8/5/2025

speaker
Mizuho Shin
Manager of Investor Relations and Public Relations

Thank you for joining the Recruit Holdings FI 2025 Q1 Earnings Conference Call. This call is a simultaneous translation of the original call held in Japanese, provided solely for the convenience of investors. I'm Mizuho Shin, Manager of Investor Relations and Public Relations. Today we will begin with a presentation by Junichi Arai, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, followed by a Q&A session. Please note that today's session, including the Q&A, will be posted on our IR website after the event. With that, we will now begin from the presentation.

speaker
Junichi Arai
Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

I am Junichi Arai, and today I will be presenting the Recruit Holdings FI 2025 Q1 financial results. As previously mentioned, starting this fiscal year, we have integrated HR technology and HR solutions, which includes the job advertising business and the placement business from matching and solutions. As a result, matching and solutions now consists of marketing solutions including SaaS, and accordingly, the segment name has been changed to Marketing Matching Technologies or MMT. To facilitate a comparison with our FI 2025 segment outlook and results, we are presenting FI 2024 Pro Forma segment financial data, which assumes the integration of these businesses had been in effect from April 1, 2024. Unless otherwise noted, all comparisons are made against the same period of the previous year on a Pro Forma basis, comparisons with the previous quarter will be noted appropriately. Additionally, starting this fiscal year, we have renamed our key financial metric, previously referred to as adjusted EBITDA, to EBITDA plus S. And we will clearly distinguish between the two metrics by referring to the figure, before adding back share-based payment expenses to EBITDA plus S as EBITDA. Let me begin with key highlights from the FI 2025 Q1 financial results. First, regarding the consolidated results. We will not be changing the consolidated business forecast for this fiscal year from the disclosure on May 9, at this time, taking into account the results of the first quarter, the workforce reduction in the HR technology business announced on July 10, U.S. time, and the current business environment. As already communicated in the Tokyo Stock Exchange Voluntary Disclosure on July 11, the financial impact of HR technology's workforce reduction has already been largely incorporated into the EBITDA Plus S outlook for HR technology, which serves as an important component of the consolidated guidance. The consolidated FI 2025 Q1 results were broadly in line with our expectations. While signs of recovery in US job postings have yet to emerge. And consolidated revenue declined by 2.5% each segment, particularly MMT, focused on further improving productivity, resulting in the highest ever quarterly EBITDA plus S margin of 21.3%. As for HR technology, supported by continued improvements in monetization, on US dollar basis, revenue in the US increased 0.9% year-over-year. And reflecting seasonal trends, increased 6.3% quarter-over-quarter. Revenue in Japan decreased 4.4% year-over-year on a Japanese yen basis and 4.3% quarter-over-quarter. This was primarily due to the impact of Indeed Plus revenue on a net basis, as previously explained in May. Segment EBITDA plus S margin increased from the same period last year, reaching 35.0%. In staffing, Japan showed steady performance, whereas in Europe, the US, and Australia, revenue declined by 12.2%. As a result, segment revenue decreased by 3.4%, with segment EBITDA plus S margin of 6.6%. In marketing matching technologies, revenue increased by 7.1% amid a stable business environment in Japan, while cost controls resulted in significant expansion of EBITDA plus S margin to 31.6%. Regarding the capital allocation measures, The share repurchase program with an upper limit of 450 billion yen initiated in March 2025, reached its maximum purchase limit significantly earlier than initially planned and was fully completed on June 18. This was driven by two TOSNET3 transactions executed in March and April totaling 98.5 billion yen. as well as effective progress in repurchases through an appointed securities dealer with transaction discretion, largely due to the stock price downturn in April. Net cash and cash equivalents as of the end of June decreased to 563.5 billion yen, primarily due to the early completion of this share buyback program. At this time, there is no change in our policy of reducing net cash to a level of approximately 600 billion yen by the end of March 2026. Now I will provide further details on these points. As I mentioned earlier, we are not changing the full-year consolidated earnings forecast disclosed on May 9 at this time, considering the first-quarter results, the reduction of approximately 1,300 employees in HR technology announced on July 10 and the current business environment. While we do not expect a significant increase in revenue given the ongoing uncertainty in the labor market, particularly in the US. We aim to increase EBITDA plus S by pursuing operational efficiency, and ultimately seek to increase basic EPS by also factoring in the effects of share buybacks. As already communicated in the Tokyo Stock Exchange Voluntary Disclosure on July 11, the financial impact of HR technology's workforce reduction has already been substantially factored into the EBITDA plus S outlook for HR technology. which was announced on May 9 and serves as an important component of the full-year consolidated guidance for this fiscal year. Therefore, we are not revising our consolidated guidance at this time. Additionally, there are no changes from the May 9 forecast regarding profit attributable to owners of the parent and basic EPS. To explain a bit further, the workforce reduction of HR technology will positively impact our consolidated EBITDA and margin, due to reduced employee benefit expenses. However, as I just noted, this was already factored into our main 9th full-year outlook for HR technology, as part of operating expenses. Additionally, while we expect share-based payment expenses to be lower than initially projected, the resulting impact on our consolidated EBITDA plus S and its margin is limited, as these two effects largely balance each other out. As a result, we have determined not to revise the current full-year consolidated EBITDA plus S guidance of 697 billion yen, up 2.7% year-over-year, with a margin of 19.8%. Regarding the Q1 consolidated results, they were broadly in line with our expectations at the beginning of the fiscal year. While revenue in marketing matching technologies increased, revenue in HR technology grew on a US dollar basis, but declined on a Japanese yen basis, and staffing also saw a revenue decrease. As a result, total consolidated revenue decreased by 2.5% to 878.8 billion yen. Gross profit decreased by 1.7% to 521.8 billion yen, with a gross margin of 59.4%, flat compared to the same period last year. As a result of continued efforts to improve productivity, EBITDA plus S was 187.1 billion yen, which is equal to an increase of 4.5%. Resulting in the highest ever quarterly EBITDA plus S margin of 21.3% supported by margin expansion in MMT. EBITDA increased 1.3% to 163.5 billion yen. and the EBITDA margin increased compared to the same period last year, reaching 18.6%. Profit attributable to owners of the parent increased by 13.6% to 120.9 billion yen. Basic EPS increased by 21.5% to 83.97 yen. Now, I will explain the first quarter results for each SBU. First, I will talk about HR technology. Segment revenue for Q1 FI 2025 increased by 3.6% to 2.36 billion US dollars. Compared to Q4 FI 2024, revenue increased by 5.9%. On a Japanese yen basis, segment revenue decreased by 3.8% to 341.7 billion yen, and increased by 0.4% compared to Q4 FI 2024. Indeed's real-time hiring lab data continued to show a gradual cooling in the U.S. labor market, with relative resilience seen in sectors like healthcare, construction, and other in-person occupations. During Q1 FI 2025, the number of job advertisements on Indeed in the U.S., including both paid and unpaid job ads continued to decline, in line with our initial assumptions. Even amid such conditions, while hiring demand from small and medium-sized businesses had shown particular weakness in March and April, we saw the trend in hiring demand among these employers improve late in Q1 as the US economic outlook improved. Amid this environment, revenue in the U.S. increased by 0.9% year-over-year, to $1.26 billion, driven by ongoing development in monetization as the rate of increase in revenue per paid job ads more than offset the rate of decrease in the number of paid job ads. Quarter over quarter, US revenue increased by 6.3% on a US dollar basis, supported in part by typical Q1 seasonality. Revenue in Europe and others, grew by 12.6% to 476 million US dollars, which is a 11.8% increase compared to Q4 FI 2024. In addition to a weaker US dollar, the region benefited from strong performance in the UK, partially driven by a favourable comparison with the prior year. For Japan, this was the first quarter following the integration of HR solutions from matching and solutions. Revenue in Japan was ¥90.2 billion, a 4.4% decrease broadly in line with our initial expectations, including the impact of Indeed Plus revenue on a net basis. Compared to Q4 FI 2024, this represented a decrease of 4.3%. Segment EBITDA plus S for Q1 was 119.4 billion yen, an increase of 1.4%, and segment EBITDA plus S margin increased to 35.0%. Segment EBITDA was 96.3 billion yen, and segment EBITDA margin was 28.2%. As DECO has previously communicated, Our assumption remains unchanged that hiring demand in the U.S. will continue to decline by approximately an additional 10% from the level at the beginning of this fiscal year and is likely to bottom out in the second half of the year. We are operating under the expectation that it will still take some time before job demand fully bottoms out. As for staffing, segment revenue in Q1 decreased by 3.4% to 408.1 billion yen. In Japan, revenue increased by 6.3% to 212.8 billion yen, driven by continued growth in demand for temporary staffing services and an increase in the number of temporary staff on assignment. However, in Europe, US, and Australia, revenue declined by 12.2% to 195.3 billion yen, reflecting ongoing weakness in demand for temporary staffing services amid uncertain economic conditions. Segment EBITDA plus S decreased by 6.2% to 26.8 billion yen, resulting in a segment EBITDA plus S margin of 6.6%. Next, I will discuss the results of marketing matching technologies. The business environment in Japan remained stable, with revenue growth across all three sub-segments. Segment revenue increased by 7.1% to 136.8 billion yen. Revenue in lifestyle, which consists of beauty, travel, dining, and SaaS solutions, increased by 9.7% to 70.1 billion yen. In beauty, revenue increased due to continued growth in new business clients. Revenue in travel increased as the trend of high unit prices for lodging continued due to domestic travel demand during the Golden Week holidays and increased inbound tourism. Revenue in housing and real estate increased 3.7% to 37.5 billion yen, primarily due to higher advertising demand driven by an increase in the supply of existing condominiums. Revenue in others, which includes car and bridle, was ¥29.1 billion, an increase of 5.4%. Segment EBITDA plus S margin expanded 4.9 percentage points to 31.6%, driven by appropriate cost control, principally related to service outsourcing expenses. regarding our capital allocation measures. The 450 billion yen share buyback program, which the Board of Directors resolved on February 28, 2025, was fully completed on June 18, reaching the maximum authorized amount. The total number of shares repurchased was 55.6 million shares. 11.7 million shares were repurchased through two TostNet3 transactions for a total of 98.5 billion yen and 43.8 million shares via market purchases through an appointed securities dealer with transaction discretion for 351.4 billion yen. On March 24, 2025, we retired 85.9 million shares, equivalent to the number of shares repurchased over approximately the preceding year. As of June 30, 2025, total issued shares were 1,563.9 million shares. Of which approximately 4.9% were shares directly held by Recruit Holdings. and 3.7% represented trust holdings allocated for share-based payment expenses. Based on our consolidated earnings guidance disclosed on May 9, 2025, shares repurchased as of June 30 this year, and the total share dividend amount expected in FI 2025, the total payout ratio of this fiscal year is projected to be 84.5%. Consolidated net cash as of June 30, 2025, decreased to 563.5 billion yen, less than half of the amount as of March 31, 2024. We have not changed our target announced in May 2024, to reduce net cash to approximately 600 billion yen over the two years ending March 2026. While considering options for strategic MNA, we will closely monitor changes in the economic and capital market environments, and based on our company's financial outlook, we will assess whether or not to proceed with share repurchases. This concludes my presentation.

speaker
Mizuho Shin
Manager of Investor Relations and Public Relations

Now we would like to proceed to the Q&A session. If anybody has a question, please click on the Zoom raise hand button. Please unmute before asking your question. We will take one question. Goldman Sachs, Munakata-san, please. Thank you for this opportunity. I'm Munakata from Goldman Sachs. So one question. on HR tech, please. In your presentation, you mentioned that you did the workforce reduction. So what was the background to this? including macroeconomic factors, or the internal resource allocation is changing, your policy is changing with the AI. If macroeconomic situation improves, the drastic workforce increase will not happen. Can we expect that? So if you could elaborate, please. Thank you very much. In May, Deco explained this point. how we become more efficient and more productive in our operation, including the environment. And after that, Deku returned as the CEO of Indeed. So HR technology, especially in the US, is, to repeat myself, regardless of the environment, we will take new initiatives one by one. In other words, the new services, great contents that will please our customers who will use our service more so that we can monetize further. So we are in that process and how we leverage the opportunity is the key. As we mentioned in May, Back in May, we had the coding for new service development. I think we said 30%. 30% is already digitalized. And this is making progress. Of course we use external technologies and we pay in some cases but how we reduce our cost, how we maintain our efficiency is the baseline. And under that circumstances, we will try to optimize the number of headcount and decide whether we should increase or reduce the number of people engaging in R&D. So that was the thought process. So of course we will increase the headcount if we need more to increase our revenue, but in the HR technology framework, how we digitalize, introduce the more automation and produce more effectively, efficiently is the key. So sales side is usually the people we need more when we want more revenue. So, how we make our development more efficient. This is not necessarily directly related to revenue increase. But as we already mentioned, this year, US HR technology revenue increase is not expected to increase much. If there is some big change and revenue increases, rapidly, will we recruit, regain all the people that we let go? No, that is not likely, not a high possibility. Thank you very much. So when you develop new services, you will continue pursuing higher efficiency, I understand. One follow-up question, if I may. So you are now improving your monetization steadily. In Q1, HR tech, US revenue on a dollar basis is solid, I think, given the external environment. So in your monetization measures, the unit price increase, you offset the volume decline. So monetization measures, are they on the extension of what you mentioned in Q4 results? Or are there any updates you could share with us? So basically, we are doing things on the extension of what we said in May. Maybe in September in Indeed Future Works, we may be able to say something new or say that we are enriching what we are working on. But basically, we are doing things on the extension of what we've already shared with you. Thank you very much. Thank you.

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