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spk03: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the TrueLeave Cannabis Corporation Second Quarter 2024 Financial Results Conference Call. My name is Jamie, and I'll be your operator today. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. And at this time, I'd like to introduce your host for today's conference, Christine Hersey, Vice President of Investor Relations for TrueLeave. Ma'am, you may begin.
spk01: Thank you. Good morning, and thank you for joining us. During today's call, Kim Rivers, Chief Executive Officer, and Wes Gatman, Chief Financial Officer, will deliver prepared remarks on the financial performance and outlook for TrueLeave. Following the prepared remarks, we will open the call to questions. This morning, we reported Second Quarter 2024 results. A copy of our earnings press release and PowerPoint presentation may be found on the investor relations section of our website, .trueleave.com. An archived version of today's conference call will be available on our website later today. As a reminder, statements made during this call that are not historical facts constitute for-looking statements. And these statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our historical results or from our forecast, including the risks and uncertainties described in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including Item 1A, Risk Factors of the Company's Annual Report on Form 10K for the year ended December 31, 2023, as well as our periodic quarterly filings. Although the company may voluntarily do so from time to time, it undertakes no commitment to update or revise these for-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as required by law. During the call, management will also discuss certain financial measures that are not calculated in accordance with the United States generally accepted accounting principles, or GAAP. We generally refer to these as non-GAAP financial measures. These measures should not be considered in isolation or as a substitute for a true-lease financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is available in our earnings press release that is an exhibit to our current report on Form 8K that we furnish to the SEC today and can be found in the investor relations section of our website. Lastly, at times during our prepared remarks or responses to your questions, we may offer metrics to provide greater insight into the dynamics of our business or our financial results. Please be advised that we may or may not continue to provide these additional details in the future. I'll now turn the call over to our CEO, Kim Rivers.
spk05: Thank you, Christine. Good morning, everyone, and happy Ohio Adult East Lunch Day. We are thrilled to share results from another outstanding quarter. Strength in our core business was demonstrated by our third consecutive quarter of top-line growth and margin expansion. All of the effort and investment over the past two years to set a solid foundation for long-term success is paying dividends. The flexibility that we have embedded into the organization provides multiple pathways for growth and the ability to pivot quickly as the industry evolves. This summer is shaping up as we expected with a heightened focus on major upcoming catalysts. At the state level, we are very pleased with the campaign efforts to deliver a -on-three vote in Florida this November. Recent polling of likely voters showed support in the mid to upper 60s, well above the 60% threshold required to pass the adult youth initiative. To date, the campaign has received almost 70 public endorsements from a wide variety of bipartisan supporters, including physicians, activists, educators, faith leaders, labor unions, law enforcement, elected officials, and celebrities. We are confident that targeted messaging to raise awareness and educate voters about the many benefits of legal cannabis will positively influence voter turnout and persuade Floridians to vote yes on three. While there are many reasons to support legalization this November, here are the top three. First, a yes vote would decriminalize personal cannabis possession in Florida. No one should be in jail or fear arrest for personal cannabis possession. Second, adults deserve access to safe, tested, and labeled cannabis products available in a normalized retail environment. No one should risk death from fentanyl or pesticide-laced products sold on the street. Third, legal cannabis offers numerous economic benefits through job creation and tax revenue collected on sales. At Trulie, we are taking every available opportunity to feature yes on three information at our store grand openings, division education events, hire events, and community events. Last week, we launched our first yes on three products with yes on three whole flower eights and pre-rolls. We plan additional product launches as we approach the election with a portion of proceeds going to support the campaign. And as always, we encourage other industry operators to use their platforms to help raise awareness. In Ohio, we are launching adult use sales at our Beaver Creek, Columbus, and Westerville locations today. The team is thrilled to be among the first group of operators to serve adult use customers in the Buckeye State. Tudors to the state regulators who successfully rolled out this program following voter passage last year. We expect to have popular Trulie brands available in our stores before year end through our support services arrangement with a tier one grower processor. In addition, we are working through the regulatory process and with our partners to open additional locations in Columbus, Toledo, and Sainsville in early 2025, expanding our retail footprint to six dispensaries. We estimate Ohio could reach $2 billion in annual sales. In neighboring Pennsylvania, we believe momentum is building for the passage of adult use legislation. We currently operate 21 affiliated dispensaries, including a new location in Wilkes-Barre and three grower processor facilities. We remain optimistic that adult use sales in Pennsylvania could launch in the next 12 to 24 months, and the market could reach $4 billion in annual sales. At the national level, cannabis remains more popular than any politician, with over 70% of adults in favor of legalization. The first major federal reform in decades is advancing through the formal rulemaking process to re-classify cannabis to schedule three. Public comments showed overwhelming support with 92% of over 43,000 comments received in favor of rescheduling or rescheduling. With this public approval, we are optimistic that rescheduling can happen this year. We believe the time is right for the administration to take this historic step and re-classify cannabis. Before turning to results, I'd like to acknowledge two major milestones we recently achieved at True Leave, which lend perspective to how far we've come as an organization. Last month, we celebrated the eight-year anniversary of our very first sale, which was actually the very first medical market sale in the state of Florida. In 2016, when we recorded our first sale, that was the only transaction we conducted for many weeks as we worked to recruit physicians into the program. In 2024, on the eight-year anniversary of our first sale, we conducted approximately 50,000 transactions. On top of that, we opened our 200th retail location in June, a new store located in Brooksville, Florida. While it took us five years to reach our 100th store, we doubled our retail presence to 200 stores in less than three years. This impressive growth and expansion of our industry-leading retail network is a true testament to the team and all that we have collectively accomplished. Now, turning to our second quarter results. Revenue and margins beat our guidance with sequential and -over-year improvements in each. Revenue increased to $303 million, up 2% from Q1 and 8% compared to last year, with growth in both retail and wholesale. As expected, strong retail performance was partly offset by higher promotional activities for 420, the beginning of seasonal headwinds in Arizona, and the highly successful launch of our Refresh Loyalty program. Growth margin increased by 1% to 60%, primarily driven by lower cultivation costs. SG&A spending was comparable to the first quarter. Adjusted EBITDA of $107 million, or 35%, exceeded expectations, primarily driven by higher growth margin and cost controls. We ended the quarter with $356 million in cash. Strong retail performance was driven by a 3% increase in traffic, partly offset by a 1% decline in basket. Our relentless push to sell branded products through branded retail is the foundation of our strategy to build lasting brand equity. We sold over 11.5 million branded product units in the second quarter, up 4% sequentially. Consumer behavior at the start of the second quarter was largely consistent with patterns observed in the first quarter, with willingness to spend more for compelling products and bundle-style promotions. As the second quarter progressed, and continuing into the third quarter, we are realizing softer conditions in retail across the portfolio, consistent with seasonal headwinds. As always, we are closely monitoring retail KPIs as we amplify messaging to highlight the value proposition of our product offerings. With the flexibility built into our capacity, we are able to adapt our production to meet evolving consumer preferences. During the second quarter, our industry-leading retail network grew to 200 stores nationwide, with new dispensaries in Florida, and the acquisition of two stores in Ohio. In June, we completed the rebranding of all retail locations in Arizona and Ohio to the Trulia brand. Subsequent to quarter end, we opened five more stores in Florida, and one in Pennsylvania. We remain on track to open at least 25 new stores this year. Product quality and well-cost customer service are key drivers for our strength in retail. Our production team continues to turn out high-quality products at scale, while harnessing efficiencies and driving down costs. Yields, potency, and costs at our flagship 750,000 square foot indoor facility in Florida remain at peak performance levels. Yields at our legacy sites in Florida outperformed our plan by double digits, further reducing cultivation costs. Across the organization, we are focused on incremental improvements designed to enhance product quality and fortify our brand portfolio. In-house brands such as Modern Flower and Roll One continue to resonate with customers, and we continue to expand product offerings with new launches of various sizes and form factors in our markets. Customer experience metrics show incremental improvements across our retail network with higher NPS scores in virtually all markets during the second quarter. Overall, customer satisfaction is further underscored by our customer retention, which improved at 66% company-wide and 75% in medical-only markets. Infrastructure investments to reinforce customer loyalty are having an immediate impact on our business this year, while setting the foundation for future growth. Three examples of infrastructure investments include our Web 2.0 platform, Revamped Loyalty Program, and Enhanced Customer Data Platform. Migration to our Web 2.0 platform was successfully completed in Q2, bringing enhanced functionality, including real-time updates to products, pricing and promos, and product availability at nearby stores. The rollout of our Refreshed Loyalty Platform was completed in early June. The Best in Cost program features fully stackable points that can be redeemed across all brands in all markets. The simplified and intuitive program design has led to high adoption rates, exceeding our goals in all markets. To date, over 325,000 customers have signed onto the Loyalty Program, and 80% of members have made at least one purchase since opting in. Many of our own employees are Loyalty members, providing them an opportunity to earn rewards and effectively communicate the benefits of the program to customers. The rewards program itself was built inside of our Customer Data Platform, allowing interconnectivity between rewards, website, and the Customer Data Platform. In April, we rolled out enhanced capabilities in the CDP to enable automatic basket-level analysis powered by machine learning, which we used to further personalize customer messaging. These technological improvements provide a meaningful competitive advantage today, allowing us to forge deeper customer relationships cemented by hyper-personalization. Across the organization, as our company continues to grow, we are investing in new technology and tools to support more sophisticated marketing outreach, business planning, and inventory and warehouse management. Last week, we completed a significant upgrade to our SAP platform, adding expanded functionality capacity for future growth. We anticipate these infrastructure investments will increase in the back half of this year. In summary, our team continues to deliver spectacular results while we prepare for future growth. As we believe, adult use in Florida is a key unlock for cannabis adoption in the US. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to our CFO, Wes Gatman. Please go ahead.
spk08: Thank you, Kim, and good morning, everyone. Second quarter revenue was $303 million, up 2% sequentially at 8% -over-year, driven by continued strength across the retail platform and growth in the wholesale channel. Second quarter gap gross profit was $182 million, with 60% margin, representing a 1% improvement sequentially. Gross margin will continue to fluctuate quarter to quarter depending on product and market mix, inventory sell-through, promotional activity, and idle capacity cost. As G&A expenses in the second quarter were $103 million, or 34% of revenue, in line with the first quarter, as we balanced spending to support both our retail network expansion and infrastructure improvements with expense control. Second quarter net loss was $12 million, compared to a net loss of $23 million in the first quarter, representing a 48% improvement sequentially. Second quarter loss per share was $0.05, compared to a loss of $0.17 in the first quarter. Excluding non-recurring charges, second quarter results would have been break-even, compared to a loss of $0.05 in the first quarter. Second quarter adjusted EBITDA improved by $1 million to $107 million, with 35% margin. Adjusted EBITDA margin reflects higher revenue and gross margin. Turning now to our balance sheet and tax strategy. We ended the core with $356 million in cash and $481 million in debt. As a reminder, Trulieve adopted a tax position challenging the applicability of 2-8E to our business last year, filing amended returns for tax years 2019 through 2021.
spk03: To date,
spk08: we have received refund checks totaling $115 million, inclusive of $2 million received during the second quarter. Final resolution to our approach may ultimately take years to conclude. In the interim, we continue to accrue an uncertain tax position on our balance sheet while realizing lower cash tax payments. Upon rescheduling of cannabis to schedule three, the 2-8E tax burden would be removed, effectively capping the downside risk to our tax challenge. Notably, if the impact of 2-8E were removed, we would have realized positive net income for both the first and second quarters. Cash flow from operations totaled $71 million in the second quarter. Capital expenditures were $26 million with free cash flow of $45 million. Turning now to our outlook. Based upon the visibility that we have today, we anticipate third quarter revenue will be down by mid-single digits from the second quarter and up mid-single digits year over year. Top line contribution from new store openings and the launch of adult use in Ohio are expected to be offset by seasonal headwinds in both Arizona and Florida. We anticipate gross margins will be at least in the mid-50s each quarter for the remainder of the year. We are increasing our full year targets to at least $250 million cash flow from operations and capital expenditures of $100 million. The revised targets include outperformance realized in the first half of the year, as well as provisions for greater financial support for the Florida adult use ballot, alongside investments to support long-term growth initiatives and expansion in markets with adult use catalysts. We have opened 12 stores this year and are on track to open at least 25 stores in 2024 with the pace of store openings accelerating in August and September. The team remains focused on executing to our plan. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Kim.
spk05: Thanks, Les. Cannabis is becoming increasingly mainstream and more socially acceptable every day. Daily use of cannabis recently surpassed alcohol for the first time, highlighting the generational shift in attitudes and acceptance of cannabis. US consumers are increasingly turning to cannabis for relief from unmet medical needs, such as pain, insomnia, and PTSD, or simply to relax and enjoy life. Favorable views by younger voters were further illustrated by a recent poll in Florida, which showed all respondents between 18 and 29 years old, and 82% of those between 30 and 39 are in favor of the adult use Yes On 3 initiative. And it isn't just consumers who favor legalization. Two weeks ago, the American College of Physicians released a physician paper outlining support for decriminalization of small amounts of personal cannabis. This policy brief by a credible organization with over 161,000 members further illustrates evolving approaches to cannabis as an important public health issue. While cannabis is gaining popularity, momentum is building for federal reform. Rescheduling of cannabis to Schedule 3 is underway. This would represent the first major reform in decades, setting the stage for additional federal reform, including safer banking. Not only would rescheduling remove the punitive tax burden imposed on state legal operators, but it would reduce the stigma and ease the process for cannabis research. We remain optimistic that the final rulemaking could be published this year. Today, we are 91 days from a historic vote in Florida. We intend to remain out front, pushing for passage and common sense implementation of Amendment 3. Adult use cannabis in Florida is a tremendous opportunity. With over 650 medical dispensaries today, expansion to include adult use would represent the largest conversion in legal cannabis history. With 23 million residents and 138 million annual tourist visits, we estimate the market to reach $6 billion in annual sales. Last quarter, we sold 135% more flour per store than the average operator. Following passage of the initiative, we plan to quickly ramp idle production capacity and prepare our retail network for adult use sales. We fully expect to expand our market leading position when adult use sales launch. Currently, 178 dispensaries, or 86% of our retail network, serves only medical patients. Truly the best position for the next wave of markets converting to adult use, including Florida and Pennsylvania. Given our strong balance sheet, cash flow generation and significant scale in key markets, I've said it before and it remains true today. I wouldn't trade hands with anyone in the industry. Thank you for joining us today. And as I always say, onward and yes on three.
spk01: At this time, Kim Rivers and Wes Gatman will be available to answer any questions. Operator,
spk03: please open up
spk01: the call for
spk03: questions. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, we will open the floor for questions. If you'd like to ask a question, you may press star and then one using a touch-tone telephone. To withdraw your questions, you may press star and two. In the interest of time, we do ask that you please limit yourselves to one question and a single follow-up. Once again, that is star and then one to join the question queue. Our first question today comes from Erin Gray from Alliance Global Partners. Please go ahead with your question. Good
spk10: morning
spk03: and thank you much for the questions and congrats on the quarter. So first question for me is on the gross margins. A nice job there with the 60%. You guided to the remainder of the year being mid-50s or better. Just wanted to dig a little bit deeper into that. You mentioned lower cultivation costs, driving some of the bees in this quarter or benefiting. So just as we look going forward, how much of it is just lower volume, leveraging fixed costs as you guided to lower sales and less of the higher cultivation, lower cost of covalent stress flowing through as well as Ohio benefit. Just trying to better understand some of the guide there to the lower gross margins in the back half relative to the really nice gross margins you just put up. Thank you.
spk05: Yeah, thanks Erin. So a couple of points there. Our guide on gross margins has been consistent. In this quarter, we had some unforeseen positive influence on gross margin, as we mentioned in the prepared remarks. So we had, you know, Jeffco, which is our large facility was definitely firing on all cylinders. And in addition, we had some legacy capacity that we brought back online that candidly outperformed fairly significantly for us this quarter. That being said, a lot of the benefits that we're receiving right now in our cultivation gains have to do with yields. And candidly, that is very strain specific. So depending on our pre-mix and depending on, you know, how that plays out from a customer preference perspective that will, you know, shift those gains to some extent. So I think, you know, that's one thing. The other thing that I would mention is in the quarter, we also saw wholesale margin improvement across a couple of our markets. Again, really having to do with product mix, which of course, in addition, will be tied to consumer preferences, as well as demand in those markets. And then of course, also product mix is a huge contributor to gross margin quarter to quarter. So, you know, in Q3, as I think everyone understands, a couple of our really key markets do have seasonality built into them. And so with that seasonal pressure, along with, you know, again, potential mix shift, we believed again that that mid 50s target was a valid one, particularly in this next quarter when we've got some additional seasonal pressure on the business in line with historical trends.
spk03: Okay, great. That's really helpful color there. And then just a second one on me, just as we think about Florida, ballot measure, yes on three. Any commentary you can provide in terms of plan increase in campaigning as we get closer to the election? I know you had alluded to last time, the plan for that to, you know, pick up as we get closer to November. And then just any commentary in terms of those, you know, contributing and an opponent to the measure. And if anything's been, you know, outside what you had been expecting there. Thank you.
spk05: Yeah, we are continued, we continue to be very fired up and excited, of course, about the yes on three campaign. It is progressing according to plan. Certainly we are going to continue to be a supporter and continue to lead from the front. I mean, we've gotten kind of this far, if you will. So I think it would be a mistake to let off the gas and coming into home plate, if you will. We are continuing to, you know, work with a coalition of additional companies and supporters. You know, we had a fundraiser last week for some of our ancillary partners and are continuing to look for ways to work with folks. Of course, not only, and we remain very hopeful and optimistic that folks will contribute again, coming into the vote, but also looking for ways that we can coordinate with our stores and our employee engagement, our customer engagement as well across all two leave and stores in the state of Florida currently as an example, folks can pick up a yard sign or a bumper sticker free of charge. So this is a shameless plug as well for anyone in the state of Florida. And we're encouraging our partners to do the same. So there's going to be, you know, a lot of continued activity on the yes on three campaign as we move forward towards November here.
spk10: Okay, great. Thanks so much for the call. I'll jump back in with you.
spk03: Thanks. Our next question comes from Luke Hannon from Canaccord Januity. Please go ahead with your question.
spk06: Yeah, thanks. Good morning and congrats on the results. I wanted to ask about free cash or other cash capital allocation. I mean, you generated a ton of cash this quarter, at least relative to our model coming in well ahead. And certainly we understand investors realize that Florida adult use takes precedence as far as capital allocation goes. But I guess my question is with this much cash on the balance sheet, you think you can deploy everything that you need to for that initiative and also fund opportunities as well? Do you have a chance to sort of have your cake and eat it too here?
spk05: Yeah, thanks for the question, Luke. Absolutely. I mean, we are in a, I think, enviable position as it relates to our cash generation capabilities and as well as of course the cash that we have currently on hand. So we feel like we are in a great posture to be able to, as you said, of course, not only, continue to invest as appropriate into the Florida adult use campaign, which we believe is a very, there's extremely extraordinarily high ROI on those dollars as well as to continue to support our growth initiatives across our portfolio, which will include, as we mentioned, investing in additional retail in Ohio, continuing our store filled out as we've discussed since the beginning of this year. And then the additional infrastructure, foundational as well as longer term infrastructure improvements that we're continuing to invest in. I mean, I think the reality is is that some of those infrastructure investments that we started many years ago are now showing up in our business and showing up in our results. And so it is very important that we continue to invest of course, not only for today, but also for the future. But yes, we're very excited about our current and our future position.
spk06: Great. And for my follow up here, I wanted to ask about the quarter to date trends. Can you delineate how much of that mid single digit decline quarter on quarter, how much is related to traffic versus price? I imagine it's more traffic related because of the seasonality.
spk05: Yeah, I mean, so it's really, it's a mix and it's gonna vary somewhat by market Luke. We've got both of course, some softer traffic in certain markets with those snowbirds, et cetera, leaving the state as the weather gets hotter. And as well as some shifts in consumer preferences with a bit more shifting back towards value, right? Beginning in first part of second quarter, we certainly saw some trading up as an into some of our more premium categories, again, consistent with what we've seen in the past, over the summer, traffic lightens up some and folks are a bit more cost conscious as they look for an increased value proposition. And so again, that leads to a little bit of differences in product mix, et cetera, with a little bit of a more of a shift to value. I mean, I think the good news for us is that we've got really strong brand and strong brand performance in each of those categories and we're able to flex portfolio in response to those consumer preferences.
spk10: Great, thank you very much. Our next question comes from Frederick Smith from ATV Capital, please go
spk03: ahead with your question.
spk11: Hi, morning, I'm from the great quarter and great margins here. My first question just on Arizona, could you comment on what you're seeing that market in terms of just overall growth and competitive environment, abstracting the seasonality here, it seems like it's a market where sales are decreasing sequentially and year over year. So could you comment on that dynamic and your strategy for Arizona, thanks.
spk05: Sure, we continue to remain, Arizona is a cornerstone market for us, it continues to be an important market for us. In the quarter, we saw a couple of positives, right? One, I would say the adoption rate of our loyalty program in Arizona was very exciting. That's a market where previously because the nature of adult use and there was a lack of data for us in that market and we just didn't have emails and phone numbers, et cetera. So the loyalty program has given us a way to incentivize folks to provide that information and for us to be able to market specifically and directly to our customers there. Really overwhelmingly for the first time, we have that information of course, for our medical patients there, but for adult use consumers who are local, that information previously was not available. So we have launched marketing in Arizona to a larger audience now and we're seeing some good results from that and we'll certainly utilize our platforms to learn more and more about those consumers as time goes on. So that would be one data point. Secondly, of course, we now have a unified platform there. So we're all 100% truly branded in Arizona. We've been ramping up our internal brands in Arizona as well. To your point, Arizona as a whole, when you look at the statewide data, there has been pressure on that market. I think for us, what we see as a positive is our market share has actually been increasing alongside of that downward trend. So I think for us, we always challenge ourselves and we always say that our biggest competitors are ourselves. So we're looking for ways to remain competitive there and to, again, better every day for us to better understand the consumer and the market there so we can continue to refine our product offerings and our marketing tactics to meet the customer demand there. But Arizona is absolutely, and I think you all know this, it is a very seasonal market. So we are in the Q3, that's the time where that market has the most pressure from a seasonality perspective. And then of course it rebounds in Q4 and Q1.
spk11: Thank you for the great call. My second question is on Pennsylvania. So I think we continue to see some good data from that market in terms of growth and prices stabilizing and maybe even recovery. So is that something that you're seeing in your operations in Pennsylvania and would you expect that sort of recovery to continue?
spk05: Yeah, I mean, Pennsylvania is a great market for us. Similarly, we are and have continued to see price stabilization there along with our internal brands are really performing exceptionally well. In Pennsylvania, I think we have built our data in that state where we are very tuned in to our customers and have adjusted product mix to their shifting demand over time. In addition, we are and have been leaning into wholesale in Pennsylvania and have been effectively increasing our wholesale reach there as well. So Pennsylvania again is a very strong market. This team there has been doing a fantastic job.
spk10: Thank you. Our next question comes from Russell Stanley from Beacon Securities. Please go ahead with your question.
spk09: Good morning and congrats on the quarter. I guess my first question around capex and the increase there, just wanted to clarify how much of that increase is dedicated or your mark for supporting the adult use campaign effort itself as opposed to physical expansion in Florida or other markets, thanks.
spk05: Yeah, so we wouldn't put dollars and just to clarify, we would not put dollars for the campaign passage into a capex line. So zero, I guess would be the answer. I'm not sure if you have a follow up. If I could
spk09: rephrase the question, just all of that incremental 30 going into Florida then or give us a sense, obviously I imagine Florida is the bulk there, but other markets where maybe you've looked at capex.
spk05: Yeah, so I think with capex, there are a few different things. So one, we mentioned that we have this opportunity to invest additional dollars in Ohio, which we think of course, given the adult use conversion makes a ton of sense. So we will be investing there. The three additional stores in addition to the three that are converting to adult use for us today, we have three more that will be opening we hope very, very early 2025, which means the bulk of that investment also will come in 2024. In addition, as we have mentioned, we do plan to invest in some additional capacity across our portfolio. I mentioned we were bringing some legacy capacity online in Florida right now, and that's to support current state. So we do have with these additional stores in Florida that we're bringing online as well. Just keep in mind, right? We have to make sure we've got enough supply for those stores as well. And yes, I mean, to your point, certainly we will need to make some calls ahead of adult use conversion. The bulk of that, of course, we're attempting to do risk to after, but there will be some moving into
spk10: the vote. Maybe if I could just, my last question,
spk09: just from stores in Florida, you've already, I think, opened more this year than you did all last year, and understand you're still guiding to 25 plus company wide. Just wondering in Florida, are you finding it, are you seeing any increased challenge in identifying ideal sites for new locations?
spk00: I imagine
spk09: there are geographic pockets that have become more attractive under an adult use scenario. So just, we'd love to hear your thoughts on how you're finding, citing new stores and the extent to which that's becoming easier or harder. Thanks.
spk05: Yes, and so, you know, listen, we've got a fantastic team here in Florida. And I mean, the good news for us is we've been at this for a long time. And so we've got a pretty specific process for how we identify and rank and map out locations and where we would like to be. And that's a fairly long range plan that we execute against. So, you know, I think the team continues to do a great job identifying optimal sites and, you know, sites that we are excited about and regardless of what happens in November. So, and just keep in mind, right, that, look, our store opening cadence has ebbed and flowed, but this is in no way the fastest that we've ever opened stores, right? So we're used to moving, you know, fairly quickly as it relates to store openings, when the opportunities present themselves, it's just not always linear, right? And so, you know, we'll have stores that are identified and negotiations with the landlord or permitting or what have you can speed up or slow down that process. So it can, you know, again, it's not always a perfect science as it relates to how those end up rolling out, but, you know, again, the team does a great job and we're really pleased with our progression against our goals for this year.
spk09: That's great.
spk10: Congrats again. I'll get back in the queue.
spk03: Okay. And
spk10: our next
spk03: question comes from Eric Deloria from Craig Hallam Capital Group. Please get ahead with your question.
spk02: Great, thank you for taking my questions and congrats on another impressive quarter here. My questions are on Ohio. Congrats on that settlement. I'm getting you two additional retail locations in time for adult use here. And I guess congrats on the first online sale as well. So my question is on the service agreement you ventured into providing operational support to the Ironson production facility. Just wondering if there'll be any licensing fees associated with that, any recognized revenue and if so, if that will be material.
spk05: Yeah, thanks for the question. So that agreement will continue to show up as a VIE, so you'll be able to track it and the financials as a VIE, Eric.
spk02: All right, thank you for that. And then in terms of the three additional dispensaries, just wondering rough timing right now. I mean, I know you got a lot going on expansion wise and this is obviously pretty fresh. So I'm assuming these aren't ironed out here, but just kind of high level, should we think of those three additional stores as opening kind of through year end 2025 or should we think of those as coming on maybe a bit sooner than that? Thanks.
spk05: Yeah, I would have those coming on in Q1 2025. That's our goal.
spk10: Great, thank you for taking my questions. No problem. And our next question comes from Scott Fortune from Roth
spk03: Capital. Please go ahead with your question.
spk04: Yeah, good morning and thank you for the questions. I know you have a lot going on in Florida, obviously very exciting there, but just priorities for your cash position here, a lot of optionality as you mentioned, but since for options like buying back stock, paying down debt or M&A opportunities and just kind of what are you seeing in potential M&A? We're seeing that kind of picking up here, assets in the current marketplace, kind of outside of obviously your focus in Florida here, but just kind of a little bit of a color on the market from that side of things.
spk05: Sure, as I mentioned before, we are very comfortable with our cash position. I've said previously that right now it's very important that we fully execute against the opportunities that we have in front of us and remain focused there. I think that it's a mistake in business and it's just philosophical to take your eye off of what's in front of you to chase kind of a shiny object if you will. I don't think that there are any opportunities that exist today that won't exist past November 5th. So for us, it's very critical that we continue to focus to get the vote across the finish line, which let there's a 60% threshold. And so it is going to take every single bit of effort that we've got to get that passed. The other thing that I would say is that we like to have optionality in our opportunities, if you will, we're in a very comfortable spot. I think right now, as we think about our debt position and how that could be repositioned and moving forward. And again, we like to remain opportunistic on the M&A front, but also of course, wanna make sure that when, I'll call it the largest opportunity in the cannabis sector is in front of us and we're the leader as it relates to that opportunity that we make sure that we do everything we can to realize that first.
spk04: I appreciate the color there. And just a follow up, just on kind of the additional color on the overall cannabis consumer. And since it's a more challenging macro environment today, a little bit kind of here through quarter and trends towards value, you call that out, kind of going the value trade down here. But how it relates to pricing, I guess now with your, can you provide more kind of loyalty, kind of success and metrics there to kind of offset pricing in potential seasonal volume kind of demand for you in the Arizona, Florida side of things, just the sense of the consumer spend, what you're seeing from a trend standpoint. Heading in kind of a little tougher macro environment here for the consumer.
spk05: Yeah, I mean, I think that again, right now seasonal pressure remains certainly relatively in line. I think it's a little early to be able to call or to be able to give color, significant color on if there's anything additional as it relates to the macro on the cannabis consumer specifically. Again, I'll just say that we have, I think fortunately been through a number of cycles at this point and are able to and have levers that we can easily pull as we, or if we see those trends develop. As it relates to the trade down from a value perspective, as I mentioned, we are certainly seeing that again, a little bit too early to be able to comment if it's any different than kind of normal seasonal, right? I don't know that we're gonna have full disability on that just candidly until the end of the third quarter. And as we go into fourth quarter, when that seasonality, when we're coming out of that seasonal time period. So a little bit of mix in there right now from market to market, as I mentioned, and not all markets are affected by those seasonal trends. And then of course, we have Ohio thrown in as well. So a little bit of a mixed bag right now. But again, feel good about our ability to flex and to respond to specific consumer behaviors as we see them.
spk10: Thanks for the color.
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spk03: comes from Mike Regan from MJ Research Company. Please go with your question.
spk12: Hey, thanks everyone. Most of the questions have been asked, but I guess a quick question on that new ExpressStore model you started opening. Do you have any updates on sort of how that's performing and how many you have and how many you'd like to open of that model versus the more traditional store? Thanks.
spk05: Yeah, thanks Mike. So we have two of those open currently in the portfolio. They have been performing at or above expectation depending on the metric. And we are looking to incorporate more of those into the portfolio where it makes sense. And so, yeah, we think it's a great option for us to have and to have that capability, particularly in specific communities that may not warrant a full blown, fully staffed, if you will, location, but still have customers who would otherwise be driving a good ways. And then also that we would otherwise be delivering a good ways. Yeah, it's a good tool in our toolbox as we look out for further expansion sites.
spk12: And just to follow up on Scott's question, if I heard you correctly, it sounds like the trade down environment, the trade down effects so far seems to be more seasonal rather than competitive or consumer health, or at least you can't tell. I don't want to put words in your mouth. Is that basically what I'm understanding at this point?
spk05: Yeah, I mean, listen, traffic is, everything right now is relatively in line with seasonality, right? So it's difficult for us to tell because of that seasonality, if there's something else right at play. The only thing I can do is point out to some of those markets that don't have that seasonal pressure. And there it's very consistent with what we've seen previously. So that's what I mean. It's a bit of a mix. Like it's not like something we're seeing across the entire portfolio, in a uniform way that would point absolutely to some sort of a macro shift that's showing up right now. Now it could mean, because we've seen this before too, that it just shows up at different times in different markets, depending on everything is local to a certain extent, depending on what's happening with the economy in that particular area or region. So again, I'm not trying to hide the ball here. Just we, that's just what we're seeing today. I think we'll have a lot more to share on that topic next quarter when we have all of Q3 behind us and a bit of Q4 to compare and contrast against.
spk10: Great, thanks a lot.
spk03: And our next question comes from Andrew Simple from Echelon Capital Markets. Please go ahead with your question.
spk07: Hi there, good morning. I just wanna ask on your comments about squeezing costs of the cost of goods sold line and particularly Jefferson County facility being a big part of that. You did mention that Jeffco was kind of operating here at Peat Performance. So has that tailwind to margins mostly been realized or is there more room to go there? And maybe outside of Jeffco across the country at some of your other cultivation facilities, how much more room do you feel there is to continue squeezing costs of the business and margins higher in some of your other states?
spk05: Thanks for that question. So as we said, Jeffco we feel like is relative to Peat Performance. And in addition, we mentioned that the yields with Passporter and that again really has to do with the mix of industry specifically. Of what's planted there was exceptionally high. So that's part of the reason why we're not guiding to higher margins because we do believe that that will fluctuate and probably shouldn't fluctuate depending on consumer preferences. I mean, in other words, we're not gonna plant the exact same thing all the time because that would not meet the needs of the business from a consumer perspective. So there will be variability there depending on plants and yields in the particular quarter. As it relates to, so I'll say that. I'll also say that of course we look for cost savings and efficiencies across the portfolio every day. So again, I think that we will continue to be disciplined as we look for ways to increase efficiencies. There isn't anything in front of me today that I could point to that would say, yes, there's additional low-hanging fruit that we can go after there. And I think the team's done a phenomenal job driving those costs down over the last 12 months and getting us to where we are today. And again, that's why we were guiding to that mid-50s because when you think about again, where we are today and where we've got fluctuation or variability could go on the cultivation side, but then also when we think about where we are and again, the seasonal pressure, consumer preferences, product mix-ships, potentially et cetera, and that's where we're comfortable and that we wake up every day and always try to strive for incremental improvement. That's one of our mantras here at Trulia.
spk07: Got it, that's helpful. And then maybe just returning to the Ohio market, what's your thoughts in that stage, just longer term about, are you comfortable being a retailer in that state or are you on the hunt for cultivation to compliment the retail footprint you're building out?
spk05: Yeah, so Ohio has some very specific regulations around ownership and what the layout needs to be, which we of course are very focused on being in compliance. And so, as I mentioned, we have a VIE relationship with a tier one cultivation and processor. And so we're very comfortable with that arrangement. And then of course, we have our three stores now, we have our three stores in the beginning of the year, and then there's a possibility through our partnerships that there could be another two dispensary opportunities depending on lottery results in the future. So we would love to continue to build out that platform. We think it's gonna be a great market for us and we're really excited to be among the first operators to open today for adult e-sales.
spk10: Great, thanks for taking my questions or get back into queue.
spk03: Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll be concluding today's question and answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to Christine Hersey for any closing comments.
spk01: Thank you everyone for your time today. We look forward to sharing additional updates during our next earnings call. Thanks again and have a great day.
spk03: And with that, ladies and gentlemen, we'll conclude today's conference call and presentation. We thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your line.
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