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Strauss Group Ltd Ord
11/26/2025
Hello, and thank you for joining us today. Welcome to Strauss Group's third quarter and first nine months of 2025 results earnings call. On our call today, management will provide a review of the results, followed by questions and answer session. You are encouraged to post your questions to the Q&A function in the Zoom call. As a reminder, this online Zoom earnings call is being reported Wednesday, November 26, 2025. A recording of this call will be available on the company's website a few hours after the call. I would like to remind everyone that this online webinar may contain projections or other forward-looking statements regarding future events or the future performance of the company. These statements are only predictions and may change as time passes. Strauss Group does not assume any obligation to update this information. Actual events or results may differ materially from those projected, including as a result of changing industry and market trends, reduced demand for our products, the timely development of new products and their adoption by the market, increased competition in the industry and price reductions, as well as due to risks identified in the documents filed with the company with the Israeli Securities Authority. Online with me today are Mr. Shai Babad, Strauss Group's President and CEO, and Mr. Toby Fishbein, Group CFO, and myself, Ruth Knoefeld, Head of Investor Relations. We will begin with a review of the quarterly results by CEO Shai Barbad, and then move on to the financial highlights of the quarter presented by CFO Toby Fishbein. We will then move on to a Q&A section. Shai, the floor is yours.
Thank you very much, Ruthka. Can you put the presentation on? Thank you very much and welcome this afternoon to our quarterly financial reports. We're very happy to have you here. What we'll try to do in the next 25, 30 minutes is to give you just some kind of overview of the results with our highlights and then open it up for some questions. I'll start and Toby will continue. So if we look at the major highlights of this quarter, following all previous quarters, we are continuing a very, very solid and strong growth. Growth this quarter is approximately 16% if I take performer growth, taking up all the investment activity that we departed from last year. And if we look from the beginning of the year, it's approximately 19% growth, nine months to nine months into 2025. When we look at our EBIT and operational profit, we also see a substantial growth, and I'll touch it when we see it. for Strauss in the first nine months. When we look at our productivity journey, we are off the track, and I'll say a few words about that later on. We are continuing to execute our strategy. There were various innovation initiatives that were launched in the third quarter that we'll touch later on, and also the inauguration of the plant-based factory facility in the south, in the north, sorry. So here are the major results. You can see here growth to 3.3 billion from approximately 3 billion. 13% growth if you take the full year to full year numbers. If you take performer activity with the divestments that were done last year, then it's 16% growth, 70% growth. When we look at EBIT margins, mostly, by the way, of the growth is from price, from increasing prices, and a very small amount of the growth comes from volume, but still there's volume growth in three months and also in a quarter and also nine months since the beginning of the year. When we look at our EBIT, our EBIT sums up to $312 million with 43% growth from last year, substantial growth, and we'll see later on most of it has been driven from our international coffee activity. And when it comes to cash flow, our net profit also 146 compared to 300 in nine months. We can see that in the quarter we did very well, 40% more than last year. But when we look at net profit nine months into the year, we are 50% less. But last year we had tax incentives approximately 60 million. And also there is financial activity, financial expenses this year that were higher than last year. And therefore, if we take this year-round. And when we look at cash flow, we generated a very high cash flow this quarter of $245 million, compared to minus $100 last year. And also, when we look here since the beginning of the year, year-to-date, we are approximately $150 million better than last year. And by the end of the year, we expect it to be on positive cash flow. Of course, three major commodities are affecting our results, the Robusta, the Rabica and the Coco. And although we see in the Robusta and in Coco in the last quarter some kind of decrease in prices, whereas Robusta is continuing with very high prices, still we don't see the impact on that, a full impact on that, on our results, taking Brazil outside of the equation in everywhere, in All our other geographies, we have hedging activity and we have a very high inventory as well. And taking that into consideration, there is time until we actually see in our results the impact of the reduction of the prices in the P&L. And I will touch later on how do we see our COCO and our confectionery activity. When we look at Israel, Israel is with a 3% growth, quite a solid growth. Part of that growth is limited because of divestment activity that we've done last year in our health and wellness division. There's actually a slight increase in revenues. But when it comes to EBLIT, you can see in total Israel 12 million reduction, 7.7%, and all of it comes from health and wellness. You can see there's a 90 million shekels decline. Here it's very, very important to note that we consider this as a one-time thing. We had some functional issues. in our dairy factory in the north during August and September. It affected a little bit our business, and therefore you can see that they did less than last year. But looking ahead, looking into October, which was already finished, also November, those one-time problems are behind us, and we will see going ahead health and wellness getting back to track, getting back on growth and on profitability. Thank you. When we look at our final indulgences, you see an increase here, but the increase is a little bit misleading because last year, the $9 million that you see in EBIT is actually $27 million because there was an $18 million loss in derivatives there. This year, the results are $15 million in the final indulgences because in our confectionery business, the cocoa is impacting our business, still very high cocoa prices. Now, when we look into the future and asking ourselves when do we see the effect, we think that when we'll get into 2026. And during 2026, there'll be a full turnaround of the business, of our confectionery business, and coca prices that we know today, which we hedged, and the inventory that we have for 2026, and with the current coca prices that they are in the market now, we are very confident that our business will do a turnaround, substantial turnaround next year, and we'll see much higher profits in this segment. Next. If we look at our innovation activities, you can see there's a vast innovation there. There's cross-branding collaboration between our brands in alternative milks and in our dairy. There's a new Arab coffee that we targeted for the segment, also with all our protein products. We've done a series of zero sugar. Our cow-free innovation, our new disruptive innovation of bringing milk drinks and cheese spreads with proteins that don't come from the cow, the same protein, the same BLG protein. It comes from either mushroom or yeast. And from that, we managed, after two and a half years of development, to develop these products, and the advantages of these products are that they are very similar in the taste to cheese and milk. They have the same protein and the same health components, but they don't have the lactose, or anyone who is sensitive to lactose will not have a problem having those products, and also they don't have cholesterol because they don't come from animals. And we think there's a place for them in the market and demand from consumers for these type of products. We also launched in the confectioner some nostalgic products, snacks that we had, and we had the inauguration of our plant in the north, which I'll speak about later, and with our confectionery, there's a lot of variety of different chocolate tablets and snacks. If we look at our coffee activity, the international coffee activity, so this is the main, we think this is the main news of this quarter. We also have seen that last quarter, this quarter, we see it even in the in a more influential way, in a more impactful way. Our coffee business is improving substantially. Growth has been 30% due to price increase and a little bit of volume increase, but mainly, mainly operating profit, you can see, jumped by 140% to 163 million shekels, reaching the double-digit, almost the double-digit margins. The reason is, of course, our activity in Brazil. You can move to the next slide. You can see that in Brazil, again profit more than doubled almost triple with 170% growth this quarter and overall from the beginning of the year almost doubled with 27% increase in revenues in this quarter and 37% increase from the beginning of the year what we believe looking forward is that Brazil the platform that we managed to generate in Brazil over the last six months is a new platform which will also be carried out in the next the same level of profit and such high profits and margins you can see the margins here in Brazil this quarter are reaching 11.3% but it does mean that the new platform definitely will not stay at the 4% or 5% that they were in the past and will jump towards more like 8, 9, 10% and will be much more healthier business the reason is that we are managing to maintain prices high prices and maintaining the margin in roasted ground coffee while we are continue to grow all our non-REG activity, which is generating a double-digit margin. So looking into the next quarters and looking into next year, we do see a jump in the profitability of our international coffee businesses with an emphasis on Brazil, and we do think this will be a new normal, maybe not as high as this quarter, maybe a little bit lower, but still a new normal to this business, unlike what we used to see in the past. In our water business, you can see there was growth in our revenues here in Israel, mainly due to 4% growth, mainly due to the quantities of install base which grew. We launched this quarter, the Shabbat machine. It's basically for Jews to keep the seventh day, the Shabbat. Until today, our machines were not kosher for the seventh day, for the Shabbat, and now those machines are applicable for people who keep the Shabbat for religious Jews, and it's a new solution for approximately 34 40% of the people of Israel will keep the Shabbat in some sort of way. We do think that will be a future growth interest for us. Nevertheless, we see a decrease in operating income of $3 million, about 11%. It mainly comes from our operations in China. In China, there is intensive competition by Xiaomi who entered the market. And since they entered the market, we've seen We continue to grow double-digit on growth, on revenues, but on the other hand, we had to give discounts and to reduce prices in order to maintain our position in the market in order to continue to grow, and we also had to invest in new products. Unlike the one-time events that we had in the dairies in Israel, this will follow us into the next phase. quarter or two and into next year, and we predict that maybe by the end of 2026, the platform will get back to what we used to see in the past. Still, it's very important to mention that we still have high, because in China the results are net margins and net profit and net margins, we still have high net margins in China, but much less than we had in the past. When we look at our productivity, so our productivity is in line with our plan. We said that by the end of 2026, we'll reach between 300 and 400 millions in productivity, and we do see ourselves reaching the target. We are on track with a strategic procurement with all of the streams that we opened in this productivity program, with working capital, with RGM, with logistics, with manufacturing, and, of course, with capability building, upskilling and reskilling our people to being able to use the new tools that we are bringing into the company. A little bit about moving forward, what are the edges of growth that we've developed, specifically this quarter, which we think will follow us next year and will help us to continue our growth. So, one is, of course, our factory in the north. We build our own factory for alternative milks. Till today, everything that we've done was outsourcing from third quarter onwards, the end of third quarter onwards. Everything that we're doing, we're doing in our factory. That will enable us to give much better products, much more variety, much higher variety of our products. And also, not just to play, until today, everybody in Israel plays in the segment of alternative milk. This is our claim to fame. This is where we are number one in the market. This is our strength here in Israel. And we'll take the very, very strong brands that we have in desserts and we have in yogurts and we'll be able to implement them in our factory. Our factory will allow us to give much more capacity to the market in a much higher quality and tastier products than we used to have in the past. On the one hand, get into new categories like the desserts, like the yogurts with our beloved brands, local brands here. of our desserts and yogurts, and also our manufacturing costs are much lower than what we used to have when we outsourced ALPRO since the beginning of the year, before we had the factory. Putting all those components together, we see this as a major engine of growth in the next quarters and also in the next years. Calfree, which I've mentioned before, when we look at dairy and milk industry in Israel and all over the world, we divide it into The other one is the alternative milk, such as soy, almond, or oat. And the third one is the new segment that we brought to life, and I think we are one of the first companies, innovative companies, to bring these segments into the world, which is basically like milk, but not milk because it doesn't come from a cow, but it has the same protein, it has the same components and nutritional advantages, and the identical taste, the sensory taste, but it doesn't come from a cow. It doesn't have lactose. People with cystic fibrosis can actually consume it. For Jewish people who are religious, you can eat it after meat. People who differentiate between meat and milk and people who like the taste of milk but don't do it for various reasons will be able to get those products. And we believe that those three segments, there's a place for those three segments. This segment is going to start very small and it's going to grow. It's not something that we're going to see that next quarter or right after that is becoming substantial. It will take time to build the category, as it took time to build the milk alternatives categories, our plant-based category in Israel, for many, many years. But we do think that this is a very profound and very unique category, that there's place and that there's a consumer need and requirement from consumers for this category. And we're very, very happy that we were the first one to innovate and to launch these products. In Yotretara, where we do all our milk drinks, traditional milk drinks and protein drinks based on milk, we had capacity constraints over the past year, year and a half, and basically 20-25% of the demand we were not being able to meet. And we deployed the new line about two months ago. And by December, after all the testings are done, the new line will start being productive. So by 2026, our capacity will grow by 40% to 50% and a demand of 20%, 25%, which we don't need today. We don't give an answer today. We'll be able to give an answer. So enough. health and wellness segment. We'll see substantial growth next year with opening up capacity bottlenecks. And Shabbat, which I mentioned before, which is a huge launch and growth interest for our water business. As you remember in the strategy, we talked about taking our water company and making it a multi-product company from a single product company. So this year we launched under the sink. We launched the soda machine, and we also launched the Shabbat. We launched an affordable machine in the U.K., and we'll continue to launch new devices from a different price tag, a different price range, and also different functionality to answer consumer needs. And we do see the ongoing growth of, of the water business and with those new products, especially with Shabbat, which is very, very high demand for this product. We sold thousands of those machines and we stopped sales because we are waiting for new machines to come to Israel so we can continue to sell them. We see potential for substantial growth in the next year. And just summing up, if you remember, our strategy talked about four pillars, Israel focusing on the core and growth, and Brazil transforming the RNG and growing the non-RNG, and our water business, growing our water business and growing internationally as well. with productivity, conflicts, and investment into the business. So looking at the parameters that we set to the strategy that we want to achieve, I think that we are in line, and even way over in line, growing 5% over the years 24, 26. We think we, as you can see in our results in 24, and also now in 25, we are growing much more than 5%. When we talk about expanding the margin, you can see that there's a substantial improvement, and we believe that a lot of that improvement is a performer improvement into our margin in our coffee business, which will be a new level. We do think the productivity of 300 to 400 million will reach that target and even exceed it. We are investing a lot in CapEx, whether it's on productivity, whether it's on engines of growth, such as the new plants in the north that you've seen, such as coffee that we launched, such as Shabbat that we launched, and also in digitalization, in automation that we put in the company to be more productive and to assist us to grow in a more healthier way. And when we focus on our portfolio, when we started, we were around 60, 65% core. Our portfolio was core. Core was being number one in the market, growing more than 5% and having a double-digit margin. And we believe that by 2026, after we turned around Brazil, after we divested South Rhine, divested other parts of our businesses, we believe that we'll be able to reach this target. The last big business that we need to do the turnaround in profitability is our confectionery business. And as I said before, looking into 2026, knowing already what we have as cost of goods when it comes to hedging cocoa and also the inventory of cocoa, we believe that we'll be able to do a substantial turnaround to the confectionery business and to bring it back. saw in the past, and by that we'll complete fixing or transforming all the big businesses and all the core businesses of Strauss, having more than 85% of the business as a core business. We believe it was a very strong quarter with substantial results for the coffee business, which we believe a lot of them will come to be pro forma. We had some one-time problems in Israel, which are already fixed, and we don't see them following us in the next few quarters. And we are looking into turning around our confectionery business once our P&L will absorb the new coca prices, which are much lower than what we had in the past. And from here, the floor is yours.
Thank you, Shai. On slide 19, looking at the quarter's sales more closely, we see continued growth in all segments, while the most significant contribution came from Coffee International, especially from Brazil. Excluding the appreciation of the Israeli shekel, group sales grew by 13.2%. We also see the impact of the investments in the quarter, with Savra and Rubella being the most noteworthy. These businesses were consolidated in the Group's 2024 non-GAAP results. Moreover, we also see the impact of the divestment of the ultra-fresh business in Q4 of 2024 and the coffee retailer Coffee2Go in Israel at the end of Q2 of 2025. Without these businesses, our pro forma growth in Q3 of 2025 would have been 16.3%. On slide 20, we look at the sales for the first nine months of the year, and we see similar trends as in Q3. Moving now to operating profit on the next slide. What we see here is that the group delivered significant improvement in both Q3 and the nine months of 2025. Higher EBIT and EBIT margin can be attributed to the higher sales achieved and ongoing productivity measures, and despite the impact of raw material cost inflation. In Coffee International, we see the impact of pricing, whereas in Strauss Israel, pricing did not compensate for higher raw material costs. As Shai mentioned, Strauss Water's EBIT was impacted by intense competition in China. Looking at the next slide, we can see operating profit and margins by business segments. On slide 23, we see that net income in the third quarter increased by 42.7% following significantly higher EBIT. In the nine-month period, higher financing and tax expenses impacted net income. Higher financing expenses in Q3 and the nine-month period were attributed to the impact of the stronger chequered. which led to funding exchange hedging expenses, as well as FX differences, as well as higher interest pay, mainly related to financing working capital and higher interest rates in Brazil. Tax expenses were also higher, reflecting tax income received in 2024, following the release of provisions due to previous tax assessments and the profit mix in 2025. Moving to cash flow performance. On slide 24, we see that in Q3, our operating and free cash flow improves significantly. Free cash flow amounted to 245 million shekels, an increase of 343 million shekels over the comparative period last year. This was supported by higher EBITDA, lower inventory levels in coffee international, as well as lower capex. On slide 25, we look at the net debt, net financial debt, and we see that the higher free cash flow led to a decrease in net debt, as well as an improvement in the net debt to EBITDA ratio. Let's now take a closer look at our business segments, starting with Israel. On slide 27, Strauss Israel, we see that sales in the third quarter of 2025 mainly reflected pricing in a number of categories, while divestments of the ultra-fresh business in Q4 of last year and of the retail chain Coffee2Go at the end of Q2 of this year impacted growth. Without these divestments, sales growth would have been approximately 5.2%. On slide 28, we see South Israel's sales for the first nine months, and we see here that growth across the board stemmed both from pricing as well as higher volumes. Moving to Erbit for Strauss-Israel, both in Q3 and the nine months, we see that both the impact of higher raw materials, as well as pricing, were reflected on the operating profit performance. In Coffee Israel, pricing offset higher, you know, green coffee prices, whereas in Fun and Indulgence, snacks and confectionery, pricing actually did not compensate for higher cocoa costs. In health and wellness, we saw a one-off cost related to food safety and quality control activities, as well as higher raw material costs and increased marketing expenses supporting the plant-based milk category. Moving to Coffee International, slide 31. For the key highlight here, of course, of the quarterly results, Coffee International, we saw strong growth in sales that was driven primarily by pricing. and this sales growth offset green coffee input cost inflation, while operational efficiencies supported margins. On slide 32, We can see that geographical breakdown of sales for Coffee International in Eastern Europe, Central and Eastern Europe. We see that sales growth was achieved across the board, following pricing as well as higher total volumes. Our Brazilian JV, as explained before, grew nicely and we also saw strong growth in Poland, both from pricing and volumes. Moving to the sales for the first nine months of the year, on the next slide, we see a similar picture showing the same overall market dynamics. On slide 34, we see the Tres Corazones, our Brazilian JV, performance on a 100% basis and on Brazilian Real. And we see the increase in sales supported mainly by pricing in the roast and ground categories, but also the continued growth in non-roast RNG categories. Moving now to slide 36 for the Strauss water performance. During the quarter and first nine months of the year, we saw higher install rates, higher sales, both in Israel and the UK, as well as better sales mix. The gross profit was positively impacted by exchange rates and productivity measures, while higher Strauss water, our JV in China with higher, contributed lower equity gains. Moving to the next slide. We see higher trans-water yuan-based 100% results. We see there that with double-digit top-line growth with lower net income due to intense competition and efforts to preserve and expand market share through promotions, marketing, and R&D by diversifying the portfolio offering. It should be mentioned also that the R&D versus Shaker exchange rate led to lower sales and profit when translated into shekels in the period. With that, we conclude management's presentation, and we will open the call for Q&A.
Thank you very much, Toby. I'll now catch your questions. So the first question I have is regarding Calfree. Could you please give us more color on the Calfree dairy drink and spreadable products released this year? What are some of the early indications from retailers and consumers in Israel, and what demand and sales volumes are experiencing?
So, as I mentioned before, the new category is basically a category that is there to imitate the nutritious values of milk. It has the same milk protein, the BLG protein that we have in milk that comes from the cow, And it has very similar elements. It also has almost the same taste as the milk drink and also the same thing in the cheese spray. The advantages of that is that it doesn't come from a cow. It's more sustainable. It doesn't have lactose, so everybody senses that lactose can actually help those products. It has very, very similar to milk and cheese. Whoever likes the taste of milk will find it almost identical. And it doesn't have cholesterol because it doesn't come from animals. And for Jewish people, it's also, with the difference between meat and milk, it also, we call it power, which means you can eat it after you eat meat. So we think there's a lot of place for this because in all the milk alternatives, they don't actually have the taste of milk. It's someone who actually wants the taste of milk and also wants the protein. Most, by the way, people don't know this, but in most milk alternatives, there's not really many nutritious values, not in oat and not in almond. There's a little bit of protein in soy, but not as much as we have in milk. And here, we actually have the advantages of milk. We have the same taste of milk for people who like the taste of milk, but for people who don't want to come from the cow, people who are sensitive to lactose, for any other reason, we'll be able to have this category. So, for these reasons, we believe there's space for this category. Yet, this category is very, very small. Right now, there's not even time to talk about revenues or demand. It's just starting. It will take time. We'll need a couple of more quarters before we can actually have some data and really But it's very, very, very small quantities. It's still under test. There's also educating consumers, what is this new category? What do you mean it's not, but it's not milk? What do you mean it doesn't come from a cow? Whatever I told you now is something that really needs to be explained and really needs to be experienced by the consumers. So we really think it will take time until this category will grow. It took more than 10 years to grow the milk. alternative milk category here in Israel, and today it's in more than a one billion shekel category. It's still continuing to grow. We do believe the country can grow into being a very big category in Israel and to give solution in Israel, not just in milk, drinks, and spreads. You can look about in yogurts and in desserts and in any dairy products that we have today. There's a question of the availability of those proteins that come from yeast and mushrooms, and don't come from a car, how available they are going to be. Once this will come more scalable, then there'll probably be more factories that will produce this or be easier to make this on scale. Right now, the availability of the ability actually to keep these products into the market is very, very limited because the product, the input product of the protein is very limited in the amounts that it's being produced today. So I hope I gave some confidence that we can speak about this for the next 20 minutes, but I think this wasn't the session, this wasn't the reason for this session.
So I actually have another follow-up question regarding California from Chris Reimer from Barclays. So are these products, are the results of these cuts in line with your expectations so far?
Yes, very much and even more. When it comes to the sensory test, when it comes to the consumer's reaction to what we've done, very much in line, but I want to be very careful. There are still very limited amounts of products that we put on sale and still very, very early. I think that a year from now, by the end of next year, after we have a year of launching, after we have a year of deploying them in the market, after we'll be able maybe to scale a little bit up our production abilities and getting more protein and putting more products into the market, we'll be smarter to say, what do we think? But we do think this is a very, very exciting category. We do believe very much in this category, and we believe there's a path to grow this category. categories. The traditional milk, the alternative milks that are not milk, such as soy, almond, and oat, and also cow-free, which is basically imitating milk, but it's not milk, has all the advantages of milk, and the taste of milk, but just doesn't have the disadvantages of lactose, cholesterol, sustainability, and others. And we do think that over the years, there's space for these three categories, and the cow-free category can grow substantially.
So, saying that this same sector of What do you see in terms of the plant-based milk line? How is that performing so far, especially given – It's performing really well.
We also managed to grow our market share very rapidly over the last few weeks when we launched. Our products are much higher quality, much tastier. variety of new products into the market. And so far, we've only been in the milk drinks or milk alternative drinks category. Once we're going to desserts and to the yogurts, this is where we own the market. We have the highest market share. We are the number one player. Once we'll take our loved brands and we put our loved brands on plant-based products in the desserts, in the dairy, we believe we can grow this category very much. And the new plant that we have designed, which has the highest technology, and with our partners with Danone bringing in their highest IP into the factory, we will really be able to grow this category and also grow this category with new products.
So given your explanation, when looking at the global market, demand does seem to have some challenges in terms of the alternative milk market. So, how does that correspond with how you see the growth opportunities here in Israel?
So far, we don't see any demand. There was a hiccup in the last few years, but we do see alternative mix continue to grow. In Israel, the demand is quite constant. The category has been growing. In the previous years, it's been growing double-digit. Now, it's growing high single-digit. we don't see a problem. And this is only on the side of the milk, alternative milk drinks or plant-based drinks category. Once, as I mentioned before, once we'll get into desserts and once we'll get into the yogurts, which is a very big category for us, and give that an alternative we'll be able to grow this category much more and to gain market share in the category and also develop new products because today there's not real products when it comes to desserts and yogurts in this category. And I think we'll be able to bring in products which will be very, very unique, very, very tasty, very, very good. And with our love brands, which are,
Moving to the water segment, regarding expansion in the water segment, how long do you think it will take to come to fruition, considering the market in China and depending on the launch of the new facility, or is that more of a 2027 story?
So it's really very, very hard to know. We do want to see a lot of the new facility will come in place and start delivering in the beginning of 2026. It's not the capacity constraint that is today affecting us. It's more the competition of Xiaomi and the fact that they have reduced prices and the fact that it's kind of a price war right now and the discounts that they've been giving on the machine. Still, there's good margins, I must say. Having a 5%, 6% net margin is not a bad margin in our business. And the growth is very solid. We've seen, although is putting very high pressure. We're still doing 13% year of renewal, which is very high growth in the category. We're still getting market channels still growing. Yes, this will follow us probably in the next couple of quarters. If it's two quarters, one quarter, three quarters, four quarters yet to be seen, we'll keep you updated. We do think that – we hope that by 2026 or maybe end of 2026 we'll be able to overcome It's downhill or going back downhill, but it's too early to say.
Final question so far is, are there any more segments of the business being considered for divestiture?
We always look at portfolio optimization. We always look, what is the right way for us? We look at the trends. We look at consumer needs. We look at where we have our competitive advantage. We look at, do we have a sustainable way to grow to meet consumer needs in the next five to ten years? And we look, are we number one player? Are we number two player? Are we a substantial player in those categories? And then we look, is this business profitable? Can we make it profitable? And if the answer to all this is yes, then it's fine. If not, then we ask ourselves, can we fix one of can't fix it, then we ask ourselves, does it support the core activity? Does it support our portfolio? And sometimes when the answer is yes, it's keep it. And only when the answer is no to all the questions about, then we divest it. So I won't give you a specific business that we're looking at. Of course, it's an internal information. We'll do something and we'll just announce it. But we are always looking at portfolio optimization and as well so that we will serve our consumers in the best way where we have a competitive advantage by maintaining growth and by maintaining high margins.
Okay. We don't seem to have any more questions, so I will now turn the call back to you, Shay, for closing remarks.
Well, thank you very much, Rivka. So as I said before, this has been a very good quarter for us and also a nine-months into the year. I think that one of the major things that we've managed to do over the past three quarters and also looking into the fourth quarter and hopefully into next year as well is to transform the platform of our coffee business in Brazil and a little bit in the sea as well. We do believe that we can get higher margins there in most I'm not sure they'll be as high as we've seen in the third quarter, but I do think that we'll be a higher performer. We do think Israel had a one-time leap, and they'll go back into growth and to higher margins and profitability, as was before, especially health awareness, as I mentioned before. Those one-time problems we don't believe will continue according to the future. repeating themselves, and we do think that we are on track to growth. Today, the business is healthier than it was in the past. Most of our categories, almost all of them, besides the confectionery, are already there with high margins, high growth, and with high adjustment to consumer needs. The only last business that we believe that in 2026 we'll see the full turnaround is our confectionery business. So overall, when we look ahead, we see continuous growth through all the growth engines and others that I didn't mention in this presentation, but all the growth engines that we set ourselves this quarter that I've shown in this presentation, and also with continued – Business will continue to see and perform on the new coffee. Business will continue to see overall profitability and overall growth improving.
Thank you. And thank you for joining us for Strauss Group's third quarter and first nine months of 2025 results earnings call. And this concludes our call for today, so thank you.