5/7/2025

speaker
Trond Johansson
CEO

Good morning, and welcome to this presentation of PECSIP's first quarter results. My name is Trond Johansson, and I am the CEO. Together with me here at Lysaker, I have Øystein Hamm, our CFO, and our Chief Revenue Officer, Osmund Fodstad. Together, we will take you through the highlights of the first quarter and what we are focusing on going forward. The standard disclaimers apply as usual. First a few words about Pexip for potential new viewers. Pexip was founded in 2011 and currently we operate in 25 countries across the globe. We are a specialist video conferencing and infrastructure company focusing on interoperability and secure and custom meetings. We do software only delivered as a software or as a service. Pexip has unique and established partnerships with the leading companies in our industry. We complement and enhance their solutions and do not generally compete with them. Our customers are mainly large organizations, both in the private and public sector, that have complex needs when it comes to video communication. Our financial performance is strong and has been improving over the last quarters. Now to the highlights of the quarter. Our annual recurring revenues, ARR, grew with 2.4 million US dollars during the quarter, and this leaves us with an ARR base of 115.5 million US dollars leaving Q1. In Q1, we had particularly strong performance in our secure and custom business area, and the development here is supported by increased public awareness around the need for secure and sovereign IT solutions, including video communication. EBITDA came in at 112.5 million Norwegian kroner in the quarter and cash flow ended at 221 million Norwegian kroner for the quarter. Based on a strong cash position and existing commitments we have related to share option programs, we are initiating a share buyback program of up to 2 million shares or up to 100 million Norwegian kroner Whichever happens first, we'd start already in Q2. In other news, we were in April proud to announce, in close cooperation with Google, a new solution that enables Google Meet hardware to connect to Teams meetings. If we look at our Q1 performance in the context of the last 12 months, we see that the positive trend from the last quarters continues. Our total ARR continues to grow and is at an all-time high. Our 12-month rolling EBITDA reached NOK 255 million, which corresponds to a 22% EBITDA margin. And finally, our free cash flow the last 12 months was 315 million Norwegian kroner. We take this performance as evidence that we are working in attractive markets with relevant products and a strong market position. Pexip's mission is to make seamless video communication available to all organizations, regardless of technology platforms and security requirements. We have two main solution areas. Pexip's secure and custom spaces is privately hosted video meetings that give complete privacy and data control with the desired level of customization. Pexip Connected Spaces is about video meeting interoperability by enabling any meeting room to connect to any meeting platform. First, a few words about secure and custom. Here, Pexip provides a video meeting platform that can be used exclusively or alongside, for example, Teams or Zoom in those situations where you need to close the door and have a secure meeting. Our solution includes security features such as tailored user authentication, clear meeting classification labeling, and complete control over what data is stored and where. integrated chat is also an option. The secure meeting can easily be booked through the Outlook calendar, exactly the same way as Teams meetings. I believe that most large organizations will have more than one video meeting solution in the future, and Pexip is very well positioned as the secure meetings alternative. Pexip's unique technology gives us a leading position for those organizations that cannot use a global SaaS solution hosted in the public cloud for all their meetings. The Pexip platform can be deployed in all relevant environments from fully air-gapped to sovereign clouds and even public clouds when relevant. This is not the case for Teams, Zoom, WebEx, and Google, which are mainly operating as global SaaS services hosted in public clouds. This strong and unique market position has resulted in a solid development for our secure and custom business area with a 27% growth in our ARR base since Q1 last year. The current geopolitical situation has reintroduced self-hosted and sovereign IT solutions after a period where a global cloud-only strategy has been followed by many organizations. In Europe and Asia, both the large US technology giants and local players are investing in building alternatives to public clouds to meet sovereignty requirements. Consequently, we now see organizations operating with hybrid or mixed IT environments where some data is in public clouds and other must be in more controlled IT environments. Now moving over to connected spaces. This is where Pexip has the vision of connecting any meeting room to any meeting platform. With the introduction of an interop solution enabling Google Meet Rooms to connect to Teams meetings, we have completed the picture. With Pexip's unique technology, interoperability focus, and industry partnerships, we have a market-leading position in this field. The new solution for Google hardware, Zoom rooms, and Teams rooms are unique to Pexip and are evidence of the leading position we have. A few more words about the new Google solution. We have been in partnership with Google for many years, and Pexip is already the only provider of an interrupt solution enabling SIP endpoints to connect to Google meetings. Google has its own hardware software solutions for meeting rooms that is used by many organizations. These solutions have not been able to connect to Teams meetings before now. The product is requested by large Google customers and has been developed in close cooperation between Pexip and Google. Now, let me leave it to Osmund to take you through a deeper sales update.

speaker
Osmund Fodstad
Chief Revenue Officer

Thank you, John, and good morning, everyone. We are proud and reporting another strong quarter for Pexip in secure and custom, with $3 million AR growth to $47.9 million. That is a 27% growth year over year. We are especially strong in defense and see an increased awareness and pipeline for secure solutions, especially in Europe. Now let's move to connected spaces. For connected spaces, we delivered a flattest quarter, ending the quarter at 67.6 million, which represent a 1% growth year over year. In Q1, the main reason for a somewhat higher churn is the loss of two service providers for interoperability amounting to a negative 0.6 million US dollars. This is as expected, and there is limited service provider revenues left in our ARR base. Pexip continues to see strong momentum with both our Microsoft and Zoom partnerships, and soon to come, like John said, Pexip Connect also for Google. We are confident to see good results with our connected products in Q2, the rest of 2025, and beyond. And I'm excited to share a large Fortune 500 customer win that truly validates our competitive advantage and traction in this space. Walmart. Walmart is a fantastic win and another Fortune 500 under the belt for Pexip. Let's have a look at their use case. Walmart has, as any large enterprise organization, a mix of technologies. They have a large estate of Microsoft Teams and Zoom rooms that does not interoperate. Walmart has evaluated standardizing on one technology that has decided to get a higher return on their existing investment and to support all meeting scenarios with their current estate. They simply just want to meet. Pexip can support this decision with a solution for seamless interoperability. And because of that, we see customers like Walmart decide to radically expand their commitment with Pexip. We continue to see an increased interest and pipeline for Pexip Connect. And again, in Q3, we will also have Pexip Connect for Google. We're confident about the future and our position to continue supporting Fortune 500 companies with our technology solutions. And with that, I'll hand it over to Øystein for a financial update.

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

Thanks a lot, Åsman. As Trond noted, we grew our annual recurring revenues with $2.4 million in Q1, compared to a growth in Q1 of last year of $2.0 million. The year-on-year growth rate is at 10%, which is the same as it was out of Q4. Secure and custom is driving the growth, and it's up to a year-on-year growth of 27%, while, as Osman mentioned, connected spaces is growing at 1%. As much as $1 million of the incremental growth in this quarter came from defense and aerospace, and this vertical has shown significant growth in 2024 and continues now in 2025. Looking closer at the two business areas, connected spaces saw a slight decline of $0.5 million. Compared to last year, new sales is somewhat lower than in 2024, while net retention is stable. This is from a combination of a few material up sales, like Walmart, compensating for higher churn compared to last year. Securing Custom, on the other hand, had another very strong quarter, growing $3 million, and this took the annual growth to 27%. Compared to last year, new sales is up half a million, and net upsell is up one million, while churn continues to be low in this segment. We're happy to see the shift in new sales towards Secure and Custom, as this product area has shown better net retention over time. And as a consequence, we're now shifting the ARR mix towards Secure and Custom. In terms of RP&L, reported revenues follow ARR, and in Q1, they were 348 million NOC, up 19% compared to Q1 of last year. The growth is balanced between the two product areas, software and software as a service. It's worth noting that in stable currency, we estimate that revenue growth would be 13% and not 19%. EBTA is also significantly up, growing 75% compared to Q1 of last year. For Q1, we delivered 32% EBTA margin for the quarter, taking our 12-month rolling margin to 22%. This is in line with our near-term target for 2025. We continue to convert a higher share of our revenue growth to incremental EBITDA. In Q1, we grew revenues with 56 million NOC, and we increased EBITDA with 48 million NOC, meaning that we converted 86% of the increased revenues into increased EBITDA. This is a result from a combination of increased revenues, improved gross margins, a beneficial currency situation, as well as good cost control. In terms of cost, we continue to maintain a fairly stable cost development. Salary expenses are stable year on year, with a reduction in headcount compensating for inflation. Other OPEX is also stable. In Q1, we did see a cost increase on share option-related costs, and this is a result from setting some exercise share options in cash rather than in shares. This is neutral in terms of the value impact on shareholders, but it does have a negative impact on the reported P&L. On the other hand, due to a reduction in the share price during Q1, we also saw a reduced accrual for social security taxes, which has the opposite effect. Looking at cash flow, Q1 had a free cash flow of 221 million NOC, which is 120 million above 2024. Operating cash flow is driving this and was up 115 million NOC compared to last year, significantly above the growth in EBITDA. A big part of this is a seasonal improvement in working capital, as we collected on revenues that was invoiced late in Q4. Investment and leasing cash flows are slightly down compared to last year. We did see a 19 million NOC reduction in our cash position due to exchange rate impact on our holdings in US dollars, which reduces their value in Norwegian kroner. This took our net cash position to 830 million NOC at the end of Q1. To summarize the main points for the quarter, revenues are up 56 million NOC, 19%, and EBITDA, excluding other gains and losses, is up 48 million NOC. Depreciation is down 6 million, resulting in EBIT coming in at 101 million NOC for the quarter. Net financials is down 36 million NOC due to negative currency impact from the stronger NOC compared to the US dollar. And in total, we improved our profit before tax, which came in at 87 million NOC for the quarter. And with that, I hand it back to Trond.

speaker
Trond Johansson
CEO

Thank you, Aslan. Capital distribution. As a result of our solid cash flow, cash position, and existing outstanding commitments to deliver shares as part of employee incentive programs, we are initiating a share buyback program. Pexip will acquire up to a volume of 2 million shares or shares for a value of 100 million Norwegian kroner, whichever happens first of those two. If we take Pexip's Q1 cash position of 830 million Norwegian kroner and adjust for the maximum share buyback and the dividend paid out in Q2, or actually today, the cash position would still be 470 million Norwegian kroner. We maintain a strong balance sheet also after these distributions. Now to outlook. As described earlier, we maintain a positive market outlook based on the key trends we see in our markets and the unique technology, strong market position and solid industry partnerships we have. Our current expectation is that we will end Q2 with an ARR base in the range of 117 to 120 million US dollars. This is compared to the 115.5 we had leaving Q1. Our 2024 to 2025 targets of consistently delivering above 10% ARR growth and above 20% EBITDA margin remain in place. Longer term, we have an ambition to deliver rule of 40 performance across ARR growth and EBITDA margins. Finally, before we go to Q&A, we will have our Q2 presentation here on August 14th. Now, Q&A.

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

Excellent. We'll start off with questions from the analysts that are with us live. And I believe we have Jørgen from Pareto joining us. Jørgen, can you hear us?

speaker
Jørgen
Analyst, Pareto Securities

Yes, I can. Can you hear me? Great. First, thank you so much for taking my question. I have several questions, but I would start with this. So understood your communication earlier to mean that you could grow to about 150 million ARR with about 300 employees. But with your numbers today, you keep reducing the headcount. So I'm just wondering if you could help me bridge how low will that figure go before it eventually starts going up if you continue to grow?

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

I think we have around, our expectation is that we will be around 300 employees by the end of the year. I actually do expect that to start going up somewhat even from Q2. Then if we'll reach 300 by the end of the year or somewhat below, let's see. That depends both on hiring as well as any potential departures.

speaker
Jørgen
Analyst, Pareto Securities

Okay, thanks. That's very clear. And also if you could give some color on the FX situation in the company, both in terms of currencies that you sign contracts, but also if you're considering any hedging or anything to sort of mitigate the high volatility that we're currently seeing in monetary markets.

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

I think underlying the business has a pretty good hedge by having a lot of the... To be fair, a lot of the revenues are invoiced in US dollars, around 80%, but also the cost base is fairly balanced with about a third in dollars, a third in euros and pounds, and then a third in Norwegian kroners. The business as a whole is not that exposed to currency fluctuations. Although as a European exporter, we do benefit from a strong dollar. I think we do not plan to do any currency hedging, but it will be a point of discussion with European customers as they come up for renewal, what their price should be in their local currency. That was the case when the dollar was increasing in strength because the customers felt that it was somewhat unfair in their local market to receive a much higher price than the year before. And it will be a point of discussion now as they come up with a renewal to make sure that it's a fair outcome both for them and for us.

speaker
Jørgen
Analyst, Pareto Securities

But you would still prefer to have those quoted in US dollars and not in euros?

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

Yes, because at the end of the day, it comes down to even if you have multiple currencies that you invoice in, you still need to keep those prices relatively consistent across the markets that you operate in. If not, customers would order from Europe and deliver it to the US. Whether you have one or multiple currencies, you will still need to manage how the different currency rates develop.

speaker
Jørgen
Analyst, Pareto Securities

That makes sense. And then finally, from me, if I may, great to see the buyback program. I think that answers a lot of the feedback that at least analysts have had for a long time. But could you provide any color on the time frame? Is this a one month program? Is it supposed to run until next year? Or what's the timing here?

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

So we've set an absolute deadline by the 30th of September. It will follow the standards or rules for the Oslo Stock Exchange, capped at 25% of the average liquidity in the stock, which will probably, with at least the current liquidity, take a couple of months.

speaker
Jørgen
Analyst, Pareto Securities

That makes sense. Thank you so much.

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

Thanks a lot, Jürgen. Then I believe we'll go to Øystein from ABG. Øystein, can you hear us?

speaker
Øystein
Analyst, ABG

I can hear you well. Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on a great quarter. First of all, let's start with connected spaces. Their momentum has slowed a bit. I just thought maybe if you could give some more flavor, how much of this is due to increased churn on, for example, SIP endpoints and And how much is kind of that we're still waiting to see the ramp up of new products such as MTR rooms, Google, etc.? ?

speaker
Osmund Fodstad
Chief Revenue Officer

In general, we pointed out the two service providers in Q1, making it a bit of an exceptional turn situation in Q1. Going forward, we don't have that many of them in the portfolio, so that's important in itself. Then we do see great traction, especially on the Zoom and with the MTRs, and we're excited about what Google could provide us as well. We're fairly optimistic about the whole connected spaces for the rest of 2025. We're working with several large Fortune 500 companies that we are planning to close in 2025. I wouldn't put too much into what we saw in Q1. Details on SIP and endpoints, that's something we don't really go down to details, I believe.

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

In general, what we see is that customers are moving to newer platforms like MTRs, like Zoom Rooms, like Google Meet Rooms, where we have launched products, but we're quite early in terms of the adoption. I would say that on Connect for Zoom, that was a relevant contributor for our net development in the connected spaces this quarter. That has contributed well. On MTRs, we see a good pipeline development, but still haven't seen material sales yet. That was launched quite a bit later, and it's also not fully out on all platforms that Microsoft provide, but we're confident in that product's ability to deliver as we get into 2025 in earnest.

speaker
Trond Johansson
CEO

In general, interoperability continues to be extremely relevant because we have all these meeting platforms out there, basically the four large ones and potentially some local and more secure platforms like Pexip being a bigger part of the mix going forward. Interoperability and the ability to use every meeting room to connect to any type of meeting platform is something that will not go away and that we believe will continue to grow also going forward.

speaker
Osmund Fodstad
Chief Revenue Officer

To that, if I can even elaborate, Walmart is actually a fantastic example. Used to have a huge SIP estate of video conferencing endpoints, now have a good mix of MTRs and Zoom rooms. Did evaluate, which I think every large enterprise is doing, whether they should standardize on one technology, but we do see that, especially these larger ones, are not doing that. They have a mixed E state, which again speaks to the need of interoperability in a different way than we used to see it with the Purian SIP endpoints.

speaker
Øystein
Analyst, ABG

And on the Poly partnership, we're still, of course, in the period where they are facing out their legacy products and migrating customers to Pexiv. Can you say something about the status of that partnership? Are the majority of that effect still ahead of us or have you taken out a lot of potential from that partnership already?

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

Overall, the partnership with HP is super strong. They continue to be a very important contributor to our sales. Poly has also given some data themselves on the status on the real connect. The connected space is part of the migration, which is about two-thirds into the migration. On that side, I believe we have more of it behind us than in front of us, while the situation on Private Connect, which is their secure and custom platform, is the other way around. Overall, still a long way to go, but it differs somewhat between the two product areas.

speaker
Øystein
Analyst, ABG

And on the very strong development in secure and custom, are there any kind of large single contracts contributing to that strong growth? Or is this kind of a growth rate that you think you can sustain going forward, given all the strong macro trends that we are seeing in the market?

speaker
Osmund Fodstad
Chief Revenue Officer

We did, in Q1 in particular, we did not have one single big contract. We see the good traction all over, especially in Europe. North America has always been good for us on secure and custom, and that continues. We are working on some larger opportunities throughout 2025, but that's harder to define exactly when that potentially can hit us. But we have good traction basically around the globe on secure and custom, on multiple new opportunities.

speaker
Trond Johansson
CEO

I think we talked about this before earlier that we did see a higher potential and a higher potential growth rate in the secure and custom area than we saw in the other part of the business. That's basically two years back since we communicated that. I think we even talked about 20 plus percentage potential growth rates at that point without being at that level. What we're seeing now is that that's now starting to realize itself and that's starting to kick in because of the way the world is developing. It's really a positive picture for that business going forward.

speaker
Øystein
Analyst, ABG

Thank you very much. That was all of my questions.

speaker
Øystein Hamm
CFO

Thank you. Thanks a lot, Ehsan. It doesn't seem like we have any questions coming in on email. With that, we'll conclude the Q&A section. Thanks a lot for listening and we'll see you next quarter.

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