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2/14/2024
Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Treasury Wine Estates fiscal year 2024 half year results. All participants are in a listen only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question and answer session. If you wish to ask a question, you will need to press the start key followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Tim Ford, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.
Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us for our half-year results briefing. With me here in Melbourne is Stuart Boxer and Pete Nielsen. Ben Dollard's in California, and Tom King is in Paris, in France, and I'm sure he'll explain why as we get through his part of the... conversation today. I'm pleased to announce the results today for the first half of fiscal 24. It's a period where our group performance was broadly in line with expectations and reflective of the continued strengthening of our luxury wine portfolio and the strong consumer demand that still exists around the world for luxury brands. There's no question, though, that it is a challenging operating environment with pretty competitive market dynamics, but I'm pleased with our underlying operating performance, in particular the dynamic way in which our teams are managing this environment and evolving our business, focused on continued execution of our strategy, which we remain very confident will support our long-term growth ambitions. From a numbers point of view, EBITS declined 6.5% to $289.8 million and EBITS margin declined 2.9 percentage points to 22.6%, which reflects our deliberate approach to the phasing of Penfold's Bin and Icon shipments across the year in order to retain flexibility in our global distribution and pricing models given the current review of tariffs on Australian wine into China. Despite holding back this portion of the bins and icon shipments, Penfolds continued its strong momentum, particularly in Asia and Australia, yet to still grow EBITs, whilst the Treasury of America's luxury portfolio returned to growth, which again is pleasing, driven by a modest increase in availability. Overall, our luxury net sales revenue grew 4% globally, supporting stability in our top line and offsetting the lower premium commercial revenue, which declined 2% and 6% respectively, and drove the EBITS declines in Treasury Americas and Treasury premium brands. Market trends in the period were broadly in line with our expectations. As I said, consumer demand for luxury wine remaining strong in our key markets, the ongoing resilience in the premium price points and the continued shift to consumer preference away from the commercial wine in the category. And we expect these trends to continue through the remainder of this fiscal year. Given the planned profile of the Penfold's bin and ICON shipments, we expect a stronger second half to deliver mid to high single digit organic EBITs growth for the full year, which excludes the additional expected EBITs from Dow of US $23 to $25 million in the second half. As we look forward over the half ahead, we are laser focused on three key priorities. The first being the expedited review of tariffs on Australian wine which remains ongoing with a determination anticipated in March and we are well prepared and well placed to re-establish our Australian country of origin portfolio in China should the review result in the removal of these tariffs. Importantly, our outlook for the second half that I've just explained does not include any benefit from a positive outcome in relation to the tariff review. Treasury Americas, following the acquisition of Dow, is also very focused on driving its clear strength we now have as the leading luxury wine portfolio in the United States. And with a return to normalised availability of luxury wine as we move forward into F25 and we transition away from the 2020 vintage, we're expected to support growth of our existing portfolio plus the acquisition of Dow. And third, priority work is underway to assess the future operating model for our global portfolio of premium brands, with a specific focus on how best to leverage their scale across our network globally, with a determination to be made this calendar year, 2024. I'll touch on these in more detail shortly. But from a financial performance, our headline, and Stuart will cover in more detail, our NSR per case increased 9%, driven by the continued and ongoing premiumisation of our portfolio mix. EBIT's margin declined 1.4 to 22.6, and we expect EBIT's margin to normalise, importantly, in the second half, in line with the weighting of Penfold's bin and ICON shipments. Net profit after tax declined 5.9% in line with the change in EBITs, while earnings per share fell 7.5%, reflecting in part the increase in the average shares outstanding as a result of the capital raised to fund the equity portion of the acquisition for Dow. Cash conversion was 75% and excluding the change in premium and luxury non-current inventory was 66%, which is below our annual target of 90% or higher. Leverage increased to 2.2 times, driven by 445 million of borrowings we used to fund the debt portion of the acquisition of Dow. Finally, the board has declared a 17% share interim dividend, which while representing a one cent reduction on the F23 interim dividend per share, it is a 6% increase to the value of the dividend paid, given the increase in the shares outstanding. To touch quickly on the divisions, Penfold's result, again, a standout. NSR and EBIT's growth delivered despite the deliberate shipment phasing of the Bin and Icon shipments into the second half. This continued strong momentum in Asia and Australia in particular drove the performance, and pleasingly, growth came from all portfolio tiers. Testament to the way the Penfold's team and the brand itself is connecting to a broad range of luxury consumers globally. We expect NSR per case and EBITS margin again to normalise in the second half in line with the half-on-half weighting of our shipment profile. In Treasury Americas, luxury portfolio return to growth is supported by a modest increase in wine availability ahead of a return to normalised levels from F25, which will see a double-digit increase in availability in the next fiscal year. This, in addition to Dow, will drive future divisional growth. However, overall division NSR did decline, led by our premium portfolio, which was down 14%, driven by the lower shipments of the 19 crimes modern tier innovations that were launched in the same period last fiscal year, while the classics tier stabilised and performed in line with the prior period. Just one thing to note on the US performance as well, we have not recognised any Dow earnings in the first half of fiscal 24. Higher COGS per case also contributed to the reduction in the divisional EBITs and EBITs margin, with COGS improvement expected in the second half as we transition to selling vintage 21 wines and through the 2020 California vintage. As for TPB, lower NSR and EBITs resulted from reduced shipments to Asia and double-digit declines in the commercial portfolio. Within the business there, the priority premium portfolio, including 19 crimes, squealing pig and pepper jack, continued to grow, up 8% in the period, and our performance in Australia and the UK was in line with our expectations. Shortly, Tom, Ben and Pete will give you a fair bit more detail on their divisions. So just turning to our three key focus areas that I wanted to outline that we are absolutely laser focused on as a management team. First, relating to the review of China tariffs on Australian wine imports, which remains ongoing, as I've said, and for which we expect a decision and therefore a path forward by the end of March. Should the tariffs be removed, We are both prepared and well placed to re-establish our country, Australian country of origin portfolio in China to supplement our other country of origin portfolios. We've outlined this before, but it's a reminder of what we will do should this change. Firstly, we will reallocate a portion of Penfold's bins and icons back into China to rebuild that market for the Australian portfolio while ensuring that we maintain strong momentum of growth and diversification across the global markets that we have very successfully grown over the past three years. We'll look to implement price increases on certain bin and icon tiers given we expect global demand to significantly exceed global supply while pursuing incremental sourcing to produce greater volumes, which is a strong focus of the supply team as we enter vintage 2024 here in Australia over the course of the next couple of months. We'll also be able to pretty quickly re-establish distribution of our entry-level Penfolds portfolio, the likes of One By Penfolds, Max's and Canunga Hill, where we do have incremental wine to sell pretty much immediately. From a team point of view, our plan is to expand our sales and marketing resources to support the increased level of product onshore, and we'll continue to grow this over time as the portfolio grows. And finally, just an important point, if this change does occur, we will continue our multi-country of origin strategy for Penfolds, which we believe can remain a significant element and opportunity of our growth agenda going forward. From a market perspective, we're confident that China does remain an attractive luxury wine market for our brands and a significant growth opportunity for Penfolds over the long term. Our confidence in this opportunity, however, goes well beyond the market itself and the dynamics that may exist in the market today and reflects the way that we have maintained our business and the Penfolds brand in China, particularly over the last three years, whilst the tariffs have been on Australian wine. The retention of a very strong organisational presence onshore has been critical, with our team of over 120 people today led by an experienced local leadership team who were a key part of the journey in China prior to 2020 and have retained strong connections with our customers, our consumers and relevant industry bodies as well. And our investment in the multi-country of origin portfolio has paid clear dividends, allowing us to retain not only wine on the shelf, but genuine brand presence in the market. We've also been very methodical and deliberate in reinvesting the onshore earnings from those sales back into AMP, allowing Penfolds to retain its unique appeal with the Chinese wine consumers. As you see on the slide, our recent brand health study we show here reflects the strength of Penfolds against the top 10 wine brands currently in the Chinese market across a number of key brand attributes and factors. Most notably, Penfolds ranks as the number two imported brand for awareness in China behind only Chateau Lafite, a remarkable achievement given the limited availability of the product in the market and a great confirmation that our investment has actually been successful over the last three years. Should the tariffs be removed, we don't think of this as re-establishing our business in China, but instead executing a clear plan to re-establish the Australian country of origin portfolio in that market. Our second big execution priority over the course of this second half and beyond links to the December acquisition of Dow, which now establishes Treasury Americas as the leading luxury wine business in the United States, with an iconic portfolio that includes Stag's Leap, Frank Family Vineyards, Boullieu Vineyard, Behringer, as well as obviously Dow. We remain very confident in the strategic and financial benefits that we expect this acquisition to deliver to TWE, which we lay down in October, but I'd like to reiterate. What it will allow us to do is accelerate our transformation in the United States into a luxury-focused wine business in what is still the world's largest luxury wine market with attractive fundamentals. It accelerates our global premiumisation focus, increasing the contribution for luxury brands across TWE to greater than 50% of our global revenue, with immediate accretion to earnings growth, NSR per case and margins. It will fill a key gap in our portfolio at the 20 to 40 US dollar price point, in addition to strengthening the existing portfolio at higher price points. Importantly, it provides scale in luxury wine to support what we've outlined today as our future standalone Treasury of America's luxury group and division, which I'll touch on in some more detail shortly, and will also deliver mid to high single digit EPS accretion in F25, the first full year of ownership, inclusive of the pro forma cost synergies of more than US$20 million per annum. It's important just to reiterate, now we own that business and we've had a couple of months in that business, that our objectives continue and remain as we outlined at the end of October. Dow's 2023 calendar year performance was significantly ahead of the market and in line with the expectations, driven by strong growth across all of the portfolio price tiers and in several key US markets. Pleasingly, the team are delivering sustained growth, particularly outside of California, where the significant distribution, expansion and growth opportunities lie, as reflected in the data on our presentation for the last 26 and 52 weeks. Looking forward, our expectations for Dow are unchanged. The EBITS contribution for the second half of this fiscal year, or either half we're in, is expected to be in the range of US$23 to $25 million. And over the medium term, we expect Dow to deliver average annual low double-digit NSR growth, led by the growth of the Discovery and Journey tiers, which will be ahead of the category, well ahead of the category, and accelerated growth in the ultra-luxury tiers with brands like Patrimony. Business integration plans are on track. The team stood up and they are working very diligently and hard to achieve what we've outlined. And we remain confident in the realisation of synergies of at least the $20 million US we outlined. We also look forward to welcoming you all to Dow Mountain and to the Paso Robles region, which I'm sure a number of you haven't actually visited before in June, to really experience the business, experience the brand, experience the region. And we can't wait to see you there. The third priority. is a more strategic priority. First two are execution. The strategic priority, given the addition of Dow, we now have the scale to support a future standalone Treasury America's luxury division with the metrics that we outline, which will sit alongside Penfolds and leave us with two outstanding luxury wine businesses, each with strong long-term growth prospects, attractive financial profiles, supported by the attractive category dynamics that exist in the luxury wine category. On a pro forma basis, Penfolds and the Treasury of America's luxury, as we outlined, would already represent over 75% of our group EBITs. To achieve that, our first priority, however, is to create a separate sales and marketing focus for the luxury and premium portfolios under Ben's leadership in the Americas, effective from July 1 this year, fiscal 25, the start of. We do know from experience with the separation of Penfolds and the Treasury premium brands business that this operating model will bring with it the benefits of separate focus to enhance our business plans, our customer relationships, the portfolio innovation, and ultimately, strengthen the financial performance. Longer term, we do see strong potential benefit in creating a global premium division, which would consist of Treasury Americas and Treasury premium brands as a second step. particularly given the similarities that exist in the category dynamics and the consumer trends within these premium price points across our key markets, and with the opportunity to centrally drive insights, innovation and brand building with brands that are sold across multiple markets. So the work is underway to assess this future operating model for our premium brands, of which an important element will be to include the benefits of scale that this business brings to Penfolds and TAM Luxury, which are our key growth drivers, particularly given the consolidation of our supply chains. This work will be completed before the end of this calendar year, and clearly, once we've achieved a determination of that work, we'll explain that to our investors as well as what our path forward is. So with that, I'll hand over to Stuart to cover the financial performance.
Thank you, Tim, and good morning, everyone. It's good to be here. I'm pleased to share with you the financial highlights of our fiscal 24 interim results. So starting with the key measures of performance, group net sales revenue declined 2.3% on a constant currency basis, reflecting the premium portfolio declines in Treasury Americas and the commercial portfolio declines within Treasury premium brands. Against these, as Tim has already shared, our global luxury NSR grew 4%, with Penfolds maintaining its strong positive momentum and with modestly increased availability of luxury wines within Treasury Americas. Net sales revenue per case increased 9.1%, reflecting continued portfolio mix shift to luxury and premium wine, which now contributes 86% of group NSR. Working down the P&L, cost of goods sold per case increased 13.4%, reflecting the premiumisation of the portfolio and the sell-through of higher cost vintages in all divisions. We expect this metric to improve in the second half, particularly for Treasury Americas, as we transition to the sell-through of the luxury vintage 2021 and transition off the short 2020 vintage. Cost of doing business margin decreased 1.7 percentage points to 19.9%, driven by lower overheads in Treasury premium brands following the business restructure in the fourth quarter of fiscal 23, together with a $3.6 million gain on sale benefit compared to the prior corresponding period, and the phasing of advertising and promotion expenditure in Treasury, Americas and Penfolds given the planned top line phasing. EBITS was $289.8 million, a decrease of 9.8% on a constant currency basis, and EBITS margin declined 1.4 percentage points to 22.6%, largely driven by the COGS impacts I just described. Return on capital decreased 0.1 percentage points to 11.1%, largely reflecting the EBITS outcome. This number excludes Dow. As Dow will be reflected in return on capital at the full year with the full asset base and effectively a half year of income, we do expect a mildly dilutive impact in the near term given the growth nature of the acquisition, but we are confident this will improve relatively quickly given the growth plans and cost synergies we expect to deliver from Dow. And I'll talk to Leverage a little bit later on. Material items, total material items of $37.5 million or $29 million after tax have been recognised in the half, of which the pre-tax cash flow was $7 million. That was an outflow. $35.1 million of the material item costs pre-tax were associated with the Dow acquisition. We also incurred some residual costs associated with the implementation of our new TPB operating model and supply chain restructure, which will be completed during the second half. Our overall outlook for net one-off costs associated with the TPB restructure remains at $90 million pre-tax, inclusive of expected gains on sale of assets, including commercial vineyards, which we expect to realise this half. Moving now to the balance sheet. Net assets increased $879 million this half on a reported basis, primarily due to the acquisition of Dow Vineyards. The recognition of Dow, which has impacted intangibles, property, plant and equipment, working capital and debt, as well as the recognition of the earn out as part of other liabilities, is provisional and subject to final purchase price accounting, which will be finalised ahead of the full year result. In addition to this, working capital increased, driven by a decline in payables due to the timing of grower payments and a higher receivables as a result of the timing of sales into Asia in particular, partly offset by lower inventories. So turning to some more detail on inventory. Against the prior corresponding period, total inventory volume is flat while value has increased 12%. Current inventory increased $45 million, impacted by the addition of Dow inventory to the luxury component and partly offset by reduced premium and commercial inventories. Non-current inventory increased $193 million versus the prior year. Overall, luxury inventory increased 24%, reflecting the strong 2023 California vintage in addition to the inclusion of the Dow inventory. partly offset by the reduced premium and commercial inventories. Now moving to cash flow and net debt. Operating cash flow before interest tax and material items was $274 million for the half year, with reported cash conversion of 75.2%. Excluding the change in non-current luxury and premium inventory, cash conversion was 66.1%. Cash conversion was again impacted by the timing of sales, particularly into Asia, with a greater proportion of export sales shipping in December, and also due to the timing of grower payments which contributed to reduced payables and a half. We expect F24 cash conversion to be approximately 80%, excluding changes in non-current luxury and premium inventory. This half year cash conversion outcome and the full year outlook follows a similar outcome in sales profile in F23. So what we are saying is that at this point we are not seeing an improvement in the sales profile across this year and there is potential for it to be slightly more back end weighted. We've previously explained that whilst this profile is not entirely unusual for our business, it has become exacerbated given the cost of funds. So our customers are wanting their orders later. This is not a profile we are happy with, and we are focused as a team on ways we can improve this sustainably, but it's not an instant fix. Beyond F24, we remain committed to our long-term target for full-year cash conversion, excluding the investment in non-current premium and luxury inventory of 90% or higher. Moving now to CapEx. Total capex for the period was $66 million, which included maintenance capex of 60 and growth capex of 6 million relating to the investment in low and no alcohol wine production technology here in Australia and the continued expansion of our winery operations in France. We continue to expect maintenance capex for F24 to be approximately $100 million and growth capex in the second half will include the purchase of a New Zealand vineyard for approximately $50 million, supporting the future sourcing of Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc, which continues to grow globally. Turning finally to capital management. Our investment grade capital structure was retained post the acquisition of Dow Vineyards with leverage of 2.2 times at the first half, lower than the 2.5 times F23 pro forma figure we shared on announcement due to favourable currency translation and the accounting recognition of the earn out liability. We maintain our expectation to de-lever over the course of F24 and beyond, returning to within our target 1.5 to 2.0 range by the end of F25. Our liquidity position remains strong with $1.2 billion of cash and committed undrawn debt facilities. As Tim said, we've today announced an interim dividend of 17 cents per share, representing a payout ratio of 76%. Slightly ahead of the upper end of our target range, based on our deliberate decision to wait penfold shipments to the second half, and not wanting shareholder returns to be impacted by this decision. We expect our full year payout ratio to be within our 55 to 70% target range. Franking is now at 70% following the acquisition of Dow, given the high proportion of expected future offshore earnings as outlined as part of the acquisition announcement in October. Elevating our focus on capital allocation and capital discipline will be a key priority moving forward with two particular areas of focus. As I've already stated, improving our revenue facing and operating cash flow profile. And secondly, driving return on capital growth right across TWE at a company, division, brand and asset level. So thank you. I will now hand over to Tom to cover Penfolds.
Thank you Stuart and good morning everyone from Paris. I'm delighted to report another strong result for Penfolds, driven by our continued focus on executing against our strategic priorities across all regions. While top line growth was moderated by the planned weighting of shipments to the second half, volume and NSR increased 14% and 8% respectively. With continued momentum across the portfolio in Asia, driven by strong growth in bin and icon volumes and the contribution of one-by-pen folds and our multi-country of origin wines in China. We also maintained our momentum in Australia, particularly across national accounts and in travel retail. NSR per case decreased 5%, reflecting the impact of portfolio mix from the second half bin and icon shipment weighting, along with the growth delivered in the entry-level tiers. Cogs per case increased 6%, reflecting the sell-through of higher-cost 2020 and 2021 Australian vintages relative to the lower-cost 2019 Australian vintage that was being sold in the prior period. We delivered EBITs of $187 million and an EBITs margin of 41.7%, and we expect the margin to normalise towards our long-term target of 45% in the second half, with the increased weighting of bin and icon shipments as planned. The first half results have been underpinned by the significant progress we continue to make against our strategic priorities. We continue to leverage our deep understanding of the luxury consumer to build stronger connections with our target demographic and rolled out new and innovative experiences such as Transcend by Penfolds and Voyage by Penfolds, often incorporated into our now highly anticipated Penfolds House activations. The popularity of our most recent execution in Guangzhou in China gives us great confidence in the continued strength of our brand in China, which was supported by the launch of CWT 521, our first bin level wine sourced and produced in China. We continue to make further gains in distribution and availability across the portfolio, with the deployment of dedicated luxury sales managers continuing to reap benefits in high profile accounts, Whilst our insights and activation investments are seeing us secure increased ranging and space in large retail accounts globally. The recent launch of our icon wines on Laplace de Bordeaux provides us with a significant incremental distribution channel across the EMEA region and further underlines the belief we and our partners have in the potential growth opportunities that exist. And just this week in Paris, we announced an exciting expansion of our champagne portfolio with the introduction of a new champagne in collaboration with our partner, Champagne Tienno. The extension and expansion of this strategic partnership will enable us to expand the availability of our champagne globally, allowing us to play a more meaningful role in more consumer occasions. In summary, I'm extremely pleased with the progress we're making on our journey to become a global luxury icon. We've connected and reconnected with more consumers than ever before via great experience-led brand activations. We're now showing up in more and more places where these consumers interact or engage with wine or luxury products, both physically and digitally. And we're providing them with more choice to experience quality Penfolds wines from the best wine-making regions around the world through the expansion of our portfolio. Thank you. I'll now hand over to Ben Dollard in California.
Thanks Tom and good morning. It's a pleasure to join you today from Napa Valley. We have a full agenda in our America's business led by the integration of Dow, expansion of our luxury footprint as the leading luxury wine company in the US and the execution of a number of exciting initiatives to stabilize the 19 crimes franchise. Our consumer obsessed strategy remains consistent, centered on nurturing existing loyal customers and attracting new consumers to wine. Our luxury portfolio availability returns to normalised levels beginning in fiscal 25 and our leading portfolio of brands is well positioned in this market where the fundamentals remain attractive. Turning to the key financial metrics, volume and NSR declined 7% respectively, driven by the premium portfolio, in particular lower shipments of 19 crimes modern tier innovations year over year. Our innovation continues to outpace market with strong consumer response. However, depletions did not perform to the same level as previous 19 crimes innovations. The 19 crimes classic tier performed in line with the prior period supported by the launch of the new campaign, refreshed packaging and promotions along with bold innovations. We are pleased with the 19 Crimes repack transition and we are seeing positive initial results as it replaces existing inventory on shelf. Packed transition will be completed across all markets in the second half of fiscal 24 and will be supported by the continued rollout of the new marketing campaign. We're excited to announce that 19 Crimes has entered into a partnership with UFC. This positions the brand as the official wine partner in the US. Partly offsetting the premium portfolio decline was growth from the luxury brand portfolio, supported by modestly higher luxury wine availability with Stag Sleep, the standout performer. We experienced increased consumer demand for Frank Family Vineyards with double digit depletion growth. The brand is well positioned for further distribution expansion as greater supply becomes available in fiscal 25 and beyond. We saw continued momentum and market-beating performance across cellar doors and wine clubs, and with the reopening of Sterling Vineyards in October, a major milestone, driving NSR growth of 5% from this important channel. NSR per case increased 1%, with the shift in portfolio mix largely offset by promotional pricing activity on non-core non-in-crimes items. COGS per case increased this period as we continued to sell through the high-cost, fire-impacted Vintage 2020, with improvement expected when we transitioned to selling Vintage 2021 in the second half. Cost of doing business reduced, driven by the facing of promotional activity and in-store activation to support the 19 Crimes Classic Tier relaunch in the second half of fiscal 24. We delivered EBITS of $93 million and an EBITS margin of 20.8%. We expect trading conditions to be consistent through the second half, leading to the delivery of NSR growth year on year and an EBITS margin of approximately 22% for the full year, excluding Dow. This will set the platform for fiscal 25 as availability of our luxury portfolio increases by double digits. Coupled with the acquisition of Dow, the contribution of our luxury portfolio increases to approximately 70% of Treasury America's EBITS margin on a pro forma basis. We are now the leading luxury portfolio in the United States with growth opportunities ahead. Thank you. I'll now hand over to Peter Nilsson in Melbourne.
Thanks, Ben, and good morning, everyone. I'm pleased to report the fiscal 24 interim results for Treasury premium brands. Pleasingly, consumers are continuing to engage with the category at premium price points, and innovation at these price points continues to introduce new consumers into the wine category. Our strategy remains focused on premiumising the portfolio and innovating on our core brands, with an increased focus on the strategic role that commercial volume plays in our business and the category. Turning to the key financial metrics. Volume and net sales revenue declined 12% and 8% respectively, driven by double-digit volume declines across the commercial portfolio and reduced premium portfolio shipments this period in Asia, where we realigned our inventory levels to trend depletion rates, a dynamic that we expect to continue through the second half. Outside of Asia, our premium portfolio net sales revenue was in line with the prior year, and we saw continued strong momentum for our priority premium brands, which grew net sales revenue by 8% against the prior comparative period, led by strong performances from Squealing Pig in Australia and 19 Crimes in EMEA. In Australia, the rollout of Squealing Pig's Summer of Love campaign has once again been a huge success and runs through the summer period across the Australian Open and Mardi Gras period, including on-premise and in-store activations, ensuring widespread visibility of the brand across summer. In EMEA, 19 Crimes was the number one share of voice for an alcohol brand during Halloween, with the introduction of two new designs and an interactive advertising campaign. A huge limited time offer innovation success for the brand. Net sales revenue per case increased 5%, reflecting portfolio mix shift, with the premium and luxury portfolios now contributing 63% of net sales revenue, up three percentage points versus the prior comparative period. Cost of goods per case increased 8%, driven by portfolio mix and input cost inflation for dry goods and logistics, and energy costs in the UK. Cost of doing business improved 15%, reflecting lower overheads following the division restructure and the realignment of brand investment with reduced divisional volume, as well as some incremental gains on the sale of vineyard assets. EBITS decreased 14.9% to $45.8 million, and EBITS margin declined 1 percentage point to 11.8%. Looking ahead to the second half, we expect market conditions to remain largely consistent with higher cost of doing business in the second half to result in full year EBITS margin being delivered in line with the prior year. Thanks. I'll now hand back to Tim. Thanks, Pete.
So just to quickly close with a few of the summary headlines. The first half has seen us deliver in line with expectations at a group level, given the deliberate phasing of the Penfold shipments across the two halves. Given this half-on-half whiting, clearly we expect a stronger and plan for a stronger performance in the second half to deliver the mid to high single-digit organic EBITS growth for the full year, excluding Dow. Also, it doesn't change our long-term growth ambition, which is to deliver sustainable top-line growth and high single-digit earnings growth on a year-on-year basis. That's unchanged. And it will be driven by the performance of our luxury portfolios, pen files, and within Treasury Americas as the growth engines of the business go in forward, supported by what are very attractive category fundamentals in our key markets. And our three very clear priorities we've outlined today, we have ahead of us. First one, execution-wise, continuing to execute Penfold's growth strategy. Tom and the team are doing a fantastic job and they just must maintain and will maintain the strong momentum we have. And clearly, as I've outlined, we're well-prepared and well-placed for the opportunity should it arise with a decision around the tariffs on Australian wine in China. Second, we've been on the team with the acquisition of Dow, we now have this opportunity to really drive our luxury leadership in the United States. And with the return to normalised availability next year, double digit increases on what we have this year, Plus, Dow supports the incremental growth for Treasury Americas from F25 as well. And finally, we have the strategic initiative, which is our focus in assessing the future operating model for our global portfolio of premium brands, which is, again, a very important decision we'll determine over the course of this calendar year. So with that, I thank you for joining us and I'll hand over to the operator for the Q&A.
Thank you. If you wish to ask a question, please press star then one on your telephone and wait for your name to be announced. If you wish to cancel your request, please press star then two. If you're on a speakerphone, please pick up the handset to ask your question. And the first question will come from Lisa Dang with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Hi, Tim. Hi, Stuart. Thank you for the summary. Just wanted to ask on Penfolds, obviously the Asia volumes are very strong with sales plus 16%, and so volumes are probably somewhere in the 20s. Can we dissect for us in what key regions these were strong in, and if any indirectly or directly were sold into China for that, please?
Yeah, hi, Lisa. Yeah, look, Tom can take that one, I reckon.
Sure can. Thank you, Tim. Thank you, Lisa. Yeah, we're very pleased with the performance across the Asia region. Clearly, it's been a year of or a first half of new product launches for us in China with CWT and the launch of the one by Penfold's range with our new creative partner, Nego. That's been a very positive outcome for us and Sell-through and depletions for both have been very strong, so China has been a positive half for us. Across the rest of Asia, we continue to see really good momentum across the board in our priority markets, so the likes of Thailand, Malaysia, Hong Kong has been a real bright spot for us, actually. Some really strong retail activations there. One of our key partners in the market there, one of the big retailers, is going really well and winning in the market, and we're actually winning within their business. And that's underpinned by really strong joint business planning, consumer insight-led activations, and strong above-the-line marketing investments as well. So, yeah, positive performance across markets. the whole of the Asia region, which makes us feel very good about the future.
And especially the follow-up.
Sorry, I'll add to your follow-up if you like, Lisa, as well. Just on Hong Kong, because I know that's a question on everyone's minds, given the Wine Australia data the other week, which must surprise me a little bit. Firstly, we haven't shipped ahead of a China reopening into a warehouse in Hong Kong. We don't have a warehouse in Hong Kong. The stock that we have in terms of our allocation across the two halves is and what we would plan to ship in this year ahead is sitting in the warehouses here in Australia. So from that point of view, that's not something people should read through with that data. Obviously the Wine Australia data is directional and we always say don't read through it, but clearly it creates the questions that we need to respond to. And without giving our depletions numbers away for Hong Kong, because we don't go through it market by market, but Tom touched on it and I'll be a bit more specific, Yeah, we're not at the 70 plus percent of what the Wine Australia data said, but we have pretty significant growth in that market from a depletions point of view, across Dairy Farm, across Park and Shop, across Watson's, across Jebsons, all our key customers in that market. And yeah, the activation has been outstanding. So where Hong Kong has been a market for us, which we've struggled for a few years, we've certainly seen that as a bright spot. I want to make sure it's clear. We have not shipped ahead into our warehouse with a view that there's a potential positive tariff outcome that we just drop it over the border at the end of March.
And can I just follow up on that? So just with the Hong Kong shipment and even strength in Australia, whilst we haven't shipped ahead, how much of the actual end consumer do you think is the Chinese traveller that's now resumed across the border?
Yeah, probably, Tom, you'd be a good one to answer this, just on GTR as well, you know, with our broader GTR business and how that's going. There's some pretty fantastic results within that channel over the last six months.
Global travel retail, that is, sorry. Talk to GTR and then I'll talk to the travel Hong Kong to mainland China. So GTR, we are going really well in GTR. You know, it was a channel that we maintained a focus on during the COVID period. We've maintained a team of people, worked with our customers to support them, and we're really well placed as travel started opening up across the board. So we're going really well in our key airport locations, particularly across Asia Pacific, but also globally. Sydney Airport continues to be a massive bright spot for us and we're doing really well. We're up there with the best of the luxury brands overall, not just in wine or alcohol, but all categories. So I'm really pleased with how the brand is coming to life, the engagement we're getting with shoppers and the support we're getting from our retail and airport partners in terms of space to activate. That's been driven by international travellers from a number of different markets. In the past, a lot of our travel retail business was heavily skewed towards Chinese travelers, but we're now seeing a much broader mix of travelers buying Penfolds in airport locations. You know, the likes of travelers from Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand, brands where we've been investing in the domestic markets in those countries, we're now seeing the benefit as those those domestic consumers travel and shop internationally. As it relates to your question about Hong Kong with borders fully open now, there's some interesting dynamics going on. What we're seeing from talking to customers on the ground is actually there's a bit of a shift the other way with some Hong Kong movement to Shenzhen and other places for weekend retail shopping. So, you know, our business in Hong Kong is really being driven by domestic retail and by us winning further space and share of the category in-store across the retail landscape.
Thanks, Lisa.
The next question will come from Michael Simotis with Jefferies. Please go ahead.
Good morning, team. I've got a clarification on the guidance and then just a question on the Americas, if I can. There's been, I guess, a slight reduction in your guidance for the full year from high single digit to mid to high single digit. I appreciate it is very modest, but just want to understand what the change in thinking is there. And also, is the guidance on a constant currency basis or a reported currency basis?
take the first bit and then Stuart can jump in on the end just to get him involved. Thank you Michael, good morning to you. Yeah I mean really it's our premium business in Asia within TPB. That's the sort of simple point around where we are with our plans across the globe. We're pretty much where we need to be other than the premium business in Asia which we've highlighted and called out today. So that's the shift that we need to get on top of and fix. The reason why, as I said, the Asia business there has softened, depletions have softened, and we need to balance our shipments to make sure we're not building inventory. We will never just ship to hit a number. We've got to ship to a depletions plan, and we've seen softness on the TPB brands in Asia. We've got to make sure we balance the inventory. from that point of view. So it's the right thing to do, otherwise bad behaviour exists with discounting and it's not good for our brands going forward. So that's the core shift, if you like, in terms of our plans. Clearly we're trying to achieve the top end of that range too, by the way, so we're not walking away from that, because that is where we set to achieve ourselves on an annual basis. But right at this point of time with the Asia business for TPB, that's what we see as appropriate, just to give you that guidance.
And a quick follow-up. The range we think, Michael, really covers us from both a constant currently and a reported basis.
Okay. All right. No, that helps. And then on the America's business, I mean, clearly the 2020 vintage was tough for availability of luxury and perhaps even perceived quality of luxury as well. Can you give us some sense of what the earnings drag was from that limited availability? And just noting that some... comments in the market from other players are now suggesting there is a little bit of softness emerging in luxury. So how should we think about that swing as availability improves?
Yes, that's the best way to put that and dimensionalise that for you. So I think if you sort of fast forward to, I'll work back from what we see as normalised inventory that we see coming through next year. So this year we've had modest increases on what was 2020. So 2021 was a good vintage compared to 2020, but that was a low base. So yeah, we've had single digit increases this year. On this year, we'll have double digit availability next year from an NSR point of view. So To give the profit guidance of that, I think you can work that through with some of the other information we have around the US P&L. So we expect that that's going to really drive a great level of growth going forward. Our pricing has stuck in the market there. So there's commentary around softness of luxury wine pricing. We're not seeing it. As we know, we took the opportunity with a reduced supply out of the vintage to increase our pricing over the last 12 to 18 months on the luxury tier, and that pricing's been maintained over the last six months and 12 months in particular. So the margin opportunity that we created out of that Yeah, we see as we go into further vintages going forward, we'll be upside for that business and just strengthen the margin profile of Treasury Americas. The only other point I'll make is our 2020 vintage, no one should ever think that we've released wines that aren't of the right quality. So you touched on there that it's a lower vintage and lower quality vintage. The reason why it was a lower vintage is because we'll never release wines that aren't of the right quality. So I just always want to make that point. Thanks, Michael. Thank you.
The next question will come from David Arrington with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
Morning, Tim. I just want to follow up. I think where Michael was going and where I'm going to go is, look, at the end of the day, we'll probably give you a pass or we'll give you a leave pass, if you like, for 24 in the US. But what we're going to measure you on, which I think you want to be measured on, is your 25 year. So consequently, what we need is we need a roadmap as to what 25 looks like, because at the end of the day, the first half, 24, is pretty miserable in the Americas. I mean, it's miserable. The business is going backwards, the core business is going backwards, and you haven't got much luxury to sell. But we'll give you a pass on that. We'll talk about what 25 looks like. Now, the one thing that concerns me is the information that you gave under your new structure that you're trying to put out. with your brands and you highlight and Ben highlighted that you're looking at double digit growth on what your new portfolio will be. Now in your luxury in the US, I noticed that your sales are 634, net sales revenue 385 with an EBIT margin of 36%. And Ben called out double digit growth of that luxury in 25. Now, if you run the math on that, That's only 25 or 30 million EBIT uplift in 25 on a miserable year in 24. Tim, that's not going to get the job done. So can you give us a little bit more detail, please, as to what we can expect in 25 with the America's business? Because I hate to say it, but earnings consensus is a lot more than what you're indicating based upon your commentary today.
Yeah, sure. Thank you, David. Good morning. I think that from a, I'll just comment on the miserable 24 and, you know, I appreciate the view looking forward to because I think that's, yeah, that's important to understand. We are seeing the luxury business, you know, growth within our base portfolio this year as well, which is a good basis to go from. As we add, if you sort of look at the building blocks of fiscal 25, we have a luxury business that, again, we have more wine to sell. And we're not being specific around the EBITS guidance, et cetera, on that. What we're saying is from a volume point of view, At this point in time, there is double-digit incremental wine to sell in fiscal 25. You then add that, we have a full year of Dow to sell as well. It gives that luxury business portfolio. So we think there's two very strong sources of growth for that. From the premium business point of view that sits within there, we expect the stabilisation of 19 Crimes and we also expect Matua, St Hubert's, The Stag and other premium brands to continue to grow as they are in the market today as well. So that's the building blocks of how we're thinking about You're driving the business going forward in fiscal 25. And we're pretty confident that when you add up those multiple sources of growth, particularly the combination of the luxury portfolio, that it will deliver a strong year and multiple strong years going ahead. Because the consistency of the growth as we build out that distribution we see as a very strong – quality of luxury wine business that has a margin structure that's attractive, but also one that we can build on over time as well. So as we build out the integration plans as well, we'll be able to give a much cleaner view of where we're going. But in principle, that's the sort of eyes-up view of how I visualise and Ben visualises Treasury America's in fiscal 25.
Following up, Tim, though, can you understand our scepticism about when you're calling out for the stabilisation of the premium, when you're down underlying 23% today in sales revenue, and you're down in EBIT terms, down by 23%. I mean, can you understand the scepticism toward the US business and that you probably need to be a little bit more transparent with what double digit means? Because at the end of the day, the US has been a black box for that's just gone backwards. We need to have a little bit more substance as to what your plans are for 25, because you've kept it very, very, not very transparent.
Yeah. Yeah. No, look, I think... We've had this conversation a few times around the Treasury of America's transparency. The first step, which we've done here and will continue to do, is the separation of the luxury and premium business. I think having that visibility and transparency of the financials of that business is step one on that journey. You should expect to see us continue that going forward as well. The other point we made with the numbers today is the second half in America Yeah, it will be better than the second half prior period quite substantially when you think about the guidance we've given around NSR growth for the year, EBITS growth in the second half versus the second half last year, and it will be a stronger financial half than it was in the first half. So we've committed to that. That's our plan in terms of building that base going forward as well. And a lot of that's driven by the fact that the second half prior period last year was a 400,000 case D stock that existed in that market with the way the distributors were managing their inventory at that point. So all of those things combined, I absolutely understand your question. I think the transparency... that we're starting to give as this half year results will continue to build on over time. And I think that will build confidence in how we're driving that business. So thank you. Okay. Thanks Tim.
The next question will come from Brian Raymond with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
Thanks guys. Just on sticking on the Americas, just on the 19 crimes, modern tier decline that you're seeing, I just want to understand sort of, The comment you made around the cycling of some of those new releases, obviously they did well last year. I just wanted to understand the duration of some of these brands as you roll them out. I would have thought they'd have a bit more than six or 12 months in them before you needed to continually innovate and develop new product within that 19 Crumbs Modern tier. Could you just help us understand sort of the drivers of it? Is it just that... you know, that you're seeing declines year on year in those particular products or that you haven't innovated. If you could just provide some more colour around that modern tier within 19 crimes, that would be helpful.
Yeah, thanks, Brian. Good morning. Ben will talk more broadly about it, but I think... In fact, just go, Ben, rather than me headline it. You'd say what you want to say.
All right, thanks, Jim. Hi, Brian. Look, we've had really good success with our innovations across the 19 Crimes portfolio over the past three years. And so as we launched what we call Cali Blanc and Cali Gold, our expectations were high, as they should be, because the brand has traction with consumers. So the innovations in our minds were absolutely successful. We executed from a distribution standpoint. We certainly connected with our consumers. But, you know, they just didn't meet some of the thresholds that we set ourselves, which were high relative to the launch of Cali Red a number of years ago. So, you know, in no way does it diminish the excitement our distributors have or retailers have. In fact, it gives us confidence that we're going to continue to innovate, often not in crimes of all the tiers. But that said, I think as we look at stabilising the brand and more normalised shipments as we think about nighting crimes in general, I think now with all of the tools we have in place across all tiers that stabilising the brand and then continuing to innovate is a big priority.
I'll just add a couple of things to that. I think Ben talked about, and Brian also asked, just around the duration of these brands as well, which I think is a really important one to comment on. But I think all the innovations we've launched under this 19 crimes portfolio, and the Kelly in particular, They've led the category when we've launched them, but none of them have met the CaliREB, which is the initial innovation plan. And plans we built with our customers, these aren't numbers we made up. We built the plans with our customers, with the distributors, with the support behind it that was planned. So if we use numbers, we planned 100,000 cases, so in a half you ship it this time last year or in the half... comparable period last year based on a depletions plan of 100,000 cases. If the depletions end up 60,000, which is still better than zero where we were in an innovation point of view, we just have to right-size the shipments so that we're not building inventory. Again, it's that balance between shipments and inventory. So with innovation, there's that unknown that we're getting better at managing. But from a brand point of view, Ben, it's probably worth talking about that because it's not an overnight and it's gone in six months.
Yeah, I think that's exactly right. And then as we think about our future pipeline of innovation, it's those learnings Tim just talked about that guide us. But again, we have a robust plan as we think about extending off the modern tier. And then also, I mentioned before, we're seeing some initial signals out of the market for the repack and the launch of our campaign for classics tier that give us some confidence as well. So Again, the brand reacts really well to innovation, and that innovation is done in conjunction with execution with our retailers and wholesalers. So we're certainly going to continue that and learn from what we've done over the past number of periods.
Okay. Okay, great. If I could follow up just with one more. Just on the new global operating model, is this sort of a precursor for a potential demerger or sale of the premium product, or are they too integrated operationally in terms of all the different moving parts around production and distribution in order to do that? I'd just be interested in the motivation behind this new operating model, if there's any sort of big... you know, changes that we could expect down the track from that?
Yeah, look, it's premature to, you know, sort of guide towards what the outcome of the work we're doing might be, Brian, but it's a fair question because, you know, we'll assess what the role of our premium business is across TWE going forward as part of this. With the acquisition of Dow... Yeah, that's unlocked a second luxury wine business strength that we have with Penfolds, we now have with Treasury Americas, that we've got to maximise and we've got to get the returns on the invested money and the investors' capital that we've actually put into those businesses. So that's priority number one. The premium business, while it's got some elements where it's performing really well, there's also some challenges within this business. And we need to look at how we drive that portfolio in the first instance better and perform better going forward. We accept it's not where we want it to be. However, it's also going to have a strategic role and a benefit to our luxury portfolios going forward as well and the total TWE global business. So, yes, there's integrated supply chains and there's benefits of scale and those things, but all options are on the table as we go through this process, right, and we need to do the diligence to come to that conclusion. So certainly shouldn't be reading through as, oh, we're definitely going to sell that business, but, you know, it could be an outcome in the future. Who knows? We've got to go through the work. Thanks. Thanks, guys.
The next question will come from Tom Carras with Baron Joey. Please go ahead.
Morning, guys. Just got a question on the receivables increase. So I think it went up 120 mil, which I think about 70 mil of that is like if you exclude Dow. Can you maybe just step through where that has come from? And I'm just reading between the lines here, but it looks like you shipped heaps of penfolds into Asia in December, which on my back of the envelope, it's like a 30 to 40 mil profit tailwind from that. Just be keen to get some thoughts on that, please.
Yeah, sure, Tom, I'll take that one. So, you know, it's linking to really the timing of the shipments that impacted the cash conversion and the cash flow, two parts of it really, one being the Asian component, one being, you know, a little bit also in the Americas. And so one of the key driver there is, is the cost of funds for our customers in Asia and the behaviour that's driving is ordering later. So it's not a demand question, it's a timing of shipments question. And so as we sort of see them manage their own inventories against that cost of funds, they're wanting us to be shipping later. So that's just a... It's always been a characteristic of the market around shipments occurring at the back end of quarters, and it's just sort of an exacerbation of that, but it's more linked to that holding cost of the inventory than it is to our underlying demand for the product. In the Americas, sort of similar, but also we saw our distributors wanting to be sort of confident with the sales profiles through the critical October, November, December period before they were finalising and receiving those orders. And so, again, a driver of later later orders and shipments occurring in that market. But it's sort of important to point out that across the half in the Americas, notwithstanding that that profile was pushed towards the back end of the half, the distributor stock levels actually slightly declined across the half.
Okay. Okay, cool. Thanks, Stuart. And the second one is just on the Dow contribution in the half. So I think you had said it would settle on the 31st of December. It ended up settling on the 13th of December. It makes about $10 million a month, I think, based on what you're saying. But you haven't included any earnings contribution in the half. I'm no accounting expert, but I would have thought that maybe you might have got five or six million bucks of earnings from Dow, but there hasn't been anything recognised. Could you just explain that one for me?
Yeah, so ultimately, as you said in the accounts, the net contribution was immaterial, so we didn't include it within the half. Part of the reason for that is really the timing around December, in that a lot of the shipments occur earlier in the month just to get it into the market. So when you look at the the timing for the back end of the month. If you're getting down to micro days and the like here, the contribution at a top line level at the back end of the month necessarily because of the way that that month works would be smaller and you've sort of got the costs occurring on a linear basis. So that's really just an intra-month thing as to why it was immaterial, Tom.
All right. Great. Thanks, Stuart. And similar to exactly how we treated Frank Family Vineyards. Ironically, the acquisition date is almost exactly the same date from a couple of years earlier. I just want to reiterate one thing Stuart said, just so it's absolutely crystal clear to everybody, is that the cash conversion result is based on shipment phasing, and shipments are all defined on depletions, plans and demand. It's a really important point. We're not happy with the phasing of it, and we're not happy with the cash conversion side of things, but with the back-ended nature of the shipments, it does raise the question, in investors' and analysts' minds, well, is it shipping to hit a number? It is not. I assure you of that. So when we look at our warehouse inventory and all our customers to finalise those shipments, they're later than we would have liked in the half. That's the reality.
Tim, do you stop shipping to them then? Is that the way to solve it? You just say you can't have the stock if you're going to behave like this, or is that what you would potentially do?
Yeah, look, in some instances you could do that. It's also the case of, you know, when you look at the customers, they're too discreet customers. I guess, issues when it comes to Asia versus Asia, which is Penfolds, and then US, which is the broader portfolio, I think. From an Asia shipment point of view, we had the orders in normal time. It's as you go through the process of clearance of funds and credit clearance, et cetera, just took longer. And that's happened for a couple of halves now. So from that point of view, it's not a case of not getting the funds. It's not a case of not getting the shipments. But we also need them to have the inventory for us to build the markets. Yeah, it's a balancing act, Tom, you know, from that point of view. The US is slightly different where, you know, a year ago, as you know, there was a D stock in the second half. That was driven by inventory reductions through distributors based on their cost of funds increasing. Whereas this time around, they were very wary and wanted to make sure that we were going to deliver our depletions plan that we'd signed up for across October, November, so that became more December 2020. more December focus. But broadly, depletions are in line with shipments. I think it was 100,000 cases below depletions. So, yeah, making sure we don't destock to that level was a pretty important part of those negotiations. So it's not a one-size-fits-all answer, but hopefully that just gives you a bit of colour around it. Yeah, that's great. Thanks. Appreciate it, Tim. Cheers. No problem.
The next question will come from Richard Barwick with CLSA. Please go ahead.
Good morning, team. Just noticed that you didn't include, I think for the first time, the vintage update. And so I've just got a question around this. I mean, there's a few snippets throughout the presentation suggesting the intake in California was pretty good. So I'd love to hear your thoughts there or some comments. And then just as importantly, what the outlook is for the pending Vintage 24 in Australia and how you're feeling about getting access to the right quantity of the high-quality fruit. Because you've previously talked about basically being active in Vintage 24 in Australia, buying on the assumption that tariffs are removed. And so do you foresee being able to get enough fruit to tap into the Chinese demand? And there's a little flow-on question from that. How are you thinking about Chinese demand, you know, potential, the theoretical post-tariff world, given all the news flow on China, just in terms of the Chinese? Wine market's actually pretty bearish. I get the exclusion of penfolds as a factor, but, yeah, how are you thinking about that?
Thank you, Richard. And Bijan owes you $100, I reckon, for that, noticing that we've taken the vintage, because him and I debated it for a couple of weeks. My view was that it doesn't actually tell investors or analysts anything, and we didn't need it, and he disagreed. So you're right. We'll include something going forward. Apologies. But to give you the colour, so look, Vintage 23 in Treasury Americas was an outstanding vintage. Simply, from both a quality, quantity, across all of our brands, was the best vintage we've had in a long, long time in the United States. We look forward to selling that through into the future as well. It ended up, you know, it was late, it was compressed, but delivered great, so we expect good volumes and then obviously good cogs going forward on the luxury portfolio in the United States when we sell that in a couple of years' time as well. So thanks for asking that. and I'll get to the sort of how we see China a bit. Australia, with a couple of weeks before we bring our luxury in, they start to bring our luxury intake in, we've worked, Karen and the team have worked very hard to source incremental, particularly luxury cabernet. Clearly, with the view going forward, if there's the potential China reopening, the heart of Penfolds has been 407 and 389 in that market, clearly the icon. we can make more of those, then we'll work to do that as well. We've got some very strong future makes that we're working towards in vintage 24. We managed to source it. The vineyards are looking in great condition. While it was cool over the last month or so, the last two weeks has given us some very strong view that it should be a good vintage going forward in those growing regions. Touch wood, Mother Nature in the next two weeks does the right thing. And if you're watching the weather from up north in Queensland, if it's 30 odd degrees down in South Australia, then we're pleased with that. So just looking positive going forward. So yeah, importance around this vintage can't be understated, I think, as well. And hence why it's one to give a bit of colour on. So thanks for asking. In terms of China, look, The reality is, as I've talked about, the single largest opportunity we have should the marketplace reopen to Australian wine, given we've got the wine we've made from the last two vintages, which weren't huge vintages, 22 and 23 in Australia, but enough to guide us to our growth that we need within the Penfolds business. The first opportunity is pricing and margin that would come as global demand and supply, which also gives us the opportunity over those couple of years to really understand, assess the market, and see how the market evolves. Yes, there's a lot of negativity around the market, but as we outlined today, our brand is still very strong in China, and 0.00% of even a declining but still large luxury wine category is opportunity for us so yeah it's uh that's that's how we view it we'll have time to understand it we'll have time to really build this business because you know we'll if we get back in and re-establish Australian wine yeah that's a that's a re-establishment for the next decade and beyond as opposed to a you know what are we going to do in the first quarter so albeit clearly we've got plans for that first quarter. So that's the way we think about it. That's the way we plan the business. We look forward to getting more wine in this vintage and be able to then properly assess what our upside can be should the tariffs change once that vintage is complete as well. I think I answered all your components of your questions.
Can I just clarify one thing, Tim? You have, but if I just maybe a little pointier in the answer, if you're taking in your vintage 24, obviously that's predominantly going to be sold through in an FY27. Where I'm getting at, should we be thinking about the contribution from China or the way that at least you're thinking about the potential contribution from China on an FY27? does that accord with what it looked like in FY19, for instance, or FY20? Because, I mean, obviously you have to make a decision now as to what level of grapes you take in. So you have to take a view on what you can sell on that time.
Yeah, no, I think the answer is I can't tell you right now, not because I don't want to tell you, but because it's going to depend on what the vintage intake is. But the way we're thinking about this vintage, we've got a fair bit of confidence that, Yeah, if we take in more luxury fruit than we have demand for, should the tariffs not change, then we're pretty good at balancing our inventory strategically and allocating that around the globe. We've proven that over the last three years in particular. So I think our gloves-off approach to bringing in volume through this vintage will... If we've got more than what we actually asked for, we'll take it. And then we'll be able to define what the future would look like. I wouldn't be expecting that one vintage would get us back to where we were. No, certainly not. We shouldn't be building that into our mindset or our models, I don't think. But the upside will be based on what we can bring in over the course of the next three months.
The next question will come from Craig Wolford with MST Marquis. Please go ahead.
Good morning, Tim and Stuart. Just I want to extend on that question around China. I think you gave a good summary on slide seven about the plans if the tariff sale removes and where Penfold is positioned. But just like you say, you look to implement global price increases on certain products. Just want to be really clear about that you would obviously maintain that price harmony across the globe, but it would be an increase on tenfolds in all markets, not just the pricing that would go into Asia, for example.
I'll hand it to Tom, but I'll just headline. We're not going to talk in detail around that. We know what we would do with pricing should this review be a positive outcome in just around the corner in a few weeks' time. But we also need to make sure we manage that and balance that communication around customers. So we will communicate at the appropriate time so there will be clarity for all analysts and investors out there. Yeah, it's top of mind for you how we manage global pricing going forward. So why don't you give some colour in terms of how you and the team are planning should that occur?
Yeah, sure. And I think the first thing just to reiterate is, you know, we do work to global pricing templates and frameworks so that the margin we make on any product, wherever it's sold around the world, is consistent. You know, in the past, we may have or people may have had the assumption that we charge or we sell at higher prices into markets like China. That's not the case. The higher margins we earn in certain markets is all due to the mix of the portfolio that's sold in those markets. So when we assess our future pricing roadmap, we're looking at it at a global level and a single price level for each product. And as we look ahead to the point where we are getting more demand versus what we have available over the next couple of years, We're making pretty informed but rational decisions around where and when we will plan to take price. We've got that mapped out already as it is, but clearly we won't be communicating anything at this point in time. But I'm confident the consistency and the strength of our global pricing framework will remain intact and we'll all move at the same point in time whenever we push those buttons.
Thank you. And can I just clarify on America's pricing commentary, the NSR per case commentary? Is it true that the luxury portfolio had a constant FX NSR per case growth? There's a mix of... The reason for the question is that Sorry, a bit of feedback. The 0.9% overall pricing growth, but then luxury NSR was stronger and also volumes were up or better in the luxury versus the premium.
I think... Can we just make sure we give you the proper answer and analyse that? Can Stuart take that? that offline and just bring that back when you guys catch up later on. It's not trying to dance around, but we want to make sure... I understand the question, but I'd be talking directionally right now. We need to give you the detail. Is that okay? Sure.
Thanks. Thanks, Jim.
The next question will come from Ben Gilbert with Jordan. Please go ahead.
Morning, guys. Just two questions. One, what are you seeing in terms of like-for-like cogs that you're taking in for pen folds? Are they coming down given the productivity gauge you've got, the facility, and obviously juice prices have been weaker for red over the last couple of years?
So, for Penfolds, I mean, the factors that we are seeing, Tim's touched on a couple of them, is the differences in the vintages. And it's more about the volume coming off the vintages impacting cogs than sort of flow through impacts associated with the facility. I think as we've said that part of the impact that we've seen was a slightly higher cost of the vintage going through Penfolds and the next one will be a little bit better off. But those variances are relatively small for Penfolds compared to some of the variances that we've talked about for Treasure Americas given the much more sort of significant weakness of the V20 vintage. So nothing that material for Penfolds.
but pretty steady we should think about if we like cogs and pentops.
Hopefully. Hopefully with a lot of volume in Vintage 24, it'll be a very good cogs as well, Ben. And some price as well. And some price as well. It's not a bad mix.
Again, just following on from the Americas, just following on from the question before, the fact you're progressing down this path in terms of the split now, Would this suggest, and to Ryan's question before, that obviously we'll see what you're doing in time around potential to merger or if it does remain quarter treasury, but would it suggest that there weren't any obvious buyers of those brands? Or would you still be open to looking to sell some of, if not all of the premium business, particularly in the Americas?
Within America's priority one, step one is separating the teams from a sales and marketing point of view by July 1. That's absolutely priority number one with a very close priority, 0.5 of delivering the luxury growth and the integration of Dow. From that perspective, that's step one. Whilst Ben and the team are driving that, we'll assess as more of a corporate strategy piece of work as to what the future model looks like as well. It's not driven by a lack of bias because we haven't actually gone to the market and said it's up for sale. Yeah, it really is. Let's get it on the table. Let's really strongly assess it. Let's make the right decision for the next five, 10 years, which is an opportunity that's now unlocked by the luxury portfolio we now have with Dow being the last piece of that puzzle that we've been working to pull together over the last couple of years. Great. Thank you.
The next question will come from Phil Kimber with E&P Capital. Please go ahead.
Oh, g'day, Tim and Stuart. I've had a question on pen folds and wondering if you can give us sort of any slightly more detail just on the phasing of the bin and icons. I mean, are we talking, I don't know, 50, 100,000 cases or was it more than that? And just trying to understand that sort of what comes back into the second half and then Again, presumably in FY25, we go back to more normal shipments. Those were my questions. Thanks.
Yeah, cool. Now, look, rather than cases, because then you get into mix and all the rest of it, as we outlined, the strategy was broadly 45-55. That's how you should think about the Penfolds business from first half to second half. And we're very confident in that plan, whether China reopens or doesn't reopen. So we've got the alternative plans to deliver on that. In terms of moving forward, we don't plan to stick with a 45-55 split. It's just a one-year deliberate, making sure we had the optionality in the second half. Yeah, that's not how we'll run the business going forward. It will be much more back to, you know, the broader 50-50, if not slightly first half in the future, I would expect, but we'll guide that when we get to the end of this year.
Great. Thank you.
The next question will come from Sean Cousins with UBS. Please go ahead.
Thanks. Morning, Tim. Maybe just a question on premium brands. Could you maybe just talk a little bit about what drove explicitly that 45% decline in premium brands' Asian revenue? I get the idea you're seeking to match shipments to depletions, but was it the product, like varietal brands, was it the selling, or was it in-market demand that ultimately meant prior shipments were unable to be matched by depletions?
Pete's spent a lot of time working and thinking about this, so he can answer.
Yeah, thanks, Sean. We have looked at it, and as you know, data out of the Asian markets can be a little bit difficult and challenging to get a really clear view on. But what we have been able to get our hands on when we look at the commercial and premium brand, or premium categories within those markets is our performance is by and large in line with the market. So we don't see it as a downturn in performance of our brands relative to the market. We see it in line with market. And then as Tim said earlier, we just, there's a correction in shipments to make sure that we're not building inventory and that our plans that we have with our, distributors where we ship to a depletion plan is maintained so that we hold the appropriate inventory levels over the duration for the depletions that we're seeing now. There's still plenty of opportunities that we see within the Asia market to continue to drive our core portfolio, be that premium and commercial, equally opportunities to innovate into that market as well. But we see our performance by and large in line with the market.
Great. And my second question is just around your effective tax rate. So if I think about your result came in line on an EBITS but beat on an NPAT basis, the way we can see it, how are you thinking about effective tax rate for full year 24, please?
I'll give that to Stuart, I reckon.
Yeah, pretty much in line with what it was in the first half based on MIGS.
And then we should think about that sort of stepping down a wee bit as well as we get more of the U.S. business in terms of Dow coming forward. Spot on. Thank you. Thanks, Sean.
The next question will come from Ross Curran with Macquarie. Please go ahead.
Hi, Tim. I just want to ask you about Dow. And you've talked about launching a NAPA project. Dow brand tiers there. Can you give us some of your thoughts around how big that could be for the group going forward?
I'll let Ben talk about this one because this really enjoys me throwing my ideas out there randomly and then he has to go and execute on it. So I'll start by, and he'll probably touch on focus, I'm sure, which is what his conversation with me was. But we are aligned that Dow... as a brand, as a luxury brand, has a wonderful opportunity to broaden outside of its Paso Robles roots, et cetera, as well, whether that be through our multi-country of origin sourcing or also through Napa. We've made a little bit of Napa wine for Dow over the last vintage in 23, but I think, Ben, you can probably best comment on your priorities around Dow because you're the one that's got to deliver it.
Yep, yep, no worries. Thanks, Ross. Look, as Tim mentioned earlier, really, look, we've got a great brand in our portfolio now and it has a really tremendous distribution here in California and an opportunity for us to expand that across the country and build on what the team has already done. So, you know, the idea around Dow Cabernet and building up that portfolio and then leaning in to the luxury opportunity out of Paso Robles with Dow Reserve and patrimony. That absolutely is the priority for us. And then, as Tim said, you know, the brand has, and George and Daniel and the team have shared this view, that the brand has the ability to reach consumers in new ways, and that will include innovation down the track, you know, be it out of Napa or Australia or elsewhere around the world. But as a priority right now, very clearly is for us to continue to deliver and build on the good work the team have been doing, because there is a very, very significant distribution opportunity.
Can we just dig into this in a little bit more detail? So Dow is known for buying volume in. You have some assets in Napa that are probably underperforming the portfolio as a whole. Is there an opportunity to take some of the existing assets in Napa, perhaps kill some of those brands and drop the DAO name onto some existing assets in Napa?
I'll take that. Firstly, the assets and brands we have out of Napa, I wouldn't say they're underperforming. with BV Stags, Frank Family. The reason the Frank Family acquisition made so much sense for us is not only it brought us a number two Chardonnay in the US, but it also enabled us to utilise the asset base we have in the US from that point of view. So let's not go down a path of the big opportunity for Dow... is out of Napa right the big opportunity for Dow yeah and we've seen a bit more in the last yeah three months of course as we've actually looked at that business and yeah the opportunity for Dow is very clear and we've outlined it however what we've learned it's probably interesting to hear what we've learned in the last couple of months you know on Dow which was one their OND period was incredibly strong And they're continuing to outperform the category significantly. And we've got a lot of runway to build distribution. You look at the numbers we talked about today around outside of California. California's not saying that's not a priority, but distribution's so strong there, it's everywhere. We just need to drive velocity. Outside of California, it's there. We need to build the international business for Dow, not from scratch, but from a very small base. And we've got plans to really drive that. The innovation within Dow, not just within their Cabernet core, is incredibly successful, whether it's the rosé, whether it's their white varietals, et cetera. The brand just delivers every time they launch something to market. So that's what we've learned. But the most exciting part is the Dow team are incredible. You know, and the people in that business right through that organisation that we've got to know, and we knew their leadership team, we knew the owners clearly as we went through the diligence process, but now we're getting to know that team. You know, the power of bringing that capability with, you know, the top end capability in our business and bringing that as a form business is fantastic. So, you know, I think they're the focus areas for Dow. That's what's going to deliver us the return on a significant amount of capital we've invested. That's what we're going to focus on and that's what we're going to deliver. Thanks, Ross. Thank you.
And the last question will come from Sam Teager with Citi. Please go ahead.
Hi, Tim. Hi, Stuart. At the full year result, you had a good slide in the penfold section where you quantified the distribution growth across your key markets. I couldn't see that in the deck today, but I was just wondering, can you talk to the outlet growth for penfolds in the first half of 24? I mean, in Asia, is it similar to the mid-teens growth? That slide implied over CY23?
Yeah, you're right. It wasn't in the deck today, Seb. Thank you. Tom, I mean, you can talk more broadly around distribution, you know, without having all the detailed numbers in there this time around. You know, I'm not going to go through that detail. But, Tom, just talk about the continued distribution growth that we've outlined before in some of these markets and just the consistency of it just briefly to round us out would be great.
Yeah, sure. I mean, the data is something that we've done for a couple of years now, but it's a once-a-year process and it's a pretty significant undertaking to get that all audited. But the data we're getting from our teams on the ground and our customers is Tells us that, you know, that momentum that we've got building distribution continues across the board and, you know, some great growth rates that we are seeing in Asia to your question, Sam. But pleasingly, we're seeing it right around the world. And, you know, the numbers today you'll have seen volume was significantly ahead of value. Big driver of that was obviously the phasing has been an icon shipments, but also indicative of the strength of the growth we're seeing in entry level tiers right around the world. And that's, you know, off the back of some great work that we've been doing with core retail partners in terms of, you know, activating in store and getting more space, more ranging, more distribution for the likes of, Max's and our entry-level bins in outlets and retailers that we've never been in before, reflecting the strength of the brand and the premiumization of the category. So we're really pleased with that. At the very top end, you know, one of the great pieces of news that we've had in the half is a deal for us to put six of our icon and luxury wines on the Place de Bordeaux for distribution across EMEA, which again opens up a whole new avenue for us to access top end on and off trade outlets across the European markets and you know, a real vote of confidence for Penfolds from what is a really quite prestigious distribution platform that isn't open to everyone. And being in Paris this week at VinExpo, meeting all the negotiants that we're working with, some real positivity, excitement, and appreciation that we're working with them. So if we needed any more confidence that there was more distribution to go after, we've got it this week, and that's in Europe. But similarly, across the board, and I touched on it in my script, we've got a lot more targeted now in terms of how we're going after and executing against this distribution roadmap and tweaking some of the roles we have in market to be really absolutely focused on the top end of the portfolio. So, you know, it's not just a numbers game. We've always said, you know, number of outlets is great, but it's the quality of that distribution. So as we've got this data-led approach and this database now of outlets that's continually updating, we're constantly looking at what we've got where, how it's performing and where further opportunities exist. So Whilst we don't have data to share today, Sam, I can tell you that there is still very much a positive momentum across the board from a distribution perspective.
Great. Thank you, Tom and Sam. I think we're at time, so I appreciate all the questions and I hope everyone got the chance to ask what they wanted to or at least others asked what was in your mind. So thank you for joining us and we look forward to catching up individually with a number of you over the next couple of weeks. So cheers. Thanks.
