro for 2021. And coming to MREL, we cannot disclose both the indirect binding as the final targets. We're expecting to have the official communication from SRV in the coming weeks. You should expect to see that the phasing of our obligations to issue MREL goes up to 2026 and we are provided adequate time to tap the markets for benchmark issues. Of course, after many years of absence from the senior market, however, we see opportunities to start tapping the markets for senior preferred already in 2021. Now, with regards to trading income, there have been additional crystallization of gains in the first quarter of the year. I cannot give guidance for the entire year on trading gains, but already in the first quarter we are doing more. As far as restructuring costs are concerned, indeed the bank is under transformation. We are implementing an ambitious restructuring effort on both the Greek and international operations so that require restructuring costs and we are making also investments in IT and technology. Plus we have enveloped for voluntary exit schemes that have been used extensively in the last few years. So you may see additional restructuring costs already employed in 2021 to facilitate our business plan. Thank you so much. Depending on whether we will proceed to further actions on the GWIC franchise, we may see additional restructuring costs to the tune of the levels we had recorded in 2020. But this is not something to give guidance to. It really depends on whether and when we will kick start further actions.

speaker
Alberto Negro
Analyst, Mediobanca

Clear. Thank you.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

The next question comes from the line with Ambrosia Capital. Please go ahead.

speaker
Ambrosia Capital Analyst
Investment Analyst, Ambrosia Capital

Hello. Given your plans on or amended plans on the NPU reduction, Is it possible for you to give us an update on the evolution of cost of risk and return on tangible book over the next couple of years? Thanks.

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

When we announced last year our business plan, it was November 2019, we had the trajectory of getting to a cost of risk lower than 1% and this is still the target following a very significant leveraging of NPEs. Obviously, this is not for 2021, maybe not even for 2022. As far as 2021 is concerned, we will be guiding towards a cost of risk to the tune of 1.6% over net loans. And thereafter, the trajectory will go down 1% and lower than 1% in the coming couple of years.

speaker
Sevim Mehmet
Analyst, JP Morgan

Thank you.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

We have a follow-up question from the line of ThinkBJ with Piera Capital. Please go ahead.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Thanks, Jens. Just one follow-up. In the last presentation, you did talk about an 8.8 billion NPE had a 3 billion haircut. And I'm just wondering, does it mean that the exit prices for those NPs could be higher than, for these NPs could be higher than in the past transaction. Are you seeing a better market overall? If you could just give any market color, please.

speaker
Lazaros Papagarythalou
Chief Financial Officer

If I understood well your question, you're referring to the cost of doing more transactions, right? Yeah. And there was reference by Vassilios on the new transactions, Overall, almost 70 basis points for the 3.3 billion euros that we're going to transact in 2021, or 20 pips for a billion euro of portfolio sales. You have to appreciate that securitization under the asset protection scheme is a more capital-efficient strategy. way to dispose non-performing exposures as against outright sales. And the cost of 70 BIPs that we have presented here for the three transactions would have been lower if it was just a HAPS transaction. But here, out of the three transactions, two are going to be outright sales.

speaker
ThinkVJ
Analyst, Tierra Capital

Okay. Understood. That's very helpful. Thank you. That's all.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the conference over to management for any closing comments. Thank you.

speaker
Vassilios Psaltis
Chief Executive Officer

Thank you very much for taking the time to participate at our full year result presentation. We're looking forward to welcoming you on our first quarter results to be announced in May. Thank you very much.

speaker
Jota
Chorus Call Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, the conference is now concluded and you may disconnect your telephone. Thank you for calling and have a pleasant evening.

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