3/3/2026

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Good morning. This is the Chorus Call Conference Operator. Welcome and thank you for joining the Lotomatica Group's full year 2025 results conference call. As a reminder, all participants are in listen-only mode. After the presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Should anyone need assistance during the conference call, they may signal an operator by pressing star and zero on their telephone. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Mirko Senesi, Head of Investor Relations of Lottomatica. Please go ahead, sir.

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Mirko Senesi
Head of Investor Relations, Lottomatica Group

Thanks, operator, and good morning to everyone. Welcome to Lottomatica Fulia Results presentation. I'm here today with our CEO, Guglielmo Angelozzi, and our CFO, Lorenzo Vallanca. Now the floor directly to Guglielmo for the presentation. Guglielmo, please.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Thank you, Mirko. Good morning to everybody. We start from page three of the deck. Very happy to share with you that we had another very solid print for 2025. EBITDA grossed 21% year-on-year and adjusted net profit 45%. We have returned a significant amount of capital to our shareholders, underpinned by our solid cash flow generation in our balance sheet capacity, 375 million euros or 1.6 euros per share divided between dividends and buyback. The net leverage is at 2.4 times in line with 2024 because we use them well within our financial policy as we've used, as I said, our cash flow generation balance sheet capacity for the buyback. Without the buyback, this would have been two times or at the very low end of the financial policy. Page number four, what are the key milestones that we've achieved in 2025? The PWO integration... First of all, it's been successfully completed. We've implemented shy of 90 million Euro synergies, 34% more than what originally announced. The full rate will be in effect in 2026. And PwO has gone back to growth after reaching, as we said, the lowest peak at the end of the migration. Very good on the market shares also. We gained 1.2 points as a group, including historical brands and PwO, which you will see is more than 50% of the shares lost by the tails, and we reached 31.3% in Q4 2024, and we think there is more room to go in 2026. The process for the renewal of the new online concession has been completed. New concession are active since November 13. There's a few more. important steps, so the certification of the new systems and the go-live of the new regulation on compliance which is expected to happen in the summer of 26, but everything is on track. We optimized our cost of debt with a successful refinancing in April. More than 50% of our debt was refinanced at the time with 24 million euros per annum savings in interest costs. And now we stand at 5.3% total cost of debt, which is 240 bps lower than IPO. Also in terms of governance, since June we are 100% float. We've entered the FTSE meeting in September. Liquidity, including all sources, is now above 50 million euros per day, so 15 times more than the IPO level. And also the independence of the board has been strengthened, and today With new members that have joined after the exit of Apollo, we have 73% of independent directors and have appointed a lead independent director in July. So let's go up page number four of the presentation. This is focused on the market shares. On the left, you can find the legacy brands. The graph, legacy brands means basically everything except PwO, the Planet Twin brand. The graph starts in 2022 because that is the year when we acquired the last asset, which is the last asset before PwO, which is Betflag. So you can see there's been a constant growth of market share on the historical brands, on the legacy brands, and shy of two points also this year. As we had commented in the past on the right graph, you can see the trend line for PwO, so 7.1% at the acquisition, 7.1% at the start of the migration, lowest value at the end of the migration as it is usually, it's already up in the past, 6%, and then relaunch progressing well, 6.3% at the end of the migration. for Q4 2025. So overall, a very good performance, notwithstanding the factoring in the pressure on market share on PWA because of the migration. Let's go to look at some of the competitive dynamics closer. We are page number five of the deck here. So as you can see from the graph on the left, this is the market share of the so-called tail operators, the smaller operators. They were at 16.6% in 2023 and lost a bit of market share, less than a point in 2024. You know, that's a pretty natural trend. But then they lose 2.1 points in 2025 with an acceleration in the last quarter of the year. And as I commented before, we take one, two points, which means basically more than 50% of the loss of basically more than the fair share, which would have been 30%. We are on page 6 of the presentation. I've commented on EBITDA growth and this goes along with significant adjusted net profit growth through the years. You can see that on the graph on the left. We have more than doubled in the last four years the adjusted net profit, which has grown also in the last year 24 to 25 of 45%. But even more important, and these are the drivers behind this growth, that you can find on the right graph of the page. Three quarters of the growth has come from organic growth and optimization projects. So organic growth, meaning the baseline growth of the EBITDA, 86 million. Then you have EBITDA revenues. Then you have 20 million euros coming from the optimization of the financial structure and 48 coming from the projects that we've executed on extracting synergies from the M&A. Only 53 million, so one quart, comes from EBITDA that actually we've paid for. So the accretion is very not only relevant, but it's also very healthy in its composition. Page number seven of the deck. Let's get to the guidance for 2026. We guide towards revenues of 2 billion 390 million euros to 2 billion 460 million euros for 2026. EBITDA will be in the range of 940 to 980 million euros. And CAPEX are in line with basically the previous, pretty much in line with the previous year. So recurring CAPEX between 85 and 90 million euros. and concession capex coming from the mathematics of the concession schemes of 78 million euros per year. In terms of capital returns, the dividend proposal just basically follows, strictly follows our dividend policy, 30% of adjusted net profit, which is 0.44 euros per share or 111 million euros. And we are going to ask the board is requesting an authorization to the AGM to buy back an additional 12.5% of the share capital in the next 18 months, which are the current prices. correspond to circa $700 million in the period 2026-2027, including the shares that we will have bought by the date of the AGM with the share buyback, which is currently in progress. So with this, I leave the floor to Lawrence.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Lawrence, please. Thank you, Guglielmo. Moving on to page 9, you can see on the left-hand side how revenue growth has been plus 12% on a reported basis, and on the right-hand side EBITDA has gone by 21%, with Q4 going double-digit on a normalized basis. So in 2025, we close the year at 156 million euros of EBITDA, but a 38% margin, which has grown from 35% in 2024, thanks to the higher margin of online that grows at a faster pace than the other two segments and the realization of synergies. Going on to page 10, in line with previous quarters here, we can see that the online has continued to be the main growth engine of growth, so with revenues up 22% and EBITDA up 26%. Sports franchises also growing very nicely, both in terms of revenues, up 14%, and in terms of EBITDA, plus 31%, thanks also to the favorable payout that we've experienced in the year. So very favorable in age one, less favorable in age two. Gaming franchise has been broadly flat, plus 1% revenues, with EBITDA plus 3%. Page 11, when you look at the left-hand side, the CapEx, you can see the recurring CapEx are broadly stable. They're slightly lower than what we see in 2024, which is a testament to the scalability of our model. Look at concession capex, the $130 million versus $63 million the previous year. This is predominantly due to the upfront payment of the online. CAPEX for the tender of the new online concession that we paid in November 2025. Growth CAPEX and one-off CAPEX, they are predominantly related to integration with 24 million euros paid throughout the year, which we will not see in 2026, and then carry over from bolt-ons that we had gathered at the beginning of the year for the activities carried out in 2024. Finally, if you look at the right-hand side, you can see the operating cash flow growth of plus 18%, and this is also including the increase in concession capex. If we didn't include the upfront payment for the online concession capex, we would have had a growth of 24%. Page 12. You can see the path from net debt from the 30th of September 2025 to the 31st of December 2025. In addition to adjusted EBITDA, you have negative effect of net working capital, as is typical given the seasonality of the business. Taxes paid of $48 million. This is what we've paid. This is the second installment for the taxes. for the 2025 period that we paid end of October. CapEx of 96 million, that includes also the payment of the concession CapEx, also for the 35 million of online. Financial expenses and leases of 51 million, and then you have 236 million euros of buyback that we actually implemented in the fourth quarter. That brings us to a total net financial debt at the end of the year of 2.1 billion, which equates to a net leverage of 2.4. Had we not done the buyback this year, we would have had, as Guglielmo mentioned earlier, a net leverage of two turns. So we continue to remain within our financial policy of two to two and a half turns of leverage. That is concluded.

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Mirko Senesi
Head of Investor Relations, Lottomatica Group

we can open up to the Q&A operator. Thank you.

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Thank you. This is the Coruscant Conference operator. We will now begin the question and answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may press star and 1 on their touch-tone telephone. To remove your staff from the question queue, please press star and 2. Please pick up the receive when asking questions. Anyone who has a question may press star and 1 at this time. We kindly ask to use handsets when asking questions. The first question is from Carl Kalampan of ETIG. Please go ahead.

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Carl Kalampan
Analyst, ETIG

Thanks very much. Good morning, guys. I appreciate this morning's presentation. I have two questions, if I may. The first is on the share capture discussion that we had and you guys laid out very helpfully on slides three to five. I'm curious, when I strip out the PWO contribution, it looks like you guys took about 43% of the long tail share that was available. Could you help us understand how much of that growth was a function of TOTOC relative to deals? And now that we've had a few months to better understand the landscape, should we view this as sort of a sustainable rate of share capture on a go forward basis? Second question that I have is on shareholder buybacks and M&A in relation to one another. You've typically talked about those as sort of competing for the same excess cash supply. Should we interpret today's decision to allocate more capital towards repurchase as a signal that maybe throughout the concession process and following UK tax adjustments that there's perhaps been less opportunity than you would have expected so far and the priority is shifting to buybacks or is that still sort of to be determined at this point? Thanks very much.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Yeah, Clark, this is Guglielmo. On the first question, well, the only thing in terms of, say, non-organic that you have in the growth of the market share, let's say in Q4, is the sport bet contribution. So you can, you know, roughly it's like half and half. That is the picture. I'm not sure why you get to 43% because compared to the beginning of the year, the contribution of PwO is actually negative. So I'm not sure. On the legacy brands, the increase is, what is that, 1.8 points because you've had a decrease on Planet. So the total share that we take including PwO is 1.2 points over 2.1. which is more than 50%. But maybe I got it wrong, so please correct me if I'm wrong. But to the key point of your question, you have only sport bed there, so it's kind of off and off. And the other important part is... Yes, we think it's a trend because we think there is, of course, there is more to come on the, say, Boltons or this type of deals with minority with path to control, which we've explained last time. But also there is the possibility of continuing organic growth. The environment is pretty constructive under this point of view. Now, we don't take, as you know, we don't take commitment on the market share because it's always very hard to guide on that, how the market share will go. But to give you a tendency, so a flavor of the competitive environment, we think that there will be more pressure on tail operators in general and that we are very well positioned to continue to capture market share.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Maybe on the second point, High Clerk, so for the buyback, listen, the rationale for me, we've increased the size of the buyback to 12.5% of the share capital because Our cash flow generation is accelerating. We're delivering quite fast. And so it comes naturally for us if you look at our cash flow generation profile that the buyback follows suit. And we're basically following the same capital allocation framework that we've been saying for some time. So the excess cash goes to buybacks, which competes with M&A. As we've said also, the bar is pretty high. I wouldn't read any signal in that other than the fact that we continue to follow exactly the same approaches we've done historically. Now, the only thing to read in this, I think, is the increase is just a function of the acceleration of our cash flow generation and the leverage.

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Carl Kalampan
Analyst, ETIG

That's very helpful. Appreciate the comment. Certainly no corrections to offer on our end. I think we just bucketed the PWL, sequential share capture, in the wrong place. Thanks, guys.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Thank you, Clark.

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The next question is from Estelle Weingraud, JP Morgan. Please go ahead.

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Estelle Weingraud
Analyst, JP Morgan

Hi, good morning, everyone. I've got a first question also on capital allocation, I mean, in the context of M&A opportunities out there. I wanted to ask if Evoke Italy was an option, and if you were looking at it, if it would make sense to you. And a second question on the retail concession, is there any progress you've seen or heard of on the government discussions with the regions on finding a potential agreement? Thank you.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

I think I'll answer the first question. We won't comment on specific names. I think, as you know, we monitor all potential targets within the framework that we've mentioned, which is across Europe and, of course, that includes Italy as well. But we're not going to comment on specific names.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Yeah, so on the retail concession, the government is still working on the decree, as I commented a few times before. It's a very solid and constructive setup. So it's still on the, the ball is still on the government's court in order to come up with and approve a proposal that then will have to be discussed in the so-called Conferenza Unificata, which is the joint conference of the regions and the government. So we stand pretty much in the same place as the last time we spoke, except there's been more work done in refining the decree on the government side, really working on the and things and talking to the industry, the association. It's really very much about that, but nothing more than that, I would say.

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Okay, thank you.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Thank you.

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The next question is from Ed Young, Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

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Ed Young
Analyst, Morgan Stanley

Good morning. Two for me as well, please. First of all, on the World Cup, obviously it's a revenue and an EBITDA opportunity, but it's also an opportunity to engage players and grow actives. How have you treated the potential of Italy being successful in the March playing tournament or not and within your guidance and could you perhaps give some colour of the level of engagement you'd expect for Lottomatica if Italy were or weren't to make the tournament how vital is that or what's the kind of level of difference and yeah how is that treated in the guidance? And then second of all, on the buyback, I guess, chiming in on Clark's comment, could you perhaps give a little bit of colour on the cadence of what we should expect for buybacks, how we should perhaps think about what you might do in 26 and 27 within your leverage framework? Thanks.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Okay, so on the World Cup, I would say that it doesn't really move the needle as much. I mean, as you say, it's an important period for us to acquire customers. It's a very important one. But the guidance already includes the outcome, whether Italy is in the World Cup or not. And it doesn't really move the needle as much. On the pace and the cadence of the buyback, we will continue to do the buyback basically at the same pace that we've been doing so far. I think if you run the numbers and you look at where we stay at a constant leverage, say we'll probably do a bit more next year and a bit less this year. But we'll see as we move along. I mean, as you know, we give the mandate to a bank who executes the buyback, and then we may or may not adjust the pace as we go along. But we don't make those adjustments often, frankly. As you know, we've made one last year in November. through an acceleration but I mean our plan is all other things being equal that we will carry out the full, up to the full amount for 26 and 27.

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Mirko Senesi
Head of Investor Relations, Lottomatica Group

Thank you.

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The next question is from Ben Shelly, UPS. Please go ahead.

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Ben Shelly
Analyst, UBS

Hi team. Thanks for the presentation and thanks for taking my questions. I've got two. One, I guess the implied EBITDA margin guide is quite a bit ahead of consensus. Can you elaborate on the underlying drivers supporting that margin outlook, especially in online? And my second question is about the consolidation opportunity. Do you think the technical testing to be completed in the summer of 2026 can offer more market share opportunity? Thank you.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

I'll take the first one. If you look at the margin, the implied margin expansion for 26, it's predominantly driven by mix. It's online growing significantly faster than the other segments. And given the margins of, we're seeing margins, if you look at the margins for the year 2025, they're in the mid-50s. If you assume a similar margin for 26, you get to an implied margin that is for the year. that is higher, that you get to around the 39% if you look at the midpoints. So the online is the main driver. Of course, you also have some effect of synergies that are coming in because whilst we've completed everything we had to do for the integration of PwO, There is still a run rate effect that you haven't seen at all in 2025. We've got another 24 million of the synergies or a run rate effect in 2026 that flows through the P&L.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Ivan, so on the consolidation related to the phase two of the concession. So they call it technical testing and full compliance. A part of the activities will be carried out by May 13 as originally planned. Another part will most likely be postponed. There's still probably a question mark of whether it's I don't know, it's August, September, because of just technical reasons. But it really doesn't move the needle. It doesn't change the fact that this is clearly another opportunity to make... this market more robust, easy to manage, clear to understand. And so, of course, whenever you have these kind of transitions, it may happen that well-equipped operators are in a better position like we are. So can this be an opportunity? Yes. The more we go towards the final model, the better it is. So this will happen. Some things will happen in May. Some things will be more slightly pushed forward. I don't know. It's still to be decided whether it's September or around that.

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Ben Shelly
Analyst, UBS

But short answer, yes. Thanks, guys. That makes perfect sense. Thank you. Thank you.

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The next question is from Fabio Pavan, Mediobanca. Please go ahead.

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Fabio Pavan
Analyst, Mediobanca

yes hi good morning and thank you for taking my two questions um the first one is if you can help us in building up expectation for cash flow generation in in 26 we have 100 million higher bda but also uh optimization in interesting cost cash cost and my question is uh we should still assume some Voltron acquisition for this year or not? And the second question is on product evolution. My view is that clearly your market share gain is also driven by your tech platform and your ability to launch new products. So I was wondering if you can share with us some update on this.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Thank you. Yeah, I'll take the first one on cash flows. Yes, so it's a bit more than 100 million, if you take the midpoint. From a CapEx perspective, the recurring CapEx are not moving very much because they are driven by the size of our retail footprint and it includes also Technology spend in that is very scalable and those don't really, those costs don't really increase. So the CapEx level really stays the same at the recurring level. Concession CapEx is pretty much known with 78 million. So that will not move. So with that, really the drop through is pretty material. Then once you look at what the interest costs are on a run-made basis, I think you know that we are running at around 105 million euros of pre-tax interest costs per annum. Add to that another 15 million between RCF and guarantees, you get to 120. That's not moving. So it's the same as it's lowered in last year. And then, of course, you've got taxes. I mean, leases are around 29 million per annum. So there's not – there are no really – it's a pretty – again, it's a pretty scalable – business now that we're seeing and online is accelerating. So it really, all the incrementally, the dollar really drops down through the cash net of taxes. And in terms of bolt-ons, I think this is, when you look at the levered pre-cash flow generation, so Our framework has been 30% of the adjusted net profit goes to dividends. It's pretty easy to model. And then the rest is basically bolt-ons and buybacks. And on the size of the bolt-ons, we'll look at this. We're working on the pipeline. It's definitely been at lower levels than what we've seen in 2024. We don't guide on that because it really depends on how we execute on that pipeline when maintaining price discipline. And then the rest is buybacks. So 2026 is, I think as a number of you have pointed out, it's an inflection point in terms of cash flow generation. We've seen that also in the graph that Guilherme showed earlier, showing the adjusted net profit evolution over time. And 2026, we'll see fewer extraordinaries given that also we've completed integration of PwO, so a big chunk of extraordinaries that basically will disappear.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Hi, Fabio. On the product, you're perfectly right. That is one of the key drivers of the growth of the market share, and of course that goes with the technology. What I can say is that we have a very healthy pipeline, especially on the part of what we call the L'Automatica core, so the Martech infrastructure that you have above the gaming platforms which allows to optimize the digital marketing and all its aspects to improve the risk management. All the things that are in the Automatica core are a key component of a key differentiating component a key part of our roadmap. Just a note of small note, the technical certification of the systems at a certain point will require for the entire market a slowdown of the new products launched on the market because basically you need to somehow freeze the product while it's been certified. um so that's that's in the the first part of the the first part of the in the first half ideally if the dates are confirmed but that's for the entire market but as an overall in 2026 the roadmap is on the product side is really strong and again I think you know we put some focus in the past and in the presentation of the Lottomatica Cora, that is a key area because we always think that you work on the product, of course you get new games for casino, you present them better, you improve the user experience, you present new bets, you know, then it's super important how you deliver that to your clients, to which clients you deliver them, how efficient and what level of efficacy of your digital marketing activities. So that's really a component which will become more and more important in the future. So that's the picture.

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Fabio Pavan
Analyst, Mediobanca

Thank you very much. Very clear.

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The next question is from Chiara Pampurini, Intermonta. Please go ahead.

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Chiara Pampurini
Analyst, Intermonte

Thank you. Good morning. You already gave us some information on how the consolidation process is progressing. You have taken the stake in sports bets. If I may ask, could you give us some color on how this is going on and if you are closing similar deals? And also, if you are seeing an increase in market share. Thank you.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Yeah, you want to go? You go. Okay, sorry.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Yeah, I mean, if you look at the sports bet, you know, we've taken a 20% stake. As you know, we have a pass to control over the period to get to 100% throughout the concession period. So that's how the deal structure works. We've taken a minority and we're very happy that... that the shareholders are staying in to continue to drive the business in a complementary way with ours. Are there any other deals like this? Yes, we look at them. We're in discussion for other potential deals, and as soon as we close them, we'll announce them. I think in terms of TOTOC, there's nothing really major to report. I think the market share has proven to be quite stable over the past few months. So there's nothing to report on that side.

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Chiara Pampurini
Analyst, Intermonte

Okay, thank you.

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The next question is from Andrew Tam, Rothschild Code, Edburn. Please go ahead.

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Andrew Tam
Analyst, Rothschild & Co

Hi, good morning, and thanks for taking my question. Just a quick clarification question on slide page four, just on the market share. I know you said you don't guide to the market share per se, but I guess the question is just in terms of the legacy brands, the current annual trajectory of the market share gains, would you say in 2026, Are there reasons for that to continue or do you believe that not to be the case given the new online concession model? And then just in terms of PWO, is the target there to recapture that one percentage point of share loss pre the migration? And are there any strategies or initiatives in play at the moment to recapture that?

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Hi Andrew, this is Guglielmo. Of course we don't guide, but the short answer is yes, we do believe that legacy brands have still room to grow also in 2026. On the specific point of PWO, what's our target? The target is to recover the entire 1%. So that's pretty much how it happened at the time for us. the Lotomatica slash better brand when we did the acquisition of the assets from IGT. And it's pretty much the same strategy, so refined through time. So when we finish, it's already in execution. When we finish the migration with the new product in place, we start the reactivation campaigns. of customers who had disappeared or reduced frequency or amount because of the noise of the migration with specific campaigns. Then we've extended the reactivation campaigns to customers that we had in the database and that had not been playing for a long time even before the migration to try to recover share also from that side because we could go and present to them a new product which we believe was better than the previous one and so that's another important campaign. So that's basically if you move aside the better quality of the product and of the offer in terms of what are the tools, you basically run dedicated campaign to these key clusters. So customers who have stopped playing during the migration, customers who have decreased frequency during the migration, customers who have decreased spend during the migrations, and customers who were lost before the migration but can be contacted again on the basis of a better offer. Then, of course, there are tons of ways to get there. I'm not getting into the details, but you use all the digital marketing levers to get there. But that's basically the principle. It started basically at the end of the migration. It will continue.

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Andrew Tam
Analyst, Rothschild & Co

Got it. And just to follow up on, you know, you mentioned the comment capturing more than 50% of the share losses from the tails. Do you expect that to continue into 2026 in terms of more of the same or even potentially for that to accelerate?

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

We, again, it's hard to get into detail because otherwise we would be guiding. We gave a a total size of the opportunity from the dates, which can be 7% to 10%, saying that we've already, you know, captured, signed two points. And, of course, you would... to do at least the fair share of that total pool at the end of the game, at least the fair share. We started better than that because we did more than the fair share, more than 50%, but that's the framework and then that's the data points. Then of course, Any other information would be a guidance.

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Andrew Tam
Analyst, Rothschild & Co

Perfect. Really appreciate it. Very helpful. Thank you. My pleasure. Bye, Andrew.

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The next question is from Pravin Gondale, Barclays. Please go ahead.

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Pravin Gondale
Analyst, Barclays

Hello. Thanks for taking my questions. Firstly, on online sports, so previously you talked about both retail and online combined in sports growing at sort of sustainable high single digit. But online has been bit softer in 2025. Could you please talk about what are you taking any sort of additional steps to drive that online growth in sports? And then secondly, on sports bet, you suggested that there are similar sort of deals in your M&A pipeline there. Could you talk about the size and potential valuation levels of those deals? Thank you very much.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Okay, I'll take it. Listen, I think, so if you look at the data in January for online sports, we've actually seen very good growth, not only in terms of GGR, but also in terms of performance in terms of handle. So if you look at them, I mean, the handle has grown roughly about 14%. We're talking about, if you look at our numbers that are disclosed, if you look at the market shares, and at the GGR level, it's grown 15%. So it's been... It's a pretty healthy market and we're continuing to see this trend even at a handle level. So I think this reflects the fact, and at the same time, sorry, retail, on the retail side, the sports retail business is growing faster than we had expected. So both at a handle level and at the GGR level. So on a combined basis, we're double digit in January, both at a handle level as well as at a GGR level. So This just gives you also the comfort that it continues to remain a very healthy market, a very healthy segment, and we'll continue to see this also grow. even after January. So it is definitely continuing to be a market that will continue to remain volatile by nature if you look at the GGR because you have volatility of results and you have different schedules of games that are being played between the periods that you compare. And as we've mentioned several times, if you look at the monthly GGR on a combined basis, it shows you that there's a very clear trend line for the sports business across both channels. And then the difference between the two, as we mentioned earlier, you know, iSports historically had grown faster. Last year it wasn't the case. the beginning of this year, localized sports is growing faster as previous years. As we had said from a contribution margin perspective, when GGR moves from one channel to the other, it doesn't really make much of a difference. It's very, the contribution margin for sports is very similar. So it is, you know, there is, we continue to believe that these are the right assumptions, that we have a growth of around 7% to 8% at a combined level for sports. And then the relative growth, naturally, as sports grow a little bit higher. As we've seen this year, actually, as sports has been growing double-digit. So in that sense, we confirm our thesis on this segment. In terms of size, if we talk about sports bets, we're talking about similar sizes. I mean, they're small. Just to answer very shortly the question, they're small businesses. They're sub-1% market share. So they're small businesses, and the valuation is definitely highly accretive to our business.

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Pravin Gondale
Analyst, Barclays

Thank you very much. This is really helpful, and congratulations on the results. Thank you.

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Conference Operator

The next question is from Domenico Gilotti, Equita. Please go ahead.

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Domenico Gilotti
Analyst, Equita

Good morning. A few questions. First of all, on the buyback, should we assume that you – so how is the approach if there is a retail tender? So I'm trying to understand if this will affect the pace of the buyback. And second, I have a question, well, on 2025 numbers, so if I look back at your original guidance, you wanted something like 100 million lower in terms of sales. So I'm trying to understand what has been performing differently compared to your initial expectation while EBITDA has been banking line. And third, on the 2026 guidance, if you can give us some... sense of the trend that you are expecting on gaming franchise and maybe even sport franchise. So I'm trying to understand if growth is coming only from online.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Okay, I can take this. The buyback will continue for as long as we continue to remain within our financial policy. We're quite mindful of that. So to the extent they'll be a tender, we'll look at the numbers, see how the leverage is impacted, and we'll act accordingly. I mean, it's pretty much a function of that. From a guidance to 25, the... If you compare it to the original guidances, I think as we mentioned in the third quarter results, it's pretty much the result of PWO being integrated earlier. So we realized the synergies earlier at the cost level, and therefore we had the impact at the revenue level earlier during the year, so throughout the year. We've seen a higher or more of an unfavorable impact on revenues, but a more favorable impact at a cost level thanks to this acceleration of the implementation of the synergies. Or 2026, I'd say online is really more of the same. I think it's been quite a number of quarters we've been seeing exactly the same trends. Online will continue to remain the growth engine. And retail, if you look at sports, sports retail, we continue to see that mid-single-digit growth. We've seen better so far since the beginning of this year, but obviously you have to factor in the volatility of the results. But, you know, it's been exceeding the expectations there. And for gaming retail, it depends on the level of bolt-ons that we'll see throughout the course of this year. Because if you don't do any bolt-ons, it's a business that will naturally decline sort of low to mid-single digits.

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Domenico Gilotti
Analyst, Equita

Okay. Thank you.

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The next question is from Andrea Bonsa, Banca Acros. Please go ahead.

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Andrea Bonsa
Analyst, Banca Akros

Hi, thank you. Good morning to everybody. Most of my questions have been answered. So if I may, just for the clarification on your guidance, let's say framework, if it's possible for you to specifically comment on the potential on the growth rate expectation for gaming, if it's that high teens, mid-teens, or low teens. And the second one is a clarification in your press release. You mentioned $300 million of buyback. In your NFP build-up, you mentioned $236 million. You can just comment on that. Thank you very much indeed.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Sure. I'll answer the second question first. We've done 300 million in 2025. The number you're referring to is what we've done in Q4. So in Q4, we've done 236. So the balance was done in Q3. As you know, we started towards the end of June. And so the remaining part was done before, was done in Q3. So that gives us, we've done all in all, 300 million of buybacks in 2025. In terms of guidance, so if we think about the guidance, so we will continue to see sort of online growth in the teams. And iGaming, you know, it is what we've seen, isn't it? January and February so far we've grown at 19%. I mean, the market has grown 19%. We've grown a bit faster than that. We expect to see here anywhere between mid to high teens of growth in this segment. Hopefully that helps frame it.

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Andrea Bonsa
Analyst, Banca Akros

Thank you very much and congratulations for the results and the guidance.

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Lorenzo Vallanca
CFO, Lottomatica Group

Thank you.

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The last question is from Richard Stuber, Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.

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Richard Stuber
Analyst, Deutsche Bank

Yeah, hi, good morning. Yeah, most of my questions have been already asked. And just one final one, a more general one on AI, if that's okay. Presumably you use it across most of your businesses. Could you say where it has been most impactful? And so there's gaming content now, so generally it's quicker and easier to make. Thank you.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Yeah, hi, Richard. This is William. Look, the impact of AI, I would say, is when you look at the business, then it has impacts on many other aspects of the company. It's mainly on the online business for the moment. It doesn't matter whether it's sports or it's gaming or it's digital marketing in general. Then, of course, you have impact also on logistics. You have impacts on... a bunch of internal processes. You have impact on customer care, which are across the businesses. You will have impact in the future on the production of games. I believe also for the retail gaming machines. But when you look at the core impact in terms of revenue potential, today you see that on all the segments of the online business. And spanning from risk management, so the agents that manage the risk, basically, to communication production of communication campaigns, to affiliate management, to content proposition on the casino. So there's really a ton of things. Then you specifically ask about one point which is, will AI make the production of games, assume you're referring to iGaming, so to casino basically, easier. Of course, yes. Which is not our part of business. We are, you know, it's a small part because we have some studios inside. Mostly we buy from outside providers, which we believe is a very good thing because if you, that's a very competitive environment. We have more than 100 providers, even have thousands of games. If these providers are able to design and launch new games which are better in the sense more effective and at a cheaper cost, then it's just good news for us and for the market. Because you can have access basically at better content at cheaper price, given the fact that this is a very competitive environment. So for that specific use, the answer is yes, and it's very good use for the ecosystem in general. But really the use of AI is not really limited to that. It really, as I mentioned to you, some cases, some use cases, it spans from every single angle of the company. We haven't really done an exercise or shared an exercise of showing what's been the impact of what we've done so far because we're approaching these – with a clear roadmap in mind, but from use cases which are coming bottom up. So what can be done is spread as knowledge throughout the company, the architecture allowing for that is there. but then everybody would ask for a specific use case, and if it makes sense, then it's developed. Otherwise, if it doesn't make sense, the investment case is not developed. But, you know, it's really already a very wide penetration across the board.

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Andrew Tam
Analyst, Rothschild & Co

That's very helpful. Thank you.

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Guglielmo Angelozzi
CEO, Lottomatica Group

Thank you very much.

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Mirko Senesi
Head of Investor Relations, Lottomatica Group

I think we are done with the Q&A, operator, so we can close the call. Thank you.

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Conference Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining. The conference is now over and you may disconnect your telephones.

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