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Interconexion Elec S/Adr
3/3/2026
During the presentation, please send your questions through the window on the right side of your screens. Provide your name and the company you represent in the dialogue box. And at the very end, your questions will be answered. Next slide, please. We are pleased to be joined today by Gabriel Melguizo, Interim President of ISA, Jaime Falquez, VP of Corporate Finance, Sonia Bouchard, VP of Legal Affairs, Patricia Castaño, VP of Corporate Strategy, Natalia Pineda, VP of Road Concessions, and Juliana Sousa, VP of Institutional Relations, and Alejandro Velasquez, Director of Mergers and Acquisitions. The call begins with Gabrielle's review of the highlights of 2025 then followed by Jaime Falca's presentation of the financial results. And lastly, we'll go back to Gabrielle, who will provide closing remarks and lead the Q&A session. Next slide, please. And before we begin with Gabrielle, we'd like to give the floor to Sonia Abuchar, VP of Legal Affairs, who has an important announcement. Thank you, Mateo. Before we begin our earnings call, we'd like to address recent events related to the company's presidency. As everybody knows, last Friday, February 27, ESA was formally notified of a decision issued by the fifth section of the State Council, which declared the annulment of the election of Jorge Andres Carrillo Cardoso as president of the company. In response to these events, in honor and respect for the decisions adopted by the judicial authorities, That same Friday, in an extraordinary session, the board of directors resolved that. First, as of that same day, Jorge Andres Carrillo Cardoso ceased to perform the duties of president and legal representative of the company. Two, with the vote of the majority of its members, the board decided to temporarily suspend Jorge Carrillo's employment contract until the ruling was issued by the Fifth Section of the State Council, declaring the annulment of his election becomes final. Third, once the State Council's decision becomes final, his employment contract will be terminated. Lastly, unanimously, the Board of Directors appointed Gabriel Jaime Miguel Miguez Oposada, VP of Power Transmission, as the interim president until a permanent president is named. Lastly, we reiterate to the market that EISA maintains absolute operational and strategic stability. We have rigorously responded to the court's rulings, ensuring continuity and leadership, and immediately activating the corresponding protocols. The company continues to execute It's ESA 2040 strategy as usual, backed by a sound management team, over 5,000 dedicated employees, and intact financial and operational fundamentals. ESA continues to fulfill its commitments. In every country where it operates, our focus remains the same, excellence, transparency, and sustained value creation for our shareholders. Thank you. And now let's look at the next slide. Mateo, please. We have now Gabriel Maguiz, who will begin talking about the results. Thank you, Sonia. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. Let's look at the highlights of the year next. Next slide, please. When we end the 2020, well, first let's talk about the strategy, which is extremely important. So by the end of 2024, we have a new strategy for ESA for a term until 2040, because we anticipated the results of the prior strategy, as you know. At early 2025, we launched the new ESA 2040 strategy to different stakeholders' interests. First, consolidating energy transmission, Second, deploying and accelerating new energy businesses. Third, growing selectively and strategically in roads, then entering new geographies within America, multiplying by more than twice the 24-bit, actively managing the portfolio. Lastly, positively contributing to talent, communities, and nature. Next slide, please. now let's talk about operational efficiencies in 2025 we implemented several changes to be better positioned when it comes to the new strategy and it was not only to enhance the operational efficiencies but also the reliability of our grid especially that of a columbia and the contribution to energy transition. So we chose TransAlca, our subsidiary of the Atlantic Coast, to drive the new energy solutions business. And with this, we aim to enhance the segment of new energy solutions with solar farms for large consumers and to storage energy, a field with huge potential in the region. We also consider the energy transmission business of ESA in inter-Columbia, which allows us to focus and consolidate in a single subsidiary our capabilities and technical experience, driving the best operation practices at a high level in Colombia. So with these changes, Transelca is still the owner of its transmission assets, while InterColombia assumed the construction, administration, operation, and maintenance of these assets. By the end of the year, we created the Digital Hub, a platform that centralized and optimized cross-sectional services and digital services for all of our companies in Latin America. Next slide, please. when it comes to the operational performance it was sound in 2025 where we created value for share for investors we executed 6.3 trillion pesos in investments up 31 compared to 2024. ahead i'll be telling you more about this We created an EBITDA of 8.7 trillion pesos, a net profit of 2.4 trillion pesos, and a return on equity close to 14%. We paid dividends for a total of 1.4 trillion pesos, which means 1,265 per stock. The stock had a positive performance with an increase of the price of 48% in the year. Also, if we keep in mind the dividend paid, the total return of the stock was 55% in 2025. And we closed the financial part of the Panamericana Este route in Panama for $281, ensuring enough resources to execute the project. Next. Next. Yeah. Moving to sustainability, we'd like to highlight several milestones that we reached. We invested 28 trillion pesos on social management. Also, we ended the year with an SRO indicator with 415, meaning that for every peso invested in social management, 415 pesos were generated in social, environmental, and economic value. Also, we declared our decarbonization path towards net zero, and in the year, we met 114% of the goal, and 100% of our companies are neutral carbon. Also, we obtained $6.8 million in revenue and $500,000 in reduction of costs from an innovation, such as the use of technologies that optimize the capacity of the existing grid, the integration of data for decision-making, and 3D solutions, among others. And we end this chapter with great news. ESA scored 85 of 100 points in the Dow Jones Sustainability Index. ranking among the 15 best companies of the public services power energy industry. And this allowed us to be in the S&P and to be one of the 10% best companies of this industry. Next. When it comes to projects that are energized and awarded, in 2025, we won projects with investments close to $283 million, and we put into operation projects with a CapEx of $664 million. Among the projects awarded, 94 are for reinforcements in Brazil, a contract of connection, and two expansions of the grid in Colombia, the new control of flow system of Las Palmas in Chile, and we have a free flow agreement in Maipo, Chile. Of the projects that we have in Brazil, In Brazil, we include 54 reinforcements and improvements of the grid and the energization of the Riacho Grande project, the first block of the Piracue project, and the Agua Vermelha project. All of these projects are very significant in CAPEX and contributions to energy transition and to the grid's reliability. I'd like to highlight that these projects were commissioned before termed. This means efficiencies since we began to receive revenue before what we agreed. In Colombia, we have the COPEQUIS that CETAS put into operation, a project in the north of the country with an investment of $147 million. Also in Colombia, we energized two connections to solar farms, plus two renovations and two expansions. And in Peru, we have the commissioning of the Chilota San Gabriel transmission line with an investment of $7 million in the expansion 21 with a capex of $13 million. Next slide. In the fourth quarter of 2025, investments were executed for 1.9 trillion pesos, reaching investments of 6.3 trillion in 2025. This figure represents an annual growth of 31% compared to 2024, coherent with our commitments of investment and the strategy to maintain our relevance in the region. The figure in the middle shows the distribution of capital consolidated by geography, while the one on the right, distribution per business segment. In 2025, 92% of investments were in the energy transmission business, 7% in roads, and 1% in telecommunications. Now let's look at my country. In Colombia, Colombia represented 19% of the total investments of ESA, which rose to 1.2 trillion pesos. Investments in Colombia enabled the commissioning of projects like OPEC with CECITAS, the connections of the solar farm Guadepo III, and the Valledupar I, II, and III solar farm in the Caribbean. In addition, in Colombia, ESA still advances to build seven projects awarded, five for connection and 12 for renewal and expansion projects of installed capacity. Let's look at Brazil. This represented 58% of investments for 3.6 years. In the year, ISA Energia Brazil put into operation 54 reinforcements and improvements of the grid, energized the Rio Acho Grande project with an investment close to 641 billion pesos, the Agua Bermuda project with an investment of $61 billion, and the Block 1 of the Piraqui projects, which is 30% of the annual revenue. We have also four projects in construction, including the completion of the Piraqui project, and 183 projects of reinforcements and improvements. Now let's move to Chile. which represented 12% of investments made for 764 billion pesos. In energy transmission, we have the commissioning of the increased capacity of the Maitencillo Nueva, Maitencillo Line, and we invest to build two projects and three expansions and renewals of the grid. When it comes to the roads, we still advance in the Orbital Sur Santiago project and complementary works. Moving on to Peru. There we executed 8% of the investments for 468 billion pesos. In the year, we enabled the commissioning of the transmission line Chilota-San Gabriel with an investment close to $100 billion, and the Ampliación 21 project with an investment of $49 billion. We also advanced to build four projects awarded to expansions of the grid. Moving on to Panama and Bolivia. which represented 3% of the investments, these rose to 189 billion pesos, mainly for the constructions of the Panamericana Este route. Next slide. At the end of 2025, the investments plan from 2026 to 2030 rose to 25.5 trillion pesos. On the left, we see the distribution by geography and by business segment. Investments consist of commitments of investments and bids awarded in each of the countries where we operate, projections of investments in energy solutions, optimizations, reinforcements of the grid of ESA and Adhia Brazil. and others. On the right, you can see the annual projections estimated of the execution of these investments. Today, we advance in the construction of 29 projects, that is 26 projects of energy transmission and three in roads, which will add close to 5,000 kilometers of line and interventions of 296 kilometers of roads. So with this end, now let's give the floor to Jaime Parquez, who will talk about the financial results. Next slide, please. Thank you, Gabriel. Next slide, please. So we begin this financial chapter Of course, I'd like to thank you all for attending and joining us today in this presentation, our earnings call of 2025, which is so important to us. And we'd like to highlight a sound operating the performance. keeping in mind of course that we had special events that impacted the comparison of financial figures from 2024 to 2025 when it comes to 2024 we had favorable events that had a positive impact on the results such as the regular tariff revision in brazil which had a net positive impact on the EBITDA of 872 billion pesos, and the net profit of ESA for 206 billion pesos. Also, in 2024, we had a positive effect, special, because of the adjustment, the estimate of the reserve for major maintenance, which created a higher EBITDA of 177 billion pesos. These special results of 2024 are compared with several unfavorable events in 2025, such as in Brazil, the regulator decided to reconsider the formula to update the financial component of the basic grid of the existing system. and this had a negative impact of the event on 592 billion and the net of isa of 140 billion pesos in addition in 2025 we keep on updating the reserve for the no payment of air e which accumulated in the year 2025 314 billion pesos with a direct effect on the results of the year as gabrielle mentioned we're still increasing our investment pace to honor our commitments by 2030 And with that, to advance in the path of our 2040 strategy, reaching a total execution of 6.3 trillion businesses. which is a historical execution representing an increase of 31% of the pace of execution of our investments compared to the year before. In terms of debt, we have sound debt levels within the ranks suggested for investment degree. The gross debt indicator closed at 3.7 times. And in terms of financing, we had disbursements of $4.4 trillion in amortizations or compliance of obligations of $2.8 trillion. Alongside, we kept our investment degree as an international issuer and the highest score in local markets. Before we end this first part, I'd like to highlight also that we were given two recognitions, the Renewal of our as an ir granted by the colombian stock exchange which is given to companies that adopt the best practices in transparency and information and we were also first in the ellis 20 ranking which is an initiative, independent initiative, that rates and recognizes annually companies for their excellence in disclosure of information. Next slide, please. When we look at the financial results on this slide, we'd like to share with you the EBITDA and the net profit and their performance in the year 2025. At the top, we see the EBITDA was set at 8.7 trillion pesos, down 11% compared to the same period displayed in 2024. if we focus in the middle of the graph you can see the operational performance and if we exclude the special events the positive ones we had in 24 and the negative ones in 2025 that i just mentioned we can see that the EBITDA grew eight percent compared to the same period explained by the commissioning of projects that generate a new revenue and the positive effect of the contractual scalars with which we update the revenue in each geography and higher yields in a row of concessions. When it comes to the distribution of the EBITDA accumulated by segment, 83% comes from or is generated from electric energy transmission, 15% roads, and 2% telecommunications. Moving on to net profit, you can see that the revenue of the year added up to $2.4 trillion. down 14% compared to what was seen the year before. But if we exclude the specialty events, the net profit because of the operation would reach an increase of 5% because of the higher EBITDA, and partially counteracted by a higher income tax more minority interests and higher financial expenditures to finance the growth that we have been talking about on the bottom right of the slide you can see the distribution of the net profit per country I'd like to close this slide repeating that our operations are doing very well, that we're still energizing projects, we're creating new revenue, and we're benefiting from contractual scalers, which also provide the natural coverage on our balance sheet. Next slide, please. The balance sheet at the end of 2025 really reflects our sound financial situation. Assets, 76.1 billion pesos. With a slight decrease compared to the year before, and mainly explained by the conversion effect, here it's important to highlight that the Colombian peso was strengthened in 2025 compared to the other currencies of the region and the dollar, and this is reflected when we consolidated everything to pesos. This reduction was also partially compensated by the construction of the projects and the higher yields that we have from the concessions. When it comes to liabilities, these decreased 1.9% compared to 2024, mainly also because of the effect of the conversion. and compensated also by the higher financial liabilities that come from the debts that we have taken to finance our new projects when it comes to the equity of isa at the end of 2025 it was 17.8 billion pesos showing a stable performance compared to december 2024 and the main movements of this item have to do with the debit as decreed and the by the shareholders that same year next slide please so we can talk about the depth In 2025, the consolidated financial debt closed at 34 billion pesos. That is 1.7% lower than at the end of 2024. The net movement of the debt is mainly explained by the conversion effect, the amortizations according to the timetables of payments, the issue of debentures in Brazil and Peru, and disbursements that are made for our investments plan. The main operations of DEP during the year focused in Brazil with the issue of debentures, which is very much bonds. for 2.8 billion pesos destined to cover the investments planned and especially the development of the projects Piraque and Serra Dorada, as well as the prepayment of the 12th issue of debentures, with which we also improved the company's debt profile for the end of the year. In Colombia, ISA received disbursements for 650 trillion pesos to finance the investments plan in Peru. There are local bonds issued made by ISA Peru, the first one made by this company in the local market. for an equivalent of 232 billion pesos, with which we will refinance the total of its bank debt that it had last year. We also had loan disbursements in ISARREP and Consorcio Transmantado in the last quarter to finance investments and projects for a total amount of 164 billion pesos. Lastly, ISAVS Chile received a disbursement of a bank loan for 405 billion pesos, mainly for the works of the project of the Ruta Panamericana Este. The gross debt over a bid indicator ended at 3.7 times. and these show proper levels of debt. We're within the rank suggested by risk rating firms for a rating investment degree. Also, we have a mean life of our debt close to nine years. This goes hand in hand with the nature of long term that we have in our concessions. Next slide, please. When it comes to the performance of the share of ESA in 2025, the performance was positive. It was valued 48%. And if we keep in mind the dividends paid, the total return of the stock of ESA was 55%. The price of the stock at the end of the year was 24,660 pesos, and during the year it reached a maximum of 26,300 pesos and a minimum of 16,660 pesos. It's important to highlight that the average volume transacted was 7,665 billion pesos, and this is important because it's a 23% increase, and this is reflected on a higher liquidity of the stock. At the end of the year, ISA reached a stock capitalization of 27.3 trillion pesos. Next slide, please. As usual, along with the disclosure of the results of the fourth quarter and of the end of the year, we share with the market the proposal to distribute dividends that the Board of Directors of ESA will propose to the shareholders meeting held March 26th. There are several elements worth highlighting for this proposal. We propose to distribute 50% of the net profit, which is equivalent to a dividend of 1,090 pesos per stock. And this dividend agrees with a higher range of the profit distribution policy and seeks to maintain a sound balance. And this has been the brand of ESA. between sharing the earnings and reinvesting for growth to contribute to the future valuation of the company. We consider that this is a responsible proposal with which we have a good level of liquidity. We protect our investment degree rating. And it's a component that's strategic to maintain the company's competitiveness in the region. And with this, I'd like to give the floor to Gabriel to give us closing remarks. Thank you, Jaime. Now we're ending this webcast. Before we begin our Q&A session, let me give you some closing remarks. First, we began the year defining a strategy that ensures the company's future, positioning as a leader in energy transition. We had a 2025 with a sound operational and financial performance, and we still win bids and execute with discipline and responsibility our investment commitments. Third, we implemented changes to enhance our structure and our capabilities for the organization to drive our strategic decisions. We also ratified our commitment to sustainability, which is fundamental to our strategy. In 2025, we increased the execution of investments by 31% according to our ESOT 2024 strategy. We also have a stock that had a total return for shareholders of 55% considering the valuation of the price. And we also had financial results that allow us to grow and keep the investment degree rating. So with this, we end our presentation. Thank you again for joining us. And now we can begin our Q&A session. Gabriel, thank you. Let's begin the Q&A session. Let's begin with a question from Andres Duarte from Corfi. And he asks, how do you account the project, the new project that we want in Peru, the TOSES-SEPTI? I understand that ISEN and Ejeva are not controlling. Jaime, could you give us a hand with this question? Sure. Thank you, Andres, for your question. the project that you refer to is the elect consortium apai a project that we're executing in peru along with the grupo energia in bogota it's a consortium in which we are co-controllers so Neither ESA or Groupon adhere controllers, so we cannot consolidate line by line. This investment is acknowledged according to the international standards for financial information through the equity method, reflecting solely the economic participation of each other company, in this case, 50% of ESA. Perfect, Jaime, thank you. Next question, also from Andres Duarte Corfi. Could you please give us an update on the project with GB, the same project of Tosicepti, but in this case, Gabriel Melquisa can help us with this answer. Yes, thank you, Andres, for your question. Okay, the Tosicepti project, which is the abbreviation of the name of the substation, It really joins three projects in Peru. It's the largest project of its kind in Peru. It's a project of about... 800 kilometers of line and above 800 million dollars approximately this project i mean the really these are two projects the first two are under evaluation the environmental study presented in 2025 and we're advancing in the design and contracting In the second part of the project, which is SEPI, meaning Serendipita, we are working to complete the environmental study to file the license request in the first quarter of 2026. So that's a development of the TOSA SEPTI project. Thank you, Andres, for your question. Thank you, Gabriela. Next question from Andres Duarte as well. that I will join with another question from Florencia from Midlife. Could you give us an update on the problem that we had in Chile? Yes, of course, Andres and Florencia, thank you so much for your questions. we're going to try to join them both first we remember february 20th 2026 inter chile was notified by the sec on the position of his fine of about 14.45 million dollars i say about it was but it's it's really equivalent to 14.5 million dollars That fine is related to what happened with the national black down that happened in January 2025. The resolution that gave way to this fine is part of the regulatory framework and the administrative part of the Chilean authorities that include many, many players InterChile, which is our company, our subsidiary of ESA, in charge of the transmission in Chile, along with the corporate practice, is analyzing the scope of the resolution and will continue managing this process, along with the mechanisms established by the local norms. So the legal team of the company has begun to analyze that defense and has decided to impregnate this in every instance possible. For now, we have, on Friday, we presented a resource of reposition before the SEC, and it's the first file we present. Now, all of the above means that the company is not forced to pay the sum right now, and this scenario will remain during this impugnation process. Once again, thank you, Andres and Florencia, for your questions. Thank you, Gabriel. Let's continue now with the next question, which is focused also, do you feel that the energy policy in Colombia recognize the importance of transmission? This is from Andres Duarte as well, and also Pablo Franco, who is an expert. Could you give us a hand to answer this? thank you andres for your question sure the public policy really showed that transmission is part of the energy transmission for instance we can see how the ministry it recently issued resolution 14004 which shows the works that will be very relevant for the transition and that we will be given nationally and regionally. And these will have to be developed in the following years. And the purpose is to improve the reliability of the system to, of course, serve the increased demand and enable the renewable energy processes. Also, the ministry has been reviewing a project of resilience guided to guarantee the robustness of the transmission infrastructure and we hope that this resolution will be issued soon as a final one also the craig which has also incorporated in its agenda topics that have to do with transmission that are relevant and to close the regular rate tariff review. and the ukme also is carrying out its analysis to incorporate in its expansion plan transmission works that have been identified and included preliminary in the modernization plan that was incorporated as part of the of the mission of this unit thank you for your question Pablo, thank you. Let's continue with another question, and I'm going to join one of Andresa Duarte and Juan Jose Munoz of BGT Pactual, who ask, when will ESA have its new chairman or president? Sonia Buchard will help us. Thank you, Mateo, and thank you for the question. The State Council ruled the annulment of this election and retroacted everything that was made in the selection process to January 23, 24. And so for the last two years, since the moment that the sentence has been published, Within the company, with the board of directors, we have been analyzing the decision and how we will meet it. So we're in this process right now. We cannot determine when we will have a new president in the company. We are analyzing the decision of the State Council, but we will be informing you soon. Thank you, Sonia. We continue with a question from Heidi. How is ESA making use of the opportunities rising from the growth of companies that create energy from renewable sources? And how does it capture value within the energy transition? Gabriel Maguizo, could you give us a hand here? Thank you, Heido, for your question. The answer has different viewpoints. First, when you increase the number of renewable generation, this has to go out towards consumers. So this implies the need of building new transmission lines. and the need of installing another type of technology that will contribute to have this energy flowing from solar or wind farms, and that it has to be reliable. I'm talking about static compensators and other number of equipment that contribute to energy transmission. And everything that I'm talking about is a great opportunity. I mean, the increase of the grid that we will be building and the increased installations of these operations and these equipment that we know. and that we are aware of and that we will be placing throughout Latin America. It's a great opportunity. And it's part of the portfolio that the transmission business has of $23 million from here to 2040. Another viewpoint to answer this question is that through the business unit that we created, devoted to energy solutions which basically refers to renewable generation through solar plants and storage of energy we aspire also to generate that renewable energy for self-consumption of large industries through self-generation, and we expect to expand our energy storage business throughout Latin America in both fields, solar farms for self-consumption and energy storage for either solutions or end users. It's a huge market that we will be capturing, surely, throughout the world. And for 2040 strategy, we'll be capturing $47 billion. So the truth is this question is very relevant to us, and the answer is our capability to invest and to be leaders in energy transmission in Latin America has to do with this. Thank you, Heidi, for your question. Gabriel, thank you for your answer as well. let's continue with the next question how do you will you how will you recover the bunny from air e in the caribbean region gabrielle could you help us here sure carlos thank you for your question indeed e-science companies has been working looking at the legal aspect directly and as a sector to recover the accounts receivable from this company. This way, we have been working before the Ministry of Mines and Energy when it comes to the suspension. Last year, the temporary suspension of the supply made by this organism, which was suspended by the Superintendents of Public Utilities, through a circular and we also made legal actions which surely all of you are aware of there was a ruling and right now it's being appealed we also worked before the superintendents of public utilities seeking to enhance the business fund which is a mechanism to serve these types of contingencies And we have been holding meetings with the Ministry of Mines and Energy, with the interventor of AIR-E, to find structural measures to solve the problem of this company. Of course, we do this directly and with the sector. And lastly, I'd like to mention that in July 2025, we have filed a suit against AIR-E, when it comes to the second half of the year, but this was suspended until January this year because of a partial payment agreement made with this company Still, in January, we renewed the project, and we will carry on with this execution. Still, of course, ESA and its companies still is analyzing the chance of filing new suits so that this company can assume the payment of its obligations subsequent and to have a structural solution that's convenient to us. Thank you. Pablo, thank you. Next question. Which are the new projects for the Colombian market in next years? And first, let's hear Pablo Franco and then Alejandro Velasquez, who's the director of mergers and acquisitions. Mateo, thank you for the question. Yes, indeed. We have a series of resolutions and definitions that the Mining Energy Planning Unit has. We will be looking at a resolution that approves a series of projects that are very relevant to enhance transmission in the Caribbean and precisely to serve all of the needs that rise from the energy transition and the incorporation of all these nonconventional renewable sources from incorporating new technologies. And there we are focusing for next year's, of course, and serving the needs rising conventionally within our plants. Thank you. Alejandro? Expanding on what Pablo just said, we have identified opportunities in the region for the next months, about $12 billion. Of these, about 48% of the amount corresponds to energy transmission. others, and 26% to new energy business. Geographically, 40% corresponds to Brazil, 42% to Chile, 80% to Chile, and 10% to Peru. Particularly in Colombia, for the energy transmission business, we identified eight bids in addition to the projects contained in the urgent resolution that Bobby just mentioned. Thank you, Alejandro. Next question given by Gloria to Gabriel Magliso. Could you please tell us how is ESA operations hurt with Ecuador's commercial war? I can answer this two ways. I can look through transmission and market operator. And none of these really affect ESA. When it comes to transmission, we transmit energy towards Ecuador or from Ecuador to here through lines that come from the Jamundino lines from Paso to Pumasquina, Ecuador. That line is available when the countries require exchanges. But revenues through that line, our part goes from Jamundi and Pasto to the boundary with Ecuador. And this and that depend on the amount of energy sent instead of the availability of the asset. So we keep receiving the revenue normal from the line. These are the conditions of the transmission. The lines are there. when the grid needs them. We are sorry, of course, that we don't have international transfers, of course, but these are the circumstances. The second pillar has to do with XM. It's not heard at all because XM does not buy or sell energy and is not impacted. Thank you, Gloria, for your question. thank you gloria for your question and gabrielle for your answer next question from florencia of midlife how does air e how much does air e o thank you mateo and ferencia for your question to date There's a reserve of 467 billion pesos, of which 153 billion were reserved at the end of 2024, and 314 billion at the end of 2025. Thank you, Florencia. Thank you, Florencia. Thank you, Jaime. Next, Juan Felipe asks, thank you for your presentation. When it comes to the energy storage, will you be incurring in batteries? Do you see opportunities of storage in Colombia, given the limited capacity of renewables, or do you see more opportunities in other countries? Gabriel Maguiz, could you give us a hand here? Thank you. I'm sorry. Who asked the question? Juan Felipe. Yes, Juan Felipe did. Juan Felipe, thank you for your question. Truly, Transelca is a vehicle. It's the first vehicle of ISA to execute. or better build solar generation to store energy in Colombia. It's the first vehicle in Colombia, meaning we're not saying that San Selco will be operating other countries. We're analyzing the market in the rest of Latin America. But for now, we see a great opportunity. We have an interesting portfolio to execute it in Colombia initially by 2030. both in solar generation and in storage, and we see that there's a good number of projects possible. This is a business unit that was recently born and just beginning, but we expect to give you good news soon. When it comes to the rest of Latin America, however... We are focused mainly in Chile and Peru, exploring their market. Chile, we're focused on storage of energy, and in Peru, generation and storage of energy. That's what we have. But let me conclude. Tencelca is only for Colombia, and we see that there's a good market for energy solutions. Thank you, Juan Felipe, for your question. Thank you Gabriel and Juan Felipe for your question. Allow me, let me review what other questions we may have that we have not answered yet. With regards to the questions we have, this ends our earnings call of the fourth quarter of 2025 of East Haddon's Companies. We'd like to thank you all for joining us, and we'll see you next time. Thank you.