10/15/2020

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Conference Operator
Operator

Excuse me, ladies and gentlemen, we now have our presenters in conference. Please be aware each of your lines is in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of the presentation, we will open the floor for questions. At that time, instructions will be given to the procedure to follow if you'd like to ask a question. I would like to now turn the conference over to Mr. Pablo Gonzalez. Please go ahead.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I hope you and your families are healthy and safe. Let me start by saying that we continue to deliver good overall results as we operate in line with the priorities and guidelines we set forth to navigate through the current environment, which is still very challenging on many fronts. Notwithstanding how challenging it is, we delivered strong top and bottom line growth and our margins remained very solid and are among the best in our industry. During the quarter, we reinforced the various measures and actions to protect the health of our employees and their families, our number one priority. And we remain in contact with the authorities and communities to assist during the pandemic and mitigate its impacts. Also, the actions we have taken to guarantee our continued operation, as well as that of our suppliers, to ensure all our customers and consumers have access to our products, have allowed us to operate our facilities without any meaningful disruptions. On the sales front, despite private and B2B consumption still being affected by the COVID lockdown and its impact on the economy, several categories performed well, particularly those related to personal hygiene, health, and protection, and we continue capitalizing on new growth opportunities. Altogether, our top line grew for the 24th consecutive quarter, driven by strong volumes. On the cost side, Most raw materials compared positively and together with our increased productivity and very good results on our cost reduction program allowed us to deliver solid bottom line growth and improve margins year over year in spite of the significant peso depreciation. In summary, another good quarter in the midst of a very challenging environment. Javier will now provide more details on the quarter results.

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Javier Quiñones
CFO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Good morning. During the quarter, our sales were 11.1 billion pesos, a 7% increase versus the third quarter of 2019. Volume grew 7% with price and mix in line with last year's. Consumer products also grew 7% with all the increase due to volume. Away from home product sales went down 31%, reflecting a slow reopening of offices, hotels, and restaurants. Finally, our export business performed very well with sales growing 54%. Cost of goods sold increased 7%. Against last year, pulp, fluff, superabsorbent materials, and resins compared favorably to dollars, as did domestic fiber prices. Imported recycled fiber and energy prices compared negatively. Finally, ESX was significantly higher, averaging 15% more. The cost reduction program, an important component of our business DNA, had once again very good results and yielded approximately 400 million pesos of savings in the quarter. These savings are at the cost of goods sold level and are generated at various fronts with sourcing, materials improvement, and process efficiencies, all contributing in a meaningful way. Although we cannot anticipate or forecast specific targets going forward, The fact that many of these savings are technology-driven, together with our intention to continue actively looking for, developing, and investing behind new product and process technologies, gives us confidence that we should be able to keep delivering good results on this project. Gross profit increased 5.5%, and margin was 37.9% for the quarter. SG&A expenses were up less than 1%, and as a percentage of sales were 100 basis points lower. We achieved better efficiencies in distribution expenses as well as on the investment behind our brand, balancing advertising with point-of-sales promotion. Needless to say, we continue to review other expenses to make sure our investment behind the lines remains a competitive advantage. Operating profit increased 9.5% and the operating margin was 21.3%. During the quarter, we generated 2.8 billion pesos of EBITDA, a 7.8% increase, and EBITDA margin was 25.6%. Cost of financing was 428 million in the third quarter, compared to 391 million in the same period last year. Net interest expense was 9% higher, As we previously disclosed, in July the company very successfully placed a record domestic and Latin American low rate, $500 million of 144A Reg S senior unsecured notes at 2.431% with partial maturities of one-third each in years 2029, 2030, and 2031, and entered into a related swap agreement to hedge the currency risk. Since the proceeds of these placements will initially and primarily be used to pay down debt due to late 2020 and early 2021, our long-term debt and cash position increased substantially. In addition to the funds from the placement, we have generated a very strong balance sheet which reflects solid cash generation from EBITDA, with 10 billion pesos of free cash flow generated in the last 12 months, positive results from working capital management, And in general, the priority we set up at the beginning of the year to protect cash, our total cash position was 22 billion pesos. Our net debt to EBITDA ratio was 0.9 times, with an EBITDA to net interest coverage of 8 times. In the quarter, we had a 10 million pesos per exchange loss, which compares to a 6 million loss last year. Net income for the quarter was 1.3 billion pesos, an 8.9% increase with earnings per share of 44 cents. With that, I turn it back to Paolo.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Thanks, Javier. We continue to operate in an unprecedented and uncertain environment. It is in moments like this when KCM's positioning, resiliency, adaptability, strategic model, and very strong balance sheets allow us to not only successfully navigate through the challenges, but also capitalize on the opportunities. Mexico's economy experienced a sharp contraction in the second quarter and showed some signs of a rebound in the third quarter, but the impact on domestic consumption together with the price of depreciation are evident. Notwithstanding, the fact that we sell essential products and participate in very defensive categories, together with a multi-brand and multi-

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Operator

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Stable and comparing positively. For the most part, we expect that to continue. Add to that our operation efficiencies and cost reduction and innovation DNA, which has been critical and will continue to play an important role, and we expect to continue to post healthy bottom line growth and margins. So we have been able to operate efficiently through the most complicated part of the pandemic, and are confident we will continue to be able to do so, always focused on our stated priorities and operating guidelines, committed to improving the lives of our consumers, personnel, communities where we operate, and the country as a whole. In summary, we've had a good third quarter and first nine months of the year, and we're confident we can continue to deliver good results for our shareholders despite the very uncertain and challenging environment. So that concludes our very brief prepared remarks, and with that, let me open it up for questions, and thank you all again for participating on the call.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will open the floor for questions. If you'd like to ask a question, please press the star key followed by the one key on your touchtone phone now. Again, to ask a question, you may press star one now. Our first question comes from Jen Sitz with Morgan Stanley.

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Jen Sitz
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Yes, hello. Thank you for taking my question. Just want to see if you could give a bit more color on the main drivers of the quarter over quarter top line decline. I mean, you posted a very strong second quarter, but if you could give a bit more details on the main drivers of the decline during this quarter, and also if you could provide an update on the situation of the recycled paper market and prices, it would be great if you could give color in the outlook and any trends you have observed there lately. Thank you.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Hi, James. Thanks for your questions. Look, we mentioned we posted a 7% increase in net sales. Yes, it is sequentially lower than the 9% we achieved in the second quarter. In that quarter, of course, we had some sales attributed to the pandemic. So there were some increases that were beyond what we would normally expect. The categories have stabilized now, so you see demand a little bit thinner from that respect. But having said that, we believe that under their circumstances, a 7% increase is still quite strong. And hopefully going forward, we can continue, as we mentioned, given our resiliency and adaptability, we can continue to post top-line growth as well as bottom-line growth. When it comes to, as you know, it was all volume-driven. Going forward, we are analyzing opportunities on the pricing front, and there are certainly some categories and, in some cases, channels and even specific products or tiers where we see an opportunity, and there we will go ahead and move prices. It will not be a... overall approach, more of a very specific and strategic approach, again, depending on the category, the channels, products, and even tiers, as I'm mentioning. And where we don't currently see an opportunity to increase prices, we will strive to be much more efficient in our investments. And we should start to see that reflect, particularly in the first quarter of next year as we work through that in this quarter. And on the competitive front, on just the dynamic, we really overall, when it comes to pricing and promotion dynamics, we see no significant difference from prior years. As you know, our categories have always been very competitive. But having said that, we're not experiencing a particularly intense competitive environment and very different from what we've seen in past years.

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Jen Sitz
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, thank you. And regarding the recycled paper prices, I guess they remain high. Are you seeing any trends of them decreasing?

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Yes. When it comes to recycled paper prices, we started to see late in the third quarter, and we believe it will continue for the fourth quarter of prices coming down, and actually coming down in an important manner. So the The past couple of quarters, they have been a headwind. I'm not sure that they will become a tailwind in the fourth quarter, but certainly their impact or their negative impact will be much, much lower than it was in the past couple of quarters.

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Jen Sitz
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Okay, great. Very clear. Thank you. Thank you.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Louis Yance with Compass.

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Louis Yance
Analyst, Compass

Hi, guys. Congratulations on the quarter. Two questions on my side. I mean, the first one, it's related to your leverage. I mean, you're right now below one times clearly, you know, very strong results this year, drove that results. But I just wonder, you know, given where you are and historically your desire to pay dividends, can we expect a step up in dividends given where you are in terms of leverage or at least on the buyback front? because it seems like your results, strong results this year, have not been fully reflected on a strong share price. So I wonder if there's something you can do on the buyback slash dividend front. And then the second question is related to margins. You know, you continue to spot margins year over year throughout the year. But as we move into this fourth quarter, you start facing, you know, I guess, you know, tougher comps, you know, the 27% EBITDA margins kind of thing for the next couple of quarters. Are you comfortable that the margin expansion that we have witnessed could continue going forward? Thank you.

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Javier Quiñones
CFO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Hello, Luis. Let me take the first one. Yes, our balance sheet, as you mentioned, is strong and we have been generating cash and we should continue to generate cash and earnings going forward. At this moment, we will continue to be conservative with our balance sheet. Going forward, if this situation continues and our view is that it will continue, we will definitely consider our alternatives. And this is something that we will probably start thinking about next year. At this moment, again, our plans continue to be conservative with the budget.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

And let me take the question. As you mentioned, even under very challenging circumstances, we've been able to stay within the target of our EBITDA margins that we've stated are between 25% and 27%, which we believe are very strong margins and Again, some of the strongest in our categories worldwide. And, yes, we will continue. We will start to face more challenging comparisons, particularly this fourth quarter and first quarter of next year, even into the second quarter of next year. So, again, we're doing what we know how to do so that we try to maintain that margin in its target, which is certainly – growing the top line. And again, we hopefully will start to see not only volume, but a little bit of price in the mix going forward. And we will continue to be very aggressive on being more efficient on our cost reduction program, on expense reduction. I mean, just what we know very well how to do. And we will be very, very aggressive on it as we've been in the past. So We believe we will continue to have those types of margins going forward, and we're doubling our efforts to make sure that's the case.

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Louis Yance
Analyst, Compass

Great. Thanks a lot, guys, and congratulations again. Thank you, Luis. Appreciate it.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Nicholas Leroy with JP Morgan.

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Nicholas Leroy
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Hey guys, how are you doing? Thank you for taking my question. I have three questions, you know, very brief. One, on the cost front, you guys mentioned in the release notes and the open remarks that some of them compared positively in dollars. I just wanted to get a sense with you on how most of the most relevant costs are comparing in pesos year over year. Also, If you could maybe expand a bit more details on the SG&A efficiencies. I mean, they came in very strong. I just wanted to understand where are you guys sourcing these efficiencies from? And lastly, maybe this question more to Javier, how much debt do you expect to pay in fourth quarter or first quarter on 21 after the issuance of the bonds? Thank you, guys.

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Javier Quiñones
CFO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

On the first one, the comparisons in... I'm sorry. I had my face mask on. On the first one, the comparisons on fibers, if you put them in pesos, there's still... Virgin fibers are still slightly down to flourish in terms of recycled, they are up. As you could say, that for all derivatives, once you translate those to pesos, they flourish.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

So overall, I think when you turn those costs in dollars into pesos for the most part, were flat to higher than last year. And that's where, again, our efficiencies and our cost reduction programs come into play to absorb and reduce the impact and allow us to have the margins that we posted. So that's on the costs on the SG&A efficiencies. And then a couple of things. One, as we mentioned, we have seen opportunities in the logistics side, and we've been working very hard on that front. and seen some nice improvements, both working with third parties to improve not only the service but the cost, and within our own fleet where we've become much more efficient given the process changes that we've put forth. And this is an area where we continue to believe there's a good opportunity. And then there's also, of course, our A&P investments. where, as I mentioned, we're striving to be much more efficient in our investments and thus obtain the same results with less money invested. And on expenses, we're just going line by line and looking at any opportunity to be tighter and bring down those costs. So it's really a combination of the things that we've been doing on the G&A prompt

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Javier Quiñones
CFO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

have worked very well and again we will continue to be very aggressive in all those fronts on the on the debt the debt that we have coming due later this year and very early in january next year all together is very close to seven billion pesos that's what we will be paying down we have an additional maturity in 2022 of 3 million pesos, and we, in essence, pre-financed that given the conditions that we were able to obtain on the bond placement that we did this year.

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Nicholas Leroy
Analyst, J.P. Morgan

Understood. Thank you very much, guys. Congrats on the results. Thank you.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Louis Willard with GPS.

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Louis Willard
Analyst, GPS

Hi, guys. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question, and congratulations on the result. I mean, I think most of my questions have already been answered, Pablo and Javier, but can you talk about a little bit more on the dynamics of mix that you have seen across tiers? Are you seeing some sort of trade down that could be hurting mix in the comparison?

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Sure, Luis. Thanks for being on the call. We are seeing some trade-down, no doubt, in some categories, but I would say so far it's been marginal. Just to give you an idea, it represented less than 100 basis points top-line reduction in consumer products for this past quarter. So no doubt there's a little bit of that going on, but it hasn't been significant.

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Louis Willard
Analyst, GPS

Great, Pablo. Thank you. And congrats again.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Thanks, Luis.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Rodrigo Alicantra with UBS.

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Rodrigo Alicantra
Analyst, UBS

Hi, good morning, Pablo Javier. Thanks for checking my question. I guess the first one would be for Pablo. So as we have seen Kimberly Clark in other countries launching a business to consumer platform, just curious about your thoughts about perhaps doing the same in Mexico. Would it make sense or not for you? And also, my second question would be, well, so far you have elaborated very clear on the drivers of the SG&A line, right, marketing and distribution. Just wondering, looking ahead, I mean, to get a sense of your operating leverage that you can achieve, just wondering if you think that at least for you it's going to be sustainable or easy to sustain current levels of SG&A or perhaps lower them a bit in real terms. Do you see any tailwind or any headwind on the SG&A? That would be helpful. Thank you.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Thanks, Roberto. On the B2C platform, look, we're right now really focused on both the traditional business and the tremendous growth that we're seeing on e-commerce. Having said that, we're no doubt analyzing different opportunities We have not come to a conclusion whether that's one that we should be pursuing, but it is something we are looking into. When it comes to SG&A and sustaining those levels, sure, I mean, it's not easy, and it gets harder at times to be able to squeeze more and more out of what we're doing and become more efficient, but you know that's in our DNA. and we will continue day in and day out to look for those efficiencies. And we feel pretty comfortable that we can maintain the current levels, and we'll continue to look for additional improvements going forward.

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Rodrigo Alicantra
Analyst, UBS

Great. Thanks, Pablo. And lastly, if you could comment, please, on product innovation. Are you working on something that you can comment now or any material – changes on your product assortment? That would be my last question. Thanks.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Look, we have continued to innovate throughout the year, and we've introduced new products in the diaper front and wipes, certainly in the soaps and cleaning surfaces categories. We're even producing some masks. So there's quite a bit of things going on. As I mentioned, particularly on diapers, we've got quite a A few things that we introduced into the market in the past couple of years that have performed very well, particularly the closed diapers as opposed to the open diapers. And same on wipes, et cetera. So we are comfortable. We're glad with the way our innovations have gone forward. We are introducing right now into the market some additional products that have to do with diapers products. and that tend to bring into the mix materials that are more sustainable or more friendly to the environment. And that's certainly an area where we will continue to push. And in all of our categories, we're looking particularly into that area and seeing how we can be more aggressive and bring to market better solutions in that front. Going forward, we are... Quite frankly, exploring some technologies, and we're excited about the possibility of bringing innovations and significant improvements to some of our categories. Not in a position to disclose those at this point, because we're there in the, again, exploratory phase. But we're excited with what we see going forward and with the pipeline that we have of innovation coming in the next couple of years. And thus, we will increase our... investment behind them, as well as on not just product improvements, but just technology as a whole to bring more efficiencies into our operations. So excited with some of the opportunities we see going forward. Very good pipeline. And as we go along to next year, I'm sure we'll be able to touch on some of these particular introductions that we will get into the market.

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Rodrigo Alicantra
Analyst, UBS

That's great. Thank you very much.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Again, as a quick reminder, if you'd like to ask a question, you may press star 1 now. Our next question comes from Mohamed Ahmed with SGP.

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Mohamed Ahmed
Analyst, SGP

Hi, guys. Thank you very much for taking my question. I hope all yourself and your families are doing well. My question is one regarding consumer business. I think right at the start of the call, you did mention about how much of consumer revenue growth was volume versus price mix, if you could just sort of say that again, because I didn't quite catch it. And also just building on the trade down discussion, can you give a sense of, you know, how much of the pricing situation or lack of pricing, price mix growth is mixed versus pricing?

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Okay. Sure, Mohamed. Thanks for being in the call, and likewise, hope you and your family are doing well. Look, on the share of the consumer product side, as we mentioned, the growth was all volume, volume driven. And then when you look at price and mix, there was a little bit of price in there, but mix was slightly down, as I mentioned, a little bit less than 100 basis points, top-line reduction of consumer products. So, When you look at price and mix, price is slightly up and mix is slightly down, and that's why they come in flat versus volume up at 10%.

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Mohamed Ahmed
Analyst, SGP

Excellent. Thank you very much, guys.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Thank you.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Carrizona with Signum Research.

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David Carrizona
Analyst, Signum Research

Hi, guys. Thank you for the question, and again, congrats for the good results. My question is, well, it's more than a question. Can you give us a guidance for the whole 2020 year on the margins, please?

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Javier Quiñones
CFO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

I'm sorry. I'd say we generally don't do that kind of guidelines. What I can say is that the fourth quarter shouldn't be very different from what we were seeing in the third quarter. The conditions are not that different. So that's as much as we can say at this moment.

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David Carrizona
Analyst, Signum Research

Okay, guys. Thank you very much. You're welcome.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you. There are no additional questions at this time.

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Pablo Gonzalez
President & CEO, Kimberly-Clark de Mexico

Great. Thank you all again for participating in the call. We'll be glad to take your calls as we go forward. And again, hope you and your families are healthy and safe. We won't talk to you, at least all of you together, until the first quarter of next year. So we hope you have a terrific end to the year. And again, stay healthy and safe. We look forward to continue talking to you. Thanks so much.

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Conference Operator
Operator

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This concludes today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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