d'Amico International Shipping S.A.

Good afternoon. This is the Corsco Conference Operator. Welcome and thank you for joining the D'Amico International Shipping Second Quarter and First Half 2024 Results Conference Call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the presentation, there will be a Q&A session. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Carlos Balestra di Mottola, CEO. Please go ahead, sir.

Okay, good afternoon. Sorry, we had a few technical problems today, so we are starting the presentation now.

As usual, we start with an overview of our fleet.

We controlled, as at the end of June, 33 vessels, of which 25 owned and three Babel charted in and five time charted in vessels. Since then, we exercised and received, were delivered one vessel, one vessel which was previously time charted in. And so now we have 26 own vessels and four time charted in vessels and three bubble charted in vessels. It's a Young fleet with an average age of 8.8 years and mostly eco-design, 85% of the entire control fleet is eco-design. I pass it over to Federico now.

Yeah, good afternoon. So as usual here, we show our CAPEX plan. In H124, as you know, we ordered four LR1s and we already paid 20% installment fee. on these four vessels, so for a total of $44.7 million. In addition to that, we had dry dock expenses for 6.6 million. In the second half of the year, you can see here on page eight, $31 million that are related to the exercise of our purchase option on one of our time-shattering vessels, the Crimson Jade, which was delivered to us earlier this week. And in addition to that, we're expecting to have $2.4 million of additional dry dock expenses in the second half of this year. Going forward, 2025, we just have some estimated dry dock expenses. And going to 2026 and 2027, we have the remainder of our CAPEX plan due on the four new building vessels that I just mentioned before. with a large part due, as you can see from here, slide eight, due in 2027 for an estimated total amount of $167.7 million. Going to page nine, our debt repayment situation. As you can see from the graph on the left, we repaid $6.5 million related to the facility on the Glenda Melanie, the vessel that we sold and delivered to the buyers in the second quarter of this year. In addition to that, we use some of the substantial liquidity that we have at the moment to repay some of our more expensive facilities for a total of $30 million related to the facilities on two vessels. And at the same time, almost at the same time, we drew down for $32 million two facilities on two vessels at a considerably lower margin relative to the facilities that we just repaid. Going into the second half of the year, we're expecting to have a scheduled loan repayment for $14.1 million, so very similar to the first half of the year. In addition to that, we have already repaid $6.6 million on another of our own vessels. And we are going also to finance two ships that are currently free of debt for a total of $34.3 million. Again, very attractive margins given also our very strong credit rating. Going into 2025 and 2026, we're expecting to have $30 million more or less of scheduled loan repayments, no refinancing need for 2025, and very little refinancing needs for 2026 for only $6.6 million. On the right, as always, we show our daily loan repayment on our own vessels, which, as you know, dropped significantly from $6,100 a day in 2019 down to $3,000 a day in 2024, given also the fact that we are currently operating some of our own vessels completely free of debt. Go to the next page, purchase options on our leased vessels. As you know, we have already exercised several of these options. We could exercise also on the remaining options that we have two ships already this year and one ship. next year in 2025. We are very likely to exercise these options. These leases have, as we mentioned in the past, relatively low cost of funds, so we are not in a rush to exercise them this year, but we could potentially exercise them in 2025. Next slide. Slide 11. This is the situation of our purchase options on the time-train vessels that we have. We have already exercised our options on iAdventurer and iExplorer in 22 and 23. As I mentioned before, we just exercised our option on Crimson Jade, an eco-modern Japanese-built vessel. We have three more options that we're very likely to exercise as well. One on the Crimson Pearl, on the iNavigator and on the iLeader. And so we are expected to exercise also these options between this year and next year. These options, as you know, they're all well in the money relative to their current market value. Next slide, our coverage. We had 43% coverage ratio in the second quarter of the year at a very profitable level of $28,000 a day. Here, as you probably saw from some of our last press releases, we also increased our coverage at very profitable levels. So as we speak, we have 37% coverage for the second half of the year at $27,500 a day. And we also increased, obviously, the coverage that we have right now for 2025 and 2026 already at 19% and 12%, respectively. Also, as most of you are aware, we are increasing also the percentage of our ecovessels, which is now almost 84% of the total fleet that we operate. Following slide, we give here a picture, a rough guidance on the third quarter of the year. So as we saw in the previous slide, we have fixed 42% of our available vessel days in time charter at an average of $27,600 a day. In addition to that, we have fixed 28% of our available vessel days at $30,300 a day. which equates to a daily blended TCE of $28,000, almost $700 a day for approximately 71% of our available vessel days in the third quarter of the year. Which means that if we make on the remaining days, on the free days, $27,500 a day our blended daily TCE, would be $28,300 a day. If we make $30,000 a day, blended TCE would be above $29,000 a day. And if we make $32,500 a day, we would get very close to $30,000 a day as a blended daily TCE. So we can reasonably say that we are expecting another strong quarter going forward. Here we show slide 14, as always, the estimated evolution of our fleet on the left. On the right, potential upside to earnings. We're showing our sensitivity for every $1,000 of spot rate, which is currently $2.9 million for the remainder of 2024. And it's obviously higher for 2025 and 26, given our lower coverage that we have at the moment for those years. And it's now $9.2 million and $9.6 million, respectively. Also, down at the bottom, we show that if we had to run the second half of the year basically at a break-even level, we would have made already $162.3 million of net profit based just on what we fixed already either in time shutter or spot. And as always, we also show on the right a little bit of a sensitivity to this figure. So should we make $20,000 a day on our free days, then our profit for the year would rise to $175.5 million. Should we make $25,000 a day on the free days, we would make almost $190 million of net profit. Should we make $30,000 a day, our net profit would be at that stage beyond $200 million. On the cost side, page 15, we discussed this in the past. We obviously were hit by some inflationary pressures. However, this seems to be stabilizing a little bit now. As you can see, our figure of daily OPEX for each 124 of $7,700 a day is about slightly lower than in the same period of 2023. So that I believe is a good sign. GNAs also on the right are also a little bit lower than in the same period of 2023. As we discussed in this case here in the past, the big increase that you see in 2023 and 2024 relative to the prior years is mainly due to the variable component of the personal cost, which is really the reflection of some very good years that we are having. Moving to the next slide, slide 16, very strong financial structure for this. We had a net financial position of $122.2 million at the end of the period. excluding IFRS 16 effects, our net financial position would be of $107.6 million with cash and cash equivalent of almost $182 million. Our fleet market value as at the end of the period was $1,185.7 million. And if you calculate the ratio of our net financial position to the fleet market value, This figure is 9.1%, so very low leverage for DIS. I just would like to remind that this figure was 18% at the end of 2023, only six months ago, and it was even 73% almost at the end of 2018. So this is really the result of a big deleveraging plan that we have been implementing so far. Moving to the income statement, key figures of the income statements. For the first half of 2024, total net revenue came in at $213 million, higher than the $206 million that we achieved in the same period of last year. EBITDA of $161.1 million versus $142.7 million. Extraordinary also EBITDA margin of almost 76% in H-124. So overall, we made a net profit of $122.9 million in H-124 against $99.8 million in H-123. And even excluding some extraordinary items that we had, both in H-124 and H-123, we made a profit excluding non-recurring items of $118.4 million in H-124 versus $103.6 million in H-124. Also very strong Q2. We made a net profit of $66.5 million versus $45.7 million in the same quarter of last year. Moving to our key operating measure. We achieved a daily spot rate of $41,404 a day in the first half of the year. with a coverage, a contract coverage of approximately 42% at $28,000 a day, which translates into a total daily blended TCE, the last row of this table, of almost $35,800 a day. Very strong Q2 2024. We achieved a spot of almost $45,000 a day, and this is for us our best quarterly spot result in our history so far. At the same time, in the quarter, we had 42.5% contract coverage, slightly less than $28,000 a day for a total blended daily TCE of $37,698 a day. And I pass it to Carlos for the market overview.

Thank you, Federico. And so... The usual slide here where we show spot and the one-year TCE rates on the left and on the right-hand side, asset values. Spot rates continue at very firm levels in the first half of the year and so have TCE rates, which are close to all-time highs. One-year TCE rate for an Ecom R-Vasos is estimated at around $34,000 per day. Okay. Sorry, I'm informed you're not seeing the presentation, so I'm going to try to try again.

No, I think now they're seeing it. No? That's what I thought. Okay.

So we are on page 20. Asset values, as I said, have been moving up. New building values are close to all-time highs. Ten-year-old vessel values and five-year-old vessel values are still at 13% discount to the all-time highs. Trade disruptions, they had, of course, a very important impact, as we mentioned several times on the current market situation. The most important factor probably being the Ukrainian war and how that affected Russian exports, in particular the sanctions that were imposed from February last year with Russian exports, which around 50% used to be exported to Europe. being rerouted to other locations, often much further away, like China, India, the Middle East, and Latin America, in particular Brazil. Some products stayed closer. They were exported to Turkey, are being exported to Turkey and Africa, but often then re-exported from these locations. In the case of Turkey, they have their own refinery industry. So they are importing more and exporting more products. So this has led to an important increase in sailing, average sailing distances, tightening the supply demand balance. Same effect for different reasons because of the trade disruption. in the Red Sea following the Houthi attacks, which started at the end of last year and became much more effective at the beginning of this year, causing a rerouting of vessels around the Cape of Good Hope and an important drop in transits through the Suez Canal. Volumes transiting through the Suez Canal drop around 70%. Vessels which are still crossing are mostly linked to Russian or Chinese interests. These vessels are less targeted than the other vessels. Going the longer route means increasing sailing distances between 30% and 67%. depending on the departure and arrival port. For example, on the Sika Amsterdam route, it also corresponds to a 15-days increase in saving time from 23 to 38 days. So it's quite an important increase. The effect on demand, some analysts estimate between 5% and 7%. increase in demand because of this, probably the effect is actually smaller because some arbitrages were closed because of the higher costs associated with sailing this longer distance. The oil demand is increasing at a much slower pace this year than it has last year as we were still benefiting from the effects of the reopening of some economies, in particular China. but it's increasing by 1 million barrels per day, expected to increase by 1 million miles per day this year, which is nonetheless still quite a solid increase, and which is backloaded in the second half of the year. If we see the graph on the left-hand side, we see that the blue and the green lines are not that far away in the first two quarters of the year, but that this gap between the two lines increases in the second half as demand growth is expected to accelerate. Refining throughputs are also increasing this year relative to last year, and we see, for example, in August, that they are expected to be almost 2 million Baus per day higher than they were in August last year. So trade volumes and refining throughputs are at very healthy levels for the market. And they are also, of course, one of the reasons for which the market has been so strong in the first half of this year. The supply picture. Instead, here we see that supply is expected to increase by slightly less than demand this year. This is intentional and is linked to the OPEC cuts, which aim to keep the market undersupplied, further draw down oil stocks and contribute to a higher oil price. There has been quite good discipline so far in implementing these cuts. And the outlook for next year for the oil supply will be dependent on the demand dynamics. If demand grows at a robust level next year, then some of these OPEC cuts might be unwound and oil supply might grow faster than this year. But there's ample supply available today to meet demand growth. So supply is not an issue. It's good, however, for the tank sector that the additional barrels today are coming from countries such as the U.S. and Brazil and Guyana. which are quite far away from China, which is the marginal importer of these barrels. The product stocks are at low levels. They have increased slightly recently, but they are still below the five-year averages, so this is also supportive for the market. Refining margins. have not been as brilliant lately as they were not long ago, but they're still at healthy levels. And diesel demand in particular has been slightly disappointing this year, as we will see later in the presentation. I understand that in Asia, refining margins over the last two weeks has improved slightly and Hopefully that will drive more throughput in that region, which will help that market, which is today actually at this very point in time, the weakest region for the product tankers. Here we see at the demand breakdown per refined product, number of commercial flights continued increasing at at a good pace this year. And jet fuel demand, not surprisingly, therefore, increased and was one of the major contributors to demand growth this year. This was not what the International Energy Agency expected at the end of last year, so this was a positive surprise. Also, I would say motor gasoline grew more than anticipated or is expected to grow more than was previously anticipated this year. NAFTA demand still expected, growth still expected to be robust. But what really disappointed this year was the diesel oil, as I was mentioning previously, where we're actually now anticipating a contraction in demand this year. And that is linked to a large extent to the weakness in the industrial sector in some important economies. in particular in Germany, which is also linked to the disappointing performance of the Chinese economy and because of its problems in the real estate sector. Going on to the following slide, we see here that there has been a gradual cleaning up of the LR2 fleet on the left-hand side. Now the percentage of LR2 vessels trading clean is almost at the highest level since January 2020 at 63%. It was only higher in January 23 at 64. And this is a reflection of the relatively weaker market crude markets for these type of vessels. They are still trading at good levels, the vessels transporting crude, but they have performed slightly less well than the product tankers. And in particular, the VLCCs have underperformed this year. And the order book for vessels transporting crude has grown from the low point reach at the end of 23 of 3.6% and now stands at 7%. Still a very low figure by historical standards. So very limited fleet growth expected in the coming year, I would say. And slight acceleration after that, but still very limited fleet growth going forward in the coming years, which should be supportive also for the product tankers. One of the reasons the market today is slightly weaker or has weakened, I would say, east of Suez is that a lot of Suez Max tankers, many Suez Max tankers, and also a few VLCCs cleaned up to transport refined products. And given the size of these vessels, they can transport a lot of cargo, and that really dampened substantially demand for LR2s with a ripple-down effect on the other vessel classes, smaller vessels classes. So going on to the following page, we see capacity additions. The slide we have been showing for many years. Last year, substantial additions in the Middle East. This year, additions are concentrated in Africa and China mostly. The African additions being related to the Dengote refinery in Nigeria. We expect less inputs into Africa, but possibly more exports out of Africa. The Middle East refinery capacity, which was added throughout last year, we are now fully seeing the effects of these additions this year. and that has been very positive for the market. Going on to the following slide, again here showing the growth in the U.S. shale oil, which has occurred despite actually a flat to decreasing rig count because of higher productivity in the oil wells. And there are many incentives that are that should spur demolition, but of course there is one factor, very important factor stopping owners from demolishing vessels, and that is the very strong markets we are currently experiencing, but eventually demolition will pick up as we see here on slide 32. The fleet is aging rapidly. At the end of June, we had 47% of the fleet, which was more than 15 years old. And this percentage is anticipated to rise to 55% by the end of 2024. So in only six months, it's a big leap in the percentage of vessels that are more than 15 and then reach almost 60% by the end of 2025. Also the percentage of vessels which are more than 20 years age has been rising fast and increased from 10.7% at the end of 23 to 13.5%. So although the order book increased from 8.9 to 11.5 during the same period, the gap between the fleet which is more than 20 years and the order book actually increased. increase, it widened from 1.8% to 2%. So the fleet is aging more rapidly than the order book is growing at this current point, despite a healthy number of vessels actually being ordered in the first half of this year. And going forward, the outlook is even more positive in this respect, because starting from 2027, we have very high percentage of vessels which are turning 25 years old. And unless we are in a very strong market, which we hope we will be still by then, we are going to be seeing a lot of demolition. So 2.1% of the vessels turning 25 and 27 and 4.1% in 28, and then this percentage rises reaching almost 10% by 2033. So it's a... a lot of vessels that need to be demolished in the coming years, which should support the market. As we see here, very little demolished since Q3-22, creating pent-up need for demolishing vessels in the future. The deliveries have been very limited in the first half of this year, but they're expected to stay at very low levels in the second half. 13 vessels in one quarter is actually quite low. And also in the first half of next year, but they will pick up the deliveries in the second half of 25. And we will see whether the market will be able to absorb comfortably also these accelerated pace of deliveries from the second half of 25. But the outlook looks very positive for the next 12 months at least. Here again, we see the number of vessels ordered in 2487 vessels. And the fleet growth here expected in 25 in the we are looking here only at the MR1, MR2, and LR1 segments. So we don't include LR2s, otherwise the fleet growth would be faster. But looking at only these segments and not assuming a big pickup, but nonetheless a pickup in demolition, we anticipate a fleet growth of 1.5% next year, which is still a very low figure. And as we saw, it's... mostly occurring in the second half of the year. Our NAV has been increasing further in the second quarter of this year, reaching almost $1.2 billion. And the NAV per share reached $9.7 billion. which equates to around 8.9 euros. And so as at the closing price at the end of June, we were at the discount of 19%. We were trading at the discount of 19% to NEV. Share price traded slightly down since then. So the discount is closer to 22% today, but still a substantial discount. Some of our peers, well, not trading actually at the premium to NAV and others are trading around NAV. So there's a lot of relative value, I would say, also some absolute value in our shares today. And in terms of use of funds, this was partially covered already by Federico in a previous slide, but we show here what would be the needs associated with exercising all of the options which can still be exercised, as well as the new building vessels we ordered. And it would entail a use of funds of $424 million, excluding the first installment already paid for the new buildings. It is still an important use of funds of $380 million. And we have been returning more cash to our shareholders, both as dividends and as buybacks. And given the outstanding results so far this year and a very positive outlook also for the second half of the year, We expect that dividends this year should be higher than they were last year, and the payout ratio should also rise and be closer to 40%, including the buybacks. The ratio of net financial position to fleet market value has been steadily decreasing, as commented by Federico previously, and now stands at a very healthy 9%. And basically that's it. And I pass it over to you for the Q&A session.

Thank you. This is the Corsco conference operator. We will now begin the question and answer session. To enter the queue for question, please click on the Q&A icon on the left side of your screen and then press the raise your hand button. Please do not mute your microphone locally, and when prompted, make sure you turn on your webcam in the pop-up window. If you are on the phone instead, please press star 1 on your keypad. The first question is from Matteo Bonizzoni of Kepler. Please go ahead.

Thank you. Good afternoon. I have two questions. The first question relates on the evolution of the support rate for you in the second quarter. So we have seen an increase, a sequential increase, compared to the first quarter of over $6,000 per day. But if you look at Clarkson, or MRR, or also other kinds of product tankers, there was more or less stability. So the question is just to understand if there were some, let's call it company-specific issues, which impacted positively on your realized spot rate. The second question relates to the evolution of the Scott Trace in July. We are seeing a weakening because the latest indicators are in the range between 25,000 and 30,000 per day. I think you have already mentioned some reasons for that. But the question is, can you a little bit more elaborate on this weakening? And above all, do you think it's temporary or it could last? And the third and last question relates let's say, misdelivery of the MP3, the letter which was supposed to be delivered in July. What exactly happened, just if you provide more color on that, and are you confident to find alternative solution in the short term? Thanks.

Thank you for the very good questions. One by one, I'll try to answer them as well as I can. On the spot rates, on a very strong performance in the first half of this year, I would say that the main contributor was our higher exposure on the LO1 sector. That was intentional. We were seeing that already last year, the LO1s were performing very well. we expected when we saw the escalation that was happening in the attacks in the Suez Canal, in the Red Sea, that because of the longer distances that product tankers would have to sail, the larger vessels were going to be the main beneficiaries. So we refrained intentionally from fixing our LO1s on period contracts. We kept a larger percentage of our LO1 feed than usual on the spot market. And we instead covered, we took coverage on our smaller vessels, the handy-sized vessels. And that explains the very strong performance on the spot market. I think that is the main factor. of let's say our outperformance, if you look at our results and compare them to MR averages. And instead in July, the weakness is associated with the factor, mainly associated with the factor I previously mentioned, because volumes, traded volumes are actually at quite healthy levels. And I think that as, The updated figures from the July report from the International Energy Agency confirms that refineries are working actually at quite healthy levels. Utilization in the U.S. Gulf, for example, is around 94% currently. However, the weakness for vessels operating in some crude tanker segments, the relative weakness, let's say, encouraged some owners, operators of these vessels to clean up the vessels, to transport gas oil in particular. Of course, they had to accept the discounts when to transporting this gas oil, but it was a back hole, let's say, trade for them. But they did quite a number, I believe I read around 12 Swiss max did this, and four BLCCs at least. And that has a huge impact in the market. The BLCC can transport much more than an MR or even than an LR2. So it does impact the market substantially. These are very long trips that they are performing, as we saw in the slide where we showed the distances for these voyages from Asia, Middle East to Europe. It can last around 40 days, and there will be a need for transshipment once these larger vessels arrive in Europe, in particular in the Mediterranean. And they are, therefore, after they perform these voyages, unlikely to go back to the Middle East to take up new clean cargoes. Because by September, October, we usually, for seasonal reasons, if not for anything else, we do see a pickup in volumes in demand for crude tankers. So most likely, after they perform these voyages, which we expect to be a one-off, they're going to be transporting crude and be dirtied up again. And so we will not have this drag on the clean market going forward. There are still a few vessels which are apparently crude tankers cleaning up to transport clean, refined products, but much less than in the past month. And so this factor should be much less important going forward. We are seeing that the market is, the averages, of course, came down quite a lot, but the weakness is really concentrated east of Suez, which traditionally over the last two, three years has been the strongest market. And we are seeing, however, quite healthy levels in the Atlantic, both in the continent and in the U.S. Gulf. And a slight uptick actually in freight rates over the last few days in these areas. still not at exceptionally strong levels with some volatility, but healthy volumes coming out of these areas. Part of the arbitrage for the TC14 US Gulf to Europe is wide open, and there was a very healthy number of vessels being fixed over the last few days in these areas. So we expect this weakness to be temporary and for the market to pick up, In addition, I'd like to also add a comment that I checked when we provided the half year update last year at around the same time this year, what was our average for the Q3 fixtures at that point in time. And we had fixed 30% of our spot days at 27 and a half. So with and now we are at 28 percent at thirty point three thousand. So more or less the same percentage fix, but a much higher figure despite the weakness that we are we are seeing right now. So it is not unusual for the market to be weak this time of the year. But last year we saw a big improvement in August and in the beginning of September, and hopefully we will see the same this year. And then finally on the amphitryon, unfortunately it was our mistake. I mean, we bought the vessel from a very unreliable counterparty, They did not respect the LACAN, although it was very long since we agreed to purchase and we signed the moat. They had several months before he had to deliver the vessel to us. The vessel was not delivered and could never have been delivered on time. And when we tried to reach an agreement which would have compensated us for the delay in delivery, we could not reach such an agreement. And we therefore decided to cancel the contract and we reserve our rights to make a claim against the seller. and we will be looking for new opportunities, but we are not in a rush to buy a new vessel. If we had acquired that vessel, we would have probably accelerated on the disposal of an older vessel. Given we did not get hold of that vessel, we might delay slightly the disposal of one of our older vessels. But we are quite content with the fleet we have today, and we are confident that opportunities will eventually emerge. And so we will patiently look for the right opportunities and be more careful next time who we buy vessels from.

Thank you.

The next question is from Daniele Alibrandi of Stifel. Please go ahead.

Yes, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats for the exceptional results. I have one question. You now have exercised quite a few purchase options and I was wondering if you can help to understand where do you see your cash break even going by the end of this year and maybe next year from the level that you usually call out to be around $15,000 per day. Thank you.

Yeah. Hi, Daniele. Thank you very much. Look, in terms of cash breakeven, we're definitely, as we discussed before, reduced in our level. I would say that for 2025, 2024, our cash break even could be probably in the tunes of $14,000 a day, one four as a whole for the year. And then let's see a little bit what happens for the following years, for 25 and 26, also depending a little bit on the timing of the exercise of our purchase options. But that is a ballpark figure that I would consider.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

The next question is from Massimo Bonisoli of Equita. Please go ahead.

Good afternoon. Hello. A couple of questions. I just wanted to touch on debt. Known to value now is below 10% and you're still generating a good amount of cash. So just a question on your approach regarding leverage. would you maintain a let's say very low leverage or even a net cash position in your balance sheet do you have any any reference for us and the second question on the buyback since some buyback has restarted over the past few weeks and any color on your policy here on the buyback any price or volume reference for any period of time thank you yeah

Thank you, Massimo, for the questions. So as we presented in one of our slides here, I don't know if you're seeing the presentation here, but on slide 38, we show our use of funds here in relation to the exercise of the options on the TCN and barbel chartering vessels, so there is quite substantial use of funds here going forward of around $380 million. That is excluding the $44 million that we already paid for the first installment for the new building. And in addition, we also plan on distributing more cash to our shareholders, both as but mainly, I would say, as dividends. And although we don't have a dividend policy, I would anticipate that our payout ratio for these two purposes should be of around 40% of our net profits this year. So substantially more than was distributed last year where we distributed 50 million in dividends and purchased shares worth seven million. So share repurchases this year have been quite limited. They are opportunistic. When we see unjustified weakness on the shares. We see an opportunity to, to buy and we, we, we, we reactivate the purchases. But we don't have any specific objectives in that respect. And so we, We cannot guide you in this respect. Yeah, so that's on the buyback. However, there is the authority to buy back up to 15% of the shares issued, including the shares which were already repurchased.

Thank you. And if I may squeeze in another question on the MT Amphitryon, are you eligible for any reimbursement here?

Well, we will definitely get back, be reimbursed for the deposit, 10% deposit that was in an escrow account. And we also, of course, incurred some costs related to the inspection of the vessel, spare parts which were bought for this vessel, and we will seek to obtain reimbursement of these costs also, as well as from other indirect losses which were incurred potentially, let's say, from the canceled purchase of the vessel. So we prefer not to quantify these at this stage, but... we will try to reach a commercial settlement with the counterparty. If that is not possible, then we will evaluate what course of action to take.

Thank you again.

As a reminder, if you wish to register for a question, please press Q&A on the left bar and raise your hand. or press star one on your telephone. The next question is a follow-up from Daniele Alibrandi of Stifel. Please go ahead.

Hello, can you hear me?

Yeah. Can you hear me? Okay, thanks for the follow-up. No, just a follow-up question on the other direct cost line, which is... Down 5% here and here in H1, 8%, minus 8% in Q2. Should we expect the trend, this downward trend in the mid-single digital for H2? Is this a good proxy or should we factor in some... Sorry, Daniela.

The line is pretty bad. I think I understood your question. No, I would not expect a decrease in trend on OPEX. As I mentioned before, I would expect this inflationary pressure to stabilize. So I would expect going forward a kind of stable level relative also to the previous year.

Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

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Mr. Balestra di Mottola, there are no more questions registered at this time.

So thank you very much, everyone. And I wish a very good summer to everyone and talk soon. And yeah, thank you for your time today. Thank you. Bye-bye.