10/27/2020

speaker
Päivi Antola
Head of Investor Relations, Nokian Tyres

Good afternoon from Helsinki and welcome to Nokian Tyres Q3 2020 results conference call. My name is Päivi Antola and I am the Head of Investor Relations in Nokian Tyres and together with me in this call I have Jukka Moisio, the President and CEO of the company and Teemu Kangaskärki, the CFO. Jukka, you have now been some five months the CEO of Nokian Tyres. What are your key impressions so far?

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Thank you, Päivi, for the question. And first of all, on my behalf, also welcome to this results call. So what are my feelings or thoughts right now? I would say that we are very much on track on doing things that we set out to do. So first of all, to try to sell more tires and focus on that. and also launch new products, because that is a lifeline of the company, and allows then the future volumes and better price points. But at times like these, when COVID is still around and hasn't disappeared, it's really important that we have been focusing on cost and cash flow, and I think that the important continued focus in that area will help us also in the fourth quarter and early into 2021. But my summary is that we are very much on track on doing things and executing the actions that we set out to do.

speaker
Päivi Antola
Head of Investor Relations, Nokian Tyres

Very good. And then let's move on to Q3. And as usual, start with the presentation, what we have prepared, and then continue with the Q&A. So, Jukka, please go ahead.

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Okay. Thank you, Päivi. I move to page two on our presentation and just reflect on the sales development. So our net sales are slightly below 350 million, somewhat behind 2019 third quarter. But if we take comparable currencies, we are about 3.3% ahead of prior year. Obviously, the market developed minus 2% in the third quarter in Europe. When we went into the quarter, we didn't quite expect that our revenues and net sales would develop so favorably. In fact, when we thought about the second half in the connection of the second quarter results announcement, we were expecting that the volumes and revenues will not recover to a level that we achieved in 2019 in the second half. Even though we had a very strong quarter in the third quarter, we are still quite cautious about the full second half. And the season hasn't really started yet, so obviously there are a number of uncertainties in the air in terms of what to expect from the fourth quarter. But having said that, we are pleased on the second quarter performance. Passenger car tire growth was driven by North America, Central Europe, and we had a relatively good performance in all business units in this volatile environment. Also in the third quarter what was helping our net sales development was that some of the sales that we had in 2019 in the second quarter shifted into third quarter in 2020. So there's some tailwind in the third quarter, which came from the second quarter of 2020. Operating profit at 69.3 million segments operating profit versus 74.9. slightly behind in 2019 performance and obviously we had some help from the raw materials clearly strong manufacturing performance and then cost cutting helped our cost side and then currencies were providing some headwind and also the big volumes in Russia Also of the quarter, the board decided the payment of a second dividend installment of 35 cents per share. If I move to page three, there is a summary of our financial performance. So things to point out from here is that cash flow from operating activities was positive 7.1 million versus 89 million negative in 2019, and also main reason to achieve that, you see below capital expenditure in the quarter, 31 million versus 88 million in 2019, and very good development of segments operating profit under the circumstances of 19.8% in the quarter versus 21.1% in 2019. a top-line advancement in the third quarter, 3.3% in constant currencies. And as I said, just to reiterate that when we went into the second half of the year, we didn't quite expect that the volume should recover so strongly. Still of the opinion that when we look at the fourth quarter, there are lots of uncertainties in the air, and so therefore we are of the opinion that the second half is unlikely to be stronger than... than previous year, but obviously still the final quarter is ahead of us. So uncertainty is there and we will see what we can do, but obviously aim for the best possible performance. From our point of view, of course, the key to achieve results and performance right now is to focus on cost. Surely we sell as many tires and want to sell as many tires as possible, and we focus on the revenue plan. and then working capital cash flow is something that is very, very important in this year. This is essentially the summary of financials, and now I hand over to Teemu. Ah, okay, I have still, sorry, page number four, where we have a little bit of the statistics in terms of new car sales, car tire sell-in and heavy tire segments, As you look through the various geographic areas, it is, in the first nine months of 2020, a negative development. As I mentioned, the tire sales in the third quarter was minus 2% in volume versus 2019, and our progress was 3.3%. That's in the summary. the financial and the market. And I hand over to Teemu to talk about the business segments. Go ahead Teemu.

speaker
Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

Thank you Jukka. So starting with the passenger car tires as usual and looking at our comparable net sales. The net sales increased close to 5% in the third quarter on a comparable currencies and assets. strong performance in North America, Central Europe, and also in the Nordics. In Russia, the net sales declined as planned because of the measures reducing the carryover stocks in the distribution channel, and now the stock level in the distribution in Russia has decreased, and we are expecting that to continue decrease in in the fourth quarter this year then moving to our segment operating profit we were on a level of 72 million couple of millions behind last year period there the russia is the main main driver that on top of the negative currency impact and then the lower raw material unit cost then was partly offsetting the negative headwind. Then in terms of our production in Russia, September was a record high production volume, so we start to reach the normalized level in our Russian factory. Then still in Finland, we have adjusted the production according to the demand still in the third quarter. Then moving to the net sales quarterly changes. And if we focus to the price mix development. So in the third quarter, our price mix was negative about point minus point three percent. There we had a favorable mix effect and then our price effect was negative and then the aggregate number is then slightly below last year in the price mix component. Currency in the third quarter had a major effect and as we all know for example the russian ruble is is significantly weaker and then on top of that other currencies in the third quarter are like weaker like norwegian ground usd as well as canadian dollar and then moving to to the passenger car tire Bridge impact. On the segment operating profit. Here you can see the biggest two components in terms of absolute euros. So material tailwind contributing about 11 million to the third quarter result positively and then the same amount. We lost in in the currency headwind. So all in all, PCT of segment operating profit $4 million down compared to the period last year. Then moving to the heavy tires business unit. In the third quarter, the comparable net sales development was minus 2%. And there the OEM says meaning the forestry was clearly down as we all know how that industry has been developing in the recent months. Then the positive side in the heavy tires in the third quarter was the good truck tire sales. Now when we are heading to the winter season that then offset the negative development in the forestry and agri side. The segment operating profit in the third quarter was almost on the same level than previous year's quarter on a level of 8 million euros. And then our third business unit, Vianor, We had a good performance in a typically low season, as we all remember the seasonality of our business there. Net sales was slightly down on a level of 67 million euros, and in percentages about 1% on the comparable currencies. Nevertheless, the segment operating loss was smaller than in third quarter 2019 on a level of minus 3 million. And there we have been able to adjust our seasonal workers in a good way in order to offset the declining top line. And as a reminder, We divested in U.S. our small Vienna network with 10 service centers. That was completed in August, and we now continue to sell the tires in the same service centers, but we are not operating those by ourselves. That was, in brief, the three business units in the third quarter.

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Thank you, Teemu. And I move to a final page to summarize our priorities, so page 10. So clearly, it's important that we keep on launching and developing new products, and we have a very strong pipeline. So every month and in coming quarters, we hope to introduce new products and launch them successfully. At the same time, it's important we focus on the key core competence and an area where we can make a difference, which is to sell more tires. But also if you think about the environment and the uncertainty related to COVID and so on, equally important it is that we keep cost in strict control and also that we protect our cash flow by making sure that we only invest what is necessary and at the same time manage our working capital well. Some activities are not necessary right now, so we can delay them and make sure that in that sense our organization focuses on the key activities and some of the development activities and so on we can delay and maybe do next year when even then things look better. Season is still ahead of us, so clearly the final quarter is season dependent. We are well prepared for the season, but it hasn't really started. Some snow in Finland, other countries, and surely we've seen demand peaking up a little bit, but it's still not yet the real winter, and so therefore some excitement is still ahead of us. But in summary, we can say that Q3 was good. We are pleased about that. It was better than we expected when we went into the quarter. And in that sense, at this moment, we are in a good position to enjoy what will come in the fourth quarter. But clearly, we focus on cost, we focus on cash flow, and we will make, of course, most of the season when it comes. This is in summary where we are.

speaker
Päivi Antola
Head of Investor Relations, Nokian Tyres

Thank you, Jukka. Thank you, Teemu. And now, operator, we would be ready for questions from the audience, please.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please dial 01 on your telephone keypads now to enter the queue. Once your name has been announced, you can ask your question. If you find it's been answered before it's your turn to speak, you can dial 02 to cancel. Our first question comes from the line of Akshet Kakar of JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Akshet Kakar
Analyst, JP Morgan

Hi, thank you for taking my questions. Akshat from JP Morgan. Three, please. The first one on the temporary layoffs in Finland. Is it possible to quantify how much benefit do you have from this temporary actions in Finland this year for the first nine months or the third quarter specifically? And how should we think about this going into the fourth quarter in 2021? How much flexibility do you still have on these programs? That's the first one. The second one is on Dayton and recruitment of the second shift there. Does this expand capacity to 1 million tires? And what is the associated cost of this ramp up that you forecast going into next year? And when do you plan to hit the 2 million units? And from what I remember, that was planned on three shifts. The third question is on the EBIT bridge for passenger cars. Can you detail out what is exactly within the minus 9 million bucket linked to supply chain impacts in the quarter, please? Thank you.

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

All right. So thank you for the questions. Let me start with the temporary layoffs in Finland. So obviously, Finland is a particular country where you can do that. We still have flexibility in the final quarter if the demand is weak and so on. We still have flexibility to do temporary layoffs if needed. We will see how the demand continues. We are not talking about significant millions here, so my guess, and this is not scientific, in the range of 3 million max, what we can get out of this one. And then you asked about Dayton. The second shift is being hired right now. So as we speak, we hope to be fully on two shift operations starting 2021. And then the final two million capacity will require three shifts. And we expect that during the course of 2022, assuming that the demand evolves, that we will be there. we have the question at which point we trigger expansion equipment, so that we can actually move from 2 million to 4 million. But this is something that needs to be decided during the course of 2021-2022, and there is certainly time when we get to that 4 million tyres. What the cost impact of that is essentially, in direct employee, Less than five million, I would say. But then, of course, there are other operating costs and so on.

speaker
Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

Teemu, if you take the bridge question and regarding the supply chain block there. As you all know, the supply or the COGS piece in general, that represents the biggest cost item for Nokia and tires. And then if we take away The Roman raw material unit cost, which is then included in the in the 11 million positive development and then looking at the components in the bridge like the volume price mix SG&A that is and currency. Then the residual is in the supply chain pocket and there you can see for example the. But one part of the explanation is that factory under absorption in the third quarter. But there are also other supply chain related costs.

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Akshet Kakar
Analyst, JP Morgan

Understood. If I could just follow up on the temporary benefits. I think you said you expect a maximum of 3 million in the fourth quarter. Is that right?

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

The full year level, maximum 3 million.

speaker
Akshet Kakar
Analyst, JP Morgan

Okay, the full year level in terms of temporary benefits.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Yeah, because the temporary layoffs are not as such. I mean, they are an efficient way to regulate the capacity, but in terms of how much you save in cost, it's not a significant cost item. It will help for its part, but it's not in absolute euros. It's not significant.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Understood. Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Matthias Holbein of D&B. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Matthias Holbein
Analyst, D&B

Thank you. Hello everyone. So on the raw material side, we see in the bridge and as you mentioned that the prices and costs are down quite considerably, but you seem to have been able to keep this for yourself and not having to let that pass through to your own pricing. Is this a result of a lag or do you believe that you will be able to maintain the slower prices yourself?

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

So in our forecast for the fourth quarter is that the raw material prices continue to be on a level as in the third quarter. And then in terms of pricing, all the prices are more or less fixed for this year. And then going to next year, that's then a different story. And maybe just to share with you the current year of the raw material prices in 2020. 2021, we are expecting to see an increase in raw material prices in 2021.

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Matthias Holbein
Analyst, D&B

Great. And a second question for me on the dividend, just to be clear, I read in the statement that it could be sort of the remaining 0.79 euros that was discussed earlier this year could be made in one or several installments. So just to be clear, is this 0.35 euro announced today, is that sort of the final or could there be an additional installment beyond this?

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

I believe that this is final, so there is no additional installments this year. Thank you. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Thomas Besson of Kepler Schaffer. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Thomas Besson
Analyst, Kepler Schaffer

Thank you very much, Thomas Besson at Kepler Schaffer. I have two questions, please. The first one is on your North American performance in Q3. Your volumes seem to have jumped dramatically more than the market, while in the first half they had underperformed the market. Can you explain if that's part of what you were talking about in terms of elements shifting from Q2 to Q3 and elaborate on whether there's any one-off linked with these Q3 volumes and whether you expect A similar development in Q4 in North America is in Q3. So basically explain a bit more of this very substantial jump in the region. The second question is about the bad debt. You've reported, I think, 4 million in Q3. Can you talk about that, whether you believe... Q4 and in 2021, or whether this is well under control, and we have seen most of it now. Many thanks.

speaker
Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

The first question was regarding the North American and sales, and you rightly pointed out that partly is the shift from Q2 to Q3, and then it's also good to remember what I've been saying in earlier discussions that our customer base is more concentrated than maybe in other companies' customer base. So when they are doing their internal decisions, how they want to stock, that will influence our sale ease. So those are a couple of reasons explaining the North American sales development. Then, in terms of the second question, the bad debt development. So, as discussed in the Q2 call, these are the bad debts provision that we foresee, so they are not yet realized, bad debts. But now, when all the companies have introduced since 2018 the IFRS 9, approach where we we need to start providing bad debts provision according to the IFRS rule so this is the fact that we have seen now this year increasing the bad debt provision and most likely it continues in the in the fourth quarter as well okay thank you

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Artem Beletsky of SCB. Please go ahead, your line is open.

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Artem Beletsky
Analyst, SCB

Yes, hi, this is Artem from SCB. Three questions from my side. So first of all, you talk about some sales shift from Q2 to Q3. Would it be possible to maybe quantify what has been the magnitude of it? The second question is relating to mix side of your operation. So you stated that your mix improved year over year. Is it fair to assume that your mix will be also improving going forward, as you are talking quite a lot about your product introductions? And maybe just a number, if you could provide on how much your mix improved in Q3. And lastly, regarding, let's say, big focus on working capital and the cash flow of the company. So in Q3, your inventories were down by 20%. I think trade receivables more than that. Do you see much of a potential to squeeze further or basically improve your working capital in the company?

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Okay, so I'll take that shift from Q2 to Q3. So clearly there was some, it's difficult to quantify, but I would say it's a single digit percentage of the total volume that we talked about, but there clearly was some shift. Scientifically, it's difficult to quantify, but just to let everybody know that that did happen. Mix is improving because we obviously have less sales in Russia and then other markets which are higher value, higher ASP, and that's how the mix improvement is also visible. Currency, of course, is another one which we then see as an item which was discussed. In terms of launching new products, I think that we are in the moment of launching them, so many of them will be introduced for the summer next year or season next year and so on, so many of those launches don't have an impact right now, but they will have an impact in coming quarters.

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

And in terms of working capital efficiency, Clearly, that will be our focus area also, not only short-term, but also mid-term, because maybe in the past the working capital component hasn't been that actively managed, but now it is in the core of our focus.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

And that's part of the story that we move into return on capital employed type of a target setting, and that's why the working capital. asset velocity and all those matters are quite important and so address them and of course the TEMS team has started to work with our our business teams quite intensively on these matters all right very good thank you thank you our next question comes from the line of Gabriel Adler at Citigroup please go ahead your line is open

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Gabriel Adler
Analyst, Citigroup

Hi, thanks. Gabriel Adler from Citigroup. My first question is on Russia. Could you help us understand the level of wind tire inventories in the distribution channels in Russia, following the effort you've made to normalize stock levels? Because you mentioned further declines will be required in Q4. Will this be a similar level of declines that we saw in Q3, or are we getting close now to normal levels of inventory in the channels there? And my second question is on the comments of top line being a priority for the company. Can you comment please on what this means for margins in the coming years? Because clearly margins in Q3 were very strong, but do you think mid-term the business is able to recover to say 20% plus margin while at the same time prioritizing top line growth? Thank you.

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Yeah, I think if you start with Russia, we had a plan when we went into the year that we get to a normalized inventory level in the pipeline and we are very much on on track to do that and clearly we made progress in the previous quarters and we expect that by the end of the year of course this assumes that the season is relatively normal it's not doesn't have to be aggressively positive doesn't but if it's a strongly negative so it's also has an impact, but basically we are on track to achieve the target level by the end of the year. When it comes to the margin profile, then obviously we said earlier and we haven't gone really looking into strategic targets at this point of time, so we believe that 20% margin can be achievable. We haven't done a lot of work at these times. On that one, we will revisit the targets in 2021 when the situation with COVID hopefully is behind us and we can go back to normalize the operation. But at this point of time, we set the bar at the level that 20% can be achieved. But that will be and needs to be confirmed in 2021. Okay, great.

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Gabriel Adler
Analyst, Citigroup

Thank you very much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Henning Kostmann of HSBC. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Henning Kostmann
Analyst, HSBC

Hi, good afternoon. Thank you for taking the question. I just have a clarification, really. In your opening remarks, you said that you're still not sure. In fact, you expect that the second half this year will still remain below the second half last year. No. It's good, of course, to see you match the volumes virtually of last year, exceed them quite significantly in the U.S. and some regions outside of Russia. I think Temu also said that pricing should be OK in the fourth quarter. So I was hoping we could just explore a little bit more where your reservations lie. Obviously, the winter season last year isn't a very difficult comp. you're saying you're ready to take opportunities when the season comes. So is it really just fully attributable to uncertainty around how cold and snowy the winter will be? Or are there any particular regions or product segments where your reservations are mainly attributable? Thank you.

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

We are basically... looking at the environment and of course very careful about the COVID and the environment obviously the season hasn't started so that is always but it's every year with us so therefore of course everybody knows that this is something that will come either strong or weaker or normal but at this point of time when we went into the second half we expected that the volume will not fully recover to 2019 level now we are very pleased with the third quarter performance and what we are saying is that still nevertheless we would be happy to be pleased with the fourth quarter performance but it's not achieved yet so we have a number of weeks and months to a couple of months to make it happen. And it's sufficient to be careful at this point, simply because the uncertainty in terms of the demand picture is there. Are we ready to grab the opportunities? Yes, we are. Do we have the cost competitiveness? Yes, we have. Do we focus on cash flow? Yes, we do. But nevertheless, the uncertainty and that is around us. And having said that, again, I just want to emphasize that we are very pleased with the third quarter performance.

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

Maybe building on what Jukka just said, we shouldn't be expecting any kind of a similar shift from Q3 to Q4 like we did in Q3 from Q2. So that needs to be taken into account.

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Henning Kostmann
Analyst, HSBC

Sorry, that would have been my other question. So when you talked about your customer concentration, this wasn't meant to indicate that there was possibly a bit of a pull forward where now your concentrated customers have now taken a lot of the sell-in and will potentially be taking a little bit less into Q4 in turn. That's not what you were implying then, is it?

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

No, we try to run pretty normally, so we have no extra push or anything of the volumes. We run as the customers run, so we match our run to our customers.

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Henning Kostmann
Analyst, HSBC

Okay, thank you very much.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Pierre-Yves Kemenet of Mindfirst. Please go ahead, your line is open.

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Pierre-Yves Kemenet
Analyst, Mindfirst

Yes, good afternoon to you. This is Pierre-Yves with Mindfirst. I would need to come back on the price mix versus the raw material development over the full year. Over the first three quarters of the year, you have price a very minimal price mix headwind of minus four million but you have you had a significant Roma tailwind a cumulative one of 20 million over the first nine months I just struggle to understand how that is possible to maintain and to carry over into the next quarter into next year don't we have to expect at some point that one of the two buckets needs to give, either on the price mix that needs to go down, or on the roadmap that needs to go up, or be a headwind. That would be my only question. Thank you.

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Didn't you draw the conclusions? I mean, I understand what you were saying, but didn't you draw the conclusion as well? But on the other hand, of course, it's important that the pricing of our products and the markets is aligned with the market pricing. And then when we operate and have a competitive raw material cost, so part of that is our own sourcing, part of that is currencies, and part of that is where we operate and make the products. And of course, a significant part of our production is in Russia. where the currency is soft.

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Pierre-Yves Kemenet
Analyst, Mindfirst

All right. So, if I understand correctly, what Teemu said, ROMAT should become a headwind, at least for the first part of 2021, correct?

speaker
Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

So, my comment was for the full year 21.

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Pierre-Yves Kemenet
Analyst, Mindfirst

Full year 21. All right.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

So far it's difficult to say what will happen. I think Teemu was saying that the latter part of this year will be competitive and then early part of next year we will see. But then whole year 2021, assuming that the economies recover, there will be increased raw material.

speaker
Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

For the whole year?

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Yeah. Expectations. May not happen. Okay.

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Pierre-Yves Kemenet
Analyst, Mindfirst

Just one last, just squeezing if I may. because the other surprising bucket in your bridge has been obviously volumes, at least for me, but obviously for consensus as well. Can we be sure that there has not been any inventory building in the third quarter into the network explaining the very strong 5.5% volume effect, no inventory building there? Nothing you should be concerned about?

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

I think that this is probably one of the areas where we have tried to be very careful, extraordinary conservative, not shipping into pipeline or inventory. And it's been one of the most important things that we paid attention throughout our system, that the inventories in the pipeline should be quite competitive and at good level.

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Pierre-Yves Kemenet
Analyst, Mindfirst

Okay. Thank you, Jukka. Thank you, Teemu.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of . Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Unknown
Participant

Oh, yeah. Hi. Well, can you please say something regarding the market demand now in October? So has it been about the same than already seen in September or maybe a bit weaker in October, which actually could be the reason for your course fee for the fourth quarter and how this in October now is compared to the year earlier period in last year? And maybe if I make a couple of more related to the third quarter. I mean, were there any kind of extra items related to corona? So have you actually received some corona support from the state in the third quarter? And if there were, what was the figure? And lastly, regarding the dividend payment, I mean, I hear that you are saying that no further dividend payments is going to be there before the year end, but is there a technical chance to pay something before the next AGM still after the year change?

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Thanks. The two last questions, I can respond. The answer is on the dividend, no, and also any support for corona, the answer is no. Teemu, October.

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

So I would say that in the fourth quarter, the November is also a key month. So I wouldn't like to comment one specific month within the quarter.

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Unknown
Participant

Yeah, that's clear. Thanks.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Tessa at One Investments. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Peter Tessa
Analyst, One Investments

Hi. Just a couple questions, please. One is on Central Europe. If you could just talk a bit about the good performance in Central Europe for you and the extent to which this is your broader distribution or how the product mix has worked on there and then whether you're getting any comment on reorders or sell-throughs as you serve Central Europe. And then the second question is just on working capital. You had quite a good move in payables helping the cash flow this quarter, and you've brought inventories down from a year ago. If you could just give a sense of what your you think you can achieve working capital-wise as we go into the year-end? And then lastly, just if there's any comment you can make on the mark-to-market of FX, just to take that uncertainty out as people try and understand the FX at current rates. Thank you.

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

So if I start with the working capital part, and you mentioned the payables, That is an area where we have been focusing this year in order to improve the payment terms and that work still continues. So we are in the beginning of the of the of the journey and then in terms of working capital as you know. We have the high seasonality there and and especially our trade receivables will go down towards the year end when the the payments are due, so there is a clear change.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Then you asked about the Central Europe reasons behind the good volume. Obviously what happened was that we historically didn't have such a good product offer so obviously now when some of the products have been launched prior past year and even before those are now carrying us today and based on the work we've done with focusing and improving our activities in the sell-out and helping our customers and the distribution in sell-out has helped our volumes as well. We are quite pleased with the performance and we expect that the Central European performance continues at a strong level. In that sense, of course, there was some shift from the second quarter to the third quarter, but the overall improvements that we have done in our central Europe under the leadership of Bari, who joined in late 2019, those improvements and benefits are now starting to become visible in our performance.

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Peter Tessa
Analyst, One Investments

especially in eastern europe so clearly poland and czechia and so on those were good performers right okay and then on the fx is there any mark to market you can give just so we've got some you can just take that out of the bridge and just don't have the uncertainty thank you for thank you for there i think yeah that the russian ruble is is the

speaker
Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

biggest swing factor and I don't want to comment where the forex is going.

speaker
Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Sure. Obviously, the ruble is related a little bit on the oil price and so on, so it appears that when the oil price goes up, so ruble gets stronger and so, but it's really difficult to anticipate. Maybe the best is to anticipate that they are at the level that they are right now.

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

That's how I tend to be, that I don't try to guess the coming quarters or months.

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Peter Tessa
Analyst, One Investments

No, indeed. That was my question. If you take the current levels, just so we understand what it is here, and then whatever happens, happens. But at least people try to model the FX impact. If you knew, say, where we are now and the ruble were to stay, what that would mean for FX and Q4.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

More or less what you see is what the ruble does at current levels.

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Peter Tessa
Analyst, One Investments

Okay. Bye. Okay. No, thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Okay, and we have a follow-up from Thomas Pesson of Kepler-Schaffer. Please go ahead, your line is open.

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Thomas Besson
Analyst, Kepler Schaffer

Thomas Pesson Thank you. I understand you don't want to talk about monthly developments, but when we look at Q3, it seems that July and August developed more or less as everybody expected, and then September was phenomenal. Is that true for you as well, or has it been a more linear development?

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

We would say that from our point of view, the development has been more linear than in previous years. So quite a linear development, but yes, typically the historical has been a quarter-end push, but now there was a more linear development on July, August, September. That helps, of course, the supply chain in terms of cost and so on. Not ideal, but improved.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Jacks at Blizzard Securities. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Michael Jacks
Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Good afternoon, everybody. Michael from Bank of America Securities here. If I can please just go back to the discussion around raw materials and working capital. Notwithstanding the improvement in cash flow from operations against the comparative period, Can you please just try to help unpack the seemingly low cash conversion in Q3? I'm struggling to reconcile the working capital outflows in the cash flow statement with fairly substantial decreases in inventories and trade receivables. So if you could please just provide some color on that. And then my second question is just in relation to... the disposal of the US units in TNO. Can you just give us an indication of what sort of contribution this made to Group EBIT in 2020 year to date? Thank you.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

The working capital receivables.

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

Yeah, so the receivables in the third quarter, as you know, the pattern that the receivables are peaking at the end of Q3 and then going down into Q4 when we collect the money. And then this year what has impacted our residual development is naturally our sales, which is slightly different than in prior years. I don't know if that answers your question, but if not, then I will continue.

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Michael Jacks
Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Perhaps it's on that raw material question. Maybe if I can just ask it another way. Should we then expect a much stronger cash flow from operating performance in Q4 relative to the operating profit result, i.e., will there be some catch-up from Q3?

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

So we are expecting to have a strong cash flow Cash flow development towards the year end, yeah.

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Michael Jacks
Analyst, Bank of America Securities

Thank you very much.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Yeah, typically we collect receivables towards the year end. That's why it's also beneficial to pay the dividend in December.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Madolai Rekki of Danske Bank. Please go ahead, your line is open.

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Madolai Rekki
Analyst, Danske Bank

Yes, it's from Danske Bank. I have three questions. So firstly, just to understand why the volumes increased in Q3, can you talk about what products actually were that you sold in Q3? Was it summer, all season, or winter pre-RS? And then secondly, if it was winter that was driving volumes up, as I believe based on your mix, then what's your view? Why did you perform better than your peers who have generally commented that demand for winter tires is lower, especially in Europe this year. And then thirdly, on Rasa, I believe there is a change in the tire marking regulation that will be implemented quite soon. What's your view on the impact on the markets from this? Thanks.

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

If I start with the mixed development, as we commented in our release that the share of winter tire sales decreased. That means that then the summer and all season were increasing, and that is the case. Both summer and all season increased. And then in the winter there was a mix between regions. So Russia was down and then North America was up, even though the absolute volume in winter was then flat.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

And then you were asking about the competition, talking about the winter season and so on. So obviously those comments were made earlier. So I think that that's something that how they saw the market development. We at this point of time, because the season hasn't really started, so we haven't really seen any strong weakness or any strong upside in the winter. So we are prepared to take the opportunity when it comes. You surely have expect to have availability in case it comes in strong and so on uh cannot cannot comment on the competitors we have that what their availability is and so on but we are relatively well positioned for the winter and then you had the question regarding the tire marking in russia so yes that is uh coming into force in in in few weeks time and uh

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Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

And even though midterm, as we have said that it is a positive thing for the established players, but at least in the beginning, it will be an operational headache for all the players because of the new regulations and how we can implement those.

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

More work to ship the tires to distribution and customers.

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Madolai Rekki
Analyst, Danske Bank

So you don't expect much benefit for this season yet from that, or how should we think about that? Like in terms of reduced competition and reduced exports to the country?

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Maybe not immediately. I think immediately is probably to get the shipments and the volumes, and then maybe later on when the certain competitors or people cannot meet the regulations, and then there may be a benefit. But immediately, no.

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Madolai Rekki
Analyst, Danske Bank

All right. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. Once again, if there are any final questions on the line, please dial 01 on your telephone keypads now. And we've got one question coming through so far. That's a follow-up from Artin Bilecki of SEP. Please go ahead. Your line is open.

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Artem Beletsky
Analyst, SCB

Yes, hi. Want to follow up from my side. So is he talking about second half being weaker compared to last year? Could you maybe clarify whether you are talking about volume development or basically EBIT level versus 2019?

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Jukka Moisio
President and CEO, Nokian Tyres

Talk about the volume development first, and then we look at the cost and raw materials and prices and so on. But really what we talk about is the market momentum, that how did we see the market momentum when we went into the second half? And so in the third quarter, the market was about minus 2% versus prior year. We will see how that evolves in the final quarter.

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Artem Beletsky
Analyst, SCB

Okay, very clear. Thank you.

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Operator
Conference Operator

Thank you. And as there are no further questions coming through at this time, I'll hand back to our speakers for the closing comments.

speaker
Päivi Antola
Head of Investor Relations, Nokian Tyres

Thank you, everybody, for participating in this call. Thank you, Jukka, and thank you, Teemu. And this ends today's conference call. Have a good day.

speaker
Teemu Kangaskärki
CFO, Nokian Tyres

Thank you. Thank you.

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