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Good morning and welcome to this presentation of Pexip's third quarter results. My name is Trond Johansson and I'm the CEO. Together with me here at Lysaker today, I have Øystein Hem, our CFO, and Osmund Fodstad, our Chief Revenue Officer. Together, we will take you through the highlights of the past quarter and what we are focusing on going forward. The standard disclaimers apply as usual. Before going into the details of the third quarter, let me give you an overview of what Pexip is about. We were founded in 2011 and currently we operate with 286 employees located in 25 countries across the globe. We are a specialist video conferencing player focusing on interoperability and secure and custom spaces. We do software only delivered as a software or as a service. Pexip has unique and established partnerships with the leading companies in our industry. We complement and enhance their solutions and do not generally compete with them. Our customers are mainly large organizations, both in the public sector and private sector, that have complex needs when it comes to video collaboration. Now to the highlights of the quarter. Our annual recurring revenues grew with 2.4 million US dollars during the quarter and leaves us with an ARR base of $109.5 million leaving Q3. Both business areas have double digit growth year over year and contributed well in the quarter. EBITDA came in at 18.1 million Norwegian kroner in the quarter, This includes a few notable items around share option costs and revenue mix that has impacted EBITDA negatively with around 15 million in the quarter. Adjusted for this, we are at 33 million in EBITDA. Cash flow ended at 7.8 million in the quarter, an improvement of 18 million compared to Q3 last year. Our newly launched product in connected spaces, Connect for Zoom Rooms, is off to a very good start in the market. And we have also officially launched our partnership with RingCentral in Q3, enabling RingCentral Rooms to join Teams meetings with excellent quality. If we look at our Q3 performance in the context of the last 12 months, we see that the positive trend we have seen the last quarters continues. Our ARR has grown 10% since the end of Q3 last year and is at an all-time high. The underlying ARR has grown 12%. Our 12-month rolling EBITDA reached 178 million, which corresponds to a 17% EBITDA margin. And finally, our free cash flow the last 12 months was 209 million Norwegian kroner, a 140 million Norwegian kroner improvement since Q3 last year. We take this performance as evidence that we are operating in attractive markets with relevant products and a strong market position. Let's talk some more about that. Pexip's mission is to make seamless video communication available to all organizations regardless of technology platforms and security requirements. We have two main solution areas, Pexip connected spaces and Pexip secure and custom spaces. Let me say a few words about the market in both these areas. First, connected spaces. Our goal at TechSIP is to make sure that when people use meeting rooms, they don't have to think about what kind of equipment is in the room or what type of video meeting they are joining. We want everything to work just seamlessly, and we call this any room to any meeting. To make this happen, we work closely with the other industry players to create solid, reliable, and certified solutions. We continue to make good progress on this. And just this week, Microsoft launched their one-touch join support for Microsoft Teams Rooms when using Pexip, making it a lot easier for customers to join Zoom and other meeting platforms when using their MTRs with a high-quality experience. RingCentral Rooms are now also enabled to join Teams meetings. Pexip has a strong market position in an attractive and growing connected spaces market. Let me elaborate. The total available market for software solutions used in video room systems is around $3 billion, with an annual growth rate of around 15%. Pexip has a unique offering in the market with a superior user experience, coverage of all relevant use cases, and the flexibility and hosting that only Pexip provides. Our established industry partnerships form the basis for the strong market position, and new opportunities continuously emerge from these close relationships. Continuing a bit on the partnership topic, our recent recognition as Independent Software Vendor of the Year and Azure Marketplace Global Partner Finalist are tangible signs of how we are appreciated by Microsoft as a key partner. Now, let me move over to our second business area, secure and custom solutions. In the secure meetings area, we continue to see that the concept of having more than one video meeting platform is increasingly gaining momentum in the market. The awareness around how different meetings may require different solutions is growing. As a consequence of this, organizations are looking to complement their primary cloud-based video meeting platform with a secure meeting solution that has tailored user authentication, clear meeting classification, labeling, and where complete control over data is achieved. Pexip Private AI for secure meetings is available for purchase now in November. This solution is developed as a response to requests from very security conscious organizations that would like to use AI tools, but with complete control over where the data goes. The solution is built on NVIDIA AI models and can be hosted in a private deployment with complete data control. Neither Pexip nor NVIDIA will have any access to any data. In addition, the solution allows for customer specific language libraries for more accurate results. The first use case is around captioning, or speech-to-text, and translated speech-to-text. Next up is speech-to-speech translation. With that, let me leave it to Osmund to give us a sales update.

Thank you, Trond. Good morning, everyone. Let's look at the sales updates. Happy to announce another fantastic quarter with great wins for Pexip in Q3. For connected spaces, we delivered a $1.5 million ARR growth to $66.8 million. That is an 11% growth year over year. Pexip enjoy continued growth in this space because of these main reasons. Number one, Pexip have a unique technology and are being recognized as the leader in this space with far better user experience than any competitor. We see a strong uptake with our FedRAMP solution, which is a sovereign cloud in the US for federal and public sector, but also started to see traction from large enterprises working within the defense industry and the public sector who wants the same experience and security. And lastly, the strategic partnerships, especially with Microsoft, HP, Poly, and now also with Zoom, where we win Fortune 500 logos together. Let's have a closer look at one of the Q3 wins within connected spaces. HSBC is another Fortune 500 customer into the Pexip family. This is a flagship customer for Zoom and for Microsoft. And the fact that the three of us are cooperating for setting the new standard for interop is exciting and a huge improvement for these users of video meetings. So how does actually Pixiv win such a logo? These customers have multiple video meetings across different technologies and especially Zoom rooms to Microsoft Teams meetings. Pegsip's technology resolves all those use cases for the customers in an elegant way. Pegsip is significantly improving the user experience for their employees, both with how you join the meeting, but it also enhances the meeting experience in itself. It basically gives them a better return on their soon investment as the PECSIP solution always works across any technology. And in fact, for HSBC, reducing the support load for IT was a strong additional argument to deploy PECSIP. For the use case for HSBC is a very familiar case for many of the large enterprises. Pixip are of course excited about the HSBC win in itself, as well as the fast growing pipeline we have seen for Connect for Zoom rooms. Going forward, the new product Connect for Microsoft Teams Rooms that were released this week expands further our offering in connected spaces and makes Pexip expect continued growth in this space. Let's now have a look at the secure and custom. We are reporting another strong quarter for Pexip in Secure and Custom with a 1.3 million US dollar AR growth to 41 million US dollars. It's a 15% growth year over year. Main reasons for our continued growth in this space is number one, the need for secure video meetings where Pexip's technology is second to none. That continues to be the main growth driver. Second, the Pexip technology gives any organization the full flexibility of their definition of secure, as well as their preferred deployment methods, on-premise, air-gapped, or self-hosted, while maintaining full control of their data. Pexip is the only one offering this flexibility in secure spaces. And lastly, we see increased usage and upsell within our install base, as well as sales to new secure environments, like the first virtual court sale outside of Europe. Let's also have a closer look at one of the Q3 wins for secure spaces. Pexi, one of the largest naval defense forces in Europe. Naturally, I cannot name the customer itself. Why does Pexip win a customer like this and what is their use case? Number one, Pexip has the leading technology for secure video meetings. Pexip offers advanced security features, ensuring that the right person is in the right meeting at the right time. Pexip offers an attribute-based access control, so-called ABAC, allowing the customer to admit or deny participants based on authentication and privileges set via an external policy. This is extremely important in the defense segment. And lastly, PIX's unique integration capabilities increases the security of the video meeting in itself and ensures fast collaboration whilst maintaining the highest threshold of data security across multiple domains. PIX is proud to be chosen as a secure video meeting provider to these kind of customers and continue to see growth both in the defense sector and of course in secure spaces going forward. And with that, I will hand it over to Øystein for the financial update. Øystein.

Thank you, Osman. Starting off with annual recurring revenues, we grew the ARR base with $2.4 million in Q3, and we closed the quarter at $109.5 million. With this, we are at 10% growth in ARR year on year, in line with our growth ambitions for 2025 and onwards. In terms of products, this was a very strong quarter for software asset service. As a service, ARR grew 3.3 million, while software ARR is down 0.8 million. In terms of geo distribution, all three regions had growth this quarter, with Americas and Europe contributing the most. Separating the development in the two business areas, Connected Spaces and Legacy combined grew $1.2 million, with Connected Spaces increasing $1.5 million and Legacy decreasing with $0.3 million. The dynamics is similar to previous quarters, with growth coming from strong new sales compensating for net retention below 100%. Secure and Custom grew $1.3 million, driven by new customers. On existing customers, several good upsells compensated for the churn on other accounts, leading to a net retention rate of 100%. Moving over to the P&L. Revenues continued to grow, and in Q3, they were 228 million NOC, up 6%. This is a combination of 22% growth on software as a service and a reduction of 13% on software due to the shift in the ARR mix of the two products. Gross margins increased with 15 million NOC, and EBITDA increased with 8 million NOC. On a 12-month basis, revenues are up 11%, in line with the ARR growth, and we're now at 17% adjusted EBITDA margin, moving towards our 2025 ambition of 20% or higher margins. There are two notable items that impacted Q3 EBITDA that are out of the order. One is an 8 million NOC increase in share option costs, resulting from increased employer tax accruals in the quarter. The share price increased almost 10 NOC in the quarter, and this increased the accrued gains in the company's share option program. The other is a reduction in software revenues, resulting from a shift in the mix between software and software as a service. As around 80% of the revenues from a software contract is recognized at delivery, a shift towards as a service means that revenue and EBITDA benefit is delayed. It's important to note that the underlying cash flow profile is the same on software and software as a service, and the vast majority of both areas is based on prepaid one-year contracts. However, with software as a service, the immediate benefit is a working capital improvement, while for software, you will see the impact on the P&L the quarter the contract is delivered. In Q3, a key driver was good take up of our FedRAMP service in the US, which has seen several existing software customers move towards Pexip secure government cloud. Even with those two items, we continue to convert revenue growth into improved profits at a strong pace. So far this year, we have increased revenues with 78 million NOC and gross profits with 70 million. EBITDA is up 64 million in the same period, which is 83% of the revenue growth. This continues to be the core of our financial strategy, aiming at 10% or higher revenue growth and combining this with good cost control to generate growth in earnings. On operating costs, operational improvements have offset the impact of inflation, leading to a stable cost base compared to Q3 of last year. We have a slightly lower headcount than last year, leading to a reduction in fixed salary. However, we also have higher variable salary cost from higher target achievement compared to last year. Both salary expenses and other OPEX are slightly down compared to last year, while share option costs are up. Looking at cash flow, Q3 saw an improvement of 18 million NOC compared to Q3 of last year. And for Q3, approximately 8 million NOC in free cash flow in the quarter. The overall improvement is a result of higher profits. It's also worth noting that investment cash flow is 8 million higher than in Q3 of last year. This is mainly due to delayed R&D tax credits from the Norwegian government. We expect those at the same level as last year, and that 5 million NOK will come in during Q4. To summarize the main points, revenues are up 14 million NOK, or 6%, and EBITDA, excluding other gains and losses, are up 8 million NOK. Depreciation is down $8 million as historic investments have been fully depreciated. The positive $13 million knock on net financials is from a combination of exchange gains as well as received interest on cash holdings. The net result is a profit before tax of $9 million knock, up $34 million knock compared to last year. With that, I will give the word back to Trond for our outlook and targets.

Thank you, Erstein. We see a continued positive market outlook in both connected spaces and secure and custom spaces. And we are confident that our place in the ecosystem and the current and new partnerships will continue to drive growth. Looking into Q4, our best estimate is that we will end the year in the range of 111 to 114 million US dollars in ARR. For EBITDA, we narrow the guiding range to 17 to 20% EBITDA margin for 2024. The 2025 and onwards targets of constantly delivering above 10% ARR growth and above 20% EBITDA margin remain in place. And that concludes our presentation. Before going to Q&A, we will present our Q4 on February 13th next year, just to make a note of that. And then I believe Q&A is up, Øystein?

Yes it is.

We're happy to be joined by some of the analysts live on the stream, so we'll start off with the questions from them before taking some that are received by email. Christian, are you on the call? If you are, we can't hear you. We have some technical difficulties, but our team is working on connecting the audio. In case it is a question with Christian, we'll move on to Jørgen from Pareto. Jørgen, are you on the call?

Yes, hello guys. Can you hear me? Great. Thank you so much for the presentation and taking my questions. So first I'd like to say that it's great to see the initial feedback on Connect for Zoom rooms being so positive. but could you provide a little bit of color on what sort of customers you have won? Are there a lot of small contracts or a few bigger ones?

Actually, it's a good combination, which makes us even more positive about the pipeline. We've seen, like the HSBCs that we just spoke about, so a couple of the larger ones, and then a good chunk of medium-sized customers is what we like to call them. But the Zoom portfolio is full of everything from SMB to these large Fortune 500 good logos, so a good spread.

Okay, great. And then I'd also like to highlight that you had a significant contribution from Connect for Zoom right now into the ARR base. But with ARR ending on expectations, that implies that there are some older products that are not performing as well as at least we had expected. So could you please give some color on, are there some underlying changes or should we just put this in the buckets of natural, lumpy sales?

If I can comment on that, I think I would attribute it partly down to the lumpiness of sales, but also partly on the throughput capacity of our sales team. Obviously, working with the likes of HSBC and others, there's a quite substantial amount of effort from anything from security reviews to vetting to contract negotiations. which you can't have too many of in parallel. I think it's partly that when you introduce something new, it takes some focus from the existing. Then we hope, of course, to build more self-generating sales as our channels become more accustomed to this product and as we develop new channels to go to market with both Connect for Zoom Rooms and Connect for Microsoft Teams Rooms.

You know, that makes sense. And finally, if I may ask one question, I would say with a very strong contribution from Connect for Zoom rooms, which are now contributing 30% of the growth in the quarter and also Microsoft solution coming in now for 60% of their users. What are you now thinking for the 2025 guidance? Because it's currently set at above 10% growth. That's the pace you're at now.

also considering the legacy drag which should actually diminish next year we we above 10 is a pretty broad range and uh i think we we are not uh updating the guiding for 25 now we're continuously uh considering the guiding and we will uh bake the updates uh when we think they should be done but currently the guiding for 25 remains in place

Okay, that's clear. Thank you so much.

Thanks a lot, Jørgen. Let's move on to Øystein Lodegaard from ABG. Øystein, are you with us?

Yes, good morning. I have a couple of questions. First, congrats on the strong stuff for the new Connect for Zoom Rooms product. Can you say what is the potential for this kind of product long-term compared to, say, what you see for Microsoft Teams Rooms you have some flavor on that.

You want to start? I'm happy to. We don't know the full range of the install base for Zoom Rooms. We know Zoom have gone publicly out and said that they have sold two million Zoom Room licenses. We know that there's a substantial amount of Zoom Rooms out there. We've just scratched the surface in terms of the overall potential. Then I think we'll know much more in about six and 12 months in terms of how quickly can we penetrate this market.

That's good there, thank you. And also one thing that I don't think was mentioned much now was, can you share any update on the progress on the Poly partnership?

Yeah, the Poly partnership continues to be a strong one with good results also in Q3. We have now close to a year and a half since we signed the agreement with them back in May. And we believe that it will continue into the next 12, 18, 20, 24 months as we're kind of tapping into their install base. But it's still a strong one and contributing good in the quarter.

So now that we move into 2025, it's roughly one and a half years until the old Poly solution will be sunset. Should we then expect that the new ARR contribution from Poly starts to increase? Or how should we think about that?

Also, far we haven't guided on the partnerships individually on their contribution, but yes, of course, you have seen it with the results that they have contributed well, and I think we're just going to see that continue.

Okay. Thank you very much. That was all my questions.

Thanks a lot, Sten. Oliver Pisani from Carnegie. We'll move on to you.

All right, good morning from the home office. So first question is, I mean, you're cutting FTEs now queue over queue again, but you're also citing the limited throughput capacity of the sales team. So what's your thinking about sort of FTE development going forward and how lean can you get before this starts to hit your growth?

I wouldn't put too much into the fact that the number of employees is varying a little bit quarter over quarter. There are some people leaving, some people starting. It may not be completely synchronized. The resourcing is expected to be relatively flat. We're, of course, looking at if we need to add capacity in some areas to cater for more work, for example, with new products on the sales side.

could also be other areas that we're seeing that there is the need for less capacity so we our current estimate is that it will be relatively stable going forward all right good noted um then just the technical questions and what was the ar from secure spaces if we exclude the custom custom revenue

So at least in terms of growth in Q3, the growth within secure and custom was almost completely on secure meetings. So we did see a relatively flat development on what we've reported as video innovation quarter on quarter, which is pretty much in line with the previous quarters.

Very good. And then you still have a significant excess cash position of almost 600 million. So what's the strategic rationale behind sitting on that rather than paying it out?

We are constantly, or the board is constantly evaluating how to, what to do with the cash, and I think that's something that we will come back to at a later stage, where that's basically the owners and the board's decision to potentially decide on distributing or not distributing the cash. And there are, of course, various vehicles that could be used in this respect, but currently that's up to the board.

Just to add to that, we have a cash distribution policy to distribute 50% to 100% of the free cash flow in the year, which we also did for 2024, where we distributed somewhat above 100% of the free cash flow. That cash distribution policy remains in place.

Very clear.

Thank you for that. Let's try with Kristian Spitalen from Arctic once more.

Can you hear me now?

Yes, we can.

Good, good. Mic problem on my side, so sorry about that. Good morning. Could you please go a bit, speak a bit more into your Q4 guidance? My understanding was that the seasonality, just in terms of normal sales, was a bit stronger into Q4 than what's implied in your guidance. And also considering that it seems that the Zoom and Microsoft partnership will now come on top as well compared to the growth here to date.

I'm not sure. To separate the two questions, one, to take the last one first in terms of the Zoom and the Microsoft Teams room contribution to our growth, given that the capabilities now launch from Microsoft in November, we don't expect a lot of contribution from that product in Q4, but certainly for 2025, we have solid hopes of that being a good growth driver for us. In terms of the guidance range for next quarter, which is 111 to 114, last year we did $3 million in additional ARR in Q4, and that would put us in the middle of the range for this quarter as well. The other quarters have been stronger in 2024, and they were in 2023, but the overall seasonality in terms of a good Q4 remains within our expectations.

Okay, thanks. And just remind me on when the Zoom partnership went live, the solution there.

Product went live mid Q2. Okay, thanks. Q3 was the first full quarter that we've been in business, correct?

Yeah, that's it for me. Thanks.

Thanks a lot, Kristian. We've also received some questions from investors on email. Congrats on the HSBC win. Will you upgrade the guidance for 2025 if you see continued and increasing traction on Connect for Zoom and Connect for MTRs? And what type of penetration are you hoping for in two to three years?

I think on the guiding, of course, I understand the questions. People are curious about how this will look going forward. We are, as I said, constantly evaluating the guiding, and we try to give you our best view every quarter. Currently now, we were sitting in the middle of November, starting to look into next year, getting the pipelines in place and getting the forecasts from sales where they need to be. I think it's premature to do any changes to the guiding at this point. We will present the Q4 on February 13th. That will be the next time we will potentially report on any change or not change in guiding.

Next question we've received is, can you give some information if you have plans of increased buybacks, dividends, or M&A? The first two we've covered, but any update we can give on M&A?

I think as a small niche company, there will always be possibilities to expand a little bit on the markets we serve or the products we have through M&A. Evaluating whether we should partner, build or buy, in all cases is of course something that we do. Currently, I wouldn't put large M&A activities is not something that is high up on our list right now, but it's of course a possibility that we're looking into every time we're considering doing something new.

Then we received several questions, some which we have touched on, but one on, can you help us understand how to think about OPEX going into 2025?

I think the current view is that we will keep it relatively stable. We expect that we will be able to do more with the resources we have so we can sell more, develop more, create more value with the current resource base. But of course, there comes to a point where we might need to add resource if the growth accelerates. But currently, the view is that we will keep this relatively stable.

And if I was to add to that, I would say that in 2024, we've been able to basically have a nominally flat cost base by reducing somewhat on the number of FTEs, which compensates for inflation. Going into next year, we would expect a more stable employee base, but then cost growth in line with inflation, give or take. With that, that concludes our Q&A session. Thanks a lot for listening, and see you next quarter.

Thank you.