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Bonheur Asa
2/27/2025
Good morning, everybody, and welcome to the fourth quarter presentation for Bonner. My name is Annette Olsen, and I am the CEO of Bonner and Fred Olsen & Company. Today, as usual, our CFO, Richard Olavo, will start the presentation with an overview, and then the individual CEOs of our subsidiaries will then present. We'll have the Q&A session at the end. So, a hearty welcome. Richard?
Thank you, and also good morning from me, and welcome to this webcast. I should maybe start saying that this has been a special quarter. We have had several of our key assets out of revenue generating activities. I think most notably Braveturn and Bolturn. Braveturn been at yard and Bolturn in transit back from Taiwan. But also other assets have been out of operations. Despite this, we land the fourth quarter. solidly but also the full year very solidly and on the back of this solid performance and a strong position the board yesterday arrived at the proposal of a dividend of 6.75 per share which is a dividend growth of 12 and a half percent and represents several years with the consistent dividend growth of double digit showing the strength of the group I will not go into detail of each segment because that is covered by the various CEOs, but just some of the highlights, starting with renewable energy. I think the main event in the quarter was the FID of the Windy Standard 3 wind farm, which Sofia will cover in more detail. When it comes to operations, we have had downtime, significant downtime on Midhill and Crystal Rig 1. Midhill have been down the full quarter due to a transformer failure outside our control, and also significant downtime on Crystal Rig 1. That will be covered more in detail. On wind service, I think I already mentioned Brave Turn and Bolt Turn. That will be covered more in detail, what those vessels have done this quarter. But despite this, it's been a good quarter in wind service, where Blue Turn has operated well, and Global Wind Service and UWL also have operated quite well this quarter. When it comes to crews, we have had also there Balmoral in Dry Dock this quarter, a big undertaking of our oldest vessel. And fourth quarter is normally a weak quarter. Despite this underlying corrected for last year that we had the gain of sale of Bremer and the dry docking of Balmoral in this quarter, Cruise Line is improving year on year also in fourth quarter. And underlying for 24, Cruise Line has an improvement of approximately 100 million in operating performance. So Cruise Line is on the right track. it comes to other investments also an improvement there this quarter and also a strong improvement year over year and and this is driven by better performance in the media business of nhst and also finally we have brought the sas company my news desk finally into black black figures already mentioned the dividend of 675 per share and After that dividend, the equity in the parent company stands strong of 8.1 billion kroner, which is an equity share of 66.4%. Taking a little bit on the long-term view, as we know, are at the end of 24, how the year panned out and how this is in a longer-term perspective. We show these graphs first time in the third quarter presentation. And our intent is to repeat them because we think it's good to consistently look at how we are doing to develop the group of companies over the long term. And the trends we have seen the last years is also the same in this quarter. That our biggest revenue area now is the wind service segment with wind carrier, UWL and global wind service driving the revenue. Fred Olsen Renewable, even it's a lower generating, revenue generating unit, is still our biggest EBTA contributor. But this last 12 months, wind service is catching up and EBTA is now on par with renewables. And finally, Cruise Lines emerging back from COVID with two new vessels and now at a higher level. EBITDA level than pre-COVID. And that is the same for all the three assets we see in this graph. Pre-COVID, it was mainly EBITDA coming from renewable energy, renewable energy significantly higher than pre-COVID, and then wind service going from a very low EBITDA level. pre-COVID to a strong EBITDA post-COVID and also then cruise lines coming back up. So we have three, all the three segments are now delivering solid EBITDA and also knock on wood, the media business is finally also delivering a positive EBITDA. Then over to the consolidated summary. Fourth quarter, lower revenues than fourth quarter last year. That is basically due to Braveturn being at the art and Bolturn being in transit and utilization of Fovik has been less than 33% in the quarter. And that also translates into the EBITDA, which is 300 million lower this quarter than fourth quarter last year, related the same to the wind service, the two main vessels being out of the market. And then also 100 million related to cruise. And we looked 85 million on the sale of as a gain of sale of Bramar in fourth quarter 23, which, of course, is not repeated in fourth quarter 24. And then you have the dry docking, so small underlying improvement in cruise. Depreciation at the same level as last year. Then net finance came out quite positive this quarter, and especially compared to fourth quarter last year. These are really unrealized profit and loss on financial instruments, basically interest rate swaps and exchange rates. So they developed in the wrong direction in the fourth quarter 23 and developed in a very positive direction in fourth quarter 24. So the positive deviation year over year on net finance is approximately the same as the negative on EBITDA. So earnings before tax is at the same level. Slightly lower tax cost and then the net results is on the same level as the fourth quarter last year. Then EBITDA and revenue per segment, starting on the top with renewable on par. Prices, and Sophie will cover this more in detail, but prices are down in especially Sweden, a significant drop in Sweden, but holding up and actually increasing in the UK, which is the most important market. Also to note that we have booked insurance related to Mid-Hill, so the downtime on Mid-Hill has a very limited effect financially in the fourth quarter. Wind service, again, very strong in fourth quarter last year, but also strong on the revenue side in fourth quarter this year. Håkon Magne will cover this more in detail, but we have the termination fee with Ørsted that is covering the quarters where we would have had the contract. Then on the cruise segment, slightly down on revenues due to the dry docking. And then other slightly up. On EBITDA, renewable energy almost on par despite the operating issues. And also to be noted there that we booked 65 million on positive reversal of EGL in fourth quarter 23. So adjusted for that, the results are more or less on par. Wind service, we don't need to comment anymore. Håkon Mang will come back to how we booked the termination fee. And then cruise lines already covered and then the improvement on the other segment driving from NHST. Then taking also a step back on looking at the preliminary figures for 2024, this will be then final in our annual report. Again, if somebody had told us that they had the 23 with the declining energy prices, we would actually come out on the same EBTA in 24 as we did in 23. I would have a little hard time believing that. But that's where we ended up. Renewables is down year over year on the revenue and the EBITDA down 335 on the revenue and approximately the same on EBITDA, mainly due to lower power prices. While wind service is up 1.3 billion on revenues and up 225 million on 2024 and a record year again for the wind service segment. Cruise lines, stronger bookings, revenues up 335 and EBITDA up 19. But if you then correct for the 85 million sale of Bremer in 2023, EBITDA is up more than 100 million. And then the other segment, 87 million more revenue and 74 million less loss. Also, here we have all the overhead costs of Bonheur and so on. So a better performance in the media segment, meaning that we also then come out very close on revenue. on the EBITDA and then we have slightly higher depreciation so the EBIT is down 118 million and then you have some on the net finance pluses and minuses so actually the net result for 24 is slightly higher than 23. then on finally on the balance sheet and the capital allocation Taking the numbers first, we end the year quite good on the cash and the debt. We have delevered the group of companies quite significantly this year. So for the entities we control 100%, we end the year with a cash position close to 5.4 billion and external debt of 3.6 billion. So net cash debt of what we control 100% is positive 1.8 billion. Then where we have the significant debt in the joint ventures in the UK, I think things are more or less stable with a smaller cash position and external debt being amortized as we go and a net cash debt of minus 4.8%. Then on the wind service, where we have a blue turn, global wind service and UWL, also a significant deleverage in this year and now a net cash debt only over 295. So then over to the financial policy. And I think I'll just repeat the financial policy here because I think this is very important for the next slide. We have three pillars on the financial policy that's been in place now for several years. First and foremost, the financial and liquidity position of the company shall be strong. And the company, there we meet Bonheur ASA, where you find the line where we have 3.6 billion in cash and 3 billion in external debt and a net cash debt position of more than 400 million. So we can really check the box that the company is in a strong financial and liquidity position at the year end. Subsidiaries must optimize their non-recourse financing. None of the debt you see in the external debt in this column has any recourse to Bonheur or any cross-recourse within the group. So we fulfill this policy. Then we are fully aware that with these strong limitations that we will never expose the model company and that the subsidiary must find their own debt without guarantees from the model company. There is a strong obligation on us to find innovative financing sources for the subsidiaries. And I think at the end of 2024, I think we are in a good position there with several good joint ventures, industrial joint ventures. We have the fund in Whitstown, where we know we'll have two new wind farms being dropped into the fund. And of course, we are also evaluating, and we have been in the past, public markets and M&A. So this financial policy stands strong. Then we have thought a lot before this quarter how we should think about our dividend policy. We have had a dividend policy for many years. We had a discussion with our board how we can modernize our dividend policy more into a capital allocation framework. So what I'm going to present to you is the summary of this work and the framework we have now decided on. So first and foremost, the goal of this is that the combination of the financial policy that I took you through and the capital allocation framework is to make clear the company's priorities and make clear our ambition to create long-term shareholder value. So the shared financial policy is the foundation on this, and we will never compromise on the financial policy. And I don't have to repeat the bullet points in the financial policy. Those are the same as I had on the last page. But on top of the financial policy, we have the capital allocation framework and where the dividends must see in the context of the capital allocation framework. So again, the company's financial policy is the foundation. But on top of that, our key aim is to generate competitive long-term shareholder value through a combination of share appreciation and distribution to shareholders. And we have looked over the long term, we have looked at the S&P in the US, we have looked at the Oslo Stock Exchange and see over time that the very best companies, they have a solid combination of share appreciation and distributions to the shareholders. Some companies reinvest everything in the business if they can generate good returns and other companies that don't see the prospects of good returns, they distribute everything to the shareholders. I think we are long term here and we see that a combination of share appreciation and distribution to the shareholders is the aim we want to achieve on. But then it comes the key point on the capital allocation and the transparency the company wants to give with this policy is that when we are considering the balance between share appreciation and distribution to shareholders, We have then declared goal to allocate capital only to areas where the long-term value creation on a risk basis is considered attractive. That meaning if we cannot find value creation above what the market demands on us, we should rather pay the money out to the shareholders. But this also considering opportunities outside the current ownership holdings, which has been a key factor of a group of companies over many, many years that we have managed to innovate and transist the group from one area to others, like, for example, entering into renewable energy many years ago. So on the back of that, when the board is considering dividend proposals, The company board of directors then have to take into account companies' other capital allocation opportunities and measure that they can give a long-term value creation over about the cost of capital on a risk-adjusted basis, but always based on the financial policy. And I think on the back of this financial policy and the capital allocation framework, the board had a discussion yesterday and then arrived at the proposed dividend for 2024 of 6.75 per share, which is a dividend growth of 12.5%, and is now in line with several years of double-digit dividend growth. So I think that's ending my presentation, Onette.
Good. We will then move to the CEO presentations. And Sofia Olsen-Jepsen is next with Fred Olsen Renewables.
Thank you. So the highlights this quarter for Fred Olsen Renewables were first and foremost the investment decision that was made into Windy Standard 3. We also happily saw Midhill wind farm back in production after we've had this external transformer failure. And then we have had low availability in the quarter due to then Midhill that was operational only in January and Crystal Rig 1 and Högalid, other wind farms. we are, as a company, focusing on having a full cycle business model, as you see on this slide. And all our operational wind farms that are listed on the right, getting them to spin well. And then we now, as you see, have two wind farms under construction, which I will talk a bit more about later. We're very much focusing on developing our portfolio of technologies development projects, which is now of four gigawatts, and maturing that in a solid way to be able to move into the consented phase and then construction and to be viable and commercial projects. To go a bit back and look at the market, we have seen that there has been a low production of wind and hydro during the quarter, which has been balanced out then with increased production from gas and coal fire generation in Europe. We do see that storage levels are low. And that is being compensated by the mild climate at the moment, hence keeping prices moderate. We also do see a tight LNG market in Europe especially. And why are we concerned about the gas market and prices? I think you see that on the graph to the bottom left and how closely linked the European gas and power prices are. With regards to the prices, we do also see that they are sensitive to weather changes and temperature going forward. Also, the geopolitical landscape, which is now currently very much moving at the moment. So moving then on to production, we have seen that the generation was lower than the P50 estimate in the quarter due to the downtime at the Mid-Hill Wind Farm, also due to the downtime at Crystal Rig 1 Wind Farm. This is a wind farm with older turbines which have been challenging technically for a while, and especially this quarter, where we are very much focusing to rectify this and get them all back and running again. Then we've had challenges challenges on the Högalidden wind farm in Sweden, where we have seen an expected failure of main components and parts, which we are working closely with the turbine manufacturer to rectify, although the replacements of parts are pending due to lags in the supply chain. This has been then combined also with a high volume of curtailment in the quarter, which is influencing the production. Regarding Mid-Hill, this was, as mentioned, not generating due to a transformer failure at the external SSE substation. And we have booked the insurance claim of £11.4 million. in this quarter, because we do have a business interruption insurance on all of our wind farms. Then the most exciting news this quarter is the investment decision that has been made on the Windy Standard 3 wind farm. As you see from the dots on the map, it is a wind farm located in Dumfries and Galloway in southern Scotland. And it's adjacent to what we call the Windy Standard cluster, where we have two operational wind farms already. So the construction is commencing now in March 25th. and we expect completion by Q4 26. The capacity factor or expected yield will be 32%. And as you might remember, we won a contract for difference, which is a support scheme in the UK. We won that in summer last year. So the wind farm will be generating power under this contracts for difference for 15 years. It's also worth mentioning that the 20 turbine wind farm that this will be will then also provide access to surplus grid capacity, which will create a quantifiable benefit for the Windy Standard 1 repowering project when that comes along in not too long, which will then avoid significant costs and delays for that project. Additionally, this wind farm and the investment in it falls within the scope of the Wind Fund 1 or Wittsten Fund. And we will, in front of those renewables, commence then the pre-agreed drop-down procedure with Wind Fund 1 for them to enter into their 49% partnership of the projects. The investment, total investment of Windy Standard Tree is 133 million pounds. And it is an 88 megawatt wind farm. The other wind farm that we have under construction is Crystal Rig 4 in the Crystal Rig cluster, another cluster of wind farms that we have. The main message this quarter is that the construction is progressing well. We are amidst installing all of the anchor cages and also most of the tree felling has been done enough so that we have the area cleared for installing all the turbines in their locations. So we are very excited about the progress of this 11 turbine wind farm sites. To sum up, this quarter, we've had low availability in the quarter due to Midhill, Crystal Rig 1 and Högar Liden, as mentioned. We have seen a steep drop in power prices in Scandinavia, offset slightly by an increase in the U.K., We've made a final investment decision on Windy Standard 3, and also the construction of Crystal Rig 4 is progressing well.
Thank you. Next is Lars Bender, and he will present Fred Olsen's evening.
Yes, thank you, Anneli. I will give you an introduction to the Q4 for Fjallraven Seawind and I'll start with some good news from Q4. We achieved an important milestone with our Scottish project Muir Boar in Q4, where we submitted both the onshore and offshore consent application. This is a significant milestone for us. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of vessel deployment on site, a lot of data gathering in order to get to that milestone. So very well done by the team and an important milestone where we actually now are the first of the Scotland projects to submit the consent application, both onshore and offshore. So good news. If we then move in to this slide, which you've seen before, which is an overview of our core markets and core projects, I will come back to both Kotlin and Muobor in more detail, but I wanted to attach a few comments to Norway on this particular slide. In Q4, we made the decision, together with Havsland, not to bid and pursue Utianor. We will, however, continue to monitor the Norwegian market. We will, together with Hafsbond, jointly look at potential future opportunities in Norway. But for now, we will not pursue Utsiano. Moving on to Scotland and Miobor, as I said, we submitted the consent application in Q4. And to give you a bit of background into the process we're now looking into in Scotland, this means we will, during 2025, have close dialogue with the planning body in the UK around our application. We'll have to give more detailed information. And it's a process that can take everything from maybe 6 to 12 to 18 months, depending on the interactions. It's new ground, it's floating projects, so it's not the same as earlier with bottom fixed. So that also needs to be taken into consideration when assessing a consent application in the UK. Following consent award, the project will in principle be in position to bid into a future CFD auction. At the same time, we will progress and secure clarity on grid. And when we have both a final consent in hand and clarity on grid, we will be able to assess and bid into a CFD auction. So a lot of good work in 2024, but also a lot of work still ahead of near war in 2025 and the coming years. But at least securing the first milestone with consent has been important to progress and really maintain a good competitive position for our Scotland project. If we then move to Ireland, also 24 was a very much a focused consent year around coddling. We submitted the consent application in September, and that has been ongoing also in Q4 in relation to observations and will continue into 25 as well. In Q4, we also saw in general election in Ireland for the parliament, Generally, Ireland has been a country where there has been support across the large political parties for offshore wind. Now a new government is in place and it's our assessment that the stable support for offshore wind will continue also going forward. In century five, Kotlin will have focus around the consent, as I mentioned before, but also very much preparing the project for procurement processes on the back of consent determination. So there is a lot of work now preparing that because on the back of consent determination, we are in principle through the milestones we need to be and would be ready to later take FID on the project. But still a lot of work to be done. So I think overall and in general, a busy 24 and also a busy 25 when you look ahead, but also a very interesting year for Olsen Seawind. So with that, I'll leave the word back to you.
Thank you, Lars. And Per-Arvid Holt from Fred Olsen 1848 is going to talk about the developments in technology. So, Per.
Thank you, Anette. So if we can go directly to the station update slide, then we will zoom out a bit going into this. If you go to the next one, please. And even the next after that. Then we'll zoom out a bit looking at floating solar, but starting with solar in general. And then we'll end up giving a status on our development on our floating solar technology pre-solar. So if we go to the next slide, these are some graphs. The one we'll start with, the one to the left, which is from the report Renewables 2024 from the International Energy Agency. And for solar, it shows both the historic data up until 2024 and then a projection until 2030. And it shows some significant milestones when it comes to generation of electricity, so the actual product. In 2026, the IAEA expects that there will be more renewable electricity produced from solar panels than from wind turbines. And in 2029, they expect that there will be more renewable electricity produced from solar panels than from hydroelectric plants. And that growth is also supported on the graph to the right, which shows the added capacity in the last four years. And it also shows the domination of China, not only in the supply chain, but also in the installation. So so that is a significant growth. And if we go to the next slide, then I also added this one. This shows the growth of added capacity and it shows that the added capacity for until 2030, 80 percent of the added capacity is expected to be PV. And I added it because I think it's interesting that 40% of that added capacity is what they call distributed. So that's not utility. That is typical residential, commercial and industrial acreage that is utilized. So this is the backdrop for us focusing on solar. And this is a lot of solar panels. And we know that solar panels are area intensive. They do need a lot of area. And in that context, then floating solar is interesting for us. So as an example, on the next slide, I brought a picture from the Netherlands showing the Markermere behind the dikes in the Netherlands. I'm not saying by implying by this slide that there will be a utility scale development in Markermere. There are certainly at least some environmental regulations in the way of that right now. But it shows what kind of acreage a sea surface can or a water surface can provide compared to an onshore development. So if you look to the right in the picture, you will see five red squares, and that are five onshore commercial developments of solar neatly fitted into the agricultural and industrial landscape in the Netherlands, totalling at about 137 megapixels. So, of course, compared to that, the water surface on the right provides a huge available area. If you have a very huge available area of water, then the wind can make waves. And in this case, if you have a system that can handle those waves and be cost efficient, then that certainly gives you some potential. So on that note, the markets that we are looking at for our system BRISO, if you go to the next slide, are basically four. When it comes to the business case for solar applications, then it's two main drivers. It's the proximity to the equator and the number of days with clear skies in a year. that improves your business case so in the right markets we are for our system approaching utility scale competing with other energy sources another market is the displacement of hydrocarbons in island communities which is a better business case usually and the hybrid solutions with hydro is is also a good opportunity in areas where you have dry seasons especially And then finally, you have these special applications, and that's typically consumers which are without grid or have an insufficient grid where floating solar can provide a cost-efficient addition to their energy need. So finally, short status on the project itself. We last year completed a basic design phase, which has been important, and we're now entering a period where we are Doing validation and verification based much on our pilot that we have in the south of Norway, in Risø. And then we are, of course, hunting some and taking part in some specific processes for a commercially sized pilot for our system. So that's it.
Thank you. Thank you, Øystein. Håkon Magne-Ore. CEO of Red Olsen Wind Carriers, is next. And you have had a very busy quarter, Håkon Magne.
Thank you, Anette. I think, as Richard said, it has been a very special quarter for Fovik. For the last quarters, I was standing here talking about high uptime and stable operation on amber vessels. Last quarter, we meant that we will have some more planned yard stay, pent-up yard activity going forward. And that's what happened in this quarter. So I think if we start with the next slide, if you go on back. No. If you go back to the summary slide. Thank you. As I said, this quarter was stained by high yard activity and also transit, meaning that we only had one operational vessel. This is as planned. On the more positive note, we had a strong order intake this quarter, also doing a full year good order intake for the company. On the market, I think I just reiterate the comment that I had in the last quarter. We see there's limited vessel availability the next years. We see, however, that the general issues that the offshore wind industry and value chain are facing, it impacts the timing of the demand, which again creates a more dynamic and volatile phenomenon. Now, if you go to the next slide, Just briefly talking on the activity in the quarter. I think, as mentioned last quarter, we decided to take a bold turn back from the Taiwanese market, where she had been for four years due to a dip in activity in that market for the next years. And as we saw better opportunities in Europe. That transit takes around 70 days and it arrived late in the quarter in Europe, where it went straight into a planned yard stay to strengthen the aft to make a more generic sea fastening of the 15 megawatt setup to Siemens and Vestas. The vessel is now out of yard and is starting on project mobilization and will then commence its new contract late in this ongoing quarter. Brave Turn, I have to say, finally was delivered. Unfortunately, it was somewhat delayed from the major upgrade program. It then transited from Spain to Denmark to commence the mobilization for the energy project. It commenced the project late in early January. On the good side, yes, the project was delayed, but I think the vessel is working very well. So that is good. Blue Turn, it continued on Vesta's O&M campaign for the whole quarter. I think, as we also mentioned last quarter, that will now go into yard in February, or more or less these days, to then have some long-awaited maintenance after almost three years of consecutive work. BlueWin completed the Yunlin project demobilization this quarter, and it is preparing for the Heilong startup late this quarter. Going into the financials, of course, with only one vessel in operation, the utilization only came in at 33% this quarter due to the aforementioned reasons. As I said, Brave Turn left Spain in November, but due to mobilization phase and accounting rules, we did not book any revenues on that vessel in the quarter. So it's a quite modest EBITDA of 11 million this quarter. And on top of that, I think that EBITDA is impacted by how we book the termination fee of the previously announced termination of a major contract that was supposed to be done this year. So without that termination fee, I think EBITDA would have been closer to zero. And just to reiterate how we're actually booking this termination fee, the complication issue is that when we have an obligation to share part of the revenue with the original charter of the vessel as long as the original contract was supposed to have been going on. we will still book 100% of the revenue, but we have made a provision of the termination fee, so we have not booked the full termination fee. So when the vessel is not working, we will then book the previous provision to compensate that we haven't booked the termination fee. So I think we come back to it on the backlog, but I think the remaining provision left in the backlog is around at the same level that we booked this quarter. For the full year, the EBITDA came in at 116 million. That is a new record. And you also see the graph again. 2021 was a bad year for the industry, but we have had four good years with improvement in underlying earnings. And also just a little bit remind that the 2024 results was done with one lesson in yard for the whole period. Going over to my last slide and the backlog, as I said earlier, it was a good order intake this quarter that lifted the backlog to 448 million for our three owned vessels, up from 288 million last quarter. The main driver behind this was that the previously announced reservation agreement for Bono Vessel was turned into a firm contract. that will take the vessel from 2025 and potentially early into 2027. On the market, I can just reiterate what I said. I think there is very limited vessel capacity available the next years. But again, the uncertainty in the market from the value chain issues and the ongoing offshore wind issues gives some more uncertainty on the actual timing, both from delayed projects and also projects slipping to the right on the time scale. On the positive side, I think the tender activity remains at record high levels, both in terms of volumes, but also in terms of lead times. In other words, the different developers are increasingly looking to secure vessel capacity longer time ahead than what they did before. So I think that concludes my remark this time. And I'll leave it back to Anette. Good.
And Richard will now talk about Fred Olsen Cruise Lines.
Yes, thank you, Annette. So that will end the company presentations. So Cruise Lines, fourth quarter, it is a little bit of a repetition here. But we ended the quarter with an occupancy of 65% versus 71%. That is, of course, impacted by the Balmoral 17-day dry dock, but also a couple of cruises that didn't have the wanted occupancy. So strategically to drive the occupancy also going forward is very important for the cruise lines management, especially in the shoulder seasons, quarter one and quarter four. The yield was up this quarter. I think that is more an effect of the mix of cruises, more shorter cruises with higher yield than the longer cruises with lower yields. Strong bookings, I think on the same level as we had last quarter, that what we have taken in in 2024 going forward is 16% higher than it was in 2023. So, yeah, I don't think there's too much more to say about Cruise Lines.
The good thing is that the management in Cruise Lines is very energized. So hopefully we are going to see improvements when it comes to also the operation. So with that, we will open up for the Q&A session.
Thank you. To ask a question, you will need to press star 1 and 1 on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. To withdraw your question, please press star 1 and 1 again. We will now go to our first question. One moment, please. And your first question comes from the line of Daniel Howland from ABG Sundell Collier. Please go ahead.
Yeah, good morning, everyone. So I have a couple of questions. I think I'll just take them by the different business units. So if I can start on renewable energy, with the problems on Midhill and Crystal Rig, now you say that Midhill is back, but is there any timeline on Crystal Rig 1 and when the problems there might be fixed? That is the first question. And then I have a second question also on renewable energy. On the 161 revenue provision you did on the insurance claim from Ed Hill, was this fully taken in Q4? And I guess there is no cost related to this, so I just want to confirm, is it a positive 161 effect both on revenue and EBITDA?
So, 50%.
Thank you. I guess with respect to your first questions on operations, we are, of course, striving for operational excellence on all of our wind farms. And I can say with regards to Crystal Rig 1 that that is the highest focused area for us at the moment to get all of these turbines spinning again as soon as possible. With regards to your second question on the... insurance claim 11.4% was booked this quarter that is for the Q4 I think we expect to book a slightly higher sum also. Not a higher sum, but a slight number also for the few days that the wind farm was out in January. So there will also be some insurance claim coming in then. But I... We are under dialogue with the insurers about that at the moment. So I think I will leave it at that for now.
Okay, thank you. You say 11.4. Is that in pounds?
Yes.
And that was positive both on the revenue and EBITDA?
Should be.
Okay. Okay. Thank you. And then I had two more questions. One is on wind service. So I just wanted to double-check on the update on the vessels. I see you say that Bolturn is expected to commence a new contract in late Q1. So you basically say that that vessel has a low utilization in Q1 as well. I just wanted to double-check that. And then I have the last question on cruise. So given that you have a lower utilization year-over-year, but I also think you say that booking numbers are quite decent. I just wanted to clarify, when you say the utilization number for cruise, is that adjusted for the dry docking? So is that only calculated on the available days, or is it based on the full number of days in the quarter? That is my two last questions. Thank you.
I think I can start with the easy one. Yes, Bolton will go straight out of yard as we speak and onto the contract late this quarter. So limited earnings because of the yards.
And the other one, Daniel, is also quite easy. Yes, it's the full number of days. So 65 is what we have achieved on utilization based on the full number of days, not adjusted for the dry docking.
Okay, thank you. That's very helpful. I'll get back in line. Thank you.
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Hello. Thank you for my... But with respect to the wind farms that have had downtime in the quarter, you also mentioned Høgaliden in your presentation. So I was firstly just wondering what happened there and is that wind farm back to production again?
Thank you. As I commented on Höga Liden in northern Sweden, we've had some unexpected faults on key components where we're working very close with the turbine manufacturer to rectify this. There are some delays in the supply chain, which is affecting that.
Okay, so you don't know when it will be up and running again. Is that what you are saying?
It's not that the whole wind farm is not spinning. We are definitely producing quite a lot from Högarliden. I think what you were referring to of not up and running, we had the exceptional grid outage of Midhill during the quarter. That's the only time that we've seen that the whole wind farm has been spinning. out observed so with regards to our other wind farms we are not seeing anything like that by far in terms of in terms of outages and that was also on mid-hill and external outage So when I'm referring to the other wind farms and some operational hiccups, that is mainly single turbines that are experiencing some hiccups and where some parts are needed to be changed. And then you have to wait for the supply chain to come with the parts and you have to hire a crane, etc. So that is... It's the normal procedure that we are working on all our operational wind farms.
Okay, thank you. And I was also wondering on the coddling wind farm and the constant application. What do you sort of see as the most likely timeline on this wind farm now?
Yes, I think I, on our last quality presentation, tried to indicate a bit of the timeline, which I can try to repeat. First of all, Ireland is a new country, or not a new country, but it's new when it comes to offshore wind, and the planning body will deal with the first consent application for offshore wind. So that is to be taken into consideration. And we don't have any fixed timelines for when we will get the consent determination. So that's currently an unknown we have to deal with. On the top of that, in Ireland, there is a judicial review regime where a party can challenge the planning body on the consent determination. We will not be party to that, but it will be something we need to cater for time-wise if it happens. So we have those two uncertainties, the timeline around the consent determination and the potential judicial review. The way we've addressed that as a project is that we have, instead of having one timeline, we have strategic options that cater for different outcomes. And that's how we plan the project. We will not enter into early commitments, but instead having optionality on the outcome. Back to your question, I cannot give you a precise answer to the timeline now. other than saying that we will cater for an early determination in our planning and we will also cater for a later determination.
Okay, thank you. Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Daniel Holland from ABG Sundar Kholia. Please go ahead.
Thank you. So I just got back in line. It seems like there was not a lot of other questions. So I wanted to turn a little bit to the capital allocation framework because I think this is quite interesting. And I obviously appreciate that you maybe don't want to guide too much on things, sir. But I just noted that the wind service division has a very strong cash position now. So I guess there are probably discussions in the management and board around what to do with it. So my question is, given that you are saying that you still see a strong market for wind turbine installation vessels, are you planning to buy any new vessels here?
Daniel, thank you for the question. I think we have for several times now said that we aim for having new builds when the market dynamics are right. So that stays firm. But also back to the financial policy, it's also a fact that we also, like you probably have noted, that we are upstreaming cash, excess cash to the mother company to fulfill the financial policy that the mother company should stay liquid and strong. So in the fourth quarter, We have upstreamed quite a bit of cash both from Cruise Lines, paying back their debt that Bonheur supported Cruise Lines with during COVID. And we also paid back a share of the loan that Bonheur gave to Fovik during the tough years back in 2018 and 2019.
Okay, thank you. I have one follow-up there. So... Given this capital allocation framework, how do you think about weighing, let's say, buying a new wind turbine installation vessel against, for example, taking an FID on the Codling project, which, at least in my calculation, would require quite a significant amount of CapEx contribution from you guys?
Good question.
Do you want me to start?
Yes, absolutely.
I think this is very, very good questions, Daniel. This is exactly the heart of it that we have to look. We have very strong platforms to invest from. We have a very strong platform in onshore, both wind and solar and also offshore solar. We have a strong platform in offshore wind with two excellent projects in Kodling. And we have a fantastic position on the wind service side, predominantly with Fovik and Global Wind Service. And also the cruise platform is proving well. So all these platforms are giving us great investment opportunities going forward. And like you say, there are large capital opportunities there. so first we have to also leverage other external capital sources to optimize the funding and also the cost of capital but after that when you consider then how much equity bonheur should contribute what the point of this capital allocation framework is is that you see that if this investment cannot generate competitive returns then we're actually better off giving it back to shareholders and then after you made the dose test then you have to prioritize like we say What are the most attractive opportunities on a long term risk adjusted basis? And I would like to stress long term. We think long term. So we cannot look at these returns on the very short term, but look what they will bring us over the long term. But also the point I think you are also pointing to on a risk adjusted basis. So we try to be very disciplined on having different cost of capital for the various business units, where, of course, the equity coming from Bonheur down to the business unit will cost differently from a high risk project to a lower risk project. But I don't think we can go into details and actually say how we evaluate each segment. But we try to do this quite systematically. So the subsidiaries, they have to fight for the Bonheur equity and come up with projects that have better returns than we otherwise could give back to our shareholders. And they also have to compete individually to have the best returns in the group to fight for a scarce resource that's capital. So just a quick question back to you, Daniel. Was that helpful?
Yeah, I think this is super interesting and kind of hitting into the core of at least my impression of what investors care about in your company. Maybe one last follow-up on this, and then I'll jump back into the queue. But do you have any stated... Should I call it required return levels or IRR levels, et cetera, in kind of the whether you will distribute capital to shareholders versus keeping it for projects?
Of course, this is something we have internally, but we will not share it externally. Okay. Thank you.
I'll get back to you.
And maybe we should add that, obviously, times are turbulent, as you all know. It's lots of challenges in all the different segments we are operating in. But there are also plenty of opportunities. So I think every day we are waking up in the morning, looking at the news, trying to understand the picture in front of us.
Thank you. Your next question comes from the line of Anders Klauselund from SEB. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Were there any high-priced levies in the cost figure in the renewable energy segment in Q4?
I think in terms of EGL, as previously mentioned by Richard, there was a positive one-off effect in the previous quarter, 70 million knock positive effect. That was not in this quarter, so I would consider that if I were you.
Okay, but what was the full-year high-price levy in the renewable energy segment? Because that's netted out throughout the year, isn't it? So there's provisions and counter-effects.
I think, Anders, the main effect is what Sophie is pointing to, that when you compare quarter over quarter, we had approximately short of 70 million in fourth quarter 23, and we had nothing in fourth quarter 24.
Okay, excellent. Thank you.
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